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^^Parang Taft Avenue lang!!:banana:
Nice updates Boju2!! :banana::banana:

Here's another tip for those who use the Pasay Rotunda-Taft Avenue MRT Station Footbridge.

MMDA may be strict in EDSA or near the corner, but go a bit south and you'll get to cross Taft Avenue at Baclaran side on street level. Di ka pa umakyat baba and akyat uli...wala rin namang naghuhuli kasi lahat sila masyadong focused sa junction AND the road itself is a big parking lot of Cavite-bound buses.

^ (can't help but gloat, sorry :lol:) I have that too!

Wow.. I miss using the old tokens.... they're much less of a hassle than those cards....well in my opinion...:dance2::2cents:

Here's another tip for those who use the Pasay Rotunda-Taft Avenue MRT Station Footbridge.

MMDA may be strict in EDSA or near the corner, but go a bit south and you'll get to cross Taft Avenue at Baclaran side on street level. Di ka pa umakyat baba and akyat uli...wala rin namang naghuhuli kasi lahat sila masyadong focused sa junction AND the road itself is a big parking lot of Cavite-bound buses.

That's a nice tip...thanks! Well~ you really can't blame the MMDA...there just waaay to many vehicles passing through that rotunda and jeeps and buses just makes it worst

^^Panung naging less hassle ang mga tokens? Baka nga mapagkamalan mong 5peso coin yan at maibayad sa jeep.. :lol:

Ang gulo ng fare system sa LRT at MRT transit. Bakit hindi isang card system at magagamit sa buong transit except sa PNR which will be cheaper as a commuter train. Heavy subsidized naman sa national government ang mga transit train operation. :ohno:

^^ Different operators. Let's see if there will be a difference now that the government bought majority of the MRT.

Ang gulo ng fare system sa LRT at MRT transit. Bakit hindi isang card system at magagamit sa buong transit except sa PNR which will be cheaper as a commuter train. Heavy subsidized naman sa national government ang mga transit train operation. :ohno:

Hello, Flash Pass! We already have the system, though it seems that most users of it are MRT riders than LRT ones.

^^ That's the reason why the service is announced on the train's front LED display. It is also announced inside the train. People need to be cognizant of the train they're riding. At the same time, if they do board the wrong train, they can always board the regular train if they get off on time.

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Hello, Flash Pass! We already have the system, though it seems that most users of it are MRT riders than LRT ones.

We have the stored value tickets, Flash Pass but the queue on ticket booth is still long....commuters still have to endure the long wait and want to buy "tingi"...

^^ Actually, the line for purchasing a Flash Pass Coupon is much shorter than the line for SV tickets (again, they are sold at the supervisor's office). Unlike SV tickets (which are not interchangeable), the Flash Pass can be used on any line, though their use is becoming extremely rare on the LRT. I'm probably one of the few, if any, persons who boards and alights at Gil Puyat using a Flash Pass.

*wonders why previous statement was quoted but not responded to*

^^ I quoted it on Flash pass...commenting on why people still have to queue just to buy the card for regular travelers if stored value or flash pass is available.

Can't they issue reloadable magnetic tickets?

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A very beautiful extirior but stuffy air inside.:bash:

^^ Actually, I was on a first-generation LRT-1 train this morning, and it was very cold! What you have there is a 1G train without an air-conditioning unit installed, of which none currently exist.

Of course that particular train in the photo is stuffy. It doesn't have air-conditioning yet. :D

yes sirs its just because of that i remember that i was in kinder 2 when they change it to a/c rather than ventelation.When this rolling stocks are still using
forced ventelation the ride is very hot.And also when this rolling stocks still use forced ventelation i am very intimidated when they are the one who are rendering service for that day.:applause::applause::applause::applause:

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A very beautiful extirior but stuffy air inside.:bash:

^^Di lang stuffy air. May mga nagpapalitan pa ng putok sa loob ng tren! :lol:
Naalala ko nung bagong bukas palang ang LRT1 at kulay pula pa lahat ng LRV nya. Konti lang ang sumasakay dyan kasi may kumakalat na tsismis dati na pag sumakay ka daw sa LRT ay makukuryente ka. :lol: At nung time na yon ang mga jeepney operators ay nagwelga dahil mawawalan daw sila ng kita once na mag operate ang LRT. :lol: Sa tingin nyo sino nagpakalat ng tsismis? :ohno:

Lumalamig lang ang tren pag umaandar. Pero pag tigil sa mga stations, sobrang init.. na gusto mo na agad lumabas.

Hindi naman kasi feasible ang Bagong Barrio based sa economic study. Dagdag gastos lang yan.

lol.who said so?? naniwala kanaman... fyi madami commuters maggenerate dyan.. the more stations the better and convenient for the people..

it's good that they were told to stop eating...how could she eat the cup noodles inside the train? unimaginable.



thanks again....nice update

bro ung nanay nya muna una kumain then binigay sa anak.. fyi po yakisoba yan kaya wlang sabaw..i saw it.. nissin yakisoba

This isn't the entire set of my collection; this is an old scan when we did a term paper on trains years ago... I'm yet to scan the others, don't worry, they'll come soon :)



The SRTS-AFCS tickets :D

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Some notes:

I remember the "Single Journey B" for LRT1 had a typo because after the Libertad station came the Vito Cruz station (missed out on Gil Puyat!);
LRT1 AFCS cards had three types originally: Silver, Gold, Green. Silver cost P2, for anyone travelling from the third-to-last station to second- or last station. Gold and green similar to today's fare matrix (nearby and faraway stations);
Original LRT1 card designs indicated the southernmost station as "South Terminal (Baclaran)"
MRT3 Erap series indicated "Santolan San Juan" instead of "Santolan - Annapolis". Take a guess why. ;)


bro sama mo ung mga latest ng LRTA at MRT today.. ung sa MRT may paoay,banawe rice terraces at efren bata pa sila na cards dba? sama mo din ung sa LRT1 na bago

if that happens, then we'd have EDSA in a virtual stand still... much worst for the economy.
the only solution is to add trains. which the MRT management obviously (i hope not) doesn't have any plans doing in the near future. :)

where are the promised Vienna Metro trains.. ang tagal na nun ah..
i hope maka dagdag na ng tren kahit 7 sets ok na din, isabay na nila sa opening ng LRT north extension at PNR NR-SR commuter line opening

sa tabi ng LRT 2 GIlmore station may itatayo ung SM group na condo..naku po.. abala nanamn ito sa construction, bka kasi matulad sa VIctoria tower sa pedro gil

ang problema lang diyan ay baka maguluhan yung mga pasahero
kasi baka yung masakyan nila hindi pala dadaan sa station...

oo nga.. alam mo namn iilan palang tlga dito sa MEtro MAnila ang kabisado na sa LRT/MRT system.. ang iba nga di pa marunong gumamit ng ticket eh.. isusoksok na nga lang sa ticket barrier medyo na-igno pa..hehe..

^^Di lang stuffy air. May mga nagpapalitan pa ng putok sa loob ng tren! :lol:
Naalala ko nung bagong bukas palang ang LRT1 at kulay pula pa lahat ng LRV nya. Konti lang ang sumasakay dyan kasi may kumakalat na tsismis dati na pag sumakay ka daw sa LRT ay makukuryente ka. :lol: At nung time na yon ang mga jeepney operators ay nagwelga dahil mawawalan daw sila ng kita once na mag operate ang LRT. :lol: Sa tingin nyo sino nagpakalat ng tsismis? :ohno:

Lumalamig lang ang tren pag umaandar. Pero pag tigil sa mga stations, sobrang init.. na gusto mo na agad lumabas.

well those were the days.. anyway dumadami na talga ang gumgamit ng system.. and MEtro MAnila needs more.. para mabawasan na ang pollution.
OT:

haps ano favorite mong system ... 1,2,3? ako 2.. guess y? dami chix eh..haha:lol:
pag 1 halo halo.. pag 3 naman puro masa at mga trabahador..

sa dulo ng sky garden sa SM NOE befor reaching sm Annex when ur heading to monumento bound.. eh may mga rebars na malalaki na tinayo.. mukang dun na ang Grand terminal.. " GRand kaya ito"? hhehe.. giniba na ung concrete overpass dun eh. on the opposite side naman sa harap ng Skygarden , may vacant lot pa na tabi ng eurotel.. maybe in the future maging station mall din ito..

^^ Actually, the line for purchasing a Flash Pass Coupon is much shorter than the line for SV tickets (again, they are sold at the supervisor's office). Unlike SV tickets (which are not interchangeable), the Flash Pass can be used on any line, though their use is becoming extremely rare on the LRT. I'm probably one of the few, if any, persons who boards and alights at Gil Puyat using a Flash Pass.

*wonders why previous statement was quoted but not responded to*

Does the Flash Pass has daily card good for 24 hours and disposable, or weekly card 24/7 after used can be reloaded or disposed. And monthly cards 30 days 24/7 and also more cheaper than buying 4 weekly cards?

Another question, does the government has a plan to run a BUS SYSTEM using Flash Pass in conjunction with the trains which can be used in either system of transportation?

This is what we have in NYC transit which the METRO CARD can be used unlimited swipe at a 15 minutes gap per swipe on a combination of trains and buses, on the same weekly or monthly card. This was implemented to entice the people to leave their car at home and use Mass Transit.

Having a unified bus system is nothing but a dream unless someone with a very strong political will gets in charge.

With stations built for 4-cars, where do you want the passengers to disembark?

Extend all station platforms only using prefab concrete slab with 8 to 10 feet width. Its quicker and cheaper to install.

Having a unified bus system is nothing but a dream unless someone with a very strong political will gets in charge.

sa pilipinas kapag may political will ka magsisigaw kaagad ang mga left leaning, commie at social activist kuno ng human rights violation. Hindi mahirap makakita ng may political will sa atin, masmalaki ang problema natin sa maiingay na reklamador na wala namang alam na alternatibo.

lol.who said so?? naniwala kanaman... fyi madami commuters maggenerate dyan.. the more stations the better and convenient for the people..

^^If thats the case. Gayahin ang 711. A station in every corner. :lol::nuts:

sa tabi ng LRT 2 GIlmore station may itatayo ung SM group na condo..naku po.. abala nanamn ito sa construction, bka kasi matulad sa VIctoria tower sa pedro gil

^^Nasa contractor yan. Kung pabaya sila talagang mangyayari nga yon. Tignan mo sa Taft Avenue. Madami ang construction site. Pero sila lang yung may nahulog na fence.

well those were the days.. anyway dumadami na talga ang gumgamit ng system.. and MEtro MAnila needs more.. para mabawasan na ang pollution.
OT:

haps ano favorite mong system ... 1,2,3? ako 2.. guess y? dami chix eh..haha:lol:
pag 1 halo halo.. pag 3 naman puro masa at mga trabahador..

^^More Mass Transits dapat!! Mangyayari lang yan kung wala nang corrupt. Isipin mo yang mga developments na yan ay utang natin yan. Kailan kaya mauubos ang utang ng pilipinas sa ibang bansa...:ohno:

Ehem.. syempre LRT2 rin. Reason.. maluwag. Maganda yung tren. Maganda yung tanawin.. :lol: Pag wala ako magawa sumasakay ako dyan from Recto to Santolan. :nuts:

well those were the days.. anyway dumadami na talga ang gumgamit ng system.. and MEtro MAnila needs more.. para mabawasan na ang pollution.
OT:

haps ano favorite mong system ... 1,2,3? ako 2.. guess y? dami chix eh..haha:lol:
pag 1 halo halo.. pag 3 naman puro masa at mga trabahador..

ako nathan orange line :lol:

Ehem.. syempre LRT2 rin. Reason.. maluwag. Maganda yung tren. Maganda yung tanawin.. :lol: Pag wala ako magawa sumasakay ako dyan from Recto to Santolan. :nuts:

OT: sakay ka din sa orange line hanggang alabang like ng ginawa ni nathan noong kasagsagan ng demolition

OT: sakay ka din sa orange line hanggang alabang like ng ginawa ni nathan noong kasagsagan ng demolition

^^Wala nang challenge eh. Tapos na demolition. Gagawin ko yan once na mag operate ang mga bagong DMU. :D:D:D:D
Wala pala tayo sa PNR thread.. :lol:

Anu na kaya ang progress sa Monumento?

^^ dumaan ako kahapon sa Monumento... ayun, tuloy pa rin ang diggings...

pero nag-uumpisa na rin silang maghukay sa tapat ng Gotesco Grand Central... mas malalaki nga lang yung mga hinuhukay sa malapit sa end of line...

^^Kailan kaya sisimulan tayuan ng pylons dyan?

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Mas maganda ang design na ganito

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Mas maganda ang design na ganito

Hi all! Newbie here... I agree with you, the old design looks better. It's "historical" and reminds me of the good old high school life along taft avenue. :-)

^^80's ang dating!! Mas neat tignan kung naka skirt ang mga trains gaya dati.

^^80's ang dating!! Mas neat tignan kung naka skirt ang mga trains gaya dati.

Yes your right bro. & sir happs it wear side,front and rear skirt when it still uses the red,mocha and orange livery.

^^Nung time na yan 2 coaches lang ang LRV. Di pa nga nauutulize maigi ang mga stations. Na alala ko dati na di pa buong stations ang may bubong.

They dug something at the B. Serrano Street in Caloocan. Imposibleng main pylon kasi sa numbering tama ang order (it is between pylons 9 and 10) at saka tama na yung length niya, hindi masyadong mahaba at manual digging ang ginamit. Doon sa part na huling span na wala pang girder (nag-iisang span). They also have built a steel frame for a pylon there that is too far from Monumento. Dito kaya ang Bagong Barrio? Malapit sa MCU?

Anyway, General Malvar's steel fences were removed. Pero naglagay sila ng mga concrete barriers sa may island mismo malapit sa U-turn, pero sobrang haba nito, are they reserving space for a station?

LRT Project Status PDF April 20, 2009:

http://www.philippinechamber.com/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_download&gid=170&&Itemid=177

May Bagong Barrio station (mentioned as Malvar station there), which was recently approved by the NEDA board.

Also includes the LRT South Extension project.

^^Good news!:cheers:

^^Panung naging less hassle ang mga tokens? Baka nga mapagkamalan mong 5peso coin yan at maibayad sa jeep.. :lol:

well having a separate "token" purse would be good :nuts:

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I definitely miss this old look.....though those were the times I'm still a wee little child....and a "baon" ice cream melts only in a matter of a station....especially when riding at Monumento....

^^San station kaya kuha yan?

Could be Quirino because of the station curving, not sure though.

ako nathan orange line :lol:

panget ang tanawin eh.. wla ako makita dyan..ahaha , puro adik.. pero pag active na ang DMU, i hope magkaroon na..pero wla pa din tatalo sa LRT 2 lalo na sa LEGARDA station..hahaha alam nyo na wat i mean..

^^Nung time na yan 2 coaches lang ang LRV. Di pa nga nauutulize maigi ang mga stations. Na alala ko dati na di pa buong stations ang may bubong.

ah tlga? sa carriedo walang bubong diba? umm all of the station are made ba dti for 4 coaches? i agree with the old color.. hindi sya dumihin at hndi halata ung rust ng wheel and the rails.

^^San station kaya kuha yan?

Well it could be....EDSA, Gil Puyat(?), Quirino, Bambang, Tayuman, J.Abad Santos or 5th Ave..... go ahead chose one... maybe I'll go check it tomorrow... :lol:

Having a unified bus system is nothing but a dream unless someone with a very strong political will gets in charge.

Speaking of, i watched just recently "Seoul: Unlocking the grid", a special feature on Seoul's one of a kind brt system they implemented when they hosted the fiba world cup in 2002. I envy them, the system is sooo simple, efficient and hi tech. :)

mawalang galang po, nais ko lang i-share itong dalawang kuha sa cubao station at sa loob ng tren tungong marikina.


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Tignan nyo pong mabuti.May side skirt.

panget ang tanawin eh.. wla ako makita dyan..ahaha , puro adik.. pero pag active na ang DMU, i hope magkaroon na..pero wla pa din tatalo sa LRT 2 lalo na sa LEGARDA station..hahaha alam nyo na wat i mean..

"Now approaching Legarda station, Paparating na po sa Legarda station"...
Wag mo namang sabihin na puro adik sa PNR, baka bigyan ka memo ng PNR nyan. Nyahahaha... Karamihan kasi sa sumasakay sa PNR ay mga ordinaryong mamamayan lang. Pero minsan nakaka tyempo na may mga cute din na sumasakay. Lalu na yung mga estudyante na bumababa sa Sta. Mesa station. Hehehe...

ah tlga? sa carriedo walang bubong diba? umm all of the station are made ba dti for 4 coaches? i agree with the old color.. hindi sya dumihin at hndi halata ung rust ng wheel and the rails.

Most of the stations dati kalahati or mga 1/4 lang ang may bubong. Like for example sa Abad Santos. Nung bago palang nag ooperate ang LRT, 1/4 ng station nakababad sa araw. Kahit ngayon mapapansin mo. Di lahat ng stations buo ang steel railings. Kasi dati yung mga may railing lang ay yung may bubong. Kung meron man iba yung mga nasa duluhang bahagi ng stations.

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Tignan nyo pong mabuti.May side skirt.

Nice!! Isa siguro sa mga dahilan kung bakit inalis yan ay yung pag lagay ng aircon sa train. May mga blowers kasi ako nakikita sa ilalim nito. Baka kung ilagay ang mga skirts ay mag overheat ang mga aircon units. Kahit ngayon nga minsan ma aamoy ka na sunog na goma sa mga trains. :ohno:

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Tignan nyo pong mabuti.May side skirt.

^^Papuntang central station yan kuha na yan dba?

^^Papuntang central station yan kuha na yan dba?

Maybe,Kasi po nakita ko lang po yan sa isang site.I think ung nasa gilid ehh
building sa Sta Isabel College.

^^May tama ka! :lol:

Speaking of, i watched just recently "Seoul: Unlocking the grid", a special feature on Seoul's one of a kind brt system they implemented when they hosted the fiba world cup in 2002. I envy them, the system is sooo simple, efficient and hi tech. :)

Minor correction lang po, what Seoul (South Korea) hosted in 2002 (together with Japan) was the FIFA World Cup, not the FIBA World cup as this was held in the USA. :)

Minor correction lang po, what Seoul (South Korea) hosted in 2002 (together with Japan) was the FIFA World Cup, not the FIBA World cup as this was held in the USA. :)

now we know.....mani pakman pakyaw

FIBA ata yung sa basketball, FIFA naman sa football, eh ang SLETBA ano?...

... Sta. Lucia East Ten Pin Bowling Association... di niyo alam yon ano?? Now you know!

\They also have built a steel frame for a pylon there that is too far from Monumento. Dito kaya ang Bagong Barrio? Malapit sa MCU?


masyadong malapit sa Monumento yan... but, in a caloocan development map i have seen, jan sana ilalagay ang isang station kung MRT3 ang ieextend...

but in this case, since LRT ang mag-eextend, kelangan next station from Monumento should be far from that station...

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the building looks like the Graduate College Building in my alma mater, PNU... :):)

FIBA ata yung sa basketball, FIFA naman sa football, eh ang SLETBA ano?...

... Sta. Lucia East Ten Pin Bowling Association... di niyo alam yon ano?? Now you know!

Eh ang FITA ba me ibig sabihin? :nuts: OT nang masyado.

Kala ko train pinagusapan futbul pala.:lol:

^^Sumakay kasi ng tren yung mga football players kaya nandito sila sa thread ng PNR.. este.. MRT/LRT pala... :nuts:

FIBA ata yung sa basketball, FIFA naman sa football, eh ang SLETBA ano?...

... Sta. Lucia East Ten Pin Bowling Association... di niyo alam yon ano?? Now you know!

Akala ko eh mala South Luzon Expressway Transport Bus Association:nuts::nuts::nuts: sorry OT

mawalang galang po, nais ko lang i-share itong dalawang kuha sa cubao station at sa loob ng tren tungong marikina.

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good that they maintain the train - looks clean.

^^But the stations are not..:ohno:

^^But the stations are not..:ohno:


I don't mind if the stations are dirty (full of soot) because i'll only pass in it for about a couple of minutes. It's a public transport, see, public, anything with thw word public in it is dirty. At least ni isang plastic wrapper, cup, tin can or balat ng kendi wala pa akong nakitang ganun sa kahit anong station. For me that's clean enough.

:cheers:

^^

The stations should have fans or evaporative coolers (yung fan na may mist), ang init kasi minsan so pag pasok mo ng train jina-jabar ka na amoy pawis.

jina jabar?? ano yun?

^^ hehe... hindi lng amoy pawis ASBOK ang lakas ni SuperMan

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MODUS OPERANDI:
nalaman ko by my friend.. nanakawan siya ng wallet that worth 2k pesos... a picture of her GF and a credit card (aw...)
I call it SIKSIK GANG
mag ingat sa mga mandurukot....
3 sila palaging magkakasama sabi ng kaibigan ko..
tapos iikutan ka nila isa sa likod at 2 sa harapan... palagi sila sa pintuan.... then ung nasa likod ang kukuha ng wallet sa likod mo.. then pagkatapos tumigil sa next station bababa na sila ng di mo alam na NANAKAWAN KA NA!

NOW YOU KNOW?
TRY ONE NOW!!!! (??)

jina jabar?? ano yun?

ot: jabar is a term used for underarm sweat.

LRTA has recently replaced busted lights inside the trains. It's a brighter white compared to the warm white flourescents originally installed.

^^ hehe... hindi lng amoy pawis ASBOK ang lakas ni SuperMan

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MODUS OPERANDI:
nalaman ko by my friend.. nanakawan siya ng wallet that worth 2k pesos... a picture of her GF and a credit card (aw...)
I call it SIKSIK GANG
mag ingat sa mga mandurukot....
3 sila palaging magkakasama sabi ng kaibigan ko..
tapos iikutan ka nila isa sa likod at 2 sa harapan... palagi sila sa pintuan.... then ung nasa likod ang kukuha ng wallet sa likod mo.. then pagkatapos tumigil sa next station bababa na sila ng di mo alam na NANAKAWAN KA NA!

NOW YOU KNOW?
TRY ONE NOW!!!! (??)

In a crowded train, do not put your wallet in your back pocket. Always put it in your front pants pocket and if possible insert a handkerchief on top of it. Nakaharang kasi yun panyo.
Nakita ko in action in a crowded station nang dukot sa knap bag. :bash:

^^ Pwede ka kaya balikan ng mga yun kung nagiskandalo ka para malaman ng mga taong may nakawang nagaganap? Baka saksakin ka eh no... Dapat sa mga ganyan kinukuyog ng sambayanan eh parang yung mga nadadale sa balita hahaha!

Ako rin kasi dati sa Metropoint nung wala pa yung MRT-LRT walkway. Dami tao sa baba naglalakad ako nakabackpack. Naramdaman ko parang gumagaan-bumibigat yung bag ko, paglingon ko, aba! Huling-huli sa akto yung walanghiya binubuksan zipper ng bag ko! Sa gulat ko nasigawan ko T___ina mo ah!! Nabigla rin sya, pero dumiretso na lang papalayo. Sobrang hindi ko alam ang gagawin ko natulala lang ako habang papalayo sya pero gusto ko habulin. Yung mga tao sa paligid lintek, deadma lang. :ohno:

1. Bakit ba pag may mga libreng bagay ay may mga taong umaabuso dito. Gaya kanina sa Blumentritt station. May Libre newspaper. Yung nasa harapan ko kumuha ng isang dangkal na dyaryo. Aba'y tama ba naman yon? Bigla tuloy akong napabulong ng "ang kapal..."

2. Bakit may mga tao na mahilig pumuwesto sa pintuan ng tren? Ang luwag luwag naman sa loob. Kanina, may mamang kalbo na naka harang na nga sa pintuan. Ayaw pa nyang padaanin yung mga gustong pumasok sa loob ng tren. Akala nya siguro papasok ako.. isip isip ko... "t@rant@d0... di ako papasok dyan. Naghihintay ako ng skip-train. Isaksak mo pa sa baga mo yang tren." :lol:

3. Mga taong mahilig magmagaling. Kanina nag announce ang PA system na ang skip train ay nasa R. Papa station na. Sabi ng katabi ko.. "Nasa R. Papa? Eh eto parating na".. Isip isip ko.. Bat ba magaling ka pa sa PA. Pag dating ng tren puno.. pahiya sya.... :lol: Tapos biglang syang nagpalusot, sabi.. "yang skip train na yan mang gagaling pa yan ng Abad Santos station"... isip ko.. "lahat naman ng train dadaan dyan eh. Anung gusto mong mangyari.. tumalon ang tren??" :lol:

1. Bakit ba pag may mga libreng bagay ay may mga taong umaabuso dito. Gaya kanina sa Blumentritt station. May Libre newspaper. Yung nasa harapan ko kumuha ng isang dangkal na dyaryo. Aba'y tama ba naman yon? Bigla tuloy akong napabulong ng "ang kapal..."



Baka may "emergency" at walang tissue sa banyo...

Actually deadma talaga mga Pinoy pag lalake na du-dukutan, tingin ko gusto rin makakita ng suntukan yung mga yon kaya deadma lang e. Sa totoo lang kahit mag rambulan kayo don manonood lang mga tao.

Ewan ko lang sa experience ng mga babae, feeling ko pagtatangol sila ng mga tao, pero sa "experience" nga mga mandurukot na yan, alam nila siguro na deadma talaga mga tao kaya malakas pa rin loob nila.

2. Bakit may mga tao na mahilig pumuwesto sa pintuan ng tren? Ang luwag luwag naman sa loob. Kanina, may mamang kalbo na naka harang na nga sa pintuan. Ayaw pa nyang padaanin yung mga gustong pumasok sa loob ng tren. Akala nya siguro papasok ako.. isip isip ko... "t@rant@d0... di ako papasok dyan. Naghihintay ako ng skip-train. Isaksak mo pa sa baga mo yang tren." :lol:


Gusto kasing makauna makalabas ng tren kaya ganun. Marami sa ating mga kababayan ang walang pakialam sa kapwa, basta maging makasarili lang. Lalo na pag sa MRT. :nuts:

Baka may "emergency" at walang tissue sa banyo...

Inquirer Libre = Libreng tisyu in case of emergency :lol:

^^Teka.. puro barado CR sa LRT1 ah... Baka doon nya ibabalot... :lol:

2. Bakit may mga tao na mahilig pumuwesto sa pintuan ng tren? Ang luwag luwag naman sa loob. Kanina, may mamang kalbo na naka harang na nga sa pintuan. Ayaw pa nyang padaanin yung mga gustong pumasok sa loob ng tren. Akala nya siguro papasok ako.. isip isip ko... "t@rant@d0... di ako papasok dyan. Naghihintay ako ng skip-train. Isaksak mo pa sa baga mo yang tren." :lol:


Hindi lang sa tren, pati sa bus, gusto nasa estribo. Sa jeep gusto nasa malapit sa babaan.
Dapat magimbento na lang ng tren na puro pinto. :lol::lol: Bus na puro estribo:lol: at jeep na maraming bababan :lol:


3. Mga taong mahilig magmagaling. Kanina nag announce ang PA system na ang skip train ay nasa R. Papa station na. Sabi ng katabi ko.. "Nasa R. Papa? Eh eto parating na".. Isip isip ko.. Bat ba magaling ka pa sa PA. Pag dating ng tren puno.. pahiya sya.... :lol: Tapos biglang syang nagpalusot, sabi.. "yang skip train na yan mang gagaling pa yan ng Abad Santos station"... isip ko.. "lahat naman ng train dadaan dyan eh. Anung gusto mong mangyari.. tumalon ang tren??" :lol:

:lol::lol: nya! ha! ha! ha!

^^Teka.. puro barado CR sa LRT1 ah... Baka doon nya ibabalot... :lol:

binalot? take out? :lol: (sorry kung Ot na)

^^OO nga OT na tayo.. Since nasa infrastructure tayo.. dapat may thread din na comfort rooms in the philippines thread din.. :lol:

^^OO nga OT na tayo.. Since nasa infrastructure tayo.. dapat may thread din na comfort rooms in the philippines thread din.. :lol:

Papakita rin ang mga nakikita sa loob ng CR.Jokes and peace:):):lol::nuts:

kahit sa PNR mahilig ang mga tao tumambay sa may pinto ng tren.

hehehe nakakainis ano Happy Happs yun mga nagmamarunong at nagmamagaling :bash:

baka ibebenta nya yun libre sa newstand :lol:

binalot? take out? :lol: (sorry kung Ot na)

Pucha kadiri, parang di na ata ko makakakain sa binalot na hindi maisip yung thought na 'to. Btw, tae rin pala yung topic sa Phil. Railways Thread :nuts:

Oo nga eh, usapang t@e na ang nangyari sa mga riles, mapa MRT-LRT o PNR man ito :lol:

Pucha kadiri, parang di na ata ko makakakain sa binalot na hindi maisip yung thought na 'to. Btw, tae rin pala yung topic sa Phil. Railways Thread :nuts:

Oo nga eh, usapang t@e na ang nangyari sa mga riles, mapa MRT-LRT o PNR man ito :lol:

^^Dyan mo mapapatunayan na talagang interconnected talaga ang MRT, LRT at PNR.. :lol::lol:

^^Dyan mo mapapatunayan na talagang interconnected talaga ang MRT, LRT at PNR.. :lol::lol:

Ngayon ko lang nalaman na dahil lang sa tae e na interconnect ang mga miyembro ng SRTS.At 13 na po ba ung g3 of line 1 or renumbered?
Plz answer.:poke::poke::poke::guns1::guns1::guns1::guns1::guns1::gunz::gunz::gunz::hahaha::hahaha::hahaha::wave::wave:

Akalain ba natin na tae lang pala ang makapagkakaisa sa atin? :toilet:

Change topic! :lol:

super OT: Totoo yan.. Pare pareho lang naman ang amoy at itsura ng lumalabas sa pwet natin eh.. :lol: Tama na.. baka ma ban... :lol:

Eto medyo related... since under renovations ang mga stations ng LRT1. Bat di kaya nila ayusin ang mga CR sa mga stations?

super OT: Totoo yan.. Pare pareho lang naman ang amoy at itsura ng lumalabas sa pwet natin eh.. :lol: Tama na.. baka ma ban... :lol:

Eto medyo related... since under renovations ang mga stations ng LRT1. Bat di kaya nila ayusin ang mga CR sa mga stations?

Sana naman e hindi na barado,hindi naiiwan ang among T@e at IHE.

May cr pala sa LRT 1?

But studies state that after 1-2 weeks of continuous LRT-1 CR usage can lead to UTI.

May cr pala sa LRT 1?

Meron.. usually makikita mo yan katabi ng ticket booth. Yung ibang CR ng LRT1 nakalagay.. ihi lang bawal tae.. barado. :lol:

But studies state that after 1-2 weeks of continuous LRT-1 CR usage can lead to UTI.

Lagi kasi madumi eh. Panu kaya ang health risk ng mga tellers ng LRT1? Malamang sila ang usual na gumagamit nun.

Yes, there are bathrooms on LRT-1. The main reason why the LRT-1 bathrooms lead to urinary tract infections is in fact more than just cleanliness per se: it also involves the way LRT-1 stations are inherently designed. The vast majority of LRT-1 stations only have one single bathroom to serve all passengers (male, female or otherwise), with segregated bathrooms being present only on MRT-2 and some stations of LRT-1, like Doroteo Jose. The singular bathroom for all passengers unduly taxes the infrastructure, thus making it more incapable of handling the sheer number of passengers needing to use the bathroom.

1. Bakit ba pag may mga libreng bagay ay may mga taong umaabuso dito. Gaya kanina sa Blumentritt station. May Libre newspaper. Yung nasa harapan ko kumuha ng isang dangkal na dyaryo. Aba'y tama ba naman yon? Bigla tuloy akong napabulong ng "ang kapal..."

2. Bakit may mga tao na mahilig pumuwesto sa pintuan ng tren? Ang luwag luwag naman sa loob. Kanina, may mamang kalbo na naka harang na nga sa pintuan. Ayaw pa nyang padaanin yung mga gustong pumasok sa loob ng tren. Akala nya siguro papasok ako.. isip isip ko... "t@rant@d0... di ako papasok dyan. Naghihintay ako ng skip-train. Isaksak mo pa sa baga mo yang tren." :lol:

3. Mga taong mahilig magmagaling. Kanina nag announce ang PA system na ang skip train ay nasa R. Papa station na. Sabi ng katabi ko.. "Nasa R. Papa? Eh eto parating na".. Isip isip ko.. Bat ba magaling ka pa sa PA. Pag dating ng tren puno.. pahiya sya.... :lol: Tapos biglang syang nagpalusot, sabi.. "yang skip train na yan mang gagaling pa yan ng Abad Santos station"... isip ko.. "lahat naman ng train dadaan dyan eh. Anung gusto mong mangyari.. tumalon ang tren??" :lol:

no surprise there, that's what you will experience everyday riding with LRT1 passengers- class CDE passengers, mga walang breeding. Ugh :bash:

^^ Do you really think that the average A-B class Filipino will use the LRT/MRT? I don't think so. Cars (and drivers) are very powerful status symbols.

^^apparently some actually do! for a station or two....lol

super OT: Totoo yan.. Pare pareho lang naman ang amoy at itsura ng lumalabas sa pwet natin eh.. :lol: Tama na.. baka ma ban... :lol:

Eto medyo related... since under renovations ang mga stations ng LRT1. Bat di kaya nila ayusin ang mga CR sa mga stations?

Actually they already did, around three years ago. Nangyari yan around the time na yung bubong eh nirepaint nila from red to blue. (Kelan ba nirelease yung Libre? Kasi kasabay nun yung "Go for the blue!" slogan nila, para ipromote ang LRT SVs) Gumanda yung mga CR non, naka-experience pa ko ng Pedro Gil CR :lol:

Pero gaya ng sabi ng mga posters dito, sheer demand led to degradation of the facilities. :(

Actually they already did, around three years ago. Nangyari yan around the time na yung bubong eh nirepaint nila from red to blue. (Kelan ba nirelease yung Libre? Kasi kasabay nun yung "Go for the blue!" slogan nila, para ipromote ang LRT SVs) Gumanda yung mga CR non, naka-experience pa ko ng Pedro Gil CR :lol:

Pero gaya ng sabi ng mga posters dito, sheer demand led to degradation of the facilities. :(

Bakit wala ba silang kubita sa kanilang bahay? Hindi ba dadampot kamuna bago aalis sa bahay sa umaga? Baka jario or notebook paper ang ginagamit kaya mababara palagi ang inidoro. :nuts::lol:

again last night.. gabi gabi ganito sa lrt2 recto station. kung gano karumi ang nasa labas ng station specially the shanties all over bilibid, pati dito sa loob ng station sobrang unsanitary.. ang baho nito yesterday

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2013/basura1.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3806/basura2.jpg
if only natuloy lang LRT 4, there will be no more squatters in that area..

^^apparently some actually do! for a station or two....lol

yeah some do ride MRT from AYALA to shaw.. mga mall goers na mga mayayaman..minsan naman sa LRT2 cubao may nakikita din ako mukhang mayayaman.. pero minsan lang un.. until we dont improve our systems .link them and give proper convenience to the people,expect na bibihira ang sasakay na mayayaman dyan.. especially those brought up being mayaman tlga w/o knowing how to ride a jeep,how to cross a street or how to use a Map.

LRTA has recently replaced busted lights inside the trains. It's a brighter white compared to the warm white flourescents originally installed.

buti naman, anyway im just curious LRT 1 lang pla ang wlang overhead lighting sa mga platform edges unlike mRT3 and LRT2. It will be a big help kung magkakaroon,kaya lang wlang pagsasabitan... bka ung roof trusses kasi mabigat na ang load.. anyway, im sure maiimprove pa ng LRT ang kanilang mga stations.

i wish LRTA demolish all the eaves of the roofs near the station's stairs, pag umuulan dun ang bagsak ng mga rainfall eh.. and also put some mesh type sidings sa mga stairs just like in LRT2 to avoid tresspassers, just like in Buendia(GilPuyat) LRT wherein pwedeng tumalon from the bubong of the otherside to the stairs.

But studies state that after 1-2 weeks of continuous LRT-1 CR usage can lead to UTI.

ha ha ha.... :lol:

Bosing, magupdate ka na sa Northrail. My pictures taken was really sucked I need your help.... :cheers:

yeah some do ride MRT from AYALA to shaw.. mga mall goers na mga mayayaman..minsan naman sa LRT2 cubao may nakikita din ako mukhang mayayaman.. pero minsan lang un.. until we dont improve our systems .link them and give proper convenience to the people,expect na bibihira ang sasakay na mayayaman dyan.. especially those brought up being mayaman tlga w/o knowing how to ride a jeep,how to cross a street or how to use a Map.

^^Kung sa LRT/MRT bihira kang makakita ng mayayaman. Panu pa kaya sa PNR? :nuts:
Kung may sasakay man mayaman either of the lines. Sigurado naka simpleng suot lang yon at di yung takaw pansin. Sigurado marami na ngayon sumasakay na mayayaman or class A-B, dahil sa economic crisis at sa pagtaas ng presyo ng gasolina. Wag mo na lang expect na sila Ayala at ibang ka level nila ay sumakay dyan.. :ohno:

buti naman, anyway im just curious LRT 1 lang pla ang wlang overhead lighting sa mga platform edges unlike mRT3 and LRT2. It will be a big help kung magkakaroon,kaya lang wlang pagsasabitan... bka ung roof trusses kasi mabigat na ang load.. anyway, im sure maiimprove pa ng LRT ang kanilang mga stations.


^^Kung kaya nilang maglagay ng mabibigat na billboards gaya ng sa DJ station. Makakapaglagay din sila ng mga lightings dyan. :banana::banana:

I don't mind if the stations are dirty (full of soot) because i'll only pass in it for about a couple of minutes. It's a public transport, see, public, anything with thw word public in it is dirty. At least ni isang plastic wrapper, cup, tin can or balat ng kendi wala pa akong nakitang ganun sa kahit anong station. For me that's clean enough.

:cheers:

again last night.. gabi gabi ganito sa lrt2 recto station. kung gano karumi ang nasa labas ng station specially the shanties all over bilibid, pati dito sa loob ng station sobrang unsanitary.. ang baho nito yesterday

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2013/basura1.jpg


^^Kahit couple of minutes ka lang dumaan dyan maaamoy mo pa rin ang kabahuan ng basura. Di mangangamoy yan kung balat lang ng kendi or plastic wrapper, etc lang ang laman nyan. At araw araw yan nangyayari sa LRT2.:ohno:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/LRT_Updates/Image049.jpg
^^Even the LRT1 1G LRVs are clean... Sana laging ganito.. Konti pasahero.. :lol:
Mabuhay ang skip-train!! :banana::banana:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/LRT_Updates/Image049.jpg
^^Even the LRT1 1G LRVs are clean... Sana laging ganito.. Konti pasahero.. :lol:
Mabuhay ang skip-train!! :banana::banana:

Ganda po ng kuha parang nursery ulit ako!:lol::lol::lol:

^^ Do you really think that the average A-B class Filipino will use the LRT/MRT? I don't think so. Cars (and drivers) are very powerful status symbols.

The Mayor of NYC, Michael Bloomberg a billionaire ride the subway almost every morning weekdays since he was elected up to the present. The passengers like this line 4, 5, and 6 because the trains are almost spotless. :)

^^ Do you really think that the average A-B class Filipino will use the LRT/MRT? I don't think so. Cars (and drivers) are very powerful status symbols.

Ilan lang naman sila, let them rot in traffic, importante tayo mabilis ang biyahe.

Ever notice how it feels good seeing traffic along EDSA tapos kayo ang bilis ng biyahe niyo sa MRT? Parang ang sarap sabihin dun sa mga kotse "Ba-bye!" habang uma-arangkada kayo.

last year, i saw ruffa or someone who looked like her, board the mrt on quezon blvd and then get off at ortigas. but then, she might be the exception. i also wondered why at around 2pm, most of the riders were ladies, well groomed at that, and there were enough seats for everyone.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/LRT_Updates/Image049.jpg
^^Even the LRT1 1G LRVs are clean... Sana laging ganito.. Konti pasahero.. :lol:
Mabuhay ang skip-train!! :banana::banana:

I did not get the point of people complaining that MRT and LRT were always full. The logic behind of this project is to cater the mass public beside it is call mass transit or public transport.

If this is always the case what is shown in this picture, then this project will be bankrupt.

Running an electric train is not that cheap. If everyone is looking forward for their own convenient, construct your own LRT/MRT hehehehehe.

We don't complain that its always full, heck it ain't always full. Its overcrowded, not full. How would it feel for you to have every part of your body pressed against someone else's? Full and overcrowded are worlds apart.

You said it must cater to the needs of the masses then it should cater to their needs of not having to live out everyday the experience of the soldiers crammed into trains in the Death March.

That rant comes mostly from experiences riding the MRT, I'm not sure if LRT1 and LRT2 riders experience the same.


I did not get the point of people complaining that MRT and LRT were always full. The logic behind of this project is to cater the mass public beside it is call mass transit or public transport.

If this is always the case what is shown in this picture, then this project will be bankrupt.

Running an electric train is not that cheap. If everyone is looking forward for their own convenient, construct your own LRT/MRT hehehehehe.

^^LRT 1 is not as inhumane as the MRT 3 based from my daily experience riding from LRT 1 EDSA station to Central Station at 8am and 6pm.

I have never experienced overcrowding in LRT 2 either.

Is it possible to have trains for MRT3 and LRT 1 like that one in LRT 2? If not, why is it not possible?

Naranasan ko ng makasakay ng overcrowd sa LRT-2 it was very very difficult. wala kang mahawakan kasi nga puno na talaga yung train. pero rare lang nangyayari ito, nung college ko pa kasi ito naranasan saka mga 2 or 3 beses lang. matagal kasi dumating yung mga trains kaya naipon mga tao.

^^LRT 1 is not as inhumane as the MRT 3 based from my daily experience riding from LRT 1 EDSA station to Central Station at 8am and 6pm.

I have never experienced overcrowding in LRT 2 either.

Is it possible to have trains for MRT3 and LRT 1 like that one in LRT 2? If not, why is it not possible?

no,because the whole width of from platform to the other platform is short.. the LRt2 platform to platform is much wider,hence the bigger train can be fit. tska the rails along LRT2 is much heavier than the old 2 lines

To be able to achieve a decent MRT3 system w/ incoming trains every 2 minutes, mRT needs to add more of its current fleet and also add their current fare table.. Sana ipattern nlng nla sa LRT1 wherein u have only 3 choices.. php12 for the first 3 stations, 15php both ends and succeeding stations, and last SV card. kelangan na magtaas ang MRT 3 ng pamasahe para naman mabawasan ang pagssubsidize ng government at pambili ng new or second hand LRVs. Remember, ang MRT3 stations ay designed for a 4 car train set.. 3 car train set lang kasi ang gingamit ngayon dahil kulang sa mga trains.

Sa LRT1 kapag rush hour, di ka man makasakay sa 1st train, u are guaranteed na makakasakay ka sa susunod or sa pang 3rd.. unlike in MRT3 kapag di ka marunong manulak kahit ilan tren dumaan sayo kapag rush hour, iisipin mo sana nag ride ka nalang ng bus.

Naranasan ko ng makasakay ng overcrowd sa LRT-2 it was very very difficult. wala kang mahawakan kasi nga puno na talaga yung train. pero rare lang nangyayari ito, nung college ko pa kasi ito naranasan saka mga 2 or 3 beses lang. matagal kasi dumating yung mga trains kaya naipon mga tao.

well atleast sulit naman kasi puro alam mo na chicas.. hehe.. eh sa MRT 3.. puro pawis, putok,swine flu,ubo, etc.. LRT 1 naman 50/50

i pass by along Taft - Edsa Footbridge this morning..
may new scheme na pala ang MRT sa footbridge pag dating sa flow ng mga tao..
If u will ride the MRT when you are coming from the other side of taft u need to cross the footbridge then turn right, go down and then walk straight ahead to MRT3 then up again to the stairs.

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4935/fdrrtj001.jpg

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8200/fdrrtj002.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9466/fdrrtj003.jpg

galing ng concept ng gmawa nito
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8126/fdrrtj004.jpg

The footbridge rerouting was mentioned a few pages back.

As for MRT train formations, is it impossible to configure them into 4-cars? Same question also applies to LRT 1G cars.

The footbridge rerouting was mentioned a few pages back.

As for MRT train formations, is it impossible to configure them into 4-cars? Same question also applies to LRT 1G cars.

kaya un.. may space pa naman sa station eh, kaya lang nila ginwang 3 cars kasi diba para mas madaming train sets. kung ginawang apat na car eh di mas matagal ang train frequency

Ilan lang naman sila, let them rot in traffic, importante tayo mabilis ang biyahe.

Ever notice how it feels good seeing traffic along EDSA tapos kayo ang bilis ng biyahe niyo sa MRT? Parang ang sarap sabihin dun sa mga kotse "Ba-bye!" habang uma-arangkada kayo.

^^Tell that to their drivers... :lol:

last year, i saw ruffa or someone who looked like her, board the mrt on quezon blvd and then get off at ortigas. but then, she might be the exception. i also wondered why at around 2pm, most of the riders were ladies, well groomed at that, and there were enough seats for everyone.

Baka naman may shooting na ginagawa?

kaya un.. may space pa naman sa station eh, kaya lang nila ginwang 3 cars kasi diba para mas madaming train sets. kung ginawang apat na car eh di mas matagal ang train frequency

^^Last time na sumakay ako ng MRT ay 4-cars ang nasakyan ko. Nagtataka ako noon kung bakit mas mahaba yung LRV, yun pala apat na coaches ang gamit. Di kaya tine test na nila ang 4 car config?

http://dotcmrt3.gov.ph/files/images/train%20no%20board.thumbnail.jpg

Train Specification

Max. no. of cars/ trainset - 4

Lenght of car - 30.3 m

Width of car - 2.5 m

Car useful floor area - 56.94 sq.m

Car occupancy:

No. of trains - 74

No. of standees - 320

Total no. of pax. - 394

source: DOTCMrt3 website (http://dotcmrt3.gov.ph/train_specification)

well atleast sulit naman kasi puro alam mo na chicas.. hehe.. eh sa MRT 3.. puro pawis, putok,swine flu,ubo, etc.. LRT 1 naman 50/50

Tumpak, pawis ang aabutin mo sa MRT 3, kelangan talaga may mga industrial fans sa station kasi mainit dito sa Pinas.

http://dotcmrt3.gov.ph/files/images/train%20no%20board.thumbnail.jpg

Train Specification

Max. no. of cars/ trainset - 4

Lenght of car - 30.3 m

Width of car - 2.5 m

Car useful floor area - 56.94 sq.m

Car occupancy:

No. of trains - 74

No. of standees - 320

Total no. of pax. - 394

source: DOTCMrt3 website (http://dotcmrt3.gov.ph/train_specification)

ey guys, jog my memory, bakit nga ba di na makabili ng ganitong model ang MRT 3? obsolete na ba yung model na 'to?

I don't get it...

i pass by along Taft - Edsa Footbridge this morning..
may new scheme na pala ang MRT sa footbridge pag dating sa flow ng mga tao..
If u will ride the MRT when you are coming from the other side of taft u need to cross the footbridge then turn right, go down and then walk straight ahead to MRT3 then up again to the stairs.

galing ng concept ng gmawa nito
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8126/fdrrtj004.jpg

^^What the..?! :nuts:

yo people, tanong lang
ilan estimated travel time from recto station-katipunan station? :)

^^30mins siguro...

Tumpak, pawis ang aabutin mo sa MRT 3, kelangan talaga may mga industrial fans sa station kasi mainit dito sa Pinas.

^^Lalu na sa Ayala station. Pag baba mo papuntang platform, sobrang init. Pinaka mainit na part yung sa ground level. Lahat yata ng usok ng bus pumasok na doon. Tsaka kulang talaga sa ventilation.

well atleast sulit naman kasi puro alam mo na chicas.. hehe.. eh sa MRT 3.. puro pawis, putok,swine flu,ubo, etc.. LRT 1 naman 50/50

^^Kaya pala laging sa pintuan ng tren ka tumatambay ah.. :lol:

I don't get it...


If you're walking along the MMDA footbridge, you can no longer walk straight to Taft Station. Instead you have to go down, and go up again using the station stairs.

^^hmm..makes even less sense,but if it improves pedestrian traffic then good.

bakit naman ganun d ba dati pwede yun diretso ka na sa mrt station?

Here's a recent phenomenon on the LRT that I was able to bear witness to: three-car third generation trains. The result of running a three-car 3G train: crowding that is comparable to MRT-3.

Here's a recent phenomenon on the LRT that I was able to bear witness to: three-car third generation trains. The result of running a three-car 3G train: crowding that is comparable to MRT-3.

matagal na yan.. early this year pa yan. chaka ung 25 na 2-cars lang. super badtrip

Here's a recent phenomenon on the LRT that I was able to bear witness to: three-car third generation trains. The result of running a three-car 3G train: crowding that is comparable to MRT-3.

That is just an idiot thing.making 4 articulate sections to 3 articuleted sections.mrt should have 5 articulated sectoin.Because of demand.

I did not get the point of people complaining that MRT and LRT were always full. The logic behind of this project is to cater the mass public beside it is call mass transit or public transport.

If this is always the case what is shown in this picture, then this project will be bankrupt.

Running an electric train is not that cheap. If everyone is looking forward for their own convenient, construct your own LRT/MRT hehehehehe.

There's full, and then there's REALLY FULL where you won't even be able to scratch your balls without your hands touching someone's butt or something. Mass public transport doesn't necessarily mean ridiculously uncomfortable mass transport.

yo people, tanong lang
ilan estimated travel time from recto station-katipunan station? :)

just always give a 2 minute per station.. mga 18-22minutes..andun na

^^hmm..makes even less sense,but if it improves pedestrian traffic then good.

yeah it improves nga the flow, pero nakakapagod naman,anyway, ayos na rin un, pari di magulo.

That is just an idiot thing.making 4 articulate sections to 3 articuleted sections.mrt should have 5 articulated sectoin.Because of demand.

4 cars lang ang capacity ng mRT station bro.

I did not get the point of people complaining that MRT and LRT were always full. The logic behind of this project is to cater the mass public beside it is call mass transit or public transport.

If this is always the case what is shown in this picture, then this project will be bankrupt.

Running an electric train is not that cheap. If everyone is looking forward for their own convenient, construct your own LRT/MRT hehehehehe.

un na nga, to have a convenient mass transpo tlga sa MRT, kelangan na nila dagdagan ng madami pang trains at pabilisin ang time ng train frequency and convert all 3 car to 4 car train combination.. sa LRT1 naman kahit rush hour nakakasaky ako kasi mabilis ang train frequency, u can also choose what train u want to ride ; 1g 2g or 3g


btw, when u r on MRT station, when u exceed and overstay at a station for 1hour and 15 minutes,theres an overtime charge when u are on a single journey ticket

4 cars lang ang capacity ng mRT station bro.

That's the problem!I think kaya naman nilang pahabain ang train station ng di nag sasara for renovetion right???????????????:|:|:|

That's the problem!I think kaya naman nilang pahabain ang train station ng di nag sasara for renovetion right???????????????:|:|:|

yeah.. ganun na nga, but the space in the concourse eh designed lang for 4 train people.. kung ggaawing 6 car yan hanggang baba na ang pila tpos ung mga barriers ang konti dahil masikip din ung area.. ung sa ayala station nga ang kkitid ng mga escalators diba?

Who did the project study about the train stations in relations to the numbers of the riding public. :ohno: How did he do the math? MM is about 15 millions in population while NY is about 9 Millions. The NY station platforms are at least 660 feet/201 meters long for 8 cars train. Each car can carry 80 seats and about 170 standees, Approximate total of 1200 passengers/train at 3 minutes gap or head ways.

Have they been to different facilities of NYC transit? I think it will not be that difficult to have a guided tour by sending a letter of introduction to the MTA head office at Madison Avenue. The Philippines consulate is about 4 blocks from each other. It takes 2 days to see major transit facilities or 4 days to see also the commuter lines like LIRR Long Island Railroad and Metro North which goes to New Haven, Connecticut. These are also under the MTA Metropolitan Transit Authority.

I understand the mass transit in MM is still in infancy. But still provision be made for extending the station platforms.

The MRT planners are idiots.

i hope they would provide for greater passenger capacity for the new lines to be built, like MRT7...

sa LRT1 nga lang minsan nakakaasar na yung overcrowding eh...

lalo pa sa MRT3... pipila ka ng matagal para masiksik ka lang sa loob ng tren... :bash::bash:

Who did the project study about the train stations in relations to the numbers of the riding public. :ohno: How did he do the math? MM is about 15 millions in population while NY is about 9 Millions. The NY station platforms are at least 660 feet/201 meters long for 8 cars train. Each car can carry 80 seats and about 170 standees, Approximate total of 1200 passengers/train at 3 minutes gap or head ways.

Have they been to different facilities of NYC transit? I think it will not be that difficult to have a guided tour by sending a letter of introduction to the MTA head office at Madison Avenue. The Philippines consulate is about 4 blocks from each other. It takes 2 days to see major transit facilities or 4 days to see also the commuter lines like LIRR Long Island Railroad and Metro North which goes to New Haven, Connecticut. These are also under the MTA Metropolitan Transit Authority.

I understand the mass transit in MM is still in infancy. But still provision be made for extending the station platforms.

When the MRT was being proposed there were some groups who were opposed to this because EDSA is a historic corridor. However, because of the traffic there was no stopping the development of the MRT.

I distinctly remember that Fil-Estate was saying that the MRT can have a capacity of 600,000 passengers a day, and that the stations would not be eyesores, they even said that I.M. Pei was one of the architects.

During its early days not a lot of people were riding the MRT and they said that the MRT needs at least 400,000 passengers daily.

Now they have 400T pax daily, and where are the additional trains?

I think this is the major issue right now, the MRT needs more trains and they actually projected it. But where the f*ck are the trains and why are they having so many problems purchasing even 2nd hand trains?

Fil-Estate and Sobrepena suck. Now they're out of the MRTC and the DOTC has to solve the crap they left behind.

Anyway, enough of the rant. I'm sure the stations can be renovated however the major issue is still about the additional trains.

The MRT planners are idiots.


So True

When the MRT was being proposed there were some groups who were opposed to this because EDSA is a historic corridor. However, because of the traffic there was no stopping the development of the MRT.

I distinctly remember that Fil-Estate was saying that the MRT can have a capacity of 600,000 passengers a day, and that the stations would not be eyesores, they even said that I.M. Pei was one of the architects.

During its early days not a lot of people were riding the MRT and they said that the MRT needs at least 400,000 passengers daily.

Now they have 400T pax daily, and where are the additional trains?

I think this is the major issue right now, the MRT needs more trains and they actually projected it. But where the f*ck are the trains and why are they having so many problems purchasing even 2nd hand trains?

Fil-Estate and Sobrepena suck. Now they're out of the MRTC and the DOTC has to solve the crap they left behind.

Anyway, enough of the rant. I'm sure the stations can be renovated however the major issue is still about the additional trains.


Yup. Doesn't matter anymore that this line over EDSA isn't a metro. Increasing the LRV fleet and decreasing headtime will be a really really big help.

^^ The only way MRT-3 can be converted to full metro use is through extensive renovation of the stations, expansion of its right of way and the widening of the gaps in order to accommodate full metro trains. If this cannot be done for the entire stretch, then it has to be placed underground, whether we like it or not. The same can be done for LRT-1.

^^ thats right...
alam nyo hindi sa pagmamalait sa mga ginawa ng ating "makapal na pangulo"
ang papanget ng mga stations.... parang box....
i think your concept is right and most of all it make metro manila beautiful...
pero ung sinasabi mong underground... naku hindi mangyayari yan....
tingnan niyo nangyari sa C-5 itinigil....
tsk tsk tsk

kung kailan maganda ang mga proyekto ng pamahalaan saka ititigil.. pero pag c FG o kaya ang mga anak may birthday o celebration... wlang aangal.... tuloy ang party

pwe!!

^^ thats right...
alam nyo hindi sa pagmamalait sa mga ginawa ng ating "makapal na pangulo"
ang papanget ng mga stations.... parang box....
i think your concept is right and most of all it make metro manila beautiful...
pero ung sinasabi mong underground... naku hindi mangyayari yan....
tingnan niyo nangyari sa C-5 itinigil....
tsk tsk tsk

kung kailan maganda ang mga proyekto ng pamahalaan saka ititigil.. pero pag c FG o kaya ang mga anak may birthday o celebration... wlang aangal.... tuloy ang party

pwe!!

MRT is designed during the term of Ramos. Ung LRT naman is during Marcos..fyi

^^ Uhh...MRT-2 was designed during the term of Estrada. :D

^^ Anong MRT-2? I thought it was MRT-3?

^^ thats right...
alam nyo hindi sa pagmamalait sa mga ginawa ng ating "makapal na pangulo"
ang papanget ng mga stations.... parang box....
i think your concept is right and most of all it make metro manila beautiful...
pero ung sinasabi mong underground... naku hindi mangyayari yan....
tingnan niyo nangyari sa C-5 itinigil....
tsk tsk tsk

kung kailan maganda ang mga proyekto ng pamahalaan saka ititigil.. pero pag c FG o kaya ang mga anak may birthday o celebration... wlang aangal.... tuloy ang party

pwe!!

Do you have any idea who designed which? What does the president has to do with the design of a Light Rail System's Station? That is not the job of the President. Plus the fact that MRT 3 and LRT 2 was under BOT which means private corporation undertook the project planning, designing and building. C5 extension project was put on hold because SC released a TRO since someone was complaining.

^^ MRT-2 was designed uding ODA, not BOT. If it was funded through BOT, then it wouldn't be part of the LRTA.

^^ MRT-2 was designed uding ODA, not BOT. If it was funded through BOT, then it wouldn't be part of the LRTA.

MRT2 or LRT2? Even if it was designed using ODA then what does the President relationship with the Station Design. That is what puzzles me.

^^

Official: MRT-2
Colloquial: LRT-2

^^

Official: MRT-2
Colloquial: LRT-2

Got that chief :):)

Lets just go to the colloquial since we may be confused it with MRT-3. Most of us here know MRT as referring to the blue line (EDSA MRT Metrostar Express)

My dos sentimos worth. :2cents:

I distinctly remember that Fil-Estate was saying that the MRT can have a capacity of 600,000 passengers a day, and that the stations would not be eyesores, they even said that I.M. Pei was one of the architects.Would be designed by IM Pei?!!?! :rofl: I almost fell off my chair after reading that. HAhaha...

But the problem, I believe, is not only the lack of trains but the design of the stations esp in Ayala, Buendia, Taft and North Ave. Even if you have a 4-car train with 2 min intervals, the stations will still not able to accommodate all the passengers. At the moment, it is already bursting on the seams, what more if it reaches 500k?!

The same is also true for LRT 1 stations.

So TrueAmen! Idiots indeed.

^^ thats right...
alam nyo hindi sa pagmamalait sa mga ginawa ng ating "makapal na pangulo"
ang papanget ng mga stations.... parang box....
i think your concept is right and most of all it make metro manila beautiful...
pero ung sinasabi mong underground... naku hindi mangyayari yan....
tingnan niyo nangyari sa C-5 itinigil....
tsk tsk tsk
kung kailan maganda ang mga proyekto ng pamahalaan saka ititigil.. pero pag c FG o kaya ang mga anak may birthday o celebration... wlang aangal.... tuloy ang partypwe!!:rofl::rofl::rofl:

This is the most ridiculous comment I've ever seen. So many erroneous statements.

MRT2 or LRT2? Even if it was designed using ODA then what does the President relationship with the Station Design. That is what puzzles me.Same here. What a mentality! http://statics.plurk.com/e8ed6c7eed76d2acd9dbf469f29fbec2.gif

Lets just go to the colloquial since we may be confused it with MRT-3. Most of us here know MRT as referring to the blue line (EDSA MRT Metrostar Express)Dunno, but people should at least have the common sense to know. After all, they're in the net, everything is just a click away. But oh well, I understand that most people doesn't have that.

Just want to share.

http://myalper.multiply.com/journal/item/26/Something_to_share.

Meron ba dito na mahilig magbasa ng Berso sa Metro sa Line 1?

Question: What is ODA?

I find the designs of the Purple Line good; yun nga lang, hindi masyadong well maintained (i.e. Recto). Yung iba patay ang LEDs (i.e. J. Ruiz and Anonas), yung iba... basta!

I hope they can still renovate the SRTS stations.
(Slight OT:) Ewan ko ba kung bakit napapangitan ang tatay ko sa design ng PNR stations, eh halos parehas lang ng design concepts (of simplicity) kumpara sa Japan.

Question: What is ODA?

ODA = utang:bash:

^^OK na sana ang stations ng PNR. Simple lang. Dapat lang laparan nila ang mga bubong. Panu pag bagyo? Eh di lahat ng pasahero basa.

Wala pala ako sa PNR thread.. :lol:

^^ Baka masyadong mataas ang expectation niya sa revamp ng PNR. :2cents:

So kung ang LRT1 ay kay Marcos, ang MRT3 kay Ramos, at ang LRT2 kay Erap, so kay PGMA ang MRT7? :| :lol:

^Kay GMA ay LRT1 north extension, PNR Rehabilitation, Skyway Phase 2. :banana:

Waw! Ahahaha!!! Kanya din ba ang MRT7? :| :D

^^Diba next year pa sisimulan yon? Baka sa next president na yon. :D

^^ Pera ng bayan lahat yan... :lol: Ang mga bukol at tongpats ang para sa mga pangulo.

^^ thats right...
alam nyo hindi sa pagmamalait sa mga ginawa ng ating "makapal na pangulo"
ang papanget ng mga stations.... parang box....
i think your concept is right and most of all it make metro manila beautiful...
pero ung sinasabi mong underground... naku hindi mangyayari yan....
tingnan niyo nangyari sa C-5 itinigil....
tsk tsk tsk

kung kailan maganda ang mga proyekto ng pamahalaan saka ititigil.. pero pag c FG o kaya ang mga anak may birthday o celebration... wlang aangal.... tuloy ang party

pwe!!

I fail to see the connection between the current president and the past projects done way before her time. This is why we don't progress. More babbling less knowing. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Would be designed by IM Pei?!!?! :rofl: I almost fell off my chair after reading that. HAhaha...

But the problem, I believe, is not only the lack of trains but the design of the stations esp in Ayala, Buendia, Taft and North Ave. Even if you have a 4-car train with 2 min intervals, the stations will still not able to accommodate all the passengers. At the moment, it is already bursting on the seams, what more if it reaches 500k?!

The same is also true for LRT 1 stations.

Amen! Idiots indeed.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

This is the most ridiculous comment I've ever seen. So many erroneous statements.

Same here. What a mentality! http://statics.plurk.com/e8ed6c7eed76d2acd9dbf469f29fbec2.gif

Dunno, but people should at least have the common sense to know. After all, they're in the net, everything is just a click away. But oh well, I understand that most people doesn't have that.

The MRT was started during Ramos' time, and then it was finished during Estrada's term.

Yep, where is the IM Pei in those stations... supposedly it was Ortigas and Crossing, if only I can find those old press releases... those damn liars...

^^ The only way MRT-3 can be converted to full metro use is through extensive renovation of the stations, expansion of its right of way and the widening of the gaps in order to accommodate full metro trains. If this cannot be done for the entire stretch, then it has to be placed underground, whether we like it or not. The same can be done for LRT-1.

IMO, that will happen when the big earthquake hits Metro Manila, because who knows, maybe the elevated tracks will collapse. And it would entail a lot of reconstruction.

When the MRT was being proposed there were some groups who were opposed to this because EDSA is a historic corridor. However, because of the traffic there was no stopping the development of the MRT.

I distinctly remember that Fil-Estate was saying that the MRT can have a capacity of 600,000 passengers a day, and that the stations would not be eyesores, they even said that I.M. Pei was one of the architects.

During its early days not a lot of people were riding the MRT and they said that the MRT needs at least 400,000 passengers daily.

Now they have 400T pax daily, and where are the additional trains?

I think this is the major issue right now, the MRT needs more trains and they actually projected it. But where the f*ck are the trains and why are they having so many problems purchasing even 2nd hand trains?

Fil-Estate and Sobrepena suck. Now they're out of the MRTC and the DOTC has to solve the crap they left behind.

Anyway, enough of the rant. I'm sure the stations can be renovated however the major issue is still about the additional trains.

WTF?!! I.M. Pei?? Fil-Estate must be joking right? OT, we had a bad experience with Fil-Estate to the point that my family even sued them. The case was not resolved "kaagad" by the Davide-led Supreme Court that made Malacanang intervene in favor of us.

Question: What is ODA?

ODA = utang:bash:

Official Development Assistance?

Unfortunately, yes, I do read the Berso inside the trains (yun yung mga poem diba na nakapaskil dun sa may taas?), and for that, I am now more cultured and now prefer tea over coffee... :nuts:

IMO, that will happen when the big earthquake hits Metro Manila, because who knows, maybe the elevated tracks will collapse. And it would entail a lot of reconstruction.



WTF?!! I.M. Pei?? Fil-Estate must be joking right? OT, we had a bad experience with Fil-Estate to the point that my family even sued them. The case was not resolved "kaagad" by the Davide-led Supreme Court that made Malacanang intervene in favor of us.

Yep, IM Pei daw, I sh*t you not, I remember it distinctly because that was the time they were trying to sales talk the construction of the MRT to the public.

I think I even have some old brochures of Fil-Estate's project in Boni station, kung san yung project ngayon ng Robinson's. I wonder what happened to that? Hindi natuloy dahil sa Asian Crisis?

Anyway, I don't know what's up with those Fil-Estate guys pero malaki kinita nila jan sa MRT they made sure di sila luge.

The MRT planners are idiots.

Exactomundo.

I distinctly remember that Fil-Estate was saying that the MRT can have a capacity of 600,000 passengers a day, and that the stations would not be eyesores, they even said that I.M. Pei was one of the architects.

Talagang sinabi ng Fil-Estate to? Wow...I hope you can see your old brochures so we can see a rendering of what the stations might had looked like if indeed it was designed by Pei.

Ang adik na Fil Estate eh :lol:

Official Development Assistance?

Unfortunately, yes, I do read the Berso inside the trains (yun yung mga poem diba na nakapaskil dun sa may taas?), and for that, I am now more cultured and now prefer tea over coffee... :nuts:

Yes, ODA stands for official development assistance.

Speaking of poems, some MRT-2 trains now have the Tulaan sa Tren placards over the Berso sa Metro ones. While the latter uses Spanish poems by Filipino, Spanish and Latin American authors, the former uses poems in English and Filipino by a wider selection of authors. There was one by Teo Antonio.

Dunno, but people should at least have the common sense to know. After all, they're in the net, everything is just a click away. But oh well, I understand that most people doesn't have that.

Yeah I know but this is just to avoid the confusion, Le Reine. Just my dos sentimos. :2cents: ;)

Because we cannot assume that all people has the same knowledge as we do or same line of thinking. I for example was confused earlier. There might be some underlying history behind naming it or what, right? :)

So that's only a suggestion...and most of the people don't know that MRT-2 is LRT-2 Purple Line of today because people generally know that MRT is the one at EDSA and not Aurora. :)

Manila Times

Monday, July 06, 2009

Palace bucks ODA use for rail transit projects

By Darwin G. Amojelar Senior Reporter

MALACAÑANG has blocked the use of cheaper official development assistance (ODA) loans for two railway projects, a National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) official said.

Ruben Reinoso, NEDA assistant director general for infrastructure, said the Palace ordered that the construction of the Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1 South Extension Project and the Metro Rail Transit Line 2 (MRT 2) be funded through public-private partnership (PPP) initiatives instead of ODA.

While they require lower interest costs and longer payment terms, ODA use would entail that the government put up counterpart financing for an infrastructure project.

“This was because of the government’s fiscal problems,” Reinoso said, adding that the NEDA will ask state-run Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) to submit another proposal.

In the first five months of the year, the country’s budget deficit ballooned by 556 percent as expenditures to prop up the economy outpaced tax collections.

Economic managers earlier raised the budget deficit ceiling to P250 billion, or 3.2 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), from the earlier P199 billion, or 2.5 percent of GDP.

An indicator of economic performance, GDP measures the value of final goods and services produced in a country, while the deficit-to-GDP ratio is a key measure of how long a government can sustain revenue shortfalls.

To cap the deficit, the Arroyo administration is eyeing to raise funds through the issuance of so-called Samurai bonds and/or ROPs or Republic of the Philippines sovereign bonds. Samurai bonds are yen-denominated debt papers sold in the Japanese market by non-Japanese entities, while ROPs are dollar-denominated IOUs raised in the international debt market.

Earlier, NEDA Director General and Socioeconomic Planning Secretary Ralph Recto asked Transport Secretary Leandro Mendoza to submit documentation for a Chinese loan to fund the LRT Line 1 South Extension Project.

The Philippines earlier was eyeing a $400-million to $500-million grant from the US Millennium Challenge Corp. (MCC) to partly finance the project.

The LRTA had said the planned extension to Cavite of LRT Line 1 would now cost $1.78 billion, up from the previous $683 million.

The project aims to extend the existing 15-kilometer LRT 1 by an additional 11.7 kilometers, of which about 10.5 kilometers will be elevated and 1.2 kilometers will be at-grade.

The extension will start from the existing line’s last station at Baclaran and will traverse the cities of Parañaque and Las Piñas in Metro Manila before reaching the municipality of Bacoor, Cavite.

The project will include eight new passenger stations, with provision for two additional stations. It is expected to serve 800,000 passengers a day and cut travel time from Bacoor to Monumento, Caloocan City, to less than an hour.

The government, meanwhile, had proposed that the MRT 2 be financed by the Japanese government.

The project involves the construction of a 4-kilometer extension of MRT 2 from the Santolan station in Marikina City to Masinag Junction in Antipolo, Rizal.

^^ I wish their proposed Niog, Bacoor terminus would be adapted for the big passenger volume. There is a probability that if the Bacoor terminus would be small, the passengers may burst the station and traffic jam worsen. Kaya dapat they have to plan and design it well.

So that's only a suggestion...and most of the people don't know that MRT-2 is LRT-2 Purple Line of today because people generally know that MRT is the one at EDSA and not Aurora. :)

Which is why I think the people should be informed more of the proper usage.

so tuloy na ba talaga yung extension ng lrt 2 to masinag?

^^ I wish their proposed Niog, Bacoor terminus would be adapted for the big passenger volume. There is a probability that if the Bacoor terminus would be small, the passengers may burst the station and traffic jam worsen. Kaya dapat they have to plan and design it well.

Agree.:)(especially with millions of Cavitenos going to Manila and millions of non-cavitenos going to the province. This will also help decongest the city of manila with Cavite buses, pujs and fx services.

But my take is that the national government and the LGU of cavite should seriously consider the revival and extension of the PNR from Carmona up to Cavite. The railway should transverse highly urbanized industrial belt of the province: Rosario (via EPZa by-pass), Kawit, Imus, Dasmarinas, Silang, GMA and Carmona)

This will decongest Aguinaldo, Governor's Drive and Sta. Rosa-tagaytay road...making it easy for tourists and investors to come in and out of Cavite

Is there any word on Line 4 along Quezon Ave from Welcome rotonda going to Quezon circle.

^^ MRT-4 was replaced with MRT-7. I hope ULC will extend MRT-7 through Timog to Quezon Avenue until Doroteo Jose.

^^ MRT-4 was replaced with MRT-7. I hope ULC will extend MRT-7 through Timog to Quezon Avenue until Doroteo Jose.

Yeah. That's also my idea on MRT 7: having a spur all the way to Doroteo Jose while maintaining the North Ave route. Hopefully the ULC realize this.

^^

It's all about the money, I'm pretty confident though that these projects will push through, the public demands it.

Yeah I know but this is just to avoid the confusion, Le Reine. Just my dos sentimos. :2cents: ;)

Because we cannot assume that all people has the same knowledge as we do or same line of thinking. I for example was confused earlier. There might be some underlying history behind naming it or what, right? :)

So that's only a suggestion...and most of the people don't know that MRT-2 is LRT-2 Purple Line of today because people generally know that MRT is the one at EDSA and not Aurora. :)

It can be confusing. Purple Line is runned and managed by the LRTA thus the term LRT-2. But compared to the yellow line and MRT, Purple Line uses heavy rail instead of light rail.

http://dotcmrt3.gov.ph/files/images/train%20no%20board.thumbnail.jpg

Train Specification

Max. no. of cars/ trainset - 4

Lenght of car - 30.3 m

Width of car - 2.5 m

Car useful floor area - 56.94 sq.m

Car occupancy:

No. of trains - 74

No. of standees - 320

Total no. of pax. - 394

source: DOTCMrt3 website (http://dotcmrt3.gov.ph/train_specification)

So the MRT's width is 2.5 m. Then Paris' metro trains can fit in Manila's Line-1 and Line-3 systems since it's 2.4 m by width. Paris' metro trains aren't considered light rail. Both Manila and Paris use standard gauge. The only difference is some of Paris metro cars are rubber tyred. How about using a rubber tyred system on the MRT.

http://www.ukstudentlife.com/Travel/Tours/Paris/Guide/MetroTrain.jpg

Other suitable metro cars

Vancouver Skytrain Mark-I car.

Mexico City Metro

Which is why I think the people should be informed more of the proper usage.

Which is good to know. But do the people have to really know that it is MRT-2 yet it has been acknowledged by the public as LRT-2 to avoid confusion?

It can be confusing. Purple Line is runned and managed by the LRTA thus the term LRT-2. But compared to the yellow line and MRT, Purple Line uses heavy rail instead of light rail.

Which is good to know. But do the people have to really know that it is MRT-2 yet it has been acknowledged by the public as LRT-2 to avoid confusion?

I more know it as LRT-2. That's why Manila's metro systems should be under one management.

...yet it has been acknowledged by the public as LRT-2 to avoid confusion?

Sadly, it only brought more confusion.

^^ Yet just to avoid more confusion, lets just stick to the colloquial term even though if it is politically incorrect. Since again, LRT is managed by LRTA, its much better if we have it that way instead of mixing it up with the one managed by MRTC.

^^

Be it LRT2 or MRT2 its still being referred to as "2", so i guess its still easy to remember.

Several private rail companies run Japan's system and they have so many lines. I don't know if that's bad but the LRTA was a monopoly before and you can see what happened to LRT1.

^^If the government acquire 100% ownership of MRT3.. monopoly na ulit ang LRTA.

I don't know but it seems that LRT and MRT should be nationalized for now. I can see that LRT 1 and MRT 2 is managed quite well but MRT 3 is a pain in the neck, which is owned by private entities.

I hope the government would just iron out the ridiculous provisions in BOT agreement in MRT3, like the sovereign guarantees.

^^ the government already acquired 60% of MRT right?? so i think that's a good step...:)

^^Can that 60% be enough to solve the problems of MRT3?

^^ siguro pwede...

anyway eto ung article tungkol jan... dated 3/2009 so i don't know if there are more recent updates...

Govt control of MRT3 to bring savings, upgrades (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/154847/Govt-control-of-MRT3-to-bring-savings-upgrades[/url)
RUBY ANNE M. RUBIO, GMANews.TV
03/30/2009 | 08:17 PM

MANILA, Philippines - Manila will acquire control of the company running the Metro Rail Transit (MRT), a train system that traverses EDSA, the Philippine capital’s most important highway network.

The move will generate some $235 million in “in savings from refinancing of equity rental payment," Finance Secretary Margarito B. Teves said.

It will also allow government to increase the system’s coaches, reducing the gap between trains, allowing faster travel.

Currently, the government holds 56 percent of the Sobrepena-led consortium that maintains the 13-station MRT after it acquired a portion last December at 26 percent.

But by the third week of April, two GFIs – the Land Bank of the Philippines and the Development Bank of the Philippines (DBP) – will own three-fourths of the Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC), Reynaldo G. David, DBP president and chief executive officer, said in briefing

As a result, the two government banks will secure 10 out of the company’s 14 board seats, the statement said.

“Plans are being formulated to optimize revenue derived from the collateral business in railway system," Teves told reporters. “The government financial institutions (GFIs) can exit from the MRT3 via competitive sale of shares. This will be under public-private partnership scheme."

When asked about the ownership structure, David cited a non-disclosure agreement, disallowing him from divulging details.

"The acquisition gives us economic value. As GFIs, the savings is much more," David said.

Since the government is also providing an annual P5.7-billion subsidy for the MRT3’s operations, a government takeover is better especially when ridership has exceeded to 413,000 people daily, David said.

"When MRT 3 was conceived and caught to reality, the equity stakeholders pushed $190 million to us while the project (cost) is $679 million. The balance of $489 billion is the debt assumed by the government. You have a private MRT yet the government is paying off subsidy plus equity internal rate of return (IRR)...Due to lower interest rate, it does not make sense to guarantee a project of 15 percent IRR," David said.

Equity IRR or return on equity measures how much profit a company gets with the money invested.

The MRTC was awarded a Build-Operate-Transfer (BOT) contract by the Department of Transportation and Communication (DoTC), which will own the system and assume the administrative functions such as regulation of fares and operations.

^^If the government acquire 100% ownership of MRT3.. monopoly na ulit ang LRTA.

What's wrong with a monopoly of metro lines? HK's metro system is now owned by The MTR and its successful.

What's wrong with a monopoly of metro lines? HK's metro system is now owned by The MTR and its successful.

Did I say there is something wrong with the monopoly? I just said "monopoly na ulit". Read before you reply...

^^Can that 60% be enough to solve the problems of MRT3?

They don't have to own 100% of the MRT Corp, 60% is enough to have control of the company. Thus, the DOTC is the one calling the shots now and not the private investors.

Well, in form it is a monopoly, because they are both (MRT Corp and LRTA) under the DOTC (correct me if I'm wrong), however they are independent of each other and not under the same management.

They don't have to own 100% of the MRT Corp, 60% is enough to have control of the company. Thus, the DOTC is the one calling the shots now and not the private investors.

Well, in form it is a monopoly, because they are both (MRT Corp and LRTA) under the DOTC (correct me if I'm wrong), however they are independent of each other and not under the same management.

^^Yes.. that is true. I hope they can produce results before May 2010.

What's wrong with a monopoly of metro lines? HK's metro system is now owned by The MTR and its successful.

But then Japan has multiple private rail companies and its system is successful too.

The problem may not be in the "form" but maybe in the contracts entered into by the government regarding the MRT.

IMO, public transport in the Philippines should be a regulated industry in the hands of a few. Laissez faire does not work for this industry. Look at our jeepneys and buses, and the chaos in our streets. Compare it with Singapore's MRT and bus system and Hong Kong's MTR.

sino po sa inyo ang meron pang natgong clipping ng original mrt plan.


kasi nung bata pa ako nakita ko yung dyario. sobrang ganda ng plan nila for mrt.

merong transfer station sa cubao na parang flyover like airport.

meron nung natapos yungmrt parang lahat ng station di nasunod yung plan.


very efficient yung flow of traffic dun sa propose station.


siguro teknik lang ng developer para ma approve at maaward sa kanila yung project.

tapos pag na-award na sabi kulang pondo di masusunod original design.


ang lupit kasi nung original design daig pa mrt ng singapore.

^^

O nga e, kung mahanap lang yung mga dating drawing nila.

Yung cubao, crossing, and boni station may parking pa nga e para park and ride yung concept.

Puro mga kahon yung ginawa nila e mga sinungaling...

^^

O nga e, kung mahanap lang yung mga dating drawing nila.

Yung cubao, crossing, and boni station may parking pa nga e para park and ride yung concept.

Puro mga kahon yung ginawa nila e mga sinungaling...

Pati yung multimedia ad sa MRT stations na pinakita sa Dokyu ng GMA sa Riles natin noong 90's, wala namang natupad ngayon. Press-release nga lang talaga. Pakitang-tao.

IMO, public transport in the Philippines should be a regulated industry in the hands of a few. Laissez faire does not work for this industry. Look at our jeepneys and buses, and the chaos in our streets. Compare it with Singapore's MRT and bus system and Hong Kong's MTR.

HK and SG are small places so its easy to manage.

^^

O nga e, kung mahanap lang yung mga dating drawing nila.

Yung cubao, crossing, and boni station may parking pa nga e para park and ride yung concept.

Puro mga kahon yung ginawa nila e mga sinungaling...

I've seen the MRT under construction back during the 90s in fact saw a billboard ad on it. They said it's gonna be world class but it really messed up.

Alot of mistakes in the planning of MRT

1) The use of light-rail trams instead of heavy-rail metros. As I mentioned earlier, full-metro cars used in Paris' metro can work on the MRT. Not all of Paris' metro runs on rubber tires.

2) Buying a ticket is already a problem. You have to line-up for several minutes to get your ticket. Ticketing machines can help.

3) The placement of some stations.

HK and SG are small places so its easy to manage.

I totally agree... and both states are way richer have more finances compared to us.

I've seen the MRT under construction back during the 90s in fact saw a billboard ad on it. They said it's gonna be world class but it really messed up.

Alot of mistakes in the planning of MRT

1) The use of light-rail trams instead of heavy-rail metros. As I mentioned earlier, full-metro cars used in Paris' metro can work on the MRT. Not all of Paris' metro runs on rubber tires.

2) Buying a ticket is already a problem. You have to line-up for several minutes to get your ticket. Ticketing machines can help.

3) The placement of some stations.

Some stations have ticket machines.. though many do not notice it as they are a bit placed in odd spots of the station and they are just 2 or 3 in a station and some stations don't even have.

sino po sa inyo ang meron pang natgong clipping ng original mrt plan.


kasi nung bata pa ako nakita ko yung dyario. sobrang ganda ng plan nila for mrt.

merong transfer station sa cubao na parang flyover like airport.

meron nung natapos yungmrt parang lahat ng station di nasunod yung plan.


very efficient yung flow of traffic dun sa propose station.


siguro teknik lang ng developer para ma approve at maaward sa kanila yung project.

tapos pag na-award na sabi kulang pondo di masusunod original design.


ang lupit kasi nung original design daig pa mrt ng singapore.

kung hindi nasunod ung original n designs, hindi ba sila pwedeng idemanda?? hindi ba breach of contract un?

sino po sa inyo ang meron pang natgong clipping ng original mrt plan.


kasi nung bata pa ako nakita ko yung dyario. sobrang ganda ng plan nila for mrt.

merong transfer station sa cubao na parang flyover like airport.

meron nung natapos yungmrt parang lahat ng station di nasunod yung plan.


very efficient yung flow of traffic dun sa propose station.


siguro teknik lang ng developer para ma approve at maaward sa kanila yung project.

tapos pag na-award na sabi kulang pondo di masusunod original design.


ang lupit kasi nung original design daig pa mrt ng singapore.


I got an October 1993 edition of Taipan magazine, featuring Eli Levin's "original" Edsa MRT plan. The long special feature was authored by Bill Velasco. :)

^^ Uy! Scan naman dyan! ;D

I've seen the MRT under construction back during the 90s in fact saw a billboard ad on it. They said it's gonna be world class but it really messed up.

Alot of mistakes in the planning of MRT

1) The use of light-rail trams instead of heavy-rail metros. As I mentioned earlier, full-metro cars used in Paris' metro can work on the MRT. Not all of Paris' metro runs on rubber tires.

2) Buying a ticket is already a problem. You have to line-up for several minutes to get your ticket. Ticketing machines can help.

3) The placement of some stations.

Hindsight is 20/20, although they said they could have a capacity of 600K pax, I'm just wondering why they can't buy additional trains when they projected that even before the project was started.

That's another issue, why the hell can't they install additional ticket vending machines?

I especially don't like the placement of the Ortigas station, all I can think of are possible solutions since it's already there. Like ADB donating some of its land so that there will be a wider sidewalk below the station. SM building a walkaway connecting the station to Megamall. And Robinson's building a walkway too to connect it to Galleria.

I got an October 1993 edition of Taipan magazine, featuring Eli Levin's "original" Edsa MRT plan. The long special feature was authored by Bill Velasco. :)

Yeah, how about scanning it so we can see it?

Bill Velasco? I thought all he knew were sports and basketball.

Hindsight is 20/20, although they said they could have a capacity of 600K pax, I'm just wondering why they can't buy additional trains when they projected that even before the project was started.

That's another issue, why the hell can't they install additional ticket vending machines?

I especially don't like the placement of the Ortigas station, all I can think of are possible solutions since it's already there. Like ADB donating some of its land so that there will be a wider sidewalk below the station. SM building a walkaway connecting the station to Megamall. And Robinson's building a walkway too to connect it to Galleria.

The Ortigas station is poorly placed unlike the Shaw one. They could have placed it right by The Galleria. Those going to Megamall are better off exiting at Shaw.

Are they already ticket vending machines for The MRT? The LRT-2 has several which makes it more convenient.

Are they already ticket vending machines for The MRT? The LRT-2 has several which makes it more convenient.

^^Yes they have. Problema nga lang di sya gaanong pansinin ng tao. Like the one in Ayala station. Nasa left side sya if your facing the turnstile.

^^

Yes there are ticket machines, and it seems that they're not being used or not working.

Problem with Ortigas station is that they can't really place it in front Galleria because of the flyover.

There's actually a big hole opposite of POEA where they were supposed to build a "skycity" until it was blocked by the courts due to zoning. Maybe they could build another station there and combine it with the office building similar to some stations in Japan.

Hindsight is 20/20, although they said they could have a capacity of 600K pax, I'm just wondering why they can't buy additional trains when they projected that even before the project was started.

That's another issue, why the hell can't they install additional ticket vending machines?

I especially don't like the placement of the Ortigas station, all I can think of are possible solutions since it's already there. Like ADB donating some of its land so that there will be a wider sidewalk below the station. SM building a walkaway connecting the station to Megamall. And Robinson's building a walkway too to connect it to Galleria.

ang matagal nang inirereklamo ng mga taga SSC: Ortigas Station at ADB :lol:

^^Yes they have. Problema nga lang di sya gaanong pansinin ng tao. Like the one in Ayala station. Nasa left side sya if your facing the turnstile.

^^

Yes there are ticket machines, and it seems that they're not being used or not working.

Problem with Ortigas station is that they can't really place it in front Galleria because of the flyover.

There's actually a big hole opposite of POEA where they were supposed to build a "skycity" until it was blocked by the courts due to zoning. Maybe they could build another station there and combine it with the office building similar to some stations in Japan.

Meron ngang ticket machines, kaso, yung iba hindi naman nagana o hindi strategically placed.

^^

There's actually a big hole opposite of POEA where they were supposed to build a "skycity" until it was blocked by the courts due to zoning. Maybe they could build another station there and combine it with the office building similar to some stations in Japan.

^^ So why not do the same thing as the NYC transit did?
There is one station in NY subway at 50th St. & 8th Ave., South bound. When the city renovated the station, there was a problem with the exit too narrow and the side walk be narrow also. The city asked the building beside the subway, if the propose exit can encroach their basement? They did some negotiation and the building owner gave about 1/4 of the basement area plus the ground floor and the city approved the zoning change and have the building added 10 storeys more plus tax breaks. :)

The Ortigas station is poorly placed unlike the Shaw one. They could have placed it right by The Galleria. Those going to Megamall are better off exiting at Shaw.

Are they already ticket vending machines for The MRT? The LRT-2 has several which makes it more convenient.

The Catholic guys over the Edsa shrine, I remember, "requested" Erap to move the MRT3 "Ortigas" (meaning near or in front of Ortigas AVENUE) station so that the shrine will not get dimmed by the station.

kung hindi nasunod ung original n designs, hindi ba sila pwedeng idemanda?? hindi ba breach of contract un?Ang tanong, yung ba talaga ang nasa details ng design nila or yung lang yung PR nila bago itayo MRT, para lang walang magreklamo?! Eh ang NAIA T3 nga, nasa plan na at lahat, naapprove na eh nabago pa nila, MRT pa kaya?! :dunno:

^^Yes they have. Problema nga lang di sya gaanong pansinin ng tao. Like the one in Ayala station. Nasa left side sya if your facing the turnstile.
^^
Yes there are ticket machines, and it seems that they're not being used or not working.The machines are not only inconspicuous, they are really not working at all.

From wiki:
The Project, which is Phase-1 of a more comprehensive system, is located generally within the existing median of EDSA and extends for approximately 17 kilometers from North Avenue in Quezon City in the north, to Taft Avenue in Pasay City in the south. Phase-2 provides for the 5.2 kilometer extension of the system from North Avenue toward Monumento Circle in Caloocan City and an interconnecting loop through Ayala Center in Makati.Ah! So there was really a plan for a loop to Ayala?! I guess this is the unfinished underground tunnel portion that I usu see before going to Ayala Station from North Ave.

^^ Pano kaya nila gagawin yun kung matuloy man ano ? Eh may flyover na sa kanto ng EDSA/Ayala. Mahirap maghukay na may structure na ganun sa ibabaw. Unless yun nga shelved na talaga for good.

^^

Ba't kaya di natuloy yon? That could be so convenient for the people who work in Makati, sana matuloy. Kaso puro pulis kasi nag he-head ng mga transpo agencies natin ngayon kaya lagi may hocus pokus e.

Actually naka plastic pa nga yung ibang machines e.

@AmbutLang

I think that's possible, everything is negotiable.

^^ Pano kaya nila gagawin yun kung matuloy man ano ? Eh may flyover na sa kanto ng EDSA/Ayala. Mahirap maghukay na may structure na ganun sa ibabaw. Unless yun nga shelved na talaga for good.

It could probably go under the part of Ayala Ave na di sakop ng foundations ng flyover. Hmm, dapat matuloy na talaga yung loop na yan, sarap niyon pag baba mo sa loob ka na ng makati.

^^ ang laking tulong nan kung NATULOY yan. Sayang.

The machines are not only inconspicuous, they are really not working at all.


^^Some machines do work. Like the one in Taft station and Ayala station.

^^ ang laking tulong nan kung NATULOY yan. Sayang.

^^Tama!! Lalu na kung isabay sa LRT1 North Extension. Isang ride na lang papuntang Makati... And that is kung tatakbo na ang tren ng LRT1 sa tracks ng MRT3. :lol:

^^Some machines do work. Like the one in Taft station and Ayala station.



^^Tama!! Lalu na kung isabay sa LRT1 North Extension. Isang ride na lang papuntang Makati... And that is kung tatakbo na ang tren ng LRT1 sa tracks ng MRT3. :lol:

All Manila metro lines run on standard gauge

^^Except PNR and Southrail project.

^^ Pano kaya nila gagawin yun kung matuloy man ano ? Eh may flyover na sa kanto ng EDSA/Ayala. Mahirap maghukay na may structure na ganun sa ibabaw. Unless yun nga shelved na talaga for good.Yung dadaanan nung tunnel ata before dun sa intersection na maraming flyover. Tsaka sa engineering ngayon hindi impossible. Sa Thailand nga, may subway na may skyway pa tapos may train pa sa ibabaw.

^^
Ba't kaya di natuloy yon? That could be so convenient for the people who work in Makati, sana matuloy. Kaso puro pulis kasi nag he-head ng mga transpo agencies natin ngayon kaya lagi may hocus pokus e.
Actually naka plastic pa nga yung ibang machines e.
@AmbutLang
I think that's possible, everything is negotiable.
It could probably go under the part of Ayala Ave na di sakop ng foundations ng flyover. Hmm, dapat matuloy na talaga yung loop na yan, sarap niyon pag baba mo sa loob ka na ng makati.
^^ ang laking tulong nan kung NATULOY yan. Sayang.Sayang talaga. According to the plan, which is in wiki, the planned connection in Ayala would also be connected to a people-mover going around Ayala Center. *sighs* what might have beens...

I've also seen that the MRT3 costs $675.5 for just 17kms (double track)whereas Northrail is $1B for 82km (double track). So which is more expensive? Hay naku, Drilon...

Yung dadaanan nung tunnel ata before dun sa intersection na maraming flyover. Tsaka sa engineering ngayon hindi impossible. Sa Thailand nga, may subway na may skyway pa tapos may train pa sa ibabaw.


^^Parang yung Buendia flyover. Bago pa hinukay ang tunnel ng MRT nandyan na yung flyover. Pero nagawan nila ng solusyon.. :D:D

There must be some reason why they discontinued the Ayala Loop, but if the people demand it they might look into again. I'm thinking the Asian Crisis had something to do with it, maybe their debt ballooned when the peso crashed.

It seems that most of their "grand plans" didn't come into fruition, but now that the DOTC has control over the MRT maybe they could look into those plans again.

^^Because Binay is the mayor of Makati. Hehehehe... :lol: Just like the LRT South extension, hanggang ngayon wala pa rin. :ohno:

^^Because Binay is the mayor of Makati. Hehehehe... :lol: Just like the LRT South extension, hanggang ngayon wala pa rin. :ohno:

Makati badly needs a spur train line, i.e. tram, people-mover, monorail or light rail, to connect with The Fort as well. But as long as there's a 'black cloud' over the city administration, the city will face a dim future in urban transport.

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i'm really puzzled about that pylon under construction... nag-iisa lang naman sya...

at mukhang mas malaki yan kesa sa nandun sa Balintawak... although there are seven(?) such pylons in Balintawak...

^^Because Binay is the mayor of Makati. Hehehehe... :lol: Just like the LRT South extension, hanggang ngayon wala pa rin. :ohno:

But binay is not the mayor of Pasay and parañaque.:bash::bash::bash:

Its about time someone complains of the dreaded disfiguration of the Bonifacio shrine. I really hope it somehow complements it rather than just making it look like a sideline memorial - EDSA shrine is okay because its meant to be on that area with those flyovers, but doing that for Bonifacio, well I think someone is going to stir in his grave

- Plmetzen


RESIDENTS COMPLAIN:
LRT loop sullies Bonifacio shrine

By Beverly T. Natividad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 17:23:00 07/07/2009


Filed Under: Railway, history


MANILA, Philippines — A group of Caloocan residents are questioning the ongoing construction of the Light Rail Transit (LRT) North Extension Project in Monumento for not specifically taking into consideration how it will affect the landscape of the Bonifacio Monument.

What is worse, according to the Caloocan City People’s Council (CCPC), is that while the impending infrastructure clearly violates the National Historical Institute’s (NHI) own guidelines on monuments honoring national heroes, the agency has remained mum on the issue.

“Even the Japanese during their occupation did not touch the Monumento rotunda and now we are doing it. Why is the NHI acceding to what the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) want without so much as a public scrutiny?” said Rolando Ocampo, founder of the CCPC, in the interview.

The NHI guidelines on monuments honoring historical heroes provide that it must be treated as hallowed grounds and that any form of desecration against the monument – such as squatting, graffiti and improper advertising shall not be allowed.

It added that such monuments should maintain a “simple and unobstructed landscape development,” and that “commercial billboards should not proliferate in a town center where a dominant monument is situated.”

Ocampo rued the proliferation of huge commercial billboards at the juncture of Monumento and EDSA where the Bonifacio Monument stood.

The construction of the LRT-MRT Loop, which would connect LRT’s Baclaran station to the MRT’s North Avenue station, would further ruin the view to the monument and dwarf Andres Bonifacio’s dignified memorial, Ocampo said.

“This is a cultural holocaust of the Monumento. If they did something like this at the Luneta, people would have immediately complained. But why are they treating Bonifacio’s monument this way?” said Ocampo.

“The LRTA has a lot of explaining to do. The NHI should wake up and stand up for the protection of the Bonifacio Monument,” he added.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20090707-214322/LRT-loop-sullies-Bonifacio-shrine

LRT loop sullies Bonifacio shrine [/SIZE]

By Beverly T. Natividad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 17:23:00 07/07/2009


Filed Under: Railway, history


MANILA, Philippines — A group of Caloocan residents are questioning the ongoing construction of the Light Rail Transit (LRT) North Extension Project in Monumento for not specifically taking into consideration how it will affect the landscape of the Bonifacio Monument.

What is worse, according to the Caloocan City People’s Council (CCPC), is that while the impending infrastructure clearly violates the National Historical Institute’s (NHI) own guidelines on monuments honoring national heroes, the agency has remained mum on the issue.

“Even the Japanese during their occupation did not touch the Monumento rotunda and now we are doing it. Why is the NHI acceding to what the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) want without so much as a public scrutiny?” said Rolando Ocampo, founder of the CCPC, in the interview.

The NHI guidelines on monuments honoring historical heroes provide that it must be treated as hallowed grounds and that any form of desecration against the monument – such as squatting, graffiti and improper advertising shall not be allowed.

It added that such monuments should maintain a “simple and unobstructed landscape development,” and that “commercial billboards should not proliferate in a town center where a dominant monument is situated.”

Ocampo rued the proliferation of huge commercial billboards at the juncture of Monumento and EDSA where the Bonifacio Monument stood.

The construction of the LRT-MRT Loop, which would connect LRT’s Baclaran station to the MRT’s North Avenue station, would further ruin the view to the monument and dwarf Andres Bonifacio’s dignified memorial, Ocampo said.

“This is a cultural holocaust of the Monumento. If they did something like this at the Luneta, people would have immediately complained. But why are they treating Bonifacio’s monument this way?” said Ocampo.

“The LRTA has a lot of explaining to do. The NHI should wake up and stand up for the protection of the Bonifacio Monument,” he added.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20090707-214322/LRT-loop-sullies-Bonifacio-shrine


I think, having those suffocating billboards around Bonifacio monument is a more serious problem. I am just puzzled why only this time that there are concern citizens surfacing to protect integrity of our monuments and shrines. If they have filed for petition earlier before the LRT-MRT Loop started, maybe the gov't can redesign the line near the monument and place it underground or realign it to nearest street parallel to EDSA. I think, grumbling about this project nowadays is futile.

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Yup those are definitely walkways similar to those in the original LRT1 line. Here's my shot while driving along EDSA the other day:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/ronx13/Trains/ABCD0003.jpg

Problem is, I think the design is also concrete, unlike LRT2 that used a metal flooring for the walkway. I have this feeling that the wall for the walkway will also be concrete. Hope I'm wrong...

I am just puzzled why only this time that there are concern citizens surfacing to protect integrity of our monuments and shrines.

Crabs.

nakakainis kasi d maglabas ng renderings kung ano magiging itsura talaga sa may munomento ng lrt dun

It's already printed on countless LRT tickets.

^Speaking of tickets, I hope these have not been posted before... :)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_8ZDx9X3Zbm4/SkTTh2uyamI/AAAAAAAAOqY/LSJG5TAYkqY/s512/DSC08244.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_8ZDx9X3Zbm4/SkTTlO91MrI/AAAAAAAAOqg/pCgAUfZB4QY/s512/DSC08246.JPG


http://lh3.ggpht.com/_8ZDx9X3Zbm4/SkTTmJaGQFI/AAAAAAAAOqk/Xx6LxfULcCI/s512/DSC08247.JPG

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PS. I like the eagle one.

^^ neat!!!! Yeah....the eagle one rocks..

^^Because Binay is the mayor of Makati. Hehehehe... :lol: Just like the LRT South extension, hanggang ngayon wala pa rin. :ohno:

ganun kasi sila sa Makati... :lol:

as for us here in the South, magdudusa pa kami to the max! :bash:

I think, having those suffocating billboards around Bonifacio monument is a more serious problem. I am just puzzled why only this time that there are concern citizens surfacing to protect integrity of our monuments and shrines. If they have filed for petition earlier before the LRT-MRT Loop started, maybe the gov't can redesign the line near the monument and place it underground or realign it to nearest street parallel to EDSA. I think, grumbling about this project nowadays is futile.

yeah, those billboards make the place look dirty... :ohno::bash:

now it doesn't look like a historical site anymore...

as for those "concerned citizens", i don't know if they filed a petition.. pero kasi matagal ko nang naririnig yang mga reklamo nilang yan... hindi pa nagsisimula ang construction eh nanjan na sila at nagdadakdak...

kaso wala naman yatang formal complaint...

But binay is not the mayor of Pasay and parañaque.:bash::bash::bash:

^^I'm talking about the spur line that supposed to run under Ayala avenue.

ganun kasi sila sa Makati... :lol:

as for us here in the South, magdudusa pa kami to the max! :bash:

Yeah... Mukhang ganun na nga. Mas ma uuna munang i-rehab ng breast implant ni presidente kaysa dyan sa construction ng south extension. :lol:

i'm really puzzled about that pylon under construction... nag-iisa lang naman sya...

at mukhang mas malaki yan kesa sa nandun sa Balintawak... although there are seven(?) such pylons in Balintawak...

May isa pang malalim na hukay malapit dyan, so madadagdagan pa iyan at hindi na muling mag-iisa pa :lol:

I've also seen that the MRT3 costs $675.5 for just 17kms (double track)whereas Northrail is $1B for 82km (double track). So which is more expensive? Hay naku, Drilon...

No offense meant, but, is it fair to compare the two in terms of dollars per kilometer?