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apiong

July 8th, 2009, 01:11 PM

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/166911/SM-Group-to-partially-pay-for-terminal-to-connect-three-rail-systems

SM Group to partially pay for terminal to connect three rail systems
07/08/2009 | 05:28 PM
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MANILA, Philippines - The SM Group has committed to partially shoulder the cost of the terminal which will connect the capital's three train systems.

Sources said the government has confirmed the approval of the inter-agency Investment Coordination Committee for the proposed project by the Light Rail Transit Authority to put up the Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal across SM North Edsa mall. SM will be extending P200 million for the project.

SM's financial assistance will bring down cost of the terminal from P778 million to P578 million. As a condition for the financial assistance, the station will be called the SM-Trinoma station. While SM will be shouldering portion of the cost for the terminal, Ayala Land, which owns and operates Trinoma mall, will fund the construction of the pedestrian walkway that will connect the SM-Trinoma station to Trinoma.

The LRTA, meanwhile, assured Malacanang that the agency will finish the construction of the LRT Line North Extension by December 2009.

The government has earlier deferred the approval of the terminal following a proposal from Vice President Noli de Castro, who is also chairman of the National Housing Agency (NHA), to locate the facility at the vacant NHA property beside Trinoma.

The facility, which may cost P1.5 billion, will connect MRT 3, which runs from Pasay to Quezon City; LRT 1, which stretches from Monumento to Baclaran; and MRT 7, which will span Commonwealth Avenue to Bulacan.

LRT1 and MRT 3 will soon be connected, allowing commuters to travel from Pasay to Caloocan City. Cheryl M. Arcibal, GMANews.TV

boroyski

July 8th, 2009, 01:12 PM

SM Group to partially pay for terminal to connect three rail systems

MANILA, Philippines - The SM Group has committed to partially shoulder the cost of the terminal which will connect the capital's three train systems.

Sources said the government has confirmed the approval of the inter-agency Investment Coordination Committee for the proposed project by the Light Rail Transit Authority to put up the Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal across SM North Edsa mall. SM will be extending P200 million for the project.

SM's financial assistance will bring down cost of the terminal from P778 million to P578 million. As a condition for the financial assistance, the station will be called the SM-Trinoma station. While SM will be shouldering portion of the cost for the terminal, Ayala Land, which owns and operates Trinoma mall, will fund the construction of the pedestrian walkway that will connect the SM-Trinoma station to Trinoma.

The LRTA, meanwhile, assured Malacanang that the agency will finish the construction of the LRT Line North Extension by December 2009.

The government has earlier deferred the approval of the terminal following a proposal from Vice President Noli de Castro, who is also chairman of the National Housing Agency (NHA), to locate the facility at the vacant NHA property beside Trinoma.

The facility, which may cost P1.5 billion, will connect MRT 3, which runs from Pasay to Quezon City; LRT 1, which stretches from Monumento to Baclaran; and MRT 7, which will span Commonwealth Avenue to Bulacan.

LRT1 and MRT 3 will soon be connected, allowing commuters to travel from Pasay to Caloocan City. Cheryl M. Arcibal, GMANews.TV

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/166911/SM-Group-to-partially-pay-for-terminal-to-connect-three-rail-systems

adgaps

July 8th, 2009, 01:16 PM

SM Group to partially pay for terminal to connect three rail systems

SM's financial assistance will bring down cost of the terminal from P778 million to P578 million. As a condition for the financial assistance, the station will be called the SM-Trinoma station. While SM will be shouldering portion of the cost for the terminal, Ayala Land, which owns and operates Trinoma mall, will fund the construction of the pedestrian walkway that will connect the SM-Trinoma station to Trinoma.

^^ mukhang nagkasundo na sila ah... :cheers:

so, tuloy na kaya ang Grand central Terminal? i hope so...

RonnieR

July 8th, 2009, 01:19 PM

Planning Democracy

July 8th, 2009, 01:28 PM

I don't like the potential location, but what's important is that it's pushing through.

Maybe SM should also fund a walkway that will connect Ortigas station to Megamall? Or Robinson's doing the same too to connect to Galleria?

adgaps

July 8th, 2009, 02:35 PM

^^ i like that idea too... :okay:

pero sana dati pa nilang ginawa yun... para hindi na maglalakad ng malayo fron Ortigas station going to Galleria...

anyway, it's really a good thing that SM has decided to spend for the Grand Central Terminal... and the name for the terminal "SM-Trinoma", suggests that somehow, the two parties involved have already decided to have the station put up for the benefit of both malls, and also of the people... :cheers:

glenbsantos

July 8th, 2009, 02:42 PM

^^ mukhang nagkasundo na sila ah... :cheers:

so, tuloy na kaya ang Grand central Terminal? i hope so...

I hope, I hope! Sana matuloy na. Para naman seamless na ang ridership natin. Kasi when i went to HK, may integrated terminal sila dun. Very comfortable ang pag-transfer from one train to another kasi malapit lng ang lalakarin. Besides mag-boom din ang economy natin.

adgaps

July 8th, 2009, 02:49 PM

I hope, I hope! Sana matuloy na. Para naman seamless na ang ridership natin. Kasi when i went to HK, may integrated terminal sila dun. Very comfortable ang pag-transfer from one train to another kasi malapit lng ang lalakarin. Besides mag-boom din ang economy natin.

^^ that'll happen kapag naitayo na ang MRT7... not only will it connect parts of Northern Metro Manila to the business centers, it will also help in decongesting the metropolis... kasi mas mabilis na ang travel to Manila, so kahit sa Bulacan ka nakatira, ok lang dahil mabilis na ang travel time to ang from Manila..

at kapag naitayo na rin ang LRT1 South Extension, yun na ang talagang BOOM! :banana::banana:

barrera_marquez

July 8th, 2009, 04:04 PM

jefflacs

July 8th, 2009, 04:56 PM

Now, the problem is Bagong Barrio. What will happen kaya sa station na yun? Sino kayang magbabayad doon? Actually kahit single-platform lang ang Bagong Barrio wala nang angal ang mga taga-Bagong Barrio, that will bring down the cost from P 600 million to at least P 200 million, maybe P 100 million nga lang kung stairs and ramps lang instead of escalators and elevators.

knowing filipinos, kapag naconstruct yan tapos the facilities are not the same as the other stations, madaming magrereklamo kesyo walng ganito walang gan yan at kesyo tinipid. kung coconstruct nila yung station make sure na lang na same specs as other stations. but at the end of the day, budget ang magiging problem niyan

ionmarx

July 8th, 2009, 06:27 PM

Sharing a few updates/shots I took while there was heavy traffic along EDSA :)

Flow of pictures go from Balintawak towards SM North EDSA.

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^^ So... Very good news that the original plan will finally push through :carrot: With SM's funding, this SM-Trinoma station better be perfectly designed :D

(Problem: How can it be a "-Trinoma" station when the existing MRT3 North Avenue station is a lot lot closer to it? Weird.)

cq40

July 8th, 2009, 07:00 PM

queetz@home

July 9th, 2009, 12:31 AM

Okay, this is definitely good news about SM ponying up cash but I guess the most important part of the whole equation is the location of the Grand Central terminal. Will it be at the original and proper location, which is beside the SM North Annex, or will it be in that really stupid NHA lot that will mean no extension of MRT3?

The government has earlier deferred the approval of the terminal following a proposal from Vice President Noli de Castro, who is also chairman of the National Housing Agency (NHA), to locate the facility at the vacant NHA property beside Trinoma.

Doesn't really say that it will still be located in the vacant NHA property. Just stating an event that we all know about...

While SM will be shouldering portion of the cost for the terminal, Ayala Land, which owns and operates Trinoma mall, will fund the construction of the pedestrian walkway that will connect the SM-Trinoma station to Trinoma.

Seems to imply that the grand central terminal will be far away from Trinoma, hopefully ruling out that stupid NHA lot proposal...hope hope.

The facility, which may cost P1.5 billion, will connect MRT 3, which runs from Pasay to Quezon City; LRT 1, which stretches from Monumento to Baclaran; and MRT 7, which will span Commonwealth Avenue to Bulacan.

Implies that MRT3 and LRT1 will be connected somehow, though the definition of connect varies. If only they would explain in great detail...

The LRTA, meanwhile, assured Malacanang that the agency will finish the construction of the LRT Line North Extension by December 2009.

They are running out of time, judging by the pics, they still have a ways to go. Though they can definitely finish construction and have trains running but it may not be open to the public. Same thing happened with the Canada Line in Vancouver. Its still not open but a couple of months ago, they already got the government officials to board a train for some press coverage and run through the entire system. I betcha the same thing will happen here. Definitely doable but I doubt any of us will be able to use it this Christmas.

filcan

July 9th, 2009, 01:35 AM

lancetrn

July 9th, 2009, 02:23 AM

GMA approves P777-m rail terminal at SM North Edsa
By Joyce Pangco Pañares

President Arroyo has approved the P777-million Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal where three major transport routes will converge in front of SM North Edsa.

Light Rail Transit Authority Administrator Melquiades Robles said the approval was made during yesterday’s National Economic and Development Authority Board-Cabinet meeting at the Palace.

He said the project would link Metro Rail Transit line 3, which runs from Taft Avenue, Pasay City to North Edsa, Quezon City; LRT 1, which stretches from Monumento, Caloocan City to Baclaran; and MRT 7, which will traverse Commonwealth Avenue to San Jose City in Bulacan.

“The three train lines will converge in one station and there will be seamless transfer from one line to another. This will be operational by June 2010,” he said.

The common station, which was supposed to be constructed in front of the Trinoma mall in Quezon City for P1.5 billion, will now be located across SM North Edsa.

“The net effective cost is about P777 million. The Development Bank of the Philippines has committed to make funds available for this project,” Robles said.

He said the physical infrastructure to close the loop between LRT 1 and MRT 3 will be put in place by December 2009. By February next year, two additional stations within the loop, namely Balintawak and Roosevelt, will be operational.

The MRT-LRT loop is estimated to cost P6 billion, Robles said.
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=police1_july8_2009

Ecija

July 9th, 2009, 02:46 AM

^^Good news! GCT will be operational by June next year.:cheers:

happosai

July 9th, 2009, 04:00 AM

SM-Trinoma station... Pag turista ka o bagong salta ka lang dito sa Manila. Baka mapagkamalan mo pang SM ang may ari ng Trinoma. :lol:

cq40

July 9th, 2009, 04:10 AM

Weird that SM seems to be paying P200 million for only the naming rights to the station, but all Ayala has to do is build a pedestrian walkway to their OWN mall to get their name on the station as well.
Hindi sila magbabayad kasi mas malapit sa SM ang station, lol. Kung titingnan, magbebenifit talaga ang SM, they just have to pay. At least may pedestrian walkway, i hope this walkway looks seamless with TriNoma. or sana Airconditioned, oh diba :cheers:

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The common station, which was supposed to be constructed in front of the Trinoma mall in Quezon City for P1.5 billion, will now be located across SM North Edsa.
...
He said the physical infrastructure to close the loop between LRT 1 and MRT 3 will be put in place by December 2009. By February next year, two additional stations within the loop, namely [SIZE="5"]Balintawak and Roosevelt, will be operational.

The MRT-LRT loop is estimated to cost P6 billion, Robles said.
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=police1_july8_2009
I just love to read official articles that does not include Bagong Barrio. It makes you exhale so good. Haaaay! :cheers:

ruralvillage

July 9th, 2009, 04:21 AM

GMA approves P777-m rail terminal at SM North Edsa (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=police1_July8_2009)
Manila Standard (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=police1_July8_2009)
By Joyce Pangco Pañares

President Arroyo has approved the P777-million Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal where three major transport routes will converge in front of SM North Edsa.

Light Rail Transit Authority Administrator Melquiades Robles said the approval was made during yesterday’s National Economic and Development Authority Board-Cabinet meeting at the Palace.

He said the project would link Metro Rail Transit line 3, which runs from Taft Avenue, Pasay City to North Edsa, Quezon City; LRT 1, which stretches from Monumento, Caloocan City to Baclaran; and MRT 7, which will traverse Commonwealth Avenue to San Jose City in Bulacan.

“The three train lines will converge in one station and there will be seamless transfer from one line to another. This will be operational by June 2010,” he said.

The common station, which was supposed to be constructed in front of the Trinoma mall in Quezon City for P1.5 billion, will now be located across SM North Edsa.

“The net effective cost is about P777 million. The Development Bank of the Philippines has committed to make funds available for this project,” Robles said.

He said the physical infrastructure to close the loop between LRT 1 and MRT 3 will be put in place by December 2009. By February next year, two additional stations within the loop, namely Balintawak and Roosevelt, will be operational.

The MRT-LRT loop is estimated to cost P6 billion, Robles said.

queetz@home

July 9th, 2009, 04:22 AM

ruralvillage

July 9th, 2009, 04:28 AM

SM Group to inject funds into Grand Central Terminal construction (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/july/09/yehey/business/20090709bus7.html)
Manila times (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/july/09/yehey/business/20090709bus7.html)

The shopping mall unit of the SM group will be injecting funds into the construction of the Grand Central Terminal for the three mass rail transits (MRT) near SM North EDSA, a source said.

According to the source, the Sy family-led SM Prime Holdings Inc. has offered P200 million to partly finance the terminal.

The National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) board has approved the Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal (MMIRT) project on Tuesday with the understanding that the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) would accept SM Prime’s offer.

This will cut the government’s original capital outlay for the project to P578 million from P778 million, the source added.

“The station shall be named the SM-TriNoma station as a condition in the P200-million donation of SM and TriNoma financing and construction of pedestrian walkway from TriNoma to SM,” the source said.

The MMIRT aims to provide a common terminal for easy passenger transfer between

Metro Rail Transit Line 3 (MRT 3) and Line 7 (MRT 7). This will also connect passengers to the Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1), which is being extended from its Monumento terminal.

The source said Mel Robles, LRTA administrator assured President Gloria Arroyo that the agency plans to complete the station and LRT Line 1 North extension by December 2009 from the earlier target of May 2010.

The LRT 1 North Extension Project has original four stations namely, Monumento, Balintawak, Roosevelt and North Avenue.

The Balintawak station will provide modal interchange with bus and jeepney services entering Metro Manila from the north via the North Luzon Expressway.

Once the extension is complete, the LRT 1 is expected to serve about 800,000 to 1 million passengers.

The LRT 1 North Extension Project, which aims to close the EDSA Loop, will need three additional stations from the existing Monumento Station and ending at the North Avenue Station of MRT 3.
-- Darwin G. Amojelar

TeslaCoil

July 9th, 2009, 04:35 AM

Gloomy na naman ang EDSA nito. Syang yung lost adjacent to Trinoma.

Singlishman

July 9th, 2009, 04:37 AM

Ecija

July 9th, 2009, 04:48 AM

Gloomy na naman ang EDSA nito. Syang yung lost adjacent to Trinoma.

Sana nga makagawa sila ng design na hindi masyado didilim ang edsa at masasabi nating eco-friendly.

Planning Democracy

July 9th, 2009, 05:00 AM

^^ that'll happen kapag naitayo na ang MRT7... not only will it connect parts of Northern Metro Manila to the business centers, it will also help in decongesting the metropolis... kasi mas mabilis na ang travel to Manila, so kahit sa Bulacan ka nakatira, ok lang dahil mabilis na ang travel time to ang from Manila..

at kapag naitayo na rin ang LRT1 South Extension, yun na ang talagang BOOM! :banana::banana:

I'm really not expecting a lot in terms of reducing congestion, but it's sure to cut the travel times for those who choose to take the train.

Updates on the MRT 7: It's currently in the design phase for structural engineering, nothing special about the architecture of the stations but at least they're not being presented as "grand plans" similar to what MRT3 did.

The QC Circle Station will be underground, the station will be right inside QC circle, underground walkways will connect it to QC Hall. It continues to go underground cutting straight through the circle (but not in the center mind you) until the Philcoa station which is also underground. The Philcoa station is under the center island near the intersection going to University Avenue. Underground walkways will also connect it to Philcoa and on the other side. From there it goes above ground again heading towards Commonwealth. In Commonwealth some parts are similar to MRT3 where it has ground level tracks, this is due to the topography wherein the rail tracks must be within a particular slope percentage.

What I like about this Philcoa station is that there's a provision for an underground spur line which will connect it to LRT 2, surprise surprise. Imagine taking the LRT 2 and then going down at the Philcoa station, now that's convenient.

Planning Democracy

July 9th, 2009, 05:06 AM

Gloomy na naman ang EDSA nito. Syang yung lost adjacent to Trinoma.

Right on, walang consideration sa street level views. Anyway, it's water under the bridge since tuloy na and what I see with the GCT design is that ma co-cover nga yung EDSA, the darkness will probably be similar to the darkness in the EDSA Crossing station so malamang magkakaroon ng mga 24 hour lights yon under the station.

edly

July 9th, 2009, 05:56 AM

What I like about this Philcoa station is that there's a provision for an underground spur line which will connect it to LRT 2, surprise surprise. Imagine taking the LRT 2 and then going down at the Philcoa station, now that's convenient.

Wow! If that happens, it will definitely decongest Katipunan and Aurora boulevard as well. By the way, are you from the ULC?

RonnieR

July 9th, 2009, 06:00 AM

When times are tough, Pinoys commute

by Kristine Servando, abs-cbnNEWS.com/Newsbreak | 07/08/2009 8:35 PM

MANILA - More and more Metro Manila residents are taking to public transport during the economic crunch, a Nielsen survey revealed.

The survey, which focused on the travel habits of commuters on the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) and Light Rail Transit (LRT) systems, showed that 78% or 5.78 million people in Metro Manila are riding the trains at an average of 4 to 5 times a week.

Jay Bautista, Executive Director of Nielsen Philippines, said this may be in response to high gasoline prices and the economic slowdown. "Even white collar workers are now riding trains because oil prices are going up. Businessmen, too, are using it rather than bringing their own cars," he said.

The survey showed that MRT-3 riders are predominantly white collar and blue collar workers aged 25 to 49, while LRT-1 riders are primarily students aged 15 to 24.

LRT-2 had the same student demographic, but also showed a distinct set of businessmen passengers aged 50 and above. Nielsen found that the LRT-2 is a favorite route taken by businessmen who want to buy cheap goods at Divisoria, a bargain hotspot in Manila.

Bing Kimpo, a marketing executive working for the Metro Rail Transit Corporation, said that the MRT-3 line has seen a spike in passenger volume early this year because some drivers wanted to save on gas.

"Passengers would ditch their cars or park at a nearby mall and take the train instead. You're seeing that kind of phenomenon," he said.

MRT-3 stretches from SM North in Quezon City to Taft Avenue in Pasay. LRT-1 services routes from Monumento in Caloocan to Baclaran. LRT-2, meanwhile, goes from Santolan in Pasig to Recto in Manila.

Commuter profile

The survey also found that commuters have favorite train stations where they tend to crowd, like Cubao, North Edsa, and Taft stations on MRT-3.

Peak hours, when trains are busiest and coaches are packed with people, are from 5:30 a.m. to 9:45 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. to 7 p.m.

Bautista said this information could help the MRT and LRT administrations devise ways on how to lessen passenger traffic at certain stations.

"They could put more benches or have special arrangements to accommodate more people," he said.

Further, the survey noted that train commuters are:

* movie fanatics
* cautious buyers
* technologically savvy
* conscious about their physical appearance; and
* more likely to go malls and dine in fast food outlets than the average consumer.

Based on Nielsen's Media Index for the first quarter of 2009, 92% of train riders eat at fast food outlets or go to malls twice a month, on average.

Kimpo said this may be because the MRT and LRT trains "deliver passengers right at the doorstep or within walking distance of malls."

Finally, the survey showed that about half of Metro Manila residents (52%) or 4.2 million people are spending more and more time outdoors. "We're more mobile now. People tend to stay out of the house until late into the night," Kimpo said.

Planning Democracy

July 9th, 2009, 06:04 AM

Wow! If that happens, it will definitely decongest Katipunan and Aurora boulevard as well. By the way, are you from the ULC?

No but I saw the plans yesterday, shempre dapat ikalat na kaagad dito sa SSC yung info. :)

edly

July 9th, 2009, 06:08 AM

No but I saw the plans yesterday, shempre dapat ikalat na kaagad dito sa SSC yung info. :)

Where did you see the plans? wow, you're blessed to view them. Yes. Hopefully the info will be shared here. Thanks in advance!

happosai

July 9th, 2009, 06:18 AM

What I like about this Philcoa station is that there's a provision for an underground spur line which will connect it to LRT 2, surprise surprise. Imagine taking the LRT 2 and then going down at the Philcoa station, now that's convenient.

How? I mean what is the route of this? Is this purely underground? Line 2 is the Aurora Blvd line dba?

nico216

July 9th, 2009, 06:50 AM

Its about time someone complains of the dreaded disfiguration of the Bonifacio shrine. I really hope it somehow complements it rather than just making it look like a sideline memorial - EDSA shrine is okay because its meant to be on that area with those flyovers, but doing that for Bonifacio, well I think someone is going to stir in his grave

- Plmetzen

RESIDENTS COMPLAIN:
LRT loop sullies Bonifacio shrine

By Beverly T. Natividad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 17:23:00 07/07/2009

Filed Under: Railway, history

MANILA, Philippines — A group of Caloocan residents are questioning the ongoing construction of the Light Rail Transit (LRT) North Extension Project in Monumento for not specifically taking into consideration how it will affect the landscape of the Bonifacio Monument.

What is worse, according to the Caloocan City People’s Council (CCPC), is that while the impending infrastructure clearly violates the National Historical Institute’s (NHI) own guidelines on monuments honoring national heroes, the agency has remained mum on the issue.

“Even the Japanese during their occupation did not touch the Monumento rotunda and now we are doing it. Why is the NHI acceding to what the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) want without so much as a public scrutiny?” said Rolando Ocampo, founder of the CCPC, in the interview.

The NHI guidelines on monuments honoring historical heroes provide that it must be treated as hallowed grounds and that any form of desecration against the monument – such as squatting, graffiti and improper advertising shall not be allowed.

It added that such monuments should maintain a “simple and unobstructed landscape development,” and that “commercial billboards should not proliferate in a town center where a dominant monument is situated.”

Ocampo rued the proliferation of huge commercial billboards at the juncture of Monumento and EDSA where the Bonifacio Monument stood.

The construction of the LRT-MRT Loop, which would connect LRT’s Baclaran station to the MRT’s North Avenue station, would further ruin the view to the monument and dwarf Andres Bonifacio’s dignified memorial, Ocampo said.

“This is a cultural holocaust of the Monumento. If they did something like this at the Luneta, people would have immediately complained. But why are they treating Bonifacio’s monument this way?” said Ocampo.

“The LRTA has a lot of explaining to do. The NHI should wake up and stand up for the protection of the Bonifacio Monument,” he added.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20090707-214322/LRT-loop-sullies-Bonifacio-shrine

what do you want to happen, have the LRT torn down?

skinheadz

July 9th, 2009, 06:56 AM

^^^ that's nonsense..
it's like primitive people's principles!

RonnieR

July 9th, 2009, 07:07 AM

Its about time someone complains of the dreaded disfiguration of the Bonifacio shrine. I really hope it somehow complements it rather than just making it look like a sideline memorial - EDSA shrine is okay because its meant to be on that area with those flyovers, but doing that for Bonifacio, well I think someone is going to stir in his grave

- Plmetzen

RESIDENTS COMPLAIN:
LRT loop sullies Bonifacio shrine

By Beverly T. Natividad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 17:23:00 07/07/2009

Filed Under: Railway, history

MANILA, Philippines — A group of Caloocan residents are questioning the ongoing construction of the Light Rail Transit (LRT) North Extension Project in Monumento for not specifically taking into consideration how it will affect the landscape of the Bonifacio Monument.

What is worse, according to the Caloocan City People’s Council (CCPC), is that while the impending infrastructure clearly violates the National Historical Institute’s (NHI) own guidelines on monuments honoring national heroes, the agency has remained mum on the issue.

“Even the Japanese during their occupation did not touch the Monumento rotunda and now we are doing it. Why is the NHI acceding to what the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) want without so much as a public scrutiny?” said Rolando Ocampo, founder of the CCPC, in the interview.

The NHI guidelines on monuments honoring historical heroes provide that it must be treated as hallowed grounds and that any form of desecration against the monument – such as squatting, graffiti and improper advertising shall not be allowed.

It added that such monuments should maintain a “simple and unobstructed landscape development,” and that “commercial billboards should not proliferate in a town center where a dominant monument is situated.”

Ocampo rued the proliferation of huge commercial billboards at the juncture of Monumento and EDSA where the Bonifacio Monument stood.

The construction of the LRT-MRT Loop, which would connect LRT’s Baclaran station to the MRT’s North Avenue station, would further ruin the view to the monument and dwarf Andres Bonifacio’s dignified memorial, Ocampo said.

“This is a cultural holocaust of the Monumento. If they did something like this at the Luneta, people would have immediately complained. But why are they treating Bonifacio’s monument this way?” said Ocampo.

“The LRTA has a lot of explaining to do. The NHI should wake up and stand up for the protection of the Bonifacio Monument,” he added.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20090707-214322/LRT-loop-sullies-Bonifacio-shrine

stupid article....this group should have complained that the surrounding area of billboards, dilapidated buildings violated the supposedly guidelines of NHI kuno long long time ago....
:bash:

Mithril Cloud

July 9th, 2009, 07:09 AM

Move the monument to BGC instead. Letting it stay there is already desecrating.

Planning Democracy

July 9th, 2009, 07:10 AM

How? I mean what is the route of this? Is this purely underground? Line 2 is the Aurora Blvd line dba?

Provision for a spur line pa lang, wala pang design yung connection, nakalagay dun "for future connection to LRT2". Pero ok rin kasi ibig sabihin may plano gawin yon after matapos yung MRT 7.

RonnieR

July 9th, 2009, 07:14 AM

Move the monument to BGC instead. Letting it stay there is already desecrating.

Better....what is Bonifacio Global City without Andres Bonifacio's monument? :)

edly

July 9th, 2009, 07:15 AM

what do you want to happen, have the LRT torn down?

It's too late for them to complain. Why bother the LRT? Better for them to focus on dismantling billboards surrounding Bonifacio Monument. It will help a lot in re-dignifying Ka-Andres.

Planning Democracy

July 9th, 2009, 07:19 AM

Its about time someone complains of the dreaded disfiguration of the Bonifacio shrine. I really hope it somehow complements it rather than just making it look like a sideline memorial - EDSA shrine is okay because its meant to be on that area with those flyovers, but doing that for Bonifacio, well I think someone is going to stir in his grave

- Plmetzen

RESIDENTS COMPLAIN:
LRT loop sullies Bonifacio shrine

By Beverly T. Natividad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 17:23:00 07/07/2009

Filed Under: Railway, history

MANILA, Philippines — A group of Caloocan residents are questioning the ongoing construction of the Light Rail Transit (LRT) North Extension Project in Monumento for not specifically taking into consideration how it will affect the landscape of the Bonifacio Monument.

What is worse, according to the Caloocan City People’s Council (CCPC), is that while the impending infrastructure clearly violates the National Historical Institute’s (NHI) own guidelines on monuments honoring national heroes, the agency has remained mum on the issue.

“Even the Japanese during their occupation did not touch the Monumento rotunda and now we are doing it. Why is the NHI acceding to what the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) want without so much as a public scrutiny?” said Rolando Ocampo, founder of the CCPC, in the interview.

The NHI guidelines on monuments honoring historical heroes provide that it must be treated as hallowed grounds and that any form of desecration against the monument – such as squatting, graffiti and improper advertising shall not be allowed.

It added that such monuments should maintain a “simple and unobstructed landscape development,” and that “commercial billboards should not proliferate in a town center where a dominant monument is situated.”

Ocampo rued the proliferation of huge commercial billboards at the juncture of Monumento and EDSA where the Bonifacio Monument stood.

The construction of the LRT-MRT Loop, which would connect LRT’s Baclaran station to the MRT’s North Avenue station, would further ruin the view to the monument and dwarf Andres Bonifacio’s dignified memorial, Ocampo said.

“This is a cultural holocaust of the Monumento. If they did something like this at the Luneta, people would have immediately complained. But why are they treating Bonifacio’s monument this way?” said Ocampo.

“The LRTA has a lot of explaining to do. The NHI should wake up and stand up for the protection of the Bonifacio Monument,” he added.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20090707-214322/LRT-loop-sullies-Bonifacio-shrine

As much as I hate to say this, pero may basis yung complaint nila, historical monument kasi yun e, although medyo double standard nga yung council kasi yung mga billboard di man lang nila sinita.

Akala ko ba may nagawa na sila na paraan para maayos yung problem na 'to? Anyway, hope they could fix this, I'm not sure about the legalities of having it transferred pero ok rin na idea yon para tapos ang problema, sad fact is di ata mashado vina-value ng mga Pinoy yung monument na yon.

evo_Sieg

July 9th, 2009, 08:35 AM

I reckon that the Ayala's wouldn't have to pay as much since the whole terminal complex would essentially be beside SM. Meaning all they have to do is to herd the pedestrians to walk through SM and go impulse buying/eating on their way to wherever, even to Trinoma. Perhaps the Ayalas would only need to provide the walkway in order for the passengers to have a means of going to Trinoma, in order to "lessen" the "hassle" of walking a kilometer or so to get to the North Ave station of MRT and maybe perhaps put some establishments along the way if possible.

Weird that SM seems to be paying P200 million for only the naming rights to the station, but all Ayala has to do is build a pedestrian walkway to their OWN mall to get their name on the station as well.

barrera_marquez

July 9th, 2009, 01:06 PM

Clearly the one who says that the Monumento circle is being vandalized because of this project is nonsense. Why bother? Hindi naman nila pinapakialaman yung monumento mismo e. Yung circumference ng circle lang.

Regarding General Malvar, the space reservation is still there. No other U-turns have this type of configuration and only Malvar is the only area in the construction which has that configuration. I don't know their plans there pero if I find time talaga I will contact Engineer Canar, wala lang kasing sumasagot e. But like SM and TriNoma, I think Caloocan should also shoulder a part of it. Ang laki na nga ng business tax sa lungsod na ito e.

ForwardTaguigCity

July 9th, 2009, 01:24 PM

Move the monument to BGC instead. Letting it stay there is already desecrating.

I Agree! Wasn't this the original plan for BGC, hence the circular roadwork? The innermost circle was supposed to be where the bonifacio monument is.

barrera_marquez

July 9th, 2009, 02:45 PM

I Agree! Wasn't this the original plan for BGC, hence the circular roadwork? The innermost circle was supposed to be where the bonifacio monument is.

Historical monuments cannot be moved according to the NHI.

At saka ayos nga yung may LRT sa Bonifacio Monument, to reflect the progress of the Philippines from the Philippine Revolution to the present day.

chocolato1000

July 9th, 2009, 03:53 PM

happosai

July 9th, 2009, 04:41 PM

It's too late for them to complain. Why bother the LRT? Better for them to focus on dismantling billboards surrounding Bonifacio Monument. It will help a lot in re-dignifying Ka-Andres.

^^ Panu kung mag file sila ng TRO? Naku baka ma delayed ang project. Wag naman sana.

Arciga_01

July 9th, 2009, 05:21 PM

Dyan ginanap ang himagsikan sa balintawak, IIRC.

stanleymalls

July 9th, 2009, 05:49 PM

Looking good na ang MRT-LRT Loop. :D

Sa wakas, meron na ring final na lugar kung saan yung GCT. SM North EDSA. :)

Sky Harbor

July 9th, 2009, 06:27 PM

gaano b ka-historic yung site na pinagtayuan ng monumento ni Gat Bonifacio? Because Luneta is where Rizal was executed, how about that site in Caloocan?...It would be better if the government builds a park where his monument be honored, he surely deserves more than a crappy intersection...besides, maraming lupain ang gobyerno.

The site in Monumento is reportedly where the first battle of the Philippine Revolution (the Battle of Pasong Tamo) took place. When the monument was built, it was built on open land.

Bonaparte

July 9th, 2009, 07:23 PM

baka pwede gawing Andres Bonifacio station name nung station para laging maaalala ng mga tao si ka andres.

in_a_rush

July 9th, 2009, 10:36 PM

I Agree! Wasn't this the original plan for BGC, hence the circular roadwork? The innermost circle was supposed to be where the bonifacio monument is.

tatawagin pa bang Monumento yung lugar na yun kapag tinanggal na yung monumento?:ohno:

daily commuter

July 10th, 2009, 03:27 AM

tatawagin pa bang Monumento yung lugar na yun kapag tinanggal na yung monumento?:ohno:

I agree.

Planning Democracy

July 10th, 2009, 05:40 AM

baka pwede gawing Andres Bonifacio station name nung station para laging maaalala ng mga tao si ka andres.

That's a good idea.

Jan ba sa exact place na yan naganap yung first battle? Maybe the NHI should look into their files so they can see how it was decided na dun yung Monument. Kung tancha lang nila na don, maybe they can move it and have Caloocan create a whole park in for the monument and to remember that battle. Pwede naman nila ma amend yung law e.

Manila-X

July 10th, 2009, 06:03 AM

RonnieR

July 10th, 2009, 09:24 AM

Manila-X

July 10th, 2009, 10:10 AM

how about the witdh of 3G and MRT 3 trains?

http://dotcmrt3.gov.ph/files/images/train%20no%20board.thumbnail.jpg

Train Specification

Max. no. of cars/ trainset - 4

Lenght of car - 30.3 m

Width of car - 2.5 m

Car useful floor area - 56.94 sq.m

Car occupancy:

No. of trains - 74

No. of standees - 320

Total no. of pax. - 394

source: DOTCMrt3 website (http://dotcmrt3.gov.ph/train_specification)

I'm sure the width of the LRT-1 trains is also the same. This is a bit wider than Paris' Metro stock (2.4 m), Berlin's small profile U-Bahns (2.3 m) and Madrid's narrow profile cars.

But neither of these lines were considered light rail but full metro systems. LRT-1 3G has a longer car config than some of Paris' metro cars but is considered by the authority as light rail while Paris' isn't. Plus the 3G trains aren't trams. Also, these type of trains, with a slight modification can run on LRT-1/MRT tracks.

I'm still wondering why The Philippine government planned light rail systems for Metro Manila, one of the largest cities in the world instead of an elevated full-metro system.

Look at what's happening with the MRT-3. At least this changed when LRT-2 was built.

RonnieR

July 10th, 2009, 11:13 AM

^^ thanks for the info

adgaps

July 10th, 2009, 11:26 AM

Sup guys! I was checking the stats on the LRT-2 train. LRT-2 cars are 3.2 metres wide making it a bit wider than Vancouver's Canada Line (3m) and Athen's Metro (2.8m).

I hope future metro systems in Manila such as MRT-7 will use these types of cars instead of those of LRT-1 or MRT.

^^ i like that idea too... :)

i hope they would make MRT7 cars as wide as those of LRT2... para malaki ang capacity, at hindi magmukhang sardina ang mga pasahero...

hindi gaya sa MRT3... :bash:

Manila-X

July 10th, 2009, 11:50 AM

^^ i like that idea too... :)

i hope they would make MRT7 cars as wide as those of LRT2... para malaki ang capacity, at hindi magmukhang sardina ang mga pasahero...

hindi gaya sa MRT3... :bash:

Hopefully future lines will implement the same system as LRT-2. LRT-2 is more of a full metro system than light-rail whether its elevated or not.

That's why they did in Madrid and Berlin. The earliest metro lines of both cities used narrow trains. The newer ones can run wider heavy-rail cars.

LRT-1 did a good move by running the 3G trains. Hopefully they will phase-out the 1 and 2Gs.

MRT is the perfect example of a "pwede na" system. If they have the will, they can upgrade.

As for MRT-7; the question is, is there a high volume of those living in the northeast areas commuting to the city centre?

adgaps

July 10th, 2009, 12:00 PM

But the question is, is there a high volume of those living in the northeast areas commuting to the city centre?

^^ hhmm... quite an interesting question...

i believe marami rin naman...

that part kasi is mostly residential...

sa North Caloocan, for example, pulos subdivisions dun... some of them have businesses in the central part of Metro Manila..

not to mention people who would be riding to Northern Metro manila, like those going to Fairview...

and, of course, SJDM's vision of a "Super City" that would be connected to Metro Manila via MRT7... that also counts...

Manila-X

July 10th, 2009, 12:05 PM

^^ hhmm... quite an interesting question...

i believe marami rin naman...

that part kasi is mostly residential...

sa North Caloocan, for example, pulos subdivisions dun... some of them have businesses in the central part of Metro Manila..

not to mention people who would be riding to Northern Metro manila, like those going to Fairview...

and, of course, SJDM's vision of a "Super City" that would be connected to Metro Manila via MRT7... that also counts...

The northeast section of Metro Manila is primarily residential followed by industrial. I did noticed hordes of buses traveling within Commonweath Ave. during my trip to Manila. This is where MRT-7 will run.

If the level of commuters in this part is high, then a full-metro system should be planned. If not, a 3 car heavy-rail metro can work just like BKK's BTS systems.

Planning Democracy

July 10th, 2009, 12:18 PM

^^

Yes there are a lot people living there, it's basically a suburb.

I'm sure there were traffic studies done before the proposal of the MRT 7, I just wish these studies were made public.

There are gonna be a lot of people using the MRT 7 with their end destination at the GCT, and then they are all be gonna transferring to the MRT 3 to go to Makati or Ortigas, MRT 3 won't be able to handle the crush of people. :nuts:

Manila-X

July 10th, 2009, 12:21 PM

RonnieR

July 10th, 2009, 12:23 PM

^^ yes, that area is heavily populated....moreso, it's adjacent to Bulacan.

Manila-X

July 10th, 2009, 12:28 PM

^^ yes, that area is heavily populated....moreso, it's adjacent to Bulacan.

And this part of Bulacan is not served by Northrail.

Bonaparte

July 10th, 2009, 01:24 PM

part of the MRT7 plan yata is to build a transportation hub or terminal sa bulacan(last station of MRT 7) which will be connected to NLEX. So yun mga buses galing probinsiya pwedeng hanggang dito na lang. Mababawasan yun volume ng mga buses na pumapasok sa metro manila, therefore less traffic. yun ang pagkakaintindi ko.:):)

please click the link below regarding connection of MRT station to NLEX.
http://www.ulc.com.ph/project.html

adgaps

July 10th, 2009, 02:17 PM

^^ at di ba kasama rin sa package ang development ng commercial and residential districts? so most likely ay malaki nga ang volume ng passengers ng MRT7...

at maganda rin ito para sa mga nasa north part ng Metro Manila... :cheers:

barrera_marquez

July 10th, 2009, 04:23 PM

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8679/1004232.th.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1004232.jpg)
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http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/2800/1004234.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1004234.jpg)

^^ Check out this images I took this morning in General Malvar, Caloocan City. Please see how a station can be built here. Thanks.

wheel of steel

July 10th, 2009, 06:06 PM

evilgenius15

July 10th, 2009, 06:10 PM

The northeast section of Metro Manila is primarily residential followed by industrial. I did noticed hordes of buses traveling within Commonweath Ave. during my trip to Manila. This is where MRT-7 will run.

If the level of commuters in this part is high, then a full-metro system should be planned. If not, a 3 car heavy-rail metro can work just like BKK's BTS systems.

^^

Yes there are a lot people living there, it's basically a suburb.

I'm sure there were traffic studies done before the proposal of the MRT 7, I just wish these studies were made public.

There are gonna be a lot of people using the MRT 7 with their end destination at the GCT, and then they are all be gonna transferring to the MRT 3 to go to Makati or Ortigas, MRT 3 won't be able to handle the crush of people. :nuts:

^^ yes, that area is heavily populated....moreso, it's adjacent to Bulacan.

hay... dapat ituloy talaga yung MRT7...
every morning very congested ang sm fairview dahil sa volume ng mga sasakyan
papuntang commonwealth, nagttraffic narin minsan sa commonwealth (kahit super lawak na), at sa sobrang dami ng mga taong nagccommute (like me... kaya nallate sa 7am class)
:ohno:

happosai

July 10th, 2009, 06:10 PM

Unless LRTA 100% owns MRT and installs 3G trains in there. It will help a bit.

BTW, can a 6 to 7 car config 3G train work for MRT?

^^ di na sya kakasya sa estasyon. Unless habaan ung platform

wheel of steel

July 10th, 2009, 06:14 PM

glenbsantos

July 10th, 2009, 08:31 PM

i hope the GCT will be soon operational.

glenbsantos

July 10th, 2009, 08:49 PM

Yeah it's good to hear that the progress of the LRT-MRT loop is being fast tracked. And in my opinion, the proposed location of the GCT in front of SM North annex (if i am not mistaken), is not quite good. I guess the space isn't enough for the integrated railway. As i've seen some sketches and updates here, it would be feasible for the GCT to be located of what Vice President Noli de Castro had suggested, (in NHA property), yet there are a lot of informal settlers in that vicinity, the government should take firm actions to clear the said area. I think if this happens, it will be a good help to our economy, business establishments boom, will give a greater convenience to the commuters, and wider and bigger Grand Central terminal might be constructed here.

adgaps

July 11th, 2009, 05:11 AM

i hope the GCT will be soon operational.

^^ because of some issues, na hopefully ay na-resolve na, the GCT will be operational by June 2010...

and it will be called the "SM-Trinoma" station... astig! :banana2:

RonnieR

July 11th, 2009, 06:12 AM

yhuanista07

July 11th, 2009, 07:26 AM

sana maluwag ung GCT kesa sa mga existing stations ng LRT at MRT...:nuts:

NicknameForLife

July 11th, 2009, 07:36 AM

^^ sapalagay ko po lluluwagan tlga po yan....
kasi MRT and LRT..... isama mo pa ang SM and Trinoma....
wa!!
dami tao niyan =)

pinkdoraemon

July 11th, 2009, 07:55 AM

glenbsantos

July 11th, 2009, 01:59 PM

sana maluwag ung GCT kesa sa mga existing stations ng LRT at MRT...:nuts:

They should make the Grand Central Terminal a lot wider and bigger than the regular stations kasi naman, the commuters coming from the MRT 3 line, LRT 1 line, as well as the proposed MRT 7 will integrate at the GCT. Syempre Most passengers will be getting in and off here. Ang hirap isipin kung masyadong masikip and crowded ang place, kawawa ang mga bata, pregnant women, and the elderly sa sikip, besides malaki rin ang chances na manakawan kapag crowded ang place.

glenbsantos

July 11th, 2009, 02:02 PM

At kapag crowded masyado ang GCT, mas mabilis din ang pagkalat ng sakit like the communicable diseases.

han742

July 11th, 2009, 02:43 PM

ionmarx

July 11th, 2009, 03:50 PM

They should make the Grand Central Terminal a lot wider and bigger than the regular stations kasi naman, the commuters coming from the MRT 3 line, LRT 1 line, as well as the proposed MRT 7 will integrate at the GCT. Syempre Most passengers will be getting in and off here. Ang hirap isipin kung masyadong masikip and crowded ang place, kawawa ang mga bata, pregnant women, and the elderly sa sikip, besides malaki rin ang chances na manakawan kapag crowded ang place.

Don't they DARE put vendors and food stalls in the GCT. :redx:

kaelthas18

July 11th, 2009, 04:25 PM

Move the monument to BGC instead. Letting it stay there is already desecrating.

oo nga ano.. sana magkaroon sa the fort ng monument ni Bonifacio in honor for its name Fort Bonifacio Global city =andres bonifacio...un ang kakulangan dun sa nagdevelop ng global city. they forgot our hero

kaelthas18

July 11th, 2009, 04:27 PM

Don't they DARE put vendors and food stalls in the GCT. :redx:

pustahan magkakaroon nyan.. syempre income yan, sino ba naman tao ang ayaw sa pera.. pera na magiging bato pa kung pagbabawalan mo dba?

kelan ba magiging LRTA ang magmamanage and operate ng MRT3

Sky Harbor

July 11th, 2009, 04:31 PM

^^ MRT-3 will be re-privitized, so I doubt that the LRTA will be running it, if ever.

Planning Democracy

July 11th, 2009, 04:51 PM

Don't they DARE put vendors and food stalls in the GCT. :redx:

They probably would, income din kasi yung rental from the stalls.

chris_nigel

July 11th, 2009, 04:53 PM

sana magiong malinis naman yung GCT wag maging katulad ng recto station nakaka diri pag gagi na madumi eh

ionmarx

July 11th, 2009, 05:19 PM

I happened to be in the Monumento area earlier, but was hitching a ride with a friend so these four are all I can share...

Below: Along Rizal Avenue traffic piles up when traveling towards Monumento because apparently, the diggings are reaching up to about half of the width of the northbound lane in Rizal Avenue.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/ronx13/Trains/LRT1%20Extension%2020090711/37fc24f6.jpg

The next two are a bit blurry (sorry)... But you can see from here that the foundations are already in place. The upper parts will follow very soon!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/ronx13/Trains/LRT1%20Extension%2020090711/8ae58e68.jpg

Behind this is the Mercury drug outlet...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/ronx13/Trains/LRT1%20Extension%2020090711/30135f09.jpg

Pylon 1 (from the main stretch of EDSA). I think. :lol: Up ahead is [Balintawak and] Mary's statue that has still not been transferred elsewhere.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/ronx13/Trains/LRT1%20Extension%2020090711/79130ae5.jpg

ionmarx

July 11th, 2009, 05:27 PM

pustahan magkakaroon nyan.. syempre income yan, sino ba naman tao ang ayaw sa pera.. pera na magiging bato pa kung pagbabawalan mo dba?

Naaalala ko palagi ang MRT Taft - LRT EDSA walkway dito eh. Dahil bawal na sa loob ng station ang food stalls, nagsilipatan sa walkway. Tuloy, kalahati na lang ng walkway ang pwedeng daanan ng tao. Lintek! Shempre may mga bibili pa so mas makipot lalo.

Similarly dapat sa GCT iallocate talaga ang space para sa daanan ng tao at hindi unahin ang revenue. Kalokohan.

kaelthas18

July 11th, 2009, 05:53 PM

Naaalala ko palagi ang MRT Taft - LRT EDSA walkway dito eh. Dahil bawal na sa loob ng station ang food stalls, nagsilipatan sa walkway. Tuloy, kalahati na lang ng walkway ang pwedeng daanan ng tao. Lintek! Shempre may mga bibili pa so mas makipot lalo.

Similarly dapat sa GCT iallocate talaga ang space para sa daanan ng tao at hindi unahin ang revenue. Kalokohan.

naku problema nga sa LRT2 recto yan eh...lageng bottleneck ang papasok at palabas ng station lalo na pag kalabas mo ng concourse going to the escalators,lrt1 or stairs, kasi ang daming naka abala na mga food stalls,ang sebo ng floors pag hapon, ang init pa coming from the stalls cooking .. mangangamoy kusina ka together with your sweat..haha... bkit kaya di nlng nila buksan ung other side..

stanleymalls

July 11th, 2009, 06:31 PM

As for MRT-7; the question is, is there a high volume of those living in the northeast areas commuting to the city centre?

Almost or merely half of the commuters along the Metro come from the North.

^^ hhmm... quite an interesting question...

i believe marami rin naman...

that part kasi is mostly residential...

sa North Caloocan, for example, pulos subdivisions dun... some of them have businesses in the central part of Metro Manila..

not to mention people who would be riding to Northern Metro manila, like those going to Fairview...

and, of course, SJDM's vision of a "Super City" that would be connected to Metro Manila via MRT7... that also counts...

Fairview has plans to become the Makati of the North but it didn't happen...

The northeast section of Metro Manila is primarily residential followed by industrial. I did noticed hordes of buses traveling within Commonweath Ave. during my trip to Manila. This is where MRT-7 will run.

If the level of commuters in this part is high, then a full-metro system should be planned. If not, a 3 car heavy-rail metro can work just like BKK's BTS systems.

We desperately need it due that we almost ahve to commute 1 hour when we can take it less than 30 mins. by MRT7.

^^
Yes there are a lot people living there, it's basically a suburb.

I'm sure there were traffic studies done before the proposal of the MRT 7, I just wish these studies were made public.

There are gonna be a lot of people using the MRT 7 with their end destination at the GCT, and then they are all be gonna transferring to the MRT 3 to go to Makati or Ortigas, MRT 3 won't be able to handle the crush of people. :nuts:

They should learn from all the mistakes of the past. So they should make this their best shot in making our light rail system a full metro system....

part of the MRT7 plan yata is to build a transportation hub or terminal sa bulacan(last station of MRT 7) which will be connected to NLEX. So yun mga buses galing probinsiya pwedeng hanggang dito na lang. Mababawasan yun volume ng mga buses na pumapasok sa metro manila, therefore less traffic. yun ang pagkakaintindi ko.:):)

please click the link below regarding connection of MRT station to NLEX.
http://www.ulc.com.ph/project.html

Maganda ngang observation yan.... :D :okay: :master: :bow:

^^ at di ba kasama rin sa package ang development ng commercial and residential districts? so most likely ay malaki nga ang volume ng passengers ng MRT7...

at maganda rin ito para sa mga nasa north part ng Metro Manila... :cheers:

Yep. So yung mga parang walang pakinabang or dilapidated places dito sa North e pwede nila pakinabangan.....

stanleymalls

July 11th, 2009, 06:41 PM

hay... dapat ituloy talaga yung MRT7...
every morning very congested ang sm fairview dahil sa volume ng mga sasakyan
papuntang commonwealth, nagttraffic narin minsan sa commonwealth (kahit super lawak na), at sa sobrang dami ng mga taong nagccommute (like me... kaya nallate sa 7am class)
:ohno:

Mas lalo na ang traffic ngayon sa Commonwealth Ave. Flyover at approaching Circle..... Leche!!! :mad:

Sana they prioritized the line that would run along España to replace the buses plying the Fairview - EDSA Taft route. Malaking tulong yun lalo na't bahain sa lugar na yan. Although I prefer that it would a full subway line para di dumilim. Yun nga lang problema nanaman ang baha at of course cost

Yun dapat ang gawin nila. Mahirap kapag stuck ka sa traffic lalo na sa España at Quezon Ave.... Especially pag Friday.... :mad:

Yung proposed MRT4 na ewan, hindi ko feel kung saan siya magsisimula.

Regarding sa full subway, alam naman natin na bahain ang España. At napakatindi ng traffic dito na galing pang Quezon Ave..

Dapat ni-reconsider talaga nila yung path na iikot or pass through Circle from Comm. Ave. to Quezon Ave.

They should make the Grand Central Terminal a lot wider and bigger than the regular stations kasi naman, the commuters coming from the MRT 3 line, LRT 1 line, as well as the proposed MRT 7 will integrate at the GCT. Syempre Most passengers will be getting in and off here. Ang hirap isipin kung masyadong masikip and crowded ang place, kawawa ang mga bata, pregnant women, and the elderly sa sikip, besides malaki rin ang chances na manakawan kapag crowded ang place.

Or these lines should share each other's tracks....

LRT1-MRT7
LRT1-MRT3
MRT3-MRT7
MRT3-LRT1
MRT7-LRT1
MRT7-MRT3

Para yung flow ng tao, deretso...

Pero dapt may timetable. :D Just my :2cents:.

AmbutLang

July 11th, 2009, 08:04 PM

Wala paba sa isip nga magpropose ang governing body sa transit system nga dagdagan ang mga cars at hahabaan ang mga station platforms sa lahat na line?:bash::bash::bash:

Masikip na ang NYC subway nga mayroon 20 different lines nga 8 cars trains at 9 million residents. Hanggang ngayon naghuhukay pa para sa bagong linya. Ang mga politician sa city sumasakay sa subway kahit may car service. Para wala masabi nga they do not care sa mga constituents.

Ang MM is about 15 million residents at 4 lines? hahay governo politics. :ohno:

Paano hindi kasi sumasakay ang mga senador at congressmen sa LRT at MRT.

TheAvenger

July 11th, 2009, 08:14 PM

Light Rail Transit 1 (LRT1) North Extension when completed, the P6.3-billion project will close the MRT 3-LRT loop on Edsa, between Monumento in Balintawak, Caloocan City, and North Avenue, Quezon City.

Photos of EDSA Balintawak and the LRT 1 Extension

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u157/jibrael_2007/jibrael_2009/1MRT.jpg

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Photos of EDSA and the LRT 1 Extension line under construction ath the vicinity of Clover Leaf Market.

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groundzero

July 11th, 2009, 09:38 PM

AmbutLang

July 12th, 2009, 01:29 AM

^^^^^^ MRT9?! yun na ba yung replacement for dead MRT4? WOW.. :D pero it will pass through West avenue and so on to the original plan of mrt4 towards espana, right? hmmm..

anyway, is the "Metrail" (type of monorail) better than our LRT?

IMO, no. Kapag mayroon emergency, saan ba lalakad ang mga pasahero sa monorail? Balancing act? :nuts: ok lang kapa kaunting pasahero, at maraming aerial ladders available sa mga fire stations.

happosai

July 12th, 2009, 02:31 AM

^^ sapalagay ko po lluluwagan tlga po yan....
kasi MRT and LRT..... isama mo pa ang SM and Trinoma....
wa!!
dami tao niyan =)

Isang potential target ng mga terorista yan. Sana maayos ang security dyan di yung patusok-tusok lang ng magic stick sa mga bags.

Mas maganda kung parang airport security ang gamitin. Yung may mga xray machines. Para wala nang pila.

Ang MM is about 15 million residents at 4 lines? hahay governo politics. :ohno:

Paano hindi kasi sumasakay ang mga senador at congressmen sa LRT at MRT.

All they think about is their pork barrel and how to win in the next election.:ohno:

Manila-X

July 12th, 2009, 06:50 AM

I prefer a 6-8 car heavy metro railways to be connected at MRT, LRT, Northrail and Southrail Lines in circular lines with at least one radial line directly linking central Manila.

A 4 heavy rail car config would be enough for Manila's metro sytem. 6-8 car config would be perfect if Metro Manila implements a subway system.

Manila-X

July 12th, 2009, 06:55 AM

^^^^^^ MRT9?! yun na ba yung replacement for dead MRT4? WOW.. :D pero it will pass through West avenue and so on to the original plan of mrt4 towards espana, right? hmmm..

anyway, is the "Metrail" (type of monorail) better than our LRT?

No! A heavy rail system would be better just like the LRT-2.

Monorails are better off circling Makati, Ortigas and Fort Bonifacio

Manila-X

July 12th, 2009, 06:59 AM

I prefer a 6-8 car heavy metro railways to be connected at MRT, LRT, Northrail and Southrail Lines in circular lines with at least one radial line directly linking central Manila.

Like the Yanamote Line. Anyway, here's a map of Metro Manila. The central part of the city are within and inside the boxes. LRT-1 and MRT is already acting like a radial line

http://sceniccities.web.infoseek.co.jp/asia/manila/images/maps2/mn_000.jpg

Manila-X

July 12th, 2009, 07:04 AM

They should learn from all the mistakes of the past. So they should make this their best shot in making our light rail system a full metro system....

LRT-1 and MRT can become a full metro system. Just change the cars.

The 3G trains of LRT-1 can be considered full-metro despite the width. I don't even consider it light-rail cause its not a tram.

BTW excuse my 4 posts. I like responding to threads :D

kaelthas18

July 12th, 2009, 07:26 AM

LRT-4, matagal nang lumabo ang proposal na iyan,

dis is dead.. :cheers:

hehe

kaelthas18

July 12th, 2009, 07:30 AM

Sana they prioritized the line that would run along España to replace the buses plying the Fairview - EDSA Taft route. Malaking tulong yun lalo na't bahain sa lugar na yan. Although I prefer that it would a full subway line para di dumilim. Yun nga lang problema nanaman ang baha at of course cost

Lrt 4 is dead.. back in 2004 or 2005 ata proposal yan, kaya lang ayaw ni atienza dati.. nagpprotesta sya.. malapit na approvahan ng NEDA yan dati, kaya lang ayaw ni atienza kasi ddilim daw sa Espana ,tpos sa Q. ave pputulin mga puno raw sa gitna..tsktsk.. nbasa ko yan sa newspaper dati,

yhuanista07

July 12th, 2009, 07:39 AM

kaelthas18

July 12th, 2009, 07:45 AM

anong silbi ng mga engineers nten??? makakagawa cla ng design along espanya w/o affecting those existing trees... anong silbi ng gobyerno... nakalagay sa batas na ndi n pwedeng umapila kung gusto bilhin ng gobyerno ang mga lupa... kaya yan... e kung monorail ilagay nlng dyan... ehehehe... :lol: uhhhmmm???

metro type train dapat,kasi super dami ang volume jan ng mga commuters, compare to LRT2 ,in my opinion mas madaming tao ang ggamit ng line kung meron MRT4.. look at Espana and Q.ave and LErma and commonwealth, may 8-12 lanes each pero nagttraffic pa din, wla ng mga stoplight ang iba dun ha..

AmbutLang

July 12th, 2009, 07:55 AM

happosai

July 12th, 2009, 08:39 AM

^^Mga botante kasi nya yung mga puno. kaya tignan mo DENR secretary na sya ngayon. :lol:

Planning Democracy

July 12th, 2009, 09:33 AM

Nakikita ko sa Times Square NYC inuorong ang 4 storey heritage theater 300 yard para makatayo ng skyscraper bakit hindi ang mga puno, para maka lagay nang mass transit train sa Espana. Poor reasoning si Atienza.:ohno: Kapag maprotesta siya biyan natin ng placard kasama nang banda. :nuts: :)

I don't know kung sino mas ogag, Lim or Atienza, pareho silang TRAPO.

Si Atienza may pina bulldozer na park dati sa Manila na full of TREES para gawan ng gov't bldg, tapos ngayon save the trees along quezon ave?? Halatang grand standing lang at pasikat ginagawa niya.

The old generation of "leaders" na kelangan nang mamatay. And then replace them with the new generation of artistas such as Vice-Mayor Isko Moreno, yikes! Jolog talaga bumoto mga pinoy. :lol:

yhuanista07

July 12th, 2009, 10:41 AM

^^Mga botante kasi nya yung mga puno. kaya tignan mo DENR secretary na sya ngayon. :lol:

suportado pa xa ng nuno sa punso... hehehee:lol:

TeslaCoil

July 12th, 2009, 10:45 AM

Nakikita ko sa Times Square NYC inuorong ang 4 storey heritage theater 300 yard para makatayo ng skyscraper bakit hindi ang mga puno, para maka lagay nang mass transit train sa Espana. Poor reasoning si Atienza.:ohno: Kapag maprotesta siya biyan natin ng placard kasama nang banda. :nuts: :)

Pwede naman ilipat ang mga puno just what BF did to the trees of Kalayaan.

Kailangan talaga ng ESPANA ng LRT kasi sobrang grabe ang traffic dyan, dagdagan mo pa ng mga raliyista sa rotunda. This is definitely one of the most busiest roads of this country. An LRT is very feasible.

yhuanista07

July 12th, 2009, 10:49 AM

igor09

July 12th, 2009, 11:01 AM

sana ung buendia ave malagyan ng subway hanggang BGC..:banana:

happosai

July 12th, 2009, 12:05 PM

pwede nmang irelocate ung puno dba... idagdag nlng nila sa mga punong nsa sidewalk... ung center nman pwede pang lagyan ng puno after contruction... taasan nila ung poste para ndi madilim... dba ung sa LRT-2 gnun ginwa nila?

sana magawa n un... laking ginhawa ever nyan... hahaha...

^^Baka daw magreklamo yung mga puno at mapapalayo daw sila sa work nila at mga anak nila ay mapapalayo sa school nila. :lol:

ionmarx

July 12th, 2009, 12:19 PM

^^ Scenario: Magwewelga ang mga puno at haharangan ang buong Quezon Avenue :lol:

yhuanista07

July 12th, 2009, 12:40 PM

^^ Scenario: Magwewelga ang mga puno at haharangan ang buong Quezon Avenue :lol:

hahampasin nman ng MMDA ung mga puno...

Sky Harbor

July 12th, 2009, 02:53 PM

We need to rectify a misconception here: Atienza supported MRT-4. He just wanted it placed underground instead of overground. Flooding will never be a good reason why trains, or anything for that matter, should not be placed underground.

ionmarx

July 12th, 2009, 03:10 PM

^^ Maybe because he never trusted anyone specialized enough on doing these kinds of underground stuff to do the project. Maybe he was traumatized with how the flooding (understatement?) of the Lagusnilad underpass directly in front of Manila City Hall. Not to mention the apparent appetite of politicos in getting "SOP" from several projects.

In any case it would have been really nice to go underground...

kaelthas18

July 13th, 2009, 01:33 AM

post ko lang ha:
http://www.mb.com.ph/node/154357

january 27,2004

Ride to progress
January 27, 2004, 8:00am

PHASE 1 of MRT 7, designed to reduce travel time for people in northern Manila, will be considered for final approval by the Cabinet Committee on Transportation and Communications on 28 January. Proponent LRT Corporation estimates that it will be operational by 2006, two years in the term of a new, or renewed, administration.

The Department of Transportation and Communications has also asked LRT Corporation to consider interconnecting to Line 2 to serve commuters on LRT 7 to Quiapo, the University Belt, and Divisoria, a logical move as Line 2 in Kalentong, Marikina, is much cheaper ($150 million) compared to the proposal of MRT 4 ($1 billion).

It will be recalled that Manila Mayor Lito Atienza and the City Council barred the construction of additional elevated mass transport systems in Manila, including MRT 4 because previous experience had shown that elevated rail systems on Taft Avenue and Rizal Avenue "severely affected the business climate in said areas, and has caused the decline of business opportunities along these major thoroughfares.’’

MRT 4 would not only have made traffic conditions worse along España and would also compete directly with MRT Line 2. As they say, that’s not the way to run a railroad. In Mayor Atienza’s view, "it would hamper the continued success of our Buhayin ang Maynila program.’’

On the other hand, MRT 7 will service the two million commuters in Bulacan and central Quezon City and nearby provinces. It will run from Tala, Caloocan-North to MRT 2 and 3 through the Novaliches and Fairview route, connecting by road to North Luzon Expressway

If things go as planned – apparently there’s no reason whey they shouldn’t – Universal LRT Corporation should be able to complete the MRT-LRT loop in Metro Manila, which includes the 5.2 kilometer Line 3 from Monumento to Caloocan City and SM City Edsa.

Stitching the major arteries of the metropolis should beckon big local and foreign investors looking for long-term ventures, as MRT 7 will open satellite cities for business and residential expansion.

Anung alam nya sa Urban pLanning? kahit kumuha sya ng architecture d pa din sya marunong.. tska iba pa din ang LRT2 sa Line 4 kahit parallel sila.. pag dating ng lacson ave cor espana. ang layo na ng ramon magsaysay sa pagiging parallel nila..

kaelthas18

July 13th, 2009, 01:47 AM

sa LRT 1 may mga ganitong drawings sa 1g trains.. informative kaya lang blur pagkakkuha ko

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/caricature.jpg

talaga bang wala na sila plano ayusin mga hole sa skylighted roof nila? ang pangit kasi pag malakas ang ulan..parang waterfalls eh

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/roofhole1.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/roofhole2.jpg

Sky Harbor

July 13th, 2009, 05:05 AM

Anung alam nya sa Urban pLanning? kahit kumuha sya ng architecture d pa din sya marunong.. tska iba pa din ang LRT2 sa Line 4 kahit parallel sila.. pag dating ng lacson ave cor espana. ang layo na ng ramon magsaysay sa pagiging parallel nila..

The key word in the article is elevated. Had MRT-4 been a subway, I'd bet he and the Manila City Council won't mind.

AmbutLang

July 13th, 2009, 05:36 AM

Nothing is impossible if Espana will be underground subway line. It is the political will and the government is also willing to shoulder the cost to construct which will be at least twice the amount for a subway system than structure type. Then there is the continuous running of tunnel lighting and water pumps strategically located for the tunnel leaks and water main breaks or excessive rain overrun. Hopefully one or the other will a mass transit be constructed.

Espana was a congested Avenue wayback in the early 70's. :ohno: and EDSA was then 30 minutes ride from Cubao to Baclaran. :)

nayki

July 13th, 2009, 06:15 AM

Manila-X

July 13th, 2009, 07:22 AM

TeslaCoil

July 13th, 2009, 07:34 AM

^^ If New York can do it so do we;)

Manila-X

July 13th, 2009, 08:50 AM

^^ If New York can do it so do we;)

How about Mexico City. There were able to build an underground metro in a major seismic zone plus soft foundation of land. Note Mexico City used to be a giant lake.

mwg12a

July 13th, 2009, 01:36 PM

^^ If New York can do it so do we;)

New York and Spain are well develped countries, they have the means and capabilities to do it. The Philippines? It's questionable... Wanch is kind of correct with his assessment. It depends on the foundation. Manila has soft areas.. We also have to consider these plus the fact that Manila or the Philippines is also under the pacific ring of fire, Just like Japan, this is probably why there is not much subway rail in the country, it's all above just like LRT/MRT.

Arciga_01

July 13th, 2009, 03:42 PM

Tokyo, Japan have a subway system. So pwede rin ang subways sa metro manila..

JulZ

July 13th, 2009, 03:45 PM

barrera_marquez

July 13th, 2009, 04:05 PM

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/nayki_22/mix/07122009875.jpg?t=1247454666

Bakit kaya walang Bagong Barrio Station? Dahil kaya di pa naaprove iyong station noong time na nilabas iyong mga cards?

Because by the time those cards were manufactured in April, it was not yet approved but the issue was really hot by that time that they left a gap there. May lang siya na-approve. Kaya lang, still no indication of a station construction here in Bagong Barrio. Ganoon ba talaga katagal ang release of funds?

TeslaCoil

July 13th, 2009, 05:01 PM

How about Mexico City. There were able to build an underground metro in a major seismic zone plus soft foundation of land. Note Mexico City used to be a giant lake.

New York and Spain are well develped countries, they have the means and capabilities to do it. The Philippines? It's questionable... Wanch is kind of correct with his assessment. It depends on the foundation. Manila has soft areas.. We also have to consider these plus the fact that Manila or the Philippines is also under the pacific ring of fire, Just like Japan, this is probably why there is not much subway rail in the country, it's all above just like LRT/MRT.

We always hire foreign consultants and contractors so I don't think it will actually be a problem if we are poor. The only problem is funding. Engineering is to solve problem so there it is...

AmbutLang

July 13th, 2009, 05:25 PM

talaga bang wala na sila plano ayusin mga hole sa skylighted roof nila? ang pangit kasi pag malakas ang ulan..parang waterfalls eh

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/roofhole1.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/roofhole2.jpg

Hindi naman mahal ang translucent roof. Wala ba sila in house infrastructure department which consisted of plumbers, carpenters, masons, welders, electricians and other supporting departments. Anything that inconvenient the public should be taken care of first. :bash:

For the time being, air flow by heat exchange. Hot air goes up cool air rush in. :)

But to have an underground also depends on the foundation. Some areas in Metro Manila have a soft base.

Brooklyn side of NYC subway is a almost like a huge sand bar, run underground about 5 miles long then it goes to the surface.
One line that goes to Flatbush has to end the line because they hit a water vein. The subway track are floating tracks because of the water flow.:)

pinkdoraemon

July 13th, 2009, 06:02 PM

Sky Harbor

July 13th, 2009, 06:52 PM

^^ Because at the time MRT-3 was built, the land that we now know as Bay City was still a giant mound of dirt or even a giant patch of sea.

FlashCollider

July 14th, 2009, 12:31 AM

There alot of things that they have to improve. Kung pwede lang irebuild yang buong MRT line para magkamuka na sila ng LRT extension tapos iextend hanggang MOA. I dunno why they didnt bring the MRT all the way to MOA e business district yun. Tapos interchange sana sa airport monorail.

I guess it is more feasible now to extend it towards MOA and the government won't have any difficulties since they have a majority share of mrt3.

happosai

July 14th, 2009, 12:41 AM

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/kaelthas18/roofhole2.jpg

Saang station yan? Maayos pa yan compared sa bubong ng Buendia station. Sayang di ko nakuhanan kahapon ng umaga. Ang lakas ng agos ng tubig. Pati sa PA system nila tumutulay ang tubig. :ohno:

Manila-X

July 14th, 2009, 04:25 AM

We always hire foreign consultants and contractors so I don't think it will actually be a problem if we are poor. The only problem is funding. Engineering is to solve problem so there it is...

But the thing is, The Philippines isn't poor. The country can afford to built light and full metro systems like LRT-MRT for example.

Manila-X

July 14th, 2009, 04:27 AM

New York and Spain are well develped countries, they have the means and capabilities to do it. The Philippines? It's questionable... Wanch is kind of correct with his assessment. It depends on the foundation. Manila has soft areas.. We also have to consider these plus the fact that Manila or the Philippines is also under the pacific ring of fire, Just like Japan, this is probably why there is not much subway rail in the country, it's all above just like LRT/MRT.

Alot of countries within The Pacific Ring of Fire that have extensive subway systems. Japan, Taiwan and California have metro networks. San Francisco has an underground rapid transit system is its more earthquake prone than Manila. Mexico City also has the same problem plus it has a soft foundation and unstable soil but they have one the most extensive subway networks in Latin America. The way to do it, they use rubber tired trains.

As for Tokyo, it has an extensive subway network, the busiest in fact!

Manila-X

July 14th, 2009, 04:33 AM

Except from The Mexico City Metro

1985 earthquake
On the morning of September 19, 1985, at almost the end of third stage, an earthquake struck Mexico City at 7:19 am (local hour), with a magnitude of 8.1 on Richter Scale. The earthquake caused several buildings such as old houses and hotels and even a Televisa television office to collapse. Many buildings as well as streets were left with major damage making the transportation on the ground difficult, but the metro was not damaged because rectangular structure was used instead of arches, making it resistant to earthquakes thus giving the people a safe means of transportation in a time of crisis.

Arciga_01

July 14th, 2009, 06:27 AM

Yan ang proof na pwedeng pwede ang subway sa metro manila.

Askal82

July 14th, 2009, 06:31 AM

^^ Tokyo as well lies within Ring of Fire. Kailangan lang talaga pera.

mach_5

July 14th, 2009, 06:54 AM

^^ Tokyo as well lies within Ring of Fire. Kailangan lang talaga pera.

And it is one of the largest subway system in the world.

Arciga_01

July 14th, 2009, 06:58 AM

^^ Tokyo as well lies within Ring of Fire. Kailangan lang talaga pera.

most importantly, kailangan walang tongpats at red tape :bash:

RonnieR

July 14th, 2009, 07:05 AM

Alot of countries within The Pacific Ring of Fire that have extensive subway systems. Japan, Taiwan and California have metro networks. San Francisco has an underground rapid transit system is its more earthquake prone than Manila. Mexico City also has the same problem plus it has a soft foundation and unstable soil but they have one the most extensive subway networks in Latin America. The way to do it, they use rubber tired trains.

As for Tokyo, it has an extensive subway network, the busiest in fact!

Yes, Tokyo has an extensive subway system

Manila-X

July 14th, 2009, 08:14 AM

And it is one of the largest subway system in the world.

Its large because its the world's largest city with millions of commuters.

As for Metro Manila, if an underground metro line is planned, it has to travel to key areas. One example would be Makati CBD. Subway stations would be placed within the intersections of Ayala Ave. and Paseo De Roxas. There are already underpasses there and it would double as a subway station if planned.

anonymous_filipino

July 14th, 2009, 09:15 AM

I remember watching Ernie Baron's Knowledge Power a few years ago. It featured the Manila Monorail concept, which was the basis of LRT 1. It will ran on the same alignment of LRT 1 if it was pursued. Then while I was reading LRT's article in wikipedia, it was mentioned there a study conducted by an American architectural firm, funded by the World Bank, suggested the revival of the tranvias. But DOTC revised those recommendations and called for an elevated light rail system, because of the numerous intersections of Avenida Rizal and Taft Avenue. Had the DOTC were in their right minds during that time, we will now have an extensive subway system with full metro trains, with no problems in transferring between two lines.

arquitekto

July 14th, 2009, 09:37 AM

:nuts::nuts:sna magkroon ng new proposal ang lrt or mrt connecting all major malls in the metro by a separate line..hehe MRT 10!!..
..
.."sm fairview, sm north - trinoma, araneta center, sm megamall, sm manila, glorietta, sm mall of asia...""...hahaha
..
pwede ba un??
..kahit skyway lang sana..haha..para madali nang puntahan lhat ng malls..lol
:cheers::cheers::cheers:

arquitekto

July 14th, 2009, 09:37 AM

sna magkroon ng new proposal ang lrt or mrt connecting all major malls in the metro by a separate line..hehe MRT 10!!..
..
.."sm fairview, sm north - trinoma, araneta center, sm megamall, sm manila, glorietta, sm mall of asia...""...hahaha
..
pwede ba un??
..kahit skyway lang sana..haha..para madali nang puntahan lhat ng malls..lol

pinkdoraemon

July 14th, 2009, 10:28 AM

^^ Because at the time MRT-3 was built, the land that we now know as Bay City was still a giant mound of dirt or even a giant patch of sea.

Yes but its future development should have been anticipated. Now it would take alot effort to extend it to MOA because the LRT 1 is blocking its path.

Manila-X

July 14th, 2009, 10:34 AM

Yes but its future development should have been anticipated. Now it would take alot effort to extend it to MOA because the LRT 1 is blocking its path.

Either extend it higher or underground. Its what they did with LRT-2 over the MRT @ edsa.

Manila-X

July 14th, 2009, 10:45 AM

jcombalicer

July 14th, 2009, 11:07 AM

Cases Of How Tearing Down A Highway Can Relieve Traffic Jams (And Save Your City)

http://www.infrastructurist.com/2009/07/06/huh-4-cases-of-how-tearing-down-a-highway-can-relieve-traffic-jams-and-help-save-a-city/

jcombalicer

July 14th, 2009, 11:36 AM

Planning Democracy

July 14th, 2009, 12:22 PM

MRT-7 will be using Third Rail, any other advantages aside from costs and aesthetics?

ionmarx

July 14th, 2009, 12:43 PM

^^ San galing yang balitang yan?? Stiiiiig :)

Sky Harbor

July 14th, 2009, 01:48 PM

Yes but its future development should have been anticipated. Now it would take alot effort to extend it to MOA because the LRT 1 is blocking its path.

What future development? Nothing existed on that patch of dirt that we now call Bay City at the time. We can't presume the government's omniscience here: I don't think they foresaw SM opening MoA, right? Had they built it properly though, MRT-3 can be expanded easily to meet future demand.

But no, we have to deal with what we have. :ohno:

boroyski

July 14th, 2009, 01:52 PM

MRT-7 will be using Third Rail, any other advantages aside from costs and aesthetics?

Mawawala ung mga overhead power lines na parang sampayan, mas malinis tingnan. Gaya nito:

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/68/80/29660886/1_458361116l.jpg

ionmarx

July 14th, 2009, 02:04 PM

^^ Anyway, what would be the impact of closing Taft Avenue permanently? Since there's no other way to extend MRT3 but by extending it at-grade, only way for vehicles to traverse Taft would be by creating underpass...

ionmarx

July 14th, 2009, 02:05 PM

Mawawala ung mga overhead power lines na parang sampayan, mas malinis tingnan. Gaya nito:

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/68/80/29660886/1_458361116l.jpg

Pero pag may suicidal na tumalon sa riles, dedz agad d b?

Sky Harbor

July 14th, 2009, 02:28 PM

^^ That's the case even with current trains. That's why if you push someone onto the tracks (or maybe if you land on them), you have to pay a P50,000 fine.

adgaps

July 14th, 2009, 04:58 PM

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/68/80/29660886/1_458361116l.jpg

^^ LRT2 yan di ba?

third rail poh ba yan?

Sky Harbor

July 14th, 2009, 05:03 PM

^^ Nope. MRT-2 trains run on overhead wires, so you'll see those wires too at the stations. Third rail does not require those wires, so it looks much cleaner.

Mithril Cloud

July 14th, 2009, 05:04 PM

The one in the photo is not MRT-2. It's the BTS Skytrain in Thailand.

Jesrelle

July 14th, 2009, 07:07 PM

Is that really BTS Sky Way in Thailand? Para kasi syang LRT2.

Our Government can actually build infrastructures here in the PH. Basta walang "kurakot" system... But since, corruption is at large, we cannot expect for more "wow" infrastructures right?

Mithril Cloud

July 14th, 2009, 07:11 PM

glenbsantos

July 14th, 2009, 07:21 PM

I guess it is more feasible now to extend it towards MOA and the government won't have any difficulties since they have a majority share of mrt3.

I definitely agree. The government should now do something to extend the MRT3 up to the Mall of Asia. It is feasible and many would benefit from that project. It is also convenient for the commuters who wish to go to the mall of Asia and will boost the business industries in the area. They should also build a monorail train which is connected to the MRT 3 linking to the Airport.

boroyski

July 14th, 2009, 07:26 PM

Siguro kung iextend hanggang MOA, dapat subway na sya.

Arciga_01

July 14th, 2009, 08:26 PM

Old new york rail track turn in to park

http://www.treehugger.com/galleries/2009/06/check-out-the-high-line-manhattans-newest-park.php

sana ganito din gawin nila sa line ng LRT pag luma na. oopss pag luma na... no offense meant dun sa high line lrt loving people. mas gusto ko pa rin gawin nilang subway or brt na lang. may detrimental effect kasi yung elevated transpo eh.

.

Reminds me of PNR northrail when it was abandoned. Kaso, Northrail went into a different direction and it was a really sad one. :ohno:

It's also kinda weird, while Manila is still building poorly planned LRT/MRT systems. New York already abandoned a few lines already and turned it into a park.

FlashCollider

July 15th, 2009, 12:53 AM

Tokyo, Japan have a subway system. So pwede rin ang subways sa metro manila..

It's not a question of having the possibility of subway system in the Philippines it's a question of funds. Subway system is very expensive and Japan can afford it, we can't as of the moment.

in_a_rush

July 15th, 2009, 01:19 AM

sana nga iisa na lang yung ticket for all the trains, LRT, LRT2 , MRT at itong PNR. kapag bumili ka ng isang ticket pwede mo gamitin sa kahit anong train. tapos dapat standard na lang yung price regardless sa distance. tumatagal din kasi minsan yung oras sa suklian eh at sa pagbibilang ng barya. maybe sa 15 pesos na standard rate wala ng aangal. :):cheers:

AmbutLang

July 15th, 2009, 02:01 AM

Yes it is. The roof structure is totally different from the MRT-2.

And here's a photo of a typical BTS Skytrain station taken from Wikipedia for reference:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Bangkok_Skytrain_01.jpg/640px-Bangkok_Skytrain_01.jpg

Their 3rd rails still not safe for employees because it has no protection boards.

NYC Transit had different kind of cards but works one purpose. Its good for bus and transfer to the subway or vise versa with the same card. Regardless of distance. :)
1 - ride card $2 bus & subway
1 - day card $5 bus & subway can be swipe every 15 minutes for 24 hours.
1 week good for 7 days combination what ever you like every 15 minutes.
1 month card the cheapest, better than 4 weekly good, for 30 or 31 days except February leap year lugi ka. :)

Manila-X

July 15th, 2009, 04:40 AM

Pero pag may suicidal na tumalon sa riles, dedz agad d b?

That's why we have such thing as platform screen doors
http://mtr.com.hk/eng/sustainability/sustainrpt/2005rpt/img/psd.jpg

Manila-X

July 15th, 2009, 04:41 AM

Mawawala ung mga overhead power lines na parang sampayan, mas malinis tingnan. Gaya nito:

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/68/80/29660886/1_458361116l.jpg

The MTR uses overhead wires and it still looks nice

happosai

July 15th, 2009, 04:50 AM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/LRT_Updates/SVCard.jpg

RonnieR

July 15th, 2009, 05:01 AM

^^ nice

daily commuter

July 15th, 2009, 06:38 AM

Happy Happs, dadami ba ang switches sa Monumento para sa skip train mo?

adgaps

July 15th, 2009, 06:47 AM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/LRT_Updates/SVCard.jpg

^^

1. "This SV Card is honored at LRT Line 1 and MRT Line 2"
- MRT Line 2... MRT nga talaga yun noh...
and oh, pwede syang gamitin in both lines... good to hear that... :cheers:

2. may gap talaga bet. Monumento and Balintawak... although mas halata yung gap dun sa single journey tickets...

hhmm... makabili na nga bukas ng SV ticket... :)

btw, napadaan ako sa Monumento kahapon...

may isang hindi pa nasementuhang post dun(sorry, don't know the right term for that thing) na nakaharap sa end of line ng LRT1...

happosai

July 15th, 2009, 06:49 AM

^^
may isang hindi pa nasementuhang post dun(sorry, don't know the right term for that thing) na nakaharap sa end of line ng LRT1...

^^Baka di pa tapos yung paglalagay ng mga steel bars doon.

cald

July 15th, 2009, 07:06 AM

any update for LRT2Ext. from Santolan, Pasig to Masinag, Antipolo? Thanks!

adgaps

July 15th, 2009, 07:09 AM

^^Baka di pa tapos yung paglalagay ng mga steel bars doon.

^^ oh? steel bars ba tawag dun?

uhm, yeah, mukhang hindi pa nga sya tapos... at iisa pa lang syang ganun ang orientation...

pero i observed na meron nang isang nahukay na part dun sa sidewalk na nilalagyan na rin ng steel bars...

EDIT: i'll try to take some pics this week...

happosai

July 15th, 2009, 07:12 AM

^^Rebar pala construction name nun.. hehehe...

adgaps

July 15th, 2009, 07:15 AM

^^Rebar pala construction name nun.. hehehe...

^^ ah, ok... thanks for the info! :)

Manila-X

July 15th, 2009, 07:17 AM

any update for LRT2Ext. from Santolan, Pasig to Masinag, Antipolo? Thanks!

Looks like there are no plans for the time being. But hopefully; it will decongest the Sta. Lucia area. Alot of commuters there because the malls.

Mithril Cloud

July 15th, 2009, 07:24 AM

^^

1. "This SV Card is honored at LRT Line 1 and MRT Line 2"
- MRT Line 2... MRT nga talaga yun noh...
and oh, pwede syang gamitin in both lines... good to hear that... :cheers:

Line 2 is officially called MRT-2. Let's try to use the proper name from now on. :)

Manila-X

July 15th, 2009, 07:25 AM

Line 2 is officially called MRT-2. Let's try to use the proper name from now on. :)

I agree with this one. And MRT-3 should be called LRT-3 since its lightrail

Planning Democracy

July 15th, 2009, 08:44 AM

Looks like there are no plans for the time being. But hopefully; it will decongest the Sta. Lucia area. Alot of commuters there because the malls.

It's the jeeps that are causing the traffic and the "pasaway" passengers.

In the Santolan station, the passengers are willing to walk far from the station in order to catch the jeep early, especially when it's raining. So they eat up around 2 or 3 lanes causing a bottleneck.

And then when you get to Sta Lucia, the corner of Imelda ave and Marcos Highway is a de facto jeepney terminal, thus, causing everybody a lot of grief again with the traffic.

The extension would do everybody a lot of good, especially if it reaches Cogeo. Passengers can go directly down there and have a shorter trip going to their suburban homes.

We want the extension NOW. :)

mach_5

July 15th, 2009, 08:48 AM

Since MRT-Line 7 plans already unveiled. Is there any update on MRT-4, MRT-5, and MRT,6?

I think the previous proposed network maps are inaccurate and obsolete.

adgaps

July 15th, 2009, 09:50 AM

shyaman

July 15th, 2009, 12:11 PM

^^Rebar pala construction name nun.. hehehe...

Rebar is short for reinforcing steel bars...

TheAvenger

July 15th, 2009, 01:31 PM

any update for LRT2Ext. from Santolan, Pasig to Masinag, Antipolo? Thanks!

I did not know that LRT/MRT 2 is already extended to Antipolo. Next week I will go to Manila to check this.

meantime pls see some photos of MRT 2 in my blog :

http://jibrael.blogspot.com/2008/09/mrt-line-2-system-purple-line.html

Planning Democracy

July 15th, 2009, 01:33 PM

I did not know that LRT 2 is already extended to Antipolo. Next week I will go to Manila to check this.

Hindi pa, future plans pa lang yon, pero baka 3 or 5 years from now pa yan.

Mithril Cloud

July 15th, 2009, 05:51 PM

Look what's new in Monumento:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/monumento_scanner.jpg
Photo by Austell Tumampos, RIHSPI

tatlonghariken

July 15th, 2009, 05:52 PM

^^that's my shot by the way...too lazy to post... will try to get a better shot next time..

anyway...as you can not clearly see, the LRT actually bought x-ray scanners.... Luxury aside, it does improve the flow of traffic.

in_a_rush

July 15th, 2009, 08:10 PM

nasa abante-tonite yung picture na may bagong scanner na ang LRT monumento station. Sana lahat ng station lagyan niyan para mas mabilis ang daloy ng pASahero at iwas terorista na din.

http://abante.com.ph/issue/july1609/default.htm

TheAvenger

July 16th, 2009, 03:04 AM

Photos of EDSA Balintawak and the LRT 1 Extension (under construction) which is to connect with MRT 3 at the future Grand Station near SM North Mall / Trinoma Mall Area.[/color][/b]

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/1MRT.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7328.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7329.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7330.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7335.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7332.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/2MRT.jpg

cool_blue

July 16th, 2009, 03:09 AM

Since MRT-Line 7 plans already unveiled. Is there any update on MRT-4, MRT-5, and MRT,6?

I think the previous proposed network maps are inaccurate and obsolete.

^^ that one that was (and still is) in wikipedia is outdated...

hindi na rin yun masusunod...

FYI: mas na-prioritize ang LRT - MRT Connection kaysa sa LRT 6 (a.k.a. LRT Line 1 South Extension Since 1996). kita mo, mga atat na atat matapos... :bash:

TheAvenger

July 16th, 2009, 03:17 AM

Look what's new in Monumento:

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/monumento_scanner.jpg
Photo by Austell Tumampos, RIHSPI

I have seen that yesterday...... will take a close shot when I passed by Monumento LRT later.

TheAvenger

July 16th, 2009, 03:20 AM

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7456-1.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7458-1.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7457-1.jpg

TheAvenger

July 16th, 2009, 03:22 AM

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7461-1.jpg

kaelthas18

July 16th, 2009, 04:12 AM

sa LRT 2 recto kanina mukang sira ung rail switch na automatic sa dulo.. minamanual ng mga engineers knna ung rail switch..

boroyski

July 16th, 2009, 04:36 AM

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7461-1.jpg

Ano yung malaking hukay sa gilid ? Foundation ba yan?

TheAvenger

July 16th, 2009, 08:14 AM

Ano yung malaking hukay sa gilid ? Foundation ba yan?

yes, maybe foundation for LRT Clover Leaf Station.

adgaps

July 16th, 2009, 11:05 AM

yes, maybe foundation for LRT Clover Leaf Station.

^^ what cloverleaf station? i didn't get it... :nuts:

please explain it to me...

Mithril Cloud

July 16th, 2009, 11:18 AM

Balintawak probably.

boroyski

July 16th, 2009, 11:24 AM

yes, maybe foundation for LRT Clover Leaf Station.

Meron ba nyan? :nuts: Nalito ako doon ah.

bustero

July 16th, 2009, 01:09 PM

Trains are best place for ads’ Print E-mail
Written by Jesus F. Llanto
Wednesday, 08 July 2009
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Study says 73% of Metro Manilans take the MRT and LRT

Advertisers of products and services, advocacies, and even candidacies in Metro Manila should look into the potential of transit ads, particularly those placed on train cars, to reach more people.

A study on the travel habits of Metro Manilans, conducted recently by media research firm Nielsen, showed that 73 percent of residents of the national capital region have travelled using the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) and Light Rail Transit (LRT) systems in the past months.

The “MRT LRT Travel Habits” study also showed that more than half (52 percent) of Metro Manila residents above 15 years old or 4.2 million Filipinos are mobile or are out of their homes for most of the time.

This made advertising specialists suggest that companies, advocacy groups, and maybe potential candidates in the 2010 elections, consider outdoor media over traditional media.
Non-Traditional Channels

“If you have a message to send, you won’t reach them (market) through traditional media channels because they are outside their home,” Nielsen executive director Jay Bautista said Wednesday during the presentation of the study’s results in Makati City.

The survey interviewed 1,000 train riders—500 from the MRT, 250 from LRT-1, and 250 from LRT-2—in February 2009. It has a margin of error of 5 percent. Respondents were chosen using random sampling.

Bing Kimpo, vice president for communications and special projects of Trackworks, the marketing arm of MRT, said the phenomenon that more Filipinos are spending most of their time outside their home paved the way for the development of out-of-home advertisements.

Kimpo said advertisements seen on train stations, ticket windows, inside trains and train wraps are noticeable by commuter. “These are places where advertisers and buyers meet.”

He said the culture brought by the boom in business process outsourcing also made more Filipinos mobile. “We have a more mobile lifestyle right now.”
Increasing Exposure

The study noted the respondents’ exposure to out-of-home media grew from 62 percent 2004 to 68 percent in 2009.

Exposure to the Internet grew from 18 to 32 percent during the same period, while exposure to television increased from 93 to 96 percent.

Exposure to cinema declined from 36 to 25 percent while exposure to newspaper fell from 47 percent to 25 percent.

Despite the increased mobility of Filipinos, advertisers’ spending on out-of-home media or outdoor ads remained low compared to traditional forms of media.

According to the 2008 Philippine Media Spend Landscape, out-of-home ads account for a meager 2 percent of advertising expenditures. TV accounts for 73 percent, while radio and print account for 18 percent and 7 percent, respectively.
For Politicians, Too

When asked whether out-of-home advertisements can be used by politicians to reach voters, Kimpo said so far this is no legal impediment to using this media to advertise or promote their advocacies.

“There is no law that prohibits politicians from using out-of-home advertisements,” Kimpo said. “When the campaign season starts, we will follow the guidelines set by the Commission on Elections.”

However, he said, “there are no attempts at this point” by politicians to approach them for possible ad placements on the MRT.

Nielsen’s Bautista said that politicians will soon use outdoor advertisements in their campaigns. “They will explore that because they will be reaching the voting population.”
Riders’ Profile

The study revealed that the MRT—which plies EDSA from Taft Avenue in Pasay City to North Avenue in Quezon City—caters more to the 25-49-year-old riders.

“It’s a cross section of Metro Manila consumers,” Bautista said, referring to white collar and blue collar workers.

The two LRT lines, the study showed, are skewed toward the younger age group. Around 30 percent of the commuters using LRT-1—which plies from Baclaran in Parañaque City to Monumento in Caloocan City—are students.

Students comprise 42 percent of the riders of LRT-2, which plies from Santolan in Pasig City to Claro M. Recto Avenue in Manila. The study noted that almost 1 in 10 LRT-2 riders (9 percent) is a small-scale entrepreneur.

“These are entrepreneurs who travel from Marikina and Quezon City all the way to Recto,” Bautista explained. Recto is the drop-off point for small-scale businessmen who go to Manila’s bargain center, Divisoria.

The study revealed that trains influenced the lifestyle of riders. Since some of these trains’ stations are connected to shopping malls, riders are more likely to go to these malls, with most of them visiting twice a month. (Newsbreak)
http://newsbreak.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6390&Itemid=88889066

TheAvenger

July 16th, 2009, 01:21 PM

^^ what cloverleaf station? i didn't get it... :nuts:

please explain it to me...

Yes Balintawak area. Clover Leaf is the bridge in EDSA Balintawak above the NLEXs Access Road / A. Bonifacio.

They were digging there also, so probably the LRT Balintawak Station will be constructed there.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7460-1.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7461-1.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/cloverleaf.jpg

evilgenius15

July 16th, 2009, 01:38 PM

^^ eh anu gagawin doon sa mga posts na malapit sa balintawak market?
baka part yan ng intermodal terminal project nila diyan?

TheAvenger

July 16th, 2009, 02:10 PM

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/grandstation.jpg

http://www.sminvestments.com/smic/index.php?p=259&type=2&sec=25&aid=3576

in_a_rush

July 16th, 2009, 03:01 PM

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7458-1.jpg

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss360/eme_esber/100_7457-1.jpg

ang kulit ng mga to. sabi ng bawal tumapak sa line na yan e. siguro pinituhan to ng mga gwardya! :bash::bash::bash:

adgaps

July 16th, 2009, 03:43 PM

ang kulit ng mga to. sabi ng bawal tumapak sa line na yan e. siguro pinituhan to ng mga gwardya! :bash::bash::bash:

^^ minsan nga sinisigawan at pinagagalitan ng mga guards yan eh...

syempre, kampi ako sa guards... mga pasaway kasi yang mga ganyang pasahero eh... :bash::bash:

Mithril Cloud

July 16th, 2009, 06:11 PM

Advertisement handles now at 3G trains.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/lrt_3g_handles.jpg

happosai

July 16th, 2009, 06:13 PM

sa LRT 2 recto kanina mukang sira ung rail switch na automatic sa dulo.. minamanual ng mga engineers knna ung rail switch..

Anu kaya reason bakit manual switching sila? Eh di ang bagal ng transition ng tren mula sa kabilang track?

happosai

July 16th, 2009, 06:14 PM

Advertisement handles now at 3G trains.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/lrt_3g_handles.jpg

^^Bago yan ah. Kaninang umaga wala pa yan eh.

Mithril Cloud

July 16th, 2009, 06:19 PM

For reference, that's train 1223 if I remember right.

happosai

July 16th, 2009, 06:24 PM

^^Di pa siguro nalalagyan lahat. Sa LRV 1243 ako kanina

kaelthas18

July 16th, 2009, 07:15 PM

wat happen na pala sa mga lcdtv sa loob ng MRT..nyahahaha ..

kaelthas18

July 16th, 2009, 07:16 PM

sana kabitan nlng nila ng mga mp3 lhat ng trains mrt1,2,3 and pnr, tpos hinaan nlng ung music kapag papadating na sa station and some announcements..

Blackraven

July 16th, 2009, 07:17 PM

Siguro kung iextend hanggang MOA, dapat subway na sya.

Agreed.

If they go for on-ground or above ground, this will take up space on that road plus Macapagal Avenue.

Definitely better to build it underground (though I still don't know kung stable pa ba ang land sa reclamation area........pero I think the engineers are monitoring this each day naman).

Anyways:
http://mtr.com.hk/eng/sustainability/sustainrpt/2005rpt/img/psd.jpg

Yup I really like these things (primarily a safety feature). Hopefully, we'll have these things by year 2020 or so (if it can be earlier than that, then the better).

O kahit platform gates (aka half-height gates would do). :)

P.S.
Personally though, IMHO for an airport train line, dapat lagyan nila ito (lalo na if ever gagawa sila ng APM People Mover between the three terminals sa NAIA)

Sky Harbor

July 16th, 2009, 07:38 PM

Sky Harbor

July 16th, 2009, 07:39 PM

Advertisement handles now at 3G trains.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/lrt_3g_handles.jpg

I saw this on MRT-2 as well. :D

Mithril Cloud

July 16th, 2009, 07:41 PM

^^ They say that it is extremely difficult and expensive to retrofit elevated stations with platform screen doors, hence why the MRT in Singapore doesn't have it for stations like Jurong West, which is elevated.

It's Jurong East. :D They're going to push through with retrofitting this year as a pilot project.

glenbsantos

July 16th, 2009, 07:51 PM

http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/related/44923/LRTA-to-speed-up-bag-inspection-at-stations-through-scanner

Share ko lang po. Napapamahal na ako sa GMA-7 pagdating sa news kasi updated din sila sa MRT-LRT-PNR. Sa ABS-CBN kasi wala akong naririnig na ganito.

chris_nigel

July 16th, 2009, 07:51 PM

sana ganun din mga stations ng lrt 1 kasi luma na talaga sya ehkahit yung roof na lang muna unahin nila ok na

csc36869

July 16th, 2009, 07:57 PM

NEDA okays integrated terminal for LRT Line 1
By Iris C. Gonzales Updated July 17, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - The board of the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) has confirmed the approval of an integrated terminal for the proposed Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1 North Extension Project.

The project has been reevaluated by the interagency Investment Coordination Committee (ICC) and now includes an integrated terminal for easy passenger transfer to other lines.

The so-called Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal (MMIRT) will be located in front of SM North Edsa Annex. It aims to provide a common terminal for easy passenger transfer between the LRT and Metrorail Transit (MRT) lines 1, 3 and 7.

It also intends to close the MRT 3 – LRT 1 Loop with provision for a possible seamless rail operation of Lines 1 and 3.

“As such, there will be an alignment of MRT 3, shortening of the LRT Line 1 North Extension guide way and modifying the design of the EDSA North Avenue station of MRT 7,” NEDA said yesterday.

The total budgetary requirement for the terminal is P777.6 million. It is targeted for completion by May 2010 and is expected to operate by August 2010.

Aside from the approval of the integrated terminal for the LRT Line 1, the NEDA board also confirmed ICC approval of the Logistics Infrastructure Development Project (LIDP), a funding facility by the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA).

The facility has been confirmed by the NEDA board in 2005 but has been reverted to the ICC for some changes.

The cost of the project’s technical assistance component has been increased to P160 million from P80 million and its local counterpart to P5.4 million from P4 million.

This has resulted in an increase in the total project cost by 7.18 percent to P21.56 million from P20.12 million previously.

Other changes are the exclusion of stand-alone power projects as among the eligible projects under the facility. Government agencies are also now eligible as sub-borrowers as long as they get clearance from the Department of Finance.

The LIDP aims to improve the country’s infrastructure facilities and logistics system by providing mid and long-term financing to private companies, local government units (LGUs), government-owned and controlled corporations (GOCCs), cooperatives, and government agencies.

The facility also intends to finance the technical assistance need of the Development Bank of the Philippines (DBP) “its proponent institution” as well as private financial institutions (PFIs).

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=487355&publicationSubCategoryId=66

Sana gandahan nila ang designs nung terminal, sana ang gawin nila ung hindi gaanong makakadilim sa EDSA.

glenbsantos

July 16th, 2009, 08:00 PM

I saw this on MRT-2 as well. :D

yeah me too i was amazed with their new accessories. lol. i saw these when i was heading to anonas station in MRT 2.

chris_nigel

July 16th, 2009, 08:02 PM

sana nga underground nalang eh para totally walang nakaharang sa skyview ng edsa kaso malabo aman yun mahal kasi low budget lang tayo

queetz@home

July 17th, 2009, 01:47 AM

The so-called Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal (MMIRT) will be located in front of SM North Edsa Annex. It aims to provide a common terminal for easy passenger transfer between the LRT and Metrorail Transit (MRT) lines 1, 3 and 7.

It also intends to close the MRT 3 – LRT 1 Loop with provision for a possible seamless rail operation of Lines 1 and 3.

“As such, there will be an alignment of MRT 3, shortening of the LRT Line 1 North Extension guide way and modifying the design of the EDSA North Avenue station of MRT 7,” NEDA said yesterday.

Oh my God! This is so awesome! Not only will we have a proper Grand Central Station located in its proper place, including the extension of MRT3, we can even have a seamless rail system that physically links both lines! :rock:

This is the most amazing news I've ever seen regarding the advancement of rail rapid transit in Metro Manila since the death of that God awful Edsa North Transit proposal!!! I can't wait for them to finish this in just over a year from now! Woot!!! Exciting times indeed for Metro Manila!!! :okay:

mrlow28

July 17th, 2009, 03:53 AM

Advertisement handles now at 3G trains.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/lrt_3g_handles.jpg

astig!!!Bakit parang sobrang liwanag nmn po ng ilaw.

happosai

July 17th, 2009, 04:10 AM

^^Kasi white florescent light na yung kinabit.

mrlow28

July 17th, 2009, 04:17 AM

^^Kasi white florescent light na yung kinabit.

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numiX

July 17th, 2009, 04:31 AM

Jakarta pala up until now has no light rail transit. The monorail construction was stalled due to corporate battle over the project. So bad ....:O(

Sky Harbor

July 17th, 2009, 04:38 AM

It's Jurong East. :D They're going to push through with retrofitting this year as a pilot project.

I was supposed to say Choa Chou Kang or Ang Mo Kio in the first place. :lol:

adgaps

July 17th, 2009, 04:54 AM

Jakarta pala up until now has no light rail transit. The monorail construction was stalled due to corporate battle over the project. So bad ....:O(

^^ i think they're already building one...

most of the proposals kasi ay ni-scrap dahil sa corruption allegations... :ohno:

AmbutLang

July 17th, 2009, 04:57 AM

Advertisement handles now at 3G trains.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/lrt_3g_handles.jpg

Bakit ganoon, ang ads nasa handle sa mga nakatayo? Nilagyan sana sa itaas ng mga pintoan ng 17" wide screen LCD monitor. Duon sila naka advertise kagaya sa NYC transit sa "E line" na mga bagong trains.

Anu kaya reason bakit manual switching sila? Eh di ang bagal ng transition ng tren mula sa kabilang track?
^^ The switch will hang up from time to time due to adjustment loosen as the rail vibrate as the train passes by. There is no danger since there are electro/mechanical detectors inside the switch machine which will reflect in the towerman's terminal board.
The point of the switch might be under throw. Switch point moved but did not close and will not mechanically lock. or
The point of the switch might be over throw. Switch point moved and the point closed and touch the stock rail but it did not mechanically lock.
Hand crank the switch to close the point and insert the blocks and clamp to secure the route to have safe passage of the train. Then trouble shoot the switch problem. Most of the time it takes 15 to 30 minutes to do the job unless its not a major breakage. :ohno:

chris_nigel

July 17th, 2009, 05:00 AM

mas maunlad ba tayo sa indonesia? kasi wala pa sila lrt eh

happosai

July 17th, 2009, 05:02 AM

^^Thanks Ambutlang.. I've learned a lot.. :D

hecky12

July 17th, 2009, 05:10 AM

helllo!!! im back from a long long vacation... napadaan ako sa edsa ha at nakita ko ang extension ng lrt.. ang galing.. ang bilis bilis... sabagay target nga nila april 2010.. malapit na malpit na ito...

hecky12

July 17th, 2009, 05:11 AM

hindi ko masabi na maunlad tayo.. pero try mo kumausap ng mga indonesians at dun natin malalaman...pero para sa akin.. parang patas lang.. meron naman silang airports ata.. so malaki na ang kinikita ng gov't nila airport pa lang.. if they have railways siguro patunay lang yun na papaunlad ang isang estado.

adgaps

July 17th, 2009, 05:27 AM

mas maunlad ba tayo sa indonesia? kasi wala pa sila lrt eh

^^ depends on how you define "maunlad"...

kasi, kung sa GDP pagbabatayan, malayo ang lamang nila sa atin...

kahit sa GDP per capita, na batayan sa pagiging First World, mas mataas nang konti yung sa kanila...

but just because wala pa silang LRT doesn't mean na mas maunlad talaga tayo... :)

Manila-X

July 17th, 2009, 05:54 AM

Both Philippines and Indonesia have the same economic level. Indonesia may have the largest economy in South East Asia but they are still a developing country due to high levels of corruption, instability and a large population.

Yes Indonesian cities do not have rapid transit but their railway system is much better than The Philippines. At least Philippine railways are slowly improving.

RonnieR

July 17th, 2009, 05:59 AM

mas maunlad ba tayo sa indonesia? kasi wala pa sila lrt eh

if it's GDP/GNP per capita, not much difference between two countries. They have BRT in Jakarta but Manila has none. However, Cebu City will have the first BRT. Their proposed monorail was scrapped due to funding problem and allegations on corruption. Sadly, the beams are there nakatiwangwang sa daan. Their first MRT covering 14.5 kms. is still in the first stage, i think construction would start in 2010 or 2011.

RonnieR

July 17th, 2009, 06:02 AM

^^ depends on how you define "maunlad"...

kasi, kung sa GDP pagbabatayan, malayo ang lamang nila sa atin...

kahit sa GDP per capita, na batayan sa pagiging First World, mas mataas nang konti yung sa kanila...

but just because wala pa silang LRT doesn't mean na mas maunlad talaga tayo... :)

I agree if it is GDP per capita but if it is GNP per capita which is more realistic for Philippines, kasi we have the most number of overseas workers in Asia, then Philippines GNP is higher, konti nga lang din, so just the same or they call it in Bahasa Indonesia "sama sama".
:)

hindi ko masabi na maunlad tayo.. pero try mo kumausap ng mga indonesians at dun natin malalaman...pero para sa akin.. parang patas lang.. meron naman silang airports ata.. so malaki na ang kinikita ng gov't nila airport pa lang.. if they have railways siguro patunay lang yun na papaunlad ang isang estado.

yes, tama analysis mo, in first world countries or highly developed countries, a modern and efficient public transportation is always present - whether monorail, BRT, railways. Unfortunately, our previous national leaders failed to appreciate this.

RonnieR

July 17th, 2009, 06:06 AM

related news about the Grand Central Terminal from a different source.:cheers:

Friday, July 17, 2009

NEDA board gives green
light to railway super-terminal

By Euan Paulo C. Añonuevo, Reporter

The National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) board has given the green light to a super terminal that would connect Metro Manila’s elevated railway systems.

In a statement, NEDA said its board, which is chaired by President Gloria Arroyo, approved the endorsement made by the agency’s Investment Coordination Committee (NEDA-ICC) on the Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1) North Extension Project.

The project was reevaluated to provide for an integrated terminal or the Metro Manila Integrated Rail Terminal (MMIRT), which will link LRT 1 to the existing Metro Rail Transit Line 3 (MRT 3) and the proposed MRT 7.

The MMIRT, which will be located in front of SM North EDSA Annex, aims to provide a common terminal for easy passenger transfer between the three overhead railway lines.

It also intends to close the MRT 3—LRT 1 loop with a provision for a possible seamless rail operation of the two.

“As such, there will be an alignment of MRT 3, shortening of the LRT Line 1 North Extension guide way and modifying the design of the EDSA North Avenue station of MRT 7,” NEDA said.

The total budgetary requirement for the MMIRT amounts to about P777.60 million. The proposal for the common terminal is targeted for completion by May next year, and is expected to begin operations on August of the same year.

Logistics project to proceed

Besides the LRT Line 1 North Extension Project, the NEDA board also confirmed the NEDA-ICC approval of the Logistics Infrastructure Development Project (LIDP).

The LIDP aims to improve the country’s infrastructure facilities and logistics system by providing mid- and long-term financing to private companies, local governments, government-owned and controlled corporations, cooperatives, and national government agencies. The facility also intends to finance the technical assistance needs of the Development Bank of the Philippines, its proponent institution as well as private financial institutions.

This facility has already been confirmed by the NEDA board in 2005 but has been reverted back to the NEDA-ICC due to proposed changes after an appraisal by the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA).

Among the changes in the project is the cost of the technical assistance component, which has been increased from P80 million to P160 million. The local counterpart, likewise, was raised from P4 million to P5.40 million. This has resulted in the increase in the total project cost by 7.18 percent from P20.12 million to P21.56 million.

Other changes are the exclusion of stand-alone power projects among the eligible projects under the facility; possible inclusion of national government agencies as eligible sub-borrowers as cleared by the Department of Finance; and the use of “Quality- and Cost-Based Selection” method under the new JICA guidelines.
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/july/17/yehey/business/20090717bus1.html