wow... i just knew this.. i thought MRT 9 is an updated version of MRT4..
anyway, can someone make an ideal MRT line map for this..? :D

Before kasi, LRT-5 is the metro manila segment of PNR. Now, it's the MMLA segment of North Rail but most likely underground sya, wala pa progress kasi ni yung North Rail mismo eh hindi pa operational.

MRT-5 Looks something like this:
(somebody quoted this as mrt-9 though)
http://www.metts.com.au/manila-subway-diagram-6.jpg

MRT-9, i read it somewhere *finds reference*, antayin muna natin yung 5,6,7 at 8 in the mean time. :D

http://i42.tinypic.com/2en93k5.jpg

^^ that's the map in urbanrail.net...

this one was posted in the past threads, is most probably correct, and shows the most number of lines...

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8323/mrtmanila2015gi2.jpg

^^ that's the map in urbanrail.net...

this one was posted in the past threads, is most probably correct, and shows the most number of lines...

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8323/mrtmanila2015gi2.jpg
As you can see, we really need the MRT7 and LRT-8, these should follow the radial roads outwards of the city of Manila para papalabas din ang expansion at hindi na congested.

^^ LRT6 is also supposed to do so, since magkakaroon na rin ng effective transportation mode to and from Bacoor, Cavite...

might be useful in decongesting Aguinaldo Highway...

Line 5 be it in LRT or MRT moniker is a circular metro path (like mrt3) it was designed in various alignments and forms to link up with c4 (EDSA) the various lines in the highest density portion of the city. Because the area was very built up and it could not use existing roads to build over it was figured that it would be a subway. Because of this it would be very expensive to build and hence was always on the backburner in terms of priority. Lately it's been reincarnated by Northrail (prior to this Fort Boni was pushing for it that's where it started as a PNR type line).

LRT 4 is actually still with NEDA but has now been superseded by the more politically astute LRT7 group who basically took over half of Line 4's alignment. The original Line 7 alignment did not go through commonwealth.

I've never heard of Line 9 though there may be one. In reality I find it hard to believe newer lines will be coming in over the next 10 years excepting those which have passed through ICC.

Actually all this info is in the first threads you just need to dig through it.

^^ang dami natin mga proposed mrt/lrt lines. Pero kailan kaya ito magmamaterialize? Bago natin pagusapan ang mga yan eh tuunan muna natin ng pansin ang mga existing lines. Gaya ng lrt1 south extension. Ang lrt2 extension(both sides). Ang pagdagdag ng mga coaches sa mrt3.

bakit kasi puro speculations lang tayo dito???

wla bang official statement ang DOTC, DPWH, MMDA, LRTA at PNR/ tungkol sa mga future lines???

dapat i present nila ang magiging rail network of the future.

wow... i just knew this.. i thought MRT 9 is an updated version of MRT4..
anyway, can someone make an ideal MRT line map for this..? :D

Uhh...MRT-9 is MRT-4 supposedly from Doroteo Jose-Recto to North Avenue. The "Ayala-Fort-Ortigas-QC CBD Loop" is not.

Meron na yata nagpost nito nakalimutan ko lang kung saan...

http://ryanericsongcanlas.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/mrt-4.jpg?w=800&h=575

Possible outlook of Central Station linked to LRT1,MRT3, MRT7, MRT4/MRT9.

More in this file: http://uactphilippines.org/images/stories/uact/media/november/grandcentral_stationv2.pdf
http://ryanericsongcanlas.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/the-philippine-metro-rail-transit-system/

As long as their is no official statement for MRT4 aka. MRT9. Dream project pa sya. MRT 7 pa inuna...:tongue:

LRT 4 is actually still with NEDA but has now been superseded by the more politically astute LRT7 group who basically took over half of Line 4's alignment. The original Line 7 alignment did not go through commonwealth.

I've never heard of Line 9 though there may be one. In reality I find it hard to believe newer lines will be coming in over the next 10 years excepting those which have passed through ICC.

Actually all this info is in the first threads you just need to dig through it.

The usual culture...

^^

The reality though is that planning involves a lot of politics. So planners have to be more than technicians, they should be good at politics too if they want their visions to become reality. That's true about planning everywhere, not just here in the Philippines. You gotta be a technician, salesman, and a politician to be an effective planner.

As per the MTDP of the current admin. Her rail based projects which were explicitly stated in her previous SONA's as priority are, North Rail, South Rail improvement, Connecting Line 3 to Line 1 and the LRT1 extension to Cavite. Of these The first 3 are on the ground if not fully operational partly in construction. The last one is still on the drawing, bidding boards. Somewhere during the term it became a priority to buy out MRT3 owners, this is now done (and has probably gotten some of the budget for other rail projects). We can probably expect some improvements in Line 3 starting with newer trains (as this was part of the consortium plan anyway) to augment current trains and raise capacity (longer trains - literally- and shorter headways).

IMO, ang MRT7 ay di dapat tinapos lang sa North.

Pero kung idadaan man tapos tatagos sa West Ave., mas lalong lalaki ang GCT at sasakupin na nito ang buong EDSA-North Ave. Intersection....

Dapat dineretso nila from Tala to Espana/Lerma. As originally planned or pwede rin hanggang Bilibid na rin....

Here's a picture of a streetcar in Toronto

Sana may ganito din in major streets in Manila para mabawasan na yang mga jeepneys and buses.

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/4241_108765695820_658860820_3144295.jpg

tama sana nga ganyan na para matanggal na mga jeepneys na smoke belcger pa iba

btw pare ganda ng signiture mo bro

Pssst talaga hehe

^^Ayusin muna ang drainage ng metro manila bago mag lagay ng ganyan. Baka madami ang makuryente pag tumakbo yan sa baha... :lol:

^^meron naman tayong ganyan dati, wala namang nakuryente hahaha...

^^ Actually, LRT-1 and MRT-2 are replacements for old tranvia lines which criss-crossed Manila. Additional tranvia lines would take up too much valuable road space and would further tax already taxed road infrastructure. Subways are still more prudent.

hello i'm new here!!!

WELCOME TO SSC


Pssst talaga hehe

:lol::lol::lol:kakatawa nga ehh tama ka learning is endless

sa GNN network....covering yung lower house.....discussion on the transpo projects was being discussed ang galing ang dami pa lang lines nun at airport na gagawin ng pgma......bilib ako....buti na lang yung papuntang bulacan sisimulan na.....big help for me...:banana:

^^ Actually, LRT-1 and MRT-2 are replacements for old tranvia lines which criss-crossed Manila. Additional tranvia lines would take up too much valuable road space and would further tax already taxed road infrastructure. Subways are still more prudent.

The capacity of a modern light rail vehicle (LRT/streetcar/tram/tranvia whatever you want to call them) is much higher than the jeepneys and some of the buses that ply the roads. Depending on the model you could easily replace at least 4 jeepneys with a single light rail vehicle. If they could get some sort of priority then it'd help to reduce the traffic. Subways and the LRT/MRT definitely have their place but are not practical in every situation due to costs, land constraints, or environmental conditions. The two technologies should complement each other rather than compete.

Considering it's been over 50 years or so since the last MERALCO (Manila Electric Railway And Lighting Company for those of you who know your history) tram was in service. It'll be a steep learning curve for those who have never had to deal with them, but hopefully they'll adapt for the benefit of others.

^^ Actually, LRT-1 and MRT-2 are replacements for old tranvia lines which criss-crossed Manila. Additional tranvia lines would take up too much valuable road space and would further tax already taxed road infrastructure. Subways are still more prudent.

Ok sha as a tourist attraction, maybe in Intramuros. They could mix with traffic so capacity would not be a problem. But these are "nice to have" proposals though, we should complete the light rail lines first.

^^ LRT6 is also supposed to do so, since magkakaroon na rin ng effective transportation mode to and from Bacoor, Cavite...

might be useful in decongesting Aguinaldo Highway...

^^ang dami natin mga proposed mrt/lrt lines. Pero kailan kaya ito magmamaterialize? Bago natin pagusapan ang mga yan eh tuunan muna natin ng pansin ang mga existing lines. Gaya ng lrt1 south extension. Ang lrt2 extension(both sides). Ang pagdagdag ng mga coaches sa mrt3.

The traffic in Coastal Road (that stretched from Longos to Marina) last Monday evening is just one proof that THERE IS NO EFFICIENT MODE TRANSPORTATION FOR THE PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH.

Kailan magmamaterialize? Hay naku, baka tanungin pa natin si Madam Auring or si Zenaida Seva, hindi pa tayo masagot... :lol:

Kung taga-south sana ang next President (except for Ping Lacson and Jamby Madrigal)...

The traffic in Coastal Road (that stretched from Longos to Marina) last Monday evening is just one proof that THERE IS NO EFFICIENT MODE TRANSPORTATION FOR THE PEOPLE FROM THE SOUTH.

Kailan magmamaterialize? Hay naku, baka tanungin pa natin si Madam Auring or si Zenaida Seva, hindi pa tayo masagot... :lol:

Kung taga-south sana ang next President (except for Ping Lacson and Jamby Madrigal)...

What Cavite residents need is a commuter/suburban rail not an LRT/MRT.

I'm confused though ... The MRT-4/7 Subway system(?) will definitely be built and by when??

MRT 3 train coach malfunctions, operations temporarily stopped (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=491524&publicationSubCategoryId=200)

By Dennis Carcamo Updated July 30, 2009 08:15 AM

MANILA, Philippines -- One of the train coaches of the Metro Rail Transit 3 malfunctioned this morning, temporarily stopping its operation, an official said.

MRT 3 deputy manager Nestor delos Santos said the door of the coach failed to close when it reached the Magallanes station in Makati City before 7 a.m.

In a radio interview, Delos Santos said they had to temporarily stop operations for 20 minutes to take off the coach off the tracks

The coach was brought to the Taft depot for repairs, the MRT3 official said.

The interval of trips of southbound trains has normalized but the arrival of northbound trains interval is intermittent as of this posting.

Question:

matagal ko ng gusto malaman kung ano yung naririnig ko sa MRT kapag nakahinto sa stasyon...

ang tunog niya eh parang kumakalampag na nag ri-ring na telepono, ito ay parang nangagaling sa ilalim ng tren..:nuts:

ano ba yun?

^^Baka may mga unano sa ilalim ng tren at nakikipag telebabad... :nuts:

^^ haha nakupo wag naman sana....pero halos araw araw ko ito naririnig eh...everytime na mag stop sa north avenue station...nag gaganun siya .. sabay mamamatay ang makina at aircon pati din ilaw....tapos mag ri-ring na naman ang ilalim ng malakas sabay kalampag...tapos bubukas na ulit ang makina at air-con...ewan ko kung ako lang nakakarinig nun dito...

anyone?

^^Ahhh.. alam ko na yang sinasabi mong ringing sound na yan.. ilang beses ko na rin narinig yan. Signal yan ng operator para i-transfer ang control sa kabilang side ng tren. Sa taft station ko naman yan naririnig.

^^Ahhh.. alam ko na yang sinasabi mong ringing sound na yan.. ilang beses ko na rin narinig yan. Signal yan ng operator para i-transfer ang control sa kabilang side ng tren. Sa taft station ko naman yan naririnig.

ahhh yun ba yun...okay thanks sa info..haha.:banana:

^^Nung bago palang ang MRT, enabled yan sa lahat ng pintuan ng tren. Kaya mapapansin mo sa mga pintuan may button at nakalagay "press button to signal to driver". Bawa't station dati tunog ng tunog yan. Kahit wala pa sa station tumutunog na.. dami talaga pasaway na pasahero. Kaya ngayon, disabled na sya sa passengers. Pang driver na lang yung sound na yon... :lol:

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/MRT-LRT-RAILROAD/100_7999.jpg



http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/MRT-LRT-RAILROAD/100_8000.jpg
MRT 3 North Avenue Station entrance/exit on EDSA's south-bound lane
at about 0630 Hours.



http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/MRT-LRT-RAILROAD/100_8050.jpg
MRT 3 Ayala Station



http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/MRT-LRT-RAILROAD/100_8052.jpg



http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/MRT-LRT-RAILROAD/100_8056.jpg
MRT 3 Ayala Station



http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/MRT-LRT-RAILROAD/100_8057.jpg
MRT 3 Ayala Station



http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/MRT-LRT-RAILROAD/100_8058.jpg
MRT 3 Taft Avenue Station


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/MRT-LRT-RAILROAD/100_8059.jpg
MRT 3 Taft Avenue Station

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/MRT-LRT-RAILROAD/100_8000.jpg
MRT 3 North Avenue Station entrance/exit on EDSA's south-bound lane
at about 0630 Hours.


^^Grabe naman daming tao nyan. Di pa naman ako nakaranas ng ganyan sa LRT1, kahit 7am na. Mas pipiliin ko pa mag bus kaysa pumila dyan.. :lol: Teka.. yan ba yung time na nasira yung isang tren?

^^Grabe naman daming tao nyan. Di pa naman ako nakaranas ng ganyan sa LRT1, kahit 7am na. Mas pipiliin ko pa mag bus kaysa pumila dyan.. :lol: Teka.. yan ba yung time na nasira yung isang tren?

hindi ko alam kung kailan nasira ang isang tren, pero ito ang day ng SONA ni Presidentita
last Monday 27th July.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/MRT-LRT-RAILROAD/100_8002.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/MRT-LRT-RAILROAD/100_8001.jpg

hindi ko alam kung kailan nasira ang isang tren, pero ito ang day ng SONA ni Presidentita
last Monday 27th July.


^^Baka naman mga members ng INC yan at pupunta silang Grandstand. :lol:

^^Baka naman mga members ng INC yan at pupunta silang Grandstand. :lol:

No way, they were the usual office workers of QC, San Juan, Mandaluyong, Pasig and Makati CBD.

^^Grabe naman daming tao nyan. Di pa naman ako nakaranas ng ganyan sa LRT1, kahit 7am na. Mas pipiliin ko pa mag bus kaysa pumila dyan.. :lol: Teka.. yan ba yung time na nasira yung isang tren?

araw araw ganyan sa MRT 7 am - 8 am ang dagsa ng tao....minsan umaabot na kami sa gitna ng kalsada dahil sa sobrang daming pasahero..nag stop entry na.

mas pipiliin mo pa din pumila sa ganyan at mag-mrt kesa mag-bus. trapik sa EDSA

I've experience that kind of passenger spill over on EDSA during the early morning rush hour at North EDSA station. And that was something like 5 years ago!

That's also the time when pickpockets hit bigtime. :D

I've experience that kind of passenger spill over on EDSA during the early morning rush hour at North EDSA station. And that was something like 5 years ago!

That's also the time when pickpockets hit bigtime. :D

Yup tama ka...grabe ang kalagayan diyan sa MRT - North Ave Station every morning...kaya ako noon kapag papasok sa opis lagi kong inaagahan...ang hirap makipagsiksikan sa ganyang kadaming tao...kawawa ang mga babae.:nuts:

ang Kipot kasi ng Entrance sa north ave eh

Yup tama ka...grabe ang kalagayan diyan sa MRT - North Ave Station every morning...kaya ako noon kapag papasok sa opis lagi kong inaagahan...ang hirap makipagsiksikan sa ganyang kadaming tao...kawawa ang mga babae.:nuts:

ang Kipot kasi ng Entrance sa north ave eh

I noticed that some passengers can beat the huge crowd by boarding the train at the MRT 3 Entrance at the side of Trinoma Mall, sasakay na sila doon para siguradong sila ang una sa upuan. :)

^^ I think that privilege is only for the ladies. They also allow that at LRT1's Monumento Station.

The LRT Line 1 North Extension Project
http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/proj_l1northext.htm

BRIEF DESCRIPTION:
This Project involves the construction of a 5.7-km. elevated line from Monumento of Line 1 to North Avenue Station of Line 3, with three (3) new stations namely: Balintawak, Roosevelt and North Avenue. An additional station (Malvar Station) in Caloocan City shall be, likewise, constructed including a common station at the SM North Annex in EDSA.

PROJECT COST:
P 6,322.85 Million (excluding cost of the Malvar and Common Station)


CONSTRUCTION PACKAGES:
Package A: Construction of Viaduct and Pedestrian Overpasses

Package A1 (km 15.133 to km 17.870) (Caloocan to Balintawak Area)
Package A2 (km 17.870 to km 20.614) (Balintawak to Trinoma Area)

Package B: Construction of Stations and Stations Modifications
Package C: Electro-Mechanical Works
EMS - 1: Signaling
EMS - 2: Telecommunications
EMS - 3: Automated Fare Collection System
EMS - 4: Trackworks


PROJECT DURATION:

May 2007 - April 2010 (excluding Defects and Liability Period)

Milestones:

+ May 2007 - December 2009 (Loop Closed)
+ February 2010 - Start of commercial operation for Balintawak and Roosevelt Stations
+ June 2010 - Start of commercial operation for Common Station

PERFORMANCE ACCOMPLISHMENT: (as of July 23, 2009)
Actual Accomplishment
Package A1(Construction of Viaduct & Pedestrian Overpasses - Caloocan to Balintawak Area)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 62.38%
Package A2 (Balintawak to Trinoma Area)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 67.59%
Package B (Construction of Stations and Stations Modifications)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 23.86%
Package C (revised)
Awarde to Miescor/ GTC JV 11.67%
EMS - 1: (Signaling)
Awarded to Siemens-Beta and DMCI JV Mobilization on-going
EMS - 2: (Telecommunications)
Awarded to Alcatel-Lucent Phils. 12.16%
EMS - 3: (AFCS)
Awarde to AP Trans SA 34.20%
EMS - 4: (Trackworks)
Awarded to Daxi-Frateur de Pourcq JV 33.72%

For more Information

Please contact:
Engr. Federico J. Canar
Project Manager
Tel. # +63(2)851-7338 or at
Tel. # +63(2)853-0042 local 8888

Rename na natin ang Bagong Barrio LRT Station sa Wikipedia as Malvar LRT Station to reflect the changes on LRTA website.

^^ Malvar station is a better name, IMO. :)

and, of course, it's now confirmed that there will be a station in Bagong Barrio...

EDIT: btw, i have already edited some articles in wikipedia to refelct the change in the station name...

pero may ilan pa ring hindi ako naayos... i'll just leave it to others... :)

From: http://www.philippines-travel-guide.com/light-rail-transit.html

"Taking the LRT is probably the safest way of traveling in Manila. It is also one of the places where you can see the true Filipino value of “respect for elders” and “respect for women”. It is common to see men giving up their seats for the elderly and for women passengers on the LRT."

Oo nga naman, maraming magagalang sa LRT.

Featured ang MRT sa August issue ng isang men's magazine :lol:

From: http://www.philippines-travel-guide.com/light-rail-transit.html

"Taking the LRT is probably the safest way of traveling in Manila. It is also one of the places where you can see the true Filipino value of “respect for elders” and “respect for women”. It is common to see men giving up their seats for the elderly and for women passengers on the LRT."

Oo nga naman, maraming magagalang sa LRT.

^^ yeah, i often notice that too...

mas marami na nga ako ngayong nakikitang nagpapaupo ng matatanda, kesa nung dati... :)

Here's a picture of a streetcar in Toronto

Sana may ganito din in major streets in Manila para mabawasan na yang mga jeepneys and buses.

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/4241_108765695820_658860820_3144295.jpg

Well, Pre-war Manila did have that kind of system and it was vast. Now, there's not a single trace of it left..

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Circa1900/web1890sgral.gif
http://www.blogtext.org/userFiles/LateBloomer/Manila%20streetcar,%20early%201900s.jpg

Well, Pre-war Manila did have that kind of system and it was vast. Now, there's not a single trace of it left..

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Circa1900/web1890sgral.gif
http://www.blogtext.org/userFiles/LateBloomer/Manila%20streetcar,%20early%201900s.jpg

sana ibalik nila yan kahit sa loob lng ng intramuros... pang tourista...:)

or ipalit sa mga bus n nasa edsa...:nuts::nuts::nuts:

^^Baka magwala si Claire dela Fuente nyan pag inalis mo mga bus nya sa EDSA... :lol:

sana ibalik nila yan kahit sa loob lng ng intramuros... pang tourista...:)

or ipalit sa mga bus n nasa edsa...:nuts::nuts::nuts:

Totally agree, sana ibalik even as a tourist attraction lang. But I think maraming rin naman na potential riders since there are schools and offices inside Intramuros.

^^Baka magwala si Claire dela Fuente nyan pag inalis mo mga bus nya sa EDSA... :lol:

Ewan ko ba, minsan natatawa ako pag nakikita ko yung malaking picture at ilong niya sa tabi ng mga bus e, "Ride na po!" :lol:

Sana wag na mag pa sexy pag may edad na diba? :nuts:

Ewan ko ba, minsan natatawa ako pag nakikita ko yung malaking picture at ilong niya sa tabi ng mga bus e, "Ride na po!" :lol:

Sana wag na mag pa sexy pag may edad na diba? :nuts:

^^ :lol:

Matanda na pala siya kuya?

Ewan ko ba, minsan natatawa ako pag nakikita ko yung malaking picture at ilong niya sa tabi ng mga bus e, "Ride na po!" :lol:

Sana wag na mag pa sexy pag may edad na diba? :nuts:

^^Kung aalisin daw ang mga bus sa EDSA marami ang mawawalan ng trabaho. Sabagay tama sya doon. Pero how can we decongest EDSA and make those bus drivers happy at the same time? :nuts:

^^Kung aalisin daw ang mga bus sa EDSA marami ang mawawalan ng trabaho. Sabagay tama sya doon. Pero how can we decongest EDSA and make those bus drivers happy at the same time? :nuts:

Maybe they can ride her para di sila mashado malungkot... :lol:

Actually she didn't look too sad about the proposal to reduce the number of buses along EDSA, because the buses that would be first to go are the dilapidated ones and her "Ride na po" buses are all brand new. So that would probably mean less competition for her bus company.

^^Kung aalisin daw ang mga bus sa EDSA marami ang mawawalan ng trabaho. Sabagay tama sya doon. Pero how can we decongest EDSA and make those bus drivers happy at the same time? :nuts:

Well here is a simple solution to that. Cancel most of the bus franchises, magtira ng siguro mga 2-4 bus companies, assign route numbers to the remaining bus companies, and replace the boundary system with a monthly salary system. And place fare boxes beside the driver thus eliminating the need for conductors. As for the retrenched drivers and conductors, they can work for the remaining bus companies as drivers, or be involved in the operations. Everybody happy.

Well here is a simple solution to that. Cancel most of the bus franchises, magtira ng siguro mga 2-4 bus companies, assign route numbers to the remaining bus companies, and replace the boundary system with a monthly salary system. And place fare boxes beside the driver thus eliminating the need for conductors. As for the retrenched drivers and conductors, they can work for the remaining bus companies as drivers, or be involved in the operations. Everybody happy.

Why not just cancel all the franchises and have one public bus system to ply EDSA? Similar to "The Bus" in Honolulu. The buses are high tech and comfortable and the drivers are not in competition with one another.

The solution is simple but not that simple to implement though. I'm sure Claire Dela Fuente is gonna lead the war against this proposal.

^^ Subukan niya lang i-oppose yan. :mad:

I like the provision of a uniform body for buses, like nga yung The Bus...

And removing franchises for buses....

Tsaka bawasan na nila yung mga jeep sa kalsada, esp. dilapidated & old ones, by 50%.

^^ Subukan niya lang i-oppose yan. :mad:

I like the provision of a uniform body for buses, like nga yung The Bus...

And removing franchises for buses....

Tsaka bawasan na nila yung mga jeep sa kalsada, esp. dilapidated & old ones, by 50%.

The solution to all these problems is to remove corrupt people in the government service and stop corruptions. if there is no more corruptions there will be more investments to stimulate our economies, which will results to more jobs.

Once the economy can produce millions of jobs for Pinoy we can reduce the buses and jeepneys plying the streets of Metro Manila, and we can remove also the padyaks / tricycles in the city which I guess was tolerated because of unemployment.

So to solve the mentioned problem of buses is to go back to same old battle cry " remove corrupt govt officials ".

So vote wisely come 2010...Mr. Suansing is trying his best.He's got good ideas. If he could start a BRT(a real one) that will be groundbreaking....maybe start a congestion charging.It might help.... If we do get more coaches in LRT and we the completion of the connection,this will definitely help decongest EDSA.

^^ :lol:

Matanda na pala siya kuya?

OO matanda na yan. Kasabayan pa yan nila Eva Eugenio at nila Sampaguita. :lol::lol:

Maybe they can ride her para di sila mashado malungkot... :lol:

Actually she didn't look too sad about the proposal to reduce the number of buses along EDSA, because the buses that would be first to go are the dilapidated ones and her "Ride na po" buses are all brand new. So that would probably mean less competition for her bus company.

Ayokong sumakay sa MATANDA!! :nuts::lol:

Why not just cancel all the franchises and have one public bus system to ply EDSA? Similar to "The Bus" in Honolulu. The buses are high tech and comfortable and the drivers are not in competition with one another.

The solution is simple but not that simple to implement though. I'm sure Claire Dela Fuente is gonna lead the war against this proposal.

^^Kung gagawin naman ng gobyerno yan. Baka sabihin monopoly naman ang bus system dito sa atin.

Anyway, we should move this topic to the bus thread... Nawawala na tayo sa MRT/LRT topic.. :lol:

So vote wisely come 2010...Mr. Suansing is trying his best.He's got good ideas. If he could start a BRT(a real one) that will be groundbreaking....maybe start a congestion charging.It might help.... If we do get more coaches in LRT and we the completion of the connection,this will definitely help decongest EDSA.

Reducing the number of unnecessary PUVs is critical in the decongestion process...........but please do not bring this congestion pricing crap on before us.

No need to resort to this kind of bullshit because we private motorists are not the ones to blame for the mess going along EDSA during peak hours.

It's the excess number of PUVs in EDSA that are at fault; not the private motorist.

... sana matapos na ung C-5, C-6, Skyway, tsaka ung Tunnel ba un...??? hai naku... :bash::bash::bash:

sa totoo lng... karamihan ng bus sa edsa d2 samen galing...
SAPANG PALAY-TUNGKO-FAIVIEW-MOA-BACLARAN...

Routes

* Norzagaray - Baclaran / NAIA via Quirino Highway, Commonwealth, EDSA
* Sapang Palay - Baclaran / NAIA via Quirino Highway, Commonwealth, EDSA
* Sapang Palay - Alabang via Quirino Highway, Commonwealth, EDSA / SLEX
* Sapang Palay - LRT / Ayala via Quirino Highway, Commonwealth, EDSA / Ayala Ave.
* Grotto / Tungko - Baclaran / NAIA via Quirino Highway, Commonwealth, EDSA
* Grotto / Tungko - Alabang via Quirino Highway, Commonwealth, EDSA / SLEX
* Grotto / Tungko - LRT / Ayala via Quirino Highway, Commonwealth, EDSA / Ayala Ave.
* Grotto / Tungko - FTI / Taguig via Quirino Highway, Commonwealth, EDSA / Ayala Ave.


City Buses

* BBL Trans
* Bulacan Express (now under operation of Jell Transport)
* CEM-Trans Services Inc.
* Claro Trans
* DCOMMP Transport Cooperative
* Elena Liner
* Exodus Express
* EPJ Transit/Northstar Transport
* Fermina Express
* FG Trans
* Gasat Express (under operation of Valisno Express)
* Gloren Transport
* Golden Highway Transit (under operation of Jayross Lucky Seven Tours)
* HM Transport/ HM Liner
* IBL Transport
* Jackpherlyn Transport
* Jayross Lucky Seven Tours
* Jell Transport
* JFT Liner
* JMK Liner
* Joyselle Express
* Kellen Transport
* King of Kings (under operation of Philippine Corinthian Liner)
* Lekstar Transport
* Luzon Bus Inc.
* MA-FEL Transit
* Marlea Transport
* Mayamy Transit
* Megaton Transport Corp. (under operation of Jayross Lucky Seven Tours)
* Mersan Transport
* North Star Express
* Nova Auto Transport Inc.
* Panda Transit Express (under operation of Jayross Lucky Seven Tours)
* Philippians Bus Line (New)
* Precious Grace Transport
* Rabino Liner (under operation of Elena Liner)
* Rainbow Express
* RBM Grand Rally Transit
* Renan Transit
* Sanmen Transport (now called Apex Commuters Transport)
* Santrans Bus Corporation
* Southern City Lines
* V-1 Bus Line
* Valisno Express

share lang...


matapos na rin sana ung MRT7 mula sa TUNGKO(araneta) hanggang SM north... :bash::bash::bash:

Reducing the number of unnecessary PUVs is critical in the decongestion process...........but please do not bring this congestion pricing crap on before us.

No need to resort to this kind of bullshit because we private motorists are not the ones to blame for the mess going along EDSA during peak hours.

It's the excess number of PUVs in EDSA that are at fault; not the private motorist.

Private vehicles far outnumber public vehicles along EDSA, you can check the statistics for this. In fact the almost exponential increase in private vehicles is also being blamed for congestion in EDSA, thus the implementation of the "odd-even" scheme.

Congestion pricing is just another approach at reducing the number of vehicles along EDSA, you cause traffic by using your car, thus you either pay for the opportunity cost or you take public transport.

But we wouldn't want congestion pricing right now, finish all the light rail projects first and solve the bus problem before asking us to make a choice through congestion pricing.

^^ Malvar station is a better name, IMO. :)

and, of course, it's now confirmed that there will be a station in Bagong Barrio...

EDIT: btw, i have already edited some articles in wikipedia to refelct the change in the station name...

pero may ilan pa ring hindi ako naayos... i'll just leave it to others... :)

Gen. Tinio would've been a better name for Bagong Barrio station. And if you want to be more local, Kanto Tinio can do. ;)

^^ but the 'Bagong Barrio' station will be at Gen. Malvar, not at Gen. Tinio...

saka ang pangit talaga pakinggan nung tinagalog na Gen. Tinio St. :lol::lol:

btw, thanks to Barrera marquez for improving the Malvar LRT station article... :cheers:

^^ naalala ko tuloy ang T. Tinio hehehe :) :)

^^hehehe. Gusto nyo ba ng biko at pinya? Hehehehe. OT na to.

Anu na pala update sa north extension? Wala ba picture updates dyan?

Try niyo sa 10th avenue, Kanto 10. :lol:

ang pagka alam ko jan din nakatira si Pining Garcia e...

OT na talaga tayo. Baka makasuhan tayo nyan. Kaya patayuin ang testigo. :lol:

Try niyo sa 10th avenue, Kanto 10. :lol:

ang pagka alam ko jan din nakatira si Pining Garcia e...

OT: haha...can't help it..sorry :lol::lol::lol:

OT na talaga tayo. Baka makasuhan tayo nyan. Kaya patayuin ang testigo. :lol:

ok sige pag tumayo ang testigo, kay susan tayo! :nuts:

Reducing the number of unnecessary PUVs is critical in the decongestion process...........but please do not bring this congestion pricing crap on before us.

No need to resort to this kind of bullshit because we private motorists are not the ones to blame for the mess going along EDSA during peak hours.

It's the excess number of PUVs in EDSA that are at fault; not the private motorist.

You private motorist is also part of the problem,more vehicles whether public or private contribute to traffic.Just look at all those private vehicles w/ only 1 person on board.And be careful w/ your language kabayan.

You private motorist is also part of the problem,more vehicles whether public or private contribute to traffic.Just look at all those private vehicles w/ only 1 person on board.And be careful w/ your language kabayan.

Really... I concur.

In Singapore, private car entering the Central Business District during rush hours with less than 3 persons onboard the car is subject to pay a kind of road tax.

So that the government can collect more revenue for improving the transport network in the Philippines, I suggest that private car especially SUV entering EDSA, and MetroManila cities during rush hours with less than 3 persons onboard should be subject to pay an special road tax.

I also have a SUV and another Honda car, but in going to Manila, I prefer riding the bus and MRT so that I won't add another car in the usual traffic jam in MetroManila.

" Don't ask what the country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country "

^^ Please don't commit the same mistake Jakarta did. In Jakarta, poor Jakartans hire themselves as "jockeys", where they get paid around 9000 rupiah (approximately $1) just so the car they're riding in can use the HOV lanes. Despite the city government wanting to do something about it, they have no idea how to stem the proliferation of these "jockeys" in major roads with HOV lanes.

^^interesting...i hope we don't see something like that in MM.

^^ Nothing to worry about the jockeys.:)

Seatbelt palang paano nila makikita, mabibilang paba nila ang pasahero sa loob?....:nuts::bash::nuts:

maybe their basis would be the vehicle itself.... maybe

Remember the beginning of gasoline prices went way up. Due to gasoline company's panic mode and to cushioning the effect of economic crunch. Which never been told and they have seen what will happen to them. This had made almost all who own a vehicle decided to commute or park their car at the nearest mall and take MRT.

The road tax might come close to that and will/might convince them.
(road tax or congestion pricing/sorry for the offensive term:D)

Kilala nyo ang namamahala sa atin kaya wag mag-alala kung kailan yan mapapatupad. Himala na yan kung mangyayari agad.:bash: :D

OT na ba?...:D

The base logic of congestion charge is you burden "your people" who want the luxury of a car but have other "convenient" public transport options e.g. efficient buses, trains and taxi cabs.............. In the world only first world countries can do this, and some even don't do it properly.....

To all you smart people who are recommending congestion charge in Manila :ohno: dumb idea....... The bus, train, taxi and jeep systems collapse kapag malakas ang ulan.......... you expect me to stop using my car tapos pag umulan stranded ako, very low logic.......... Fix the damn trains, buses, remove the damn jeeps and professionalize the taxi profession and then implement congestion charge geezzzzzzzzz please please please do not over simplify things too much and think that's the best solution.......... A Pilipinas napaka daming problema -- hindi niya ma imagine ang daming ng problema natin, yang congestion charge malaking kata@#$@#$ nanakawin lang yan

OT:^^ no one is stopping you from using your car...

This congestion pricing thing is just merely a set of option not forcing to be implemented. And yes they have alot to fix with our transportation system(which is currently in progress). It is also dumb if this congestion p. will be implemented in every street of MM. As i have said this is still quiet far from happening so theirs nothing to worry about.

"In the world only first world countries can do this" this very common to all of us. When will it change? We usually look up to this so called first world countries as if they are the supreme being of this world.

no need for a harsh comment please...

i feel like this came from edsa thread...

[QUOTE=tozini;40708506]OT:^^ no one is stopping you from using your car...

This is semantics - no one is stopping me...... what's the point of congestion charge? Para lumaki kita ng government diba hindi??? It is a policy for you to stop using your car to reduce congestion?? Kung napaka yaman mo tama "no one is stopping you" pero kung middle class ka at some days hindi mo na ma afford then it is stopping you...........

First world are supreme - can you compare your quality of life with theirs? Kung magaling talaga mga Filipino eh nasaan tayo? Let us all get out of these semantics about Filipinos are as good bla bla - hindi tayo katulad nila can't we see that........... This patriotic bla bla about not following first world is amazing to me....... just compare your quality of life will you that will answer everything for you on who is supreme

You private motorist is also part of the problem,more vehicles whether public or private contribute to traffic.Just look at all those private vehicles w/ only 1 person on board.And be careful w/ your language kabayan.

Wow, so you're now blaming them too for doing such? It's their choice after all and that's their choice to deal with.

You make it sound as if using our own cars to get from point A to point B is actually a crime. What the hell did we do wrong anyways?

Again, we don't need this fucking congestion charge (kasi di naman tayo kasing liit ng Singapore o Hong Kong where road space is limited). Our total land area is bigger than theirs hence we don't face that problem. In the next few decades, if ever man magkaproblema, eh di better to expand the roads and have more train lines be underground. We don't face the same problems as those countries in regards to this kasi we have bigger land area naman eh.

From the looks of it, you seem to propose measures that actually serve to penalize something that is legal & legit. As for me and a few others here, I do hope that no congestion charge measure ever gets passed here in RP (within this decade and the next).

That and you sir need to get off imposing your own moral standards upon all of us. If you know what's good for you as well as for all of us, then please spare us enough of your bullshit.:ohno:

Really... I concur.

In Singapore, private car entering the Central Business District during rush hours with less than 3 persons onboard the car is subject to pay a kind of road tax.

So that the government can collect more revenue for improving the transport network in the Philippines, I suggest that private car especially SUV entering EDSA, and MetroManila cities during rush hours with less than 3 persons onboard should be subject to pay an special road tax.


interesting di ko alam yun, are you referring to the ERP? it applies to all naman including buses..paano naman malalaman na mahigit 3 ang tao? sa alam ko ang road tax lang dito is ang ERP but it applies to all mapa kotse man or bus puno man or isa lang ang pasahero

Ang iinit ng mga tao dito..:nuts::nuts::nuts:

Thier are many reason why they choose to congestion pricing....not because of money...some people says environment and so on...

It is a policy for you to stop using your car to reduce congestion??

yes, alam mo naman pala e...

Kung napaka yaman mo tama "no one is stopping you" pero kung middle class ka at some days hindi mo na ma afford then it is stopping you...........

Thats the whole concept of it....well yes it may ended up for those who can afford if they go to much with the price...


First world are supreme - can you compare your quality of life with theirs? Kung magaling talaga mga Filipino eh nasaan tayo? Let us all get out of these semantics about Filipinos are as good bla bla - hindi tayo katulad nila can't we see that........... This patriotic bla bla about not following first world is amazing to me....... just compare your quality of life will you that will answer everything for you on who is supreme

Your not looking at the possibilities. Your looking at the misery. This is one reason our country never progress. There's a lot of things that our people can do but they never try to believe or no one tries to allow it. We just need to find it how. At marami ang makikinabang...

Simply look at china the improvement they made. They may have ended up copying others patent. But that is also makes thier country to progress. Hindi ko sinasabi na gumawa rin tayo ng fake. Kung kaya ng advance countries tayo ba hindi? or hopeless thought ang unang pumapasok? Meron ilan na oo sila lang ang may kaya lalo na ang mga complicated pero na isasama natin halos lahat di natin kaya...at dayuhan lang makakagawa or dayuhan na ang gagawa...

When do we say I love being a Filipino?

You know sometimes patriotism help people to have jobs if you would like to know.

Enough with this rant.. off topic na...pm mo na lang ako...

Can we go back to the topic please???

This is one of the most comprehensive series of threads on probably the best and most important transportation systems in our home land of Metro Manila,. For some of us, it doubles up as a sanity thread since we live in supposedly "world class" cities where getting decent rail rapid transit off the ground in areas where the need is absolute is a near impossibility. And its very annoying that we go to the thread hoping for new news or even pictures, no matter how small of an update, to give us joy, only to find bickering and its not even about MRT/LRT....grrr :rant:

people say what ever you wanna say but there's no need for any inappropriate words...

Repost

Gov’t completes takeover of MRT 3

DBP, Landbank acquire 75% MRTC stake
By Doris Dumlao
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:14:00 05/17/2009

Filed Under: Railway, Government offices & agencies

MANILA, Philippines—The government has completed the acquisition of a 75-percent stake in Metro Railway Transit 3 through state-owned lenders Development Bank of the Philippines and Land Bank of the Philippines in a deal worth about $800 million.

In an interview with the Inquirer at the sidelines of DBP’s Inter-Island Roll-on, Roll-off challenge in Siargao, DBP president Reynaldo David said the two government banks have jointly taken over a dominant interest in MRT 3 operator Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC) by individually buying out the exposure of different groups comprising the consortium.

“Our strategy is to clean it up and fix it up for eventual resale,” said David, noting that the intention was really to privatize the key infrastructure asset.

David declined to disclose the amount of the deal due to a non-disclosure clause, but other industry sources estimated the cost of the 75-percent stake at about $800 million.

Among the private sellers were Goldman Sachs (which bought the interest of the Sobrepena family), Ayala Corp., the group of Anglo-Philippine Holdings Corp. led by businessman Alfredo Ramos, Unilab and Ramcar.

The remaining 25-percent that DBP and Landbank did not acquire were bonds held by private creditor-banks—including Philippine Bank of Communications, Bank of Commerce and United Coconut Planters Bank—which chose to hold on to these securities.

Following the purchase of a 75-percent stake, David said DBP and Landbank would nominate 14 of the 15 directors making up the MRTC board.

He added that the state investment arm National Development Corp. might later on tap commercial financing to buy out DBP and Land Bank in MRT 3 and eventually privatize the 75-percent stake.

http://business.inquirer.net/money/breakingnews/view/20090517-205554/Govt-completes-takeover-of-MRT-3

[QUOTE=tozini;40708506]OT:^^ no one is stopping you from using your car...

This is semantics - no one is stopping me...... what's the point of congestion charge? Para lumaki kita ng government diba hindi??? It is a policy for you to stop using your car to reduce congestion?? Kung napaka yaman mo tama "no one is stopping you" pero kung middle class ka at some days hindi mo na ma afford then it is stopping you...........

First world are supreme - can you compare your quality of life with theirs? Kung magaling talaga mga Filipino eh nasaan tayo? Let us all get out of these semantics about Filipinos are as good bla bla - hindi tayo katulad nila can't we see that........... This patriotic bla bla about not following first world is amazing to me....... just compare your quality of life will you that will answer everything for you on who is supreme

devil's advocate:

If "some days" kung di mo na ma afford and congestion charges? How much do you spend on gasoline per kilometer and parking? If in "Some days" you can't afford it then it's time to use public transportation which i think is the point.

I own a car and i don't give a fuss about congestion fees. You know as well as i do that using your car is most of the time more expensive than taking public transportation or would i remind you of the 50+ gas prices before.

Pag umulan stranded ka? That's your case to present to defend using your car pag umulan? Ever heard of umbrellas or boots?

Picture naman dyan ng development mga pogi't magaganda. :) maraming salamat

Wow, so you're now blaming them too for doing such? It's their choice after all and that's their choice to deal with.

You make it sound as if using our own cars to get from point A to point B is actually a crime. What the hell did we do wrong anyways?

Again, we don't need this fucking congestion charge (kasi di naman tayo kasing liit ng Singapore o Hong Kong where road space is limited). Our total land area is bigger than theirs hence we don't face that problem. In the next few decades, if ever man magkaproblema, eh di better to expand the roads and have more train lines be underground. We don't face the same problems as those countries in regards to this kasi we have bigger land area naman eh.

From the looks of it, you seem to propose measures that actually serve to penalize something that is legal & legit. As for me and a few others here, I do hope that no congestion charge measure ever gets passed here in RP (within this decade and the next).

That and you sir need to get off imposing your own moral standards upon all of us. If you know what's good for you as well as for all of us, then please spare us enough of your bullshit.:ohno:

Ano bang pinagpuputok ng buchi mo kamote ka, eh we are just discussing stuff here.People like you who cannot respect other peoples opinion is one reason why this country can't progress dahil sarado ang mga isip. As I've said that system can be tried if the transportation sysytem in the Metro improves.You are saying malaki ang land area,but look what happens during rush hours,masarap bang maipit sa traffic? Now let me see if you can say that nice language in front of me personally,tapang mo ah:)

[QUOTE=s40;40710252]

devil's advocate:

If "some days" kung di mo na ma afford and congestion charges? How much do you spend on gasoline per kilometer and parking? If in "Some days" you can't afford it then it's time to use public transportation which i think is the point.

I own a car and i don't give a fuss about congestion fees. You know as well as i do that using your car is most of the time more expensive than taking public transportation or would i remind you of the 50+ gas prices before.

Pag umulan stranded ka? That's your case to present to defend using your car pag umulan? Ever heard of umbrellas or boots?


go back to my original message - it is all about options, is there an option to travel that i'm indifferent? ang sagot wala...... kung umulan, wala ako masakyan ibig sabihin hindi efficient at working ang public transport mo tapos i cocongestion charge moko pag nag dala ako ng car??? that is the logic my friend until the options are not indifferent di dapat mag karoon neto congestion crap na to

Hi guys!
I just wanna share these pics of Cesar Montano's Western Union ad in a subway station in Toronto.
It says Cesar Montano, Filipino Celebrity, Western Union User.
Sikat! ;-)
Sorry for the quality...Celfone pics.

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ004.jpg

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ005.jpg

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ006.jpg

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ007.jpg

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ008.jpg

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ009.jpg

The government should try to consolidate the bus and the mass transit fare system so that the riding public will have ease to commute to work with one commute card. :)

Sa akin lang naman, we should not deprive people from using their car. Yung car nila parang symbol ng kanilang success. Its a major purchase, give them pride and self esteem. Syempre we also have to be practical. Mataas na ang presyo ng gasolina, mausok na ren ang paligid pati. Solution dyan i tink is to make the metro's public transportation system orderly, efficient, safe and affordable. Pag ok ang public transport, im sure people who have cars would rather take the buses, or trains. Parang sa tokyo, hk, singapore, sydney, maganda ang public transport sarap maglakad lakad sa city. At the current state ng public transportation system natin, nakadismaya mag commute. Masikip ang mga trains, mausok nmn sa jeep at sa init ng panahon natin, mukha tayong lantang gulay pag datin natin sa ating pupuntahan kaya mabuti pang magdala ng lang ng sariling sasakyan kahit na lalabas na mas mahal dahil sa gastos sa gas, maintenance, parking etc kasi no choice eh.

:nuts:Sa akin lang naman, we should not deprive people from using their car. Yung car nila parang symbol ng kanilang success. Its a major purchase, give them pride and self esteem. Syempre we also have to be practical. Mataas na ang presyo ng gasolina, mausok na ren ang paligid pati. Solution dyan i tink is to make the metro's public transportation system orderly, efficient, safe and affordable. Pag ok ang public transport, im sure people who have cars would rather take the buses, or trains. Parang sa tokyo, hk, singapore, sydney, maganda ang public transport sarap maglakad lakad sa city. At the current state ng public transportation system natin, nakadismaya mag commute. Masikip ang mga trains, mausok nmn sa jeep at sa init ng panahon natin, mukha tayong lantang gulay pag datin natin sa ating pupuntahan kaya mabuti pang magdala ng lang ng sariling sasakyan kahit na lalabas na mas mahal dahil sa gastos sa gas, maintenance, parking etc kasi no choice eh.

Kung yung MRT, LRT at PNR gawin lang yan inter connected, maganda ang mga stations AT HIGIT SA LAHAT increase ang capacity para hindi tayo sardinas sa loob at malimit ang train sige mag congestion charge tayo (Ok na kahit yung bus at jeepney system bulok)........ KAPAG nagawa yan bilib nako pero kung hindi kaya eh dapat yung congestion charge mga 50 years from now pa yan. ANG MAS maganda face out na yang jeepney

Hi guys!
I just wanna share these pics of Cesar Montano's Western Union ad in a subway station in Toronto.
It says Cesar Montano, Filipino Celebrity, Western Union User.
Sikat! ;-)
Sorry for the quality...Celfone pics.

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ004.jpg

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ005.jpg

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ006.jpg

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ007.jpg

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ008.jpg

http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/brownislander/EJ009.jpg

^^Nice find...Yonge subway has high pedestrian traffic :D

lahat kaya ng station meron?
galing ah:banana:

Hindi lahat stations...But it's nice to see his ad in this busy station ;-)

:nuts:

Kung yung MRT, LRT at PNR gawin lang yan inter connected, maganda ang mga stations AT HIGIT SA LAHAT increase ang capacity para hindi tayo sardinas sa loob at malimit ang train sige mag congestion charge tayo (Ok na kahit yung bus at jeepney system bulok)........ KAPAG nagawa yan bilib nako pero kung hindi kaya eh dapat yung congestion charge mga 50 years from now pa yan. ANG MAS maganda face out na yang jeepney

Couldnt agree with you more. Tama ka at sa tingin ko kung naging seamless at widespread and lines ng mrt at lrt kusang mawawala sa lansangan ang mga tricycle, pedicap, jeepneys at sa mga museo na lang sila makikita.

^^

Since Congestion Pricing is turning out to be hot topic for debate I suggest somebody start a new thread about it.

I don't know if the mods are capable of doing this but maybe they can transfer the posts about congestion pricing here to the new thread.

I like @AmbutLang's suggestion of using a "One Card to Rule Them All" commute card to make commuting easier. Para ala nang sign na "Barya lang po sa umaga." :lol: I think this is feasible in the near future if they devise a feeder system of jeeps, fx taxis, and busees that end in MRT or LRT stations.

Couldnt agree with you more. Tama ka at sa tingin ko kung naging seamless at widespread and lines ng mrt at lrt kusang mawawala sa lansangan ang mga tricycle, pedicap, jeepneys at sa mga museo na lang sila makikita.

sa metro manila nyo lang po ba gusto mawala ang PUJ, pedicab, tricycles?

Hindi lahat stations...But it's nice to see his ad in this busy station ;-)

si piolo pascual din yata western union endorser? baka ilagay na rin piktyur ni piolo..

makikilala rin mga taartits natin dito...LOL

singapore uses only a single card for their mrt's,taxi's,buses...you just tap the card...and also the card can be reloaded..
sana magkaron din sa atin ng ganito:)

what's the latest? wla pa akong bagong nakikitang update expect nung napadaan ako ng nlex minsan.. may mga poste na near sm north.

^^ matagal na yung mga posteng yun dun... :)

in Monumento area, marami nang steel rebars na naitayo from the bus terminal up to Mercury Drug...

^^

Since Congestion Pricing is turning out to be hot topic for debate I suggest somebody start a new thread about it.

I don't know if the mods are capable of doing this but maybe they can transfer the posts about congestion pricing here to the new thread.

I like @AmbutLang's suggestion of using a "One Card to Rule Them All" commute card to make commuting easier. Para ala nang sign na "Barya lang po sa umaga." :lol: I think this is feasible in the near future if they devise a feeder system of jeeps, fx taxis, and busees that end in MRT or LRT stations.

This already being taken up by a variety of technology vendors. Basically similar to HK's very successful octopus card. Basically an electronic wallet which is used to pay for many things (almost all chain retailers and fastfood accept it) but started out on mass transit. For the moment it's not taken off but it still exist to my knowledge.

This already being taken up by a variety of technology vendors. Basically similar to HK's very successful octopus card. Basically an electronic wallet which is used to pay for many things (almost all chain retailers and fastfood accept it) but started out on mass transit. For the moment it's not taken off but it still exist to my knowledge.

Oh yeah I read about that, I'm just wondering why there isn't any buzz about it nowadays (in the Philippines). You can even buy load using your cellphone and then you simply swipe the text message bar code on the detector in the turnstiles.

Govt to extend guarantee to ‘LRT 1 South’ proponent (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/aug/07/yehey/business/20090807bus2.html)
Manila Times (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/aug/07/yehey/business/20090807bus2.html)
By Darwin G. Amojelar, Senior Reporter

THE private investor who will construct and operate a rail system from Pasay to Cavite stands to enjoy a government guarantee, an official of state-run Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) said.

The official told The Manila Times that the agency would provide guarantee to the proponent of the $1.88 billion, or P97.97 billion LRT Line 1 South Extension Project.

The LRTA official said the guarantee that would be extended the proponent would comprise a fare subsidy to passengers and an assurance that there is no other rail system that would be built near the area, among others.

The government guarantee for the rail system project was approved during the NEDA Cabinet group meeting on June 9.

The project will be financed by official development assistance (ODA) from China, and will be offered to interest investors as a public-private partnership scheme.

The revision of the project’s financing scheme came on the heels of the deterioration of the country’s fiscal position.

Philippine economic managers earlier raised the government’s budget deficit ceiling to P250 billion this year from an earlier program of P199 billion, as officials plan to crank up infrastructure and social services spending in a bid to prevent the domestic economy from contracting.

“We expect to advertise the bidding document by August or September,” the official said.

The winning bidder will fund the design, construction, installation, and integration of the extension of the existing lines. It would also be in charge of the integrated operation and maintenance of the entire line and provision of enhancement works.

The project would extend the existing 15-kilometer LRT 1 by an additional 11.7 kilometers, of which about 10.5 kilometers will be elevated and 1.2 kilometers will be at-grade.

The extension will start from the existing line’s last station at Baclaran and will traverse the cities of Parañaque and Las Piñas in Metro Manila before reaching the municipality of Bacoor, Cavite.

The project will include eight new passenger stations, with provision for two additional ones. It is expected to serve 800,000 passengers a day and cut travel time from Bacoor to Monumento, Caloocan City, to less than an hour.

^^Bidding for Design palang sila? Kala ko ready for construction na lang. Bakit ang North-ext mabilis pero sa South ang BAGAL? Tapos tumaas pa ang presyo kasi nga sobrang TAGAL gawin. Kailangan kaya ito physically mkikita ng mga taong itinatayo na?:bash:

^^

Architectural and Engineering design cannot be done unless a contract has been signed, since A&E design is a cost already. All they have are architectural schemes but that doesn't have any engineering design.

But this is good news, may budget na! So tuloy na 'to!

Does anybody have any updates on the MRT-7/4??? Or the latest subway?? =D
Are they going to be built??

after the winning bidder is announced,they can already start the LRT Line 1 South Extension Project by 2010?

how many years does it take to construct an 11.7 kilometers rail?

after the winning bidder is announced,they can already start the LRT Line 1 South Extension Project by 2010?

how many years does it take to construct an 11.7 kilometers rail?

3 years lang naman....

HHhhmmm... I'm worried about the guarantees. I hope it will not end up like MRT 3 again.

Does anybody have any updates on the MRT-7/4??? Or the latest subway?? =D
Are they going to be built??

MRT 7 is going to be built.

MRT7 is a sure thing now... construction willl begin next year, January or February i think...

LRT6's fate is still unclear... hindi pa natin sigurado kung kelan mag-uumpisa ang construction nun...

sabi nga....sana tutut na yun...

Sana matuloy yung South Extention malaking ginhawa saming tiga las pinas kasi ang mga Light Rail..para hindi kami palaging rush...by the way ginaamit paba ng LRT1 ung mga second generation train nila kasi hindi ko na sila nkikita..sana LRT1 would stick to one train nlng kasi naawa na ako sa mga old train nila like the 1st generation nila overuse na yun dapat palitan na nila..and siguro mas maganda kung may ma nkalagay na advertisement din sa mga train nila like MRT 3 AND MRT 2 pangit kasi puro plain ang train nila..except for 3RD generation train nila.

MRT 7 is going to be built.

Oh great! How long is it going to take? Do you have any articles or design plans of what the subway and stations will look like?

^^ MRT-7 is elevated save for the station under the Quezon Memorial Circle, so calling it a subway is inappropriate.

Are they going to build any modern subway lines in Manila then ... or does everything seem to be above ground from now on?

Cause this is what I was thinking of ... This was the Mrt-7 (same as 4?) ... I'm so confused haha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCDkoG3Y6po

HHhhmmm... I'm worried about the guarantees. I hope it will not end up like MRT 3 again.

Exactly what i was thinking.... I don't want to think about it though, it just needs to get built first.

More than half (55%) of London "Underground" is in fact above ground..! Only two lines, Victoria (save for the tracks to the depot) and Waterloo & City are entirely underground.

^^ MRT-7 is elevated save for the station under the Quezon Memorial Circle, so calling it a subway is inappropriate.

More than half (55%) of London "Underground" is in fact above ground..!

compared to Manila's 2%?

This is what Thais did to BTS so it won't be directly hitting the Victory Monument:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3455654910_6b24e0774e_b.jpg

This is their equivalent of our own Monumento right?

hay.... my mind is filled with "if only" and "what could have been" every time I see this pic.

Let's hope LRTA will do a good job to its future lines

South Extension naman pls! :bash:

This is what Thais did to BTS so it won't be directly hitting the Victory Monument:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3455654910_6b24e0774e_b.jpg



^^ i actually came from bkk a week ago, and actually stood there in front of that monument observing the area and seeing the coming and goings of the trains and the vehicles and people underneath it.. it truly was a visual feast !

u could feel the rhythm and pace of the city standing on the elevated pedestrian footbridge and you'll be amazed how orderly things are... u could not hear a single honk of a horn from cars passing by even during rush hour.. its just a steady stream of people, cars, and the elevated bts all converging and coming together

Will there be an octopus card soon in the Philippines?

si piolo pascual din yata western union endorser? baka ilagay na rin piktyur ni piolo..

makikilala rin mga taartits natin dito...LOL

singapore uses only a single card for their mrt's,taxi's,buses...you just tap the card...and also the card can be reloaded..
sana magkaron din sa atin ng ganito:)

uhmmm MRT and Bus lang, sa taxi eh cash or debit card ang ginagamit. pwede din gamitin ang card sa mcdo hehe although since nag upgrade ng card system eh di pa ata naaayos

This is what Thais did to BTS so it won't be directly
hitting the Victory Monument:

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/bangkok.jpg



I am sure it will be nearly the same with our Monumento in Caloocan where EDSA and
MarArthur Highway converged. The LRT 1 Extension to EDSA will pass clear of
Monumento Rotunda.


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/100_8449.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/mrt1-monumentoa-1.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/mrt1-monumento-EDSA.jpg


The foundation post of LRT 1 Extension is already arranged to pass that way.


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/3-2.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/2-2.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/1-3.jpg

^^ Finally some photos of progress on the connecting viaduct between the existing LRT1 and the new extension. It would be interesting to see how this particular section continues on and how it would look like from the ground. THanks Avenger! :okay:

This is what Thais did to BTS so it won't be directly hitting the Victory Monument:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3565/3455654910_6b24e0774e_b.jpg

This is their equivalent of our own Monumento right?

hay.... my mind is filled with "if only" and "what could have been" every time I see this pic.

Actually may isa pa yatang rotunda na tulad din niyan pero walang BTS na dumadaan dun. Hindi ko lang matandaan yung name.

^^ i actually came from bkk a week ago, and actually stood there in front of that monument observing the area and seeing the coming and goings of the trains and the vehicles and people underneath it.. it truly was a visual feast !

u could feel the rhythm and pace of the city standing on the elevated pedestrian footbridge and you'll be amazed how orderly things are... u could not hear a single honk of a horn from cars passing by even during rush hour.. its just a steady stream of people, cars, and the elevated bts all converging and coming together

That's the reason why I want to visit BKK in near time. :D

Let's hope LRTA will do a good job to its future lines

Sana lang talaga. Ay hindi. Dapat talaga!

Will there be an octopus card soon in the Philippines?

Snail time, corruption and money will tell. :D :lol:

;40971720']uhmmm MRT and Bus lang, sa taxi eh cash or debit card ang ginagamit. pwede din gamitin ang card sa mcdo hehe although since nag upgrade ng card system eh di pa ata naaayos

Sosyal naman niyan!!! :lol:

I am sure it will be nearly the same with our Monumento in Caloocan where EDSA and
MarArthur Highway converged. The LRT 1 Extension to EDSA will pass clear of
Monumento Rotunda.


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/100_8449.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/mrt1-monumentoa-1.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/mrt1-monumento-EDSA.jpg
The foundation post of LRT 1 Extension is already arranged to pass that way.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/3-2.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/2-2.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/1-3.jpg

^^ Finally some photos of progress on the connecting viaduct between the existing LRT1 and the new extension. It would be interesting to see how this particular section continues on and how it would look like from the ground. THanks Avenger! :okay:

Salamat sa updates, @TheAvenger!! :applause: :applause:

^^ Finally some photos of progress on the connecting viaduct between the existing LRT1 and the new extension. It would be interesting to see how this particular section continues on and how it would look like from the ground. THanks Avenger! :okay:

You are welcome.

Next week when I go to Manila, I shalll take a nice shot for the connection between the existing LRT 1 and the Extension being built in EDSA Monumento.

^^http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/icons/illustrations_tuzki006.gif Nice work Avenger. Kamusta na yung sa Clover leaf? Anu kayang plano nilang ilagay na bridge doon?

^^http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/icons/illustrations_tuzki006.gif Nice work Avenger. Kamusta na yung sa Clover leaf? Anu kayang plano nilang ilagay na bridge doon?

Nakita ko na sa gitna ng west portion ng present EDSA bridge ay naghukay sila na paglalagyan ng poste ng LRT Extension. Sa gitna ng east portion ng present EDSA bridge ay ganoon din ang ginawa, therefore ang span distance ng two legs / post ng LRT foundation ay magiging malapit na lang about 15 to 20 meters na lang.

http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/100_8323.jpg


http://i1009.photobucket.com/albums/af217/cris46/100_8322.jpg

^^ i actually came from bkk a week ago, and actually stood there in front of that monument observing the area and seeing the coming and goings of the trains and the vehicles and people underneath it.. it truly was a visual feast !

u could feel the rhythm and pace of the city standing on the elevated pedestrian footbridge and you'll be amazed how orderly things are... u could not hear a single honk of a horn from cars passing by even during rush hour.. its just a steady stream of people, cars, and the elevated bts all converging and coming together

oh yeah very orderly indeed.. sa Manila lang naman abusado sa pagbusina, even in Jakarta, Indonesians arent so used to honking..

The sidewalks are very organized too, mas mahilig pa nga magtinda sa bangketa mga Thais pero everything is still clean and orderly. :)

to re-edit

:wtf:

:wtf:

ano ba yaong wtf : parang world wildlife foundation ?

^^ bakit diz?

South Extension naman pls! :bash:

Manila Times

Friday, August 07, 2009


Govt to extend guarantee
to ‘LRT 1 South’ proponent

By Darwin G. Amojelar, Senior Reporter

THE private investor who will construct and operate a rail system from Pasay to Cavite stands to enjoy a government guarantee, an official of state-run Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) said.


:)

;40998184']^^ bakit diz?

inedit na.

kanina nagsasalita siya ng ibang language.

inedit na.

kanina nagsasalita siya ng ibang language.

ah... iyon ba.
yes I made a remark in Bahasa Indonesia na sabi ko ang ibang lugar ng Jakarta ay
kasing dumi ng Maynila.

pero ano ba yaong wtf ?

ah... iyon ba.
yes I made a remark in Bahasa Indonesia na sabi ko ang ibang lugar ng Jakarta ay
kasing dumi ng Maynila.

pero ano ba yaong wtf ?

^^What The Fogi?? http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/106.gif

Bawal daw kasi ang ibang language dito. Tagalog lang at english lang ang puwede para daw na iintindihan ng lahat.. http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/68.gif No harm done naman eh.. http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/67.gif

^^What The Fogi?? http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/106.gif

Bawal daw kasi ang ibang language dito. Tagalog lang at english lang ang puwede para daw na iintindihan ng lahat.. http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/68.gif No harm done naman eh.. http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/67.gif

ganoon ba.... hindi ko alam. mabuti naitanong ko kung ano yaong wtf.

^^OK lang yon.. Kahanga hanga naman ang contribution mo dito sa thread na ito eh.. http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/77.gif

May update ka ba ng SM-Trinoma station? http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/57.gifhttp://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/57.gif Magkape muna tayo.. Hehehe...

thanks Avenger for the fresh updates...

^^OK lang yon.. Kahanga hanga naman ang contribution mo dito sa thread na ito eh.. http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/77.gif

May update ka ba ng SM-Trinoma station? http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/57.gifhttp://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/57.gif Magkape muna tayo.. Hehehe...

wala pa. pero sa tuesday pag luwas ko ay doon ako sa EDSA Quezon Av ako dadaan para makita ko ang progress ng LRT Extn doon.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/LRT_Updates/P8090093.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/LRT_Updates/P8090095.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/LRT_Updates/P8090096.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/LRT_Updates/P8090097.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/nakayome/LRT_Updates/P8090098.jpg

^^I got a chance to take some shots of the Monumento area today while heading to the PNR Caloocan yard with the RIHSPI team.

bakit magkatabi yung dalawang poste sa isang pic?

^^ dahil dun yung umpisa ng curve papuntang EDSA... :)

well, it seems ganun pa rin ang mga poste sa Monumento area... nung dumaan ako jan nung Friday, ganyan pa din itsura nila... isa pa lang ang nasesementuhan... yun pa lang nasa EDSA..

how about dun sa Balintawak? i noticed a very low metal clearance over the two lanes sa tabi ng center island... para saan yun?

kung napunta kayo dun, you'll know what i'm talking about...

DOTC draws up list of priority infra projects (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/aug/10/yehey/business/20090810bus2.html)
Manila Times (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/aug/10/yehey/business/20090810bus2.html)
By Darwin G. Amojelar, Senior Reporter

THE Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) will propose a list of projects under the new Comprehensive and Integrated Infrastructure Program (CIIP) for 2010 to 2013.

The initial list includes the Light Rail Transit Line 1 (LRT 1)-Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Link Project, South Rail Phase 1 (Lucena to Legaspi), Phase 2 (Daraga, Albay to Matnog, Sorsogon) and the LRT 2 East Extension Project.

The agency said the LRT-NAIA interconnection would cost about P5.05 billion. Its feasibility study would start next year.

”The funding to conduct a feasibility study is included under the proposed DOTC CIIP 2010 to 2013 budget programming,” the agency said.

Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) and the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) are updating the conceptual design/pre-feasibility study of the project.

The LRTA will also conduct a feasibility study for the P9.4-billion LRT 2 Phase 2 from Santolan Station in Marikina City to Masinag Junction in Antipolo, Rizal.

The DOTC said the funding for LRTA to carry out the procurement of consultancy services for the conduct of a feasibility study would also fall under the agency’s CIIP.

Also included is the SouthRail Project Phase 1-B from Lucena to Legaspi costing P34.1 billion, as well as Phase 2, from Daraga, Albay to Matnog, Sorsogon, which would cost P16.77 billion.

The project will be implemented by the Philippine National Railways.

The revitalized rail system from Caloocan to Bicutan began operating last month, while the Caloocan-to-Alabang stretch would be fully operational before the end of the year.

The operation of the Alabang to Calamba, Laguna stretch is expected to start next year.

The rehabilitation of trains and railway tracks from Caloocan to Calamba was funded by Korean official development assistance worth $59 million.

^^Link to the airport!! Finally... :cheers:

Govt to extend guarantee to ‘LRT 1 South’ proponent (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/aug/07/yehey/business/20090807bus2.html)
Manila Times (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2009/aug/07/yehey/business/20090807bus2.html)
By Darwin G. Amojelar, Senior Reporter

THE private investor who will construct and operate a rail system from Pasay to Cavite stands to enjoy a government guarantee, an official of state-run Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) said.

I think masisimulan ang construction nito pag si Kris Aquino na ang Presidente ng Pilipinas. Worst comes to worst, si Baby James... :ohno:

i am optimistic on this project..

more railway projects please

ganoon ba.... hindi ko alam. mabuti naitanong ko kung ano yaong wtf.

ot: no offense pero nahahalata yung edad mo sa question mo. hehe.

HHhhmmm... I'm worried about the guarantees. I hope it will not end up like MRT 3 again.

Different. MRT3 was a BOT LRT1 south Extension (or line 6 as listed) is a gov't project. So there is no implicit equity to guarantee a return with. It should come out as a much cheaper project over all (including financing) than MRT3. It's the reason MRT 7 is being watched like a hawk by many anti-corruption groups because it has the same structure as MRT3 and a de-facto guarantee would mean another situation like MRT3.

Actually it would make sense if the gov't just raised the price of the rail lines as well. It's the price of trying to be popular that keeps it among the lowest in the world.

^^ yaps, increasing price for using our rail transit system should be increased... anyway mababa pa rin yan compared sa ibang bansa...

maganda yun para may budget for maintenance and capacity expansion...

ot: no offense pero nahahalata yung edad mo sa question mo. hehe.

OT:

Guys, anong petsa na, ni hindi niyo man lang sinagot tanong niya, hihintayin niyo pa ba hangang sa Thread 15 bago niyo sagutin tanong niya?? :lol:

OT:

^^ ok, sasagutin ko na...

wtf?! = what the f**k...

oh, yan, solved na... :)

I think masisimulan ang construction nito pag si Kris Aquino na ang Presidente ng Pilipinas. Worst comes to worst, si Baby James... :ohno:I have the same feeling. If they're going to start it in 2010 (most worrisome is they are going to start the feasibility study only in 2010), then expect it to be scrapped by the next administration. We just hope that they will have the same priorities with the current administration, but if the opposition wins, I highly doubt it.

Different. MRT3 was a BOT LRT1 south Extension (or line 6 as listed) is a gov't project. So there is no implicit equity to guarantee a return with. It should come out as a much cheaper project over all (including financing) than MRT3. It's the reason MRT 7 is being watched like a hawk by many anti-corruption groups because it has the same structure as MRT3 and a de-facto guarantee would mean another situation like MRT3.

Actually it would make sense if the gov't just raised the price of the rail lines as well. It's the price of trying to be popular that keeps it among the lowest in the world.I see. I forgot that this is not a BOT project. I was just confused because it said that there will be a "private investor who will construct and operate a rail system from Pasay to Cavite." Isn't it the basic concept of BOT? It is really funny how the BOT law was made to make large infrastructure projects more viable and faster to build but actually resulted in the opposite. :ohno:

And yes, I also believe that the fares in all lines are very cheap to the point of bleeding the government coffers and eroding the capacity of the lines. I hope that by doing that, there would be some improvements in services. Also, I noticed that LRT 1 is starting to become inefficient lately, but not as worse as the MRT 3 still.

OT:
^^ ok, sasagutin ko na...
wtf?! = what the f**k...
oh, yan, solved na... :)This is really funny :lol:

Pero tama na ha, masyado na tayong OT. Thanks.

^^ Uy madame, from maka-V naging maka-L na ha :p Amen as usual sa sig :D

Anyway, re: fares, it's high time they raise. Di naman palagi na lang iaasa sa ads ang kita. Kung meron man :lol:

oh yeah very orderly indeed.. sa Manila lang naman abusado sa pagbusina, even in Jakarta, Indonesians arent so used to honking..

The sidewalks are very organized too, mas mahilig pa nga magtinda sa bangketa mga Thais pero everything is still clean and orderly. :)

MMDA has a program against these bus drivers na busina ng busina, parang mga galing sa bundok na nagmamaneho dito sa Metro Manila....nakakahiya, nakakainis. One time, I rode a taxi and commented this thing sa mga dumaan na bus drivers, ang sagot sa akin? "eh, nabawasan na nga daw yan....dati mas malala...".

You're right, di talaga sanay ang mga INdonesians, Thais, Malaysians bus drivers sa pag busina...

When will our stupid bus drivers learn?

Mahihirapan kz ang DOTC na magincrease nang fares sa MRT/ LRT. Suggestion palang, siguradong sangkaterbang protesta na agad yan.

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC04926-1.jpg
Aug. 11

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/DSC04926-1.jpg
Aug. 11

Nice Shot of The Crowded Metro Line Here in mege manila!

any news about the south extension of LRT Line 1 from baclaran to Bacoor Cavite if will benefit us! not only the cavitenos but also the las pineros...

^^ Thanks..LRT South Extension - I think for feasibility study and it's in the approved project of the gov't.

Gilmore Station, LRT purple line
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3346/3571526045_fc98a40eac.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/petertoshiro/

Cubao station, new photo

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3459/3800336514_de433ffec9.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jobad/

^^ Feeling mo ang ganda-ganda ng MRT Cubao sa shot na to :lol:

Mahihirapan kz ang DOTC na magincrease nang fares sa MRT/ LRT. Suggestion palang, siguradong sangkaterbang protesta na agad yan.

They should follow the style of the oil companies. Price hikes start at midnight :bash:

sana i push through agad ung LRT1 south extension

^^ Thanks..LRT South Extension - I think for feasibility study and it's in the approved project of the gov't.

Gilmore Station, LRT purple line
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3346/3571526045_fc98a40eac.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/petertoshiro/



^^ uyy paulinian!

MRT Blue line with Greenhills - San Juan Skyline
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/mrtbluelinephoto2jpg.jpg

MRT Ortigas
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/MRTblueline.jpg

Cubao station, new photo

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3459/3800336514_de433ffec9.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jobad/

wow. kala ko sa thailand. cubao station pala. ang linis tingnan at maganda pagkaka-kuha. pero parang hndi ganyan ang itsura pag pmupunta ako sa cubao station ng mrt3.

wow. kala ko sa thailand. cubao station pala. ang linis tingnan at maganda pagkaka-kuha. pero parang hndi ganyan ang itsura pag pmupunta ako sa cubao station ng mrt3.

dahil wlang tao....at malinis.....pero pag marami ng tao iba na kwento...:) ako rin nagulat ha.....ibig sabihin ang kumuha ng pic magaling...

^^ Thanks..LRT South Extension - I think for feasibility study and it's in the approved project of the gov't.

Gilmore Station, LRT purple line
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3346/3571526045_fc98a40eac.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/petertoshiro/

^^Style mo! Sana kinuhanan mo na ng close up shot yung tsiks. Tsaka sana kinuha mo na rin yung cellphone number at friendster account nya. :lol::lol::lol:

^^ Facebook na ang uso happs :D

^^OT: Multiply at friendster lang kasi gamit ko.. :tongue:

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/HisDruidess/giant_anime_train_japan.jpg
^^Ang ganda naman ng pagkakagawa nito.. :banana::banana:

With the current beating this administration is getting now, even as it winds down, do you guys think people would be lukewarm to raising the fares of the MRT and LRT? How would the media react?


I have the same feeling. If they're going to start it in 2010 (most worrisome is they are going to start the feasibility study only in 2010), then expect it to be scrapped by the next administration. We just hope that they will have the same priorities with the current administration, but if the opposition wins, I highly doubt it.

I see. I forgot that this is not a BOT project. I was just confused because it said that there will be a "private investor who will construct and operate a rail system from Pasay to Cavite." Isn't it the basic concept of BOT? It is really funny how the BOT law was made to make large infrastructure projects more viable and faster to build but actually resulted in the opposite. :ohno:

And yes, I also believe that the fares in all lines are very cheap to the point of bleeding the government coffers and eroding the capacity of the lines. I hope that by doing that, there would be some improvements in services. Also, I noticed that LRT 1 is starting to become inefficient lately, but not as worse as the MRT 3 still.

This is really funny :lol:

Pero tama na ha, masyado na tayong OT. Thanks.

Project Updates
http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/proj_l1northext.htm

The LRT Line 1 North Extension Project

BRIEF DESCRIPTION:

The Project involves the construction of a 5.7-km. elevated line seamlessly from Monumento Station of Line 1 to North Avenue Station of Line 3, with three (3) new stations namely: Balintawak, Roosevelt and a Common Station in front of SM Annex North EDSA plus Malvar Station in Caloocan City.

PROJECT COST:

P 6,322.85 Million (excluding cost of the Malvar and Common Station)


CONSTRUCTION PACKAGES:
Package A: Construction of Viaduct and Pedestrian Overpasses

Package A1 (km 15.133 to km 17.870)(Caloocan to Balintawak Area)
Package A2 (km 17.870 to km 20.614)(Balintawak to Trinoma Area)

Package B: Construction of Stations and Stations Modifications
Package C: Electro-Mechanical Works
EMS - 1: Signaling
EMS - 2: Telecommunications
EMS - 3: Automated Fare Collection System
EMS - 4: Trackworks

PROJECT DURATION:

2007 - 2010 (excluding Defects and Liability Period


PERFORMANCE ACCOMPLISHMENT: (as of August 7, 2009)
Actual Accomplishment
Package A1(Construction of Viaduct & Pedestrian Overpasses -
Caloocan to Balintawak Area)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 65.03%
Package A2 (Balintawak to Trinoma Area)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 69.87%
Package B (Construction of Stations and Stations Modifications)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 25.26%
Package C (revised)
Awarde to Miescor/ GTC JV 11.67%
EMS - 1: (Signaling)
Awarded to Siemens-Beta and DMCI JV Mobilization on-going
EMS - 2: (Telecommunications)
Awarded to Alcatel-Lucent Phils. 12.16%
EMS - 3: (AFCS)
Awarde to AP Trans SA 38.09%
EMS - 4: (Trackworks)
Awarded to Daxi-Frateur de Pourcq JV 39.99%
TOTAL PECRCENTAGE OF THE PROJECT 41.18%

STATUS OF THE PROJECT (as of June 2009):

1. Total Fund Releases as of June 29, 2009:
SARO...................P6,322.84 M (Special Allotment Release Order)
NCA................... 2,378.68 M (Notice of Cash Allocation)
Actual................ 2,030.31 M

2. 24 Hour/7 Day Schedule Implemented

3. On the Common Station at SM Annex
- Approved by the NEDA ICC-CC
- Confirmed by the NEDA Board on July 7, 2009

4. On the Additional Station (Malvar Station)
- On going preparation of the feasibility study

TARGETS:

1. Acceleration Program to be implemented for the commercial operation by February 2010 from the original schedule of May 2010

2. Commissioning targeted by December 31, 2009

3. Revenue operation by February 2010 (Balintawak and Roosevelt Station only)

For more Information

Please contact:
Engr. Federico J. Canar
Project Manager
Tel. # +63(2)851-7338 or at
Tel. # +63(2)853-0042 local 8888

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Ok kapag NCA ba lumabas na ba yung pera? Yan ba ang magiging pambayad sa Common and Malvar stations?

may diggings na pala from north end ng MRT 3 papuntang Grand Central Terminal

@barrera: ang NCA ay parang advisory na nangagaling sa DBM (Secretary Andaya) na yun nga, meh Cash Allotment na. Pwede nang i release sa agency concerned.

12th August.

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^^ Salamat sa mga pics The Avenger...

Di kaya pwede tanggalin yung mga billboard dyan, ang pangit tignan sa background ni Ka Andres...

^^ TheAVenger: thanks sa update. Yes, dapat mawala ang mga billboards - eyesores.

Wala akong napansin na diggings sa lugar ng EDSA / North Avenue / West Avenue area.

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^^ Agree! Salamat, @TheAvenger! :okay: :applause:

Dapt may ruling na wala dapat ibang structure or edifice na tataas pa o papantay sa height ng monument in an approximate location of 250 m away from the center of the monument.

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Progress of Balintawak LRT Station.

^^ TheAVenger: thanks sa update. Yes, dapat mawala ang mga billboards - eyesores.

about the billboards, it is a million pesos business and even B.F. and Senators cannot do anything to even minimize it.

wow, it's really shaping up.

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Progress of Balintawak LRT Station.

Yan yung sinasabi kong beam matagal na nung mag-post rin ako ng pix dati na. Ngayon mas malapad na pala. Good to see that.

^^Anu kaya magiging itsura ng mga stations dyan? Sa beam palang na yan malabong kagaya na ito ng mga lumang stations ng LRT1.

^^Maaaring halos pareho lang siya ng LRT-1 Stations pero di na gagamit ng roof tiles (di na uso ngayon yun eh). Or on the other hand, medyo itutugma nila sa design ng MRT stations since EDSA rail transit din ito gaya ng MRT3.

Thanks sa mga photo updates "The Avenger".

Wala akong napansin na diggings sa lugar ng EDSA / North Avenue / West Avenue area.
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^^Di ba diggings na yang nasa gitna ng EDSA? Yang may fence ng MMDA? http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/7.gif

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Progress of Balintawak LRT Station.

Parang naka-arc yung ilalim ng beam.

Artist wins P200,000 in LRT art contest
By Janie Christine Octia
INQUIRER.net First Posted 16:29:00 08/13/2009 Filed Under: Road Transport, Arts (general), Awards and Prizes

MANILA, Philippines—Painter Mario Panis won the grand prize of P200,000 in the LRT ART 2009 competition, besting 314 others who joined the contest to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the Light Rail Transit Authority next year.

Panis’s entry, “Sakay na rin po kayo,” shows of a young boy with a pen and paper in hand and images of LRT trains and riders.

The organizers also selected five Juror's Choice which entails a prize of P100,000; six finalists also received P50,000 each.

A first for LRTA, the art competition, themed as "LRT at ang Buhay Pinoy," is in partnership with Philippine Association of Printmakers, which handled the mechanics and technicalities of the contest.

"I was thinking of coming up with a special LRTA calendar next year and I thought of doing it through an art competition," said Melquiades Robles, LRTA's Administrator.

He said the art competition is also meant to gauge the impact of the mass transit system on Filipinos.

"We wanted to see the impact and value of the LRT in the eyes of the Filipinos and how they are affected by it," he said of the chosen theme for the contest.

Robles said his office also wants to promote rail-riding among the middle class, or car owners, to help decongest Metro Manila.

Based on LRTA studies, most LRT patrons are students and members of the lower classes. But during oil price spikes, more people rode the train.

"This is something that we want to happen again, and one way of promoting this is through this competition," the LRTA chief said.

Robles said his office wants to make the contest an annual competition, but did not commit due to logistics. This year's competition gave a total of a million pesos in prizes, considered by artists to be one of the more generous art contests in the country today.
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20090813-220117/Artist-wins-P200000-in-LRT-art-contest

LRT Line 2 cuts operations (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20090813-220123/LRT-Line-2-cuts-operations)
By Abigail Kwok
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 17:31:00 08/13/2009


MANILA, Philippines—(UPDATE) The Light Rail Transit Line 2 has partially suspended its operations following a power failure Thursday afternoon.

LRT Line 2 stations from Cubao to Santolan will be temporarily closed, said Maria Kristina Cassion, public relations officer in charge of the LRT Administration.

Cassion said the power failure was caused by a crane that accidentally hit the Manila Electric Co.’s Nagtahan grid.

She said the LRT management “is closely monitoring the power situation with Meralco so as to immediately restore full line operation from Santolan to Recto and vice-versa.”

The LRT Line 2 traverses the Recto to Santolan route.

The LRTA could not say when it can resume operations for the said stations, as Meralco is responsible for the repairs.

Medyo matagal-tagal rin akong nawala rito at uminit ang mga eksena :lol:

Happiness muna! (Sobrang tagal na nito nakalagay sa mga LRT1 LRV)

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^^ i think sa mga 1G trains lang yang mga yan... wala naman akong nakikitang ganyang drawings sa 2G at 3G...

ang kadalasan kasing decorattions sa 2G at 3G ay yung mga tula... :)

LRT Line 2 cuts operations (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20090813-220123/LRT-Line-2-cuts-operations)
By Abigail Kwok
INQUIRER.net
First Posted 17:31:00 08/13/2009

MANILA, Philippines—(UPDATE) The Light Rail Transit Line 2 has partially suspended its operations following a power failure Thursday afternoon.:no: Napapansin ko kapag nagsu-suspend ng operations ang LRT lagi na lang extraneous factors and dahilan. Last time nahulog ang crane sa LRT 1 ngayon naman sa LRT 2. Dapat siguro taasan ang fine sa mga ganito diba?

^^ i think sa mga 1G trains lang yang mga yan... wala naman akong nakikitang ganyang drawings sa 2G at 3G...

ang kadalasan kasing decorattions sa 2G at 3G ay yung mga tula... :)

^^Meron din ako nakikita sa 2G LRV nyan.. :D

:no: Napapansin ko kapag nagsu-suspend ng operations ang LRT lagi na lang extraneous factors and dahilan. Last time nahulog ang crane sa LRT 1 ngayon naman sa LRT 2. Dapat siguro taasan ang fine sa mga ganito diba?

^^Puwede ba nilang kasuhan ng economic sabotage ang mga makakasagabal sa operations ng mga LRT?

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^^My favorite station... Carriedo station.. malapit sa bilihan ng mga pirata.. http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/msg/emoticons/pirate_2.gif

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bakit may mga flags ng Italy dun sa recto station??

^^ Those are not Italian flags. Those are flags of the Iglesia ni Cristo, which celebrated its 95th founding anniversary last July 27.

Ganda yung mga recordings ng PA system sa Carriedo. Sana lahat ng station may ganon at saka pati na sa tren

^^ They do. I heard them in Quirino, Gil Puyat and Doroteo Jose before.

sorry if i missed it out. what's that beam below the tracks for?

^^ Looks like it's a gantry sign.

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ganda ng mga photos mo Ronnie. :okay: akala ko din dati Italian flags. Pero bakit me figure sa gitna. INC pala.

ok iglesia pala. sorry

ganda ng mga photos mo Ronnie. :okay: akala ko din dati Italian flags. Pero bakit me figure sa gitna. INC pala.

recto station ba yan....

tuloy tuloy na kaya ang beam.....ok naman pala ang monumento hindi masasagasaan at hindi magagalaw si ka andres....yung mga pesteng billboards lang talaga sobra naman wala na atang nag reregulate nyan....nabababoy na mga cities natin...

Medyo matagal-tagal rin akong nawala rito at uminit ang mga eksena :lol:

Happiness muna! (Sobrang tagal na nito nakalagay sa mga LRT1 LRV)

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you mean people spit inside the train? tapos nagdidikit pa ng gum sa kung saan saan? :ohno:

yes, i've seen an old man spit inside the train... :(

something needs to be done sa "tulakan" sa MRT, hindi excuse na rush hour sya, nakakalungkot talaga ang ugali ng ibang mga kababayan natin :(

;41323648']something needs to be done sa "tulakan" sa MRT, hindi excuse na rush hour sya, nakakalungkot talaga ang ugali ng ibang mga kababayan natin :(

ang problema sa bansa natin ay dahil sa maraming kakulangan.

1. kakulangan ng train.
2. kakulangan sa systema. pwede namang magkaroon ng systema na pila at pwede rin namang kapag puno na ang train ay huwag ng magpasakay at hindi yung hanggat may masi-siksikan.
3. kakulangan sa disiplina ng mga pinoy.

May mga diggings na infront of trinoma/SM North right after the MRT-3 line. kita siya from the pedestrian overpass, mga 3 na yung nakita kong mga nadig na holes (could be more) and saw some heavy equipments hauling the soil na nahukay

do u have pictures jefflacs??

yes, i've seen an old man spit inside the train... :(

this is really disappointing; it just really shows most of us are not civilized. Kung ganyan pag-uugali nila, pano pa kaya sa pamamahay nila, kitang-kita ang kabastusan.

Simpleng no smoking in public places nga di pa masunod at sila pa ang galit pag pinagsabihan mo. Kulang na lang sabihan mo na sarilinin nila ang usok nila kung gusto nila magsunog ng baga.:ohno:

;41323648']something needs to be done sa "tulakan" sa MRT, hindi excuse na rush hour sya, nakakalungkot talaga ang ugali ng ibang mga kababayan natin :(

hindi lang "tulakan"... pati "tutukan" :lol: ...guys should get this :lol:

ano nangyari sa mga mala-airport security x-ray machines..inilagay ba lahat to sa mga stasyon? :lol:

^^ I think they're only installed in terminal stations on LRT-1. MRT-2 doesn't have them.

Jeepney bawal na sa EDSA!
Ni Doris Franche (Pilipino Star Ngayon) Updated August 17, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Wala nang atrasan ang pagpapatupad ng “phase–out“ sa lahat ng pampasaherong jeep na bumibiyahe sa kahabaan ng Edsa sa sandaling ma gawa na ang LRT 1 at MRT 3 link sa Enero 2010.

Ito ang tiniyak ni LTFRB Chairman Alberto Suansing sa ginanap na Balitaan sa Tinapayan kasabay ng pahayag na maging ang mga bus na bumibiyahe dito ay ma babawasan na rin.

Ayon kay Suansing panahon pa man ni dating Pangulong Ferdinand Marcos ay mahigpit nang ipinagbabawal ang mga pampublikong jeep sa EDSA at kapag naisara na ang “closing loop” ng LRT at MRT ay hindi na kaka ilanganin ang PUJ sa Edsa.

Sa buwan naman ng Disyembre inaasahang ipakikita sa publiko ang “dry run” ng mga tren at malamang na masa sakyan na ito ng publiko sa Enero 2010.

Gayunman, umaasa si Roberto Martin, presi dente ng Pasang Masda, na pagbibig yan pa rin ng LTFRB ang pananatili ng mga PUJ sa ilang bahagi ng EDSA partikular na ang biya heng Balinta wak-Monu*mento dahil na rin sa pub liko na na mi mili sa Balin tawak mar ket dahil bawal na mang isakay sa mga aircon dition bus ang mga “wet goods’.

Sinabi naman ni Suan sing na pag-aaralan nila ang sitwasyon bagama’t na nindigan ito na walang dapat na pumapasadang PUJ sa Edsa.

Have you guys seen this video yet?

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Finally, a nice developed underground! I hope this is the kickoff for the future of modern Manila underground.

^^ That video of MRT-7 was posted here sometime ago.

^^ cool video of MRT 7

Have you guys seen this video yet?

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Finally, a nice developed underground! I hope this is the kickoff for the future of modern Manila underground.

I think that underground rendering is for the terminal station at the north end of the line in San Jose del Monte. Other than the section at the Quezon Memorial, I don't think there will be any other significant underground portions of the line.

Jeepney bawal na sa EDSA!
Ni Doris Franche (Pilipino Star Ngayon) Updated August 17, 2009 12:00 AM


i think they were banned many many years ago...?? wala naman kasi akong nakikitang jeep sa EDSA...:dunno:
except sa may Balintawak area...

sa magallanes upto taft may mga jeepney din...

;41323648']something needs to be done sa "tulakan" sa MRT, hindi excuse na rush hour sya, nakakalungkot talaga ang ugali ng ibang mga kababayan natin :(

hindi pa masyado yan....sa japan talagang itinutulak ang mga tao sa loob ng tren para masiksik....ganun kalala sa kanila...dito sa atin ang mga masikip ay ang mga malapit sa labasan pero sa loob mismo maluwag.....pero dun sa japan willing itulak ang mga tao para sila makasakay dito...baka masuntok k ng di oras...

^^ have you been to Japan? i didn't know na ganyan pala ang sitwasyon ng tren sa kanila...

but it still is not an excuse para ipagpilitan na sapat lang ang capacity ng MRT3 trains... dapat ayusin na ng management yang problemang yan...

and, good thing i don't ride MRT3... :lol:

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Yung mga nakikita mo na parang guard na may white gloves sa Japan, yun yung trabaho nila, para itulak yung mga tao papasok ng tren.

In fact, that's where I got the technique of entering the train backwards pag siksikan na, I saw a video of a Japanese guy doing that.

Pero dun sa Japan, malamig, so di siguro mashado jinajabar mga tao, dito satin, wohoo! Amoy karpintero lang naman mga iba natin kababayan! :lol:

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This is a very nice picture :cheers:
Our old and new forms of Philippine transportation!

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Yung mga nakikita mo na parang guard na may white gloves sa Japan, yun yung trabaho nila, para itulak yung mga tao papasok ng tren.

In fact, that's where I got the technique of entering the train backwards pag siksikan na, I saw a video of a Japanese guy doing that.

Pero dun sa Japan, malamig, so di siguro mashado jinajabar mga tao, dito satin, wohoo! Amoy karpintero lang naman mga iba natin kababayan! :lol:

Ganito pag rush hour sa tokyo station

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Yung mga nakikita mo na parang guard na may white gloves sa Japan, yun yung trabaho nila, para itulak yung mga tao papasok ng tren.


Those are what you call oshiya (押し屋), or more commonly, "pushers". In fact, when the train is too full, or when passengers arrive late and try to enter the train (like when the doors are about to close), they are also called hagshiya (剥がし屋), or "pullers".

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This MRT EDSA Taft Station (blue line) needs to be upgraded since it connects to LRT Yellow line....
Does this scenario occur only during rush hour?

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we can have another MRT above the present MRT to avoid that scenario ...
a first in the world:lol:

or an undergound MRT/subway::) my dream

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^^Looks similar with the PNR DMU. Only the color are different.