Metro Manila LRT and MRT Lines - Compiled Threads [Archive] - Page 43

queetz@home

August 21st, 2009, 01:41 AM

My big banana question is what is the MRTC now doing since it's under the control of the GOP to do the original Phase 2 capacity expansion program for this lines. They were always supposed to buy coaches so what's the plan now. No more used Vienna coaches will the connection to LRT1 allow them to use a greater amount of coaches by letting LRT1 coaches coast all the way to MRT tracks if not let's get the darn coaches . All they need to do is increase the fare by Php 1 pesos and that's an extraPhp 200 million pesos a year to pay for those coaches.

If they haven't done the usual procurement process, which is always the longest part of the acquisition, it may simply be faster to wait for the LRT1 extension to reach MRT3, physically link the lines, and reallocate LRT1 trains to MRT3 if needed. The NEDA approval of the Grand Central Station did indicate "possible rail operation" between the two lines and one of the solutions to help the MRT3 line alleviate its problem is to acquire some of the older "Imelda Marcos era" coaches from LRT1 to MRT3. They can be interchanged or leased out easily as long as agreements between the MRTC and LRTA is in placed.

You don't even have to wait until the Grand Central Terminal or any of the other stations to be done. Just the guideways and trackways is needed. Even the electrical systems doesn't need to be done since a small utility locomotive can tow the needed train coaches. This can theoretically be done as early as December (when the guideways and presumably the tracks are done), which is just around the corner.

hybridace101

August 21st, 2009, 02:38 AM

kawawa ka kung ang katabi mo ay hindi nag deodorant!!

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Like I have always said, the trains used for lines 2 and 3 are in the wrong place. Poor planning. What do you think will happen if they returned the fare to what it was 10 years ago when it started?

3cr

August 21st, 2009, 04:10 AM

Gov’t to reprivatize MRT 3
Foreign groups interested in project
By Doris Dumlao
Philippine Daily Inquirer
http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20090820-221234/Govt-to-reprivatize-MRT-3

MANILA, Philippies - The government plans to reprivatize before the May 2010 elections an 80-percent stake in Metro Railway Transit 3 that was earlier acquired from private equity and bondholders through state-owned banks.

The state-owned Development Bank of the Philippines and Land Bank of the Philippines earlier accumulated equity and debt paper of Metro Railway Transit Corp. (MRTC) to obtain a controlling stake in Metro Manila’s busiest elevated railway line for about $750 million, but a significant portion of its interest was expected to be acquired by another government firm—National Development Corp.—by October this year.

“Once NDC takes it, it should be reprivatized but in a different share and form,” said DBP president Reynaldo David, who is a key architect of the MRT 3 buyout scheme.

He said MRT should be reprivatized in a way that would not be a strain to the government’s finances as the previous build-operate-transfer scheme was, which guaranteed an internal rate of return (IRR) of 15 percent a year for equity holders of the MRT 3 consortium and 11 percent a year for its bondholders.

The total project cost when MRT 3 was built about 15 years ago was $679 million, of which $190 million was funded by equity contributed by the Fil Estate, Alfredo Ramos, Unilab, Ramcar, Ayala and Edward Dy groups.

“The government was paying a substantial amount to the private group because it guaranteed the IRR. In 1994 it might have been the right thing to do because interest was way, way up,” David said.

But now that the cost of borrowing money has sharply gone down, David said the MRT 3 takeover made sense in order to realize huge cost savings. Otherwise, he said the 25-year contract would have cost more than $3 billion through 2025 as against only $989 million in projected fare box revenues from the Edsa railway.

Equity rental payments given the 15-percent IRR a year would have cost $2.4 billion while maintenance rental payments to Sumitomo of Japan would have cost $840 million through 2025.

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DBP sets Metro Rail divestment
Malaya
http://www.malaya.com.ph/aug21/busi3.htm

The Development Bank of the Philippines (DBP) yesterday said it is hoping it can fully divest its holdings in the Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC) by unloading it on the state-owned National Development Corp. (NDC) by October.

DBP president Rey David said the DBP and the Land Bank of the Philippines currently hold 80 percent of MRTC at an acquisition cost of around $750 million.

David said that NDC could issue bonds guaranteed by the national government in exchange for the shares owned by DBP and LandBank.

David added that several foreign investors are also interested in the shares if these could be sold as a block.

The Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas allowed the two government financial institutions to buy Metro Rail Transit shares in the open as long as they do not hold on to the investments long term.

The two financial institutions initially acquired a 26-percent stake last December and then increased their holdings to 56 percent as of February.

The original plan was to limit their ownership to 75 percent to minimize risk.

David said the holdings grew to 80 percent "as more MRT notes were acquired in the market."

Sources from the BSP said LandBank and DBP received the go-signal to breach their exposure limits after offering an exit mechanism, with NDC as the buyer of their shares.

NDC, in turn, plans to privatize the Metro Rail Transit shares.

Metro Rail Transit is majority owned by MRT Holdings Inc., which was originally owned by property giant Ayala Land, Anglo Philippines Holding Corp. of National Bookstore owner Alfredo Ramos, Fil-Estate Management of the Sobrepeña family, Ramcar of businessman Manuel Augustines and Greenfield Development of the Campos family.

Those who divested included Ayala Land, Anglo-Philippines, Greenfield Development, Ramcar and Goldman Sachs which took over the interest of the Fil-Estate Group.

The remaining 25 percent stake was in the form of bonds held by private creditor-banks, including Philippine Bank of Communications, Bank of Commerce and United Coconut Planters Bank.

David said the 75 percent stake in MRT-3 would qualify the two government banks in naming 14 of the 15-man MRTC board.

But he said that they have named only 7.

"Our strategy is to clean it up and fix it up for eventual resale," David earlier said.

The buyout of the MRT-3 contract from the private consortium would result in savings of $380 million for the government, based on estimates by the finance department.

The take-over and buy-out of the existing operator of MRT-3 would also relieve the government of arbitration cases over unpaid arrears filed by foreign shareholders and by the MRTC itself.

jpdm

August 21st, 2009, 04:21 AM

Manila Times

Friday, August 21, 2009

Govt to sell MRT 3 back to private sector

By Lailany P. Gomez, Reporter

AFTER buying out the contractors of the Metro Rail Transit Line 3 (MRT 3), the government plans to sell the business back to the private sector, the Department of Finance said on Thursday.

Finance Undersecretary Rosalia de Leon said MRT 3 might have to be re-privatized to beat a Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas deadline for Land Bank of the Philippines and Development Bank of the Philippines (DBP) to shed their equity stake in Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC) by October this year.

De Leon said the re-privatization of MRT 3 might have to go through the private sector route instead of the national government paying out LandBank and DBP through the issuance of bonds, or IOUs by state-owned National Development Co. (NDC).

The two state-run lenders earlier bought out the shareholders of MRTC, leaving the two banks with a combined 75-percent stake in MRT 3.

“We’re offering it to the private sector. Many have expressed interest,” de Leon said.

She, however, refused to identify the interested parties, saying, “They don’t want to be named yet.”

Despite the emergence of the re-privatization route, the bond option remains on the table, the finance official said.

“Right now we are discussing with some possible options for modality of take out including NDC and we already started discussing with DBP and LandBank,” she said.

If the “take-out” plan through the private sector pushes ahead, the government will also have to guarantee 100-percent control of the MRT 3 before turning it over to the new private sector group.

De Leon earlier said the government is eyeing a 100-percent stake in the MRT-3 to make its re-privatization easier and make the railway attractive to private buyers.

The finance official, however, said the government will have to buy MRT-3’s remaining 25 percent, which are in the form of securities held by private banks.

The remaining 25 percent in bonds are held by Philippine Bank of Communications, Bank of Commerce and United Coconut Planters Bank.

De Leon said the government would need to “take out” first the 75 percent stake of Land Bank and DBP in the MRT-3.

To avoid a costly and embarrassing international litigation arising from a case filed by the former MRT-3 owners, the government decided to step in and have the two state-owned lenders buy out the unhappy investors.

Land Bank and DBP halved the purchase cost of between $800 million and $900 million.

The government then committed to buy out the two lenders through NDC, which is supposed to issue bonds to pay off the two banks.

MRTC previously was majority owned by MRT Holdings Inc., a consortium that originally consisted of Ayala Land Inc., Anglo Philippines Holding Corp., Fil-Estate Management Inc., Ramcar Inc. and Greenfield Development Corp.

Finance Secretary Margarito Teves earlier said the takeover of the MRT-3 would “just be temporary” because it will be auctioned off to the private sector within the year.

“We will privatize this as quickly as possible,” he said.

He added that the takeover would benefit the riding public since it would improve the operations of the MRT-3 by dispatching more trains and connecting it with the LRT-1 that runs from Baclaran in Pasay to Monumento in Caloocan City.

Teves said government would spend some more to make the operations of MRT-3 more efficient and increase its current 413,000 daily ridership.

hybridace101

August 21st, 2009, 06:00 AM

Teves said government would spend some more to make the operations of MRT-3 more efficient

Yey!!!

and increase its current 413,000 daily ridership.

Boo!!!

c6josh

August 21st, 2009, 06:34 AM

Askal82

August 21st, 2009, 06:45 AM

Like I have always said, the trains used for lines 2 and 3 are in the wrong place. Poor planning. What do you think will happen if they returned the fare to what it was 10 years ago when it started?

Yeah, the capacity for line 3 wasn't planned way ahead and its fixed elevated structure allows very little flexibility in adding more lines for the same route.

There's nothing much that can be done except improve or adapt the service to such increase in demand. The long term solution for this is to build another line to decongest line 3.

hybridace101

August 21st, 2009, 07:37 AM

That's why the time you "save" from the traffic jams by riding on the system is actually not saved by the time you wait for a train and even commute or walk from the station to final destination.

I would rather have P17-34 fares returned. How was ridership like when fares were this way?

elnunal

August 21st, 2009, 08:34 AM

So can we get back to the future MRT/LRT Planning...Any new updates or pictures?

elnunal

August 21st, 2009, 08:38 AM

Ito lang ha sana maglagay man lang sila ng tram para kahit paano makatulong sa traffic at para din mapalitan o kung hindi mabawasan na yung mga jeep natin

Sky Harbor

August 21st, 2009, 11:20 AM

The government is being stupid in selling MRTC. They should just merge it with the LRTA instead so that we actually have a single rail authority. :ohno:

elnunal

August 21st, 2009, 01:46 PM

The government is being stupid in selling MRTC. They should just merge it with the LRTA instead so that we actually have a single rail authority. :ohno:

Yes this is true. Dapat talaga isa na lang para mas maayos ang planning at operation

riles28

August 21st, 2009, 04:29 PM

http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv349/rodriguez428/poster.jpg

Unveiling billboard of LRT 1 North extension Project.

riles28

August 21st, 2009, 04:34 PM

LRT 1 Have a notice for the riding public said " Simula August 15 hanggang December 15, 2009 ay Magkakaroon ng Pagka antala ang pag - alis at pagdating ng tren dahil sa konstruksyon ng North extension project" at sinabi rin na "SANDALING ABALA KAPALIT NAMAN AY PANG MATAGALAN KAGINHAWAAN"

queetz@home

August 22nd, 2009, 12:11 AM

The government is being stupid in selling MRTC. They should just merge it with the LRTA instead so that we actually have a single rail authority. :ohno:

I agree. It has to be merged and doesn't make sense to privatize it so its another stand alone line. But I guess this is why they aren't really that certain to have both MRT3 and LRT1 operate seamlessly since this idea must have been discussed behind closed doors before today.

I believe part of the PPP arrangement for LRT6 is to pretty much let the operator, for a certain period of time, "have" the existing LRT1, including the North extension, and operate it as one continuous line. They might as well include MRT3, physically connected, as part of the package so its one huge line indeed.

Its better for the public and possibly the cash strapped government, totally win win. As long as the private operator is committed and obligated to maintain it as a rail line (echos of the GM Streetcar Conspiracy does show a possible downside of such a plan).

Englehart

August 22nd, 2009, 05:57 AM

my friend took this picture at ayala station pila ito para sa ticket

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3843738799_0d3db6401b_o.jpg

daily commuter

August 22nd, 2009, 06:14 AM

http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv349/rodriguez428/poster.jpg

Unveiling billboard of LRT 1 North extension Project.

nawala yun logo ng LRTA sa hardhat PGMA

Sky Harbor

August 22nd, 2009, 07:03 AM

I have a copy of the Inquirer Libre from yesterday which supposedly shows the stations of MRT-8. I hope they are correct on that one.

cq40

August 22nd, 2009, 09:30 AM

I have a copy of the Inquirer Libre from yesterday which supposedly shows the stations of MRT-8. I hope they are correct on that one.
Post it please asap!!!

Planning Democracy

August 22nd, 2009, 10:11 AM

my friend took this picture at ayala station pila ito para sa ticket

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3843738799_0d3db6401b_o.jpg

It just goes to show how willing people are to take the MRT in spite of the inconvenience of lining up and then packing themselves like sardines in the trains.

bustero

August 22nd, 2009, 10:34 AM

^^It's just as much an indication of how "too cheap" our fares are...

Selling the MRT is not as much a matter of stupidity but neccesity , the way the share acquisition was funded was through the gov't banks. Unfortunately banks can not maintain a certain amount of their capital in equity, they are not holding companies but banks, hence it's important they follow the BSP rules on this.

The best if they sell it to LRTA then fund LRTA to buy it. If this is possible. If they wish to do so they can then privatize LRTA but they must allow fares to rise to more economic levels. It's as I said in the Cebu LRT thread, it's ridiculous for national coffers to be used for local benefit.

Wals, I hope they really do connect the lines or use the old imelda trains even if no aircon, they need to upgrade capacity in that line fast ,it's deteriorating too fast. I used it last week and even mid day it's jam packed and getting really used up.

happosai

August 22nd, 2009, 11:24 AM

my friend took this picture at ayala station pila ito para sa ticket

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3843738799_0d3db6401b_o.jpg

^^Pila po yan sa turnstile. Yan yung pila ng mga tusok tusok with the magic stick ng mga guards. :lol: Hindi nagiging ganyan kahaba ang pila sa bilihan ng ticket.

groundzero

August 22nd, 2009, 11:52 AM

I have a copy of the Inquirer Libre from yesterday which supposedly shows the stations of MRT-8. I hope they are correct on that one.

MRT-8? please post it soon! Thanks :soon:

shallwill

August 22nd, 2009, 01:30 PM

I have a copy of the Inquirer Libre from yesterday which supposedly shows the stations of MRT-8. I hope they are correct on that one.

Gusto nyo ng LIBRE news paper, visit this website anjan yung MRT-8 na hinahanap nyo....:)

http://www.libre.com.ph/libre-editions/libre-today/1705-todays-libre-august-21-2009

stiggerpao

August 22nd, 2009, 02:25 PM

in response to the message above.. (taken from Libre last friday)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3706/phrailnetworkup.jpg

stanleymalls

August 22nd, 2009, 02:35 PM

^^ Thanks! Kahit papano ay nabigyan nila tayo kung ano ba ang nakatakdang mangyari sa mga transportation issues natin dito sa MM.

stiggerpao

August 22nd, 2009, 02:47 PM

uu nga naman.. maigi nang pinakita na nila yung rail network plans..
kaso kelan pa kaya matatapos lahat yan..
lalo na yung Line 1 south extension.. :?

wala pala dyan yung Line 4 at 5..

cq40

August 22nd, 2009, 03:24 PM

in response to the message above.. (taken from Libre last friday)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3706/phrailnetworkup.jpg
1. Lol @ 3 SM North EDSA Stations.
2. Wow ang layo ng span ng MRT Line-8, from Sta Mesa Manila to Angono Rizal!
3. Line 4 is not there, definitely shelved?
4. Line 5 is not there too but i believe it's the Metro Manila section of the North Rail.

Thanks for posting this wonderful photo! I love it.

Kung ako masusunod, MRT-4 will traverse C-5.

adgaps

August 22nd, 2009, 03:52 PM

in_a_rush

August 22nd, 2009, 04:12 PM

1. Lol @ 3 SM North EDSA Stations.
2. Wow ang layo ng span ng MRT Line-8, from Sta Mesa Manila to Angono Rizal!
3. Line 4 is not there, definitely shelved?
4. Line 5 is not there too but i believe it's the Metro Manila section of the North Rail.

Thanks for posting this wonderful photo! I love it.

Kung ako masusunod, MRT-4 will traverse C-5.

Line 4 is now Line 9 diba???? buhay pa pala yung project na yun. akala ko tuluyan ng nakalimutan. goodnews pa den!

mr.suroy

August 22nd, 2009, 04:14 PM

1. Lol @ 3 SM North EDSA Stations.
2. Wow ang layo ng span ng MRT Line-8, from Sta Mesa Manila to Angono Rizal!
3. Line 4 is not there, definitely shelved?
4. Line 5 is not there too but i believe it's the Metro Manila section of the North Rail.

Thanks for posting this wonderful photo! I love it.

Kung ako masusunod, MRT-4 will traverse C-5.

i think the line 4 is the line 9 in the picture. pero parallel mula quezon city circle to batasan? sana iliko naman nila pa-valenzuela or pa-libis..

Planning Democracy

August 22nd, 2009, 04:21 PM

in response to the message above.. (taken from Libre last friday)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3706/phrailnetworkup.jpg

So this MRT-7 and MRT-9 will be running parallel to each other along Commonwealth?? :nuts:

cq40

August 22nd, 2009, 06:22 PM

wow naman!! ayos talaga ang SRTS ah!! :banana::banana::banana::banana:

at least now we know na desidido na ang gobyerno na gawin yang mga lines na yan...

EDIT: there's a line traversing the supposed LRT4 route, going through Espana... that's good news! :banana:

Line 4 is now Line 9 diba???? buhay pa pala yung project na yun. akala ko tuluyan ng nakalimutan. goodnews pa den!

i think the line 4 is the line 9 in the picture. pero parallel mula quezon city circle to batasan? sana iliko naman nila pa-valenzuela or pa-libis..

So this MRT-7 and MRT-9 will be running parallel to each other along Commonwealth?? :nuts:

Yeah, but it's obviously Line-9 now. So where's Line-4? Anyway, i don't mind the names, what matters is the Progress!! So many lines, so beautiful! I love it! :cheers:

evilgenius15

August 22nd, 2009, 07:40 PM

in response to the message above.. (taken from Libre last friday)

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3706/phrailnetworkup.jpg

parang hindi feasible ipagtabi ang dalawang rail transits :nuts:
unless magsshare sila ng railways, hehehe...
maglalagay din kaya sila ng LRT/MRT along C5 in the future?
mukhang mahabamahaba din ittraverse nun kapag nangyari

Askal82

August 23rd, 2009, 01:39 AM

^^ The way I see it is that the other line seems to have fewer stops and are farther apart before all three lines meet. It could be an express line. The passenger can have two options - take the local line if his intended destination is near the stops on the local line or take the express if he wants to bypass the stations that the local line passes through in order to get to his final stop a lot faster.

Sky Harbor

August 23rd, 2009, 04:22 AM

^^ I would still like it though if either MRT-7 and MRT-9 merge, or the change the alignment so that it does not cross through Commonwealth.

hybridace101

August 23rd, 2009, 05:29 AM

parang hindi feasible ipagtabi ang dalawang rail transits :nuts:
unless magsshare sila ng railways, hehehe...
maglalagay din kaya sila ng LRT/MRT along C5 in the future?
mukhang mahabamahaba din ittraverse nun kapag nangyari

With that map, a station that needs an "interchange" will be Ayala. For one, a reason why Line 3's station is congested is that it is the only line serving the area frequented by office workers and shoppers alike.

han742

August 23rd, 2009, 09:54 AM

Hindi pa man tapos ang pylons eh ginagawa na ang tulay na dadaanan ng tren sa EDSA-Cloverleaf Interchange...

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2613/034xdc.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8072/035nyb.jpg

:banana::banana::banana:

manchowyin

August 23rd, 2009, 10:30 AM

han742

August 23rd, 2009, 11:03 AM

UPDATES LRT 1-NEP... 23 Aug '09
Balintawak Area...
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the underpass project on the left by MMDA...
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8753/020aqp.jpg

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Bagong Barrio area... (shot from Katipunan Footbridge)
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still in BB (i forgot the name of that footbridge next to Katipunan)...

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:banana: :banana:

najih22

August 23rd, 2009, 11:13 AM

this project never fails to amaze us by the speed of its construction.

...hope the administrations we will have will always think of the legacy it can give to the people; para madaming projects at speedy ang construction.hehe....

evilgenius15

August 23rd, 2009, 11:15 AM

pi_malejana

August 23rd, 2009, 11:22 AM

haha, been a while han...:D thanks...:okay::applause:

UPDATES LRT 1-NEP... 23 Aug '09
Balintawak Area...
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/726/001sci.jpg

now i wonder how this post(s) will affect traffic once done... almost isang lane ba ang kinain nito??:)

:cheers:

han742

August 23rd, 2009, 11:23 AM

haha, been a while han...:D thanks...:okay::applause:

now i wonder how this post(s) will affect traffic once done... almost isang lane ba ang kinain nito??:)

:cheers:

oo nga, matagal tagal na rin,:) i don't know kung permanent na ba itong bakal na nasa gitna ng EDSA or temporaray lang din, kasi medyo may kalakihan ang sahig na ginagawa sa ibabaw nito, anyway di pa ako tapos...

Monumento Area...
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the curve...
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:banana: :banana:

happosai

August 23rd, 2009, 11:31 AM

Hindi pa man tapos ang pylons eh ginagawa na ang tulay na dadaanan ng tren sa EDSA-Cloverleaf Interchange...
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/2613/034xdc.jpg

^^Han!!! Na miss ka namin sa thread na ito!!! :banana:
Bakit pala parang ang layo ng pinag aaselbolan nyan? Bat di na lang sa ibabaw ng clover leaf ginawa? Di kaya para sa station ng balintawak yan?

happosai

August 23rd, 2009, 11:45 AM

now i wonder how this post(s) will affect traffic once done... almost isang lane ba ang kinain nito??:)

:cheers:

^^Sa tingin ko temporary lang yan hanggat di pa nabubuo yung buong span papunta sa side ng EDSA.

han742

August 23rd, 2009, 11:46 AM

^^Han!!! Na miss ka namin sa thread na ito!!! :banana:
Bakit pala parang ang layo ng pinag aaselbolan nyan? Bat di na lang sa ibabaw ng clover leaf ginawa? Di kaya para sa station ng balintawak yan?

salamat naman kung ganun:cheers:, hindi siguro ito sa Balintawak Station, kasi kung titignan mong mabuti ang ginagawa sa Station eh may support na bakal sa ilalim at mukhang buhos ng semento gagawin dito, makipot kasi sa ibabaw ng tulay ng Cloverleaf kaya hindi ito dito inassemble, :)

shot from Kaingin Footbridge...

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:banana: :banana: :banana:

happosai

August 23rd, 2009, 11:51 AM

^^Han.. Anu sa tingin mo plano ng LRTA dyan? Ballastless track or with ballast pa rin parang sa original na LRT1?

han742

August 23rd, 2009, 11:55 AM

^^Han.. Anu sa tingin mo plano ng LRTA dyan? Ballastless track or with ballast pa rin parang sa original na LRT1?

hindi ko alam eh, pero kung titignan mo yung tulay na bakal may mga nakaabang na maliliit na bakal na parang sesementuhan din,

happosai

August 23rd, 2009, 12:09 PM

han742

August 23rd, 2009, 12:14 PM

^^Tignan mo yung dadaanan ng riles, smooth na smooth walang naka abang na rebars. Kung ballastless yan may mga naka abang na rebars na dapat yan.

di ko alam, ang alam ko kasing ballast yung sa fluorescent lang,:lol: sorry po,:) heto na last update ko...

shot from Muñoz Footbridge...

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parang mga sundalong nakahanda na sa... Roosevelt Station, :)

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sukat talaga...

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9197/092vsf.jpg

:banana: :banana: :banana:

happosai

August 23rd, 2009, 12:21 PM

^^Tang galing!! :banana2: Parang niruler lang.. :banana:

di ko alam, ang alam ko kasing ballast yung sa fluorescent lang,:lol: sorry po,:) heto na last update ko...

^^Ahehehe.. Ballast yung mga bato bato na nakalagay sa riles. Parang sa MRT, pag at-grade sya naka ballast sya pero pag elevated ballastless.

Sana i-ballastless na lang nila yan para less maintenance.

han742

August 23rd, 2009, 12:27 PM

^^Tang galing!! :banana2: Parang niruler lang.. :banana:

^^Ahehehe.. Ballast yung mga bato bato na nakalagay sa riles. Parang sa MRT, pag at-grade sya naka ballast sya pero pag elevated ballastless.

Sana i-ballastless na lang nila yan para less maintenance.

may mga pros and cons din yang mga ballast na yan kaya nila ginagamit pero mas mahalaga pa rin sa 'kin yung tren na idadaan dito,:)

happosai

August 23rd, 2009, 12:49 PM

^^Magdadagdag kaya sila ng LRV para sa project na yan?

adgaps

August 23rd, 2009, 01:46 PM

^^Han!!! Na miss ka namin sa thread na ito!!! :banana:
Bakit pala parang ang layo ng pinag aaselbolan nyan? Bat di na lang sa ibabaw ng clover leaf ginawa? Di kaya para sa station ng balintawak yan?

^^ mas masikip po kasi ang part na yun ng EDSA... lalonbg titindi ang trapik kapag sa part na yun nila ginawa yang tulay... :)

btw, bakit ba kelangang i-ballast ang riles? i'm just wondering...

barrera_marquez

August 23rd, 2009, 02:35 PM

han742

August 23rd, 2009, 03:21 PM

^^thanks bro, ganun na pala ako katagal hindi nagpost dito, nakalimutan ko na name ng footbridge,:)

shyaman

August 23rd, 2009, 03:50 PM

^^Tignan mo yung dadaanan ng riles, smooth na smooth walang naka abang na rebars. Kung ballastless yan may mga naka abang na rebars na dapat yan. Malamang may ballast yan. Hmmm... Kung may ballast yan. Gagamitan din ba yan ng Plasser & Theurer lifting and tamping machine?

Yung existing line ng LRT1 sa tingin ko kailangan na syang i-tamper medyo loosen na ang mga ballast. Kaya maalog na ang takbo ng tren.

Enlighten me on this. Do you mean that if the rail track has ballast, the sleepers will be resting on top of the ballast thus there is no need to fix them to the concrete slab or girders?

chris_nigel

August 23rd, 2009, 04:14 PM

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9197/092vsf.jpg

ang galing naman ng shot na to...thanks han for another job well done

Planning Democracy

August 23rd, 2009, 04:51 PM

^^ I would still like it though if either MRT-7 and MRT-9 merge, or the change the alignment so that it does not cross through Commonwealth.

MRT-7 has certain portions where they are parallel to each other, I just don't know where the two separate, weird, but it doesn't really matter, the more trains the better.

What I'd like to see in the immediate future is the extension of LRT-2 to Cogeo, the jeeps in the Santolan station are causing a lot of traffic.

edly

August 23rd, 2009, 05:00 PM

the curve...
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:cheers: Wow! Ang ganda ng curve. Alam na nating di mahahagip si Bonifacio ng LRT-NEP! Thanks Han for a job well done! :banana:

happosai

August 23rd, 2009, 05:29 PM

Enlighten me on this. Do you mean that if the rail track has ballast, the sleepers will be resting on top of the ballast thus there is no need to fix them to the concrete slab or girders?

^^nakapatong lang ang ties sa ballast kaya kailangan itong lagi itong minemaintain ng tampering machine para laging compact ang ballast para ma prevent ang pumping motion. Para di kumakalog ang tren.

Planning Democracy

August 23rd, 2009, 05:41 PM

Did some research on the schedule (http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/proj_l2eastex.htm) of the LRT2 line extension :

The project involves the construction of approximately 4-km eastern extension of MRT Line 2 from its current terminus in Santolan to the Masinag Market in Antipolo along the centerline of Marcos Highway with the same design parameters as the original MRT Line 2. Only two stations will be constructed: 1) the MC Station straddling Imelda Avenue and adjoining Robinson's East Mall and the Sta. Lucia East Mall in Cainta and 2) the Silangan Station near the Masinag Market at the crossroad of Marcos and Sumulong Highways.
PROJECT LOCATION:

Santolan, Pasig City to Masinag, Antipolo City
TARGET COMPLETION DATE:

Phase 1: 2011

For the MRT 7 (http://www.ulc.com.ph/Schedule.html) meanwhile:

Project Schedule

Complete Swiss Challenge June, 2007
Project Awarding January 2008
Contract Signing June 2008
Financial Closing December, 2009
Commencement of MRT-7 construction January, 2010
Start of Real Estate Construction July, 2011
Rail Project Completion July 2013

happosai

August 23rd, 2009, 05:56 PM

^^di ba i-extend yan papuntang divisoria?

ionmarx

August 23rd, 2009, 06:13 PM

the curve...
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2015/059ewg.jpg

Would this mean na yung extra na lumang riles ididismantle rin nila? For aesthetical purposes shempre :)

leechtat

August 23rd, 2009, 07:00 PM

bravo @han742 :applause:

thanks for the updates.. i love the fast rate of construction of this project, sana lahat ng infra projects ganito kabilis..

yom

August 23rd, 2009, 07:41 PM

queetz@home

August 23rd, 2009, 08:03 PM

Attention people, Malvar station has not yet commenced construction. According to the LRTA website, they are still preparing the feasibility study. Gaano ba katagal ang feasibility study at sa oras na matapos ba ito construction na ang susunod?

By the way, the next footbridge after Katipunan is Gen. Tirona.

Yep, kanun talaga katagal ang feasibilty studies. And believe me, you are quite lucky since you got Presidential backing so don't worry about it. Malvar station will get done.

Feasibility studies is the longest part of any process of putting up a rail rapid transit line, even though I know for certainty half the forumers here can get the job done properly and instantenously if given the chance. Frankly, I believe the process is just a conspiracy to line up the pockets of those "experts" and "consultants", who essentially just copy and paste their documentation from already done up "studies" elsewhere.

In the Vancouver area, the Evergreen Line extension has been studied for the past 20 years, and given the politics going on here and the cash crunch of the local transit agency due to a f*ck up similar to the MRTC PPP fiasco, it will probably still be in feasibility studies for the next 40 years. If only we had PGMA running our province, we'd have more progress in the critical areas of our metro region like what's happening back home...

Nice progress of the LRT1 extension btw. Be nice to see some additional progress to the connecting areas like Monumento and Trinoma...heh

groundzero

August 23rd, 2009, 09:36 PM

Thanks to all who gave updates!

Anyway, how is the proposal of MRT3 to buy 73 new trains going? Nasa news to last year... grabe naman kapag hanggang ngayon wala pang movement ang plan.....

here:
MRT3 wants new trains for better service
abs-cbnnews.com | 07/09/2008 9:08 AM

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The management of the state-run Metro Rail Transit 3 (MRT3) has requested funds to buy new trains following the surge in passenger traffic.

Lysa Blancaflor, MRT3 spokeswoman, said that they are requesting funds from the National Economic and Development Authority for the purchase of 73 new cars.

The new trains, Blancaflor said, will replace 20 old trains that are servicing MRT3 trips from North Avenue-Taft Avenue and vice-versa.

She said that MRT3 management hopes that NEDA will release the funds soon so that the agency can provide fast and efficient service to hundreds of thousands of passengers each day.

Blancaflor added that by buying new trains, the agency would be able to cut down on service and maintenance costs.

As of end-May 2008, MRT3 trains collectively had an average of 506,000 passengers during peak days. The highest number was recorded on April 18 at 523,803 passengers.

During the same period last year, MRT3 trains took an average of 466,000 on peak days, with the highest being recorded on Jan. 12, 2007 at 475,193.

kalbongdad

August 24th, 2009, 02:45 AM

malamang wala pang mangyayari dyan baka questionin na naman ng opposition na meron corruption at magtagal pa yan....:bash:

shyaman

August 24th, 2009, 03:36 AM

^^nakapatong lang ang ties sa ballast kaya kailangan itong lagi itong minemaintain ng tampering machine para laging compact ang ballast para ma prevent ang pumping motion. Para di kumakalog ang tren.

Thanks...

With regards to compaction, I don't think further tamping will do much help. Ballasts don't have high compaction properties like soil or fine sand because of its irregular shape and aggregate size (may be 25mm to 50mm across). There will always be void spaces between aggregate particles and no compaction can reduce these void spaces once the aggregate reached its maximum compaction density. Thus once it's compacted and attained the required density, no amount of further compaction will make a difference.

Just a thought actually, train vibration actually helps to further the settlement of ballast especially in a confined area. It's a natural property of aggregates (be it fine or coarse) to evenly settle across when subject to vibration (imagine putting rice in a bowl and do a quick continuous sideways movement of the bowl like sieving).

There will be disturbance to the required ballast elevation and cross sectional configuration due to train movement vibration if the track bed is on ground because there is a tendency for the subgrade (below the ballast) to settle further (especially when not compacted properly) or the layer of ballast to spread further sideways. If such scenario happens, then there is a need to replace and/or reconfigure the ballast layer after resolving the subgrade issue (if there is one). And for sure, that's when you will need another round of compaction using the ballast tamping machine.

But for an elevated rail, the aggregate is spread to the confines of the viaduct and no further spreading may occur, and there is no subgrade to worry that will settle further.

happosai

August 24th, 2009, 03:45 AM

^^Very educational. Thanks shyaman.. :banana:

Would this mean na yung extra na lumang riles ididismantle rin nila? For aesthetical purposes shempre :)

^^Malabong alisin yan. Kailan pa naging sensitive ang gobyerno pag dating sa mga aesthetic ng mga infrastructure nito? Baka gawin depot yan ng mga skip train

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9326/011enb.jpg

Mis ko na tong ganitong eksena ng mga walang desiplinang driver gaya ng taxi na to na nagsasakay sa gitna, EDSA pa naman yan. Asar na asar ako nyan pag naiipit ako ng ganyan, hahahaha. Yan ang ugaling matagal pa siguro mawala sa mga driver sa ating bayan.:bash:

^^Hahaha... Kung pison lang dina drive ko sinagasaan ko na yan.. :nuts:

wheel of steel

August 24th, 2009, 05:21 AM

MRT-7 has certain portions where they are parallel to each other, I just don't know where the two separate, weird, but it doesn't really matter, the more trains the better.

What I'd like to see in the immediate future is the extension of LRT-2 to Cogeo, the jeeps in the Santolan station are causing a lot of traffic.

No, it's not weird. We can't combine the two. It's because the feasibility study of the projects that shows why can't combine a separate line.

Bosnyboy

August 24th, 2009, 07:59 AM

barrera_marquez

August 24th, 2009, 03:53 PM

Yep, kanun talaga katagal ang feasibilty studies. And believe me, you are quite lucky since you got Presidential backing so don't worry about it. Malvar station will get done.

Feasibility studies is the longest part of any process of putting up a rail rapid transit line, even though I know for certainty half the forumers here can get the job done properly and instantenously if given the chance. Frankly, I believe the process is just a conspiracy to line up the pockets of those "experts" and "consultants", who essentially just copy and paste their documentation from already done up "studies" elsewhere.

In the Vancouver area, the Evergreen Line extension has been studied for the past 20 years, and given the politics going on here and the cash crunch of the local transit agency due to a f*ck up similar to the MRTC PPP fiasco, it will probably still be in feasibility studies for the next 40 years. If only we had PGMA running our province, we'd have more progress in the critical areas of our metro region like what's happening back home...

Nice progress of the LRT1 extension btw. Be nice to see some additional progress to the connecting areas like Monumento and Trinoma...heh

Wow, thanks for the informative explanation.

kalbongdad

August 25th, 2009, 06:15 AM

buti pa si queetz@home ....appreciated si pgma.....dito sa pinas hindi makita ang mga projects nya kahit dambuhala na ang mga ito.....anyway sana ma appreciate din natin....hirap kaya maging presidente sa mga pasaway na pinoy....:lol:

mr.suroy

August 25th, 2009, 06:35 AM

hindi ba profitable ang mrt3? i mean syempre nagbabayad yung mga tao, plus mga advertisments, saan pumupunta yung bayad? sa pagbayad ba ng utang?
bakit hindi gamitin yung pera sa pagbili ng bagong trains tapos ipostpone na lang yung debt-servicing kasi mas mataas yung R-O-I pag mas madami na yung trains? wala bang ganung study?

isa pa, hindi ba nag chi-cheer yung mga namamahala ng mrt3 pag kumikita sila? kasi parang wala namang balita sa mga dyaryo o tv na "MRT 3 profit soars XX% to PHP XXX million"..

Fraulein

August 25th, 2009, 06:43 AM

Hi!

Meron po bang rendition o design mga stations na itatayo sa LRT North Extension?

RonnieR

August 25th, 2009, 07:58 AM

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/MRT3.jpg

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/MRT3ride.jpg

my MRT ride from Shang to Ayala. Comfortable ride, very fast.

c6josh

August 25th, 2009, 08:13 AM

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/MRT3.jpg

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/MRT3ride.jpg

my MRT ride from Shang to Ayala. Comfortable ride, very fast.

yeah it's comfortable when it's not rush hour...try riding during the busy hour it will be an experience you'd never forget.:)

c6josh

August 25th, 2009, 08:16 AM

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/9197/092vsf.jpg

ang galing naman ng shot na to...thanks han for another job well done

the pink bridges are everywhere...sana naman they would place them where it is not an eyesore and also with a roof on top so it won't be difficult when it rains, they should also install more overhead lightings.

absinthe_888

August 25th, 2009, 08:22 AM

Han, maraming salamat sa mga updates mo, matagal kang nawala ngunit sa inyong pagbabalik ang nagbaon ka ng napakagandang mga larawan sa extension project :okay:

Tanong ko lang, anu po ito, naglalakad lang kayo?

RonnieR

August 25th, 2009, 08:23 AM

yeah it's comfortable when it's not rush hour...try riding during the busy hour it will be an experience you'd never forget.:)
:lol::lol: i don't want.

RonnieR

August 25th, 2009, 08:29 AM

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/6594/087puy.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8892/089e.jpg

:banana: :banana: :banana:

very nice update! Thanks:cheers:

c6josh

August 25th, 2009, 08:30 AM

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9326/011enb.jpg

Mis ko na tong ganitong eksena ng mga walang desiplinang driver gaya ng taxi na to na nagsasakay sa gitna, EDSA pa naman yan. Asar na asar ako nyan pag naiipit ako ng ganyan, hahahaha. Yan ang ugaling matagal pa siguro mawala sa mga driver sa ating bayan.:bash:

sa picture palang makikita mo na ang pagkawalan nang disiplina nang mga driver, kahit saan na lang papara kahit yung malalaking bus at dito mo rin makikita ang dumi nang hagin galing sa mga sasakyan.

jefflacs

August 25th, 2009, 08:46 AM

the pink bridges are everywhere...sana naman they would place them where it is not an eyesore and also with a roof on top so it won't be difficult when it rains, they should also install more overhead lightings.

mahirap kasi kapag may bubong, based on experience, nagiging pugad sia ng magnanakaw kaya mabuti na din na wala at least open at kita kaagad. Yung nga lang problem pag biglang umulan

-SNPKLSDMBLDR-

August 25th, 2009, 08:56 AM

repost ko lang dito.

Goodbye EVER... Hello SM Caloocan!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SM/96_gr_SM_Caloocan-Exterior_Rotunda_.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SM/96_gr_SM_Caloocan-Pylon.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SM/96_gr_SM_Caloocan-Facade_1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SM/96_gr_SM_Caloocan-Sidewalk_2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/mbassy2003/SM/96_gr_SM_Caloocan-Third_Floor.jpg

...nakaka-aliw yung mag ina na naglalakad in the perspectives... the image is so realistic in that area... :lol:

Source: Point Design Inc.

at least mababawasan ang eyesore sa closing loop ng MRT/LRT sa caloocan :lol:

chris_nigel

August 25th, 2009, 10:18 AM

tama ka sana simulan na sya ASAP

Jrommel

August 25th, 2009, 10:37 AM

ayos..kelan kaya sisimulan?

najih22

August 25th, 2009, 04:35 PM

the pink bridges are everywhere...sana naman they would place them where it is not an eyesore and also with a roof on top so it won't be difficult when it rains, they should also install more overhead lightings.

why call it an eyesore? and where should you put it if you really believe it is an eyesore?

maybe for now, before dreaming of 1st-world-country-looking footbridges, we should be thankful that they have been building these across MM. in some way, footbridges have saved lives and improved, even a bit, the traffic situation.

FlashCollider

August 25th, 2009, 09:43 PM

FlashCollider

August 25th, 2009, 09:47 PM

repost ko lang dito.

at least mababawasan ang eyesore sa closing loop ng MRT/LRT sa caloocan :lol:

sana bago nila simulan to eh palakihan pa nilang mabuti ang monumento circle tapos saka sila magtayo ng building. pero dapat mababa lang ang structure ng sm para open space pa rin ang dating ng monumento. kaso nandyan na ang mrt loop at magtatayo na ang sm ng mall. sana lang lagyan ng mataas na pedestrian rails ang tabi ng lansangan para wala ng magkalat na pedestian sa mismong daan at sana magtanim ng puno ang sm sa harapan nila ng magkaroon ng greenery sa paligid ng monumento.(Tindi ng request ko hehehehe)

FlashCollider

August 25th, 2009, 09:52 PM

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/MRT3.jpg

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/MRT3ride.jpg

my MRT ride from Shang to Ayala. Comfortable ride, very fast.

Last time na nasa pinas ako, laging MRT ang kaagapay ko sa byahe yun nga lang laging iwas sa rush hour dahil sa sobrang dami ng taong nagamit ng MRT. Nagdrive ako minsan pero muntik na akong malintikan at nasanay na ako sa Lefthand Drive dito sa kinalalagyan ko, ayun pasahero na lang talaga ako unless nasa labas na ako ng maynila madali ng magadapt ulit sa righthand drive.

Disclaimer: Pasensya na sa madaming quote meron palang multiquote features dito.

happosai

August 26th, 2009, 05:27 AM

at least mababawasan ang eyesore sa closing loop ng MRT/LRT sa caloocan :lol:

Mag click kaya yan sa mga pasahero ng LRT? Kasi kung bababa ka ng Monumento station. Ang layo pa ng lalakarin mo papunta dyan sa Ever Gotesco area. Sana pati Grand Central binili na rin ng SM para SM Grand Central. :lol:

elnunal

August 26th, 2009, 05:53 AM

So ano na mangyayari sa mga plano sa future LRT/MRT line ... Saka matutuloy ba yung MRT 9 kasi kung sakali marami ang makikinabang noon at isa na ko doon

kaboomerangle

August 26th, 2009, 07:24 AM

I believe there was someone who asked before about a possible extension of Line 2 to Divisoria. I got this response via email from the PR office of LRTA about it:

"Relative to your inquiry on a planned west extension to Divisoria, we are pleased to inform you that there is an on going feasibility study on the LRT Line 2 Extension to Divisoria. This has been undertaken simultaneously with the East Extension feasibility study. We hope to pursue this extension line projects even after the current administration's term is over, in fulfillment of our mandate of deceongesting Metro Manila's traffic."

let's keep our fingers crossed and hope to see it become a reality :)

RonnieR

August 26th, 2009, 07:55 AM

pinkdoraemon

August 26th, 2009, 10:37 AM

pinkdoraemon

August 26th, 2009, 10:43 AM

Sana bumili sila ng bagong trains from Bombardier.

elnunal

August 26th, 2009, 12:48 PM

Sana bumili sila ng bagong trains from Bombardier.

Ano ba ang itsura ng mga trains ng Bombardier...Pede bang pakita ka naman ng mga pictures saka pakisabi na rin kung alin yung pinakaokay na gawing train natin

Mojacko

August 26th, 2009, 02:04 PM

I believe there was someone who asked before about a possible extension of Line 2 to Divisoria.

It was me who voiced that idea (at least here on SkyscraperCity), some time ago - in a now-archived section of the Philippine Railways thread series. I may or may not have been the first to do so, however; I'm not sure. I am glad, however, that someone relayed that idea to the LRTA's PR office.

I got this response via email from the PR office of LRTA about it:

"Relative to your inquiry on a planned west extension to Divisoria, we are pleased to inform you that there is an on going feasibility study on the LRT Line 2 Extension to Divisoria. This has been undertaken simultaneously with the East Extension feasibility study. We hope to pursue this extension line projects even after the current administration's term is over, in fulfillment of our mandate of deceongesting Metro Manila's traffic."

One (hopefully) useful purpose of extending the Purple LRT (a.k.a. LRT 2) line to Divisoria is to create an (almost) seamless connection between that line and the PNR: between "Tutuban-Divisoria Station" (tentative name), via a walkway connecting the station with Tutuban Centermall, then another walkway connecting that with the Tutuban PNR Terminal.

Any inputs and thoughts on this?

let's keep our fingers crossed and hope to see it become a reality :)

While I too am keeping my fingers crossed on this idea materializing, I am aware that, obviously, before the work on building it can even begin, the plan has to meet the approval of all managing bodies concerned: the LRTA, the PNR, the Tutuban Centermall management, the DOTC, the DPWH, and of course, Government bodies: both the City of Manila AND the President (who definitely has the final say).

shyaman

August 26th, 2009, 03:06 PM

sana bago nila simulan to eh palakihan pa nilang mabuti ang monumento circle tapos saka sila magtayo ng building. pero dapat mababa lang ang structure ng sm para open space pa rin ang dating ng monumento. kaso nandyan na ang mrt loop at magtatayo na ang sm ng mall. sana lang lagyan ng mataas na pedestrian rails ang tabi ng lansangan para wala ng magkalat na pedestian sa mismong daan at sana magtanim ng puno ang sm sa harapan nila ng magkaroon ng greenery sa paligid ng monumento.(Tindi ng request ko hehehehe)

SM Caloocan is not a new building. It's the former and now closed Ever Department Store that will undergo a total facelift and refurb. It's good SM developed that side of Monumento, giving the place a refreshing touch (based on the render).

I think the monumento circle is already wide, it's 4 lanes if I'm not mistaken. What makes it look tight is the driving pattern of vehicles round the circle. Most of the drivers really don't have the idea on how to negotiate the roundabout, like who has the right of way. Kaya sala-salansan lagi ang mga sasakyan dyan sa loob dahil kadalasan walang bigayan... a typical street scene in Metro Manila especially during rush hours. :D

Expansion or widening is also not an option. Currently, the set back on 3 quarters of the circle's perimeter is just wide enough for the pedestrian sidewalk especially that portion between EDSA and McArthur Highway, sobrang kitid. On the other hand, the side between Rizal Ave and EDSA which is where the LRT1 extension passes through is a lot wider. Buti na lang malapad sa banda dyan kaya kahit may LRT sa taas di masyadong constricted.

FlashCollider

August 26th, 2009, 10:05 PM

SM Caloocan is not a new building. It's the former and now closed Ever Department Store that will undergo a total facelift and refurb. It's good SM developed that side of Monumento, giving the place a refreshing touch (based on the render).

I think the monumento circle is already wide, it's 4 lanes if I'm not mistaken. What makes it look tight is the driving pattern of vehicles round the circle. Most of the drivers really don't have the idea on how to negotiate the roundabout, like who has the right of way. Kaya sala-salansan lagi ang mga sasakyan dyan sa loob dahil kadalasan walang bigayan... a typical street scene in Metro Manila especially during rush hours. :D

Expansion or widening is also not an option. Currently, the set back on 3 quarters of the circle's perimeter is just wide enough for the pedestrian sidewalk especially that portion between EDSA and McArthur Highway, sobrang kitid. On the other hand, the side between Rizal Ave and EDSA which is where the LRT1 extension passes through is a lot wider. Buti na lang malapad sa banda dyan kaya kahit may LRT sa taas di masyadong constricted.

Ganun ba akala ko gagawa ng bagong building. Sana nga bilin din nila ang central at yung nasa edsa side para gawa nalang sila ng underpass pwede na. bawas panigurado ang pedestrian volume sa monumento periphery.

shyaman

August 27th, 2009, 12:05 AM

^^ O.T.: Once SM opened, I hope the owner of Ever Gotesco Grand Central will be compelled to upgrade its mall to at least retain its present shoppers. Most shoppers will eventually bypass the mall in favor of nearby SM. If its current client will dwindle and can't cope with competition, the best option for Grand Central is to relegate it into a bargain mall like Tutuban.

Para di gaanong OT :D: A large chunk of Grand Central's customers are transit passengers to and from LRT. I believe this is the primary reason why the mall was built there in the first place which was a wise move by the developer.

ruralvillage

August 27th, 2009, 01:36 AM

MRT sets $60-m refleeting, expands use of cash cards (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideMetro.htm?f=/2009/august/26/metro1.isx&d=2009/august/26)
Manila Standard (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideMetro.htm?f=/2009/august/26/metro1.isx&d=2009/august/26)
by Eileen A. Mencias

With government taking control of Metro Rail Transit Corp., the MRT 3 operator is buying 21 new coaches on a $60-million budget to beef up the fleet even as the use of cash cards will be expanded to six stations.

Sources from the Development Bank of the Philippines said they are now in the process of bidding out the supply contract to increase the train set from three to four coaches.

In a briefing last week, DBP president Reynaldo David said the move was to increase the number of trip during peak hours.

DBP sources said they have budgeted $60 million for the supply of the new coaches.

In a radio interview yesterday morning, MRT general manager Reynaldo Berroya said the expansion should upgrade the frequency of the trips from three to four minutes to around two minutes between trips.

DBP together with Land Bank of the Philippines took control of MRTC earlier this year, buying up the shares from one shareholder to another until they seized control of all board seats.

The Yuchengco-controlled Rizal Commercial Banking Corp. is in talks with Bancnet, the country’s largest automated teller machine consortium, to expand usage of cash cards in the MRT, RCBC executive vice president Ismael Sandig told reporters in a briefing yesterday.

He said only RCBC has an existing arrangement with MRT that allows it to use its MyWallet Cash Card as an MRT Card that pays for the fare in the railway system.

Most MRT passengers buy their cards from the booths available in the stations be they stored value cards or one-way tickets.

Sandig said the MyWallet Cash Card and the Ayala’s Globe Telecom are options for the train fare.

“We will be their gateway to the MRT,” Sandig said adding that the potential for the card was huge with the coverage of over 40 member banks.

While only two MRT stations (Edsa-Taft and North Edsa) accept My Wallet Cash Cards at present, Sandig said four more stations would start doing so next month—Ayala Avenue, Shaw Blvd., Cubao and Quezon Avenue.

By the end of the year, he said all MRT stations would accept the RCBC My Wallet Cash Cards to pay for the fare.

Aside from the use in the MRT, Sandig said the cards can also be used to pay the fees at the Batangas Port for the Roll-On-Roll-Off System and talks to allow the cards to be used to pay for the EC Tag at the North Luzon Expressway and the e-Pass at the South Luzon Expressway are now in the offing.

RCBC introduced the MyWallet in the first quarter of 2008 and launched it formally in August 2008. At present, there are over 750,000 MyWallet cash cards, a 26-percent growth from a year ago.

Sandig said the target is to issue one million cards by December.

David said control of MRT was necessary for government to hasten expansion and improvements in the country’s largest railway system that ferries close to 500,000 passengers a day.

MRT 3 was built under the department’s $679-million build-lease-transfer scheme in 1994 but has proven to be very costly for government as the project was financed largely through loans with government guaranteeing the proponents an annual return of 15 percent per annum.

DBP and Land Bank had to shed equity holdings accounting for 22-percent interest in the project.

Because of the huge cost of the takeover, DBP and Land Bank breached limits on their exposure to specific sectors or a single company that required them seek regulatory reprieve.

The Philippine central bank limited the allowance for a certain period but ordered them to dispose of some of their stake by October.

skinheadz

August 27th, 2009, 05:14 AM

Mag click kaya yan sa mga pasahero ng LRT? Kasi kung bababa ka ng Monumento station. Ang layo pa ng lalakarin mo papunta dyan sa Ever Gotesco area. Sana pati Grand Central binili na rin ng SM para SM Grand Central. :lol:

i agree with that..

sana yung Grand Central na lang ang ginawang SM and mas infavor ako kung ginawa na lang Sports Arena yung Ever like San Juan's The Arena para sa mga UAAP/NCAA/PBA venues.. accessible yun kesa sa The Arena lalo na pag natapos na yung North Extension.
:bash:

happosai

August 27th, 2009, 06:07 AM

Sana bumili sila ng bagong trains from Bombardier.

^^Bombardier ba ang nag manufacture ng mga LRV ng MRT2? Di ba Hyundai Rotem ang manufacturer nun?

http://www.lrta.gov.ph/images/megatren_lrt2.jpg
^^Megatren...

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz27/kill1aku/megatren.jpg
^^Decepticons pala sya.. :lol::nuts:

le Reine

August 27th, 2009, 07:08 AM

^^hahaha... yeah ROTEM yung gumawa ng MRT 2

RonnieR

August 27th, 2009, 08:12 AM

Jrommel

August 27th, 2009, 08:40 AM

sana mga bagong design bilhin nilang coaches

happosai

August 27th, 2009, 08:45 AM

http://www.bombardier.com/files/en/supporting_docs/image_and_media/banners/B3-BT_RAILCONTROLSOLUTIONS-00-20080229-02-K7AB.JPG

Project Overview (http://www.bombardier.com/en/transportation/products-services/rail-control-solutions/mass-transit-solutions/cityflo-250/manila--philppines?docID=0901260d80012984)

Bombardier Transportation designed, manufactured, tested and delivered a complete CITYFLO 250 solution for Line 3 of the LRT in Manila.

This fully integrated system includes EBI Lock computer-based interlocking, EBI Screen control room and EBI Cab ATC onboard equipment, guaranteeing a low cost solid and reliable solution.

In total Manila Line 3 is 17.8 km long and has 13 stations. 35 trains were equipped with ATP. This contract also included supervision services for installation, testing and commissioning.

^^Akala ko pa naman tren binili natin sa kanila. :lol:

For high capacity light rail/metro systems

CITYFLO 250 is a system with onboard automatic train protection (ATP) that is displayed in the driver's cab, with track to train communication via balises. CITYFLO 250 is designed primarily for light rapid transit (LRT) or metro applications running on segregated or non-segregated tracks.

The system has the following characteristics:

* Drive on sight system
* Driving supported by EBI Cab automatic train control (ATC) onboard equipment
* ATP information through balises
* Mainly segregated track
* Train detection by EBI Track 200 (TI21) or other track circuits
* Continuous train supervision through EBI Screen control room

EBI Screen control room

The vehicle is supervised by the EBI Screen control room system. This is a modern computer-based control and supervision system allowing the operator to give commands through a mouse or keyboard with the facility to have the position of the vehicles and optional wayside objects shown on both normal display screens and large rear projection screens. The EBI Screen control room also provides train regulation for the system.

EBI Lock computer-based interlocking

The CITYFLO 250 solution uses EBI Lock computer-based interlockings. These interlockings can be either centralised or distributed, in which case the central unit is located in one place and the object controller units that drive the wayside objects can be located at some distance from the central unit.

EBI Link ATC wayside equipment

The information from the track is passed to the train through a Eurobalise located in the middle of the track. The Eurobalise sends information about speeds and distances and allows the ATP to operate in a "distance-to-go mode". The information to the Eurobalise is derived either directly from the EBI Lock computer-based interlocking or through an encoder connected to the signal.
EBI Track train detection

The detection of vehicles in the CITYFLO 250 solution occurs through the jointless track circuit EBI Track 200 (type) TI21 or any other type of track circuit, which gives continuous detection on the position of the vehicle. The type of track circuit used is not important since the information to the ATP system is sent by balises. If necessary, axle counters can be used instead of track circuits.

EBI Switch point machines

A normal railway type point machine from the EBI Switch point machine range can be used, depending on what is most suitable for the particular market.

EBI Light signals

The CITYFLO 250 solution uses vital signals. The signals are used to give the train proceed or not-to-proceed information. The signalling system can be two, three or four aspect as requested by the customer.

EBI Cab onboard equipment

The onboard equipment consists of EBI Cab, which is a distributed onboard system allowing a modern ATP system with continuous supervision and information updates through balises. The system has a SIL 4 safety level in accordance with CENELEC.

hecky12

August 27th, 2009, 09:08 AM

ganun pa la yung gagwin na loop sa monumento.. nakita ko sa stored value ticket ko.. okay na yun... lagyan na lang ng walkway...sa tingin ko rin ang management ng ever e aba kumilos kilos na kayo.. sumabay kayo sa panahon kung ayaw nyong ma demolish na lang ang mga mall nyo..

barrera_marquez

August 27th, 2009, 03:34 PM

^^Akala ko pa naman tren binili natin sa kanila. :lol:

I wonder kung sa LRT 1 iyan or sa MRT 3 pero one thing is for sure. Ang Cityflo 250 is not a train. Yung mga tren ng Bombardier nasa LRT 1 dahil nabili na nito ang Adtranz at ACEC (2nd generation and 1st generation trains).

in_a_rush

August 27th, 2009, 05:09 PM

its a good news that they will finally add new coaches sa MRT3. the problem is wala naman sinabi sa article na target date of purchase.

thescene

August 27th, 2009, 06:37 PM

Hindi ba matagal na yung press release nila about new trains for MRT 3? Though I think with the elections coming up the government might fast track this so that they can have a " going Away present" from the taxpayers. Midnight Deals.

shyaman

August 28th, 2009, 04:00 AM

^^ Isn't the MRT3 consortium a private entity? So the government coffers has nothing to do with the purchase of new trains if ever?

narthuril

August 28th, 2009, 06:14 AM

The government only acquired the mrt 3 recently.

http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/top-news/14943-state-banks-hike-stake-in-metro-rail.html

dhalecx

August 28th, 2009, 12:44 PM

These foot bridges are not very friendly to people with disabilities especially senior citizen.

why call it an eyesore? and where should you put it if you really believe it is an eyesore?

maybe for now, before dreaming of 1st-world-country-looking footbridges, we should be thankful that they have been building these across MM. in some way, footbridges have saved lives and improved, even a bit, the traffic situation.

bustero

August 28th, 2009, 12:45 PM

elnunal

August 28th, 2009, 01:08 PM

elnunal

August 28th, 2009, 01:16 PM

Yung mga train na inoorder ng MRTC sana mga ganito kagaganda

http://www.emta.com/IMG/jpg/bombardier-2.jpg

http://w1.siemens.com/press/pool/de/pressebilder/mobility/sots200804-02_072dpi.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Madrid-metro-2.jpg

Sources:
http://www.emta.com/IMG/jpg/bombardier-2.jpg
http://w1.siemens.com/press/pool/de/pressebilder/mobility/sots200804-02_072dpi.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Madrid-metro-2.jpg

sandman.ink

August 28th, 2009, 01:16 PM

meron bang plans na train connecting NAIA to the MRT?

Jrommel

August 28th, 2009, 04:06 PM

c6josh

August 28th, 2009, 04:35 PM

Sana maglagay sila ng tram sa katipunan yung parang ganito:

http://www.transportxtra.com/files/3721-l.jpg

Source:http://www.transportxtra.com/files/3721-l.jpg

Para naman mabawasan ang mga gumagamit ng kotse at kahit paano eh umayos ang traffic

magandang idea ang mag lagay nang tram sa kalsada at tanggalin na lang ang mga bus at jeep sigurado magiging maganda at maaliwalas ang ating mga kalsada at wala pang traffic.

elnunal

August 28th, 2009, 04:41 PM

magandang idea ang mag lagay nang tram sa kalsada at tanggalin na lang ang mga bus at jeep sigurado magiging maganda at maaliwalas ang ating mga kalsada at wala pang traffic.

Kaya nga diba mas ok kung walang jeep sa mga kalsada at palitan na lang ng tram

happosai

August 28th, 2009, 05:04 PM

^^Baka banggain lang ng mga jeep at bus yan.. :lol:

shyaman

August 28th, 2009, 06:00 PM

Kaya nga diba mas ok kung walang jeep sa mga kalsada at palitan na lang ng tram

If that will be the case, then we will have tram lines at almost every major street of Metro Manila. :) Probably a first of its kind in the world, or the world's longest tram network. :D

najih22

August 28th, 2009, 06:38 PM

These foot bridges are not very friendly to people with disabilities especially senior citizen.

...please give or offer worthy suggestions for the MMDA to consider (with their tight budget). From what I recall based on my observations, the Metro has never been friendlier to pedestrians than what we have now.

elnunal

August 28th, 2009, 06:38 PM

If that will be the case, then we will have tram lines at almost every major street of Metro Manila. :) Probably a first of its kind in the world, or the world's longest tram network. :D

Mas ok naman iyan kaysa puro jeep tayo dito :)

elnunal

August 28th, 2009, 06:52 PM

^^Baka banggain lang ng mga jeep at bus yan.. :lol:

Eh di para hindi banggain ng mga jeep at bus ganito ang ilagay nila:

http://www.monorails.org/webpix%202/SkyTrain03.jpg
http://funini.com/train/tokyo/imgs/chiba.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3373/3173279810_fee3abee19.jpg?v=0

Sources:
http://www.monorails.org/webpix%202/SkyTrain03.jpg
http://funini.com/train/tokyo/imgs/chiba.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3373/3173279810_fee3abee19.jpg?v=0

rayray2009

August 28th, 2009, 08:00 PM

Eh di para hindi banggain ng mga jeep at bus ganito ang ilagay nila:

http://www.monorails.org/webpix%202/SkyTrain03.jpg
http://funini.com/train/tokyo/imgs/chiba.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3373/3173279810_fee3abee19.jpg?v=0

Sources:
http://www.monorails.org/webpix%202/SkyTrain03.jpg
http://funini.com/train/tokyo/imgs/chiba.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3373/3173279810_fee3abee19.jpg?v=0

Monorails are costly. They usually cost around million of dollars per mile. I heard before that MIAA was planning to put up such mode of transportation to connect T1 and T2 and the cost would be huge and until now they have not started yet. Monorails are good for short distances only such as Airport terminal to another terminal or a Theme Park to another Theme Park (within one same Park) just like Disney World in Florida which has lots of theme parks.

elnunal

August 29th, 2009, 03:44 AM

Monorails are costly. They usually cost around million of dollars per mile. I heard before that MIAA was planning to put up such mode of transportation to connect T1 and T2 and the cost would be huge and until now they have not started yet. Monorails are good for short distances only such as Airport terminal to another terminal or a Theme Park to another Theme Park (within one same Park) just like Disney World in Florida which has lots of theme parks.

There's nothing wrong with dreaming diba :lol::lol::lol:

hybridace101

August 29th, 2009, 04:08 AM

elnunal

August 29th, 2009, 04:27 AM

meron bang plans na train connecting NAIA to the MRT?

Meron plans...Alam ko sinabi na yun sa previous pages ng thread na to

pi_malejana

August 29th, 2009, 07:52 AM

Meron plans...Alam ko sinabi na yun sa previous pages ng thread na to

supposed to be part of the LRT-1 South Extension...

:cheers:

cq40

August 29th, 2009, 10:36 AM

supposed to be part of the LRT-1 South Extension...

:cheers:
True.

Initially MRT-3 is supposed to pass Asia World then turn to NAIA but that was years ago.
Northrail's Metro Manila service loop was also proposed to connect there..Not sure now.
LRT-6 is planned to pass there, somehow. I'm still hoping for MRT-3 though.

chris_nigel

August 29th, 2009, 11:12 AM

ang alam ko ang line 1 ng lrt ang i eextend up to the airport d ang mrt 3? correct me if i'm wrong

happosai

August 29th, 2009, 11:15 AM

^^Yes you are correct sir...

c6josh

August 29th, 2009, 11:33 AM

^^Baka banggain lang ng mga jeep at bus yan.. :lol:

kaya nga dapat tanggalin yung bus sa kalsada dahil ito yung dahilan kung bakit sumisikip ang kalsada, yung jeep naman e selected areas nalang pero yung mga national roads at major roads tram.

happosai

August 29th, 2009, 11:56 AM

^^At lahat ng kalsadang may LRT/MRT, alisin mga jeep. At wag din padaanin sa mga major roads mga trisikel.

chris_nigel

August 29th, 2009, 05:23 PM

thanks sir^^^^^ btw wala pa din ba construction ng grand terminal sa SM north?

cq40

August 29th, 2009, 05:35 PM

thanks sir^^^^^ btw wala pa din ba construction ng grand terminal sa SM north?
Wala, mga poste parin, yung bent na poste ganun parin, siguro pinagdedebatehan pa nila ang design. Tanging update lang posted a few pages back is that there are pink barriers connecting to the existing mrt poles to the annex with lightly dug holes. Ganun parin.

happosai

August 29th, 2009, 05:46 PM

^^di ba may porsyento ang sm sa funding nyan? Sm din ba mag design ng station?

RonnieR

August 29th, 2009, 05:53 PM

I'm just wondering kung wala ba talagang threat of terrorism dito sa BKK, picture taking is allowed, walang checking of guards sa mga passengers sa Skytrain and their MRT.....I feel so sad na ang mga guards natin ay stick pa rin ang ginagamit sa pag check ng bags...dapat yong sensor type na papasok ka na lang to detect any bomb kung talaga yun ang pakay nila....

Meron nga dito mga nagpapalimos sa paglabas ng train stations - at least sa ating MRT stations, wala akong nakita....siguro sa LRT 1 meron din..not sure though

happosai

August 29th, 2009, 06:03 PM

^^madami. Almost all stations yata na nababaan ko may pulubi. Abad santos, cariedo, tayuman, buendia, edsa.

cq40

August 30th, 2009, 01:03 AM

^^di ba may porsyento ang sm sa funding nyan? Sm din ba mag design ng station?
200 million pesos lang ang share nila. Ang baba nga eh to think na malaki ang percentage ng bababa sa station na yun ang papunta ng SM North (para makapunta sa TriNoma haha joke) I'm not sure sa design kung sila rin. Possibly.

happosai

August 30th, 2009, 01:07 AM

^^Final na ba ang decision na ilagay yon sa harapan ng SM Annex? O baka naman nakikipag negotiate din ang Ayala kaya natatagalan... :lol: Kung 200M ang SM.. tatapatan nila ng 201M.. :nuts:

tigidig14

August 30th, 2009, 01:13 AM

^^At lahat ng kalsadang may LRT/MRT, alisin mga jeep. At wag din padaanin sa mga major roads mga trisikel.

wag naman mahirap maglakad sa baha :lol:
trisekel lang kasi minsan/usually malakas ang loob pumasok sa mga ganun

nick_marayag

August 30th, 2009, 01:14 AM

^^At lahat ng kalsadang may LRT/MRT, alisin mga jeep. At wag din padaanin sa mga major roads mga trisikel.

What if kung yung pupuntahan mo in between ng 2 stations ng LRT/MRT??? So maglalakd ka ng mahaba or magta-taxi ka kung walang jeep...

happosai

August 30th, 2009, 01:18 AM

wag naman mahirap maglakad sa baha :lol:
trisekel lang kasi minsan/usually malakas ang loob pumasok sa mga ganun

^^Mas may disiplina pa ang mga jeepney drivers kaysa sa kanila. Dito na lang sa blumentritt station ng LRT. Kahit saan ka tumingin may trisikel na nakaharang sa kalye. Kahit pa sa gitna ng rizal avenue. Di lang mga sasakyan napeperwisyo sa kanila. Pati mga taong dumadaan lang sa kalye di maka daan dahil naka harang sila.

happosai

August 30th, 2009, 01:21 AM

What if kung yung pupuntahan mo in between ng 2 stations ng LRT/MRT??? So maglalakd ka ng mahaba or magta-taxi ka kung walang jeep...

^^Kung masipag kang maglakad. Why not?

cq40

August 30th, 2009, 05:13 AM

^^Final na ba ang decision na ilagay yon sa harapan ng SM Annex? O baka naman nakikipag negotiate din ang Ayala kaya natatagalan... :lol: Kung 200M ang SM.. tatapatan nila ng 201M.. :nuts:
Final na ang Terminal Station sa harap ng SM Annex, TriNoma on the other hand will build a (very long) walkway form there to TriNoma (imagines the walkways from Ayala ave to Greenbelt). Sadly the spot will forever darken (imagines Shaw Blvd station)

happosai

August 30th, 2009, 12:10 PM

^^Pag tinatamad kang maglakad. Puwede kang sumakay ng MRT3 papuntang North avenue station ng MRT. Magkano yun 10pesos? :lol:

elnunal

August 30th, 2009, 01:06 PM

Sana dun na lang sila maglagay ng grand terminal sa harap ng trinoma ang laki pa ng lupa doon eh

kalbongdad

August 30th, 2009, 03:47 PM

dapat talaga sa trinoma...park and ride talaga nakadesign ang trinoma...pero they don't seem to need it....mukhang mas kailangan ng sm dahil na kuha ng trinoma ang patrons nila...bakit ka nga naman pupunta pa sa sm noe eh pagbaba mo ng station trinoma na....tahimik mag malling sa trinoma ang ingay sa mga sm malls one thing na inaayawan ko sa kanila...sobrang ingay

happosai

August 30th, 2009, 04:30 PM

kalbongdad

August 30th, 2009, 05:13 PM

^^Pag natayo na ba ang grand central terminal sa harapan ng SM Annex, sa tingin mo ba babalik na ulit sa SM ang mga dating patrons nito?

Ang tanong.. kailan ba sisimulan yang GCT??? Sandali lang ba i-construct yon?

i think it will take quiet a long time....it is a gct afterall....ang tanong ko lang...diretso ba ang biyahe from trinoma station ang tren ba diretso sa gct at from gct sa congressional....or bababa ang passengers sa gct at lilipat ng bay..

happosai

August 30th, 2009, 05:15 PM

^^Malamang doon lang magtatagpo ang mga tren at maglilipatan lang. Kung precast lang ikakabit nila siguro sandali lang yon...

narthuril

August 30th, 2009, 08:16 PM

hindi talaga pwedeng idikit sa trinoma yung lrt 1 north edsa station since kung ganun magiging terminal station parin ang north edsa ng mrt 3 inexplain na ito ni queetz dati eh... di kaya ng current north edsa mrt 3 maging terminal station, hindi niya kaya ihandle ang tao, pag rush hour sa umaga yung mga taong papasok nasasakop 50% or more ng edsa, panu pa kaya kung may dagdag pa siya na tao na galing sa lrt 1.

narthuril

August 30th, 2009, 08:39 PM

and i like that trinoma lot reserved for a building that looks like 1 times square complete with tickers and LED screens.

Ecija

August 31st, 2009, 02:31 AM

evilgenius15

August 31st, 2009, 06:17 AM

nung napadaan ako ng sm annex last saturday parang may
nag ssurvey na ng mga lugar kung saan ilalagay ang foundations
ng GCT

c6josh

August 31st, 2009, 08:08 AM

Wala, mga poste parin, yung bent na poste ganun parin, siguro pinagdedebatehan pa nila ang design. Tanging update lang posted a few pages back is that there are pink barriers connecting to the existing mrt poles to the annex with lightly dug holes. Ganun parin.

sana naman simulan na nila yung mrt going to SM north nakakapagod na rin kasi maglakad galing trinoma.

happosai

August 31st, 2009, 08:55 AM

Walang news kung kelan sisimulan ang GCT, pero may nabasa ako target completion date eh June 2010.

^^Nakakatawa naman yan. May target day of completion na agad. Pero ang date kung kailan sisimulan wala pa.. :lol::nuts:

c6josh

August 31st, 2009, 11:38 AM

ATM cards may soon be used to pay for MRT fares

RUBY ANNE M. RUBIO, GMANews.TV

RCBC executive vice president Ismael R. Sandig – seen here posing with the bank’s MyWallet-MRT Card – said that the new product can also be used to pay for MRT fares, a first in the Philippines’ banking industry. Ruby Anne M. Rubio
Philippine banks may soon issue cash cards that can be used to pay for Metro Rail Transit (MRT) fares.

That is if talks between the Rizal Commercial Banking Corp. (RCBC) and BancNet, an electronic banking consortium, push through, an executive said on Monday.

Under the proposed partnership, BancNet members will be allowed to issue cards that can also be used to pay for MRT fares.

In turn, RCBC is expected to earn from settlement fees to be collected from BancNet lenders since it has an exclusive five-year agreement with the MRT’s ticket provider, Omniprime Marketing Inc.

“Bancnet would like to tie-up with us since we have the franchise," RCBC executive vice president Ismael R. Sandig said during the launch of its MyWallet-MRT Card.

Besides being a regular card for automated teller machines (ATMs), MyWallet-MRT Card can also be used to pay for MRT fares, the first such card in the industry.

“All banks are trying to find ways to duplicate us," he added. “If they will invest on system, it is a huge amount. The market is so huge. There is no way you should stop other banks from issuing. They just have to share some fees with us."

Settlement fees for the proposed arrangement are expected to contribute more than 20 percent to RCBC’s fee-based income for the next two to three years, Sandig said.

The RCBC MRT MyWallet is a prepaid stored value card that allows cardholders draw cash over the counter or ATM, pay bills via RCBC, make balance inquiries, among others.

It is a new variant of the RCBC MyWallet cash card that can be bought through any RCBC branch for disbursement requirements. Unlike a regular ATM account, there is no maintaining balance required.

By December, the RCBC MRT MyWallet will be used in the 13 stations from North Avenue in Quezon City to Taft Avenue in Pasay City, RCBC first vice president Remo M. Garrovillo Jr. said

When it was launched last month, the card was only available in North Ave. and Taft stations.

By 2010, the MRT is looking at a unified cashless and cardless ticketing system and the bank is “positioning for that," he said.

RCBC will be also be tapping universities as reloading stations.

Sandig said the bank would share earnings with them. This is better than entertaining a lot of people in the branches just to reload.

Light Rail Transit Authority wants to see the success of the MyWallet-MRT Card before RCBC can come in.

The tie-up is expected to increase RCBC customers by two million, said Sandig, who is responsible for creating 10 retail banking products in Philippine National Bank.

“This is more of a breakthrough. Most Filipinos cannot afford to maintain P2,000 or P5,000. The only way you can tell them to use the bank is lower the price of doing business with them. There is a big business for my wallet card with our affiliates," he said. - GMANews.TV

c6josh

August 31st, 2009, 11:40 AM

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RCBC executive vice president Ismael R. Sandig – seen here posing with the bank’s MyWallet-MRT Card – said that the new product can also be used to pay for MRT fares, a first in the Philippines’ banking industry. Ruby Anne M. Rubio

c6josh

August 31st, 2009, 11:42 AM

that would be convenient...automatic debit... woohoo!

wise_zech

August 31st, 2009, 11:56 AM

ionmarx

August 31st, 2009, 04:02 PM

that would be convenient...automatic debit... woohoo!

...Although not necessarily risk-free. If the ATM card gets stolen, the person who has ownership of the card may not be able to prevent the thief from using his/her balance to use in MRT. Then again, this is just a small portion of what is or can be stolen from the owner's account, but nevertheless security has to be addressed first.

Ecija

September 1st, 2009, 01:52 AM

^^Nakakatawa naman yan. May target day of completion na agad. Pero ang date kung kailan sisimulan wala pa.. :lol::nuts:

Hindi ka na nasanay sa mga press release ng mga tauhan ni GMA.:lol:

ruralvillage

September 1st, 2009, 05:55 AM

P50-B bond float for infra projects only – NDC (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/218520/p50b-bond-float-infra-projects-only-ndc)
By BERNIE CAHILES-MAGKILAT
August 31, 2009, 7:20pm
Manila Bulletin (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/218520/p50b-bond-float-infra-projects-only-ndc)

The P50-billion bond float of the National Development Co. (NDC) will be strictly used for infrastructure projects identified under the government’s Medium Term Infrastructure Program.

. . .

“The proceeds of the bond float are strictly for the financing of infrastructure projects identified by the government under the MTPIP,” Rebueno said.

. . .

The objective was to help spur the economy in light of the global economic slowdown through massive infrastructure development projects.

The infrastructure projects are long term projects and are expected to go beyond the current administration.

. . .

“We are now vetting on 9 infrastructure projects,” said Edgardo B. Lacson, president of the Philippine Chamber of Commerce and Industry noting that the projects are composed of light rails, toll roads, and ports.

The identified projects include high-speed rail (Clark-Central business districts LRT 1); South Extension (to Bacoor); MRT 9 (EDSA-West Avenue-Morayta); Common Terminal for MRT 3-LRT 1 North Extension-MRT 7; Common Bus Terminals; Light Rail Transport Cebu, City; C6 Lakeshore• Expressway Daang Hari – SLEX Link; Cavite-Laguna (CALA); North Luzon East Expressway; Metro Manila Sky Way; SCTEx-Aurora; international airport in Aurora province and; a second passenger terminal in Diosdado Macapagal International Airport.

Lacson said that the area near the Trinoma shopping center at the end of the MRT3 in Quezon City has been identified as the common terminal for MRT 3, LRT 1 and the proposed MRT 7. Lacson also noted that the development of a major international port in Aurora province is important in making the Philippines a transshipment hub given its strategic location relative to the Pacific.

:banana: :banana:

happosai

September 1st, 2009, 06:23 AM

...Although not necessarily risk-free. If the ATM card gets stolen, the person who has ownership of the card may not be able to prevent the thief from using his/her balance to use in MRT. Then again, this is just a small portion of what is or can be stolen from the owner's account, but nevertheless security has to be addressed first.

^^Siguro bago ka makapasok sa loob ng station, swipe mo muna ATM mo then input PIN number. Tsaka palang siguro ma dedebit ito.

Hindi ka na nasanay sa mga press release ng mga tauhan ni GMA.:lol:

^^Baka naman completion ng pagpaplano yung sinasabi nila? :nuts::nuts:

pi_malejana

September 1st, 2009, 06:34 AM

Pagualon

September 1st, 2009, 06:42 AM

It says, in many of the articles here, THE PROPOSED MRT 7, whats the last development on this big project?

did they start construction already ?

wheel of steel

September 1st, 2009, 09:42 AM

what's this HSR?? tapos may nakalagay pa Clark-CBDs LRT1, ang labo...:dunno:

Clark-Fort Bonifacio HSR along NLEX. It became a priority list now since this will complement the completion and operation of DMIA, the all-station Northrail and NLEX. Travel time is expexted to be in 30-35 mins.

wheel of steel

September 1st, 2009, 09:44 AM

It says, in many of the articles here, THE PROPOSED MRT 7, whats the last development on this big project?

did they start construction already ?

January 2010. The government is actually finalizing and preparing the ROW and alignment for this project. BOT like this, the government shoulders the right of way acquisition. Clearances from water, communication and electrical utilities are currently under pursue prior to the full construction of the project.

Note: MRT7 rollings stock (trains) is a heavy rail like LRT2

pi_malejana

September 1st, 2009, 09:47 AM

Clark-Fort Bonifacio HSR along NLEX. It became a priority list now since this will complement the completion and operation of DMIA, the all-station Northrail and NLEX. Travel time is expexted to be in 30-35 mins.

nalito lang kasi ako dun sa "Clark-CBDs LRT 1"... the CBD probably meant Fort Bonifacio, pero anu ung LRT 1 a typo??:dunno:

omsky

September 1st, 2009, 09:51 AM

Clark-Fort Bonifacio HSR along NLEX. It became a priority list now since this will complement the completion and operation of DMIA, the all-station Northrail and NLEX. Travel time is expexted to be in 30-35 mins.

Sir WOS yung HSR rail is same sa northrail? and yung travel time na 30-35 mins
is point-to-point lang sya, i mean eh di sya mag stop sa ibang station.

wheel of steel

September 1st, 2009, 09:52 AM

nalito lang kasi ako dun sa "Clark-CBDs LRT 1"... the CBD probably meant Fort Bonifacio, pero anu ung LRT 1 a typo??:dunno:

Definitely a typo error. DMIA will not be a hit if they don't ferry passengers from Manila in 30-45mins. :)

wheel of steel

September 1st, 2009, 10:00 AM

Sir WOS yung HSR rail is same sa northrail? and yung travel time na 30-35 mins
is point-to-point lang sya, i mean eh di sya mag stop sa ibang station.

Northrail infrastructures are well prepared by HSR (tilting trains high speed trains) on straight line only but slows down on curve. Tilt trains are faster than conventional trains by 25 to 40% of speed. That means if a Northrail Regular Trains runs at 90kph max on 600meter curve radius, a Nothrail tilt train can do it in 130kph to 140kph. But on straight tracks with 5kms of or more, tilt trains can hit their full speed capacity of 200 to 250kph (eg Pendolino and Acela). Of course, the tracks should be canted and fully maintained. What they are building right now over there in Malolos is already a great assurance that Northrail trains will run on a very very stable tracks. It is prerequesite for High Speed Train operation that that tracks should be at it's bet condition with minimal deformation to vibrations.

On the other hand the HSR will be built on alignment with curves in many kilometer radius. Typical is 3500meter minimum for a 250kph run. In this way, tilt trains will no longer be needed as regular high speed do not have to tilt since the curve is as good as a straight line already.

They are planning to run the HSR along side the NLEX.

kalbongdad

September 1st, 2009, 01:01 PM

sana nga magkaroon na ng project updates na meron mga pics.....para proof na gumagalaw talaga ang projects...sayang hindi ko na hawak ang valenzuela area....hindi na ako napapadpad dun kaya hindi ko na makunan ng pic ang rails dyan....o baka meron mga nakatira dyan sa mc arthur hi-way pics naman dyan...

c6josh

September 1st, 2009, 02:08 PM

...Although not necessarily risk-free. If the ATM card gets stolen, the person who has ownership of the card may not be able to prevent the thief from using his/her balance to use in MRT. Then again, this is just a small portion of what is or can be stolen from the owner's account, but nevertheless security has to be addressed first.

I got your point, security should be considered first, they could also test ran for a month and see what happens.:)

taylorgig

September 1st, 2009, 11:37 PM

^^ Agree! Salamat, @TheAvenger! :okay: :applause:

Dapt may ruling na wala dapat ibang structure or edifice na tataas pa o papantay sa height ng monument in an approximate location of 250 m away from the center of the monument.

Very good suggestion. In many progressive cities overseas, usually their Planning and Zoning Offices takes care of this law...usually enforced by the City Government. I'd like to know if the MMDA's got something similar to this.

Kintoy

September 1st, 2009, 11:48 PM

...Although not necessarily risk-free. If the ATM card gets stolen, the person who has ownership of the card may not be able to prevent the thief from using his/her balance to use in MRT. Then again, this is just a small portion of what is or can be stolen from the owner's account, but nevertheless security has to be addressed first.

just as the owner of the cash cannot prevent the person who stole it from using it to buy stuff... :nuts:

TheAvenger

September 2nd, 2009, 02:35 AM

Yesterday, I have taken some photos of EDSA from Monumento to North Avenue area. I will post it later here tonight, meantime you may see the photos at my own Jibrael Angel Blog.

http://jibrael.blogspot.com/

Planning Democracy

September 2nd, 2009, 06:57 AM

Mga kapatid, anong type of train yung may maximum width na 3150 mm? Ganito kasi ata yung width ng trains na gagamitin for the MRT-7, is this the same type trains used with the LRT-2?

Ecija

September 2nd, 2009, 08:04 AM

Ang train po ba ng LRT2 eh makakatakbo (compatible) sa riles ng LRT1. Maganda sana kung ang mga train ng LRT1 & MRT3 ay katulad ng mgra train ng LRT2.

pi_malejana

September 2nd, 2009, 08:10 AM

wala lang...:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_inwdIe1giWk/Sp2nZNs087I/AAAAAAAAM3A/WhDDbs2XRXg/s1600/100_9009.JPG
(from The Avenger)

halos di na ma-distinguish kung alin ang Monumento dito...:ohno:imbis na si Bonifacio ang centerpiece, napalitan na ng mga nagtataasang billboards at buildings...:(

Sky Harbor

September 2nd, 2009, 10:39 AM

Ang train po ba ng LRT2 eh makakatakbo (compatible) sa riles ng LRT1. Maganda sana kung ang mga train ng LRT1 & MRT3 ay katulad ng mgra train ng LRT2.

They are, but it won't run. The gap between platforms at LRT-1 stations is too narrow, and accommodating MRT-2 trains at LRT-1 stations requires either an expansion of the gap (which entails closing the entire line), narrowing platforms, or both.

elnunal

September 2nd, 2009, 12:45 PM

Wala ba kayong updates tungkol sa MRT 7 at 9???

TheAvenger

September 2nd, 2009, 03:52 PM

Photos of LRT 1 Extension as of 1st Sept.

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Clover leaf bridge

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At Clover leaf

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Congressional

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SM North

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