Metro Manila LRT and MRT Lines - Compiled Threads [Archive] - Page 44

happosai

September 5th, 2009, 09:15 AM

yup indeed dapat lang na pagandahin na ang mga station ng lrt1....medyo may katandaan na rin kailangan na si vicky belo....:lol: did you know that lrt1 is the very first lightrail in the southeast asia...yup...una pa yan sa singa subway....yung sa thailand nung mga 1997 lang yan i remember it well since i was in japan at that time and i saw it being reported in cnn....

may vision kasi si imeldific na binabatikos ng mga oposisyon noon dahil hindi raw bagay sa bansa natin naghihirap ang mga proyekto ni imeldific....just imagine now kung wala ang mga projects nya....mukhang taeng napagiwanan ang pinas...baka mas maganda pa ang vietnam at laos sa atin...

Unang basa ko ay.. may katandaan na rin kagaya ni Vicky Belo..:lol::lol: Sabagay may similarities dapat sila. Si Vicky ay nagparetoke na.. Kaya dapat ipa retoke na rin ang LRT1.. :lol::lol:

^^Tama ka dyan.. di naman lahat ng ginawa ng mga marcoses ay mapapangit at masasama. Marami din naman silang naidulot na maganda sa bayan. Kung sasabihin ko pa mga ito ay OT na ako.. :nuts:

happosai

September 5th, 2009, 10:03 AM

Curved steel beam is a rarity or none at all. If the alignment is curved and steel beams will be used, they will still be straight but in multiple spans to form an arc.

Or maybe post tensioned precast concrete girders/beams will be used in that area.

^^diba yung ibang ramp ng skyway ay naka curve na steel beams? That means puwede rin sya gamitin sa lrt.

shyaman

September 5th, 2009, 01:06 PM

^^ Haven't seen them but if the steel girders are indeed curved sideways, it's probably built up, not cold-formed or manufactured/fabricated as a single steel member. Built up, as in, it comprises short steel segments and welded end to end to form a circular arc with smooth transitions. And that is very expensive and impractical because there are easier and efficient alternatives.

Or probably what appears to be curved steel girders on the rampways are actually a series of straight beams erected to form a circular arc. It's the concrete decking above that's actually curved.

But of course that's what I thought it is, and it may not concur with what's actually there.

glenbsantos

September 5th, 2009, 01:39 PM

^^ tama ka...yong motor sa tingin ko, pupuntahan niya ang building on the other side...eh, right hand drive sila doon kaya ang flow ng traffic baligtad so instead of walking, nag motor siya...:)

Kahit sa CBD nila and most parts of the city, ang mga wires ay di underground, nakalabas - overhead wires, mas maganda pa sa Alabang Madrigal CBD, Makati and the Fort CBD, underground wires except in some parts of Makati like Legaspi Village.

May mga areas na madumi din esp. in Silom at may mga pulubi pero ang daming turista!

oh really? ngayon ko lang nalaman ito ah. ok pala ang makati, alabang, and the fort CBD's eh.

Planning Democracy

September 5th, 2009, 02:17 PM

share ko lang photos...maganda ang landscaping ng BTS sa Bangkok - kahit andaming wires, may motor na dumadaan sa sidewalk, but still malinis at maganda.

Yung sa center island na halaman, marami yan dito sa Pinas, don't know the name

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/BangkokholidayAugust28toSept1031.jpg

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/BangkokholidayAugust28toSept1029.jpg

sumalubong bigla sa akin ang motor na to!
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/BangkokholidayAugust28toSept1030.jpg

Buti pa jan may SIDEWALK!

stanleymalls

September 5th, 2009, 02:31 PM

Photos of LRT 1 Extension as of 1st Sept.
http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/emmanuel_kristofer/100_9005.jpg

ÜBER Thank You sa updates!! :master: :bow: :applause:

share ko lang photos...maganda ang landscaping ng BTS sa Bangkok - kahit andaming wires, may motor na dumadaan sa sidewalk, but still malinis at maganda.

Yung sa center island na halaman, marami yan dito sa Pinas, don't know the name

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/BangkokholidayAugust28toSept1031.jpg

I so love the landscaping! :lol: Dito kasi wala silang paki sa landscaping eh.... Look at LRT1 landscaping, sinemento nila tapos nakaangat yung mga halaman tapos di pa nadidiligan at marumi na.... :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

happosai

September 5th, 2009, 03:09 PM

^^Maraming nagdidilig... Mapanghe lang.. :nuts:

metrosuburban

September 5th, 2009, 03:20 PM

^^^ may funds talaga sila for landscaping and beautification, for tourists talaga sya...

shyaman

September 5th, 2009, 04:04 PM

I so love the landscaping! :lol: Dito kasi wala silang paki sa landscaping eh.... Look at LRT1 landscaping, sinemento nila tapos nakaangat yung mga halaman tapos di pa nadidiligan at marumi na.... :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

^^^ may funds talaga sila for landscaping and beautification, for tourists talaga sya...

And vehicles there are not smoke belchers kaya yung greenery stays verdant green. Unlike in MM, nagiging ash green yung mga dahon kasi coated with soot from vehicle exhaust. Pag nasagi mo nga yung tanim, patay ang damit mong bagong laba ng tide. :D

Bahay_Kubo

September 5th, 2009, 05:59 PM

Hello Pinoy railfans! :)

Wala na bang pag-asa na maging mas maliwanag yung LRT 1 stations? Sobrang dilim sa LRT 1 stations kapag gabi unlike LRT 2 and MRT stations na well-lighted.

Sky Harbor

September 5th, 2009, 06:51 PM

^^ I actually think that some LRT-1 stations, like EDSA, Gil Puyat and Doroteo Jose, are well-lit. Sadly, the lighting isn't uniform. :ohno:

Bahay_Kubo

September 5th, 2009, 07:03 PM

^^ yun nga eh, hindi uniform yung lighting in all LRT-1 stations. kung may lighting man, masyado pa din madilim tingnan. importante pa naman na maging maliwanag ang LRT-1 stations not only to prevent accidents but also to stop petty crimes from happening.

happosai

September 5th, 2009, 11:41 PM

^^yung central terminal na nga lang eh. Ang dilim dilim. Tinawag pa syang central terminal kung madilim naman. Kaya madami tuloy akong nakikitang mga magpartner na mga estudyante doon. Hmmm... Anu kaya gingawa nila? :lol:

Ecija

September 6th, 2009, 02:46 AM

^^Sa totoo lang ang laki ng potentail ng Central terminal kung magkakaroon lang ng initiative ang city government para sa redevopment ng area na yan.

RonnieR

September 6th, 2009, 03:50 AM

oh really? ngayon ko lang nalaman ito ah. ok pala ang makati, alabang, and the fort CBD's eh.

Yes, totoo, may mga photos ako siyempre ayokong i post baka pasimulan pa ng CvC, ayoko ng ganun. Nadaanan kong footbridge to Lumpini MRT station, ang dumi at daming vandalism, pagbaba mo, mga sidewalk vendors. However, sa pangkalahatan on the economic activity, angat talaga ang BKK. GDP is higher, marami silang manufacturing companies, tourists, exports vs. sa atin.

Yong wires, eto napost ko:

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/BangkokholidayAugust28toSept1025.jpg
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/BangkokholidayAugust28toSept1161.jpg

julzandrew

September 6th, 2009, 04:07 AM

ah... not so cool. Manila should also get rid of those electric wires.

adgaps

September 6th, 2009, 04:10 AM

^^ seems the ugly wiring is not a problem of Philippines alone..

sa atin, landscaping ang problema... mejo mas marumi rin ang environment dito sa Metro Manila...

RonnieR

September 6th, 2009, 04:15 AM

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/emmanuel_kristofer/100_9055.jpg

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/yy70/emmanuel_kristofer/100_9062.jpg

I like Carriedo station, konting linis at pagandahin, looks better. Wala pala siyang bubong, just like BTS in Bangkok.

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/BangkokholidayAugust28toSept1045.jpg

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/BangkokholidayAugust28toSept1044.jpg

RonnieR

September 6th, 2009, 04:19 AM

ah... not so cool. Manila should also get rid of those electric wires.

^^ seems the ugly wiring is not a problem of Philippines alone..

sa atin, landscaping ang problema... mejo mas marumi rin ang environment dito sa Metro Manila...

agree, pero sa main CBD natin sa Alabang, Makati and the Fort, walang overhead wires except in Legaspi village, unlike doon, halot lahat, konti lang ang underground.

Sky Harbor

September 6th, 2009, 04:37 AM

^^ Unlike Manila, Bangkok is investing millions of dollars to put those wires underground. So don't be surprised when in a few years, Bangkok will have less wires above-ground than Manila.

RonnieR

September 6th, 2009, 04:48 AM

^^ that's good. Since I joined SSC, I became aware of these overhead wires, unlike before, I didn't even care at all ...:)

michael677

September 6th, 2009, 05:52 AM

Sky Harbor

September 6th, 2009, 07:47 AM

glenbsantos

September 6th, 2009, 08:49 AM

hi i just want to share this. i took this pic from my trip to bangkok last july. i hope our lrt system could be well lighted like this. is there still hope?

mali kasi ang arrangement sa atin. the major cbds are too far from the stations. and where there are train lines running, the area looks like crap unlike bangkok the most progressive areas are where you see the BTS lines

:ohno:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8579/picture169l.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2069/picture459m.jpg

Yes, i totally agree. I have also noticed that those LRT/MRT lines here in Metro Manila are too far from the major business districts. Like for example, the BGC, it's an isolated area due to lack of access. In my opinion, having an LRT/MRT line passing through this area is very feasible. I know that our gov't. has plans of doing that and they should make this project sooner.

julzandrew

September 6th, 2009, 01:03 PM

i agree. BGC needs railways

stanleymalls

September 6th, 2009, 01:09 PM

Nakakainggit naman sa BKK.....

Sana madaliin na nila lhat ng railway projects natin.... :D

RonnieR

September 6th, 2009, 01:16 PM

Yes, i totally agree. I have also noticed that those LRT/MRT lines here in Metro Manila are too far from the major business districts. Like for example, the BGC, it's an isolated area due to lack of access. In my opinion, having an LRT/MRT line passing through this area is very feasible. I know that our gov't. has plans of doing that and they should make this project sooner.

North Avenue is okay, with access to Trinoma and the future North CBD with the Grand Central Terminal

^^ That's why there's a greater focus on transport-oriented developments to help speed up the development of areas near LRT and MRT lines. For example:

* North Avenue: SM City North EDSA development and Grand Central Terminal
* Quezon Avenue: Eton Centris
* Araneta Center-Cubao: Araneta Center
* Ortigas: Ortigas Center CBD
* Ayala: Ayala Center and Makati CBD
* Doroteo Jose/Recto: possible gentrification of inner Manila (hence the construction of the Manila Grand Opera Hotel)
* Araneta (MRT-7 terminus): Tala/San Jose del Monte CBD
* Fort Bonifacio (MRT-5 terminus/Northrail Phase III): Fort Bonifacio CBD and Manila City Air Terminal

It just so happens that unlike Bangkok, Manila didn't realize the benefits of TODs until recently. In addition, lower land prices in areas such as inner Manila are a major plus for the Manila LRT corridors because land prices in Makati and Ortigas are now too high to justify building new buildings for many developers.

What I think though was the major mistake of the LRT when it was planned was that it was not placed in the correct position. For example, had EDSA station been placed on top of EDSA when it was first built, we could have seamless connectivity with MRT-3 today without needing to go through Metropoint Mall.

Well said.

hi i just want to share this. i took this pic from my trip to bangkok last july. i hope our lrt system could be well lighted like this. is there still hope?

mali kasi ang arrangement sa atin. the major cbds are too far from the stations. and where there are train lines running, the area looks like crap unlike bangkok the most progressive areas are where you see the BTS lines

Some stations like North, Ayala, Cubao, Shaw Boulevard, are strategically located to commercial centers. May nakita din akong mga stations dun na di maganda pag baba mo :)
parang sa Sta. Cruz, Avenida
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/BangkokholidayAugust28toSept1138.jpg

RonnieR

September 6th, 2009, 01:23 PM

Ayala station
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/3260566896_9da0cdbd10.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jervissalvador/

sana di bawal kumuha ng photos sa LRT/MRT stations. Napansin ko rin doon, mapoporma ang mga sumasakay sa train, mas mahal ang fare, 15 baht to 40 baht or P22 to P60. Ang mga naka tsinelas lang ay mga turista, the locals are well dressed.

Sky Harbor

September 6th, 2009, 03:00 PM

^^ There has never been restrictions on photography inside the MRT. The LRT meanwhile, as I said before, has become less strict.

michael677

September 6th, 2009, 04:11 PM

i agree. BGC needs railways

my greatest concern is that i still think it will never be built. there is a feeling of great social inequality prevalent in the philippines. there is still 'mata pobre' mentality now although to a lesser extent than before. the idea of mass transit up to now, sits quite insignificant to the elite. it is seen as a mode of transport for the less privileged and general masses as opposed to progressive countries where it is a first priority. the rich in manila are less forward thinking than our asian counterparts. they are not too comfy with rapid development. they prefer to ride in their tinted SUVs and have chaffeurs. look at our cbds. it will be unthinkable to see an LRT line passing by ayala ave, madrigal business park, or BGC. or Powerplant mall directly connected to an MRT station. this mentality is so prevalent especially when you compare districts. some are like first world cities while othrs are third world slums. this is not that noticeable in cities like bangkok.

this is why we so love the american concept of subdivisions. we just modified it to become gated. in bangkok, the rich live along sois (or what we refer literally to as eskinita) or some live in condos. they have maids but you wouldnt see their masters proudly flaunting them.

michael677

September 6th, 2009, 04:26 PM

May nakita din akong mga stations dun na di maganda pag baba mo :)
parang sa Sta. Cruz, Avenida

yes true. but iba pa rin tlga ang feeling dun. pag baba mo, maski madumi at may pulubi ang paligid hindi ka na iistress masyado. its because hindi dun maalikabok, walang bumubusina, at un mga tao mas disente overall. you dont hear the loud noise of jeeps, busses, modified cars and usual street noise.

the best description i have of walking in bangkok is parang sunday dito sa atin. very peaceful, quiet, and relaxed although you know it is a busy workday.

le Reine

September 6th, 2009, 05:51 PM

hi i just want to share this. i took this pic from my trip to bangkok last july. i hope our lrt system could be well lighted like this. is there still hope?I think it's because of our very expensive electricity and also the fact that our rail transit is very much subsidized. If LRTA would do just like that, they will surely bleed. If you'll notice, only those heavily used stations have adequate lighting (take note: I said adequate and not much).

Ayala station
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3457/3260566896_9da0cdbd10.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jervissalvador/grabe yung ayala station, konting tulak mo na lang hulog mga pasahero. :lol:

evilgenius15

September 6th, 2009, 06:04 PM

^^
:lol: may nakita akong pic dito, northbound ayala ata yun... hanggang escalator na mga tao :ohno:

epik ll ian

September 6th, 2009, 06:10 PM

I agree with you about lighting Michael. Something interesting Tokyo, Seoul, Bankok etc. is their stations are well lighted ...

http://images.travelpod.com/users/yyztrvlr/1.1247554120.incheaon-train-station-5x30-am.jpg

This might be an underground, but a lot of the same elements can be applied above ground. These stations look really clean and modern ... and there's something to be said about nice places like this. Many many people have to wait in these places and many people go through these areas each day, so they should be really sharp, well lighted and they should have nice clear signboards. A lot of our train stops look like dark cement bridges with eroded tin signs in comparison. It does consider a slightly bigger price tag, but there are ways out of it. Considering how many people go through these places each day, it's a worthwhile investment if you ask me. The return on the investment will be even greater when our capital can show off a modern and clean cut looking transportation system. I prefer building less projects that have slightly more time and money put into them than many "ok" projects built quickly.

I also hope there will be a day when we turn away from our clown-inspired cheap peeling-paint fetish and turn to building with nice materials that look beautiful on their own and (for the most part) don't need paint haha.

queetz@home

September 6th, 2009, 08:28 PM

^^ That's why there's a greater focus on transport-oriented developments to help speed up the development of areas near LRT and MRT lines. For example:

* North Avenue: SM City North EDSA development and Grand Central Terminal
* Quezon Avenue: Eton Centris
* Araneta Center-Cubao: Araneta Center
* Ortigas: Ortigas Center CBD
* Ayala: Ayala Center and Makati CBD
* Doroteo Jose/Recto: possible gentrification of inner Manila (hence the construction of the Manila Grand Opera Hotel)
* Araneta (MRT-7 terminus): Tala/San Jose del Monte CBD
* Fort Bonifacio (MRT-5 terminus/Northrail Phase III): Fort Bonifacio CBD and Manila City Air Terminal

It just so happens that unlike Bangkok, Manila didn't realize the benefits of TODs until recently. In addition, lower land prices in areas such as inner Manila are a major plus for the Manila LRT corridors because land prices in Makati and Ortigas are now too high to justify building new buildings for many developers.

What I think though was the major mistake of the LRT when it was planned was that it was not placed in the correct position. For example, had EDSA station been placed on top of EDSA when it was first built, we could have seamless connectivity with MRT-3 today without needing to go through Metropoint Mall.

To give credit where credit is due though, one thing Metro Manila seemed to have gotten right, whether by intent or by accident, is the fact that "town centres" along EDSA are easily linkable via a rail rapid transit system.

In Metro Vancouver, the GVRD has a concept, that is really great but will never be followed given the politicking between Translink and the Province, wherein we had a main business hub but also town centres throughout the region where employment centres are placed, all *supposedly* linked by rapid transit. This is called the Livability Regional Strategic Plan.

This plan calls for evenly distributing the population of the metropolis as it grows. This made freeways unnecessary, so people may only need to drive in close areas for work and most personal business, and have the option to take transit if they need to go elsewhere for whatever reason.

Since Metro Manila naturally have these town centres built up already, and at least part of the Metro Manila already has coverage that is similar to the LRSP, our transportation system efficiency has already improved quite a bit, and will continue to do so drastically, as more rapid transit lines are added. I experience this when I live in the Philippines. I live in the Ortigas CBD, so I do most of my business (work, shop, etc) there. If I need to go to Makati City or Cubao, I just hop on the MRT. Wait until the town centres in Novaliches and Alabang are connected....that would be sweet!

Sky Harbor

September 6th, 2009, 08:35 PM

^^ Alabang, unlike the other CBDs, will not be connected by LRT/MRT. Alabang is already linked to the rest of the metropolitan rail network via PNR.

RonnieR

September 7th, 2009, 05:20 AM

^^ There has never been restrictions on photography inside the MRT. The LRT meanwhile, as I said before, has become less strict.

that's good.

yes true. but iba pa rin tlga ang feeling dun. pag baba mo, maski madumi at may pulubi ang paligid hindi ka na iistress masyado. its because hindi dun maalikabok, walang bumubusina, at un mga tao mas disente overall. you dont hear the loud noise of jeeps, busses, modified cars and usual street noise.

the best description i have of walking in bangkok is parang sunday dito sa atin. very peaceful, quiet, and relaxed although you know it is a busy workday.

parang sunday? sorry pero di ganyan sa Chinatown, siksikan ang mga tao. I agree, mas disente mga tao dun, kahit uso ang Havaianas pero I rarely see locals na naka tsinelas, in short, mapoporma sila.

I think it's because of our very expensive electricity and also the fact that our rail transit is very much subsidized. If LRTA would do just like that, they will surely bleed. If you'll notice, only those heavily used stations have adequate lighting (take note: I said adequate and not much).

grabe yung ayala station, konting tulak mo na lang hulog mga pasahero. :lol:

If LRT/MRT fares are inreased to P20 to P50, I'm sure the facilities would be improved. The current fares are just oo cheap.

michael677

September 7th, 2009, 06:16 AM

parang sunday? sorry pero di ganyan sa Chinatown, siksikan ang mga tao. I agree, mas disente mga tao dun, kahit uso ang Havaianas pero I rarely see locals na naka tsinelas, in short, mapoporma sila.

yes siksikan din. ive tried walking in victory monument area (similar to our monumento circle in caloocan) at street level during rush hour. halos wala na ring bangketa gawa ng mga sidewalk vendors. naglalakad nalang kami sa kalye na mismo. but hindi mo naamoy ang mga usok at steady lang mga kotse nakapila lang walang bumubusina, wala ring mga maiingay na sasakyan. also, walang foul smell and nagkakalat kaya parang ok lang ang pagod at init.

Bahay_Kubo

September 7th, 2009, 06:30 AM

Mojacko

September 7th, 2009, 06:38 AM

http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/BangkokholidayAugust28toSept1044.jpg

Kinda resembles the stairwells (going up from ticket-vending level to the platforms) at at least two Yellow LRT Terminal stations: Monumento, and also at Baclaran - albeit much more streamlined and neater-looking (the way they should be.

sandman.ink

September 7th, 2009, 06:39 AM

i am just curious.

hindi ba talaga pwede dito sa Metro Manila ang isang underground railway system?

Buendia and Ayala stations are underground...ung nga lang, u need to go up then down 2x to board the train... hehe

ako kasi, i have this idea for a light railway transit system that would pass through España, Welcome Rotunda, Quezon Avenue, Elliptical Road/Quezon Memorial Circle, Commonwealth Avenue and Quirino Avenue that would be completely underground, especially for the España-Welcome Rotunda-Quezon Avenue section due to the narrow width of the road.

espana? nako! asa ka pa, mukhang malabo ang underground railway dumaan sa espana, bahain dun and if umulan we might see people with umbrellas inside the station while waiting for the next train. hehehe...

sandman.ink

September 7th, 2009, 06:41 AM

I think it's because of our very expensive electricity and also the fact that our rail transit is very much subsidized. If LRTA would do just like that, they will surely bleed. If you'll notice, only those heavily used stations have adequate lighting (take note: I said adequate and not much).

grabe yung ayala station, konting tulak mo na lang hulog mga pasahero. :lol:

kailangan ng safety railing, ung sabay bumubukas sa pintuan ng train.

elnunal

September 7th, 2009, 06:46 AM

i am just curious.

hindi ba talaga pwede dito sa Metro Manila ang isang underground railway system? ako kasi, i have this idea for a light railway transit system that would pass through España, Welcome Rotunda, Quezon Avenue, Elliptical Road/Quezon Memorial Circle, Commonwealth Avenue and Quirino Avenue that would be completely underground, especially for the España-Welcome Rotunda-Quezon Avenue section due to the narrow width of the road.

I think may plans na dyan sinabi na yan sa past replies dito sa thread na ito I forgot lang kung anong MRT line iyan

Sky Harbor

September 7th, 2009, 07:02 AM

i am just curious.

hindi ba talaga pwede dito sa Metro Manila ang isang underground railway system? ako kasi, i have this idea for a light railway transit system that would pass through España, Welcome Rotunda, Quezon Avenue, Elliptical Road/Quezon Memorial Circle, Commonwealth Avenue and Quirino Avenue that would be completely underground, especially for the España-Welcome Rotunda-Quezon Avenue section due to the narrow width of the road.

That's supposed to be MRT-4, which was shelved because of MRT-7, and has since come back for some reason as MRT-9.

cq40

September 7th, 2009, 08:17 AM

i am just curious.

hindi ba talaga pwede dito sa Metro Manila ang isang underground railway system? ako kasi, i have this idea for a light railway transit system that would pass through España, Welcome Rotunda, Quezon Avenue, Elliptical Road/Quezon Memorial Circle, Commonwealth Avenue and Quirino Avenue that would be completely underground, especially for the España-Welcome Rotunda-Quezon Avenue section due to the narrow width of the road.
Right after MRT-3, May MRT-4 na sa path na yan, MRT-7 came along to change plans and overlap MRT-4, naging redundant tuloy. Maybe pag nabuo na ang ibang lines maiisip din nila na feasible mag-overlap, actually, MRT-9 na ang pangalan ng line na yan ngayon. It exists! Ewan ko lang kung san napunta ang MRT-4 brand.

anone

September 7th, 2009, 08:37 AM

Nakakainggit naman sa BKK.....

Sana madaliin na nila lhat ng railway projects natin.... :D

OT pero mas mai-inggit ka kapag nakita mo ang Dubai Metro, stations pa lang nila ay mapapa-WOW ka na.

elnunal

September 7th, 2009, 09:25 AM

Sana ituloy nila yung MRT 9 kasi marami din ang makikinabang noon at saka para hindi naman masyadong congested ang España at Quezon Avenue dahil sa mga jeepneys

Bahay_Kubo

September 7th, 2009, 03:14 PM

^^ i am hoping for the same. there are lot of people, mostly students, who travel from Fairview to Manila and vice versa on a daily basis. a light railway transit system that will pass through España, Welcome Rotunda, Quezon Avenue, Elliptical Road/Quezon Memorial Circle, Commonwealth Avenue and Quirino Highway would greatly help commuters.

however, i would still very much prefer to see this entire light railway transit system on the area despite the perennial flooding on España (this should be the main challenge to the engineers who would be involved with this particular project, if ever) because, with the exception of Commonwealth Avenue, roads there, especially España, are way too narrow to accommodate an above-ground light rail transit system similar to LRT-1, LRT-2 and the MRT. we have to save road space to accommodate huge vehicular traffic on those areas, hence the idea for a completely underground light rail transit system that would pass through España, Welcome Rotunda, Quezon Avenue, Elliptical Road/Quezon Memorial Circle, Commonwealth Avenue and Quirino Highway.

adgaps

September 7th, 2009, 03:31 PM

^^ that's good. Since I joined SSC, I became aware of these overhead wires, unlike before, I didn't even care at all ...:)

^^ ganyan din ako dati... i don't give a damn if we have very ugly overhead wiring, or if our LRT/MRT stations look dirty.. 'so what?' kumbaga...

but now, i began to see things in a more subtle way.. when i look at my surroundings, i just don't look at the people or at the places.. i also begin to notice kung maganda ba yung paligid o hindi...

kalbongdad

September 7th, 2009, 04:04 PM

malamang marami na tayong nahawa kay bayani....:lol:...marunong na rin ako tumingin ng quality na gawa yung hindi pa wardi wardi...bf for president...:)

kennethologist

September 7th, 2009, 04:22 PM

my greatest concern is that i still think it will never be built. there is a feeling of great social inequality prevalent in the philippines. there is still 'mata pobre' mentality now although to a lesser extent than before. the idea of mass transit up to now, sits quite insignificant to the elite. it is seen as a mode of transport for the less privileged and general masses as opposed to progressive countries where it is a first priority. the rich in manila are less forward thinking than our asian counterparts. they are not too comfy with rapid development. they prefer to ride in their tinted SUVs and have chaffeurs. look at our cbds. it will be unthinkable to see an LRT line passing by ayala ave, madrigal business park, or BGC. or Powerplant mall directly connected to an MRT station. this mentality is so prevalent especially when you compare districts. some are like first world cities while othrs are third world slums. this is not that noticeable in cities like bangkok.

this is why we so love the american concept of subdivisions. we just modified it to become gated. in bangkok, the rich live along sois (or what we refer literally to as eskinita) or some live in condos. they have maids but you wouldnt see their masters proudly flaunting them.

something is wrong with this statement i can't figure out what. I really don't think the rich consider the MRT as a mode of transpo for the masses. nowadays even the privileged (i won't call them rich na) are into riding our very own mass transit system. and I don't think they are afraid of progress themselves. they wouldn't be privileged if they weren't forward thinkers.

I think it's just the mentality of the ordinary Filipino that we are inferior, not those who are privileged.

queetz@home

September 7th, 2009, 04:39 PM

michael677

September 7th, 2009, 05:07 PM

something is wrong with this statement i can't figure out what. I really don't think the rich consider the MRT as a mode of transpo for the masses. nowadays even the privileged (i won't call them rich na) are into riding our very own mass transit system. and I don't think they are afraid of progress themselves. they wouldn't be privileged if they weren't forward thinkers.

I think it's just the mentality of the ordinary Filipino that we are inferior, not those who are privileged.

i dont know ha. i think people will oppose building stations right smack in the most developed of districts and malls if there is a way to re align it. and it will still not be the priority mode of transpo for the elite, at least for now. just observe Shangrila (currently the one mall that is most directly connected to an mrt). count how many shoppers from the C+ or B demographic arrive by cars and by train. given that the upper classes are starting to get into mass transit nowadays, it is still most often than not by riding solo and seldom with the entire family. and try borrowing a copy of the mall directory flier, the layout is fantastic and so trendy. but i searched and searched but couldnt find the MRt access anywhere on it! kung baga, isinasantabi sya.

also, look at what happened to mrt when it was placed too close for comfort to wealthy subdivision dwellers. they used their force to dictate how it will be constructed.

so going back to the topic if it will be constructed right in bgc? i think maybe not in the middle if ever it gets constructed. they will adjust it to the perimeter maybe that will be far enough from the multimillion peso condos. just like putting a fine line between the rich and the poor

i for one am very passionate about mass transit and would want more lines. because it is a great equalizer in my opinion. but i know it is not happening at this time

kennethologist

September 7th, 2009, 05:11 PM

I will have to concur. As the Philipines progress, attitudes change. The only way to really make this happen though is to have new blood in the country's leadership in government and industry. Its too dynastic, but even what progress we have done so far, there has been improvements than it was say ten years ago. So it will only be a matter of time.

Note that attitudes towards mass transit, about them being solely for the poor, is an attitude not unique to the Philippines either. I can tell you for absolute certainty that is the reason why we have problems expanding it in Vancouver as well to the areas that truly need it. The "creme de la creme", which are the powers to be, decides based on their own personal attitudes that they are better than everyone else.

in summary, if there is a will, there is a way. pinangungunahan kasi kaagad ng negativity that's why we can't progress. we are actually blessed to have mass transit systems. no matter what flack it gets, it should still be considered a success as it is serving its purpose for cutting commuting time in half. :D

Fraulein

September 7th, 2009, 05:58 PM

malamang marami na tayong nahawa kay bayani....:lol:...marunong na rin ako tumingin ng quality na gawa yung hindi pa wardi wardi...bf for president...:)

Ang pag-iisip kasi ni Bayani Fernando ay isip Engineer. I believe he's a Civil Engineer. Gumanda ang Marikina nung sinimulan nyang pagandahin ito. :)

evo_Sieg

September 7th, 2009, 06:36 PM

Planning Democracy

September 7th, 2009, 06:38 PM

Whatever happened to the planned connection of Northrail to BGC? Tuloy pa ba yon?

Maybe Ayala or the Makati gov't should reconsider building the Makati Loop mass transit system. I think they shelved it because it was too expensive or something. Thus, this should be a project of Ayala along with the Makati LGU since this is for the public good. The Makati LGU should at least subsidize part of the construction or give tax credits since they're overflowing with cash anyway.

The sections of the MRT 4 and 7 that go through the Elliptical Road are underground, this goes all the way to the Philcoa and University Ave stations. I still haven't figured out how MRT 4 will be aligned though, if its parallel to MRT 7.

There's a planned future connection of the MRT 7 to LRT 2 by the way, it goes underground. I haven't seen any drawings for that connection yet just the spur from the MRT 7 drawings.

kratos1211

September 7th, 2009, 06:59 PM

The sections of the MRT 4 and 7 that go through the Elliptical Road are underground, this goes all the way to the Philcoa and University Ave stations. I still haven't figured out how MRT 4 will be aligned though, if its parallel to MRT 7.

I remember, MRT 7 consortium mentioned before, that it is willing to have the MRT 4 viaduct build on top of its structure along commonwealth ave. They will increase the size of the pillars to support a double deck structure, I think the negotiation between the two failed.

pi_malejana

September 7th, 2009, 09:23 PM

Whatever happened to the planned connection of Northrail to BGC? Tuloy pa ba yon?

it's in the 3rd phase (after the completion of a branch line to SEFZ), and is still years away (:()...

hecky12

September 8th, 2009, 10:09 AM

Buendia and Ayala stations are underground...ung nga lang, u need to go up then down 2x to board the train... hehe

natanong ko na rin yan sa bayaw ko and he said.. yung mga rocks daw ng buendia at ayala station are strong enough para sa earthquake kaya yun lang ang underground ng mrt station.. same thing sa lrt2.. diba my underground station yun?

absinthe_888

September 8th, 2009, 10:18 AM

natanong ko na rin yan sa bayaw ko and he said.. yung mga rocks daw ng buendia at ayala station are strong enough para sa earthquake kaya yun lang ang underground ng mrt station.. same thing sa lrt2.. diba my underground station yun?

Yes Sir, Katipunan Station is underground. More info here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katipunan_LRT_Station)

kalbongdad

September 8th, 2009, 01:30 PM

Yes Sir, Katipunan Station is underground. More info here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katipunan_LRT_Station)

yung katipunan station kung malinis pa rin hanggang ngayon yan ang itsura ng mga stations ng subway ng singa at japan....para kang wala sa pinas...yan ay kung malinis pa rin hanggang ngayon....the first time na nakasakay ako dyan when it opened i felt proud...ang ganda sana maganda pa rin hanggang ngayon...:)

Sky Harbor

September 8th, 2009, 01:59 PM

For those who collect LRT/MRT tickets: MRT-2 has released a new ticket. It's basically the standard LRT-1 "Closing the Loop" ticket, only in purple.

evilgenius15

September 8th, 2009, 02:59 PM

question...
pwede ba gamitin yung stored value ng LRT2 sa LRT1? hehehe
(iniisip ko kasi under the same management naman sila kaya baka sakaling pede)
:lol:

Sky Harbor

September 8th, 2009, 03:10 PM

^^ Yes you can, and vice-versa too. However, I prefer the Flash Pass than stored-value cards.

ionmarx

September 8th, 2009, 06:04 PM

For those who collect LRT/MRT tickets: MRT-2 has released a new ticket. It's basically the standard LRT-1 "Closing the Loop" ticket, only in purple.

SJ- or SV-ticket?

Sky Harbor

September 8th, 2009, 06:22 PM

^^ SJ. The MRT-2 SV ticket is still the same old ticket from ages ago only with the President's face scratched out.

glenbsantos

September 8th, 2009, 06:59 PM

Commando shots taken in front of Waltermart Munoz, September 4, 2009.

Foundation for the Munoz-Roosevelt station, i think. :D

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I just hope after the completion of the LRT 1 North extension, the MMDA will put good landscape on the islands and make the walkways clear just like in Bangkok. This will make the metro splendid and tourist friendly as well...

TheAvenger

September 9th, 2009, 05:21 PM

Vicinity of Bagong Barrio, Caloocan City.

Still no signs of the construction of the Bagong Barrio LRT Station.

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ruralvillage

September 9th, 2009, 10:57 PM

LRT 2 gets only moderately satisfactory rating from Jica (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/nation/15826-lrt-2-gets-only-moderately-satisfactory-rating-from-jica.html) Business Mirror (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/nation/15826-lrt-2-gets-only-moderately-satisfactory-rating-from-jica.html)
Written by Cai U. Ordinario / Reporter
Wednesday, 09 September 2009 23:52

THE effectiveness of Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 2, or the Purple Line—the one along Aurora Boulevard—has been assessed as only “moderately satisfactory” by the Japan International Cooperation Agency (Jica) through an independent evaluator and the National Economic and Development Authority (Neda).

Various reasons had been cited for the low ridership of the line, among them several delays in completion that, in turn, rested on the delay in land acquisition and relocation of illegal settlers, more delay in surveying overhead and underground utilities and in procurement of vehicles, tracks and equipment. The change in the location of the Santolan and Pureza stations was also cited.

Observers have noted, however, that the assessment has not included the question of whether the commuting populace in the service area finds the short ride complete—if they have to go further—to Quiapo or Divisoria—they have to change to surface public-utility vehicles at the end of the line in Pureza, which is very much unlike the Edsa or Taft lines.

The evaluation was based on relevance, effectiveness or impact, efficiency and sustainability. The performance of a project, according to these evaluation parameters, is given a corresponding rating of anywhere between A and D, which then leads to an overall project rating.

For the Purple Line, an overall rating of “C” has been given, which means moderately satisfactory. For relevance, the project got a grade of A or highly satisfactory; effectiveness/impact, B; efficiency, B; and sustainability, B.

Relevance is given on the basis of the project at the time of appraisal and ex-post evaluation. The project received a rating of A, which means the project was consistent with the needs and policies of the government.

The rating of B in effectiveness/impact means that the project was able to meet 50 percent to 70 percent of its planned or expected impact and outcomes. Based on the evaluation, the ridership of the LRT 2 was only one-fourth of the expected actual number of passengers per day when the project was appraised.

In 2005 the planned ridership was 620,000 commuters as against the actual 114,800 commuters. In 2008 the planned ridership was 649,000, when the actual number of passengers only reached 160,500 commuters.

Further, the planned train operation at peak hours per day was four cars every three minutes for 570,000 passengers a day. However, a train is now in operation every five minutes during peak hours.

“The load factor indicates that it is still about 40 percent [daily average] even in four years after opening to the public, and this result hints that there is still allowance to the capacity,” the evaluators added.

A financial internal rate of return (FIRR) at appraisal of 3.8 percent and an economic internal rate of return (EIRR) at appraisal of 16.3 percent was set. However, at ex-post evaluation, the project had an FIRR of 3.35 percent and an EIRR of 15.35 percent.

Nonetheless, the evaluation documents stated the project was still able to decongest traffic in Metro Manila, particularly along Magsaysay and Aurora Boulevard. The project was also able to promote economic development in these areas.

The total project was larger than originally planned. The project cost upon appraisal was P25.693 billion but the actual project cost increased to P27.191 billion.

On the other hand, in terms of sustainability, the project’s B rating meant there were no major problems in the project. The sustainability rating took into consideration financial viability, technical capacity, and operation and maintenance.

adgaps

September 10th, 2009, 03:48 AM

Sky Harbor

September 10th, 2009, 03:53 AM

happosai

September 10th, 2009, 04:54 AM

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^^Di kaya yang steel beams na yan ay para sa Bagong Barrio station?

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^^Para kasing dito ilalagay yung mga steel beams. Parang ka sukat sya dito...

RonnieR

September 10th, 2009, 05:54 AM

RonnieR

September 10th, 2009, 07:38 AM

^^ ganyan din ako dati... i don't give a damn if we have very ugly overhead wiring, or if our LRT/MRT stations look dirty.. 'so what?' kumbaga...

but now, i began to see things in a more subtle way.. when i look at my surroundings, i just don't look at the people or at the places.. i also begin to notice kung maganda ba yung paligid o hindi...

So, SSC gives a positive effect on us.

Buendia and Ayala stations are underground...ung nga lang, u need to go up then down 2x to board the train... hehe
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Katipunan station is also underground, no need to go up and down, buy the ticket and board the train there.

look at our cbds. it will be unthinkable to see an LRT line passing by ayala ave, madrigal business park, or BGC. or Powerplant mall directly connected to an MRT station. this mentality is so prevalent especially when you compare districts.

If you go to their SAthorn - CBD, you have to drop at Chong Nonsi station kasi there is no MRT or BTS that runs in that area. Fron Chong Nonsi, you have to walk or get a cab to go to those office towers in the CBD. Not much difference to our Makati Ayala Station drop off point and go to CBD. Same with ORtigas and Shaw Boulevard stations.

cq40

September 10th, 2009, 07:46 AM

^^ I was thinking Santolan station would be made further east (closer perhaps to Robinson's Metro East), while Pureza station would be closer to Santa Mesa station, allowing for easy completion of the SRTS Santa Mesa Link.
Yeah.

Pureza station. Sana iniusog ng konti sa PNR line. Agreed.
Dapat talaga sa Robinsons Metro East may station din, dahil it's an intersection of Felix and Marcos Highways connecting to most eastern passengers. Kahit hanggang sumulong highway pwede rin, anyway, I-extended naman yan eh so wait nalang tau.

I think that "C" rating which sounds like "fail" on their description seems based more on the ridership, mababa sya mas lalo na pag off-peak hours, ang luwag talaga. I noticed kasi pag off-peak, yung jeepney traffic along that path eh mabilis na rin, pwede na wag mag LRT-2. Compared sa EDSA, MRT-3 is the only way to a speedy travel, faster than any bus or taxi.

RonnieR

September 10th, 2009, 07:46 AM

I hope they maintain the cleanliness of our LRT.
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RonnieR

September 10th, 2009, 07:48 AM

Manila-X

September 10th, 2009, 09:04 AM

Yeah.

Pureza station. Sana iniusog ng konti sa PNR line. Agreed.
Dapat talaga sa Robinsons Metro East may station din, dahil it's an intersection of Felix and Marcos Highways connecting to most eastern passengers. Kahit hanggang sumulong highway pwede rin, anyway, I-extended naman yan eh so wait nalang tau.

I think that "C" rating which sounds like "fail" on their description seems based more on the ridership, mababa sya mas lalo na pag off-peak hours, ang luwag talaga. I noticed kasi pag off-peak, yung jeepney traffic along that path eh mabilis na rin, pwede na wag mag LRT-2. Compared sa EDSA, MRT-3 is the only way to a speedy travel, faster than any bus or taxi.

Between talking a jeep and the train, I prefer the later option. Its faster and no traffic worries plus LRT-2 is heavy rail so there is space. Plus the number of ticket machines so you don't have to line up 30 mins in the booths unlike LRT-1 or MRT.

Sky Harbor

September 10th, 2009, 09:17 AM

I hope they maintain the cleanliness of our LRT.
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That's my picture, thank you. ;)

RonnieR

September 10th, 2009, 09:25 AM

That's my picture, thank you. ;)

Wow, that's cool.

anone

September 10th, 2009, 10:31 AM

OT: pero WOW at kailan kaya ang Pilipinas kong mahal magkakaroon ng ganito.

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The Dubai Metro train leaves Mall of the Emirates station on its maiden journey.

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Shaikh Mohammad bought the first ticket on the Dubai Metro, after which the first train left Mall of the Emirates station.

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Dubai became the first Gulf state to have a metro and joined the league of megacities around the world that have similar transport systems.

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The Metro is part of Shaikh Mohammad’s vision to develop an integrated transport system including the Metro, bus network, marine transport and an advanced road infrastructure.

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I congratulate Shaikh Khalifa and the people of the UAE on this huge achievement. This is an achievement for all Arabs, Shaikh Mohammad said.

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I thank everyone from the bottom of my heart for this great job, Shaikh Mohammad said.

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The inside of the Nakheel Harbour and Tower Metro Station.

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The Dubai Metro project represents a glorious culmination of the vision of His Highness Shaikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, said Dr Omar Bin Sulaiman, Governor of the Dubai International Financial Centre (DIFC).
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10/September/2009

Dubai Metro

Rashidiya

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10/September/2009

Dubai Metro

back to the Union Square

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10/September/2009

Dubai Metro

Mall Of The Emirates Station

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Dubai Metro

back to the Harbour Station with gold class

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10/September/2009

Dubai Metro

Harbour Station again

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adgaps

September 10th, 2009, 10:41 AM

barrera_marquez

September 10th, 2009, 03:17 PM

Bagong Barrio aka Malvar Station will be built in General Malvar street... to be exact wala pa talagang signs kasi preparing pa rin ang feasibility study.

Insanedriver

September 11th, 2009, 03:27 AM

^^ yan ang talagang WOW!! :eek2::eek2:

pero, looking at the pics inside the train, mukhang hindi sya kagaya ng sa atin na taalgang pang-maramihang tao... limited ang seats, at kahit tumayo ka, wala kang hawakan...

and i believe, judging from the looks, pang high-end ang rail transit system na yan... yung tipong pang-mayaman talaga... i bet mahal ang ticket jan...

yep.. ang mahal.. looking at one picture he was charged 2 or 3 dirhams which is like 30 pesos here and the fact na Dubai is a small city and metro manila is a huge one where 14 pesos can take you from north ave to taft

a daily pass in dubai metro for students costs 14 riyals... i doubt if filipino students there would even use it, an average baon would be 10-15 dirhams... kaltasin ang 14 dirhams leaving you 1 dirham.. not even enough to buy a can of pepsi na 1.5 fils lol

le Reine

September 11th, 2009, 05:17 AM

LRT 2 gets only moderately satisfactory rating from Jica (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/nation/15826-lrt-2-gets-only-moderately-satisfactory-rating-from-jica.html) Business Mirror (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/nation/15826-lrt-2-gets-only-moderately-satisfactory-rating-from-jica.html)
Written by Cai U. Ordinario / Reporter
Wednesday, 09 September 2009 23:52

For the Purple Line, an overall rating of “C” has been given, which means moderately satisfactory. For relevance, the project got a grade of A or highly satisfactory; effectiveness/impact, B; efficiency, B; and sustainability, B.

A financial internal rate of return (FIRR) at appraisal of 3.8 percent and an economic internal rate of return (EIRR) at appraisal of 16.3 percent was set. However, at ex-post evaluation, the project had an FIRR of 3.35 percent and an EIRR of 15.35 percent.First things first, it boggles my mind why they came up with a "C" when they gave an "A" and three "B's"? It should have been halfway, right? Or maybe the reporter failed to note other assesment. Anyway, the term moderately satisfactory sounds OK for me.

Also, the most important of all is the the FIRR and the EIRR are not far from what was projected. I expect it will get even higher once the ridership soars. This is just the MRT, which started out slow and underused. The most important in this assesment is that: 1.) It is highly relevant; 2.) it is financially stable and sustainable; and 3.) it is still efficient relative to other mass transit and PUVs.

I think that "C" rating which sounds like "fail" on their description seems based more on the ridership, mababa sya mas lalo na pag off-peak hours, ang luwag talaga. I noticed kasi pag off-peak, yung jeepney traffic along that path eh mabilis na rin, pwede na wag mag LRT-2. Compared sa EDSA, MRT-3 is the only way to a speedy travel, faster than any bus or taxi.Dapat talaga malapit sa PNR at sa Metro East yung stations kasi parehong trasport hub yun eh. And also, kaya hindi masyadong nagagamit ang MRT2 kasi usually naman ng heavy traffic galing sa cities ng Rizal papuntang Cubao. Eh hanggang Santolan lang yung station. Impractical yung sasakay ka ng jeep at mag-MRT2 sa Santolan papuntang Cubao since magdadalawang sakay ka pa. Most esp kung nasa FX ka na nakasakay direcho na yun hanggang Cubao, diba? And mostly ng traffic congestion nabubuo sa Rizal papuntang Cubao lang. After Cubao, puwede na mag-jeep or FX.

^^ yan ang talagang WOW!! :eek2::eek2:

pero, looking at the pics inside the train, mukhang hindi sya kagaya ng sa atin na taalgang pang-maramihang tao... limited ang seats, at kahit tumayo ka, wala kang hawakan...

and i believe, judging from the looks, pang high-end ang rail transit system na yan... yung tipong pang-mayaman talaga... i bet mahal ang ticket jan...That's right. Kapag nilagay yan dito sa Manila, sa maintenance pa lang, talo na ang gobyerno.

dancethingy

September 11th, 2009, 07:18 AM

OT: pero WOW at kailan kaya ang Pilipinas kong mahal magkakaroon ng ganito.

^^ We could accomplish the same thing given proper governing and political will. I know plenty of Filipino engineers that were involved in this project of Dubai. I however don't think we should have gold class, silver class, etc.... on out metro system. It's socioeconomic stratification at its ugliest.

pi_malejana

September 11th, 2009, 07:21 AM

yep.. ang mahal.. looking at one picture he was charged 2 or 3 dirhams which is like 30 pesos here and the fact na Dubai is a small city and metro manila is a huge one where 14 pesos can take you from north ave to taft

a daily pass in dubai metro for students costs 14 riyals... i doubt if filipino students there would even use it, an average baon would be 10-15 dirhams... kaltasin ang 14 dirhams leaving you 1 dirham.. not even enough to buy a can of pepsi na 1.5 fils lol

is it subsidized??
MRT is heavily subsidized that's why people only pay 14 pesos, i don't know what the real cost is though...:)

:cheers:

Fraulein

September 11th, 2009, 07:43 AM

Hi!

Ano kaya ang hitsura ng mga stations ng LRT North Extension? :)

Planning Democracy

September 11th, 2009, 08:53 AM

kalbongdad

September 11th, 2009, 04:28 PM

OT: pero WOW at kailan kaya ang Pilipinas kong mahal magkakaroon ng ganito.

pustahan tayo yung nagsulat ng sorry for the inconvenience machine temporarily not available....pinoy yun.....typical tapal tapal....:lol:

mwg12a

September 11th, 2009, 04:31 PM

Si dewlin07 na duling (dewlin, he he) yata LMAO buti na lang hindi gumana ang mga images na posted niya kung hindi, na flood ng husto and page na ito.

dewlin07

September 11th, 2009, 05:43 PM

Sana iganda nila ang nightview sa extension, pati na rin sa luma (LRT, MRT).... maglagay ng sapat na ilaw....

Just like Xiamen's BRT... ang ganda pa sa daan, imagine nyo nalang ito ung nightview sa EDSA:

Night View ng XIAMEN BRT:

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/206/200810223533652107.jpg?et=E046%2BrxPXjFWTpkNNv6YFQ&nmid=265874539

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/204/200810223475283312.jpg?et=ZMqGVyjhyWA9fvEaVHM5SQ&nmid=265874539

Xiamen BRT Final Station: (Di Yi Ma Tou)

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/256/5ae4cbecbef338ce2e2e217b.jpg?et=VwWt%2CBNuh%2BHJpfqcHfU82Q&nmid=265874539

Nightview with the station

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/257/7604401f3a3c23eae1fe0b7b.jpg?et=%2CiI2OyIgACMqMKapX0icLQ&nmid=265874539

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/294/xiamen-5-sep-08-kf-434.jpg?et=4dxRs5dCi%2BtMoTCqSPc6iQ&nmid=265874539

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/345/2009022213193186.jpg?et=cIEekqmf8iGqk7eyNFdqVw&nmid=265874539

nightview

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/337/2009022213193107.jpg?et=pRYkhDq7xMJUkB9nBMhaxA&nmid=265874539

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/342/2009022213193140.jpg?et=1Gww1eFOAfkYsRbHEZ31Sw&nmid=265874539

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/347/DSCF7274.jpg?et=krkdBsO%2B2VDZqSXxLE7zZQ&nmid=265874539

Whole nightview of BRT

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/338/20090705-8f7528ff1d160a1b58829dUG5nrNw8nw.jpg?et=6TYYDKHXjhakhq1Q8A9PTA&nmid=265874539

Station of BRT

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/350/DSCF7296.jpg?et=MExetzaXHCmySoZCWaR6xw&nmid=265874539

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/352/DSCF7301.jpg?et=jz1oFDOsSOOUt57ZGKQNqA&nmid=265874539

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/351/DSCF7272.jpg?et=YaKQhDGMa%2Cw7khlyKxFfHQ&nmid=265874539

sana rin maayos ung station nila
http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/191/p123060202681.jpg?et=OG7UwRn6JQWYu2FktohfyQ&nmid=265874539

Sana ilagay rin ung information about MRT/LRT kung anung minutes sya darating... just like Xiamen BRT....

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/235/0395C115.jpeg?et=zREuCAHFpIR%2BeH9d2%2CaYQw&nmid=265874539

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/392/20090111022557-327774096.jpg?et=%2Bz6tsrv4HpXOHxdWtV7WBQ&nmid=265874539

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/243/20081201-adca5b2abbbad3140d7a1Q0xDpSlt4ag.jpg?et=S%2BJRnYqR6VZuRngnpahWBg&nmid=265874539

Sana meron rin sila GPRS na alam na kung saan na yung station:
http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/290/11f53e37877g214.jpg?et=sFWGlBqR6AwrncwIxqcNVw&nmid=265874539

I hope that the LRT MRT will do it better!! :lol:

at mwga12a, ok na ang pics!! hahaha:bash:

Sky Harbor

September 11th, 2009, 05:46 PM

^^ At any rate, if traffic demands it, that can always be converted to an elevated metro.

dewlin07

September 11th, 2009, 05:50 PM

^^ At any rate, if traffic demands it, that can always be converted to an elevated metro.

yup, because of the government did not approve it, kundi, metro na rin yan... but I also like to ride the BRT, than metro. though mas mabilis ang metro...:lol:

cq40

September 12th, 2009, 04:09 AM

chris_nigel

September 12th, 2009, 05:59 AM

kaya naman gawin yan ehhh sana gawin ng management ng lrt yan para naman ma engganio mga tao sumakay kung mababa ridership nila

OtAkAw

September 12th, 2009, 07:02 AM

Seeing the Dubai Metro pics make me wish that the Sheiks would opt to waste their money building projects here! haha

Sky Harbor

September 12th, 2009, 08:18 AM

Take note, hindi na po kumikita ang Rail Transits naten bagkus, nagbabayad pa ang gobyerno naten para lang manatiling mura ang pasahe sa mrt/lrt.

The LRTA has been profitable since 2005.

dewlin07

September 12th, 2009, 09:22 AM

Every passenger is supposed to pay 42 pesos minimum for one ride, if that is the case or if ever the prices we're raised a little bit higher then we can expect the management to add lights and fancy hi-tech designs, even wifi to our trains. :)

huh? 42 pesos?? wala pa nga 20 pesos ang whole ride sa xiamen BRT eh... (34 kilometers) ang hi-tech hi-tech ang system nila, maganda pa ang lights, desgins at services... BAKA naman corruption sa pinas?:nuts:

Ecija

September 12th, 2009, 09:29 AM

^^P42.00 sana ang binabayaran ng mga passenger kung hindi siya sina-subsidized ng national government.:)

dewlin07

September 12th, 2009, 09:36 AM

Bakit di pa sinama ung pagayos o paglagay ng lights (nightviews) sa mga stations at sa mga daan? di naman walang kwenta yun ah.... :) maganda pang tignan... :banana:

RonnieR

September 12th, 2009, 09:49 AM

Bakit di pa sinama ung pagayos o paglagay ng lights (nightviews) sa mga stations at sa mga daan? di naman walang kwenta yun ah.... :) maganda pang tignan... :banana:

I share your frustration but I'm still hopeful that it will improve - lalo na sa mga lights or night views. Kahit nga sa Ortigas station, yung sidewalk papuntang Robinsons Galleria, madilim. Andun naman ang mga MMDA personnel.

dewlin07

September 12th, 2009, 10:45 AM

^^Kailan pa yun? :bash: hahaha.... How long it will take?:lol: ang maganda na night view sa ROXAS BOULEVARD eh.... hahaha.... SANA gawin rin sa EDSA yun.... pati design ng ilaw sa roxas, ganda rin tignan. Imagine mo nalang ung ilaw sa Roxas nilagay rin sa EDSA, anu kaya tignan? haha... ganda di ba?:lol: palagay na rin yung mga ilaw(light designs) sa poste.... MAS maganda tignan...:) at di pa madilim.... yey!! :banana:haha...

thescene

September 12th, 2009, 04:57 PM

What happened to those flat screen TVs they have in the stations. A few months ago they were in testing phase but the last time I took the MRT it was still not operational.

Jrommel

September 13th, 2009, 08:56 AM

-4xuIzIltnA

TheAvenger

September 14th, 2009, 02:02 AM

http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/emmanuel_e/100_9099.jpg

http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/emmanuel_e/100_9100.jpg

TheAvenger

September 14th, 2009, 02:06 AM

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diz

September 14th, 2009, 03:13 AM

that might look really ugly unless they renovate the old LRT-1 line.... and remove that extended part of it with the billboard.

happosai

September 14th, 2009, 04:55 AM

@TheAvenger.... Thanks for the updates. Akala ko wala na rin progress sa area na yan.. Any movements sa GCT? Ber months na ngayon. Dapat sini-simulan na nila yon... Ilang araw na lang at pasko na!! :banana:

ZIG

September 14th, 2009, 10:43 AM

Seeing the Dubai Metro pics make me wish that the Sheiks would opt to waste their money building projects here! haha

UNION Square sation of the Dubai Metro I have read is the biggest underground station in the world. I went there last friday and it was indeed monstrous.

Dito kasi sa Dubai pinag-isipan talaga yung architecture/design ng metro stations, hindi lang basta tinayo...sana sa Manila ganun din para mas maganda tingnan.

ZIG

September 14th, 2009, 10:51 AM

^^ yan ang talagang WOW!! :eek2::eek2:

pero, looking at the pics inside the train, mukhang hindi sya kagaya ng sa atin na taalgang pang-maramihang tao... limited ang seats, at kahit tumayo ka, wala kang hawakan...

and i believe, judging from the looks, pang high-end ang rail transit system na yan... yung tipong pang-mayaman talaga... i bet mahal ang ticket jan...

yep, medyo high-end yung rail transit na to when you look at it pero actually, it's cheaper to travel by Dubai Metro than use a bus. Pero shempre heavily subsidized to ng Dubai Government kasi they are encouraging people to use it. Ngayon madami pang sumasakay kasi people are curious but many people don't see it that way down the road especially during summer na mas comfortable to travel by car.

Manila-X

September 14th, 2009, 10:55 AM

Take note, hindi na po kumikita ang Rail Transits naten bagkus, nagbabayad pa ang gobyerno naten para lang manatiling mura ang pasahe sa mrt/lrt.

Every passenger is supposed to pay 42 pesos minimum for one ride, if that is the case or if ever the prices we're raised a little bit higher then we can expect the management to add lights and fancy hi-tech designs, even wifi to our trains. :)

Whether its profitable or not, rapid transit is a necessity and without it will force Filipinos to commute on jeepneys and buses and will cause traffic jams that are worst than what Manila has right now.

If the government decides to shut down its metro system because its not earning will be be disastrous

Thank God Manila is blessed with rapid transit even if there are some flaws.

Those lights that Xiamen has aren't necessary for Manila. In fact too much lighting isn't good for mother nature.

Design wise, LRT-2 stations are high-tech. I love their stations. They should do the same for LRT-1 and MRT. The only thing is to maintain it clean and organized.

NicknameForLife

September 14th, 2009, 11:02 AM

^^ ang panget tingnan ng old tracks ng LRT... kung maari nga lang itaas ito at i-maintain ng kalinisan nito....

dewlin07

September 14th, 2009, 03:01 PM

Whether its profitable or not, rapid transit is a necessity and without it will force Filipinos to commute on jeepneys and buses and will cause traffic jams that are worst than what Manila has right now.

If the government decides to shut down its metro system because its not earning will be be disastrous

Thank God Manila is blessed with rapid transit even if there are some flaws.

Those lights that Xiamen has aren't necessary for Manila. In fact too much lighting isn't good for mother nature.

Design wise, LRT-2 stations are high-tech. I love their stations. They should do the same for LRT-1 and MRT. The only thing is to maintain it clean and organized.

Mas maganda kung lagayan pa rin ung mga lights... para mas comfortable to drivers.... SANA naman wag nila sirain or nakawin ang mga lightings (kapag nilagyan na...) pag nilagyan ung mga lights, mas maganda yun and it can give us the metro manila talaga na THE CITY!! if can destruct to mother nature, wag nila buksan ung lights for whole night. pwede hangang 11 pm, patayin nila ung lights para reduce for destruction of EARTH... :lol: sana lagyan rin ung MRT at LRT na sign for next train kung how many minutes sya aarrive sa station, para di matagalan ang mga PASAHERO. Lagyan rin ng GPRS para malaman kung nasaan station or what is the next station... yan ang totoong HI TECH!!!

BTW, nakakaasar nga minsan ung mga jeeps along the roads, walang disipline, kahit saan saan nlang humihinto, maingay pa ung TAMBUCHO!!:bash: ayan tuloy, dyan nagkakasimula ung TRAFFIC....

dewlin07

September 14th, 2009, 05:35 PM

jefflacs

September 14th, 2009, 05:43 PM

^^ Please STOP quoting your own pics, pampabagal ng pagload ng pages specially sa mga hinde naka-DSL, we got your point already. You already told us these things in the previous page.

Sky Harbor

September 14th, 2009, 05:47 PM

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Sana ilagay rin ung information about MRT/LRT kung anung minutes sya darating...

http://images.dewlin07.multiply.com/image/0/photos/1/1200x1200/235/0395C115.jpeg?et=zREuCAHFpIR%2BeH9d2%2CaYQw&nmid=265874539

We have that on MRT-2. Hopefully MRT-7 has it also.

j.r.

September 15th, 2009, 01:43 AM

^^ Please STOP quoting your own pics, pampabagal ng pagload ng pages specially sa mga hinde naka-DSL, we got your point already. You already told us these things in the previous page.
^^^^o nga naman ..lol! :lol:

Manila-X

September 15th, 2009, 02:58 AM

We have that on MRT-2. Hopefully MRT-7 has it also.

Yes the purple line has it. The only thing is its in english :D

daily commuter

September 15th, 2009, 03:00 AM

sana lagyan rin ung MRT at LRT na sign for next train kung how many minutes sya aarrive sa station[/U], para di matagalan ang mga PASAHERO. Lagyan rin ng GPRS para malaman kung nasaan station or what is the next station... yan ang totoong HI TECH!!!

Kung daily commuter ka na, hindi mo na kailangan ng mga yan kasi alam mo na ang susunod at kalkulado mo na ang oras. Sasabay na din ang body clock mo in case na makatulog ka sa tren ay magigising ka sa istasyon kung saan ka bababa.

absinthe_888

September 15th, 2009, 03:12 AM

Lagyan rin ng GPRS para malaman kung nasaan station or what is the next station... yan ang totoong HI TECH!!!

Hindi ba dapat GPS - Global Positioning System ang ilagay at hindi GPRS (General Packet Radio Service aka 2.5G)?

normand

September 15th, 2009, 04:03 AM

^^ baka gusto nya pag-malapit na sa station makakareceive ng text ang mga passenger kung anong station yon :lol:

happosai

September 15th, 2009, 04:11 AM

Kung daily commuter ka na, hindi mo na kailangan ng mga yan kasi alam mo na ang susunod at kalkulado mo na ang oras. Sasabay na din ang body clock mo in case na makatulog ka sa tren ay magigising ka sa istasyon kung saan ka bababa.

^^Napapaghalatang natutulog ka sa byahe.. :lol:

Hindi ba dapat GPS - Global Positioning System ang ilagay at hindi GPRS (General Packet Radio Service aka 2.5G)?

^^Wala na nga nag react.. kinorect mo pa.. :tongue:

happosai

September 15th, 2009, 04:12 AM

^^ baka gusto nya pag-malapit na sa station makakareceive ng text ang mga passenger kung anong station yon :lol:

^^Panu kung na delay ang txt alert nya? Eh di lumampas naman sya sa byahe.. :lol::nuts:

Sky Harbor

September 15th, 2009, 09:08 AM

Yes the purple line has it. The only thing is its in english :D

I believe it's available in Filipino, but it isn't switched. Then again, it's easy to program it anyway.

kalbongdad

September 15th, 2009, 05:08 PM

i seriously doubt if they could finish this thing by dec....at the phase they are doing mukhang malabo....

dewlin07

September 15th, 2009, 05:56 PM

dewlin07

September 15th, 2009, 05:59 PM

We have that on MRT-2. Hopefully MRT-7 has it also.

Sana lahat ng transportation system meron... haha... :lol:

I dont know if it is GPS or GPRS, basta may "GP".... haha.... :lol:

BTW, bakit di pa tapos ung construction ng lrt extension sa cloverleaf? tagal na nun ah.... What is the month of finishing that project?? baka di mahahabol sa december yan...:)

Sky Harbor

September 15th, 2009, 06:11 PM

Yeah.

Pureza station. Sana iniusog ng konti sa PNR line. Agreed.

Case and point on how Pureza station was built in the wrong place relative to the position of Santa Mesa railway station:

* Today, I was on the MRT-2 train bound for Recto. As the train was crossing the Ramon Magsaysay Boulevard overpass which crosses the PNR tracks, T-407 was steaming down the rails towards Santa Mesa, though it was still a bit far away. The train arrives at 5:50 pm at Pureza station.
* In order to catch the PNR train, I run down and exit the station, and immediately hail a pedicab to bring me to Santa Mesa station as quickly as possible. He pedals as fast as he can, even bringing me to the entrance of the train station despite various obstacles in the way on the road, such as street vendors and children playing on the street.
* I arrive at 5:55 pm and as I stepped down from the pedicab and got to the platform, T-407 began speeding off towards Pandacan. :cry:

Although on my watch it was 5:55 pm, the clock in Santa Mesa said 5:57 pm. I nearly left the station to go back on the LRT, but then I decided to take the last northbound train, where I got off at Blumentritt and took the LRT going home.

Had Pureza been built closer to Santa Mesa station, I would have probably been able to not only board that train, but in the process save P17 in fare and P75 in food expenses, since I ate at McDonald's in Vito Cruz after disembarking from the LRT.

brightblade

September 15th, 2009, 07:06 PM

^^P42.00 sana ang binabayaran ng mga passenger kung hindi siya sina-subsidized ng national government.:)

right on! had my first taste of Bangkok's MRT today and was green with envy but was dissipated when my friend told me how much he paid for the ride, triple that of the ours.

Manila-X

September 16th, 2009, 05:46 AM

The BTS has a fair system but its only medium capacity

happosai

September 16th, 2009, 06:06 AM

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5941/s003.jpg

^^Bakit yung isang track nasa ilalim? Magandang idea yan pag inayos ang LRT1. Puwedeng habang kino construct ang bagong LRT1 ay umaandar yun nasa ilalim. Pag nag operate na yugn bago tsaka gibain yung luma.. :banana:

adgaps

September 16th, 2009, 09:51 AM

^^Agree din ako dyan! BTW, wala pa bang magagandang kaganapan na nangyayari sa North EDSA? Nasimulan na ba pag construct ng grand-central terminal?

^^ nopes, no construction activities in the area yet...

busy sila ngayon sa mga lugar na ito:

1. Monumento area - giniba na yung pader sa LRT1, at gumagawa na ng bagong tracks...

2. Bagong Barrio area - not much busy, pero dun kasi ginagawa yung steel beam para sa Cloverleaf area...

3. Balintawak area - traffic. still very busy with those low-lying beams na ginagawa dun.

4. Muñoz area - hindi gaanong traffic. pero may activities din doon, since may inaasemble na rin silang low-lying beam na kagaya ng sa Balintawak area. and i'm wondering kung gaano ka-traffic sa eastbound side nun kahapon, nung may nagaganap na robbery attempt sa Walter mart..

elnunal

September 17th, 2009, 01:00 PM

Ano na ba nangyari dun sa MRT 7 may updates ba kayo dyan

elnunal

September 17th, 2009, 01:01 PM

Dun sa mga inorder na train para sa MRT 2 ano na rin nangyari dun

TheAvenger

September 17th, 2009, 03:59 PM

http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/emmanuel_e/100_9121.jpg

Wondering about the different heights of LRT 1 Extension's post.

TheAvenger

September 17th, 2009, 04:01 PM

Construction progress as of today.

http://i819.photobucket.com/albums/zz111/emmanuel_e/100_9130.jpg

Darkdemon09

September 17th, 2009, 05:56 PM

ask ko lang po sa mga forumer here if ginagamit paba sa yellow line yung 2g LRV nila? hindi ko na kasi sila nakikita..puro 1g at 3g nlang!

boroyski

September 17th, 2009, 06:00 PM

^^Bakit yung isang track nasa ilalim? Magandang idea yan pag inayos ang LRT1. Puwedeng habang kino construct ang bagong LRT1 ay umaandar yun nasa ilalim. Pag nag operate na yugn bago tsaka gibain yung luma.. :banana:

2 line yan na nagtatagpo sa Siam Station (Sukhumvit at Silom Line). Yung Siam station nandoon ang malalking mall sa BKK.

ionmarx

September 17th, 2009, 06:10 PM

Still no news re: station designs? :)

Englehart

September 18th, 2009, 05:52 AM

ask ko lang po sa mga forumer here if ginagamit paba sa yellow line yung 2g LRV nila? hindi ko na kasi sila nakikita..puro 1g at 3g nlang!

yes ginagamit pa most of the times during rush hour lang mga 4 sets yata ang gumagana pa eh yung iba sa nasa depot nakatiwangtiwang

adgaps

September 18th, 2009, 09:46 AM

^^ well ako wala na akong na-eencounter na 2G... sabagay, hindi naman rush hour kapag pumapasok ako...

btw, dun sa horizontal sa Balintawak area... may mga nakausling bakal sa ilalim... bakit kaya?

i doubt na walang gamit yun, dahil pare-pareho sila ng haba at orientation...

kratos1211

September 18th, 2009, 01:29 PM

jefflacs

September 18th, 2009, 06:18 PM

passed by SM north kanina, yung mga untouched posts sa harap ng annex, pinopormahan na nila, they are attaching some metals gagawin na ata ang itaas ng mga posts. ginagawa na din nila ang foundation ng 1st post of the MRT-3 extension (immediately after the MRT-3 line) to the grand central terminal, nagtataka lang ako mas malaki yung circumference nia kaysa sa mga post ng MRT. marami na ding mga heavy machineries na nakaparada dun sa area after ng MRT-3 line/infront of SM. Ground level na din yung foundation ng 1st post after MRT-3

kaelthas18

September 20th, 2009, 05:30 AM

If it's in Robinsons Metro East, wala na yong Santolan? malapit lang kasi ang distance.

inisip siguro nila na wlang paglalagyan ng depot kung sa may imelda ave nila ilalagay at saka ieextend naman yan up to masinag eh.. ang pinagtataka ko tlga eh ung nasa plan dati up to divisoria.. malapit sa tutuban mall.. sayang di natuloy ito..

kaelthas18

September 20th, 2009, 05:31 AM

kaelthas18

September 20th, 2009, 05:32 AM

ionmarx

September 20th, 2009, 08:25 AM

inisip siguro nila na wlang paglalagyan ng depot kung sa may imelda ave nila ilalagay at saka ieextend naman yan up to masinag eh.. ang pinagtataka ko tlga eh ung nasa plan dati up to divisoria.. malapit sa tutuban mall.. sayang di natuloy ito..

It'll help a lot to decongest DV if they'd just connect MRT2 up to that portion, as well as allow people coming from there to bring along their baggage they bought from the area.

kalbongdad

September 20th, 2009, 11:14 AM

It'll help a lot to decongest DV if they'd just connect MRT2 up to that portion, as well as allow people coming from there to bring along their baggage they bought from the area.

marami ang nag lobby na wag na ituloy sa dv....dahil malulugi daw ang mga tindahan sa recto quiapo at nearby malls....dahil ang lahat didiretso na sa dv dahil convenient na.....ang pag punta.....just imagine....imbes na convenience ang isipin....iba ang nasa isipan ng ibang kababayan natin...kaya hindi tayo umaasenso ng todo....pigil palagi ang pag angat natin...dahil sa mga pagiisip na ganito...

barrera_marquez

September 21st, 2009, 12:54 PM

Englehart

September 21st, 2009, 01:22 PM

so it means mas sisirain pla ung mga 2g trains>?? o under repair cla ngaun?

not exactly aircon lang ang sira sa kanila dahil ayaw nila maglabas ng lamig puro init na lang. yung iba napalitan na yung airconditioning unit. iba di na yata eh...

dilapidated na... nagpaalam na yata sila sa service... august ko sila huling nasilayan...

nasa service pa sila subukan mo sumakay ng 7:00 am sa baclaran nandun sila...
with wrapper pa! (spread the virus?)

absinthe_888

September 22nd, 2009, 04:02 AM

Na post na ba to dito? If so, sorry...from PEx (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2496083567_77ffc14731_b.jpg)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2496083567_77ffc14731_b.jpg

Sky Harbor

September 22nd, 2009, 04:12 AM

^^ This was posted a long time ago.

pi_malejana

September 22nd, 2009, 04:15 AM

^^ bakit para atang ang konti ng stations dun sa east extension ng Purple Line (LRT2)??
sa'n ba ung Imelda Ave sa may Sta. Lu??

:cheers:

Manila-X

September 22nd, 2009, 04:36 AM

^^ bakit para atang ang konti ng stations dun sa east extension ng Purple Line (LRT2)??
sa'n ba ung Imelda Ave sa may Sta. Lu??

:cheers:

Because the stations where they are placed are key commercial and transport areas. This is it right here, 2 is enough.

pi_malejana

September 22nd, 2009, 04:41 AM

Because the stations where they are placed are key commercial and transport areas. This is it right here, 2 is enough.

understood... the extension only has a length of 3+ km anyway...:nuts::lol:

:cheers:

Manila-X

September 22nd, 2009, 04:43 AM

understood... the extension only has a length of 3+ km anyway...:nuts::lol:

:cheers:

A station is a must within Robinsons / Sta. Lucia area. Plus Masinag is a transport hub for those heading to Antipolo.

absinthe_888

September 22nd, 2009, 04:51 AM

^^ This was posted a long time ago.

My bad :D Apologies...

nayki

September 22nd, 2009, 05:36 AM

Meron bang Bagong Barrio Station sa north extention ng LRT?

elnunal

September 22nd, 2009, 07:07 AM

Manila-X

September 22nd, 2009, 08:21 AM

Gagawing heavy rail ba yung MRT 7. Sabi dun sa mga previous posts, itutulad daw sa LRT 2 yung MRT 7. Sana kahit ganito man lang ang itsura nung tren:

http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2238011/LYNXCar104atTremontStation-main_Full.jpg

Source:http://i.ehow.com/images/GlobalPhoto/Articles/2238011/LYNXCar104atTremontStation-main_Full.jpg

Future metro networks especially those covering key areas of the metro must be heavy rail. We've seen the consequences of using light rail metro in key areas like the MRT-3.

As for the image. That's not heavy rail but a light rail tram. Most likely LRTA would use metro cars from either Japan or Korea.

The future of Manila's rapid transit system won't be called light or heavy rail. I might be seeing this revision kinda similar to that of Madrid's metro system.

Narrow metro lines

Line-1 (LRT-1)
Line-2 (MRT-3)

Full metro lines

Line-3 (LRT-2)
Line-4 (MRT-7)
Line-5 (MRT-4)

Sky Harbor

September 22nd, 2009, 09:07 AM

^^ Again, it's MRT-2, not LRT-2.

adgaps

September 22nd, 2009, 10:22 AM

Na post na ba to dito? If so, sorry...from PEx (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2496083567_77ffc14731_b.jpg)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2496083567_77ffc14731_b.jpg

^^ this is the first time i've seen that diagram... thanks for posting...

Meron bang Bagong Barrio Station sa north extention ng LRT?

^^ yes, it will be named Malvar station...

^^ Again, it's MRT-2, not LRT-2.

^^ correct.. :cheers:

Manila-X

September 22nd, 2009, 11:06 AM

^^ Again, it's MRT-2, not LRT-2.

I'm still stuck in calling it LRT-2 since its runned by the LRTA. Anyway, ok it's MRT-2 :)

Anyway, the map is cool but I think we need to have different line stroke to diffrentiate rapid transit (metro) and commuter rail.

ruralvillage

September 23rd, 2009, 01:33 AM

LRTA to tap state banks, Japanese funding for Line 2 (http://archives.manilatimes.net/national/2009/sept/23/yehey/business/20090923bus2.html)
Manila Times (http://archives.manilatimes.net/national/2009/sept/23/yehey/business/20090923bus2.html)

THE Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) is eyeing state-run banks or the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) and the Japan Bank for International Cooperation as sources of funds to extend the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Line 2 from Pasig to Rizal.

The LRTA said it is currently holding exploratory talks with the Land Bank of the Philippines and Development Bank of the Philippines on the possible financing of the project.

“Financing from other institutions offering concessional terms like the JBIC/JICA will, likewise, be explored in coordination with DOF [Department of Finance],” LRTA said. Currently, the Marubeni Philippines Corp. is doing a feasibility study on the project, which is expected to complete in February next year.

Costing about P9.43 billion, the MRT Line 2 extension project involves the construction of a four-kilometer eastern extension from Santolan to the Masinag Market in Antipolo along the centerline of Marcos Highway.

The project, which LRTA targets to start in January 2011, has the same design parameters as the original MRT Line 2.

The agency added that only two stations will be constructed namely and these are the MC Station, straddling Imelda Avenue and adjoining Robinson’s East Mall and the Sta. Lucia East Mall in Cainta, and the Silangan Station near the Masinag Market at the crossroad of Marcos and Sumulong Highways.

The existing MRT Line 2 or Megatren traverses Pasig, Marikina, Quezon City, San Juan and Manila, through the major thoroughfares of Marcos Highway, Aurora Boulevard, Ramon Magsaysay Boulevard, Legarda Street and Recto Avenue.

As of August, MRT Line 2 carried 40.27 million passengers.

The Megatren system was built at a cost of P31 billion in soft loans mainly from JBIC, with 2 percent interest for three packages and payable for 30 years with a 10-year grace period.

Earlier, a joint study by JICA and NEDA showed that the fare for MRT 2 should increase to make the system “sustainable.”

Since its operation in 2003, the fare of P12 to P15—or an average fare of P13.50—has been maintained, the study said.

The study added that the number of passengers a day for the past four years is less than expected. In 2005, the daily passengers for Line 2 were 114,800; 130,300 in 2006; 145,000 in 2007 and 160,500 in 2008.
-- Darwin G. Amojelar

kalbongdad

September 23rd, 2009, 02:02 AM

cq40

September 23rd, 2009, 03:25 AM

naguguluhan ako sa mrt2 lrt...purple line na lang kaya....diba lrt2 yang purple line hindi mrt2?.....anyway....the extension would be good news for people in that area.....dapat ang ibotong prez ay yung magpapatuloy sa mga big infra projects ni gma....baka pag iba....isa isantabi na naman yan...kagaya ng mga nangyari sa mga dating projects ng mga marcos....dahil contra pelo...hindi na pinagpatuloy....
LRT-2 talaga pangalan nya, it's those writers who only know how to write and did not give a moment to focus on facts and details like L and M, lrt-2 is basically mostly light and owned by the lrta.

Sky Harbor

September 23rd, 2009, 03:29 AM

^^ MRT-2 is a heavy-rail full metro system (meaning it uses full metro cars, not tramcars as what LRT-1 currently uses). It just so happens to be operated by a light rail transit authority. When you look at an MRT-2 ticket, it clearly states at the bottom of the back of the ticket below the line diagram: MRT Line 2.

Manila-X

September 23rd, 2009, 03:30 AM

LRT-2 talaga pangalan nya, it's those writers who only know how to write and did not give a moment to focus on facts and details like L and M, lrt-2 is basically mostly light and owned by the lrta.

LRT-2 isn't light rail. Again, the system needs a revision of its map and plan.

Manila-X

September 23rd, 2009, 03:31 AM

Sky Harbor

September 23rd, 2009, 03:36 AM

^^ As long as first- and second-generation LRT-1 trains continue to operate, expect LRT-1 to remain light rail for a very long time, even as narrow-profile metro cars begin to gradually replace them.

Manila-X

September 23rd, 2009, 04:27 AM

^^ As long as first- and second-generation LRT-1 trains continue to operate, expect LRT-1 to remain light rail for a very long time, even as narrow-profile metro cars begin to gradually replace them.

Good thing though not all metro line is light rail. Anyway, that's the term
there, The 3-G train is considered narrow profile.

RonnieR

September 23rd, 2009, 07:41 AM

Na post na ba to dito? If so, sorry...from PEx (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2496083567_77ffc14731_b.jpg)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2496083567_77ffc14731_b.jpg

first time I saw this map....thanks.:cheers:

Another stupid move by Caloocan City People's Council. This group wants to stop the LRT loop but they turn blind eye to the huge billboards that surround Bonifacio monument. :bash:

Suspension of train loop in Caloocan urged
By Beverly T. Natividad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:27:00 09/22/2009

Filed Under: Transport, Railway

A GROUP OF CALOOCAN city residents has called for the suspension of work on the Light Rail Transit (LRT) north extension project pending a dialogue with LRT Authority (LRTA) officials on how construction would affect the Bonifacio monument.

Rolando Ocampo, Caloocan City People’s Council (CCPC) founder, yesterday said they would start a signature drive calling for a halt to construction work on the LRT project until the National Historical Institute (NHI) could look into the matter.

Ocampo claimed that no government agency has studied the possible effects of the project on the historical landmark.

He said that suspending construction work would allow NHI to check the project’s effects on the Bonifacio monument and ensure that LRTA officials would abide by guidelines set by the institute on monuments.

“We feel the suspension of the project is only fair in order to have a realistic discussion on the matter. The LRTA and the NHI will not talk to concerned residents while they continue to construct there,” Ocampo said.

The LRT north extension project involves the construction of an elevated line that will run from the Monumento station up to the Metro Rail Transit’s North Avenue station.

It is expected to be completed by 2010.

Ocampo said there were no documents to show that the NHI approved the project.

Based on its guidelines on monuments honoring historical heroes, the NHI said these structures should be treated as hallowed grounds and that any form of desecration against the monument—such as squatting, graffiti and improper advertising—should be prohibited.

Planning Democracy

September 23rd, 2009, 08:45 AM

first time I saw this map....thanks.:cheers:

Another stupid move by Caloocan City People's Council. This group wants to stop the LRT loop but they turn blind eye to the huge billboards that surround Bonifacio monument. :bash:

Suspension of train loop in Caloocan urged
By Beverly T. Natividad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:27:00 09/22/2009

Filed Under: Transport, Railway

A GROUP OF CALOOCAN city residents has called for the suspension of work on the Light Rail Transit (LRT) north extension project pending a dialogue with LRT Authority (LRTA) officials on how construction would affect the Bonifacio monument.

Rolando Ocampo, Caloocan City People’s Council (CCPC) founder, yesterday said they would start a signature drive calling for a halt to construction work on the LRT project until the National Historical Institute (NHI) could look into the matter.

Ocampo claimed that no government agency has studied the possible effects of the project on the historical landmark.

He said that suspending construction work would allow NHI to check the project’s effects on the Bonifacio monument and ensure that LRTA officials would abide by guidelines set by the institute on monuments.

“We feel the suspension of the project is only fair in order to have a realistic discussion on the matter. The LRTA and the NHI will not talk to concerned residents while they continue to construct there,” Ocampo said.

The LRT north extension project involves the construction of an elevated line that will run from the Monumento station up to the Metro Rail Transit’s North Avenue station.

It is expected to be completed by 2010.

Ocampo said there were no documents to show that the NHI approved the project.

Based on its guidelines on monuments honoring historical heroes, the NHI said these structures should be treated as hallowed grounds and that any form of desecration against the monument—such as squatting, graffiti and improper advertising—should be prohibited.

Ang tagal na ng issue na ito a nabuhay ulit? Hasn't it been resolved? :ohno:

And why only now, again? Mga too late the hero na itong mga ito. :lol:

Ewan ko na lang kung ma TRO pa yan. The construction and the planning and media awareness has been there for a very long time already, it looks like these people are just grandstanding to get attention, may potential political candidates na kasama siguro sa grupo.

edly

September 23rd, 2009, 08:51 AM

^^Just a simple grandstanding. Sorry, but their claim will eventually lead to trash bin. :bash:

julzandrew

September 23rd, 2009, 12:47 PM

will MRT4 and MRT7 push through? some of their stations are situated side by side

jacknjill

September 23rd, 2009, 04:19 PM

will MRT4 and MRT7 push through? some of their stations are situated side by side

^^
Nakuha ko ito sa website ng MRT 7, Universal LRT Operation http://www.ulc.com.ph/Schedule.html, umpisa ng construction ay January 2010. Sana walang delay.

:banana:

stanleymalls

September 23rd, 2009, 04:50 PM

^^ Really? That is so GOOD NEWS!! :D :banana:

Manila-X

September 24th, 2009, 04:05 AM

From the look of the image it's gonna be a heavy rail full metro system and hopefully it will be. Light rail doesn't work for Metro Manila.

Sky Harbor

September 24th, 2009, 04:10 AM

^^ It was posted here previously that MRT-7 will be a full metro.

Manila-X

September 24th, 2009, 04:15 AM

^^ It was posted here previously that MRT-7 will be a full metro.

That's good news :)

epik ll ian

September 24th, 2009, 05:26 AM

What parts of the transportation system are underground??? Are there any?? O_O

kalbongdad

September 24th, 2009, 06:09 AM

ay sus....you only succeeded in confusing me more....i will stick with the color coding.... :lol:

Bosnyboy

September 24th, 2009, 06:11 AM

Ang tagal na ng issue na ito a nabuhay ulit? Hasn't it been resolved? :ohno:

And why only now, again? Mga too late the hero na itong mga ito. :lol:

Ewan ko na lang kung ma TRO pa yan. The construction and the planning and media awareness has been there for a very long time already, it looks like these people are just grandstanding to get attention, may potential political candidates na kasama siguro sa grupo.

May mga tao sigurong hindi nabigyan ng alam mo na kaya nagpaparamdam. Malapit na kasi ang election.

Planning Democracy

September 24th, 2009, 06:55 AM

What parts of the transportation system are underground??? Are there any?? O_O

MRT 4 and 7 will have underground sections in the Quezon Circle area, emerging in the university ave/philcoa area. There will also be an underground spur in the MRT 7 University Ave station which is for future expansion and connection with the LRT-2, but there no drawings or plans yet for that connection.

venntro

September 24th, 2009, 07:10 AM

MRT 4 and 7 will have underground sections in the Quezon Circle area, emerging in the university ave/philcoa area. There will also be an underground spur in the MRT 7 University Ave station which is for future expansion and connection with the LRT-2, but there no drawings or plans yet for that connection.

^^ Speaking of spur lines, whatever happened to the Ayala spur line?

adgaps

September 24th, 2009, 10:15 AM

happosai

September 24th, 2009, 10:22 AM

^^OO nga.. nagtataka nga rin ako tungkol sa linya na yon.. Di kaya express trip yon from Santolan?

pinkdoraemon

September 24th, 2009, 10:32 AM

Na post na ba to dito? If so, sorry...from PEx (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2496083567_77ffc14731_b.jpg)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2496083567_77ffc14731_b.jpg

Pano gagawin sa MRT 4 at 7, magmemerge ba ng tracks at stations? Parang BTS pero mas maraming station. Akala ko ba MRT 4 will end at North EDSA? Mas praktikal ata ang ganon, lipat na lang sa MRT 7 ang papuntang Fairview.

I hope they use third rails rather than overhead wires para malinis tignan.

What I like about MRT 3 is that they run fast. I'm sure MRT 2 trains can do this too but the distances between the stations are too short and the tracks are sometimes winding.

May magagawa ba sa 'di smooth na takbo ng tren sa Line 1

adgaps

September 24th, 2009, 10:58 AM

^^OO nga.. nagtataka nga rin ako tungkol sa linya na yon.. Di kaya express trip yon from Santolan?

^^ now that you mentioned it, i believe there's a supposed 'shuttle' to santolan somewhere in that station... pero syempre, bakit naman mag-shuttle ka kung pwede namang tren na lang?

Pano gagawin sa MRT 4 at 7, magmemerge ba ng tracks at stations? Parang BTS pero mas maraming station. Akala ko ba MRT 4 will end at North EDSA? Mas praktikal ata ang ganon, lipat na lang sa MRT 7 ang papuntang Fairview.

^^ MRT4 and MRT7 won't merge...

i do hope they build a link from an MRT4 station to a MRT7 station.. but then, bakit nga ba dalawang linya yang magkatabi pa? :nuts:

happosai

September 24th, 2009, 11:02 AM

^^Para pag nasira yung isang linya may backup.. :nuts:

RonnieR

September 24th, 2009, 11:37 AM

2G TRAINS
Some photos from my trip last weekend. :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2559/3837215254_6c574a1418_b.jpg

raffy_east

September 24th, 2009, 12:53 PM

^^ very nice photo, i hope its always like that, not very crowded :(

hybridace101

September 24th, 2009, 01:25 PM

I've seen metro systems around the world and I can tell you only Manila's metro is the only system where one has to get out of 1 line (i.e. exit the barriers first) to hop onboard the next and it takes at least 3 minutes to get back in.

boy08

September 24th, 2009, 01:35 PM

^^ very nice photo, i hope its always like that, not very crowded :(

^^kaya nmn crowded ang line 1 ngaun dahil na din kasi sa ginagawa sa north extension naiipon ang tren sa caloocan station hindi agad makabalik papuntang baclaran. lagi nmn ina announce yan sa lahat ng station

Sky Harbor

September 24th, 2009, 03:13 PM

Sky Harbor

September 24th, 2009, 03:14 PM

2G TRAINS

That's a first-generation train. :tongue2:

najih22

September 24th, 2009, 03:27 PM

ei guys, i have a question:

dun sa Araneta-Cubao station ng MRT2, para saan yung nakahiwalay na riles? meron kasing separate na mas mababang railroad tracks...

i'm wondering kung bakit meron ganun...

it was used during the soft opening (from Santolan to Cubao station) in 2003 of line 2. though, I don't know what's the long term purpose of that track.

*Cubao station is a terminal station aside from Recto and Santolan stations.

adgaps

September 24th, 2009, 04:11 PM

it was used during the soft opening (from Santolan to Cubao station) in 2003 of line 2. though, I don't know what's the long term purpose of that track.

*Cubao station is a terminal station aside from Recto and Santolan stations.

^^ oh, so kaya pala merong nakahiwalay na riles dun...

i've always thought that sometime in the past, MRT2 used to run either Recto-Cubao or Cubao-Santolan...

kasi, kapag inaanounce yung next station, Araneta Center-Cubao station is always referred to as a terminal...

anyway, thanks for answering my question... :):)

barrera_marquez

September 24th, 2009, 04:24 PM

first time I saw this map....thanks.:cheers:

Another stupid move by Caloocan City People's Council. This group wants to stop the LRT loop but they turn blind eye to the huge billboards that surround Bonifacio monument. :bash:

Suspension of train loop in Caloocan urged
By Beverly T. Natividad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:27:00 09/22/2009

Filed Under: Transport, Railway

A GROUP OF CALOOCAN city residents has called for the suspension of work on the Light Rail Transit (LRT) north extension project pending a dialogue with LRT Authority (LRTA) officials on how construction would affect the Bonifacio monument.

Rolando Ocampo, Caloocan City People’s Council (CCPC) founder, yesterday said they would start a signature drive calling for a halt to construction work on the LRT project until the National Historical Institute (NHI) could look into the matter.

Ocampo claimed that no government agency has studied the possible effects of the project on the historical landmark.

He said that suspending construction work would allow NHI to check the project’s effects on the Bonifacio monument and ensure that LRTA officials would abide by guidelines set by the institute on monuments.

“We feel the suspension of the project is only fair in order to have a realistic discussion on the matter. The LRTA and the NHI will not talk to concerned residents while they continue to construct there,” Ocampo said.

The LRT north extension project involves the construction of an elevated line that will run from the Monumento station up to the Metro Rail Transit’s North Avenue station.

It is expected to be completed by 2010.

Ocampo said there were no documents to show that the NHI approved the project.

Based on its guidelines on monuments honoring historical heroes, the NHI said these structures should be treated as hallowed grounds and that any form of desecration against the monument—such as squatting, graffiti and improper advertising—should be prohibited.

Anak ng tinapay! Before they look into that Monument, watch out on that station in Bagong Barrio first! Until now wala pa ring isang hukay ang nasisilayan doon!

Juan Pilgrim

September 24th, 2009, 04:53 PM

The MRT 7 proposal is a combined 45-km of road and rail transportation project
from Bocaue exit North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) to MRT3 at North Avenue-EDSA.

The 22-km, 6-lane asphalt road will connect the NLEX to the major transportation hub
development in Tala, San Jose del Monte.

The 23-km mostly elevated MRT starts from Tala and ends at
the integrated MRT 3/MRT7 station at EDSA.

The construction period is expected to last 3-1/2 years. The Proponent will operate and manage
the system on behalf of the government over 25 years while gradually transferring ownership
of the system to government in proportion to payments of annual capacity fees.

The Project is estimated to cost US$ 1.235 Billion, including interest during construction.
Project cost will be financed by a combination of debt (75%) and equity (25%).

The Project offers investors excellent financial rewards, with substantial upside profitability
and limited downside risk. Under a build-Gradual Transfer-Operate and Maintain (BGTOM) arrangement
with the government, investors are expected to reap a 16.8% after tax,
return of equity over the 25-year project life.

http://www.ulc.com.ph/Images/index-2.jpg

http://www.ulc.com.ph/project.html

:horse:

epik ll ian

September 24th, 2009, 04:57 PM

Not exactly. Metro systems in the former Soviet Union work the same way.

LOL FORMER Soviet Union.
What a relief we're up to par with the Former Soviet Union ahahahahahhaa

Sky Harbor

September 24th, 2009, 05:21 PM

^^ Moscow has one of the world's greatest metro systems, but in order to transfer in most stations, you need to exit the line and re-enter. This is where a seamless fare structure and ticketing system come in.

pinkdoraemon

September 25th, 2009, 06:17 AM

^^ oh, so kaya pala merong nakahiwalay na riles dun...

i've always thought that sometime in the past, MRT2 used to run either Recto-Cubao or Cubao-Santolan...

kasi, kapag inaanounce yung next station, Araneta Center-Cubao station is always referred to as a terminal...

anyway, thanks for answering my question... :):)

Hindi kaya yung salitang terminal refers to the Cubao Bus Terminal? Just a thought.:lol:

RonnieR

September 25th, 2009, 06:23 AM

That's a first-generation train. :tongue2:

Thanks for the correction. Okay, what are these 2G trains? I know the 3G trains...I'm confused.

RonnieR

September 25th, 2009, 06:27 AM

http://www.ulc.com.ph/project.html
The MRT 7 proposal is a combined 45-km of road and rail transportation project
from Bocaue exit North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) to MRT3 at North Avenue-EDSA.

The 22-km, 6-lane asphalt road will connect the NLEX to the major transportation hub
development in Tala, San Jose del Monte.

The 23-km mostly elevated MRT starts from Tala and ends at
the integrated MRT 3/MRT7 station at EDSA.

The construction period is expected to last 3-1/2 years. The Proponent will operate and manage
the system on behalf of the government over 25 years while gradually transferring ownership
of the system to government in proportion to payments of annual capacity fees.

The Project is estimated to cost US$ 1.235 Billion, including interest during construction.
Project cost will be financed by a combination of debt (75%) and equity (25%).

The Project offers investors excellent financial rewards, with substantial upside profitability
and limited downside risk. Under a build-Gradual Transfer-Operate and Maintain (BGTOM) arrangement
with the government, investors are expected to reap a 16.8% after tax,
return of equity over the 25-year project life.

:horse:
http://www.ulc.com.ph/Images/index-2.jpg
and they will the construction in January 2010 as scheduled. :cheers:

raphael478

September 25th, 2009, 04:45 PM

Thanks for the correction. Okay, what are these 2G trains? I know the 3G trains...I'm confused.

2G trains are those who look like rugged aluminum and usually has advert wrapping on its body and a (currently faded-out) SRTS logo at the front.

absinthe_888

September 26th, 2009, 02:49 PM

Guys, si PGMA nag LRT at MRT kanina para makapunta sa Camp Aguinaldo para sa NDCC meeting...wala lang, babahain si RP 1 eh :D

Sa nangyari ngayong araw sa Metro, mahihirapan talaga kung subway type ang mass rail transport system natin...

NicknameForLife

September 26th, 2009, 02:52 PM

OT:
wla na atang pag-asang ayusin ang problemang ito... .sapalagay ko sa sarili muna natin tayo magsimula..... wag lang tayong magtapon ng basura... sapagkat sa panahong ito... lalo na ngayon.. maraming bagyo ngayon ang malalakas...

NOT OT: sana bukas parin sila kahit gabing-gabing na.... dahil ito ngayon ang pinaka-effective na transport ngaun... =)

absinthe_888

September 26th, 2009, 02:54 PM

^^ Pinag utos na ni Madam GMA na tuloy padin ang operation ng MRT/ LRT, hindi ko lang alam kung hanggang anung oras.

NicknameForLife

September 26th, 2009, 03:12 PM

^^ sana nga lang OT cla... kasi daw... mahigit 70% ng major roads sa Edsa ... baha

hybridace101

September 26th, 2009, 03:15 PM

What's Katipunan station like now?

adgaps

September 26th, 2009, 03:29 PM

kanina sabi sa balita yung ibang mga hindi ma-evacuate sa Marikina pinapasok sa Santolan station...

saka i heard na yung mga nasa Munoz area daw na hindi na makapaglakad nang maayos dahil sa baha, sa LRT North extension na raw pinapadaan... ibig sabihin, dun sila naglalakad sa mismong tracks...

groundzero

September 26th, 2009, 10:58 PM

courtesy of Aziza1121 from SM City North Edsa thread http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6020/dsc05430n.jpg

posts now standing upright in front of SM City North Edsa

Vmagat

September 27th, 2009, 05:57 AM

Not only the soviet union, KL's system also is un-integrated, same as what we have here. Only KL sentral gives some form of integration but still you have to get out of the turnstiles of one line and to go to another line.

FYI:)

LOL FORMER Soviet Union.
What a relief we're up to par with the Former Soviet Union ahahahahahhaa

pi_malejana

September 27th, 2009, 08:14 AM

MRT cuts fare to P10 in all stations (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/173264/mrt-cuts-fare-to-p10-in-all-stations)
09/27/2009 | 12:12 PM

The Manila Metro Rail Transit (MRT) began charging P10 in all of its stations on Sunday to accommodate commuters who have remained stranded by floodwaters.

The MRT has turned into the primary transportation means of the public since tropical storm 'Ondoy' submerged many major roads in Metro Manila since Saturday.

National Defense chief Gilberto Teodoro Jr., had earlier called the Department of Transportation and Communications to keep the MRT and the Manila Light Rail Transit (LRT) open for commuters. Teodoro himself admitted to using the MRT to get to Camp Aguinaldo along EDSA from Pasay City.

The MRT connects Taft Avenue in Manila to North Avenue in Quezon City while the LRT links Baclaran in Manila to Monumento in Caloocan City. - GMANews.TV

queetz@home

September 27th, 2009, 06:33 PM

Hi Everyone,

Can we all please stay on topic and just talk about the MRT/LRT lines of Metro Manila in this thread???!!!! There is a section in Skyscrapercity specifically catered to discuss transit systems all over the world for comparitive purposes. Below is the link.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=130

Personally, I find it really frustrating when I go online, see this thread has some movement, get really excited as I anticipate updates like new news and photos, click on this thread and all I see is USELESS CHATTER about things that DOES NOT EVEN HAVE ANYTHING TO DO with Metro Manila MRT/LRTs.

Some of us live in areas, supposedly "best place on earth" but can't help feel envious of a poor third world city because despite our area's great wealth, high standard of living, etc., there is still FAR FAR FAR MORE PROGRESS in the corrupt, backward, dynastic cities in Metro Manila when it comes to the advancement of rail rapid transit. So when those of us that are expecting some update to the projects that gives us a bit of sanity, we expect to see updates, news, pics, or relevant discussions to that verrrrrrrrrrry topic.

So again, please discuss other transit systems in the link I provided and leave this thread alone. This should only for Metro Manila MRT/LRT dicussions, and if there are no news, pics, updates, or relevant discussions, then so be it. I'd rather have no movement in this thread for a few days than useless movement anyday.

Thank you

Queetz
Founder of the SSC Philippine Forums

absinthe_888

September 28th, 2009, 08:14 AM

Stranded commuters turn to elevated rails (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=509181&publicationSubCategoryId=65)
(The Philippine Star) Updated September 28, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - With many of Metro Manila’s major thoroughfares rendered impassable to vehicular traffic by flash floods, the Light Rail Transit (LRT) and the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) provided an alternative for commuters trying to get home, officials said yesterday.

LRT Authority administrator Melquiades Robles expressed pride that their maintenance personnel were able to keep LRT Lines 1 and 2 running efficiently and without disruption despite Saturday’s torrential rains.

Robles said the only problem they encountered was the unavoidable congestion at the LRT stations, especially those in flooded areas such as Taft and Rizal Avenues.

At the MRT, the rail line charged passengers a flat rate of P10 starting 9:30 p.m. Saturday as a form of relief assistance to thousands of commuters.

MRT general manager Reynaldo Berroya said the P10 flat rate will be available until the end of their extended operations at 1 a.m. today.

He said the MRT maintained normal operations despite reports that passengers had to endure the long wait between trains.

Berroya said to accommodate the surge of passengers last Saturday, they increased the number of trains from nine to 16.

RonnieR

September 28th, 2009, 08:44 AM

in times of crisis, LRT helps.

Coast Guard rescuers take LRT ride to save lives

By DJ Yap
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 19:09:00 09/27/2009

MANILA, Philippines -- In what they must count as an occupational irony, seven Coast Guard rescuers resorted to taking an LRT ride on the way saving people stranded on rooftops in Marikina City Sunday, due to the floods that swept Metro Manila on Saturday.

They endured curious stares inside the train with their bright orange deflated tugboat.

“Traffic was not moving at all, so we had to take all measures to get there as soon as we could,” said Lt. Jr. Grade Crisanto Anas, who has been with the Coast Guard Special Operations group for eight years.

“We reached Marikina at about 9:30-10 p.m. already, so we had to get to work quickly and save as many people as possible,” he said.

When they reached SM Marikina after alighting on the Santolan station, the crew inflated the tugboat and braved the rampaging waters in the streets. They concentrated their efforts on Provident Hills, one of the hardest hit places by Typhoon Ondoy.

“When we came, the people cheered. Their reaction was like, ‘finally, somebody came.’ Some even cried (in relief),” Anas said in Filipino.

“Our first rescues were two women who had just given birth. We heard about their cases from the neighbors so we went to them first so the babies would not catch cold,” he said.

Petty Officer First Class Wilson Doco, who had been working in Coast Guard rescue missions for 16 years, said they took the women, along with the others they rescued, in a secure place near SM Marikina, so other emergency units could attend to them.

In all, the small crew aboard the tugboat saved between 75 and 80 individuals with ages ranging from a few weeks old to 80 years old.

The crew also retrieved three bodies from Provident Villages, Anas said.

Seaman 2nd Class Ryan Dela Cruz recalled taking in a young man who wanted to check his on grandfather who had been left inside their house.

“He said he had told his grandfather to stay put in the house and make sure to lock all the windows and never open them,” he said.

“When we checked out the house, the windows were open, and he had apparently drowned,” Dela Cruz said. The man, whose name he never got, wept in regret, he added.

Doco said they had gotten used to rescue missions and had learned long ago not to be swept by emotion.

“I also participated in the Princess of the Stars mission, so I’m used to this kind of situation. I have to be professional and not be emotional,” he said.

But he added that inwardly, he always “talked” to the corpses they discover, especially when they could not be retrieved immediately. “I tell them: ‘I’m sorry. We can’t get you now, but I promise we’ll be back,’” he said. “It’s my way of honoring them,” Doco said.

The toll of harrowing rescue missions could also hit hard: "There came a point where I began having nightmares about them," he said.

returningthefavor

September 28th, 2009, 10:23 AM

le Reine

September 28th, 2009, 11:22 AM

I'm just wondering, what happened to Katipunan Station of MRT 2 and Ayala and Buendia Stations of LRT 3?

ArkiLurker

September 28th, 2009, 11:56 AM

Sana dahil sa pinsala at abala na idinulot ng bagyong Ondoy, makita na ng mga nasa posisyon diyan sa Rizal at nang ating Gubyerno ang kahalagahan sa pag sulong sa pag papatayo ng MRT 8 at yung extension ng MRT 2 hanggang Masinag. Kung May MRT na sa mga lugar na yan, mas nabawasan siguro ang mga taong na apektuhan ng bagyo.

TheNicoVillanueva

September 28th, 2009, 12:30 PM

naisip ko lang.. hindi ba light rail din ang mrt3? so can i call it lrt3? parang ung sa mrt2.. even if lrta operates it it should be called mrt2..

le Reine

September 28th, 2009, 02:03 PM

^^Yup. That's right.

han742

September 29th, 2009, 09:46 AM

LRT 3G...
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1600/img0035vs.jpg

connecting pedestrian bridge between LRT1 and MRT2...
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4707/img0038rp.jpg

han742

September 29th, 2009, 09:58 AM

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/9151/img0039dh.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9131/img0046ui.jpg

maganda pa rin nasa ibabaw ang riles...
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/263/img0047zk.jpg
(quiapo underpass)

happosai

September 29th, 2009, 10:01 AM

^^May mga na trap kayang sasakyan sa underpass?

han742

September 29th, 2009, 10:12 AM

wala naman siguro, hindi naman kagaya sa mga ilog at malapit dito na malakas talaga ang agos nung kasagsagan ng bagyo,

han742

September 29th, 2009, 10:19 AM

Balintawak / Cloverleaf area...
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/5879/img0002kg.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1996/img0004qhy.jpg

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9049/img0005fb.jpg

Bagong Barrio...
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/7796/img0006jx.jpg

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1746/img0007ot.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1940/img0008xh.jpg

Bahay_Kubo

September 29th, 2009, 12:03 PM

^^May mga na trap kayang sasakyan sa underpass?

yung kakilala ko na taga-City Hall, sinabi niya na may mga na-trap daw na mga sasakyan sa Quiapo Underpass. yung isa daw dun ay isang taxi na tumirik sa ilalim noong nagsimula nang tumaas ang baha kaya iniwan na lang ng driver (na tumakbo daw papuntang Lerma). no word on the passenger of the said taxi.

well anyway, i am just curious. bakit yung LRT-1 ang binigyan ng extension hanggang North Avenue? hindi ba dapat yung MRT ang extended hanggang Monumento, eventually forming some sort of a loop with LRT-1?

RonnieR

September 29th, 2009, 12:05 PM

^^ cool updates. Grabe pala ang Quiapo underpass....can't imagine....Thanks han742

edly

September 29th, 2009, 01:15 PM

^^MRT-3 extension (Phase 2) is the real (intended) plan to close the loop. Unfortunately, the problem regarding MRTC (MRT3 operator) and the National Gov't arise on whether it will be BOT or BLT. They disagreed on this and definitely the original construction phase (about 2005) lapsed. Besides, MRTC has no money to continue the phase 2. So the LRTA Proceed by extending its northern part towards North Avenue station of MRT 3.

han742

September 29th, 2009, 01:41 PM

Monumento area...
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3215/img0016xh.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7192/img0015gt.jpg

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/811/img0014bx.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5870/img0013l.jpg

...
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/1052/img0012ec.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6717/img0009ph.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5480/img0010ri.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9112/img0011bv.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/2478/img0017tj.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3199/img0018ox.jpg

the curve...
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/769/img0020iz.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4733/img0021za.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6966/img0022ze.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8519/img0023mu.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9444/img0024ec.jpg

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/12/img0026mt.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/3964/img0027vi.jpg

:storm::storm::storm:

han742

September 29th, 2009, 01:47 PM

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2608/img0034oj.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/img0034oj.jpg/)
(recto-rizal avenue connection):)

evilgenius15

September 29th, 2009, 02:30 PM

^^
doon sa first 4 pics... (bago yung rizal-recto int.)
wala ba talagang road signs na nakakabit sa post na yun or
hinagupit ni ondoy?

happosai

September 29th, 2009, 04:30 PM

^^Han... Hinintay mo ba talaga magkasalubong yung LRT 3G at MRT2?

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/263/img0047zk.jpg

^^I like those shots... Galing mo talaga Han.... :banana:

mr.suroy

September 29th, 2009, 05:54 PM

ang hinahanap kong shot eh lrt2 over mrt3 sa cubao.:)

happosai

September 29th, 2009, 06:08 PM

^^Magandang shot din yan... Pero saan building ito magandang kuhanan ng pic?
Isa pang shot na gusto ko kuhanan ng pic yung MRT2 over PNR sa Sta. Mesa... :D

edly

September 30th, 2009, 06:11 AM

@Han, thanks again for the updates, especially in Monumento area. Glad to see the 'curve' is really taking shape. It is also good to know that the NEP area has not been much affected by the flooding due to Ondoy. Hope to see this up and running by year end or early next year.

edly

September 30th, 2009, 11:00 AM

Project Updates

The LRT Line 1 North Extension Project

BRIEF DESCRIPTION:

The Project involves the construction of a 5.7-km. elevated line seamlessly from Monumento Station of Line 1 to North Avenue Station of Line 3, with three (3) new stations namely: Balintawak, Roosevelt and a Common Station in front of SM Annex North EDSA plus Malvar Station in Caloocan City.

PROJECT COST:

P 6,322.85 Million (excluding cost of the Malvar and Common Station)

CONSTRUCTION PACKAGES:
Package A: Construction of Viaduct and Pedestrian Overpasses
Package A1 (km 15.133 to km 17.870)(Caloocan to Balintawak Area)
Package A2 (km 17.870 to km 20.614)(Balintawak to Trinoma Area)

Package B: Construction of Stations and Stations Modifications

Package C: Electro-Mechanical Works
EMS - 1: Signaling
EMS - 2: Telecommunications
EMS - 3: Automated Fare Collection System
EMS - 4: Trackworks

PROJECT DURATION:

2007 - 2010 (excluding Defects and Liability Period

PERFORMANCE ACCOMPLISHMENT:
Actual
Accomplishment
(As of Aug. 13, 2009)
Package A1(Construction of Viaduct & Pedestrian Overpasses -
Caloocan to Balintawak Area)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 68.74%
Package A2 (Balintawak to Trinoma Area)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 73.67%
Package B (Construction of Stations and Stations Modifications)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 27.16%
Package C (revised)
Awarde to Miescor/ GTC JV 16.60%
EMS - 1: (Signaling)
Awarded to Siemens-Beta and DMCI JV Mobilization on-going
EMS - 2: (Telecommunications)
Awarded to Alcatel-Lucent Phils. 12.92%
EMS - 3: (AFCS)
Awarde to AP Trans SA 44.52%
EMS - 4: (Trackworks)
Awarded to Daxi-Frateur de Pourcq JV 46.69%
TOTAL PECRCENTAGE OF THE PROJECT 48.27%
STATUS OF THE PROJECT (as of June 2009):

1. Total Fund Releases as of June 29, 2009:
SARO...................P6,322.84 M
NCA................... 2,378.68 M
Actual................ 2,030.31 M

2. 24 Hour/7 Day Schedule Implemented

3. On the Common Station at SM Annex
- Approved by the NEDA ICC-CC
- Confirmed by the NEDA Board on July 7, 2009

4. On the Additional Station (Malvar Station)
- On going preparation of the feasibility study

TARGETS:

1. Acceleration Program to be implemented for the commercial operation by February 2010 from the original schedule of May 2010

2. Commissioning targeted by December 31, 2009

3. Revenue operation by February 2010 (Balintawak and Roosevelt Station only)
For more Information

Please contact:
Engr. Federico J. Canar
Project Manager
Tel. # +63(2)851-7338 or at
Tel. # +63(2)853-0042 local 8888

Source: http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/proj_l1northext.htm

cq40

September 30th, 2009, 12:41 PM

han742

October 1st, 2009, 06:08 AM

^^ cool updates. Grabe pala ang Quiapo underpass....can't imagine....Thanks han742

ok:)

^^
doon sa first 4 pics... (bago yung rizal-recto int.)
wala ba talagang road signs na nakakabit sa post na yun or
hinagupit ni ondoy?

parang dati na itong wala kasi sa nauna kong pics dito nakadikit pa naman ang mga signboards,

^^Han... Hinintay mo ba talaga magkasalubong yung LRT 3G at MRT2?

^^I like those shots... Galing mo talaga Han.... :banana:
hindi naman matagal nagsalubong ang dalawang ito,
thanks:)

@Han, thanks again for the updates, especially in Monumento area. Glad to see the 'curve' is really taking shape. It is also good to know that the NEP area has not been much affected by the flooding due to Ondoy. Hope to see this up and running by year end or early next year.

ok,:)

dewlin07

October 1st, 2009, 08:37 AM

meron lrt or mrt na nakaconnect para sa city of valenzuela?? parang wala eh.... sana maisagawa nila ung mrt o lrt kahit lang sa mac arthur hwy, maysan road na papuntang novaliches... para naman iwas o kumunti ang traffic sa kalsada....
:)

barrera_marquez

October 1st, 2009, 03:32 PM