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ruralvillage

November 19th, 2009, 05:00 AM

Joint venture deal eyed for LRT 1 extension (http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/business/6216-joint-venture-deal-eyed-for-lrt-1-extension-)
Thursday, 19 November 2009 00:00
BY DARWIN G. AMOJELAR SENIOR REPORTER
Manila Times (http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/business/6216-joint-venture-deal-eyed-for-lrt-1-extension-)

STATE-OWNED Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) on Wednesday said a group of local and foreign companies are interested in forging a joint venture with the government to construct the multibillion-dollar southward extension of the Philippines’ first overhead rail system. In a telephone interview, Mel-quiades Robles, LRTA administrator said the agency is evaluating the unsolicited proposal of Ecorail Inc. to finance the $1.88-billion LRT Line 1 South Extension Project.

Robles did not disclose who owns Ecorail.

In the said proposal, Robles said the project is to be financed under a joint venture agreement between the government through LRTA.

Earlier, the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) proposed that Chinese official development assistance (ODA) be used to finance the project.

Arroyo Cabinet members, however, decided to implement the project through a public private partnership (PPP) scheme. The revision came on the heels of the government’s fiscal straits.

A value, engineering and risk analysis done by the Consultants of Castalia Advisory Group showed that at least $200 million will be saved if the project were implemented through the PPP.

An interagency committee formed by the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) commissioned the consultant.

The project aims to extend the existing 15-kilometer LRT 1 by an additional 11.7 kilometers, of which about 10.5 kilometers will be elevated and 1.2 kilometers will be at-grade.

The extension will start from the existing line’s last station at Baclaran and will traverse the cities of Parañaque and Las Piñas in Metro Manila before reaching the municipality of Bacoor, Cavite.

The project will include eight new passenger stations, with provision for two additional stations. It is expected to serve 800,000 passengers a day and cut travel time to less than an hour from Bacoor to Monumento, Caloocan City.

The LRTA is also eyeing Land Bank of the Philippines, Development Bank of the Philippines or the Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA) to finance the extension of the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Line 2 from Pasig to Rizal.

Marubeni Philippines Corp. is doing a feasibility study on it that would be completed by February next year.

The MRT 2 extension project, which will cost about P9.43 billion, involves the construction of a four-kilometer extension from Santolan to Masinag Market in Antipolo, along the centerline of Marcos Highway with the same design parameters as the original Line 2.

LRTA targets to start the project in January 2011.

The agency said that only two stations will be constructed, namely MC Station, which will straddle Imelda Avenue adjoining Robinson’s East Mall and the Sta. Lucia East Mall in Cainta, and the Silangan Station near the Masinag Market at the crossroad of Marcos and Sumulong highways.

The existing MRT 2 or Megatren traverses Pasig, Marikina, Quezon City, San Juan and Manila, through the major thoroughfares of Marcos Highway, Aurora Boulevard, Ramon Magsaysay Boulevard, Legarda Street and Recto Avenue

RonnieR

November 19th, 2009, 05:16 AM

...and it is the most important gap of them all! I can't wait for it to be closed! Its going to be one of the most beautiful things you'll see in Metro Manila.... ;)

Very true. The loop is now completed. I'm extremely happy.
:cheers:

RonnieR

November 19th, 2009, 05:19 AM

chris_nigel

November 19th, 2009, 05:46 AM

sana direcho yung East Extension to Cogeo..para ayus

edly

November 19th, 2009, 07:59 AM

^^Both extensions are indeed essential. Hopefully the government keeps up with the original construction time targets. I still keep my fingers crossed on it.

adgaps

November 19th, 2009, 11:43 AM

napagdugtong na ba yung gap between LRT1 and MRT3?

sulong

November 19th, 2009, 01:34 PM

Magandang gabi po sa lahat!

Malapit na isara ang loop! Nakita ko kanina na nakahanda sa tabi ang last "bar" ('di ko alam ang tawag dun) na magsasara nung gap.

Mga larawan as of today, ika-19 ng Nobyembre 2009. One step closing sa mas madaling paglalakbay sa loob ng Metro Manila :banana:

Ang Huling Puwang (The Last Gap)

http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz346/sulong12/11192009033.jpg

http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz346/sulong12/11192009032_2.jpg

http://i842.photobucket.com/albums/zz346/sulong12/11192009034_2.jpg

lochinvar

November 19th, 2009, 01:40 PM

Maybe it would be great if the Marikina SM Mall has an access to the LRT2?

edly

November 19th, 2009, 01:41 PM

^^IMO, direct access to SM Marikina wouldn't be necessary since a foot bridge has already been installed to Santolan Station from SM Marikina.

@Sulong: The pics cannot be seen. Sayang.

kratos1211

November 19th, 2009, 01:45 PM

Maybe it would be great if the Marikina SM Mall has an access to the LRT2?

SM is currently building a very long pedestrian walkway all the way to LRT2 santolan station.

sulong

November 19th, 2009, 01:46 PM

paano po ba ilagay properly yung pics? 'di ako marunong. T_T

EDIT: Naayos ko na =)

Sky Harbor

November 19th, 2009, 01:53 PM

SM is currently building a very long pedestrian walkway all the way to LRT2 santolan station.

If I remember correctly, this very long walkway has been in service for a few months now.

kratos1211

November 19th, 2009, 01:54 PM

csc36869

November 19th, 2009, 03:03 PM

flip2_0

November 19th, 2009, 05:54 PM

Nice pics!!

Tingin ko mgkakaruon ng ceremony sa paglalagay ng last "bar" na to..malamang kasama si GMA para sa ceremonial loop closing.

Yeah, hopefully parang iyong early morning visit noon ni GMA sa EDSA Munoz to inspect the LRT North Extension construction.

BergenScooterPatrol

November 20th, 2009, 12:26 AM

Bikes, trains, and fewer cars with LRT’s Bike O2 project
SOPHIA M. DEDACE, GMANews.TV
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/177274/bikes-trains-and-fewer-cars-with-lrts-bike-o2-project

http://www.gmanews.tv/webpics/infotech/lrtbikeproject1.jpg

From his New Manila home, bicycle enthusiast Jojo Gutierrez used to ride a jeepney to LRT-2’s Gilmore train station. These days, however, he has been happily pedaling his way to and from any LRT train station to reach his destination for the day.

Anyone who has a folding bike can easily follow Gutierrez’s tracks, thanks to the “Bike On, Bike Off" or “Bike O2" project of the Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) that was launched last Nov. 8. The project allows passengers to bring foldable bicycles inside the train to cut travel time and lessen carbon emissions from motor vehicles.

“We are able to save on transportation costs by using bikes as an alternative to cars," said Gutierrez, who heads the University of the Philippines’ Mountaineers Padyak Project. “The project’s also good for the health because it promotes exercise, and for the environment because it reduces pollution."

Under the novel scheme, the last coach of every train has been dubbed as the “green zone" to accommodate folding bike users at no extra cost. [See: Guidelines for Bike O2 project]

The LRT has two routes: the LRT-Line 1 (yellow line) that stretches from Baclaran in Parañaque City to Monumento in Caloocan City, and LRT-Line 2 (purple line) that starts from Recto in Manila City and ends at Santolan in Marikina City.

Businessman-cyclist Pio Fortuno also waxes enthusiasm about the new opportunity. “If we can convince one person to leave his car and use the bike instead to go the LRT, that’s one less car off the road. It lessens the traffic and we have better air," he said.

Fortuno is a member of Padyak as wells as the Firefly Brigade, a group of bicycle enthusiasts. They are now starting to organize the Tiklop Society, which promotes the use of folding bikes to ply Manila’s streets.

A former resident of New York City, Fortuno said the Bike 02 project in the Philippines is the realization of a dream. “I used to take the subway in New York, where I first experienced something like this. I once dreamed that this will come true in Manila," he enthuses.

While he acknowledges some difficulties, such as having to squeeze in the foldable bikes inside the train during rush hours, Fortuno said the benefits far outweigh them.

“So far, everything has been positive. Everything is do-able. You can also prevent the minor inconveniences because the bikes can fit between your legs," Fortuno said. Only four bikes are allowed if the coach is too crowded.

To cope with Manila’s chaotic traffic and undisciplined drivers, Gutierrez said the UP Padyak is also thinking of ways to reduce the risks for cyclists as they pedal around the city’s streets.

“We have been plotting safe routes for the bikers to avoid vehicles making a mad dash on the streets," he said.

In a statement, LRTA administrator Melquiades Robles enjoined motorists to leave their vehicles at home, hop into the trains, and use bikes instead of walking when going to their destinations.

“While one can use the LRT and enjoy economy and speed, one still has to walk to his intended destination. But with the Bike-O2, you can enjoy fast, efficient, economical and environmental friendly mode of transportation while at the same time giving you the same personal mobility that you enjoy with a car, not to mention the health and environmental benefits that you will gain from it," Robles said.

No plans for MRT yet

Meanwhile, the Manila Rail Transit (MRT) has no plans yet of creating an eco-friendly project similar to the LRTA’s initiative.

In a telephone interview with GMANews.TV, MRT-Line 3’s public relations officer Lysa Blancaflor said, “Sa ngayon, hindi pa napapag-usapan talaga (As of now, it has not been discussed yet)."

The MRT-3 (blue line) traverses the Epifanio delos Santos Avenue and has 13 stations from North Avenue in Quezon City to Taft Avenue in Pasay City.

Blancaflor said the MRT’s congested trains prevent the transport system from implementing a project. According to MRT records, during the month of September 2009, the blue line carried 12.69 million passengers, with a daily average of 423,152 passengers.

The figure is just slightly lower than that for the LRT’s yellow line, which carried 12.85 million passengers for the same month. In contrast, the purple line had only 5.27 million passengers during the same period. The LRTA has no data of daily average number of passion both lines’ daily ridership average.

Blancaflor said the MRT considers bicycles, even foldable ones, as “bulky items" that are prohibited inside the trains.

“Bulky items take up the space that can be occupied by one person, and the foldable bikes take up the same amount of space," she said.

Blancaflor said allowing the bicycles inside their coaches would only aggravate the congestion problem in the mass transport system. Interestingly, the LRT is able to carry bikes even though its Line 1 has more passengers than the MRT. - GMANews.TV

Sky Harbor

November 20th, 2009, 01:29 AM

Antipolo-Tondo LRT extension eyed: Marubeni doing feasibility study (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20091119-237271/Antipolo-Tondo-LRT-extension-eyed)

By Paolo Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:42:00 11/19/2009

Filed Under: Transport

THE LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT AUthority (LRTA) is considering the extension on both ends of its Marikina-to-Manila overhead train system for it to reach from the North Harbor area in Tondo to Antipolo City in Rizal.

LRTA administrator Melquidades Robles said industrial firm Marubeni Philippines Corp. is currently conducting a feasibility study on lengthening the LRT Line 2 system to extend the reach of the mass transport system.

The plan under study calls for extending the LRT-2 westward to the North Harbor in Manila’s Tondo district, and eastward to Antipolo’s Masinag junction.

“The impact of this is big. We’ll be connecting the sea to the mountains,” Robles said in an interview on Thursday.

He said the costs for the on-going study, which started two months ago, are being shouldered by the Japanese government through a grant. The official, however, declined to give details regarding the grant.

“We still don’t know what mode will be used [to fund the project],” Robles said, noting that the important element at this point is to get the technical specifications of the plan clearly mapped out.

“The study is ongoing and we’re just waiting for their feedback,” Robles said, referring to the local subsidiary of one of Japan’s largest trading firms, Marubeni Corp.

The extension to Tondo and Antipolo, Rizal, had been part of the original plans for LRT-2, which is the country’s newest but least utilized train system.

LRT-2 currently runs 13.8 kilometers and traverses five cities in Metro Manila, namely Pasig, Marikina, Quezon City, San Juan and Manila along the major thoroughfares of Marcos Highway, Aurora Boulevard, Ramon Magsaysay Boulevard, Legarda and Recto Avenue.

Other overhead train systems in the metro are the LRT’s Line 1, the 15-kilometer system from Monumento in Caloocan to Baclaran in Parañaque, along Taft and Rizal Avenues.

The Metro Rail Transit or MRT system meanwhile, travels along Edsa from its intersection with Taft Avenue in Pasay to North Avenue in Quezon City. This was built to help decongest Metro Manila’s main thoroughfare.

ionmarx

November 20th, 2009, 01:33 AM

julzandrew

November 20th, 2009, 02:27 AM

when will the south extension start?

jpdm

November 20th, 2009, 02:39 AM

jpdm

November 20th, 2009, 02:47 AM

Antipolo-Tondo LRT extension eyed

Marubeni doing feasibility study
By Paolo Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:42:00 11/19/2009

THE LIGHT RAIL TRANSIT AUthority (LRTA) is considering the extension on both ends of its Marikina-to-Manila overhead train system for it to reach from the North Harbor area in Tondo to Antipolo City in Rizal.

LRTA administrator Melquidades Robles said industrial firm Marubeni Philippines Corp. is currently conducting a feasibility study on lengthening the LRT Line 2 system to extend the reach of the mass transport system.

The plan under study calls for extending the LRT-2 westward to the North Harbor in Manila’s Tondo district, and eastward to Antipolo’s Masinag junction.

“The impact of this is big. We’ll be connecting the sea to the mountains,” Robles said in an interview on Thursday.

He said the costs for the on-going study, which started two months ago, are being shouldered by the Japanese government through a grant. The official, however, declined to give details regarding the grant.

“We still don’t know what mode will be used [to fund the project],” Robles said, noting that the important element at this point is to get the technical specifications of the plan clearly mapped out.

“The study is ongoing and we’re just waiting for their feedback,” Robles said, referring to the local subsidiary of one of Japan’s largest trading firms, Marubeni Corp.

The extension to Tondo and Antipolo, Rizal, had been part of the original plans for LRT-2, which is the country’s newest but least utilized train system.

LRT-2 currently runs 13.8 kilometers and traverses five cities in Metro Manila, namely Pasig, Marikina, Quezon City, San Juan and Manila along the major thoroughfares of Marcos Highway, Aurora Boulevard, Ramon Magsaysay Boulevard, Legarda and Recto Avenue.

Other overhead train systems in the metro are the LRT’s Line 1, the 15-kilometer system from Monumento in Caloocan to Baclaran in Parañaque, along Taft and Rizal Avenues.

The Metro Rail Transit or MRT system meanwhile, travels along Edsa from its intersection with Taft Avenue in Pasay to North Avenue in Quezon City. This was built to help decongest Metro Manila’s main thoroughfare.

edly

November 20th, 2009, 03:41 AM

^^This is one great move by the LRTA. Having extension on both ends of LRT-2 is an absolute help for the people transversing the Manila-Suburb route. This is not already new since it was stated in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_LRT_Purple_Line

This time, the LRTA is keen on implementing this. :cheers:

queetz@home

November 20th, 2009, 03:55 AM

While the extension of LRT2 towards Antipolo is pretty much a sure thing, I really hope the extension to North Harbour would also take place and soon. Old Manila is extremely chaotic when it comes to traffic, there is simply no way around it given the age of the city, its history, the current way it was rebuilt since WW2, and the sheer density.

You can't widen the roads, you can't add buses, and it will only densify further regardless of the economy so the only way out of its transportation problems is to enable LRT2 to take the pressure off by providing a fast, elevated means to move people. Frankly, even an extension by one station, say to the Divisoria area, will make such a huge impact in improving the lives of countless people. I do hope they make it happen sooner rather than later...

edly

November 20th, 2009, 04:01 AM

wheel of steel

November 20th, 2009, 04:30 AM

hecky12

November 20th, 2009, 04:45 AM

waaahhh.. tapos na pala ito..bago mag pasko ba e close na ang loop? so ibig sabihin.. yung tren ng lrt1 can go to the railways of mrt3?

wheel of steel

November 20th, 2009, 04:47 AM

The closing of the loop will have a very big impact on LRT ridership. It will be a block buster.... Im feeling it right now... :cheers:

wheel of steel

November 20th, 2009, 04:48 AM

They should have done this during the construction period of LRT2, in order to save money & time. The end result now is the underutilization of the country's most modern metro system... Albeit this move of the LRTA means they're really serious on the extensions... Together with south extension of LRT1, these will be great impacts on mass transport system here in the Metropolis.

That's exactly correct edly. Actually, LRT2 is not exactly a light rail but i'ts a heavy railway rolling stocks running on superstructures that supports heavy railway. It's only that LRT2 line is not shared and for exclusively a metro use only.

RonnieR

November 20th, 2009, 06:07 AM

in_a_rush

November 20th, 2009, 07:15 AM

kung ngayon lang kinonsider to that means it will take years bago ma-implement. knowing our govt. but still a good news.. it will compliment the on going modernzation of our port.

phichanad

November 20th, 2009, 08:53 AM

is there a station already under construction? Parang i havent seen any station pix in this forum e.

adgaps

November 20th, 2009, 09:41 AM

is there a station already under construction? Parang i havent seen any station pix in this forum e.

^^ mejo nabubuo na ang magiging flooring ng Balintawak station... as for Roosevelt station, pansamantalang tinigil ang construction dun para unahin yung Balintawak station...

flip2_0

November 20th, 2009, 09:42 AM

is there a station already under construction? Parang i havent seen any station pix in this forum e.

The Balintawak and Munoz LRT stations slowly taking shape...

posted last October 7th by lil dreamer boy

Workers contructing the y-beamed posts in Munoz
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL396/7406956/14674339/375573856.jpg

Y-Beams with Parallel beams.... hay puro beams beams beams di ko kase alam kung ano tawag sa mga yan... sensya na hehe
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL396/7406956/14674339/375573855.jpg

A closer look at the parallel beams
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL396/7406956/14674339/375573859.jpg

Fraulein

November 20th, 2009, 09:50 AM

The Balintawak station is slowly taking shape...

Any pics?

flip2_0

November 20th, 2009, 10:14 AM

Any pics?

Get it here

http://66.249.128.91/showpost.php?p=44244790&postcount=11031

jpdm

November 20th, 2009, 12:45 PM

Romero group ventures into mass transit business

Friday, 20 November 2009 00:00
BY CHINO S. LEYCO REPORTER
Manila Times

AFTER port operations, mining and construction, the group of Reghis Romero 2nd is venturing into the mass transport business with its unsolicited proposal to undertake the extension south of Manila of the Philippines’ first overhead Light Rail Transit (LRT). In a telephone interview, Jerome Canlas, Ecorail Transport Services Inc. treasurer, confirmed a Manila
Times report that the company submitted an unsolicited proposal to Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) for the extension of the existing service of LRT Line 1 to Parañaque, Las Piñas, up to the municipalities of Bacoor, Imus and Dasmariñas in Cavite.

The proposal to undertake the $1.88-billion project with state-run LRTA would fall under Executive Order 423, which authorized Joint Venture Agreements (JVA) between the government and private entities on public infrastructure projects.

The project will extend the existing 15-kilometer LRT 1 by an additional 11.7 kilometers, of which about 10.5 kilometers will be elevated and 1.2 kilometers will be at-grade.

In a document obtained by The Times, Romero 2nd, his sons Michael and Nathaniel, Canlas and Arthur Pascua 2nd sit as directors of Ecorail.

The company has a paid up capital of P500 million, and was registered in June this year.

Its primary purpose is to engage in construction, operating, maintaining, coordinating, rendering technical expertise in the implementation of railway systems.

Ecorail also said that it has the capacity to raise money to meet the financial requirements of its business.
Earlier, the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) proposed that the project be funded through Chinese official development assistance (ODA).

But the Cabinet decided to implement the project through the JVA scheme amid the government’s fiscal straits.

At end-October, the government already breached its full-year budget deficit ceiling of P250 billion.

Melquiades Robles, LRTA administrator said the agency is evaluating the unsolicited proposal of Ecorail.

A value, engineering and risk analysis done by the Consultants of Castalia Advisory Group showed that at least $200 million will be saved if the project were implemented through the JVA scheme.

Romero 2nd owns R-II Builders Inc., which transformed the Smokey Mountain garbage dump in Manila into a housing project and an industrial park known as Manila Harbour Centre.

His company, Harbour Centre Port Terminal Inc. earlier tied up with Manuel Pangilinan-led Metro Pacifi
c Investments Corp. (MPIC) to secure the contract to modernize and operate the Manila North Harbor.

The consortium is supposed to invest P14.5 billion in the North Harbor port in Tondo, Manila.

The Romeros also own Pacifica Inc., a publicly listed company formed to undertake investments in the mining sector.

adgaps

November 20th, 2009, 12:57 PM

AFTER port operations, mining and construction, the group of Reghis Romero 2nd is venturing into the mass transport business with its unsolicited proposal to undertake the extension south of Manila of the Philippines’ first overhead Light Rail Transit (LRT). In a telephone interview, Jerome Canlas, Ecorail Transport Services Inc. treasurer, confirmed a Manila
Times report that the company submitted an unsolicited proposal to Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) for the extension of the existing service of LRT Line 1 to Parañaque, Las Piñas, up to the municipalities of Bacoor, Imus and Dasmariñas in Cavite.

^^ wow! uber haba na ng LRT kapag nagkaganyan!! :banana::banana:

but, come to think of it, those areas in the south sure needs a faster means of transportation...

my father once told us about his horrible traffic experience in Aguinaldo highway... when we went to Tagaytay early this year, sa Aguinaldo Highway dumaan yung sasakyan namin... i noticed na 2-lanes lang sya each side... i believe it's quite narrow for a major road that connects a province (Cavite) with Metro Manila...

kaso, saan ang right of way nyan? as i said, masikip sa Aguinaldo Highway...

happosai

November 21st, 2009, 07:36 AM

Antipolo-Tondo LRT extension eyed

^^Magandang balita yan!! Pero parang nakakalimutan na yata ang LRT1 South Extension project.... :ohno::ohno:

dewlin07

November 21st, 2009, 08:44 AM

^^IMO, Metro Manila needs 6-8 lines of LRT/MRT to address the transport needs of the people, and to replace the pollutive jeepneys & buses on major roads.

I agree on that. Lalo na yung mga jeepneys at buses.... sila ang nagdudulot ng traffic at air pollution sa Metro Manila ngayon. LALO NA YUNG MGA IRRESPONSIBLE JEEPNEYS!! DAPAT NA PALITAN YAN!! Lalo na yung mga jeepneys... irresponsible at maingay pa yung tambucho nila.... LRT and MRT really makes the transportation more easier....

victorlachica

November 21st, 2009, 09:18 AM

The Balintawak station is slowly taking shape...

posted last October 7th by lil dreamer boy

Workers contructing the y-beamed posts in Munoz
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL396/7406956/14674339/375573856.jpg

Y-Beams with Parallel beams.... hay puro beams beams beams di ko kase alam kung ano tawag sa mga yan... sensya na hehe
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL396/7406956/14674339/375573855.jpg

A closer look at the parallel beams
http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL396/7406956/14674339/375573859.jpg

Girder po ang tawag

sulong

November 21st, 2009, 04:51 PM

Magandang gabi po sa lahat!

Closing the loop update: Tinanggal na 'yung billboard ad sa may MRT, tho nandun pa yung lalagyan ng billboard.

ukol naman sa LRT2 extension, nakaka-excite ang kinabukasan ng public transport sa metro manila. salamat sa lrt 1 and 2, ang dali na lang pumunta sa SM Marikina mula Monumento, at kadalasan in less than 1 1/2 hours. =)

oreotm

November 21st, 2009, 07:07 PM

tanong ko lang po bat parang kinoconnect ung LRT sa MRT?? or may iba pang plan dun?

railadvocate

November 21st, 2009, 09:31 PM

Sana pra maging tunay na loop ang mrt-lrt, iconnect nila ang rails ng mrt lrt sa edsa taft area and imerge un taft and edsa stations pra seamless tlga un travel. Benefits of this will include: 1). Aesthetically more pleasing, 2). more trains since mga lrt trains mkkapunta na sa mrt tracks, 3) and convenience to commuters.

As for Baclaran Station, gawin na itong station ng south extension project. And gwan nila ng 1 station sa kanto ule ng edsa-taft to connect mrt-lrt with the south extension.

What do u think? :righton:

queetz@home

November 21st, 2009, 10:43 PM

^^ This has been discussed so many times already. Its the one that makes the most perfect sense, but since MRT and LRT is operated by two different agencies at the moment, it ain't happening. The trains are compatible, that's for sure, and there was even a proposal for LRT1 to "donate" some of their older Imelda Marcos era train coaches to MRT3 to help the latter cope with the ridiculous high volumes of passengers along its route.

The rails will most likely be connected as per the NEDA press release for a "possible rail operation between the two lines" but passengers will still need to transfer. Otherwise, what is the point of building the Grand Central Terminal now (since LRT7 is not underconstruction yet) if you can simply hop at Monumento Station of LRT1 and get off at Quezon Avenue Station of MRT3 without leaving the train?

edly

November 21st, 2009, 11:23 PM

Magandang gabi po sa lahat!

Closing the loop update: Tinanggal na 'yung billboard ad sa may MRT, tho nandun pa yung lalagyan ng billboard.

That's really great news! So we can expect that that the 'loop ' is finally closed by next week. Can't wait to see this. Next to witness are the installation of rails and completion of stations, at least Balintawak and Roosevelt stations.:cheers:

kaelthas18

November 22nd, 2009, 02:50 AM

extinct naba ang bagong barrio station?

kaelthas18

November 22nd, 2009, 02:54 AM

kaelthas18

November 22nd, 2009, 02:58 AM

kaelthas18

November 22nd, 2009, 03:00 AM

I agree on that. Lalo na yung mga jeepneys at buses.... sila ang nagdudulot ng traffic at air pollution sa Metro Manila ngayon. LALO NA YUNG MGA IRRESPONSIBLE JEEPNEYS!! DAPAT NA PALITAN YAN!! Lalo na yung mga jeepneys... irresponsible at maingay pa yung tambucho nila.... LRT and MRT really makes the transportation more easier....

kasi irresponsible din mga drivers , try to educate them tingnan natin kung ano mangyari.. most of them live in informal settlers area, at kadalasan they don't own the jeepneys. Anyways how about LRT7, kelan ba start na nyan?

NicknameForLife

November 22nd, 2009, 04:56 AM

^^ last friday... pumunta kami ng NoE... ung mga segments isa na lng tapos na... kabit-kabit na hanggang North Ave. Station.. bilis....

queetz@home

November 22nd, 2009, 04:57 AM

divisoria was on the original plan before... naubusan ata ng budget... if i were aroyo sana gnawa nya na din ito together with the lrt1 north extension, kahit na madami sya kasalanan atleast she has done something din

I think the budget was only part of it but clearly this was something that can be fixed. The main issue that stopped it back then was a certain mayor called Lito Atienza that was against it. He was so into the urban renewal and pedestrian oriented movement, which is not a bad thing. The city of Manila actually became kickass during his reign. There was even a very awesome discussion thread here in SSC Philippines called "Reviving downtown Manila", which is perhaps the best urban discussion thread I've seen about a Philippine city (sadly, the thread was lost when the Philippine forums were hacked through GreyX's account).

But this school of thought also means elevated rail systems are a big no no, something which Atienza religiously followed. After all, the construction of the original LRT1 by Imelda Marcos really did kill the urban life of downtown Manila, turning its streets into the dark, sinister, decaying, Gotham City / Blade Runner like environment.

When mayor Lim took over, he reversed some of Atienza's policies, which is a bit sad. His priority was more on the efficient movement of traffic and people by whatever means necessary, rather than making cities lively and pedestrian oriented. But the good news is, we can continue building an elevated rail system in the city of Manila again, so as long as there is the money to extend LRT2 to Divisoria and beyond, there wouldn't be any opposition from Manila City Hall.

Coffee

November 22nd, 2009, 05:56 AM

It makes me sad to hear that the LRT-2 is underutilized, since it's by far the most comfortable and modern line. Is it seriously underused? In college I was using it all the time to get to Ateneo.

kaelthas18

November 22nd, 2009, 06:13 AM

sana maumpisahan na ang extension ng lrt2

kaelthas18

November 22nd, 2009, 06:14 AM

It makes me sad to hear that the LRT-2 is underutilized, since it's by far the most comfortable and modern line. Is it seriously underused? In college I was using it all the time to get to Ateneo.

under utilized kasi san ba galing ang mga "goods" na nakikita sa cubao, antipolo etc etc.. galing lahat yan sa divisoria and north harbor. Ang iba hindi na sila nag llrt2 kasi mabigat ang mga dala nila kaya sa jeep nlng nila sinasakay ang mga cargo nila. Tapos you need to ride a jeepney pa from the recto station to divisoria.. Same din sa santolan end station you need to ride a jeepney pa ulit if your going to sta lucia or antipolo. AKo i live in divisoria and how i wish sana inextend nlng dito ang lrt2. Kainis ang trafic dito kapag -ber months lalo na sa may recto-abadsantos.. Pag papasok ako sa office sa sanjuan mag jjeep pa ako sa recto usually napaka traffic sa Avenida sa umaga..:bash: Same with marcos hiway ang trapik trapik dyan lalo na kapag rush hour.. ang hirap pa sumakay ng jeep

kratos1211

November 22nd, 2009, 07:38 AM

^^Kaya hindi tinuloy noon ang ends ng MRT2 ay para sa political consideration sa mga jeepney association sa ruta na iyon at hindi magrally ang mga driver na maaapektuhan.

sulong

November 22nd, 2009, 07:52 AM

When mayor Lim took over, he reversed some of Atienza's policies, which is a bit sad. His priority was more on the efficient movement of traffic and people by whatever means necessary, rather than making cities lively and pedestrian oriented. But the good news is, we can continue building an elevated rail system in the city of Manila again, so as long as there is the money to extend LRT2 to Divisoria and beyond, there wouldn't be any opposition from Manila City Hall.

Hindi na ho ba kakayanin in the future na maging underground ang south extension ng LRT1? Gusto ko ang railway systems kasi ang laking convenience, kaso nasisira nga naman ang cityscape at ang buhay ng isang lugar IMO.

stiggerpao

November 22nd, 2009, 09:33 AM

taken last November 20 (lunch time)
nalate ng konti ang MRT-3 trains kaya yan ang ending..
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2596/dsc01244l.jpg

edly

November 22nd, 2009, 03:59 PM

^^Nice shot! Sayang lang at di nagkatapat ang trains ng MRT 2 & 3. Para silang ahas na gumagapang sa urban jungle.:lol:

stiggerpao

November 22nd, 2009, 06:05 PM

^^Nice shot! Sayang lang at di nagkatapat ang trains ng MRT 2 & 3. Para silang ahas na gumagapang sa urban jungle.:lol:

salamat! yun nga lang eh mahirap ang timing ng dalawang MRT system, nataon kasing nakita ko magsasalubong ang mga trains.. Pag tinignan nyo maigi apat na trains ang involved dyan (both directions) :D..

han742

November 22nd, 2009, 06:49 PM

Balintawak Station
18 Nov '09
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5332/img0058lv.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2669/img0059wm.jpg

21 Nov '09
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4841/img0089f.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9844/img0090ea.jpg

:banana::banana:

queetz@home

November 22nd, 2009, 07:19 PM

under utilized kasi san ba galing ang mga "goods" na nakikita sa cubao, antipolo etc etc.. galing lahat yan sa divisoria and north harbor. Ang iba hindi na sila nag llrt2 kasi mabigat ang mga dala nila kaya sa jeep nlng nila sinasakay ang mga cargo nila. Tapos you need to ride a jeepney pa from the recto station to divisoria.. Same din sa santolan end station you need to ride a jeepney pa ulit if your going to sta lucia or antipolo. AKo i live in divisoria and how i wish sana inextend nlng dito ang lrt2. Kainis ang trafic dito kapag -ber months lalo na sa may recto-abadsantos.. Pag papasok ako sa office sa sanjuan mag jjeep pa ako sa recto usually napaka traffic sa Avenida sa umaga..:bash: Same with marcos hiway ang trapik trapik dyan lalo na kapag rush hour.. ang hirap pa sumakay ng jeep

This is perhaps the best post to explain the issues with LRT2. Its the best rail line in the country, and yet politics got in the way on enabling people to really use it the way it was meant to be (sadly, this issue is not unique to Manila, Vancouver has something literally quite similar...at least in Manila, you didn't waste 2 billion dollars and cripplied much needed regional expansion plans as a result).

I just hope the LRTA does extend LRT2 to Divisoria soon and not be influenced by politicking and special interest groups so people like kaelthas18 won't have to deal with the antiquated jeepney transit system needlessly. Just imagine how awesome the Metro Manila transportation would be if we have modern rail rapid transit lines connecting every population centre in the metropolis instead on relying on these world war 2 era shuttle buses.

han742

November 22nd, 2009, 07:46 PM

"the gap":)
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9248/img0065rj.jpg

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1658/img0076a.jpg

busy above and below...
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http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3490/img0087cp.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6127/img0080p.jpg

preparing for the railtracks...
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http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2810/img0070pv.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3401/img0071l.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8534/img0072ef.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/8431/img0073zb.jpg

the very busy north :cheers:
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http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8569/img0078wj.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9320/img0088vr.jpg

:cheers:

railadvocate

November 22nd, 2009, 07:58 PM

queetz@home

November 22nd, 2009, 08:22 PM

^^ No, hindi pa same company even though the government now owns both. And yes, if they would absorb the MRTC with the LRTA, then it would be the same company and they can do whatever they want with the two lines, including letting LRT1 trains run at MRT3 tracks and vice versa. Until that happens, they are different entities, hence no one seat rides on the two lines. They can swap trains from time to time but there would be a formal agreement between the two, with some compensation arrangement for usage of tracks.

"the gap":)

preparing for the railtracks...
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5706/img0069vn.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2810/img0070pv.jpg

:cheers:

I wonder if they can actually complete the track works and electrical systems by December 31. You have to take into consideration the weather and the upcoming holidays into account. It seems they still have a long way to go and they are putting the tracks, not surprisingly, the "old fashion way", which is hard manual labour unlike the more automated systems they do in Europe (I saw a documentary where they laid new tracks and electrical systems in a matter of hours during the night using some fancy equipment, then the rail line was in service the same morning!)

happosai

November 23rd, 2009, 03:53 AM

preparing for the railtracks...
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5706/img0069vn.jpg

^^Thanks for the update han!! :banana:

Mukhang ballast-less track ang gagawin dito ah.. :banana:

wheel of steel

November 23rd, 2009, 04:35 AM

That's correct happsss... Concrete slab nga, unlike dun sa northrail, ballast slab yung gagawin. Depende kasi sa bigat ng mga tren...

edly

November 23rd, 2009, 07:14 AM

^^Great to see those pictures showing that LRT-NEP is accelerating to keep with the 2010 deadline. Yeah, I thought that they'll be using the machine which places the rails in an even faster pace. December is fast approaching, and they have to place tracks in a 5 km viaduct, against the shortest possible time.

edly

November 23rd, 2009, 07:16 AM

That's correct happsss... Concrete slab nga, unlike dun sa northrail, ballast slab yung gagawin. Depende kasi sa bigat ng mga tren...

Ask ko lang. Kung heavy rail utilizes the ballast slab, bakit yun ang ginamit sa old LRT at maging sa MRT? Ang Megatren ay ballastless din di ba?

Ecija

November 23rd, 2009, 08:30 AM

Ganda naman ng mga picture, parang scene sa mga construction project sa China super busy sila. Salamat sa updates.:cheers:

groundzero

November 23rd, 2009, 12:19 PM

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3162/fcarlo17815.jpg (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/fcarlo17815.jpg/)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/148/fcarlo17814.jpg (http://img22.imageshack.us/i/fcarlo17814.jpg/)
billboard frame now removed.
i have a feeling the last gap will be done by tonight.

flip2_0

November 23rd, 2009, 01:30 PM

billboard frame now removed.
i have a feeling the last gap will be done by tonight.

Sana may GMA visit/inspection sa area!

GMA! :cheer: GMA! :cheer: GMA! :cheer:

edly

November 24th, 2009, 03:28 AM

^^Just a question: What are the diggings beside Trinoma Parking Space for. Is this related to the GCT Construction or about the mall?

han742

November 24th, 2009, 04:37 AM

^^

I wonder if they can actually complete the track works and electrical systems by December 31. You have to take into consideration the weather and the upcoming holidays into account. It seems they still have a long way to go and they are putting the tracks, not surprisingly, the "old fashion way", which is hard manual labour unlike the more automated systems they do in Europe (I saw a documentary where they laid new tracks and electrical systems in a matter of hours during the night using some fancy equipment, then the rail line was in service the same morning!)

the way they do it, i think they are serious of meeting the deadline, credibility na nila nakasalalay dito, syempre kasama na rin ang safety ng mga trabahador at ang ginagawa nila,

^^Thanks for the update han!! :banana:

Mukhang ballast-less track ang gagawin dito ah.. :banana:

:cheers:

Ganda naman ng mga picture, parang scene sa mga construction project sa China super busy sila. Salamat sa updates.:cheers:

:cheers:

^^Just a question: What are the diggings beside Trinoma Parking Space for. Is this related to the GCT Construction or about the mall?

IMO, it is for the sake of Trinoma, maglalagay yata ng shade hanggang corner, business strategy na ito, dahil ang intersection ng EDSA-North at West Avenue ay magiging busy in the near future,:)

edly

November 24th, 2009, 04:51 AM

^^Sayang naman ang planning ng triNoMa with regards to GCT. IMO, Mas maganda sana kung nag-donate na lang ang Ayala Land ng parking space nila para dito ilagay ang GCT instead sa ibabaw ng EDSA. Didilim tuloy ang EDSA-North intersection nyan pag natapos na.:ohno:

narthuril

November 24th, 2009, 05:18 AM

elevated walkway ata yung gagawin ng trinoma sinabi na yun dito dati ata...

yung corner lot na yun dapat gawin nilang parang time square

dancethingy

November 24th, 2009, 05:43 AM

I wonder if they can actually complete the track works and electrical systems by December 31. You have to take into consideration the weather and the upcoming holidays into account. It seems they still have a long way to go and they are putting the tracks, not surprisingly, the "old fashion way", which is hard manual labour unlike the more automated systems they do in Europe (I saw a documentary where they laid new tracks and electrical systems in a matter of hours during the night using some fancy equipment, then the rail line was in service the same morning!)

The old fashioned way is better at providing our countrymen and women with jobs. I know the machine sounds much better, but they need the jobs, we can settle for the machine when we are wealthier.

pau_p1

November 24th, 2009, 10:58 AM

any news kung tuloy sa january ang commencement ni LRT7??

flip2_0

November 24th, 2009, 12:40 PM

the very busy north :cheers:
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9130/img0077x.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8569/img0078wj.jpg

IMO, it is for the sake of Trinoma, maglalagay yata ng shade hanggang corner, business strategy na ito, dahil ang intersection ng EDSA-North at West Avenue ay magiging busy in the near future,:)

Speaking of, is there also a long-term plan for a high rise above that trinoma structure??

leechtat

November 24th, 2009, 02:22 PM

took this before the billboard was removed:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8717/img4664medium.jpg

now, i wonder what is going to be built here on the trinoma side. would it be the central station?

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2527/img4667medium.jpg

barrera_marquez

November 24th, 2009, 04:15 PM

extinct naba ang bagong barrio station?

Under feasibility study pa rin ayon sa LRT.

Parehas silang delayed ng GCT... ganoon lang iyon.

nayki

November 24th, 2009, 08:21 PM

Pero nag start na iyong excavation sa side walks na pag lalagyan ng support columns ng GCT. So mukhang naiwanan na talaga iyong bagong barrio station.

kratos1211

November 25th, 2009, 04:46 AM

^^ Malapit na ata mag-start ang MRT 7

MRT system to link QC with Bulacan
By FREDDIE C. VELEZ
Manila Bulletin

SAN JOSE DEL MONTE CITY, Bulacan – Good news for Bulakenyos.

The national and local governments have finally started negotiations for the construction of the $2-billion project extending the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) system here, City Mayor Angelito Sarmiento said Tuesday.

Sarmiento said during the consultative meeting held at Pecsonville Subdivision covered court that he expressed full support for the project because this will not only benefit his constituents but all Bulakenyos.

Sarmiento believes that the construction and the operation of the project could provide employment opportunities to the people in this city and will also enhance business in Bulacan.

Present during the meeting were representatives from the Department of Transportation and Communications, private contractors, officials of the barangays to be affected, particularly in Caloocan City, Quezon City, and San Jose Del Monte City. Also present were Councilors Celso Francisco and Giovanni Capricho, and Superintendent Reynaldo Ramirez, city police chief.

edly

November 25th, 2009, 04:54 AM

^^What kind of 'Negotiations' are they into? I'm really excited on the commencement of the project. I'm longing to see some excavations of this project along Commonwealth avenue very soon!

KuyaHeinz

November 25th, 2009, 05:19 AM

Originally Posted by queetz@home View Post
I wonder if they can actually complete the track works and electrical systems by December 31. You have to take into consideration the weather and the upcoming holidays into account. It seems they still have a long way to go and they are putting the tracks, not surprisingly, the "old fashion way", which is hard manual labour unlike the more automated systems they do in Europe (I saw a documentary where they laid new tracks and electrical systems in a matter of hours during the night using some fancy equipment, then the rail line was in service the same morning!)

The old fashioned way is better at providing our countrymen and women with jobs. I know the machine sounds much better, but they need the jobs, we can settle for the machine when we are wealthier.

You absolutely right. For this short way of tracks, the old fashioned way of railwork is certainly better and cheaper, while machines are too expensive then after this short work they just put the machines aside in depot for many years waiting for the next job. Its economical in Europe with more as 100,000 km of tracks which lots of these machines are still working every week on another part of the big network.

edly

November 25th, 2009, 05:45 AM

^^IMO, they can still make it till next year, provided they'll just concentrate on two stations: Roosevelt & Balintawak. Given they work on 24 hours of shifting plus simultaneous work on overhead electrical lines, they'll surely meet the next year's operation.:)

han742

November 25th, 2009, 03:12 PM

hindi pa rin nailalagay ang huling apat na beams na magdudugtong sa MRT-3 at LRT-1, mukhang nahihirapan sa kakasukat ang mga trabahador ah, :)

ruralvillage

November 25th, 2009, 11:24 PM

NDC mulls $300-million club loan for MRT 3 stake acquisition (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=526696&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
By Iris C. Gonzales (The Philippine Star (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=526696&publicationSubCategoryId=66)) Updated November 26, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - State-run National Development Co. (NDC) may opt to tap a syndicated loan from private banks to raise at least $300 million by yearend to pay the Land Bank of the Philippines (Landbank) and the Development Bank of the Philippines (DBP) for a portion of their controlling stake in Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC).

DBP president Reynaldo David said the sale of Landbank’s and DBP’s controlling stake in MRT would soon be finalized.

“We’re almost there,” he said.

The $300 million will serve as initial payment for the preferred shares of Landbank and DBP in the 17-kilometer MRT 3 along EDSA, said DBP executive vice president Theresa Quirino.

She said NDC may just borrow from banks instead of raising money through the issuance of bonds.

“NDC may do it through a syndicated loan,” Quirino said.

Asked about this plan, NDC general manager Ma. Lourdes Rebueno said nothing is final and that the agency is still studying its options.

Landbank and DBP acquired a 75-percent controlling stake in MRT early this year at an estimated shared cost of $800 to $900 million but they are required by the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (BSP) to sell their holdings within the year.

Quirino said that after the initial $300 million payment, NDC would eventually acquire the controlling stake of the two government financial institutions.

The government is spending $130 million per year on equity rental payments, maintenance rental payments, and operating and administrative costs for the elevated railway, compared to annual revenues of $39.56 million.

Both the Department of Finance and the BSP reminded Landbank and DBP that government should not place a large portion of its investible funds in one venture that may not give returns in a short period, may end up at a loss, or compete with the private sector.

Finance officials said another option, if government fails to privatize MRT 3, is to raise the MRT 3 fares.

Based on a government study presented by the DBP, fares should be increased from an average rate of P12.50 to P60.50 to remain profitable.

kaelthas18

November 26th, 2009, 12:00 AM

may nasira na overhead wire kagbi sa lrt1 between vto cruz and pedro gil station.. wlang kuryente ung line kaya stranded ang mga pasahero

kaelthas18

November 26th, 2009, 12:21 AM

^^Thanks for the update han!! :banana:

Mukhang ballast-less track ang gagawin dito ah.. :banana:

katulad ba sya ng some portions ng mrt at lrt2? tunog semento na hindi bato..haha

kaelthas18

November 26th, 2009, 12:22 AM

any news kung tuloy sa january ang commencement ni LRT7??

sabi ng friend ko nakita niya sa gabi raw ngssurvey ng site ung mga engrs dyan sa commonwealth.. bka next year pa start nyan

kaelthas18

November 26th, 2009, 12:25 AM

now, i wonder what is going to be built here on the trinoma side. would it be the central station?

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2527/img4667medium.jpg

baka naman extension ng mall hehe to get closer sa magiging GCT.. haha.
sana idugtong na ng trinoma ung pedestrian bridge sa may SM sa north ave. para di na baba ng street

pau_p1

November 26th, 2009, 03:59 AM

Bahay_Kubo

November 26th, 2009, 08:47 AM

good afternoon! :)

kakabasa ko lang ng status ng isang friend ko sa Facebook na sira daw ang LRT ngayon. aling LRT line yung may sira at bakit nagkaroon ng sira?

Englehart

November 26th, 2009, 09:09 AM

^^ kaninang 7am meron sa line 1....

technical problem daw kakaba ko lang nun sa EDSA station nung sinabi ito sa PA.....

stiggerpao

November 26th, 2009, 06:27 PM

^^ kaninang 7am meron sa line 1....

technical problem daw kakaba ko lang nun sa EDSA station nung sinabi ito sa PA.....

kwento lang ako ng konti.. nang pauwi kami ng kaibigan ko galing cubao (and line 2) last wednesday night, it was announced na central to monumento lang and vice versa ang byahe.. that technical problem started around 7:20 PM, between quirino and vito cruz station (ayon sa guard) and they tried to fix that 'technical' problem which later on will be identified as a cable problem...

then this report came out (from GMANews.tv):

Cable Problem stops LRT 1 Trips; Thousands Left Stranded (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/177850/cable-problem-stops-lrt-1-trips-thousands-left-stranded)

Thousands of rush-hour passengers found themselves stranded Thursday morning after a cable problem brought the Light Rail Transit (LRT)-1 line to a halt.

LRT Administration spokeswoman Maria Kristina Cassion said the problem stemmed from an electric cable near the Vito Cruz station in Manila, adding that operations will only be from Monumento Station up to Central Terminal .

"It took as hanggang buong gabi hanggang kaninang madaling araw, baka buong araw magkukumpuni (It took us all night to fix that problem. We may have to spend the whole day fixing it again)," Cassion said in an interview on dzBB radio.

Cassion did not give a timetable on when LRT trips between Central Terminal and Baclaran can resume.

An earlier report on dzBB radio said the problem at LRT-1 started Wednesday night because of a cable problem at the Vito Cruz station.

LRT security personnel advised passengers of the problem.

Radio dzBB's Tuesday Niu reported that in Caloocan City, passengers at the Monumento and Fifth Avenue stations started going down and taking other forms of public transport like jeeps, buses and taxis. - LG, GMANews.TV

..and getting stranded earlier for about 15 minutes on the train on my way to work before deciding to walk on the rails to get out to Vito Cruz station
(isa ang inyong lingkod sa naapektuhan - pics are part of a video)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8861/vlcsnap950998.png
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8861/vlcsnap950998.png
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railadvocate

November 26th, 2009, 07:00 PM

P60.50!! There would be mass demonstrations if this happens! I think the reason the mrt is not making money is because of corruption. In Beijing, the fare is just 2 yuan or about 14 pesos, and that's good for the entire system already, meaning if you travel 100 kms or 5 kms, its still the same 14 pesos, and yet they can sustain this and are building many many lines still. Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! :bash:

NDC mulls $300-million club loan for MRT 3 stake acquisition (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=526696&publicationSubCategoryId=66)
By Iris C. Gonzales (The Philippine Star (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=526696&publicationSubCategoryId=66)) Updated November 26, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - State-run National Development Co. (NDC) may opt to tap a syndicated loan from private banks to raise at least $300 million by yearend to pay the Land Bank of the Philippines (Landbank) and the Development Bank of the Philippines (DBP) for a portion of their controlling stake in Metro Rail Transit Corp. (MRTC).

DBP president Reynaldo David said the sale of Landbank’s and DBP’s controlling stake in MRT would soon be finalized.

“We’re almost there,” he said.

The $300 million will serve as initial payment for the preferred shares of Landbank and DBP in the 17-kilometer MRT 3 along EDSA, said DBP executive vice president Theresa Quirino.

She said NDC may just borrow from banks instead of raising money through the issuance of bonds.

“NDC may do it through a syndicated loan,” Quirino said.

Asked about this plan, NDC general manager Ma. Lourdes Rebueno said nothing is final and that the agency is still studying its options.

Landbank and DBP acquired a 75-percent controlling stake in MRT early this year at an estimated shared cost of $800 to $900 million but they are required by the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas (BSP) to sell their holdings within the year.

Quirino said that after the initial $300 million payment, NDC would eventually acquire the controlling stake of the two government financial institutions.

The government is spending $130 million per year on equity rental payments, maintenance rental payments, and operating and administrative costs for the elevated railway, compared to annual revenues of $39.56 million.

Both the Department of Finance and the BSP reminded Landbank and DBP that government should not place a large portion of its investible funds in one venture that may not give returns in a short period, may end up at a loss, or compete with the private sector.

Finance officials said another option, if government fails to privatize MRT 3, is to raise the MRT 3 fares.

Based on a government study presented by the DBP, fares should be increased from an average rate of P12.50 to P60.50 to remain profitable.

Mojacko

November 27th, 2009, 04:26 AM

^^ :ohno:

This coming December 1st will mark the 25th Anniversary of the Yellow LRT line's inauguration (December 1st, 1984) - but with an accident like this (crippling HALF its entire operation), is the anniversary still worth celebrating?

Ironically, after its inauguration, operations were initially from Baclaran to Central (and vice versa); the Central to Monumento half became open to public traffic in May of 1985 (although after the structural completion of the line's Pasig River bridge earlier on, test runs on that half were conducted on and off from January till April of that same year).

So, how do we know when operations on the Baclaran-Central half resume?

edly

November 27th, 2009, 04:29 AM

IMO, that's the consequence of choosing the overhead electrical supply for our LRTs. It's better for our MRT/LRT systems to use third rail. Overhead Lines are better for trams rather than urban rail systems like ours.

Bahay_Kubo

November 27th, 2009, 04:37 AM

basically, LRT-1 operates only from Monumento to Central, am i right? :nuts:

these service interruptions are not only affecting a lot of passengers but would entail lost profit for the entity that operates the LRT-1. i hope see the whole mess fixed as soon as possible.

happosai

November 27th, 2009, 05:32 AM

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8861/vlcsnap950998.png

^^I always wanted to walk on these tracks. :lol:

Bahay_Kubo

November 27th, 2009, 05:37 AM

^^ i had the experience of doing that several years ago, not on the LRT-1 but on the MRT. there was a power interruption which caused a disruption on MRT services. the northbound train that i took was forced to stop between Ortigas and Santolan (exact location: People Power Monument/White Plains), forcing me and other passengers to take a very long and tiring walk towards the Santolan MRT Station.

happosai

November 27th, 2009, 05:45 AM

^^Me too. When one of the MRT coaches overheated we were forced to walk the tunnel between Buendia and Ayala station.

Bahay_Kubo

November 27th, 2009, 05:54 AM

^^ walking through the tunnel between Buendia and Ayala is still tolerable when compared to walking through the longer and much darker tunnel between Buendia and Guadalupe. :nuts: :lol:

is it possible for both the LRT systems and the MRT to have some sort of a back-up power supply that is capable of running trains in case power interruptions occur?

happosai

November 27th, 2009, 06:05 AM

^^Alam ko may sarili silang sub-station from napocor.

Bahay_Kubo

November 27th, 2009, 06:13 AM

^^ hindi ba sa Meralco nanggagaling ang power supply ng LRT systems at ng MRT? ang layo kasi ng linya ng NAPOCOR sa mga depot ng LRT-1, LRT-2 at MRT eh. :nuts:

happosai

November 27th, 2009, 06:17 AM

^^Sa MWSS daw.. :nuts:

Englehart

November 27th, 2009, 08:57 AM

buti di ako naabutan niyan kahapon kundi di na ako nakapasok sa skul phew......

kaya pala naghintuan ang mga tren kahapon..........

@sir happs makakalakad ka din diyan basta sakay ka lagi sa rush hour para lagi may technical problem....

happosai

November 27th, 2009, 09:17 AM

^^Tuwing sumasakay ako sa LRT walang problema eh. Ngayon kasi lagi na ako nasakay sa PNR. Kaya di ko na masyado nasasakyan LRT.

cq40

November 27th, 2009, 02:35 PM

Speaking of, is there also a long-term plan for a high rise above that trinoma structure??
Not a high rise but a 2-level Hypermarket. A tenant is yet to be determined. :)

metrosuburban

November 27th, 2009, 03:03 PM

Sky Harbor

November 27th, 2009, 03:25 PM

^^ It also marks 25 years of rapid transit in Southeast Asia. Remember, the LRT is Southeast Asia's first rapid transit system.

stiggerpao

November 27th, 2009, 04:49 PM

So, how do we know when operations on the Baclaran-Central half resume?

This has already been resumed since Thursday evening. Sumakay pa din ako ng LRT-1 pauwi kahit na ganun na yung nangyari sakin nung umagang iyon (maglakad sa LRT-1 tracks).

stiggerpao

November 27th, 2009, 04:58 PM

^^I always wanted to walk on these tracks. :lol:

ako din, first time ko pa naman makalakad sa rail tracks, sa LRT pa.. :lol
wala sa isip ko talaga that it will happen that morning and buti na lang naexempt ako sa pagkalate ko gawa nyan..

lordzagato

November 27th, 2009, 06:11 PM

LRT Extension side railings/barriers already being installed EDSA-Royal-Kaingin area. Looks like they are made of galvanized piping and just going to be painted on. I wish they opted to invest on something more rust resistant or at least some good quality treatment and paint for these pipes or they'll be ugly in no time sigh...

tigidig14

November 27th, 2009, 10:55 PM

^^I always wanted to walk on these tracks. :lol:

me 2, kala ko makukuryente ka sa buhangin nun e :lol:

absinthe_888

November 28th, 2009, 11:55 AM

^^I always wanted to walk on these tracks. :lol:

Siguraduhin mong hindi ka mauubusan ng lakas :lol:

le Reine

November 28th, 2009, 12:04 PM

dancethingy

November 28th, 2009, 12:14 PM

^^ What is the number one factor that drives up costs for MRT3, anyone here know?

le Reine

November 28th, 2009, 12:26 PM

adgaps

November 28th, 2009, 04:10 PM

should MRT3 fare really reach P60.50? parang ang taas na yata nun... i thought around P40 fare is enough to make MRT3 profitable...

barrera_marquez

November 28th, 2009, 04:27 PM

Pero nag start na iyong excavation sa side walks na pag lalagyan ng support columns ng GCT. So mukhang naiwanan na talaga iyong bagong barrio station.

Hindi kasi malaman kung paano nila gagawin yung station... ako sa totoo lang mas gusto ko na single platform na lang para mabilis at walang gaanong problema.

jpdm

November 28th, 2009, 04:32 PM

Englehart

November 28th, 2009, 05:29 PM

anu yung hinuhukay nila sa tabi ng monumento station??? extension ba ng station to accomodate capacity????

queetz@home

November 28th, 2009, 08:17 PM

^^ Most likely. I think Monumento Station is to be renovated anyway, as it has always been part of the plan.

sandwindstars

November 29th, 2009, 03:46 AM

The MRT from the start is really an expensive project. Any railway project in the world is expensive, that's given. The MRT was worth $600++ million more than 10 years ago when it was built. MRT is a BOT project, meaning that it is built and was operated by private entities, and the gov't merely pays them millions of dollars in guarantees, maintenance, subsidies, etc, annually.

That guy who said that it was just Php14 in China has failed to realize that China is a socialist state. Therefore, most public utilities are heavily subsidized by the state.

True. Practically all enterprises don't move unless govt is involved. I lived there and liked taking the subway in Beijing and their suburban lrt. Cheap. In comparison, Oslo's subway was 30 nkr 7 years ago, or something like 5 USD or P250 pesos for one ride! And it was government run.

kaelthas18

November 29th, 2009, 04:07 AM

sa V. MAPA station ng LRT2 generator pa din ang gamit nila sa lighting sa platform at concourse, ang dilim dilim pag gabi.. parang PNR..haha di pa din ata napapalitan ung transformer nila na nabaha eh..

Sky Harbor

November 29th, 2009, 06:15 AM

^^ Well, that part of Magsaysay Boulevard really got flooded, so I would understand. Their TVMs are also not working, so there's a very long line at the PAO during rush hour.

leechtat

November 29th, 2009, 07:47 AM

kasi naman why not start the fare at 15php. i.e north ave station to cubao station ~ 15php; north ave station to taft ~ 30php. this is still affordable, since an ac bus ride will cost more than this, say from pasay to sm north. doing this will solve their cash flow issue. ridership will decrease for a while, yet people will realize that its still practical to take the mrt.

Mithril Cloud

November 29th, 2009, 08:56 AM

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/LRT1_3G_Interior_MC.jpg
LRT-1 3G

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/MRT2_Interior_MC.jpg
MRT-2

railadvocate

November 29th, 2009, 11:00 AM

Kinda funny. Ano namang kinalaman ng corruption sa pamasahe sa MRT?!

Not sure kung nasa country ka dn now, pero corruption is always part of any big projects here in the Philipines. And a large project like the MRT is most certainly marred by large scale corruption. In a nutshell, bigger costs in constructing the mrt = requiring bigger payments to the investors (mga naginvest, nakipagdeal sa BOT) which in turn = higher fares for the consumers.
:cheers:

SeoulKimchiSeoul

November 29th, 2009, 04:01 PM

Ano kaya ang Hitsura ng GCT in Future? anyway i am SeoulkimchiSeoul guyz u can call me Kimchi!!
And Hopefully Ipakita na Sna ang Future LRT Stations!!
Baka i-model sa Bahay kubo design tulad sa mga predecessors sa Baclaran-Monumento, pero this time may Elevators and Escalators.
Sana meron ding Major Overhaul ang Stations mula Baclaran until Monumento at Lagyan ng PWD Facilities and Escalators.

About naman sa Trains ng Yellow Line!
Sana gumawa naman ng 4g trains na may Automatic Transportation System, parang ung sa line 2! at mga Announcements ay nasa Recorded format same din sa Line 2!! at Sana gumawa nito ay Alstom or Mother Company ng 1g trains ay Bombardier! Pwede ring hindi mag mukhang Tram kundi Metro!!

sulong

November 29th, 2009, 04:25 PM

!
Baka i-model sa Bahay kubo design tulad sa mga predecessors sa Baclaran-Monumento,... Metro!!

Oh! 'Yun po ba ang dahilan kung bakit ganun ang itsura nung stations ng yellow line? astig, bahay kubo-inspired pala. Maganda nga kung may ethnic flair ang itsura ng stations, pero (no offense to the iron butterfly) sana mas aesthetically pleasing at green ang mga istasyon. :cheers:

Darth_Duster

November 30th, 2009, 01:16 PM

Commercial Break!
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/StarkillerHermesthe37th/GJT_8232.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/StarkillerHermesthe37th/GJT_8236.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/StarkillerHermesthe37th/GJT_8241.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/StarkillerHermesthe37th/GJT_8245.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/StarkillerHermesthe37th/GJT_8246.jpg
We're going to be seeing this a lot from above pretty soon.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/StarkillerHermesthe37th/GJT_8259.jpg
What's this for?

alcogoodwin

November 30th, 2009, 01:31 PM

Finally booked my trip to the Philippines for next year.
WooooooHooooooooo

Hoping to spend a lot of time on the MRT and LRT1 systems, trying to get as many shots as possible without being arrrested - or into major fights with security guards.

Suppose the next few months will be spent trying to research good locations for clear photos of rail vehicles.
I did hear, may have been here, that LRT has eased their photograph restrictions.
Is this true? They still ignore any email correspondence, despite the guards telling you you have to contact them first.

Brad

Mithril Cloud

November 30th, 2009, 02:29 PM

It's still inconsistent. From our recent experience, we didn't get reprimanded by guards, but there was this LRTA employee that prohibited us from taking shots inside the train.

Sky Harbor

November 30th, 2009, 02:30 PM

^^ Yes, they've relaxed photography restrictions on the LRT. In contrast, it seems to have tightened on the MRT. One time, I was taking a picture of a crowded platform in Cubao using an SLR, and the guard was shouting at me, asking if I was an employee of the MRTC. :ohno:

Ph Man

November 30th, 2009, 03:59 PM

It's still inconsistent. From our recent experience, we didn't get reprimanded by guards, but there was this LRTA employee that prohibited us from taking shots inside the train.

^^ Yes, they've relaxed photography restrictions on the LRT. In contrast, it seems to have tightened on the MRT. One time, I was taking a picture of a crowded platform in Cubao using an SLR, and the guard was shouting at me, asking if I was an employee of the MRTC. :ohno:

:ohno: I can't believe this. What's so wrong with taking photos in a busy platform that the guard has to shout at you? If he's got security in his mind...why on earth should a potential terrorist use a conspicuous cam and risk being caught? I'll use my camphone or a hidden cam instead.

Security measures have not improved. Ask each and every entrance guard in all major malls what exactly are they looking for everytime they inspect your bag. Over 90% will tell you they don't know what exactly.

Put xray scanners in each mall or building entry points. Put rails between the platform and the train (like the ones they have in HK). Then we're not gonna need any more guard roaming around.

Kung minsan sila pa maaangas. :ohno:

kasi naman why not start the fare at 15php. i.e north ave station to cubao station ~ 15php; north ave station to taft ~ 30php. this is still affordable, since an ac bus ride will cost more than this, say from pasay to sm north. doing this will solve their cash flow issue. ridership will decrease for a while, yet people will realize that its still practical to take the mrt.

I totally agree with this. Fare has been very cheap for the longest time. It's about time to increase MRT fare. Then do cost management measures: e.g. replacing tellers with vendo machines.

Sky Harbor

November 30th, 2009, 04:37 PM

^^ The MRT does not have enough TVMs to completely phase out ticket booths. The technology likewise used in Philippine TVMs is primitive compared to our neighbors'.

mwg12a

November 30th, 2009, 07:18 PM

Commercial Break!
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/StarkillerHermesthe37th/GJT_8232.jpg

How come this entrance looks like it caught on fire? Atleast the signage looks clear and clean but it seems that when you're on top of the stairs it looks cleaner again.

railadvocate

November 30th, 2009, 07:42 PM

The MRT from the start is really an expensive project. Any railway project in the world is expensive, that's given. The MRT was worth $600++ million more than 10 years ago when it was built. MRT is a BOT project, meaning that it is built and was operated by private entities, and the gov't merely pays them millions of dollars in guarantees, maintenance, subsidies, etc, annually.

That guy who said that it was just Php14 in China has failed to realize that China is a socialist state. Therefore, most public utilities are heavily subsidized by the state.

True China does subsidize its infrastructures. But this one is actually even cheaper than the example i cited. The Mexico City Metro just costs MXN $2/ US$ 0.15 or P7.05 and yet they have so many lines. I don't think the Mexican gov't subsidizes them and last time I checked, El Mehico is not la comunista. :cheers:

Igsuonnimo

December 1st, 2009, 02:55 AM

November 27,2009
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2611/4142794787_5f2c71f94b_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2593/4142794885_0035ec32eb_b.jpg
butas na bubong, ito na siguro ang isa sa mga makabagong sining :lol:
Ang ganda pa naman sana ng puno ng buko sa bandang kanan. :)

happosai

December 1st, 2009, 03:14 AM

^^Yan ang makabagong exhaust ng LRT line 1. :nuts:

Coffee

December 1st, 2009, 03:43 AM

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there a map of the whole MRT/LRT system that includes the Yellow Line extension and the new Red Line?

Sky Harbor

December 1st, 2009, 03:48 AM

wheel of steel

December 1st, 2009, 04:06 AM

Commercial Break!

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/StarkillerHermesthe37th/GJT_8259.jpg
What's this for?

They are building sidings for the coaches. :):)

cool_blue

December 1st, 2009, 04:50 AM

Any developments on the LRT-1 South Extension?? It seems malabo na this GMA's admnistration. Kung saka-sakali man si Noynoy, baka mauna pang magkaroon ng LRT or MRT paupuntang Tarlac. Then mga mukha ni Kris at Sharon ang nasa ticket with the tagline "Sakay Na, Now Na!" :nuts:

edly

December 1st, 2009, 05:21 AM

^^We'll have a bogus government if the basic concerns of transport sector has been neglected. :ohno:

Darth_Duster

December 1st, 2009, 05:56 AM

:ohno: I can't believe this. What's so wrong with taking photos in a busy platform that the guard has to shout at you? If he's got security in his mind...why on earth should a potential terrorist use a conspicuous cam and risk being caught? I'll use my camphone or a hidden cam instead.

Security measures have not improved. Ask each and every entrance guard in all major malls what exactly are they looking for everytime they inspect your bag. Over 90% will tell you they don't know what exactly.

Put xray scanners in each mall or building entry points. Put rails between the platform and the train (like the ones they have in HK). Then we're not gonna need any more guard roaming around.

Kung minsan sila pa maaangas. :ohno:

I totally agree with this. Fare has been very cheap for the longest time. It's about time to increase MRT fare. Then do cost management measures: e.g. replacing tellers with vendo machines.
The employee who warned us that its not allowed told us its because "nasabugan na kasi ang LRT eh"

They think we're terrorists

Darth_Duster

December 1st, 2009, 06:05 AM

How come this entrance looks like it caught on fire? Atleast the signage looks clear and clean but it seems that when you're on top of the stairs it looks cleaner again.

Deisel Particulate Matter, I heard its tough to clean. The signage is new so, yeah.

Use of biodeisel can prevent this :)

Mithril Cloud

December 1st, 2009, 06:14 AM

The employee who warned us that its not allowed told us its because "nasabugan na kasi ang LRT eh"

They think we're terrorists

Another example of close-minded thinking. :ohno:

SeoulKimchiSeoul

December 1st, 2009, 06:32 AM

kalbongdad

December 1st, 2009, 06:38 AM

ganun talaga if we want our transport system to be safe sumunod na lang.....better safe than sorry....lalo na meron na ngang nangyari sa lrt1

mwg12a

December 1st, 2009, 06:38 AM

Another example of close-minded thinking. :ohno:

I wouldn't call that close minded when there were terrorist bombing happened before, it's for safety, I'd rather have tough and annoying security than be one of the victims of a terror attack.

That is one of the terrorists tactics to survey their targets, take pictures of the facility so they can plan their attack very well. Why are we annoyed or pissed if we are stopped to take pictures in those areas? I understand how it can be annoying to be told not to take pics for souvenirs, but come on??? That is just part of the security measures to preven terror attack. Although I know security personnels should be atleast polite but FIRM when they stop you guys from taking pictures. Why can't we as filipinos understand these? Why do we have to be "pasaway" a rule is a rule, part of the law, there is no excuse not to follow it especially if this procedure is sound and effective? Inside all US bound passengers in NAIA or even all the airports in the US, there are many procedures that sometimes seems to not make any sense, but little things like not allowing toothpaste and shampoo in your carry on has some good reasons, it is used to create bombs so just settle for a real small amount of it in a little ziploc bag and you're good to go, millions never complained about it but why do we complain when we are stopped from taking pictures in LRT stations and inside the train?

Mithril Cloud

December 1st, 2009, 06:41 AM

Darth_Duster

December 1st, 2009, 06:45 AM

Another example of close-minded thinking. :ohno:

Well they think we might be scouts for terrorists.

Also, cameras like the ones we use that are made of magnesium allow make perfect fragmentation bombs if you fill them up with high explosives. I know this because . . . :bash:

But still, if I were a terrorist scout id just look at the place and save what ever details about security and structural weaknesses on a notepad or my cellphone.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h297/StarkillerHermesthe37th/WTD05.gif

kalbongdad

December 1st, 2009, 06:48 AM

Well they think we might be scouts for terrorists.

Also, cameras like the ones we use that are made of magnesium allow make perfect fragmentation bombs if you fill them up with high explosives. I know this because . . . :bash:

But still, if I were a terrorist scout id just look at the place and save what ever details about security and structural weaknesses on a notepad or my cellphone.

you know it because.....you work in the airline industry...:lol: gotcha...

Darth_Duster

December 1st, 2009, 07:05 AM

you know it because.....you work in the airline industry...:lol: gotcha...

I do not

alcogoodwin

December 1st, 2009, 07:28 AM

I wouldn't call that close minded when there were terrorist bombing happened before, it's for safety, I'd rather have tough and annoying security than be one of the victims of a terror attack.

That is one of the terrorists tactics to survey their targets, take pictures of the facility so they can plan their attack very well. Why are we annoyed or pissed if we are stopped to take pictures in those areas? I understand how it can be annoying to be told not to take pics for souvenirs, but come on??? That is just part of the security measures to preven terror attack. Although I know security personnels should be atleast polite but FIRM when they stop you guys from taking pictures. Why can't we as filipinos understand these? Why do we have to be "pasaway" a rule is a rule, part of the law, there is no excuse not to follow it especially if this procedure is sound and effective? Inside all US bound passengers in NAIA or even all the airports in the US, there are many procedures that sometimes seems to not make any sense, but little things like not allowing toothpaste and shampoo in your carry on has some good reasons, it is used to create bombs so just settle for a real small amount of it in a little ziploc bag and you're good to go, millions never complained about it but why do we complain when we are stopped from taking pictures in LRT stations and inside the train?

I don't know, but if I was a terrorist I would be looking for small conceleable camera hidden from view from security guards.
Standing in front of a guard with an SLR with a 100-300 bastard lense on the front is a dead give away and would draw to much attension to my plans..
I am told that some railway operators here actually inform new staff to look for small conceled cameras over the more obvious enthusiast type stuff. Personally I would be more worried about camera phones.

Still, it dosen't stop me. I just ignore their screaming at me. I do the right thing by trying to contact them, if they aren't bothered to answer for a meeting, then thats their problem.

Brad

happosai

December 1st, 2009, 07:34 AM

^^Maybe this is getting out of topic..

we should start a thread called... "If I was a terrorist... " :lol:

alcogoodwin

December 1st, 2009, 07:35 AM

It is. Do you think the security measures here are that effective in the first place? In Singapore they don't even have those annoying security checks and restrictions, yet their MRT system is safer than ours.

I agree with their bag checks etc, this needs to be done for many reasons.
But beyond this, I wish security guards their could utilise a small bit of common sense when making decisions at the time, not just stick to a rule book made for the worst case scenario.

Brad

alcogoodwin

December 1st, 2009, 07:37 AM

^^Maybe this is getting out of topic..

we should start a thread called... "If I was a terrorist... " :lol:

...... I would have a long beard and a turben :lol:

Mojacko

December 1st, 2009, 07:38 AM

Mithril Cloud

December 1st, 2009, 07:41 AM

I agree with their bag checks etc, this needs to be done for many reasons.
But beyond this, I wish security guards their could utilise a small bit of common sense when making decisions at the time, not just stick to a rule book made for the worst case scenario.

Brad

The problem with their bag checks is that more often than not they have no idea of what they're looking for. If they really want security, then they should invest in walk-in metal detectors rather than magical poking sticks. Actually, Monumento station had a walk-in detector, but for some reason it disappeared.

Manila-X

December 1st, 2009, 07:45 AM

Manila-X

December 1st, 2009, 07:48 AM

happosai

December 1st, 2009, 07:48 AM

The problem with their bag checks is that more often than not they have no idea of what they're looking for. If they really want security, then they should invest in walk-in metal detectors rather than magical poking sticks. Actually, Monumento station had a walk-in detector, but for some reason it disappeared.

^^Maybe the terrorist confiscate them... :lol:

alcogoodwin

December 1st, 2009, 07:51 AM

alcogoodwin

December 1st, 2009, 07:53 AM

^^Maybe the terrorist confiscate them... :lol:

Rod, if you don't take up a career in comedy, you would be wasting your talents :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

edly

December 1st, 2009, 08:08 AM

:cheers1: :cheers1: :cheers1:

For 25 years of providing speedy, convenient, and comfortable rapid transit to Manila cityfolk (and those of the rest of Metro Manila too), and for how far Manila's rapid transit system has grown and developed to eventually include two more lines...

HAPPY 25th ANNIVERSARY, LRT YELLOW LINE!!!

From all of us here at SkyscraperCity Philippine Forums.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

MABUHAY ang Kauna-unahang Metro sa buong Timog-Silangang Asya!

Hopefully, our system wouldn't just be the first to be built, but to become the first in terms of service and convenience. :cheers:

alcogoodwin

December 1st, 2009, 09:42 AM

Hopefully, our system wouldn't just be the first to be built, but to become the first in terms of service and convenience. :cheers:

and excessive photographic rules :lol:

kaelthas18

December 1st, 2009, 11:26 AM

^^Maybe this is getting out of topic..

we should start a thread called... "If I was a terrorist... " :lol:

tell the secu guard this: "Silence, I KILL YOU!"

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_U54NM9QE5VY/SOW8FPnN1aI/AAAAAAAAEgU/E7J-aIa7CTw/s400/Achmed.jpg

RonnieR

December 1st, 2009, 01:54 PM

Big-ticket projects lined up for 2010

By Ronnel Domingo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 21:27:00 11/30/2009

Filed Under: Investments, Construction & Property

THE GOVERNMENT WILL PUSH big-ticket infrastructure projects in 2010 following this year’s first wave of fast-moving, labor-intensive projects in line with efforts to stimulate economic growth, an official of the National Economic and Development Authority said.

Dennis Arroyo, director of Neda’s national planning and policy staff, said in an interview that the shift to large projects had in fact started with the ongoing construction of the link between the Light Rail Transit Line 1 that ends in Monumento in Caloocan City with the Metro Rail Transit Line 3 that ends at the corner of North Ave. and Edsa in Quezon City.

Arroyo said there was also the extension of the Skyway elevated toll road all the way to Alabang in Muntinlupa City.

“Big projects in the pipeline for next year include the extension of the LRT line to southern Metro Manila, the construction of LRT lines going to Rizal and Bulacan, and the C6 circumferential road,” he said.

“These projects will serve not much to create jobs but to improve our national competitiveness,” Arroyo added.

Last week, Neda Acting Director General Augusto B. Santos said the government should continue upgrading the country’s competitiveness—such as through lower electricity cost—even as efforts under the Economic Resiliency Plan runs its course in the remainder of the year.

kalbongdad

December 1st, 2009, 01:59 PM

dapat lang.....continue with the big infra.....yung lrt papuntang cavite...ang traffing ng lugar na yun.....it has been years ng pumunta ako dyan hindi na ako umulit....dami pa naman historical sites dyan....yung aguinaldo shrine na lang ang ganda at napakagaling ng historical value kung mabibisita lang ng mga pupilo...dun mo ramdam ang pagka pinoy mo...

Sky Harbor

December 1st, 2009, 02:11 PM

For some good news: V. Mapa now has electricity again.

And for more good news: Tulaan sa Tren, the English-Filipino poetry program sponsored by the LRTA and its partners (the NBDB, the Vibal Foundation and a bunch of other foundations, organizations and people), has finally ventured onto the realm of regional poetry. I saw a poem today written in Hiligaynon, along with a Filipino translation. :D

kaelthas18

December 1st, 2009, 04:31 PM

mr.suroy

December 1st, 2009, 06:17 PM

i went to metro manila to circle the half of the metro using our trains.

MRT 3 Ortigas Station to MRT 3 Taft Station,
transfer to LRT 1 EDSA Station to LRT 1 Doroteo Jose Station,
transfer to LRT 2 Recto Station to LRT 2 Aranata Station,
and last transfer again to MRT 3 Cubao Station to MRT 3 Shaw Station.

This is an attempt to duplicate my joy train ride 5 years ago, but the sequence is the opposite in today's journey. I only spent 51 pesos (12+15+14+10) around the half-hearted loop around the metro.

The worst thing that had happened to me was riding my first train at the Ortigas Station. All the trains that were passing were all full! I've only managed to gain a spot after the fifth train, and it was only around 5pm. It was my first attempt to ride during the "crunch time".

Yes, the MRT 3 do not have proper time intervals between the trains, it could range from ten minutes to two minutes, even during the rush hour. There is a time when three northbound trains had already passed but no sign of a southbound one.

The trip on the LRT 1 is better, with 3G trains. Oh, the train is few inches too high for the platform, but the good thing is the doors are very wide. Still, I have to comment about the beeping sound of the closing doors of the 3G trains, the volume could just crack beyond 100db.

How I love the LRT 2 trains. Wide, spacious, very modern looking. But the steel bars are way too high for the most of the standing passengers. Nice beeping sound during the closing of the doors. It was my third time riding on that line.

It was already 7pm when I have my second MRT 3 ride on the night. The train was not much crowded as my 5:30 trip on the same line earlier.

I hope I am not the one who enjoys riding on a loop just for fun. :lol:

Darth_Duster

December 1st, 2009, 07:15 PM

Coffee

December 1st, 2009, 07:24 PM

^^ The Red Line (MRT-4) has been shelved, and no one knows if MRT-7 will assume the new color. ULC uses orange on its map, which is currently used by PNR Southrail.

I don't think a map with extensions exists yet.

Oh hi Sky Harbor. I got confused, thinking the MRT-7 is the Red Line. Anyway...

Here's a map I made tonight. This is intended for Wikipedia, but I want to know if there are any mistakes or comments or whatever before I upload it:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9336/srts.png

It's the 3 LRT/MRT lines, including the LRT-1 extension. The MRT-7 and LRT-6 can be added in the future once they start to take shape.

SeoulKimchiSeoul

December 2nd, 2009, 12:09 AM

Oh hi Sky Harbor. I got confused, thinking the MRT-7 is the Red Line. Anyway...

Here's a map I made tonight. This is intended for Wikipedia, but I want to know if there are any mistakes or comments or whatever before I upload it:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9336/srts.png

It's the 3 LRT/MRT lines, including the LRT-1 extension. The MRT-7 and LRT-6 can be added in the future once they start to take shape.

Wow Nice 1!!
Pero Idagdag na lang ung Suburban Rails like PNR Filtrack nd ung Future Northrail
Para na tayong nasa Ibang Bansa na maraming Lines!! :):) :dance: Wootwoot!!

flip2_0

December 2nd, 2009, 12:28 AM

Here's a map I made tonight. This is intended for Wikipedia, but I want to know if there are any mistakes or comments or whatever before I upload it

Actually, the yellow dot on North Avenue should have been placed between Roosevelt station and the curve towards North Avenue (future Grand Central Station)

Everything else looks :okay:

SeoulKimchiSeoul

December 2nd, 2009, 12:59 AM

Actually, the yellow dot on North Avenue should have been placed between Roosevelt station and the curve towards North Avenue (future Grand Central Station)

Everything else looks :okay:

Guys Heres The Map I Made:)

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad349/seoulkimchiseoul/ManilaMRT-LRT-PNRLines.gif

Notes:
Black Squares- The GCT for LRT and MRT 3 and 7, Kalookan Terminal where PNR Filtrack and Northrail Meets, and Alabang Terminal where PNR Filtrack meets Southrail

Yellow Line - LRT Line 1
Purple Line - LRT Line 2
Blue Line - MRT 3
Red Line - MRT 7
Green Line - Northrail
Orange Line - PNR Filtrack
Pink Line - Southrail

Sinama ko na rin ung mga future Extensions ng LRT 1 and 2, also The MRT 7

Guys walang Station name ksi Masikip!!:lol:

kalbongdad

December 2nd, 2009, 01:26 AM

edly

December 2nd, 2009, 04:07 AM

Oh hi Sky Harbor. I got confused, thinking the MRT-7 is the Red Line. Anyway...

Here's a map I made tonight. This is intended for Wikipedia, but I want to know if there are any mistakes or comments or whatever before I upload it:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9336/srts.png

It's the 3 LRT/MRT lines, including the LRT-1 extension. The MRT-7 and LRT-6 can be added in the future once they start to take shape.

This is great for Wikipedia. But one suggestion: It's better if the color blue of MRT3 be closer to the actual color of the MRT coaches...

By the way, does anyone here knows how to update the map on Urbanrail.net? I believe R. Schwandl is responsible for that. Seems our lines there did not yet include the Filtrack commuter system. For instance, Bangkok has their SRT lines added on their map. Thanks!

Sky Harbor

December 2nd, 2009, 05:56 AM

^^ Urbanrail.net documents only rapid transit systems. The Orange Line is commuter rail.

daily commuter

December 2nd, 2009, 06:32 AM

Guys Heres The Map I Made:)

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad349/seoulkimchiseoul/ManilaMRT-LRT-PNRLines.gif

Notes:
Black Squares- The GCT for LRT and MRT 3 and 7, Kalookan Terminal where PNR Filtrack and Northrail Meets, and Alabang Terminal where PNR Filtrack meets Southrail

Boss, comment po, can you change the Province of Bulacan sa tabi ng Taguig, Pateros, Pasig , Marikina to Province of Rizal

About Southrail, as per Phil. Railways thread, Calamba ang common station nila. Ano po ba ang tama? Ang gusto ko ay Tutuban pa din ang main station ng SouthRail para hindi hassle sa mga tga Maynila uuwi ng Laguna, Quezon at Bicol.

edly

December 2nd, 2009, 06:59 AM

^^ Urbanrail.net documents only rapid transit systems. The Orange Line is commuter rail.

Just what I've stated earlier, Urbanrail may also include some commuter rails in the map (in our case, the NS-Linkage), provided they're in grey lines in order to avoid confusion with subways and LRT's. Try to look at Bangkok and several European city maps.

RonnieR

December 2nd, 2009, 07:42 AM

Sky Harbor

December 2nd, 2009, 08:26 AM

Boss, comment po, can you change the Province of Bulacan sa tabi ng Taguig, Pateros, Pasig , Marikina to Province of Rizal

About Southrail, as per Phil. Railways thread, Calamba ang common station nila. Ano po ba ang tama? Ang gusto ko ay Tutuban pa din ang main station ng SouthRail para hindi hassle sa mga tga Maynila uuwi ng Laguna, Quezon at Bicol.

The SRTS definition of Southrail is only up to Alabang, if I'm not mistaken.

alcogoodwin

December 2nd, 2009, 09:07 AM

Boss, comment po, can you change the Province of Bulacan sa tabi ng Taguig, Pateros, Pasig , Marikina to Province of Rizal

About Southrail, as per Phil. Railways thread, Calamba ang common station nila. Ano po ba ang tama? Ang gusto ko ay Tutuban pa din ang main station ng SouthRail para hindi hassle sa mga tga Maynila uuwi ng Laguna, Quezon at Bicol.

Isn't Filtrack and Southrail one and the same?
Southrail rollingstock already carries the name.
The Linkage and Southrail projects are different.

Mithril Cloud

December 2nd, 2009, 09:23 AM

PNR didn't clarify what Filtrack really stands for. :ohno:

Englehart

December 2nd, 2009, 09:28 AM

^^ pamalit sa metrotren????

happosai

December 2nd, 2009, 10:59 AM

Isn't Filtrack and Southrail one and the same?
Southrail rollingstock already carries the name.
The Linkage and Southrail projects are different.

^^Does that mean southrail and the linkage project both uses narrow gauge tracks? And that it can interchange trains?

Wait.. we're on the LRT thread... OT!!!! :lol:

kalbongdad

December 2nd, 2009, 02:08 PM

nagawa na ba ang loop na close na ba?

han742

December 2nd, 2009, 05:08 PM

nagawa na ba ang loop na close na ba?

napadaan ako kanina sa EDSA-north ave. hindi pa rin nilalagay, may pagkakaiba siguro sa sukat ng paglalagyan ng beams kaya hindi pa nila mailagay,:ohno:

Sky Harbor

December 2nd, 2009, 05:12 PM

Oh hi Sky Harbor. I got confused, thinking the MRT-7 is the Red Line. Anyway...

Here's a map I made tonight. This is intended for Wikipedia, but I want to know if there are any mistakes or comments or whatever before I upload it:

We need an SRTS map as well, which includes Southrail (up to Caloocan and Alabang or Muntinlupa, not sure where it ends) and Northrail (from Caloocan to Valenzuela), as well as a color key.

By the way Coffee, please modify the PNR map. :D

sandwindstars

December 2nd, 2009, 05:24 PM

sandwindstars

December 2nd, 2009, 05:28 PM

RonnieR

December 2nd, 2009, 05:43 PM

This will be the Balintawak station
http://i530.photobucket.com/albums/dd350/RonnieR_2008/infrastructures.jpg

Ph Man

December 2nd, 2009, 05:46 PM

I've been meaning to do a sightseeing of Manila on the 3 lines. So far I've only done bits and pieces. I recommend this way of seeing Manila to my family who visit Manila. Just avoid the rush hours, and make it on a clear sunny day. The view is excellent from the trains, and the experience is fun.

Yes, I recommend doing this on a Sunday. Not too many commuters. Clear skies. Perfect for a joy ride. Do it at daytime of course.

This is one of the advantages of having trains running along overhead tracks. Compared with let's say MTR, whose lines are mostly underground.

Igsuonnimo

December 2nd, 2009, 05:49 PM

han742

December 2nd, 2009, 05:56 PM

lordzagato

December 2nd, 2009, 06:03 PM

The northbound track/rail of the LRT extension is already laid out as I saw when crossing the overpass this morning.

RonnieR

December 2nd, 2009, 06:04 PM

It was posted by this bisaya speaking guy in Asian Forum. Ang pinoy talaga....
Manila's mass transit looks crap and old-fashioned, just my opinion but I think everybody agrees with it. Please post more from Malaysia, Thailand, and Singapore's mass transit, they look superb and modern.

absinthe_888

December 2nd, 2009, 06:24 PM

^^ Typical Pinoy crab mentality.

Mithril Cloud

December 2nd, 2009, 07:53 PM

Yellow and Purple Lines:

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TUShSkIO7AI

queetz@home

December 3rd, 2009, 04:09 AM

Our MRT/LRT lines are not pretty, but when it comes to transportation, pretty should be the last thing to worry about. As long as it serves the public well and is used as intended, it should be fine.

This coming from somebody living in a "first world" city where the local and provincial government decided to not only push back a much more needed expansion of an existing rail rapid transit to underserved and traffic prone area in favour for an airport line linking a vertical suburb that isn't really necessary to begin with (was done solely for a two week party), but also spend an extra billion just to ensure it is "pretty". And to add insult to injury, this action of making that line "pretty" as oppose to simply be functional, crippled the local transit authority financially, which means NO expansion of the existing rail rapid transit system to the much needed areas now and pretty much forever...

So believe me when I say the *fugly* MRT/LRT system that we have *today*, and the expansion that is currently being done is such a Godsend....you have no idea how really lucky Metro Manila is right now compared to other areas that desperately needs such service.

alcogoodwin

December 3rd, 2009, 04:34 AM

manchowyin

December 3rd, 2009, 04:36 AM

RonnieR

December 3rd, 2009, 04:42 AM

I have to say I sit on both sides of the fence.

While I think a lot of them, especially the original LRT, look absolutely awful - however I would hate to think what Manila would be like without them nowdays.

I do believe that opportunity exists for a far more pleasing system on the new line out along Commonwealth that will cater both to pleasing the population as well as the eye.

Brad

Brad, that's the reason I said in my statement that KL LRT looks like our Blue Line while Bangkok BTS looks like our PUrple Line.

I never mentioned the old line - Yellow (original) since it needs lots of improvements.

Inside the coaches, terminal, payment scheme, not much difference. The landscaping was done also in blue line, thanks to MMDA. In KL LRT and Bangkok BTS, not all stations have escalators and you have to walk in going to KL's Monorail (not integrated). Some of KL stations are far from business center specifically the one in PJ (petaling jaya).

Manila-X

December 3rd, 2009, 04:43 AM

^^ nice

true. I bet that guy has not tried the KL LRT and Bangkok BTS. In Malaysia, it's only in the capital that has LRT and so with Thailand. Other cities in Thailand have no LRT/MRT.

Modesty aside, I've tried SG, BKK and MY mass transits. Except for subways in BKK and SG, our overhead LRT/MRT are comparable to them.:)

That's the same with all major ASEAN cities. Metro systems are only present in its capital which is also the largest city.

My opinion on Metro Manila's metro system is mixed.

For one, the Purple Line is comparable to other metro systems of South East Asia. It uses modern trains, has ticket vending machines plus modern stations. The only thing needed is a bit of infrastructure plus cleanliness in each station.

The Yellow Line has done justice with the 3G trains which is modern and is more a narrow profile metro than a tram. Though they still run 1 and 2G trains hopefully they should phase them out. The stations need lots of upgrading like ticket vending machines, maintenance, etc.

The Blue Line is my least favourite since its a light rail system on a major route. The metro should utilize the 3G trains used on the purple line plus a change on their system.

Honestly, Manila's metro system has its advantages and flaws but we should be glad we have a metro.

RonnieR

December 3rd, 2009, 04:46 AM

I use HK MTR all the time, and have taken Taipei, Bangkok (both LRT and MTR), and Singapore. Manila LRT is quite comparable, especially inside the trains. Yes, it can stand some improvement, like escalators or lifts, but that will come with time; it grows as the economy grows. For anyone who wants to see what crap is, try Rome.

Thanks for this objective assessment from a well traveled person.

I just don't like the post made by that "yawa" - putting down our MRT/LRT in an ASian forum, without concrete basis at all.

Manila-X

December 3rd, 2009, 04:48 AM

And again, The MRT-2 has the coolest design I've seen on an Asian metro other than the MTR Disney Line.

RonnieR

December 3rd, 2009, 04:52 AM

The Yellow Line has done justice with the 3G trains which is modern and is more a narrow profile metro than a tram. Though they still run 1 and 2G trains hopefully they should phase them out. The stations need lots of upgrading like ticket vending machines, maintenance, etc.

The Blue Line is my least favourite since its a light rail system on a major route. The metro should utilize the 3G trains used on the purple line plus a change on their system.

Honestly, Manila's metro system has its advantages and flaws but we should be glad we have a metro.

Can the 3G trains run in blue line tracks? I learned from you about the specifics and differences between LRT/MRT :).

Manila-X

December 3rd, 2009, 04:56 AM

Can the 3G trains run in blue line tracks? I learned from you about the specifics and differences between LRT/MRT :).

I'm sure they can because the 1G train is the same as the MRT.

Sky Harbor

December 3rd, 2009, 04:56 AM

^^ The trains can definitely run on the tracks, but if the Yellow and Blue Lines run using different electrical systems, they won't be able to run on either network.

Manila-X

December 3rd, 2009, 05:07 AM

^^ Are you saying the LRT/MRT is totally aesthetically pleasing including to its surroundings (considering the overhead wires) and one of the most modern looking?

He's not even talking about functionality. He's talking about aesthetics.. which I have to agree with.

I said it before and I'll say it again, what's wrong with the overhead wires?

sushi___

December 3rd, 2009, 05:23 AM

Planning Democracy

December 3rd, 2009, 05:28 AM

Brad, that's the reason I said in my statement that KL LRT looks like our Blue Line while Bangkok BTS looks like our PUrple Line.

I never mentioned the old line - Yellow (original) since it needs lots of improvements.

Inside the coaches, terminal, payment scheme, not much difference. The landscaping was done also in blue line, thanks to MMDA. In KL LRT and Bangkok BTS, not all stations have escalators and you have to walk in going to KL's Monorail (not integrated). Some of KL stations are far from business center specifically the one in PJ (petaling jaya).

The architectural treatment of our lines is easy to remedy, albeit with some needed investment of course, what's important is that the right of way is in place already. If you change the trains, improve the stations, our system would begin to look "modern". However, if you can make them look good right from the start, then all the better of course.

edly

December 3rd, 2009, 05:40 AM

:ohno: I agree with you. If they have nothing to say, just keep their mouths shut and do everything to ensure these projects would not be delayed even further. What a waste of electricity and bandwidth.

mwg12a

December 3rd, 2009, 05:42 AM

Bakit ba ang LRT hindi napaguusapan idirecho papuntang muntinlupa or Alabang atleast? Dahil sa PNR line? May planno bang idugtong sa LRT and PNR lines?

daily commuter

December 3rd, 2009, 05:51 AM

^^ I think yes. Because of PNR. I love PNR!

absinthe_888

December 3rd, 2009, 05:58 AM

Kayang kaya naman pagandahin ang mga MRT/ LRT lines sa Metro. Problema eh sa maintenance. At ang balasubas na mentality ng mga Pinoy.

edly

December 3rd, 2009, 06:00 AM

^^Kahit mapinturahan lang muna ang viaduct ng LRT-1 masayang-masaya na ako sa MRT-LRT systems natin.

The northbound track/rail of the LRT extension is already laid out as I saw when crossing the overpass this morning.

That's great news! I'm even more excited this week to watch the laying of tracks and the closing of the loop with the last four beams. Fantastic!

Manila-X

December 3rd, 2009, 06:01 AM

Bakit ba ang LRT hindi napaguusapan idirecho papuntang muntinlupa or Alabang atleast? Dahil sa PNR line? May planno bang idugtong sa LRT and PNR lines?

The PNR is better off doing that because its a suburban rail system. The LRT-MRT should focus more developing lines along the city core.

Manila-X

December 3rd, 2009, 06:16 AM

Again, it LOOKS modern and superb. I must say it does look clean and modern. Whereas, if you look at LRT Line 1 and MRT-3.. you can see total dilapidation.

However, the Purple line looks great. I'm pretty sure I didn't misinterpret it. He never said anything about how it FEELS, which is what you're arguing. Also, I just got done with a rigorous IB English course and my English comprehension is currently brighter than ever, just saying.

On the LRT Purple line, IMO, nothing. But on the other lines, they're thick and ugly.

train-wise, I would pick an LRT-1 3G over a Putra anytime. But the stations of both LRT-1 and MRT-3 needs alot of work. Needs to be clean and modernized.

diz

December 3rd, 2009, 06:29 AM

The track of LRT-1 needs work as well. The huge barriers are well.. too huge.

Sky Harbor

December 3rd, 2009, 07:47 AM

Bakit ba ang LRT hindi napaguusapan idirecho papuntang muntinlupa or Alabang atleast? Dahil sa PNR line? May planno bang idugtong sa LRT and PNR lines?

Like what DC said, it's because of PNR. The SRTS designated Blumentritt as the interchange for the Yellow and Orange Lines.

At any rate, the only other way I can see a connection between the LRT and PNR is through MRT-8 (connecting with MRT-3 and MRT-2). But not only is that a long way's away, it also hits at the heart of some right-of-way issues pertaining to the old Santa Mesa-Mandaluyong branch line.

edly

December 3rd, 2009, 10:31 AM

The track of LRT-1 needs work as well. The huge barriers are well.. too huge.

Glad to know that the ongoing LRT-NEP did not adopt the heavy parapet walls of the older LRT line... I hope that they will all apply the modern design to the rest of the LRT-1 line. Then repaint the rest of the posts and viaducts. Voila! Everything will be better for our eyes.:cheers:

Manila-X

December 3rd, 2009, 10:33 AM

The entire country of the Philippines is now suffering from blocking out sunlight because when you look up all you see are bunches of wires above you, and they're all haplessly tied into this big hopeless knot of a rats nest on some building.

That might be a bit of an exaggeration. But the Philippines has WAY too many overhead wires ... it's like the curse of black spaghetti. I wish there was a way how we could resort to underground cables :ohno:

Newer developments especially in MM have their lines underground.

Anyway, what are the advantages and disadvantages of using the third rail for Manila's metros?

diz

December 3rd, 2009, 10:52 AM

^^

Advantage: ultimately looks nice.
Disadvantage: costly? but why be cheap on a city you should care about?

It looks modern? What is your basis? the photos? Have you tried riding their trains?

It seems you're not comprehending so I will resort to yelling.

YES. I DO MEAN THE PHOTOS. THE GUY WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW THE SYSTEM LOOKS. THE SYSTEM, NOT THE INTERIOR OF THE TRAINS, NOT HOW IT RUNS. JUST HOW THE THING LOOKS. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS, YES, RAPID KL LOOKS NICE. NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT FUNCTIONALITY. GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL.

I don't give a damn on your English course. It's hilarious that you try to inject your school subject hijo. I will not argue if you would say that Shanghai subway trains are modern....

I did not comment on LRT 1...

That was a clearly expected response from what I would consider your very own crab mentality. Surely, I only said it because you said i misinterpreted, therefore implying that I can't read.

No, you did not comment on LRT 1, but would you deny that LRT 1 is a part of the Manila rapid transit system? That's what's this guy is trying to say, that at a glance, Manila's is ugly and KL's looks decent.

I'm not criticizing LRT/MRT by any means. I'm just trying to tell you what this guy's trying to say to prevent you from labelling him with crab mentality. What has been seen cannot be unseen, deal with it.