Review rail contract, officials ordered

Manila Standard
Feb. 12, 2010

PRESIDENT Arroyo on Thursday asked officials to review a deal to build a 20-kilometer train system running from North Avenue in Quezon City to San Jose del Monte in Bulacan after its builder asked that its cost be increased.

She tasked the National Economic and Development Authority to review the agreement after Universal LRT Corp. asked that the cost of the P1.2-billion MRT-7 be increased by 20 percent or P240 million.

“The contract has already been awarded to the proponent, but they came back to us saying there will have to be some design changes that will increase the project cost by about 20 percent,” Mrs. Arroyo said during the inauguration of the Bulacan Polytechnic University.

“We have ordered Neda to study the proposal and see if the proposed increase will translate into fares that can still be shouldered by commuters,” she said.

Construction of the train system was supposed to have started last month after Universal LRT secured the contract to build it.

MRT-7 will have 14 stations traversing North Avenue, Elliptical Road, Commonwealth Avenue and Quirino Avenue. It will serve about 2 million commuters.

Under the original contract, the government will pay Universal LRT about $108 million a year for the next 20 years. Investors will also get 70 percent of the net passenger revenue—minus operations and maintenance costs—and 80 percent of all advertising and commercial development income. The rest goes to the government. Joyce Pangco Pañares

Review rail contract, officials ordered

Manila Standard
Feb. 12, 2010

PRESIDENT Arroyo on Thursday asked officials to review a deal to build a 20-kilometer train system running from North Avenue in Quezon City to San Jose del Monte in Bulacan after its builder asked that its cost be increased.

She tasked the National Economic and Development Authority to review the agreement after Universal LRT Corp. asked that the cost of the P1.2-billion MRT-7 be increased by 20 percent or P240 million.

“The contract has already been awarded to the proponent, but they came back to us saying there will have to be some design changes that will increase the project cost by about 20 percent,” Mrs. Arroyo said during the inauguration of the Bulacan Polytechnic University.

“We have ordered Neda to study the proposal and see if the proposed increase will translate into fares that can still be shouldered by commuters,” she said.

Construction of the train system was supposed to have started last month after Universal LRT secured the contract to build it.

MRT-7 will have 14 stations traversing North Avenue, Elliptical Road, Commonwealth Avenue and Quirino Avenue. It will serve about 2 million commuters.

Under the original contract, the government will pay Universal LRT about $108 million a year for the next 20 years. Investors will also get 70 percent of the net passenger revenue—minus operations and maintenance costs—and 80 percent of all advertising and commercial development income. The rest goes to the government. Joyce Pangco Pañares

this is a really bad sign. i think government has no money.

this is a really bad sign. i think government has no money.

No, I don't think so. P240 Million increase is not that much. It's standard procedure for the government to review if there is an increase or change in project cost. I'm positive that it is going to be built. :) I'm afraid Noynoy will investigate this one. joke

MRT 7 (North Avenue to San Jose Del Monte)


IMPLEMENTING AGENCY: MRTC

30 December 2009 is the expected completion period for Universal LRT Corporation to seek financial closure from 18 June 2008 (the date of signing of BGTOM MRT 7 concession agreement which is 18 months).
DOTC and ULC is finalizing agreements with DPWH, MWSS, concerned LGUs for the requisite approvals, clearances, permits , etc.
BGTOM Agreement endorsed to NEDA on 30 March 2009 for processing and confirmation by the NEDA Board.
Based on Universal LRT Corporation schedule, topographic and parcellary survey works is on-going and expected to be completed on 30 March 2009. ROW acquisition /negotiation to be conducted from March 2009 to September 2009.

Project Cost: Php 61.750 B

TIMETABLE: Rev: 2009 - April 2013

delayed na.

NEDA to decide on MRT-7 design changes


^^ MRTC to handle MRT7...

MRT7 delayed...

this is a VERY bad sign... :ohno::ohno::ohno:

^^ Weird pano naging MRTC yung implementing Agency samantalang Universal LRT Corporation nakikita ko sa article?

Hawak naman ito ni Sy eh mukang di pakikialaman ng next president ito... durog siya kay Sy. :lol:

these photos came from First Balfour Website...

http://www.firstbalfour.com/backoffice/catalogs/_uploads/f_20100210-021649_LRTpic2.jpg


http://www.firstbalfour.com/backoffice/catalogs/_uploads/f_20100210-021716_LRTpic1.jpg


http://www.firstbalfour.com/backoffice/catalogs/_uploads/f_20100210-021739_LRTpic3.jpg

based on their website the completion date of this project (NEP) is on May 31, 2010,

source
http://www.firstbalfour.com/projects.php?proj_id=82&page=&filter_catcat_catpc_id=&filter_catcat_catpc_id=&sub=

^^ thanks han for this update.. i'm so excited in this project. can't wait to ride around the mrt loop.

also, i noticed that since they are now constructing the stations, hindi na gaanong traffic jam unlike before when they were doing the foundation sa structure... that's a sign na malapit na talaga itong matapos and all. :cheers:

^^Expected na pagnagkaroon na ng Divisoria station ang MRT2 ay siguradong maraming pasahero ang may dalang malalaking bitbitin. Dapat siguro mag laan sila ng isang coach para dito o kaya mag lagay sila ng baggage car..

pampasahero ang mga trains natin di ba? ano kaya kung para maiwasan ang mga malalaki ang mga dala, itaas ng husto ang mga hagdanan tulad sa MRT3 Ortigas, hahahahahahaha :D joke.

What if since the LOOP is almost completed, LRTA & MRTC built dedicated "LOGISTICS STATIONS" in strategic locations along the loop. There should be a rail connection to the sea port, airport & PNR. They can use something like the Cargo Tram that Volkswagen used in Dresden Germany when they built their High end Volks assembly plant right in the middle of the city center.

The "LOGISTICS STATIONS" should be strategically located and the final local distribution will be done by small to medium sized delivery trucks that will only deliver to predetermined delivery radius. This will definitely augment the income base of MRT/LRT in a huge way that we may eventually see a real profitable company.

Just day dreaming, but I believe it is very very doable! :cheers:

Photo of Volkswagen Cargo Tram:
http://www.dubfoto.com/albums/userpics/10003/Cargo_Tram.jpg

Since the MRT 7 is already delayed because of design changes, I would suggest that the contract should be declared null and void, and open MRT 7 to bidders again. If the government does that, I would instantly e-mail MTR Corp. Limited of Hong Kong to consider bidding for this one. They did a good job with Hong Kong, and they are already expanding overseas. Recently, they have been awarded the contract to operate the London Overground, and Melbourne's Metro system.

^^ MRTC to handle MRT7...

MRT7 delayed...

this is a VERY bad sign... :ohno::ohno::ohno:

Mukhang kelangan nila ng kick back sa nakakuha ng project para may pang gastos sa elections! :lol:

hindi naman problema ang north edsa grand central, eh di simulan na nila ang construction sa Bulacan. idugtong nalang pag natapos ang terminal tsk tsk

What if since the LOOP is almost completed, LRTA & MRTC built dedicated "LOGISTICS STATIONS" in strategic locations along the loop. There should be a rail connection to the sea port, airport & PNR. They can use something like the Cargo Tram that Volkswagen used in Dresden Germany when they built their High end Volks assembly plant right in the middle of the city center.

The "LOGISTICS STATIONS" should be strategically located and the final local distribution will be done by small to medium sized delivery trucks that will only deliver to predetermined delivery radius. This will definitely augment the income base of MRT/LRT in a huge way that we may eventually see a real profitable company.

Just day dreaming, but I believe it is very very doable! :cheers:

Photo of Volkswagen Cargo Tram:
http://www.dubfoto.com/albums/userpics/10003/Cargo_Tram.jpg

no can do. How do you bring down the goods? It will be a lot more expensive to construct a terminal for goods or facility for lowering down the goods than just haul it on a truck. Besides, our main problem is to transport people because of our large population.

The PNR/Northrail would be more suitable for this. And you can load heavy items on a train like cement, gravel, steel etc.

no can do. How do you bring down the goods? It will be a lot more expensive to construct a terminal for goods or facility for lowering down the goods than just haul it on a truck. Besides, our main problem is to transport people because of our large population.

The PNR/Northrail would be more suitable for this. And you can load heavy items on a train like cement, gravel, steel etc.

Just like that? No can do right off the bat? How did you come up with that conclusion? Bringing down the goods? That's a pretty easy problem, there could be a plethora of solutions for that. For one, there is cargo lifts (you'd be surprised to know how cheap it is to operate a lift system specially if it is the counter weight system); Second, there is a scissor lift system; Third, ramps so that the trucks could go up the stations themselves; fourth, the stations could also be built off site where there is space and just build a branch line to it so that it is on ground. What I mean here is that it can be done if it's studied & planned properly. I know it may be expensive to build the logistics stations but it will be a onetime investment that will be sure fire profitable considering how dense Metro Manila is and how much the metro relies on logistics to keep commerce running smoothly and timely. Not talking about heavy industry logistics here but commercial goods that needs to be delivered for populace consumption already although heavy cargo may also be possible where it is needed.

No, I don't think so. P240 Million increase is not that much. It's standard procedure for the government to review if there is an increase or change in project cost. I'm positive that it is going to be built. :) I'm afraid Noynoy will investigate this one. joke

^^ Will have to disagree though since this is indeed bad. Its not 1.2 billion pesos or an increase of 240 million pesos. Its dollars! The figures are obviously typos as its mathematically impossible for anyone, no matter how cheap the labour is, to build a 20 km rail line for 1.2 billion pesos.

With the future of LRT SEP and LRT7 in doubt, the best we can hope for is the LRT2 extension to Divisoria...oh God please make it happen!

dagdagan na lang sana ng mga security equipents sa lugar ng Divisoria Station. Saka, yung talagang mga bawal, like kay lalaking dala-dala, etc, i-implement ng husto.

yup yup.. at sana wag magkuang baclaran ang end station kung sa divi ito kasi tignan mo nung nagkasunog sa baclarang station perwisyo inabot ng mga pasahero.. dapat magkaron ng parameter sa end station ng divi like for example mga 100m away from the station yung mga building kasi kung malapit tapos nagkasunog perwisyo aabutin ng lahat e..

Just like that? No can do right off the bat? How did you come up with that conclusion? Bringing down the goods? That's a pretty easy problem, there could be a plethora of solutions for that. For one, there is cargo lifts (you'd be surprised to know how cheap it is to operate a lift system specially if it is the counter weight system); Second, there is a scissor lift system; Third, ramps so that the trucks could go up the stations themselves; fourth, the stations could also be built off site where there is space and just build a branch line to it so that it is on ground. What I mean here is that it can be done if it's studied & planned properly. I know it may be expensive to build the logistics stations but it will be a onetime investment that will be sure fire profitable considering how dense Metro Manila is and how much the metro relies on logistics to keep commerce running smoothly and timely. Not talking about heavy industry logistics here but commercial goods that needs to be delivered for populace consumption already although heavy cargo may also be possible where it is needed.

i have to applaud you for having a plan like that, but your idea is just not much feasible. LRT 1 and MRT 3 lines are designed to "move people", since physically we are just going around the metro. LRT 2 could serve the transport of goods, since the planned extension would traverse from divisoria area to eastern sections of the metropolis. pnr also have a spur line from tutuban to north pier. we could utilize that line for cheap way of transporting goods, direct from ships to warehouses. if we plan to decongest metro, we want the goods to be delivered "far", not going in circles.

With the future of LRT SEP and LRT7 in doubt, the best we can hope for is the LRT2 extension to Divisoria...oh God please make it happen!

I believe that's more viable and important than the Bulacan line. If I am GMA I would really focus on rail extensions before building new ones.

http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/business-columns/11417-transport-department-revives-plan-to-build-mrt-9

THE Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) said it plans to revive the proposal to construct a rail system going to Rizal Park in Manila from Quezon City.

In an interview, Guiling Mamondiong, undersecretary for rail transportation said his agency will pursue the construction of the 11-kilometer Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Line 9.

The railway system would begin at the North-EDSA in Quezon City intersection and would be linked with the other MRT 3, MRT 7 and Light Rail Transit (LRT) North Extension.

The line will traverse West Avenue and Quezon Avenue in Quezon City and would end in Manila via España.

The MRT 9 will then be interconnected to LRT 2 in Recto and LRT 1 Central Terminal in Manila via the Quezon Boulevard route. This line will be extended to Intramuros Rizal Park up to Port Area.

“The proposed line will be constructed with the majority of elevated sections along the line using the U-shape viaduct, at-grade and depressed sections along the West Avenue route to allow access to the proposed depot located at the east side of the existing MRT 3 depot, adjacent to TriNoma Mall,” the department said.

The agency said the MRT 9 stations include Baler, Timog, Roosevelt, Araneta, Welcome Rotonda Central Terminal, Antipolo (España), A.H. Lacson (España), Morayta, Quezon Boulevard (Quiapo), Taft Avenue (City Hall) and Rizal Park (Manila Hotel).

Mamondiong said the department will conduct a study to determine the cost of the project that would be implemented through a Build-Operate-Transfer scheme.

The project was previously dubbed as MRT 4, but this was not pursued by the proponent even after it obtained the “First Pass” as Build-and-Transfer-Build-Own-and-Operate project by the National Economic and Development Authority Board.

Other rail projects that the government plans to construct are the MRT 7, MRT Line 2 extension and the LRT Line 1 South extension project.

Mamondiong had said that the DOTC is pushing for the creation of a trust fund to finance future mass rail projects. Portions of road and sin taxes and an increase in the real property tax would constitute this fund.

Darwin G. Amojelar

The railway system would begin at the North-EDSA in Quezon City intersection and would be linked with the other MRT 3, MRT 7 and Light Rail Transit (LRT) North Extension.

The line will traverse West Avenue and Quezon Avenue in Quezon City and would end in Manila via España.

The MRT 9 will then be interconnected to LRT 2 in Recto and LRT 1 Central Terminal in Manila via the Quezon Boulevard route. This line will be extended to Intramuros Rizal Park up to Port Area.


^^Mukhang madugo yan lalo na sa pagpasok sa Quezon Blvd-Luneta route dahil marami nang built-up area dyan. Kung naka-viaduct baka masira ang view ng Manila. Kung underground naman, magastos at bahain ang lugar.

IMO, original MRT 4 route is still better.:okay:

To DOTC: Please focus on planned extensions rather than conceptualizing new lines. This is simple daydreaming.

I believe that's more viable and important than the Bulacan line. If I am GMA I would really focus on rail extensions before building new ones.

i disagree, we need to prioritize daily working commuters living in residential areas (fairview, commonwealth, bulacan) and not some people na pupunta lang ng divisoria para mamimili ng paninda o magtatrabaho as tagabantay ng mga eskaparate.

^^ lalagyan kaya nila yan ulet ng ballast? ung parang sa LRT 1?hehe

sana lahat na lang ng train stations ng LRT ayusin, mejo madilim na ung ambiance..:nuts:

^^Kung titignan mo yung ties nya parang sa LRT1 nga rin. Baka nga lalagyan din yan ng ballast. Si 5009 ang magdadala ng ballast dyan. At ikaw ang taga pindot ng busina.. :lol:

i disagree, we need to prioritize daily working commuters living in residential areas (fairview, commonwealth, bulacan) and not some people na pupunta lang ng divisoria para mamimili ng paninda o magtatrabaho as tagabantay ng mga eskaparate.

Those people in fairview, commonwealth, bulacan, etc, can always make pahatid or use an existing bus or jeepney service to get to the already existing MRT/LRT lines. But if those very same people from fairview, commonwealth, bulacan, etc want to go to Divisoria, and judging by the traffic of that area and demand for very cheap goods, a ton of them do, how do you think they would get there? Either by their own car, or by taking the LRT1 or 2, then get off Recto and transfer to another jeep or trike.

But here is the thing...try going to Divisoria by any means, public transpo or private car and the traffic is simply horrendous! The roads are small, the place is packed, and the jeepneys simply clog the roads and WON'T MOVE until they are full, and there are dozens upon dozens of them waiting to be full!

Solution? Extend the LRT2 to Divisoria before anything else and believe me, it will not only unclog the traffic caused by those selfish immobile jeepneys, not only will it siginifcantly move hundreds of thousands of people to get to their place of business, but it would revitalize old Manila with the likes never seen! That is how profound that extension to one single station can make!

^^Mukhang madugo yan lalo na sa pagpasok sa Quezon Blvd-Luneta route dahil marami nang built-up area dyan. Kung naka-viaduct baka masira ang view ng Manila. Kung underground naman, magastos at bahain ang lugar.

IMO, original MRT 4 route is still better.:okay:

To DOTC: Please focus on planned extensions rather than conceptualizing new lines. This is simple daydreaming.

yes i agree! Please never ever put an LRT line directly inside Rizal park. It will destroy the view. There's UN Ave and Central Station LRt station already. That is stupid to put an LRT on that area.

What needs to be put is a monorail system. That goes from central terminal LRT, passing intramuros, luneta, manila bay. mall of asia, pagcor city, alphaland bay .

i disagree, we need to prioritize daily working commuters living in residential areas (fairview, commonwealth, bulacan) and not some people na pupunta lang ng divisoria para mamimili ng paninda o magtatrabaho as tagabantay ng mga eskaparate.

Those people in fairview, commonwealth, bulacan, etc, can always make pahatid or use an existing bus or jeepney service to get to the already existing MRT/LRT lines. But if those very same people from fairview, commonwealth, bulacan, etc want to go to Divisoria, and judging by the traffic of that area and demand for very cheap goods, a ton of them do, how do you think they would get there?

This is exactly what I mean. I do not intend to dismiss that MRT7 is not important but when you compare it with extension especially of MRT2, this will create a huge impact with the transportation in this part of the city. Besides, Bulacan & Fairview residents have other great options of transpo like buses or jeepneys but when you got stuck in Divisoria, you'll swear not to go into this area again.

By the way, i can't figure out why our planners (if the gossips are true) bowed down to selfish jeepney drivers in Divisoria area after preventing the MRT2 to be extended there. Imagine what kind of relief will it give once completed.:bash:

Those people in fairview, commonwealth, bulacan, etc, can always make pahatid or use an existing bus or jeepney service to get to the already existing MRT/LRT lines. But if those very same people from fairview, commonwealth, bulacan, etc want to go to Divisoria, and judging by the traffic of that area and demand for very cheap goods, a ton of them do, how do you think they would get there? Either by their own car, or by taking the LRT1 or 2, then get off Recto and transfer to another jeep or trike.

But here is the thing...try going to Divisoria by any means, public transpo or private car and the traffic is simply horrendous! The roads are small, the place is packed, and the jeepneys simply clog the roads and WON'T MOVE until they are full, and there are dozens upon dozens of them waiting to be full!

Solution? Extend the LRT2 to Divisoria before anything else and believe me, it will not only unclog the traffic caused by those selfish immobile jeepneys, not only will it siginifcantly move hundreds of thousands of people to get to their place of business, but it would revitalize old Manila with the likes never seen! That is how profound that extension to one single station can make!

there will always be traffic in Divisoria, PALENGKE yan eh.

But look at the volume of BUSES and JEEPNEYs in Commonwealth, nakita mo na rin ba ang traffic dun? Alam mo ba kung ilang milyong tax paying commuters take that route daily to actually earn a living and not simply to buy abubot and knock offs in divii? who will benefit in the divisoria extension? Those chinese illegal aliens and businesses who havent issued a single BIR receipt and who dont even know how to speak filipino. This project should be shelved.


let me complete my sentence...until MRT 7 is constructed, park that extension plan.

o nga pala, bat pala nde na-extend yan sa divisoria, parang common sense nga naman i-extend ang mrt or is it lrt, sa divisoria, katulad ng baklaran. ano pala reason bat nde na-extend duon

there will always be traffic in Divisoria, PALENGKE yan eh...But look at the volume of BUSES and JEEPNEYs in Commonwealth, nakita mo na rin ba ang traffic dun? ...This project should be shelved.

Divisoria is not an ordinary market as you thought... It is a transport hub. It is proximate to the PNR Tutuban station. Extension is badly needed there. Without it, MRT 2 will remain the most underutilized line in the Metro.

^ yes correct. Its the main terminal of the PNR. If we can connect all our train and sea ports. We will have a seamless mass transport system.

Besides, Divisoria is not just your typical market. It's a big market. We can develop it into a tourist shopping attraction like Hongkong.

NEDA to decide on MRT-7 design changes
02/11/2010 | 07:11 PM

SAN JOSE DEL MONTE, Bulacan — President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has ordered the National Economy and Development Authority to determine whether the Metro Rail Transit 7 (MRT-7) project should proceed following proposals to amend the design and increase the project cost.

The President, during the inauguration of the main building of the Bulacan Polytechnic College inside the San Jose Del Monte campus on Thursday, said the MRT-7 project had already been awarded and should have started construction, but there were changes to the design that the government has yet to approve.

"The project has been awarded but the plan came back to the government because the proponent wanted to change the design, which could increase the cost by 20 percent," Mrs. Arroyo told teachers, students and their parents in Filipino.

"I will ask the NEDA to decide fast… so we can find ways to make sure it will go ahead. In case the project cost increase, we want to make sure students can afford the fares," she added.

Arroyo told reporters in San Fernando, Pampanga that under the rules, a 10-percent increase in project cost must be reviewed and approved by the NEDA.

She said under the new MRT-7 proposal, the project cost would go up by at least a fifth. The MRT-7 costs about $1.235 billion.

The proposed project will cover the 20 kilometers from San Jose del Monte in Bulacan to North Avenue in Quezon City. It was supposed to start construction last January and end by 2013.

The MRT-7 will have 14 stations that include North Avenue, Quezon Memorial, University Avenue, Tandang Sora, Don Antonio, Batasan, Manggahan, Doña Carmen, Regalado Avenue, Mindanao Avenue, Quirino, and Sacred Heart in Quezon City; Tala in Caloocan City; and Araneta in San Jose del Monte. — GMANews.TV

Mali naman talaga ang design nito kaya IREVISE!!!!!

New Stations:
Tungko("Araneta" or "Colinas")
Tala
Lagro("Sacred Heart")
Qurino("Redwoods" or "SM Fairview" basta tatapat sa SM Fairview or near sa Redwood Codos ng DMCI)
Bristol(Near Fatima)
Regalado(FCM)
Doña Carmen(Puregold Fairview)
Manggahan(Commonwealth Market)
Batasan(Sandiganbayan)
Don Antonio(Ever)
Tandang Sora("Central")
UP(Near Technohub???)
Circle(Sa City Hall Tatapat I wish)
Agham(For Pisay,Ombudsman at Veterans)
SM-Trinoma

Anyway,bakit di na lang padaanin sa reserve tracks near trinoma (dun sa likod)yung MRT7???

100% correct. MRT-4's future is still uncertain though. Even it's envisioned path is loosely placed.

Just a recap:
LRT-1: Baclaran-Monumento...North Ave, QC
L/MRT-2: Recto-Santolan...Masinag, Antipolo
MRT-3: North Ave-Taft Ave, Pasay
MRT-4: ???
MRT-5: Northrail-Metro Manila (segment).
LRT-6: Baclaran/Redemptorist-Niog, Cavite
MRT-7: North Ave-Araneta, Bulacan
MRT-8: Recto to Angono, Rizal
MRT-9: Old Bilibid-Sandigan Bayan, QC

-I hope MRT-4 is the underground metro manila loop or simply traverse C-5

An idea.
Merto Manila LRT-Metro-Monorail-PNR-BRT System
Yellow 1*SM Trinoma to Baclaran
Purple 2*North Harbor to Masinag
Blue 3*SM Trinoma to Mall of Asia

Red 4* España to Quezon Ave(or North Ave kung gusto nila)
Orange 5*Monumento to Alabang
Green 6*Baclaran to Dasmariñas
7* Marilao to Sm Trinoma
8* Sta.Mesa to Angono
9 BRT* UP to Airport(NAIA)via C5
10* Quirino to Blumentritt(Via Quirino Highway ohh...ang saya saya!)

:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:MRt 7 gogogogogogogo!!!!

Anyway,bakit di na lang padaanin sa reserve tracks near trinoma (dun sa likod)yung MRT7???[/B]


The purpose is for the depot under Trinoma mall. But clinching from your idea, it can have a branch then extend the MRT northward through Mindanao avenue up to Quirino Highway. For me, it will be a great help to residents in those congested areas.:okay:


An idea.
Merto Manila LRT-Metro-Monorail-PNR-BRT System
Yellow 1*SM Trinoma to Baclaran
Purple 2*North Harbor to Masinag
Blue 3*SM Trinoma to Mall of Asia

Red 4* España to Quezon Ave(or North Ave kung gusto nila)
Orange 5*Monumento to Alabang
Green 6*Baclaran to Dasmariñas
7* Marilao to Sm Trinoma
8* Sta.Mesa to Angono
9 BRT* UP to Airport(NAIA)via C5
10* Quirino to Blumentritt(Via Quirino Highway ohh...ang saya saya!)

A nice idea. (slightly OT) BRT can complement well with existing MRT-LRT system then extend the lines to vital transport points. Let me add, a monorail can also be god in connecting Makati CBD with the Fort and Ortigas then finally with MRT3.

dagdagan na lang sana ng mga security equipents sa lugar ng Divisoria Station. Saka, yung talagang mga bawal, like kay lalaking dala-dala, etc, i-implement ng husto.

Yup. I agree on that. Delikado at Magulo sa Divisoria talaga.

^^^^

sinabi lang "feasibility study completed." di naman nabanggit kung ano ang resulta; kung viable ba o hindi ang malvar station.

Aprub na yata siya sa LRTA last year pa lang e... talagang hindi lang masimulan together with the Common station kasi sabi ng mga engineers considered "revised plans" daw sila kaya nade-delay ang construction. Maybe patatapusin lamang muna yung 2 stations?

I am really hoping for MRT-7 and MRT-9 to just be one line instead of two lines. It would really save a lot of time and effort.

I hope this planned MRT-9 won't look disastrous to its surroundings. But then, there are less chances of that happening.

OT: Sky, check your PM.

Extension to Div's Place (haha para sosyal) and MRT7 mahalaga yan. Both dapat gawin yan. Pero mas maganda unahin nga sa Div's Place. Then isunod agad ang MRT7. Mabilis naman ang extension construction tulad na lang sa LRT NEP.

I am really hoping for MRT-7 and MRT-9 to just be one line instead of two lines. It would really save a lot of time and effort.

It would make sense, seeing that Line 9 is supposed to end at West-North-EDSA intersection, and Line 7, in that same area as well.

let me complete my sentence...until MRT 7 is constructed, park that extension plan.

I'm not going to reiterate what I said or what the other supporters for the LRT2 extension to Divisoria have stated, but a word of advice.

That kind of attitude is just plain ugly and it really irks me when people want to shelf one absolutely necessary extension for another for whatever reason. I was greatly affected first hand when priority rail extensions were cancelled, most likely permanently and with absolutely no relief in sight, because the "powers to be" has that exact attitude that you have regarding the critical LRT2 extension to Divisoria. I can only hope your not one of those "powers to be" with regards to the rail rapid transit projects in Metro Manila or any city for that matter... :ohno:

divisoria LRT is easy to implement. It is just one station away. The LRT 2 is already extended all the way up to the front of Arranque Pet Shop Market. The trains are even passing on front of arranque market already.

All it needs it to extend it by around than 800 meters. That's 1 station away. It is no big deal to extend LRT 2. It won't take more than 3 months work.

So they should get over with this and extend it. Then work on MRT to San Jose bulacan, and the MRt to Port Area Manila.

I'm not going to reiterate what I said or what the other supporters for the LRT2 extension to Divisoria have stated, but a word of advice.

That kind of attitude is just plain ugly and it really irks me when people want to shelf one absolutely necessary extension for another for whatever reason. I was greatly affected first hand when priority rail extensions were cancelled, most likely permanently and with absolutely no relief in sight, because the "powers to be" has that exact attitude that you have regarding the critical LRT2 extension to Divisoria. I can only hope your not one of those "powers to be" with regards to the rail rapid transit projects in Metro Manila or any city for that matter... :ohno:

what do you mean power to be? di ko gets. ang gusto ko lang naman gawin ay unahin ang mrt 7 kasi we want the "workers" of the formal sector to benefit from better transport systems. and not the tinderas o nagbabantay ng eskaparate. most of recently developed residential areas are up north and we need them to commute with ease and increase their productivity and overall business/work-place efficiency, and in the end, slap them again with higher taxes for increased GDP. mahirap ba intindihin? remember MRTs arent constructed just to ease the traffic but it has to also serve an economic purpose. and since the national government barely has income generating industries (most of them have been partially privatized), the bigger contributions in terms of revenues from tax collections would come from your labor force, specifically the formal sector. and going back, a lot of workers reside up north, with housing boom in commonwealth, lagro and bulacan area. we don't want to cut them off from their workplaces by having them rely merely on wasteful jeepneys and buses. we want them to be mobile until the time that development is better distributed, more diffused, and less decentralized.

divisoria as tourist spot? ano to? the pornography of poverty? so that we can titillate and excite the tourist with the third world market of knock offs, smuggled goods from china? they'd rather go to China and see the great wall while they're at it.

divisoria as tourist spot? ano to? the pornography of poverty? so that we can titillate and excite the tourist with the third world market of knock offs, smuggled goods from china? they'd rather go to China and see the great wall while they're at it.

The divisoria extension is just 800 meters and 1 station away. Its very easy to implement.

Divisoria is already listed on most travel guides in the Philippines. It is already known. Why hide poverty and be ashamed of it? The tourists knows they are not travelling to a first world country. Mind you, I have seen caucasians shopping in Divisoria.

Anywhere you go, there's poverty and homelessness.

The divisoria extension is just 800 meters and 1 station away. Its very easy to implement.

Divisoria is already listed on most travel guides in the Philippines. It is already known. Why hide poverty and be ashamed of it? The tourists knows they are not travelling to a first world country. Mind you, I have seen caucasians shopping in Divisoria.

Anywhere you go, there's poverty and homelessness.

i never said that we need to hide poverty. but to revel on it? if its something that we can celebrate, then why struggle to climb the social ladder?

it was never a choice between the two (MRT7 or Divisoria ext.) And i was not the one who first insinuated the importance of one over the other (or at least its the impression that I got). since theyre at it, i just need to stress that the extension to DIVI is never gonna be more important than MRT7 in terms of advantages---not for ease of traffic nor such externalities as tourism.


maglagay na rin tayo ng MRT papuntang baseco compound kasi sa India and Brazil, they already have the slum tour for tourists who want to be titillated by the relentless poverty in the favela/slum compounds.

maglagay na rin tayo ng MRT papuntang baseco compound kasi sa India and Brazil, they already have the slum tour for tourists who want to be titillated by the relentless poverty in the favela/slum compounds.

live on and don't worry too much about slums. As I said, anywhere you go there are poor and homeless people. Even in first world countries.

live on and don't worry too much about slums. As I said, anywhere you go there are poor and homeless people. Even in first world countries.

uhhhmmm...i think that's not my issue dearie. not being condescending here. but truly, it's not.

One other project that needs to be extended is the path to the NAIA airport.

Extension to Div's Place (haha para sosyal) and MRT7 mahalaga yan. Both dapat gawin yan. Pero mas maganda unahin nga sa Div's Place. Then isunod agad ang MRT7. Mabilis naman ang extension construction tulad na lang sa LRT NEP.

It is better kung ipagsabay na. Para di na sayang sa oras... Both LRT2 and MRT7 are important to us... :)

Mali naman talaga ang design nito kaya IREVISE!!!!!

New Stations:
Tungko("Araneta" or "Colinas")
Tala
Lagro("Sacred Heart")
Qurino("Redwoods" or "SM Fairview" basta tatapat sa SM Fairview or near sa Redwood Codos ng DMCI)
Bristol(Near Fatima)
Regalado(FCM)
Doña Carmen(Puregold Fairview)
Manggahan(Commonwealth Market)
Batasan(Sandiganbayan)
Don Antonio(Ever)
Tandang Sora("Central")
UP(Near Technohub???)
Circle(Sa City Hall Tatapat I wish)
Agham(For Pisay,Ombudsman at Veterans)
SM-Trinoma

Anyway,bakit di na lang padaanin sa reserve tracks near trinoma (dun sa likod)yung MRT7???



An idea.
Merto Manila LRT-Metro-Monorail-PNR-BRT System
Yellow 1*SM Trinoma to Baclaran
Purple 2*North Harbor to Masinag
Blue 3*SM Trinoma to Mall of Asia

Red 4* España to Quezon Ave(or North Ave kung gusto nila)
Orange 5*Monumento to Alabang
Green 6*Baclaran to Dasmariñas
7* Marilao to Sm Trinoma
8* Sta.Mesa to Angono
9 BRT* UP to Airport(NAIA)via C5
10* Quirino to Blumentritt(Via Quirino Highway ohh...ang saya saya!)

:bash::bash::bash::bash::bash:MRt 7 gogogogogogogo!!!!

malabo ang mall of asia..dahil wala ng dadaanan ang riles kasi nasa ground level na ang taft station... hindi pwedeng mag-underground sa taft kasi hindi naman adobe ang mga bato dun..

malabo ang mall of asia..dahil wala ng dadaanan ang riles kasi nasa ground level na ang taft station... hindi pwedeng mag-underground sa taft kasi hindi naman adobe ang mga bato dun..

wow ngayon ko lang nalaman na prerequisite ang uri ng bato sa pagkakaroon ng subway. I thought it can be handled by engineering design and planning but I guess there is limitation on what we can build and where to build it.

malabo ang mall of asia..dahil wala ng dadaanan ang riles kasi nasa ground level na ang taft station... hindi pwedeng mag-underground sa taft kasi hindi naman adobe ang mga bato dun..

sino ba kaisng me kagagawan kaya puro at-grade ang mrt-3???

anyway,mrt-7 isa great project pero i'm not in favor na simulan 'to unless irevise nila yung design.some of the station are in dubious places(like quirino and mindanao)na wala naman talagang sasakay dahil ang mga places na ito are abandoned lots from sta.lucia.:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

at isa pa,medyo roller coaster ata yung terrain ng dadaanan ng mrt-7 from fairview to manggahan.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

dapat ang mrt-7 dadaan lang from regalado to north edsa then idugtong na lang sa mrt-4(to UST) then isa pang line for quirino highway from blumentritt to tungko.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

or maybe sakupin ng mrt-7 ang buong commonwealth to its extension sa zabarte road.

Monumento area...

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8397/00220100213.jpg


http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2701/00320100213.jpg


http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3470/00420100213.jpg


Bagong Barrio...

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1064/00520100213.jpg


towards Balintawak area...

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1105/01420100213.jpg


http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6625/01520100213.jpg


towards Muñoz area...

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3847/00720100213.jpg


http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4080/01220100213.jpg


http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3567/00620100213.jpg


http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4163/00920100213.jpg


http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/1339/01120100213.jpg


Roosevelt Station

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7736/02720100213.jpg


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http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8084/01720100213.jpg


http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9168/01620100213.jpg


towards Kaingin & Balintawak area...

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2432/02320100213.jpg


http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8228/02520100213.jpg


http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7114/02620100213.jpg


on the other side...

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6241/02920100213.jpg


http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/3117/03020100213.jpg


http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/493/03120100213.jpg


:banana::cheers:

^^

salamat sa update po sir hanz

tanong ko lang po yung electrical system ng NEP parang katulad ata sa MRT-3... ata

^^

salamat sa update po sir hanz

tanong ko lang po yung electrical system ng NEP parang katulad ata sa MRT-3... ata

mukhang hybrid nga ito, pinagsamang mga disenyo ng LRT-1, MRT-2 at MRT-3, ang istasyon, bakod, mga poste at wiring pati ang viaduct,:)

pag natapos ito, sana e bawasan na din ng LTO ang mga buses na nasa edsa. I retain lang yung mga brand new aircon buses. Wag na padaaanin at hulihin na yung mga luma, at reconditioned buses.

Thanks again han742. This thread is so alive mainly because of your update. :)

It's a roller coaster ride.
Monumento area...

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4080/01220100213.jpg


towards Kaingin & Balintawak area...

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2432/02320100213.jpg


:banana::cheers:

pag natapos ito, sana e bawasan na din ng LTO ang mga buses na nasa edsa. I retain lang yung mga brand new aircon buses. Wag na padaaanin at hulihin na yung mga luma, at reconditioned buses.


haha lahat ng buses ni claire de la fuenta ( phil. corinthian) tanggal..haha

malabo ang mall of asia..dahil wala ng dadaanan ang riles kasi nasa ground level na ang taft station... hindi pwedeng mag-underground sa taft kasi hindi naman adobe ang mga bato dun..

unless gumawa sila ng overhead station na mataas para maka tawid sa lrt1 tulad ng (recto crossing ng lrt 1 at lrt2) which is mahal...

Ang bilis magawa ng NEP, kumpleto siguro sa budget at walang sagabal (epal) sa proyektong ito... sana ganito lahat ng proyekto.

Natuloy kaya ang mga kasamahan natin dito na pumasyal sa LRT/MRT depots? Sana lang para may update naman...

:)

Thanks again for the photos, Han! Amazing as usual. :okay:

Sadly though, I seriously doubt the two stations will be operational by the end of this month. I dunno how they can possibly finish it, especially Roosevelt. I guess its not really super duper rushed, now is it?

Confirmed na itatayo na SM Masinag got the news form my cousin in Engineering's Office..just beside the Grandpolo Hotel.. at magcocomence n daw ang construction ng Line 2 ng LRT this year

Galing sa other thread. sharing

Balintawak Station

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http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/P2143454_1.jpg

Munoz

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/P2143463_1.jpg

SM North/Trinoma

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab335/kin_toy/P2143474_1.jpg

nice photos

i think the entry of SY complicates the issue of MRT since they have to pass through his MALLs line in the case of Line 7 - SM north to SM Fairview to his vast property in TALA. i think it would have been sufficient to end it in Fairview, but there are other controlling interests in this case.

^^^^

i guess it's ok since sm is not the only entity that will benefit from such kind of deals. it will be mutually beneficial --- both for sm & the public. besides, sm is putting in good money and thus have the right to get something in return unlike other politicians who are using public funds for beefing up their own coffers. :ohno:

Ang bilis magawa ng NEP, kumpleto siguro sa budget at walang sagabal (epal) sa proyektong ito... sana ganito lahat ng proyekto.

Natuloy kaya ang mga kasamahan natin dito na pumasyal sa LRT/MRT depots? Sana lang para may update naman...

:)

oo nga.... I agree. :) :lol:

pag natapos ito, sana e bawasan na din ng LTO ang mga buses na nasa edsa. I retain lang yung mga brand new aircon buses. Wag na padaaanin at hulihin na yung mga luma, at reconditioned buses.

Oo nga... Hindi lang buses.... Pati na rin ang mga jeep... Maingay sa tenga, Mausok pa (Smoke Velching pa....) grrr.....

OT: Bakit hindi nalang gawin ang mga buses katulad nito? (I mean, mga buses dito at mga buses sa ibang bansa (e.g. China) sa loob magkaiba?)

http://www.qd84.com/bbs/attachment/thumb/5_37_ae5588cce4afd72.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/2786483704_ec7fbbd38c.jpg

ganyan ang loob?
http://www.a.com.cn/Enterprise/Upfiles/200609/710148311.jpg

BTW, nice pics Mr Han!!

Sorry sa OT... just curious... :)

Oo nga... Hindi lang buses.... Pati na rin ang mga jeep... Maingay sa tenga, Mausok pa (Smoke Velching pa....) grrr.....

OT: Bakit hindi nalang gawin ang mga buses katulad nito? (I mean, mga buses dito at mga buses sa ibang bansa (e.g. China) sa loob magkaiba?)


http://www.a.com.cn/Enterprise/Upfiles/200609/710148311.jpg




totoo, kahit yung sa Kuala Lumpur ganito ang buses nila. napaka neat lang tingnan.

Oo nga... Hindi lang buses.... Pati na rin ang mga jeep... Maingay sa tenga, Mausok pa (Smoke Velching pa....) grrr.....

OT: Bakit hindi nalang gawin ang mga buses katulad nito? (I mean, mga buses dito at mga buses sa ibang bansa (e.g. China) sa loob magkaiba?)

ganyan ang loob?
http://www.a.com.cn/Enterprise/Upfiles/200609/710148311.jpg



Privately owned kasi mga buses sa atin kaya for owners hindi profitable pag low seating capacities.

^ kaya nga dapat maglagay din ng BRT sa metro manila. Especiallly for those places where and LRT is not feasible. Dapat ahead ang planning nito. Actually BRT is just a bus, that is operated by the government. BRT must be placed on those places na medyo liblib at hindi aabutin ng LRT.

update ko lang sa LRT NEP. May electricals na sa may bandang MCU.

sino ba kaisng me kagagawan kaya puro at-grade ang mrt-3???
Eli Levin is the one to blame for the design of MRT 3. And he plans to do it with MRT 7 as well!:bash:

^^:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno: Malay mo nag level up na sya.. :lol::lol::lol:

pag natapos ito, sana e bawasan na din ng LTO ang mga buses na nasa edsa. I retain lang yung mga brand new aircon buses. Wag na padaaanin at hulihin na yung mga luma, at reconditioned buses.

^^Kung di man bawasan. Dapat doblehin ang registration fee at insurance ng mga ito para mapilitan ang mga bus operators na alisin ito sa kalsada.

unless gumawa sila ng overhead station na mataas para maka tawid sa lrt1 tulad ng (recto crossing ng lrt 1 at lrt2) which is mahal...
^^Kung gugustuhin. Kakayanin yan.

Puwede naman idiretso yan (at grade) sa ilalim ng LRT1. At gagawa na lang ng U Turn slut sa EDSA extension. Baka nga lang sumabit ang electrical nito sa ilalim ng LRT1.

Ang bilis magawa ng NEP, kumpleto siguro sa budget at walang sagabal (epal) sa proyektong ito... sana ganito lahat ng proyekto.

Natuloy kaya ang mga kasamahan natin dito na pumasyal sa LRT/MRT depots? Sana lang para may update naman...

:)

^^Natuloy na si Uncle Brad sa pagbisita sa LRT/MRT depot. Kaso di tayo sinama!! WAAAAHHHH!!! :gaah::gaah::gaah:

Its been a while since I posted, but I have been lurking around. Thanks everyone for the updates, they are very much appreciated.:)

hopefully makatakbo yun nep this feb....as sked...

Oo nga... Hindi lang buses.... Pati na rin ang mga jeep... Maingay sa tenga, Mausok pa (Smoke Velching pa....) grrr.....

OT: Bakit hindi nalang gawin ang mga buses katulad nito? (I mean, mga buses dito at mga buses sa ibang bansa (e.g. China) sa loob magkaiba?)

http://www.qd84.com/bbs/attachment/thumb/5_37_ae5588cce4afd72.jpg

Sorry sa OT... just curious... :)

Di pa nga maganda yan...I've seen new and modern buses in Manila traveling along EDSA, with LCD tv pa sa loob at marami na sila. The problem is the number of buses in EDSA. Dapat bawasan sila. The government thru LTFRB says the excess is around 2,000 buses!

update ko lang sa LRT NEP. May electricals na sa may bandang MCU.

Wow! This is the next thing to watch, aside from station finishes. Go NEP!:banana::banana::banana:

One other project that needs to be extended is the path to the NAIA airport.

Amen to this. A healthy metropolis is defined by a network of seamlessly-connected lines of transport which deliberately calls for reduction in use of private cars, jeepneys and buses.:)

i never said that we need to hide poverty. but to revel on it? if its something that we can celebrate, then why struggle to climb the social ladder?

it was never a choice between the two (MRT7 or Divisoria ext.) And i was not the one who first insinuated the importance of one over the other (or at least its the impression that I got). since theyre at it, i just need to stress that the extension to DIVI is never gonna be more important than MRT7 in terms of advantages---not for ease of traffic nor such externalities as tourism.


maglagay na rin tayo ng MRT papuntang baseco compound kasi sa India and Brazil, they already have the slum tour for tourists who want to be titillated by the relentless poverty in the favela/slum compounds.


I hope i can invite you to please come to divisoria these days. True there are still scenes of poverty in the area, a little chaotic but thats part of its charm. And lemme tell you, divisoria is transforming it like never before. Whole stretches of buildings are being demolish wholesale and construction sites are everywhere. In a year or two even ordinary divisoria folks would not be able to find their way around becoz of the massive transformation thats happening now. And also divisoria is a center of business while makati generates billions of money everyday, divisoria is not far behind. Believe me. Need anything divisoria has everything from fake goods to orginals, from needles and thread to huge machineries.

Isa di mahihirap ang mga tindera sa bangketa. Go around and make a survey most of those tindera sa bangketa has well off. May sariling mga bahay mga yan, may kotse and they can afford to eat out everyday. Theyre able to send their kids to school and shop at malls on weekend. They are earning more much much more than those working on 9 to 5 jobs sa makati. Ang pinagkaiba lang maganda lang porma ng mga taga CBDs pero konti lang laman ng bulsa. Divisoria really needs an lrt extension. Since divisoria is near the soon to be rehabilitated north harbor by metro pacific and its near tutuban central train station. More and more ppl wud be pouring in the area soon.

medyo tama ka dyan.....medyo lang :lol:

^ I agree with that. Things change and improve. I have been in Hongkong a few years ago. They have nice airport with subway train. But once you get off the train, and go to the main city. It is very much similar to divisoria or ongpin. There are sleazy,dirty places there.

Some Filipinos just has this inferiority complex, perhaps tuned and drilled into their heads by their parents, (the marcos generation who turned this once well-off country into 3rd world) that the Philippines is poor, corrupt, dirty, and other countries are clean, rich.

wow ngayon ko lang nalaman na prerequisite ang uri ng bato sa pagkakaroon ng subway. I thought it can be handled by engineering design and planning but I guess there is limitation on what we can build and where to build it.

yeah.. kelan ko lang din nalaman yun na kinoconsider ang bato kung lalagyan ng underground station.. so far yung mga may underground station ng mrt e may adobe content sa area.. kaya nagkaron ng buendia at ayala station.

sino ba kaisng me kagagawan kaya puro at-grade ang mrt-3???

anyway,mrt-7 isa great project pero i'm not in favor na simulan 'to unless irevise nila yung design.some of the station are in dubious places(like quirino and mindanao)na wala naman talagang sasakay dahil ang mga places na ito are abandoned lots from sta.lucia.:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

at isa pa,medyo roller coaster ata yung terrain ng dadaanan ng mrt-7 from fairview to manggahan.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

dapat ang mrt-7 dadaan lang from regalado to north edsa then idugtong na lang sa mrt-4(to UST) then isa pang line for quirino highway from blumentritt to tungko.:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

or maybe sakupin ng mrt-7 ang buong commonwealth to its extension sa zabarte road.


sa tingin ko bakit magkakaron or if ever magkaron ng quirino mindanao station na sinasabi mo na wag ng lagyan e i think para mabuhay yung lugar and its a good start for sta.lucia if ever.. kasi kung sa regalado na naman ilalagay yun tiyak yun sisikip sa area.. four lanes lang ata dun e.. sobrang sikip

Privately owned kasi mga buses sa atin kaya for owners hindi profitable pag low seating capacities.

yeah right.. saka most of the buses we have here e galiung din diyan sa mga yan.. pinapalitan lang ang interior para magkaron ng 51 or 61 seats..

^^ lalagyan kaya nila yan ulet ng ballast? ung parang sa LRT 1?hehe

sana lahat na lang ng train stations ng LRT ayusin, mejo madilim na ung ambiance..:nuts:

Need po talaga yan ng Row^^

Nice update:cheers:
Matagal-tagal narin akong bumisita jan at nagulat akong napakalaki ng developments..:)

hopefully makatakbo yun nep this feb....as sked...

if two station were going to operate then pwede siya by feb.. pero sa ntoice nga na nakikita ko sa lrt trains e mukang malabo magopen this month.. anong petsa na? kalagitnaan na ng feb..

Di pa nga maganda yan...I've seen new and modern buses in Manila traveling along EDSA, with LCD tv pa sa loob at marami na sila. The problem is the number of buses in EDSA. Dapat bawasan sila. The government thru LTFRB says the excess is around 2,000 buses!

oh yeah.. LCD monitors.. meron na rin akong nakitang ganun.. malaki siya hindi siya yung PC monitor type na maliit ha.. malaki siya mga 19inch ata yun.. may kulay blue sa gilid yung bus na yun..

Isa di mahihirap ang mga tindera sa bangketa. Go around and make a survey most of those tindera sa bangketa has well off. May sariling mga bahay mga yan, may kotse and they can afford to eat out everyday. Theyre able to send their kids to school and shop at malls on weekend. They are earning more much much more than those working on 9 to 5 jobs sa makati. Ang pinagkaiba lang maganda lang porma ng mga taga CBDs pero konti lang laman ng bulsa. Divisoria really needs an lrt extension. Since divisoria is near the soon to be rehabilitated north harbor by metro pacific and its near tutuban central train station. More and more ppl wud be pouring in the area soon.

Those vendors are not poor, of course. Divisoria/Recto areas are good. Yes, you're right, construction boom is evident in Chinatown. However, I've seen the dirt in Recto near LRT station. The shanties are still there. In Tutuban and Divisoria, the main problem there is the lack of order of jeepneys. They used C.M. Recto as their terminal and the proliferation of padyaks.

:lol:if two station were going to operate then pwede siya by feb.. pero sa ntoice nga na nakikita ko sa lrt trains e mukang malabo magopen this month.. anong petsa na? kalagitnaan na ng feb..

if they hit feb 28....as sked pa rin....:lol: sabi lang naman ay by feb eh...

^^Natuloy na si Uncle Brad sa pagbisita sa LRT/MRT depot. Kaso di tayo sinama!! WAAAAHHHH!!! :gaah::gaah::gaah:

Naku sayang... di bale abangan na lang natin ang updates from Uncle. :)

PS. Kung ang DMU may user & specification manuals malamang merun din ang mga LRT-MRT trains...

^^Available kaya yun sa internet?

Di pa nga maganda yan...I've seen new and modern buses in Manila traveling along EDSA, with LCD tv pa sa loob at marami na sila. The problem is the number of buses in EDSA. Dapat bawasan sila. The government thru LTFRB says the excess is around 2,000 buses!

OT:

I mean, bakit hindi ganyan ang buses natin sa city route(City operaion buses)?

oh yeah.. LCD monitors.. meron na rin akong nakitang ganun.. malaki siya hindi siya yung PC monitor type na maliit ha.. malaki siya mga 19inch ata yun.. may kulay blue sa gilid yung bus na yun..

Or baka sinasabi niyo ang Provincial buses na maganda at bago...

Pero bakit hindi ganyan ang loob ng city buses? :)

http://www.a.com.cn/Enterprise/Upfiles/200609/710148311.jpg

Sorry sa OT ulet...

about MRT:

sa Quezon Avenue station lang ba ang piniinturahan ng white, o lahat ng stations issususnod?

about EDSA buses:

reported today in People's Journal about LTFRB's Suansing informing all bus company that they will now start strictly implementing only 500 buses in Edsa (report also says that these 500 buses should be the new models), a memo was already given to all about the plan of diverting the excess buses (INCLUDING ALL PROVINCIAL BUSES) away from EDSA and giving them their own route.

Can we please have the discussion about buses in the appropriate thread?

Its very frustrating to see movement in this thread only to find out its not about MRT/LRT. We already have other threads where you can discuss your fascination with buses below..

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1054463

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=832182

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=846778

Thank you

Nice updates! Sir Han.:cheers:

Can we please have the discussion about buses in the appropriate thread?

Its very frustrating to see movement in this thread only to find out its not about MRT/LRT. We already have other threads where you can discuss your fascination with buses below..

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1054463

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=832182

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=846778

Thank you

Sorry naman... NagOT lang naman ako eh...

Sige, not to talk again about the Buses na... Let's go on to the LRT-MRT Topic... :)

about MRT:

sa Quezon Avenue station lang ba ang piniinturahan ng white, o lahat ng stations issususnod?

about EDSA buses:

reported today in People's Journal about LTFRB's Suansing informing all bus company that they will now start strictly implementing only 500 buses in Edsa (report also says that these 500 buses should be the new models), a memo was already given to all about the plan of diverting the excess buses (INCLUDING ALL PROVINCIAL BUSES) away from EDSA and giving them their own route.

OT: naku i doubt kung masusunod. tatapatan lang yan ng strike then wala na.. LTFRB is an example of a failed agency, dami daming laws wala namang silbi.. Dapat tangalan lahat yan ng franchise and i regulate ulet ang bus para makagawa ng BRT..

^^Please kung magrereply kayo sa OT post paki lagay na lang sa tamang thread. Para di nagugulo ang thread na ito... Salamat po..

Puwede mong gawin ay copy mo yung quote nya at paste mo sa tamang thread.
Salamat ulit

meron na palang mga rails ang bilis ng gawa nila ha...nakita ko na may tumatakbo na mechanized object don sa ibabaw na parang engine ng tren.....siguro tinitest lang kung tama ang sukat ng rails....sana test na sila na may hila na bagon...

OT:

I mean, bakit hindi ganyan ang buses natin sa city route(City operaion buses)?



Or baka sinasabi niyo ang Provincial buses na maganda at bago...

Pero bakit hindi ganyan ang loob ng city buses? :)

Sorry sa OT ulet...

in demand kasi ang mga city buses marami sila pasahero at awkward naman kung nakatayo lahat ng pasahero siempre mabuti na yung nakaupo ka kasi matraffic at di mo rin naman siguro gugustuhin tumayo ng ganun katagal diba?

hindi provincial bus yung sinasabi namin.. city bus siya na biyaheng baclaran-letre ata yun...

any updates kung natanggal na yung harang the loop?!

o.t.
pano pumunta ng circle c mall? if galing ako ng mrt north ave station?

^^San ba yang Circle C Mall? Ngayon ko lang narinig yan eh.. Pasensya na... :lol:
Dapat siguro dito mo itanong sa Mega Metro Manila Malls Thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=906726) :D:D

Pwede lang yung city buses na kaunti ang upuan kung feeder routes lang ang byahe nya. Yung tipong dadalhin ka lang sa MRT station gaya sa ibang bansa. Ganon naman talaga ideally. MRT pag malayo, bus sa malapit.

ay meron niyan.. yung mini bus na galing airport tapos seating capacity lang siya walang tatayo.. ang ruta niya is naia terminals-giselle park plaza sa may likod ng sogo edsa taft..

^^San ba yang Circle C Mall? Ngayon ko lang narinig yan eh.. Pasensya na... :lol:
Dapat siguro dito mo itanong sa Mega Metro Manila Malls Thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=906726) :D:D

congressional ave. q.c daw ito e.. kaso di ko rin alam yun papunta daw ito ng trinoma.. actually store ng shirts.ph ang hinahanap ko.. gusto ko kasi bilhin yung isang design ng t-shirt nila na

"PAG BOBO ANG GOBYERNO.. BOBO ANG BUMOTO.."

^^Sakay ka ng bus going Nova-C5 tapos dadaan yun sa congressional avenue. Yaan mong mag-U-turn ang bus para makatawid sa Mindanao-Congressional intersecion. Sa side ng KFC sakay ka ng jeep papunta ng Visayas para madaanan mo yung cluster of commercial buildings. On the left is Circle C mall.

^^Available kaya yun sa internet?

Merun specs sa website ng DOTC, kaso baka kako meron nun kamukha ng booklet (Owner's Manual) na nakita nyo para sa Rotem DMU ng PNR. :)


Promises... promises...
Villar pushes Baclaran-Cavite LRT plan (http://www3.mb.com.ph/articles/243292/villar-pushes-baclarancavite-lrt-plan)
By ROLLY T. CARANDANG
February 13, 2010, 3:01pm
Nacionalista Party (NP) standard-bearer Manny Villar Saturday said that if elected, his administration will restart the derailed Baclaran-Cavite Light Rail Transit (LRT) project as he vowed not to let politics delay its completion.

“I have always supported the LRT extension. Although I am from Las Piñas, I consider myself a Caviteño. Many of the projects I have pushed are in Cavite,” Villar told a huge crowd in Tanza, Cavite.

“Up to now, the LRT extension project remains in the drawing boards, he said.

The Cavite line of the LRT project was abruptly scrapped in January due to politics, although the Arroyo administration has been insisting the cancellation was due to lack of material time to groundbreak the project.

Reports said Malacañang’s decision to scrap the project is President Arroyo’s way of punishing local officials who have turned opposition.

The LRT extension line is an 11.7-kilometer connection from Baclaran to Bacoor, Cavite. The new line will have 10 passenger stations and will run through Las Piñas and Parañaque going to Cavite.

The LRT Line 1 – which stretches from Monument to Baclaran – carried 149.44 million passengers last year. The LRT extension line to Cavite will provide convenience for millions of Caviteños and at the same time open new business opportunities for both Caviteños and Metro Manilans.

Villar stressed that he is committed to the further development of Cavite, that has blossomed into a high-growth area in the last two decades, hosting industrial zones, leisure parks and resorts, commercial centers and residential zones.

Promises... promises...

Malay nga natin, i-pursue nya talaga ito pag presidente na siya. Kahit na mapulitika sa Villar may direksyon naman ang mga plataporma nya. Sana nga lang di ito madawit sa kontrobersya di gaya ng isa nyang road project.:nuts:

o0u3JwM-AUk

^^Available kaya yun sa internet?

Meron yan. Lahat naman nakukuha sa Internet. Matinding Google search lang kailangan. :nuts:

^^Please kung magrereply kayo sa OT post paki lagay na lang sa tamang thread. Para di nagugulo ang thread na ito... Salamat po..

Puwede mong gawin ay copy mo yung quote nya at paste mo sa tamang thread.
Salamat ulit

Sorry Mod...este Master Happosai :D

wala lang, maganda lang pagkakuha...

2sKEjzuPBp8
:cheers:

i think this PGMA speech was delivered last Feb 5, 2010, before the CEU students and school officials, mentioning the LRT-MRT loop as well as her other admin projects...

Y3l4WO_YJaw

:cheers:

wala lang, maganda lang pagkakuha...

2sKEjzuPBp8
:cheers:

do you have those pictures ng mga vendors na on that bridge going to mrt?

do you have those pictures ng mga vendors na on that bridge going to mrt?

no, i don't have,:ohno: i'm not the one who recorded this video,

ah ganun ba?! sana kung magawi ka sa area na to e makunan mo sila ng pic.. nakakairita na kasi yung mga stalls diyan at yung mga vendor.. kahapon nga muntik ng may nagsuntukan kasi nagkatraffic dun sa pasukan pa mrt gawa nung mga vendors na andun pati yung mascot hindi nakaligtas sa init ng ulo ng mga pasahero. hindi naman na kasi nakakatuwa ang sikip sikip na tapos may mascot pa dun..

^^May mascot pala doon.. di ko napansin kagabi... :lol:

Tama ka.. ang sikip sikip na nga doon lalu pa nila pinasikip. Sino bang nagpalagay ng mga vendor doon? Sa mall ba yun or sa city government?


@han... imagine mo na lang yang pa curve na yan sa video ay papuntang North Ave. station ng MRT3... kay gandang tignan... :D:D:D

Guys, can you help me out. nag tataka kasi ako bakit di pa ginagawa ang ang SM North Ave. Station ng LRT 1 Extension? Ano nangyari? Di na ba ito itatayo?

ah ganun ba?! sana kung magawi ka sa area na to e makunan mo sila ng pic.. nakakairita na kasi yung mga stalls diyan at yung mga vendor.. kahapon nga muntik ng may nagsuntukan kasi nagkatraffic dun sa pasukan pa mrt gawa nung mga vendors na andun pati yung mascot hindi nakaligtas sa init ng ulo ng mga pasahero. hindi naman na kasi nakakatuwa ang sikip sikip na tapos may mascot pa dun..



That's right, need na talagang alisin ang mga vendor sa bawat mga way papuntang station, sus, meron pang mascot:bash:

Sino bang hindi magagalit sa bulok na sistemang ito?


^^May mascot pala doon.. di ko napansin kagabi... :lol:

Tama ka.. ang sikip sikip na nga doon lalu pa nila pinasikip. Sino bang nagpalagay ng mga vendor doon? Sa mall ba yun or sa city government?


@han... imagine mo na lang yang pa curve na yan sa video ay papuntang North Ave. station ng MRT3... kay gandang tignan... :D:D:D


Nagagawi ako jan:)

Guys, can you help me out. nag tataka kasi ako bakit di pa ginagawa ang ang SM North Ave. Station ng LRT 1 Extension? Ano nangyari? Di na ba ito itatayo?

May - November 2010 pa ang target completion date ng SM North Ave (LRT 1, MRT 7, MRT 3 Common station). Nakatutok sila ngayon sa February - March 2010 opening ng Balintawak and Munoz stations ng LRT NEP.

Merun specs sa website ng DOTC, kaso baka kako meron nun kamukha ng booklet (Owner's Manual) na nakita nyo para sa Rotem DMU ng PNR. :)

Quote:
Villar pushes Baclaran-Cavite LRT plan
By ROLLY T. CARANDANG
February 13, 2010, 3:01pm

Nacionalista Party (NP) standard-bearer Manny Villar Saturday said that if elected, his administration will restart the derailed Baclaran-Cavite Light Rail Transit (LRT) project as he vowed not to let politics delay its completion.

“I have always supported the LRT extension. Although I am from Las Piñas, I consider myself a Caviteño. Many of the projects I have pushed are in Cavite,” Villar told a huge crowd in Tanza, Cavite.

“Up to now, the LRT extension project remains in the drawing boards, he said.

The Cavite line of the LRT project was abruptly scrapped in January due to politics, although the Arroyo administration has been insisting the cancellation was due to lack of material time to groundbreak the project.

Reports said Malacañang’s decision to scrap the project is President Arroyo’s way of punishing local officials who have turned opposition.

The LRT extension line is an 11.7-kilometer connection from Baclaran to Bacoor, Cavite. The new line will have 10 passenger stations and will run through Las Piñas and Parañaque going to Cavite.

The LRT Line 1 – which stretches from Monument to Baclaran – carried 149.44 million passengers last year. The LRT extension line to Cavite will provide convenience for millions of Caviteños and at the same time open new business opportunities for both Caviteños and Metro Manilans.

Villar stressed that he is committed to the further development of Cavite, that has blossomed into a high-growth area in the last two decades, hosting industrial zones, leisure parks and resorts, commercial centers and residential zones.
Promises... promises...

This will be done. :)

May - November 2010 pa ang target completion date ng SM North Ave (LRT 1, MRT 7, MRT 3 Common station). Nakatutok sila ngayon sa February - March 2010 opening ng Balintawak and Munoz stations ng LRT NEP.

Bakit hindi nalang nila pinagsabay sabay gumawa? Para mas mabilis.... Or may feasibility studies pa??:nuts:

Bakit hindi nalang nila pinagsabay sabay gumawa? Para mas mabilis.... Or may feasibility studies pa??:nuts:

1) Issues concerning MRT 7 (which parts should be constructed/maintained by whom, additional cost since the LRT NEP only required a regular LRT-MRT station prior to NEDA's approval of a MRT 7 common station late last year)

2) Completion is beyond GMA's term.

Double Post

Villar pushes Baclaran-Cavite LRT plan
By ROLLY T. CARANDANG
February 13, 2010, 3:01pm
Nacionalista Party (NP) standard-bearer Manny Villar Saturday said that if elected, his administration will restart the derailed Baclaran-Cavite Light Rail Transit (LRT) project as he vowed not to let politics delay its completion.

“I have always supported the LRT extension. Although I am from Las Piñas, I consider myself a Caviteño. Many of the projects I have pushed are in Cavite,” Villar told a huge crowd in Tanza, Cavite.

“Up to now, the LRT extension project remains in the drawing boards, he said.

The Cavite line of the LRT project was abruptly scrapped in January due to politics, although the Arroyo administration has been insisting the cancellation was due to lack of material time to groundbreak the project.

Reports said Malacañang’s decision to scrap the project is President Arroyo’s way of punishing local officials who have turned opposition.

The LRT extension line is an 11.7-kilometer connection from Baclaran to Bacoor, Cavite. The new line will have 10 passenger stations and will run through Las Piñas and Parañaque going to Cavite.

The LRT Line 1 – which stretches from Monument to Baclaran – carried 149.44 million passengers last year. The LRT extension line to Cavite will provide convenience for millions of Caviteños and at the same time open new business opportunities for both Caviteños and Metro Manilans.

Villar stressed that he is committed to the further development of Cavite, that has blossomed into a high-growth area in the last two decades, hosting industrial zones, leisure parks and resorts, commercial centers and residential zones.

aling mga subdivisions nya na naman kaya ito idadaan?

i think this PGMA speech was delivered last Feb 5, 2010, before the CEU students and school officials, mentioning the LRT-MRT loop as well as her other admin projects...

Y3l4WO_YJaw

:cheers:

obvious that the students hindi alam ang northrail and southrail projects...napapatunganga sila....if only the government was able to inform its many achievement baka hindi masyado ka unpopular itong si pgma...

Can I know when the expansion project is suggested and how long it took to complete the design and build it?
KL also got an expansion project but I still don't know when they will carry out this project...

^^Can anybody confirm kung may test run na naganap sa NEP kanina? May tren kasi na di nagpasakay kanina at sinabi na gagamitin for a test run sa NEP.

i'm very happy for this! once this gets completed I can go left or right and round and round. :banana:

Our house is inside the City Circle or so called MRT/LRT loop and the station is just 300 meters away.

Bakit hindi nalang nila pinagsabay sabay gumawa? Para mas mabilis.... Or may feasibility studies pa??:nuts:

Hindi pwede pagsabay-sabayin ang gawaan, isang MRT palang kulang na sa pondo, e kung pagsabayin pa kaya?:nuts::ohno:

i'm very happy for this! once this gets completed I can go left or right and round and round. :banana:

Our house is inside the City Circle or so called MRT/LRT loop and the station is just 300 meters away.

Congrats to you, aren't you lucky. Well, mine is about 150 from EDSA MRT stop. But it's packed already by then.

^^Can anybody confirm kung may test run na naganap sa NEP kanina? May tren kasi na di nagpasakay kanina at sinabi na gagamitin for a test run sa NEP.

Electrified na ba yung mga overhead wires sa area na yun?

Anung tren ginamit, LRT?

^ kaya nga dapat maglagay din ng BRT sa metro manila. Especiallly for those places where and LRT is not feasible. Dapat ahead ang planning nito. Actually BRT is just a bus, that is operated by the government. BRT must be placed on those places na medyo liblib at hindi aabutin ng LRT.

What if bilhin na lang nila yung mga jayross,santan and pascual buses then convert them to BRT???

Or maybe JRT?(Jeepney Rail Transit)???:lol::lol::lol:

Eli Levin is the one to blame for the design of MRT 3. And he plans to do it with MRT 7 as well!:bash:

I really doubt his personality.I heard in this thread that he is a fixer of some sort.

I can't even find any information about him on google.

sa tingin ko bakit magkakaron or if ever magkaron ng quirino mindanao station na sinasabi mo na wag ng lagyan e i think para mabuhay yung lugar and its a good start for sta.lucia if ever.. kasi kung sa regalado na naman ilalagay yun tiyak yun sisikip sa area.. four lanes lang ata dun e.. sobrang sikip

The Regalado station is important for it serves as a transit point to the north.

I don't say that the Quirino and Mindanao stations be scrapped.Look at the pictures and you'll get my point.^^^^^^

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii25/paulmckey/index-2.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii25/paulmckey/Station-11-12-1.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii25/paulmckey/Station-10-1.jpg

(pictures from the MRT-7 Project website!!!):lol::lol::lol:

See.

1.Why an at-grade station at Lagro(Sacred Heart)if the area has only 4 lanes of road???And why the Sacred Heart and Quirino stations are too close to each other???

2.Maybe a better option is to adjust the location of the Qurino and Mindanao stations so that it can be more feasible.

Quirino-In front of SM Fairview
Mindanao(should I say Bristol)-Near OLFU Lagro
Regalado-In Front of NCBA/FCM

MRT-7 is a great project but I think necessary adjustments should me made(like kicking the Eli Levin thing out,selling the shares to LRTA/SM/or MTR Hongkong,as I've read,and making the line elevated-underground).In that way it would be very beneficial to all those living in the north rather than become a white elephant.:bash::bash::bash:

Anyway,I live in North Caloocan and I study in Lagro so I knew all of these things.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Is this the ELI LEVIN that we hate???Click the link. (http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=627581813)

The Regalado station is important for it serves as a transit point to the north.
I don't say that the Quirino and Mindanao stations be scrapped.Look at the pictures and you'll get my point.^^^^^^

...Maybe a better option is to adjust the location of the Qurino and Mindanao stations so that it can be more feasible.

Quirino-In front of SM Fairview
Mindanao(should I say Bristol)-Near OLFU Lagro
Regalado-In Front of NCBA/FCM

MRT-7 is a great project but I think necessary adjustments should me made...

Anyway,I live in North Caloocan and I study in Lagro so I knew all of these things.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I agree with you. Here's my point regarding the alignment:

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3865/index2c.jpg

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/848/station11121copy.jpg

Paulomikael is right with regards to re-locating Mindanao and Quirino stations but IMO, these two stations wouldn't be effective if you'll re-align the MRT7 into Fatima part since it will bypass the SM-Robinson area as part of important transport hub in Northern Metro. To add, there's a bus station built beside Nova Market. In my plan, existing bus terminal will be integrated with the nearby Quirino station as also conected to the two malls. Having them at-grade is also ridiculous. IMO. if they wan't an at-grade line, do it at the widest portion of C'wealth and not on the Sacred Heart part.

I agree with you. Here's my point regarding the alignment:

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3865/index2c.jpg

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/848/station11121copy.jpg

Paulomikael is right with regards to re-locating Mindanao and Quirino stations but IMO, these two stations wouldn't be effective if you'll re-align the MRT7 into Fatima part since it will bypass the SM-Robinson area as part of important transport hub in Northern Metro. To add, there's a bus station built beside nova Market. In my plan, existing bust terminal will be integrated with the nearby Quirino station as also conected to the two malls. Having them at grace is also ridiculous. IMO. if they wan't an at-grade line, do it at the widest portion of C'wealth and not on the Sacred Heart part.

Tama!!!
Padaanin na lang dun sa Annex 2 kaysa sa Regalado Avenue para mas malapit ang labas sa Commonwealth!!!


http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii25/paulmckey/untitled-3.jpg

Ito yung idea ko kasi malayo yung pagitan between Regalado and Qurino Stations.:lol::lol::lol:

thanks flip...
sana matapos this year para connected na talaga sa MRT ang LRT..

aling mga subdivisions nya na naman kaya ito idadaan?

Haha! This made my day. :cheers:

na umpisahan na ba yung MRT7 to fairview and bulacan? panong matatapos e di pa nga nag uumpisa?

^^Can anybody confirm kung may test run na naganap sa NEP kanina? May tren kasi na di nagpasakay kanina at sinabi na gagamitin for a test run sa NEP.

^^ i saw a certain machine running backwards from MRT3 towards Monumento earlier today at SM North... pero walang hinihilang tren...

Hindi pwede pagsabay-sabayin ang gawaan, isang MRT palang kulang na sa pondo, e kung pagsabayin pa kaya?:nuts::ohno:

Oo nga.... :lol: Anyone who knows that when the MRT7 starts its construction? Tagal na ang delay eh... :ohno:

I am really hoping for MRT-7 and MRT-9 to just be one line instead of two lines. It would really save a lot of time and effort.

tama ka jan .. :cheers: ^^ ^^

there is a reason why regalado station was included in the proposed stations, it is located on a strategic location, the regalado/commonwealth crossing can cater more commuters from regalado street and its adjacent streets, there is a mall as well as a university located there, at kung sasabihin nating makipot ang daanan dito look at the case of LRT-1 in taft avenue/rizal avenue...:)

there is a reason why regalado station was included in the proposed stations, it is located on a strategic location, the regalado/commonwealth crossing can cater more commuters from regalado street and its adjacent streets, there is a mall as well as a university located there, at kung sasabihin nating makipot ang daanan dito look at the case of LRT-1 in taft avenue/rizal avenue...:)

i think the stations after SM FAIRVIEW, are vanity stations. not necessary at all. putulin na lang yan at gamitin ang budget for extension, whether cavite or divisoria.

^ no such thing as nice to have stations. An area with an LRT/MRT station will always attract developments in that area. And appreciate that land in that area.

^^May mascot pala doon.. di ko napansin kagabi... :lol:

Tama ka.. ang sikip sikip na nga doon lalu pa nila pinasikip. Sino bang nagpalagay ng mga vendor doon? Sa mall ba yun or sa city government?

yung mascot na may tv sa ulo.. i mean yung head niya e tv.. gets? palagay ko MRT din ang pasimuno nun e hindi nila mapaalis yung may mga stall dun.. so ibig sabihin kumikita sila.. at yun ang dapat ma expose.. hindi ginawa yun para sa kanila kundi para sa mga passenger.. kakainis..

^^Kung plano pala nila mag lagay ng mga vendor doon. Dapat nilaparan pa nila yung walkway para may space para sa vendor.

For those who do not pass North EDSA that often or who are abroad... Here's a video of the progress seen in the LRT-MRT Loop up to Balintawak Station while driving...

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Enjoy!

For those who do not pass North EDSA that often or who are abroad... Here's a video of the progress seen in the LRT-MRT Loop up to Balintawak Station while driving...

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Enjoy!

OT: The whole duration of the video... dalawa lang nakita kong nag-turn signal muna bago nag-change lane (Yung bus at pickup sa huling part ng video). Tsk tsk tsk... sobrang disiplinado talaga ng mga pinoy sa kalsada, walang pinagkaiba pati mga private car owners. :bash::bash::bash::bash:

OT: The whole duration of the video... dalawa lang nakita kong nag-turn signal muna bago nag-change lane (Yung bus at pickup sa huling part ng video). Tsk tsk tsk... sobrang disiplinado talaga ng mga pinoy sa kalsada, walang pinagkaiba pati mga private car owners. :bash::bash::bash::bash:

3 kaya. Isa pang KIA car sa unahan ng video... :lol:

Tapos meron pang nakahinto sa First lane ng EDSA (near Wilcon's depot...) :ohno: May vendors pa naglalakad.... hay naku.... :ohno:

Bold: Tama... super discipline ang mga drivers dito sa MM... lalo na yung mga buses and jeeps... WOW! :cheers:

Oops, OT na yata ako ah... :)

Parang napapangitan ako sa mga tubo sa mga piers sa LRT NEP... such a eye sore talaga....

Di ba nila pwedeng tanggalin or itago para di makita para mas maganda? :)

My Assessment:

Line 1 - Dirtiest
Line 2 - Cleanest
Line 3 - Fastest

Oo nga.... :lol: Anyone who knows that when the MRT7 starts its construction? Tagal na ang delay eh... :ohno:

Yup! ganon na nga ibig ko sabihin, pero kahit na delay pa iyan ng ilang buwan, ok narin at nakikita kong may nagagawa..

Kelan ba matatapos ito?

My Assessment:

Line 1 - Dirtiest
Line 2 - Cleanest
Line 3 - Fastest

I Agree... hahaha.... :lol:

Kailangan na talaga i-rehabilitate ang LRT 1.... :)

My Assessment:

Line 1 - Dirtiest
Line 2 - Cleanest
Line 3 - Fastest
LOL

Pwede, hehe. Wala tau magagawa sa Line 1, it's like, almost 3 decades old so..
Yup MRT-3 is the fastest, from TriNoma to Taft in 30 minutes. San ka pa.
Yeah bakit nga ba LRT-2 is the cleanest, it really is malinis.

I did a Line hop a while ago by passing all 3 lines in a day, wala lang. It's fun.

LOL

Pwede, hehe. Wala tau magagawa sa Line 1, it's like, almost 3 decades old so..
Yup MRT-3 is the fastest, from TriNoma to Taft in 30 minutes. San ka pa.
Yeah bakit nga ba LRT-2 is the cleanest, it really is malinis.

I did a Line hop a while ago by passing all 3 lines in a day, wala lang. It's fun.

Magkano ang lahat na ginastos mo doon? :lol:

LRT 1 may be the dirtiest, but it's the most reliable.

lrt line 1 started it all. But some coaches are brand new. Our LRt is in fact faster than train systems in some high-income countries.

obvious that the students hindi alam ang northrail and southrail projects...napapatunganga sila....if only the government was able to inform its many achievement baka hindi masyado ka unpopular itong si pgma...

Hay mga tangang matatalino lang sila kasi mga de - kotse sila at palagi lang nilang nakikita ay ang LRT at MRT ngunit di nila alam ang PNR kasi masyado silang mayaman kaya hindi pa sa kanila nabubura na ang PNR ay riles ng kahirapan pero ngayon simbulo na rin ito ng kaunlaran. Isa lang ang masasabi ko lahat ang riles ng tren rito sa atin ay halaga sa ating pang araw -araw na buhay dahil kung walang riles hindi matatawag na maunlad ang isang bansa.:)

^ it was popularized by Home Along the riles by dolphy. So almost everyone, especially the immigrants now in other countries think that riding the PNR train is cheap. Also tell them that you rode the pasig river ferry and they would probably laugh at you.

they imagine the PNR as a place of squatters and pasig river as filthy dirty,sewage

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lrt line 1 started it all. But some coaches are brand new. Our LRt is in fact faster than train systems in some high-income countries.

A high or low income country is not important for a good Metro or Light Railway System. Sign of a good system are: A good planing, short walk distance for interchange, a system to use the network with one ticket. Let the passengers out of train before go in, don't jump the lane at the ticket counter and ticket machines at the platform, etc. I know more as 30 metro systems and know it safes more time for short walk to interchange, one ticket for all lines and politely passengers instead uncontrolled crowded commuters in brandnew fast coaches.

A high or low income country is not important for a good Metro or Light Railway System. Sign of a good system are: A good planing, short walk distance for interchange, a system to use the network with one ticket. Let the passengers out of train before go in, don't jump the lane at the ticket counter and ticket machines at the platform, etc. I know more as 30 metro systems and know it safes more time for short walk to interchange, one ticket for all lines and politely passengers instead uncontrolled crowded commuters in brandnew fast coaches.

yes that's right. We need to have only 1 ticket for all the lines. I suggest we have a daily and hourly ticket, unlimited ride, anywhere, as that is less confusing to use, instead of a destination ticket with fares for each destination. Are there any plans for this? 1 ticket for ferry,PNR,LRT/MRT with hourly and daily expiry.

It would have been best if we could have double deck coaches. This is level on the doorways, and then splits on the middle into 2 levels.:cheers:

LOL

Pwede, hehe. Wala tau magagawa sa Line 1, it's like, almost 3 decades old so..
Yup MRT-3 is the fastest, from TriNoma to Taft in 30 minutes. San ka pa.
Yeah bakit nga ba LRT-2 is the cleanest, it really is malinis.

I did a Line hop a while ago by passing all 3 lines in a day, wala lang. It's fun.

lol. lihe hop.. try ko dn bukas. :cheers:

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sana ganun na lang di tulak para ang pamasahe e mura mura.. :D

lrt line 1 started it all. But some coaches are brand new. Our LRt is in fact faster than train systems in some high-income countries.

hmmm compared to Taipei Mrt,they are faster than Manila Mrt.

My Assessment:

Line 1 - Dirtiest
Line 2 - Cleanest
Line 3 - Fastest

LRT2 the cleanest?? Hahaha... nakapunta ka na ba sa Recto station? :lol::lol:

LRT2 the cleanest?? Hahaha... nakapunta ka na ba sa Recto station? :lol::lol:


yeah but at least its the cleanest in philippine standard :lol:

im dreaming of one day we could match at least bangkok BTS, lrt 2 is close but sa ticket machines and station cleanliness talo tayo

^^^^

pardon my ignorance, dun sa video clip, hila-hila ba ng tren yung truck o yung truck ang nagtutulak sa tren, o sinusundan lang nung truck yung tren?

^^Baka dahil wala pang Overhead Electrification ang NEP para sa LRV's kaya yung truck ang nagpapatakbo ng 3G coaches.:nuts:


...im dreaming of one day we could match at least bangkok BTS, lrt 2 is close but sa ticket machines and station cleanliness talo tayo

Ours (MRT2) is actually at par with BTS and other modern mass rails in Asia. It's just that we don't maintain the stations properly, like in the case of Recto.:ohno:

Oooppss... baka mapunta na naman tayo sa compare and contrast nyan. LOL.
Anyway, tama si Kuya Heinz. Ang pagiging efficient at well-planned sytem ng LRT/MRT pa rin ang batayan ng pagiging maayos ng urban rails natin, di lang basta malinis. Yun naman ay nasa tao na at nasa BEHAVIOR ng mga sumasakay nito, lalo na ang pagbigyan muna ang mga lumalabas ng tren bago sila sumakay. Unfortunately, marami tayong kababayan ang walang pakialam sa kapwa nila.:bash:

Good Afternoon to all forumers......


Kasasakay ko lang po ng LRT 2 sa recto kaninang umaga, papuntang marikina...at good condition lahat.....:)








LRT2 the cleanest?? Hahaha... nakapunta ka na ba sa Recto station? :lol::lol:


Yung banda sa recto ay hindi masasabi ang kalinisan ang station dun:nuts:


^^Baka dahil wala pang Overhead Electrification ang NEP para sa LRV's kaya yung truck ang nagpapatakbo ng 3G coaches.:nuts:



Ours (MRT2) is actually at par with BTS and other modern mass rails in Asia. It's just that we don't maintain the stations properly, like in the case of Recto.:ohno:

Oooppss... baka mapunta na naman tayo sa compare and contrast nyan. LOL.
Anyway, tama si Kuya Heinz. Ang pagiging efficient at well-planned sytem ng LRT/MRT pa rin ang batayan ng pagiging maayos ng urban rails natin, di lang basta malinis. Yun naman ay nasa tao na at nasa BEHAVIOR ng mga sumasakay nito, lalo na ang pagbigyan muna ang mga lumalabas ng tren bago sila sumakay. Unfortunately, marami tayong kababayan ang walang pakialam sa kapwa nila.:bash:

No way po sa mga ganitong usapin, well makontento na tayo kung anong MRT-LRT ang meron sa metro..:)

hmmm compared to Taipei Mrt,they are faster than Manila Mrt.

did I say 'all' ? I said some . Some train systems in high-income countries are darn slower than what we have right now.

Why are people here very insecure about themselves? Its like they keep on looking up and comparing other countries which are better. Inferiority complex must be rearing its ugly head. :lol:

or maybe likes to brag that they have been to other countries.. :nuts:

well then move to taipei, nobody is forcing you to live in manila

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Mukang tinesting na nila yung NEP kung swabe ang daan ng mga LRT coaches. Ito rin siguro yung sinsabi Happs.

LRT2 the cleanest?? Hahaha... nakapunta ka na ba sa Recto station? :lol::lol:

Sings to the tune of Manny Villar's jingle: nakapunta ka na ba sa Recto station? :lol::lol:

Ours (MRT2) is actually at par with BTS and other modern mass rails in Asia. It's just that we don't maintain the stations properly, like in the case of Recto.:ohno:

Oooppss... baka mapunta na naman tayo sa compare and contrast nyan. LOL.
Anyway, tama si Kuya Heinz. Ang pagiging efficient at well-planned sytem ng LRT/MRT pa rin ang batayan ng pagiging maayos ng urban rails natin, di lang basta malinis. Yun naman ay nasa tao na at nasa BEHAVIOR ng mga sumasakay nito, lalo na ang pagbigyan muna ang mga lumalabas ng tren bago sila sumakay. Unfortunately, marami tayong kababayan ang walang pakialam sa kapwa nila.:bash:

Tama.. May point ka... Sa tao lang ang titignan eh.. Kung may disiplina ang mga tao, Maganda tignan ang mga station natin... Lalo ang mga piers, binababoy minsan ng mga tao... (nilalagay ng mga sulat ng mga gangs...) :ohno:

Yun lang. :)

Magkano ang lahat na ginastos mo doon? :lol:

I Think, LRT-1 Buendia to Doroteo Jose, 14? or 16? I did count the change, then walked to Recto (masarap pala yung quail eggs, hehe) then I used the slot machines uhh, i forgot the price and init eh hehe, :lol: that's LRT-2 from Recto to Araneta Center Cubao, then walked through Gateway then icky Farmer's Market then the MRT-3 to North Avenue station. siguro more or less 50 pesos?:)

I Think, LRT-1 Buendia to Doroteo Jose, 14? or 16? I did count the change, then walked to Recto (masarap pala yung quail eggs, hehe) then I used the slot machines uhh, i forgot the price and init eh hehe, :lol: that's LRT-2 from Recto to Araneta Center Cubao, then walked through Gateway then icky Farmer's Market then the MRT-3 to North Avenue station. siguro more or less 50 pesos?:)

Safe time, long walk, money and nerves: Take LRT1 to EDSA, take short walk to MRT3 Taft and ride to North Av. But please have for MRT3 a stored value ticket that you can go direct to the slot machine. To buy a single ticket at Taft needs a lot, lot, lot of time...

there is a reason why regalado station was included in the proposed stations, it is located on a strategic location, the regalado/commonwealth crossing can cater more commuters from regalado street and its adjacent streets, there is a mall as well as a university located there, at kung sasabihin nating makipot ang daanan dito look at the case of LRT-1 in taft avenue/rizal avenue...:)

Hahaha tama.

i think the stations after SM FAIRVIEW, are vanity stations. not necessary at all. putulin na lang yan at gamitin ang budget for extension, whether cavite or divisoria.

Saan puputulin???Meaning di na sya dadaan sa pinakamamahal nating Tungko???

Pwede.

Dapat talaga ang original na MRT-7(or MRT-4 for that matter) ay dadaan from SM Fairview to UST,taking the Commonwealth-Quezon Ave. route.

Napakacomplex kasi talaga kung magkakaroon ng lines in the North. A suggestion maybe this.One line...

Bagong Silang-UST(Zabarte Road-Commonwealth Ave-Quezon Ave,total extended na ang Cwealth to Zabarte)

Bigte-Balintawak(Quirino Highway Route,Ewan ko if that's possible.):cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

Mukang tinesting na nila yung NEP kung swabe ang daan ng mga LRT coaches. Ito rin siguro yung sinsabi Happs.
^^Yan yung sinasabi ni WOS na friction test. Mukhang mababawasan ang tampering services ni DC. Di na yata lalagyan ng ballast sa NEP.. :lol:


Sings to the tune of Manny Villar's jingle: nakapunta ka na ba sa Recto station? :lol::lol:

^^:lol::lol::lol::lol:
dagdagan natin...

Nalaman nyo na ba na napakadungis na nya?
Tuturukan tayo ng holdaper sa kanto...

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

^^Yan yung sinasabi ni WOS na friction test. Mukhang mababawasan ang tampering services ni DC. Di na yata lalagyan ng ballast sa NEP.. :lol:




^^:lol::lol::lol::lol:
dagdagan natin...

Nalaman nyo na ba na napakadungis na nya?
Tuturukan tayo ng holdaper sa kanto...

:lol::lol::lol::lol:


^^Always iyan ten times a day:nuts::lol::lol::lol::lol::nuts:

^^Yan yung sinasabi ni WOS na friction test. Mukhang mababawasan ang tampering services ni DC. Di na yata lalagyan ng ballast sa NEP.. :lol:




^^:lol::lol::lol::lol:
dagdagan natin...

Nalaman nyo na ba na napakadungis na nya?
Tuturukan tayo ng holdaper sa kanto...

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Ganoon na nga, pero walang ganyan sa ibang stations.... nakakalungkot isipin na naiiba iyan sa lahat...:ohno:

^^Always iyan ten times a day:nuts::lol::lol::lol::lol::nuts:


Hindi naman siguro, bakit na try muna dun?

By the way, Any update.....

Ganoon na nga, pero walang ganyan sa ibang stations.... nakakalungkot isipin na naiiba iyan sa lahat...:ohno:


^^Recto station lang naman ang pinag uusapan namin dyan. Paanu pa kaya kung nagkaroon pa ng Divisoria station? Mas madungis pa kaya?:lol:

Kahit anung dumi pa ng station na yan. Yang MRT2 pa rin ang pinaka paborito kong line sa lahat ng light rail dito sa atin.:banana::banana:

^^ Alam ko keh baket...ninja eyes sa mga checks :nuts:

may maligno yata. magpopost sana ako pero pag pinipindot ko post reply lumalabas mga images na ipinost ni han742 nung january .

eto o:

Balintawak area

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LRT2 the cleanest?? Hahaha... nakapunta ka na ba sa Recto station? :lol::lol:

Based on what I'm seeing, LRT 2 seems to be the cleanest. Yup the Recto Station is quite dirty, but if you will notice, the consistency of cleanliness of all stations of LRT 2 is way different from LRT 1 and 3. That's just my observation.

Is it just me? or did any of you also notice that the piers of the newly-installed line are higher than the typical LRT1 piers. Aside from the footbridges, what do you think is the reason behind this design?
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they go up and down through out the length of the LRT 1 extension. parang kang nag-roller coaster hehehe...

on a slightly connected note, in bangkok, the skytrain tracks have nice, well-lit pedestrian walk ways constructed below the tracks... sana ganito rin sa atin but malabo ito since our trains have tracks that go up and down and worse, some areas are at grade level pa...

Is it just me? or did any of you also notice that the piers of the newly-installed line are higher than the typical LRT1 piers. Aside from the footbridges, what do you think is the reason behind this design?
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Presence of natural light under these piers and stations.

sana ganun na lang di tulak para ang pamasahe e mura mura.. :D

^^Ang magtutulak daw libre pamasahe... :nuts::nuts:

Is it just me? or did any of you also notice that the piers of the newly-installed line are higher than the typical LRT1 piers. Aside from the footbridges, what do you think is the reason behind this design?
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^^Sinusundan lang nya ang curve ng EDSA. Kung nasa track ka NEP. Straight lang sya. Hindi puwedeng maraming up and down sa linya ng tren. Masyadong magastos sa kuryente yon.

At kaya higher sya. Para siguro di na babaguhin ang mga foot bridges.

^^ahhhh thanks. ^_^ tingin nyo kung subway ang ginawa, gaano kaya katagal bago matapos? :lol: Perhaps it's not even appropriate to use subway in the new line since Metro Manila especially Caloocan is very prone to flood.

Kahit prone to floods ang Metro Manila, basta ba sealed ang subway di papasukin ng baha yan. Nasa pagdedesign lang ng subway yan.. :D

^^yup. and budgeting has something to do with this.

NEDA seeks review of LRT 1
extension funding (http://www.malaya.com.ph/02232010/busi6.html)
BY IRMA ISIP

The National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) is seeking a review of the funding for the extension of the Light Rail Transit 1 to Cavite to determine which of three proposals offered is most advantageous to the government.

The three competing proposals are for China official development assistance, joint venture, or World Bank funding with the participation of private sector companies.

"The Light Rail Transit Authority has to make the decision," Santos said.

While the LRT 1 project was approved as far back as the Ramos administration, Santos said a repackaged project may have to again go through the NEDA approval process.

But Santos was quick to clarify that the project at that time "was found to be viable regardless how it would be implemented."

The south extension project will extend the 15-kilometer line LRT 1 by 11.7 kilometers from the Baclaran to Bacoor, Cavite, through Parañaque and Las Piñas. A total of 10.5 kilometers will be elevated and 1.2 kilometers will be at-grade.

The extension initially calls for the construction of 8 new passenger stations, with provisions for two more.

An update posted on the LRTA website said the project has an estimated cost of $1.88 billion.

The government has been working on right-of-way acquisition, relocation of informal settlers and other government approvals.

hmmm compared to Taipei Mrt,they are faster than Manila Mrt.

Yes I noticed that too and their suspension are really good except for the medium capacity trains of the Muzha Line

Is it just me? or did any of you also notice that the piers of the newly-installed line are higher than the typical LRT1 piers. Aside from the footbridges, what do you think is the reason behind this design?


The LRT-1 NEP has to be aesthetically similar to MRT-3, which accounts for their similarities in design.

NEDA seeks review of LRT 1
extension funding (http://www.malaya.com.ph/02232010/busi6.html)

Hay nako..isa lang masasabi ko dito...Puro laway nalang to.

zzz...:sly:

The LRT-1 NEP has to be aesthetically similar to MRT-3, which accounts for their similarities in design.

Though this should be the case, I just find the MRT-3 to be nowhere near aesthically pleasing. :lol: Pero kung wala ngang pera, function over form. :cheers:

^^Recto station lang naman ang pinag uusapan namin dyan. Paanu pa kaya kung nagkaroon pa ng Divisoria station? Mas madungis pa kaya?:lol:

Kahit anung dumi pa ng station na yan. Yang MRT2 pa rin ang pinaka paborito kong line sa lahat ng light rail dito sa atin.:banana::banana:


Hindi na nila i-extend ng divisoria kasi recto palang ay magulo na:nuts:


^^ahhhh thanks. ^_^ tingin nyo kung subway ang ginawa, gaano kaya katagal bago matapos? :lol: Perhaps it's not even appropriate to use subway in the new line since Metro Manila especially Caloocan is very prone to flood.

Yup, ganon nga iyon, at tsaka mahirap gumawa ng subway lalo nasa ilalim at bahain ang area, mas safe parin ang naka-elivated...

ayon sa napagtanungan ko na construction worker ng NEP. Mauuna pala gagawin ang LRT to cavite extension dun sa MRT7 pa Bulacan or sa GCT.

So next antayin nyo is the LRT to cavite.
Saka na yun MRT 7 and GCT

dapat lang po talaga mauna yung LRT to cavite after so many years ngayon lang ata matutuloy..

^^^^

ot:

nice banner cebu!!! go, go, go!!!

ayon sa napagtanungan ko na construction worker ng NEP. Mauuna pala gagawin ang LRT to cavite extension dun sa MRT7 pa Bulacan or sa GCT.

So next antayin nyo is the LRT to cavite.
Saka na yun MRT 7 and GCT

so u mean matitiawangwang ung GCT? so di uumpisahan gawin ?tama ba?

so u mean matitiawangwang ung GCT? so di uumpisahan gawin ?tama ba?

basta ganito ang naging usapan namin:

Ako: Anong susunod na gagawin pagtapos nyan, yung Grand Central terminal o yung MRT 7 na papunta ng San Jose del Monte Bulacan?

Construction Worker: Ang susunod yung sa cavite.

Ako: yung extension mula baclaran hanggang cavite?? Yun ba ang uunahin???

Construction Worker: oo
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saka ang sabi pala nung construction worker e magkadugtong pala talaga yang riles ng mrt at lrt, pero lilipat pa din ng tren.

Mas masaya siguro kung sabay na gagawin yung MRT-7 and LRT South Extension, isama na rin yung LRT-2 extension to Masinag.

So next antayin nyo is the LRT to cavite.
Saka na yun MRT 7 and GCT

so u mean matitiawangwang ung GCT? so di uumpisahan gawin ?tama ba?

Maybe for that construction worker's group matatapos na ang gawain nila sa NEP kaya isusunod na nila ang LRT SEP but that will definitely not hamper the GCT completion this year or worst case scenario next year. MRT 7 pwede pa because it is a separate project. :bash:

ISIPIN MO, if we are to assume na tatapusin muna ang LRT SEP bago itayo ang GCT, LAGPAS 1 TAON iyan bago matapos. To think na may NEDA approval na ang GCT (last year) at may pondo na rin (including SM's share) for its construction while LRT SEP has been shelved by the DOTC for the next administration to pursue. :nuts:

tama din naman na wag muna gawin ang GCT at MRT7 at unahin ang LRT SEP Cavite dahil mas malaking problema ang transportation dun. Mas masikip ang daan dun.

Mas malaki din ang population ng cavite.

Project Updates

The LRT Line 1 North Extension Project

Brief Description of the Project

The Project involves the construction of a 5.7-km. elevated line seamlessly from Monumento Station of Line 1 to North Avenue Station of Line 3, with three (3) new stations namely: Balintawak, Roosevelt and a Common Station in front of SM Annex North EDSA plus Malvar Station in Caloocan City.

Project Cost

Php6,322.84 Million - Original project cost

Php1,278.80 Million - Additional project cost

Php7,601.64 Million - Adjusted project cost (including common station)

Construction Packages
Package A: Construction of Viaduct and Pedestrian Overpasses

*Package A1 (km 15.133 to km 17.870)(Caloocan to Balintawak Area)
*Package A2 (km 17.870 to km 20.614)(Balintawak to Trinoma Area)

Package B: Construction of Stations and Stations Modifications

Package C: Electro-Mechanical Works

* EMS - 1: Signaling
* EMS - 2: Telecommunications
* EMS - 3: Automated Fare Collection System
* EMS - 4: Trackworks

Project Duration
May 2007 - April 2010 (excluding Defects and Liability Period)

* May 2007 - December 2009 (Loop closed)
* February 2010 - Start of commercial operation for Balintawak and Roosevelt Stations

Performance Accomplishment

Actual Accomplishment
(As of February 4, 2010)
Consulting Services - MetroLink Joint Venture 72.92%
Package A1(Construction of Viaduct & Pedestrian Overpasses -
Caloocan to Balintawak Area)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 96.11%
Package A2 (Balintawak to Trinoma Area)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 97.26%
Package B (Construction of Stations and Stations Modifications)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 73.71%
Package C (revised)
Awarded to Miescor/ GTC JV 81.73%
EMS - 1: (Signaling)
Awarded to Siemens-Beta and DMCI JV Preparation of preliminary
EMS - 2: (Telecommunications)
Awarded to Alcatel-Lucent Phils. 77.11%
EMS - 3: (AFCS)
Awarde to AP Trans SA 83.22%
EMS - 4: (Trackworks)
Awarded to Daxi-Frateur de Pourcq JV 94.35%
TOTAL PERCENTAGE OF THE PROJECT 80.97%

Status of the Project (as of February 4, 2010)
1. Total Project Completion %: 80.97

2. Total Fund Releases:

*Total SARO Received: P 7,551,287,713.00
*Total NCA Releases: P 4,636,932,143.61 (as of February 2010)
*Total SARO Obligation: P 7,551,287,713.0024

3. 24 Hour/ 7Day-Schedule Implemented

4. The Loop was "Physically Closed" last December 31, 2009

*Common Station at SM Annex
o Approved by the NEDA ICC-CC and confirmed by the NEDA Board on July 7, 2009
o Construction Completion is targeted on November. 30, 2010
*On the Additional Station (Malvar Station)
o Feasibility study completed

For more information

Please contact:

Engr. FEDERICO J. CANAR, Jr.
Project Manager
Tel. # +63 2 851-7338
Tel. # +63 2 853-0042 local 8888

Source: http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/proj_l1northext.htm

basta ganito ang naging usapan namin:

Ako: Anong susunod na gagawin pagtapos nyan, yung Grand Central terminal o yung MRT 7 na papunta ng San Jose del Monte Bulacan?

Construction Worker: Ang susunod yung sa cavite.

Ako: yung extension mula baclaran hanggang cavite?? Yun ba ang uunahin???

Construction Worker: oo
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saka ang sabi pala nung construction worker e magkadugtong pala talaga yang riles ng mrt at lrt, pero lilipat pa din ng tren.



Objection your honor! The question is leading.

Una, different funding and construction company, different implementing body --- so since worker lang to na arawan, i dont think he would have a substantial knowledge of the project implementation. baka taga cavite tong construction worker kaya he is projecting his desire to have this project.


Your honor, are you going to base your judgement on this conversation with a tired worker?

tama din naman na wag muna gawin ang GCT at MRT7 at unahin ang LRT SEP Cavite dahil mas malaking problema ang transportation dun. Mas masikip ang daan dun.

Mas malaki din ang population ng cavite.

Objection your honor, per NSO, mas malaki ang population ng Quezon City.

^^ You just want it to go to that area first because you happen to live there, right?

Order of priority should be...

1) LRT2 extension to Divisoria
2) LRT1 extension to Cavite
3) LRT2 extension to Masinag
4) LRT7 to Novaliches
5) LRT9 Recto to SM North via Espana and West / Quezon Avenue (???)

But my prediction of what will most likely happen...

1) LRT7 to Novaliches - because its privately backed by private venture and real estate firms. This line has already "jumped the queue" but note that this could very well end up being long delayed due to the unpredictability of such ventures (its already delayed since construction was suppose to start last month).

2) LRT1 extension to Bacoor - due to the political momentum that is similar to the NEP. The Presidential elections will ultimately decide its fate...

3) LRT2 to Masinag - though fairly easy to do the guideways and not so long, its somewhat more expensive on a per km basis and technologically more complex due to the automation of the line. Funding is the biggest challenge.

4) LRT2 to Divisoria - though the shortest and easiest to do (its only a few hundred meters from the tail track) and no doubt most important (duh!), this will most likely be the second to last since its located in old Manila, where a lot of "special interest groups" and crazy civic politicians lie. This seems to be a universal trend in "main cities" regardless of what country it is from... :ohno:

5) LRT9 - Preliminary design hasn't even begun, and could be extremely expensive. Not as important as the other lines, as its more off an enhancement / relief line to the already "under utilized" LRT2. It will also face the same issues as LRT2 to Divisoria since part of the route is in old Manila...

Objection your honor, per NSO, mas malaki ang population ng Quezon City.

he's referring to Cavite province which indeed has a larger population than QC.

ayon sa napagtanungan ko na construction worker ng NEP. Mauuna pala gagawin ang LRT to cavite extension dun sa MRT7 pa Bulacan or sa GCT.

So next antayin nyo is the LRT to cavite.
Saka na yun MRT 7 and GCT

Sinong construction worker naman???

^^ You just want it to go to that area first because you happen to live there, right?

Order of priority should be...

1) LRT2 extension to Divisoria
2) LRT1 extension to Cavite
3) LRT2 extension to Masinag
4) LRT7 to Novaliches
5) LRT9 Recto to SM North via Espana and West / Quezon Avenue (???)

But my prediction of what will most likely happen...

1) LRT7 to Novaliches - because its privately backed by private venture and real estate firms. This line has already "jumped the queue" but note that this could very well end up being long delayed due to the unpredictability of such ventures (its already delayed since construction was suppose to start last month).

2) LRT1 extension to Bacoor - due to the political momentum that is similar to the NEP. The Presidential elections will ultimately decide its fate...

3) LRT2 to Masinag - though fairly easy to do the guideways and not so long, its somewhat more expensive on a per km basis and technologically more complex due to the automation of the line. Funding is the biggest challenge.

4) LRT2 to Divisoria - though the shortest and easiest to do (its only a few hundred meters from the tail track) and no doubt most important (duh!), this will most likely be the second to last since its located in old Manila, where a lot of "special interest groups" and crazy civic politicians lie. This seems to be a universal trend in "main cities" regardless of what country it is from... :ohno:

5) LRT9 - Preliminary design hasn't even begun, and could be extremely expensive. Not as important as the other lines, as its more off an enhancement / relief line to the already "under utilized" LRT2. It will also face the same issues as LRT2 to Divisoria since part of the route is in old Manila...

Uhm yung 7 sa Tungko po at di sa Novaliches.

IMO,maganda kung sinunod na lang ng mga propnents ng 7 ang dating dadaanan supposedly ng 4,di ba???Kung magiintersect sila (7 at 3)supposedly sa Quezon Ave Station ng MRT 3 then yung gustong pumunta ng North EDSA will just walk a few meters to MRT 3.

Then they'll decide if they want to extend it to Tungko or have a new Line connected(to Novaliches)starting from SM Fairview-Robinsons)

Ang Pangarap na Novaliches Line

Teresa(SM Fairview-Robinsons)
Zabarte
Nova Proper
Forest Hills
Sta. Lucia(SM Novaliches)
Holy Cross
Sauyo
Talipapa(Sangandaan,Near North Belton)
Baesa
Balintawak(LRT 1 NEP)

Haha pangarap lang ito.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Novaliches needs a LRT(or BRT line)for that matter for it is the most congested and undeveloped part of QC-full of vendors and subdivisions.A new line,combined with some real estate efforts(like North Belton)may give new life to this part of the city.

AT DI NA KAKAILANGIN NI ANNIE ROSA SUSANO NA MAGDECLARE NG INDEPENDENCE!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Hey,ano kaya kung gumawa tayo ng sariling forum site for the MRT-LRT thread???:banana::banana::banana::banana:

hahaha.. I agree Novaliches had one of the most congested areas in Metro Manila... eh parang wala pang trapik sa EDSA eh grabe na trapik sa Novaliches..

dapat unahin yung GCT and MRT7 to bulacan..para magkaroon dn nman ng infrastructure developments yung lugar like IT.Parks... mejo kulang pa sa buildings and northern part of qc at bulacan.. isa pa,, madaming students from bulacan n nag.aaral sa qc or manila.. :cheers:
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pero, parehas importante yung cavite and bulacan..so if pwede nila pagsabayin' y not?!! :cheers: :cheers:

^^ You just want it to go to that area first because you happen to live there, right?



Wow, don't we all have the same motive? Then, why bring it up, brilliant person. but if you are pertaining to me "LIVING" in that area "NOW." Well, sorry to disappoint you, but no. CUBAO ako. Isang tumbling lang LRT at MRT na. Anyway, as i have said cut the MRT 7 to fairview then use the budget to extend some existing LRT projects.

^^^^

imo all these projects pwede mag-sabay-sabay kasi di naman ang gobyerno ang magpopondo dito initially. lahat ng malalaking project usually ay private sector funding through different schemes tulad ng build-operate-transfer (bot). basta may "sovereign guarantee" maraming investors ang willing na maglagay ng capital dahil kahit na anong mangyari di sila malulugi dahil ang magiging guarantor nila ang gobyerno ng pilipinas.

as for the gct, imo dahil may contribution ang sm jan malamang sa hindi ay tumayo yang gct asap. hindi papasok ang sm, na isang private entity, sa isang venture na matetengga lang ang ilang daang milyong pisong ipinuhunan nila.

or i could be wrong.

Hi guys!

I witnessed yesterday a "simulation test run" for the LRT1 - NEP project.

It was done past 9AM yesterday. I was at the southbound platform area when a 3G train went into the North Avenue station from the NEP project and took the northbound rail :)

All MRT3 trains at that time were stopped on the line kaya madaming southbound passengers sa platform area.

The test train stopped sa North Avenue station for about 10 minutes. Passengers inside the 3G train were foreigners and some rail officials (in barong) and some tech guys. After a few open-close of doors and train restart, the people inside shook each others hands. Parang successful yung simulation test. Then the train left going towards the NEP area. Then nag.resume na regular operations ng MRT3..

I was not able to get pictures since di ako makasingit. Besides, nagulat ako sa nakita ko na may 3G train sa loob ng MRT3 tracks :) hehe!

^^

Wow.

Hope the South extension finally pushes through.

sana nga matuloy ang south extension project dahil a lot of people will benefit from this :)

Hi guys!

I witnessed yesterday a "simulation test run" for the LRT1 - NEP project.

It was done past 9AM yesterday. I was at the southbound platform area when a 3G train went into the North Avenue station from the NEP project and took the northbound rail :)

All MRT3 trains at that time were stopped on the line kaya madaming southbound passengers sa platform area.

The test train stopped sa North Avenue station for about 10 minutes. Passengers inside the 3G train were foreigners and some rail officials (in barong) and some tech guys. After a few open-close of doors and train restart, the people inside shook each others hands. Parang successful yung simulation test. Then the train left going towards the NEP area. Then nag.resume na regular operations ng MRT3..

I was not able to get pictures since di ako makasingit. Besides, nagulat ako sa nakita ko na may 3G train sa loob ng MRT3 tracks :) hehe!
See, that's how compatible to two rail systems are :cheers: What a sight. Sana may magsurface na pic.

May nag.take ng pictures.. taga MRT3. He has a Canon EOS.

Wala ako dalang camera (phone cam meron ako pero di makasingit) that time since mag.MRT ako (read: mahirap magdala sa siksikan) :(

it was also announced in the station that there is an ongoing simulation test kaya they said "sorry for the inconvenience" :) ok lang yun dahil once the NEP is running, malaking ginhawa na yun for the commuters coming from the north.

Based on what I'm seeing, LRT 2 seems to be the cleanest. Yup the Recto Station is quite dirty, but if you will notice, the consistency of cleanliness of all stations of LRT 2 is way different from LRT 1 and 3. That's just my observation.

may lugar ba sa Recto na hindi madumi? :lol:

Hi guys!

I witnessed yesterday a "simulation test run" for the LRT1 - NEP project.

It was done past 9AM yesterday. I was at the southbound platform area when a 3G train went into the North Avenue station from the NEP project and took the northbound rail :)

All MRT3 trains at that time were stopped on the line kaya madaming southbound passengers sa platform area.

The test train stopped sa North Avenue station for about 10 minutes. Passengers inside the 3G train were foreigners and some rail officials (in barong) and some tech guys. After a few open-close of doors and train restart, the people inside shook each others hands. Parang successful yung simulation test. Then the train left going towards the NEP area. Then nag.resume na regular operations ng MRT3..

I was not able to get pictures since di ako makasingit. Besides, nagulat ako sa nakita ko na may 3G train sa loob ng MRT3 tracks :) hehe!

tinutulak pa din ba? hindi pa electrified yun tracks

tinutulak pa din ba? hindi pa electrified yun tracks

i think electrified na yung track (pinasok na kse yung train sa loob ng MRT3 station).. di naman mabilis yung speed ng 3G train when it stopped sa North Avenue station ng MRT3. dun nag.pwesto sa northbound rail.. madami kse passengers sa southbound platform area.

then while it was there, power inside the train was running. it opened its door tapos some foreigners who were at the northbound platform pumasok sa loob ng train, along with some rail officials (in barong). then the door closed. then a few seconds after, they opened the door ulit..

then they cut the power (parang restart).. nung nag.power on uli, the people inside the train shook hands.. then the train left the station towards the NEP project area na..

^^ kung electrified na sya, saan galing yung power? wala pa namang overhead power lines sa NEP di ba?

btw, i took some pics of NEP from SM to Munoz station... kaso baka bukas ko pa ma-upload kasi wala pa akong data cable... :)

imo all these projects pwede mag-sabay-sabay kasi di naman ang gobyerno ang magpopondo dito initially. lahat ng malalaking project usually ay private sector funding through different schemes tulad ng build-operate-transfer (bot). basta may "sovereign guarantee" maraming investors ang willing na maglagay ng capital dahil kahit na anong mangyari di sila malulugi dahil ang magiging guarantor nila ang gobyerno ng pilipinas.

as for the gct, imo dahil may contribution ang sm jan malamang sa hindi ay tumayo yang gct asap. hindi papasok ang sm, na isang private entity, sa isang venture na matetengga lang ang ilang daang milyong pisong ipinuhunan nila.

or i could be wrong.

^^tama ka, siguro may plans na, marami lang mga humaharang..:ohno:

kung ung NEP nga wala pang isang taon magiging operational na, panu pa kaya kung extension lang ng Purple line at Cavite Extension ang gagawin?

^^ kung electrified na sya, saan galing yung power? wala pa namang overhead power lines sa NEP di ba?

btw, i took some pics of NEP from SM to Munoz station... kaso baka bukas ko pa ma-upload kasi wala pa akong data cable... :)


^^ pwedeng tinulak muna ng isang train car ung 3g train sa North Station then kinonecta na ung yellow thingy sa taas ng train sa overhead power line ng MRT...:D

^^ kung electrified na sya, saan galing yung power? wala pa namang overhead power lines sa NEP di ba?

btw, i took some pics of NEP from SM to Munoz station... kaso baka bukas ko pa ma-upload kasi wala pa akong data cable... :)

that i dont have an idea. the lights inside the train is on, the doors open & closes, they turned-off the lights inside the train.. they turned it on again. then people inside shook hands.. then the train left towards the NEP area.

kung tulak lang yun in-and-out of the North Avenue station ng MRT3, PWEDE :-) but the BIG question is, pano nila na.power-on yun lights sa loob ng train. besides, the MRT3 line is electrified - would there be a possibility na eto yung ginamit nila?

when they announced that there is an "ongoing simulation test" - what does this mean?

btw, a few seconds after the 3G train left. dumating na yung MRT3 train galing Quezon Avenue station.. the line has been stopped due to the "simulation test". Kaya ang daming tao sa southbound platforms..

^^ pwedeng tinulak muna ng isang train car ung 3g train sa North Station then kinonecta na ung yellow thingy sa taas ng train sa overhead power line ng MRT...:D

big possibility kse may lights nga sa loob ng 3G train and merong naka.stop na MRT3 train from Quezon Avenue.. :)

Project Updates

The LRT Line 1 North Extension Project

Brief Description of the Project

The Project involves the construction of a 5.7-km. elevated line seamlessly from Monumento Station of Line 1 to North Avenue Station of Line 3, with three (3) new stations namely: Balintawak, Roosevelt and a Common Station in front of SM Annex North EDSA plus Malvar Station in Caloocan City.

Project Cost

Php6,322.84 Million - Original project cost

Php1,278.80 Million - Additional project cost

Php7,601.64 Million - Adjusted project cost (including common station)

Construction Packages
Package A: Construction of Viaduct and Pedestrian Overpasses

*Package A1 (km 15.133 to km 17.870)(Caloocan to Balintawak Area)
*Package A2 (km 17.870 to km 20.614)(Balintawak to Trinoma Area)

Package B: Construction of Stations and Stations Modifications

Package C: Electro-Mechanical Works

* EMS - 1: Signaling
* EMS - 2: Telecommunications
* EMS - 3: Automated Fare Collection System
* EMS - 4: Trackworks

Project Duration
May 2007 - April 2010 (excluding Defects and Liability Period)

* May 2007 - December 2009 (Loop closed)
* February 2010 - Start of commercial operation for Balintawak and Roosevelt Stations

Performance Accomplishment

Actual Accomplishment
(As of February 4, 2010)
Consulting Services - MetroLink Joint Venture 72.92%
Package A1(Construction of Viaduct & Pedestrian Overpasses -
Caloocan to Balintawak Area)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 96.11%
Package A2 (Balintawak to Trinoma Area)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 97.26%
Package B (Construction of Stations and Stations Modifications)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 73.71%
Package C (revised)
Awarded to Miescor/ GTC JV 81.73%
EMS - 1: (Signaling)
Awarded to Siemens-Beta and DMCI JV Preparation of preliminary
EMS - 2: (Telecommunications)
Awarded to Alcatel-Lucent Phils. 77.11%
EMS - 3: (AFCS)
Awarde to AP Trans SA 83.22%
EMS - 4: (Trackworks)
Awarded to Daxi-Frateur de Pourcq JV 94.35%
TOTAL PERCENTAGE OF THE PROJECT 80.97%

Status of the Project (as of February 4, 2010)
1. Total Project Completion %: 80.97

2. Total Fund Releases:

*Total SARO Received: P 7,551,287,713.00
*Total NCA Releases: P 4,636,932,143.61 (as of February 2010)
*Total SARO Obligation: P 7,551,287,713.0024

3. 24 Hour/ 7Day-Schedule Implemented

4. The Loop was "Physically Closed" last December 31, 2009

*Common Station at SM Annex
o Approved by the NEDA ICC-CC and confirmed by the NEDA Board on July 7, 2009
o Construction Completion is targeted on November. 30, 2010
*On the Additional Station (Malvar Station)
o Feasibility study completed

For more information

Please contact:

Engr. FEDERICO J. CANAR, Jr.
Project Manager
Tel. # +63 2 851-7338
Tel. # +63 2 853-0042 local 8888

Source: http://www.lrta.gov.ph/projects/proj_l1northext.htm

^^ Total Percentage ng Project 80%? Parang matatapos na ah... Pero Walang pang GCT eh, feeling ko parang mali ata toh ah? :nuts:

^ NEP nga NEP ayun nasa taas. iba pa yun GCT.

^ NEP nga NEP ayun nasa taas. iba pa yun GCT.

^^

Package B (Construction of Stations and Stations Modifications)
Awarded to DMFB - Joint Venture 73.71%

this is where GCT falls... overall, 80.97% complete na... pero since wala pa yung GCT at yung Malvar station, plus renovation of Monumento station (take note of 'station modifications'), yung natitirang almost 11% na hindi pa natatapos ay dun kasama yun... pati na rin yung electro-mechanical works...

so, kahit 81% complete na, matagal pa rin yan..

Partial opening of LRT 1 extension pushed back; more tests required

By Paolo Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:03:00 02/24/2010

MANILA, Philippines--The partial opening of the P7-billion Light Rail Transit (LRT) line 1 extension has been pushed back to the second week of March due to the need for more tests to ensure public safety once commercial operations begin.

Dubbed as the “Closing the Loop” project to connect LRT 1 to Edsa’s Metro Rail Transit (MRT) system, the partial opening was originally set for the end of this month.

The project involves the construction of a 5.4-kilometer line and will feature three new stations: Balintawak, Roosevelt and North stations.

Only the Balintawak and Roosevelt stations are being eyed for the partial opening, while the North station, which the LRT will share with the MRT line, will be opened by the second quarter of this year.

“All the structures are complete and the trains can already pass through the tracks,” LRT Authority (LRTA) Administrator Melquiades Robles said in an interview.

“But before commercial operations can begin, we need to conduct more test runs, just to make sure everything is safe,” he told the Inquirer.

“It should take about another two weeks, but who knows? It could be sooner than that,” he added.

Robles said President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo would be visiting the train line today to inspect the progress made on the project, which is one of the administration’s top priorities.

The president will be riding from the MRT’s Santolan station on Edsa to the end of the train line, the North Avenue station.

From there, she will transfer to an LRT train, which will bring her to the new Balintawak station.

Once operational, Robles said the extension could boost the number of people riding the LRT line by as much as 100,000 a day.

LRT 1 ferries an average of half a million people daily.

He said people from areas north of Metro Manila using the Northern Luzon Expressway can use the LRT to get to Baclaran, or connect to the MRT and get to Makati, in less than 30 minutes.

Robles said President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo would be visiting the train line today to inspect the progress made on the project, which is one of the administration’s top priorities.

The president will be riding from the MRT’s Santolan station on Edsa to the end of the train line, the North Avenue station.

From there, she will transfer to an LRT train, which will bring her to the new Balintawak station.

Can't wait for RTVM's coverage on Youtube! :cheers:

wala bang test yang LRT na puno ng passengers? Pwede sana tayo sumakay for that test.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k132/nico216/1-4.jpg

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k132/nico216/1-4.jpg

So guys what do you think?

Na-spoil ba ang Monumento Circle?
Di ba maraming naging agaisnt dito?

Mayroon ding naging other design nito, tulad ng mismong palilibutan ang buong Circle isa for Northbound, isa for Southbound.

What do you think guys kung ano ang mas magandang design?
Yung tulad sa picture o yung palilibutan?

Kung palibot ba siya, is it possible? Kakayanin ba?

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k132/nico216/1-4.jpg

They did a good job on the curve alignment.

^^I think it is well made, it didn't obstruct anything at this vantage point.





:horse:

^^I think it is well made, it didn't obstruct anything at this vantage point.





:horse:


agree, ang ganda nga talaga.

^^The Monumento photo above looks classic (as per camera quality) but the shot is really great! Really love this curve. :cheers:

^^parang kuha lang sa google earth. :lol:

Pardon for not reading back through the older posts...

With the successful test run of LRT 3G to the northbound side of Trinoma station, they probably don't see the urgent need to construct the GCT. I'm guessing that they can make Trinoma southbound platform exclusive to MRT3, and Trinoma northbound platform exclusive to LRT 1.

LRT 1 then takes over the gate/revenue system of the Trinoma northbound platform. MRT3 trains will switch tracks between q.ave and Trinoma. Just like in Changi MRT or VivoCity in Singapore, where they almost always use only one side of the station.

I just don't know though the implications for the 3-5 minutes safety headway of MRT3.

But, if the train floors are of the same height anyway (are they?), and if electrical systems are compatible, why stop there, when they can just merge the two operationally? Thus no GCT for the moment. Thus those engineers may be soon springing us a pleasant surprise - full integration. Masaya 'to!

Partial opening of LRT 1 extension pushed back; more tests required

By Paolo Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:03:00 02/24/2010

...Robles said President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo would be visiting the train line today to inspect the progress made on the project, which is one of the administration’s top priorities.

The president will be riding from the MRT’s Santolan station on Edsa to the end of the train line, the North Avenue station.

From there, she will transfer to an LRT train, which will bring her to the new Balintawak station.


Yes, this will happen today. As reported in UKG, after the celebration at the People Power Monument, PGMA will proceed to Santolan MRT3 Station and take a northbound train.

Then will alight at the North Avenue station to board a train bound for Balintawak.

Heads up dun sa mag.MRT.. for sure, there will be delays and plenty of people at the stations due to the delays.

maganda naman tignan ngayon yung monumento circle kahit may lrt na..

I think the issue about the alignment and the Monumento was regarding the initial proposal for MRT 3 to be extended, eventually connecting not just to LRT1 but to the future Northrail which was further on along C4. From the photo, Monumento was not affected because of LRT1 curving towards North Avenue. If the LRT/MRT will be connected to the future Northrail (when that future is, is still uncertain) then they still have to contend with what will be done to Monumento.

Pardon for not reading back through the older posts...

With the successful test run of LRT 3G to the northbound side of Trinoma station, they probably don't see the urgent need to construct the GCT. I'm guessing that they can make Trinoma southbound platform exclusive to MRT3, and Trinoma northbound platform exclusive to LRT 1.

LRT 1 then takes over the gate/revenue system of the Trinoma northbound platform. MRT3 trains will switch tracks between q.ave and Trinoma. Just like in Changi MRT or VivoCity in Singapore, where they almost always use only one side of the station.

I just don't know though the implications for the 3-5 minutes safety headway of MRT3.

But, if the train floors are of the same height anyway (are they?), and if electrical systems are compatible, why stop there, when they can just merge the two operationally? Thus no GCT for the moment. Thus those engineers may be soon springing us a pleasant surprise - full integration. Masaya 'to!

Oo nga naman.:]

I think the issue about the alignment and the Monumento was regarding the initial proposal for MRT 3 to be extended, eventually connecting not just to LRT1 but to the future Northrail which was further on along C4. From the photo, Monumento was not affected because of LRT1 curving towards North Avenue. If the LRT/MRT will be connected to the future Northrail (when that future is, is still uncertain) then they still have to contend with what will be done to Monumento.

Paano yun???Like yung train ng north rail pwedeng dumaan sa tracks ng lrt and vice versa???:nuts::nuts::nuts:

about the Monumento curve: looks good.. hindi naman nasira ang view ng Monumento circle eh... :)

about the trains: imo, compatiblity is not an issue, since maaring pwede nga paandarin ang LRT1 traisn sa MRT3 tracks, and vice versa...

imo, the reason why they opted not to fully integrate the two lines and make a seamless transportation is because of the train's capacity to run long and carry a very large volume of passengers.. imagine an LRT1 train running from Baclaran to Taft station...

plus, wala pang single ticket system para sa lahat ng LRT/MRT lines...

sorry for the quality... camphone lang ginamit ko eh...

from SM North, we can see a machine on the tracks...hindi pa gumagalaw yan...
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6130/image147l.jpg


then, umandar na sya... approaching Roosevelt station..
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9701/image149o.jpg
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/7051/image150.jpg


from afar, Roosevelt station can be seen, with its roof that's looks quite like that of an MRT2 station...
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9261/image148f.jpg

a closer look shows na hindi pa tapos ang roof...
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3366/image151b.jpg


and this is how the exterior of the station looks like..
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9871/image152f.jpg

viewede form another vantage point...
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9424/image153i.jpg


and here's the station as seen from the footbridge... notice how high the line is in this area...
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4338/image154w.jpg

Oo nga naman.:]

Paano yun???Like yung train ng north rail pwedeng dumaan sa tracks ng lrt and vice versa???:nuts::nuts::nuts:

The original plan was for the MRT line to extend to Monumento and all the way to Northrail. It was conceptualized as a physical connection but the LRT/MRT trains were not intended to use Northrail tracks (and vice versa).:lol:

PGMA rides MRT-LRT loop train in EDSA Day “dry run”
http://pia-misorocccam.blogspot.com/2010/02/pia-dispatch-25-february-2010.html

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo will lead a flag-raising on Feb.25 at the People Power Monument at EDSA in Quezon City to commemorate the 24th year of the 1986 EDSA Revolution.

She will also observe EDSA day with two other events: test ride of the near-complete LRT-MRT loop project also in Quezon City and the launch in Makati of the large taxpayers campaign of the Bureau of Internal Revenue which will feature the Billionaires Club awards to four biggest corporate taxpayers in the country.

Vice President Noli de Castro and several cabinet members will join her in the MRT-LRT dry run.

As of December 2009, physical interconnection of the MRT3-LRT1 loop has been completed although the 5.7 kilometer stretch of the LRT 1 North Extension project has been 80.9% complete.

The project, which costs about P7.5 billion has four stations: Monumento, Balintawak and Roosevelt including the common one at North Avenue. This will close the EDSA Loop as this would be connected to the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Line 3 in North Avenue Station. The Balintawak station will provide modal interchange for bus and jeepney services entering Metro Manila from the north via the North Luzon Expressway.

The project also involved the construction of a P777-million Grand Central Terminal, which will connect the existing MRT Line 3 to the future lines as MRT 7.

LRT Line 1 currently runs from Baclaran in Pasay City to Monumento in Caloocan City. Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Line 3 runs from the intersection of Edsa and Taft Avenue in Pasay City up to the North Avenue in Quezon City.

The integrated terminal provides for seamless rail operation of Lines 1 and 3. Upon completion, the LRT 1 and the loop is expected to serve about 800,000 to one million passengers.

The original plan was for the MRT line to extend to Monumento and all the way to Northrail. It was conceptualized as a physical connection but the LRT/MRT trains were not intended to use Northrail tracks (and vice versa).:lol:

ahh.kala ko naman ganun.astigin 'pag nangyari yun hahahaha.

and then let's say supposedly mrt 3 will be extended going to north rail,kasya ba sya dun sa road???(forgot na the name ehh)

^^

dun sa samson road kasya yun:lol::lol: baka ang GCT sana dun sa may northrail....

^^

dun sa samson road kasya yun:lol::lol: baka ang GCT sana dun sa may northrail....

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8892/63819439.jpg

like this????

PGMA rides MRT-LRT loop train in EDSA Day “dry run”
http://pia-misorocccam.blogspot.com/2010/02/pia-dispatch-25-february-2010.html

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo will lead a flag-raising on Feb.25 at the People Power Monument at EDSA in Quezon City to commemorate the 24th year of the 1986 EDSA Revolution.

She will also observe EDSA day with two other events: test ride of the near-complete LRT-MRT loop project also in Quezon City and the launch in Makati of the large taxpayers campaign of the Bureau of Internal Revenue which will feature the Billionaires Club awards to four biggest corporate taxpayers in the country.

Vice President Noli de Castro and several cabinet members will join her in the MRT-LRT dry run.

As of December 2009, physical interconnection of the MRT3-LRT1 loop has been completed although the 5.7 kilometer stretch of the LRT 1 North Extension project has been 80.9% complete.

The project, which costs about P7.5 billion has four stations: Monumento, Balintawak and Roosevelt including the common one at North Avenue. This will close the EDSA Loop as this would be connected to the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Line 3 in North Avenue Station. The Balintawak station will provide modal interchange for bus and jeepney services entering Metro Manila from the north via the North Luzon Expressway.

The project also involved the construction of a P777-million Grand Central Terminal, which will connect the existing MRT Line 3 to the future lines as MRT 7.

LRT Line 1 currently runs from Baclaran in Pasay City to Monumento in Caloocan City. Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Line 3 runs from the intersection of Edsa and Taft Avenue in Pasay City up to the North Avenue in Quezon City.

The integrated terminal provides for seamless rail operation of Lines 1 and 3. Upon completion, the LRT 1 and the loop is expected to serve about 800,000 to one million passengers.

Wow, any photos?

Seamless rail travel in Metro now possible

President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo today led a ground-breaking commuter train ride along the 39-kilometer MRT-LRT loop project to introduce the riding public to interconnected travel around Metro Manila.

After leading the commemoration of the 24th anniversary of the February 1986 People Power Revolution at EDSA, the President rode the elevated rail from the Santolan Station of the Metro Rail transit to the Trinoma station and then followed the new route to Monumento. The P6.3 billion Trinoma-Monumento line which is now nearing completion, closes the rail loop around Metro Manila.

From Monumento, the President continued the ride to Pasay City using the LRT 1 line and back to Santolan aboard the MRT.

The President said the loop project fulfills one part of her 10-point agenda called the BEAT THE ODDS which she said will be her legacy of accomplishments to the Filipino people.

Citing the significance of the MRT-LRT interconnecton, the President said the project “binds the metropolis as never before so people can travel faster, cheaper and safer in any part of the metropolis to another.”

“This is the fastest, cheapest and safest mode of transportation for the ordinary Filipino,” she said. “This is katas ng VAT(value added tax).”

Aboard the train coach LRTA general manager Mel Robles briefed the Presidential party, which included Vice President Noli de Castro, Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita, and Transportation Secretary Leandro Mendoza, on the loop project.

Mendoza said the “the loop project” will be opened to the commuting public on March 15 and by June, a single ticket for the MRT and LRT will be introduced.

The whole loop is 39 kilometers long with 112 trains and 148 coaches.

The project involved the construction of a 5.71- kilometer elevated line seamlessly from Monumento Station of Line 1 to North Avenue Station of Line 3.

The scope of work included civil and architectural works—construction of a viaduct and three new stations—Balintawak, Roosevelt and the central station.

The Balintawak station will provide modal interchange for bus and jeepney services entering Metro Manila from the north via the North Luzon Expressway.

The project also involved the construction of a P777-million Grand Central Terminal, which will connect the existing MRT Line 3 to future lines such as MRT 7.

LRT Line 1 currently runs from Baclaran in Pasay City to Monumento in Caloocan City. Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Line 3 runs from the intersection of Edsa and Taft Avenue in Pasay City up to the North Avenue in Quezon City.

Upon completion, the loop is expected to serve about 1.3 million passengers daily compared to 400,000 before the Arroyo administration embarked on the project.

http://www.news.ops.gov.ph/today.htm#Seamless

and we now have a video of that...:banana:

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i wonder why their videos aren't HD yet...:D