Wanch, Indonesia is yet to build one as well... But correct me if I'm wrong.

Thats why I said its yet to be constructed. For now, Jakarta doesn't have rapid transit only commuter rail and BRT. They been planning monorail or MRT but lines haven't been constructed.

i see.. pero sa atin sana wag na 3 car trains pls lang. sikip kasi eh, tpos hndi mamaximize ung platform, magkakaroon ng sikisikan papasok at papalabas ng train.

3 car is the initial plan but it can be extended.

Another posibility of an initial 3 car config on MRT-7 would be similar to that of Copenhagen Metro.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42085000/jpg/_42085988_newmetro416.jpg

http://crawfurd.dk/illu/weekly/metro3606.jpg

This metro also has a 3 car config but is more a medium capacity system. This train itself look clean and is fully automated. But it would be impractical to use this train on the MRT-7. I'm sure there will be a high volume of commuters in this line especially those residing within UP, Fairview and San Jose Del Monte and such volume would exceed the train's capacity.

Can you people stay on topic? This is the MRT/LRT thread.

Yes, please stay on topic.

Another posibility of an initial 3 car config on
This metro also has a 3 car config but is more a medium capacity system. This train itself look clean and is fully automated. But it would be impractical to use this train on the MRT-7. I'm sure there will be a high volume of commuters in this line especially those residing within UP, Fairview and San Jose Del Monte and such volume would exceed the train's capacity.

I believe that is the case with MRT3. It seems to have a 3 car configuration- therefore a medium capacity. I saw one of the trains during 5pm in EDSA and they are PACKED:gaah:, with everyone standing inside. I've never seen a train that packed before .I guess the line needs to be upgraded badly into a HEAVY Rail system like MRT2. But how can we upgrade the trains and the stations when they are almost out of space? :ohno:

maybe longer trains is a solution

Another posibility of an initial 3 car config on MRT-7 would be similar to that of Copenhagen Metro.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42085000/jpg/_42085988_newmetro416.jpg

http://crawfurd.dk/illu/weekly/metro3606.jpg

This metro also has a 3 car config but is more a medium capacity system. This train itself look clean and is fully automated. But it would be impractical to use this train on the MRT-7. I'm sure there will be a high volume of commuters in this line especially those residing within UP, Fairview and San Jose Del Monte and such volume would exceed the train's capacity.

Hmm... Mga ilan ba ang passenger traffic dito?

I'm also envisioning a Stockholms Tunnelbanna-style rails but I'm just dreaming.

Maganda din palang gumawa ang Bombardier ng trains ah... Pero mas mahal din ba sila?

TOTOO BA NA EARLY NEXT YEAR PA CCMULAN ANG CONSTRUCTION NG MRT7??

I hope not, some said 3Q 2010 but reports after DMCI got the contract that they moved it to next year for a 2 1/2 year completion. If that is the case, the GCT will also be delayed if ever the station requires the CO-OP of the three manager of trains (ULC, LRTA and MRTC)

Automated rails would be good since the computer can analyze when to dispatch trains to provide a smooth ride. but I wonder can they analyze when will they close the doors? since the operators of LRT are signaled by guards to close the door to prevent passengers from missing their station. I was amazed with HK's MRT since during peak hours, MTR trains runs from station to station (almost every time we stop, there is a train on the other platform or if not, we meet them halfway) that's like having 1 train per station. and it is always almost jam packed (even at 8 car config).

Kung di naman monorails, OK din ba ang trams?

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Natatrapik din ang trams kaya hinde pwede :nuts:

the main goal is to decrease traffic tapos maglalagay ka ng tram edi dagdag traffic rin yun ..mas prone rin sa accidents ang trams

^^ i guess trains are the best way to decongest cities. For example, Singapore's extensive MRT system is the biggest type of transport, along with BRT. There is barely any congestion there, even in rush hours. I hope that we could keep expanding our MRT systems all around the country :okay: (even though it seems to be an EPIC task)

Yes, please stay on topic.

Can you people stay on topic? This is the MRT/LRT thread.

Third warning: If we keep straying off topic, Sir Kiretoce will bang on our doors.

^^ i guess trains are the best way to decongest cities. For example, Singapore's extensive MRT system is the biggest type of transport, along with BRT. There is barely any congestion there, even in rush hours. I hope that we could keep expanding our MRT systems all around the country :okay: (even though it seems to be an EPIC task)

Hmm... Do they also impose heavy taxes on car owning as well?

Nakaisip lang kasi ako ng tram or monorail if ever namamahalan talaga tayo sa installation ng MRT. Metro Cebu can be a good test site for these rail transport if ever.

maybe longer trains is a solution

Rehab the units, buy better cars, and furnish the stations.

Honestly, Monday rush hour is a nightmare. I can almost see people spilling out of the platform in North Avenue. Prolly the continuation of the LRT-MRT link could somehow lower that.

As for platforms, don't they also have a relation with the number of cars to be installed?

OT: I had a copy of the old Philippine yearbook ca. 1981 published by the Fookien Times that showcased LRT and the then managing director of the LRTA. The cars even had the "orange" tinge of the era.

Could this be the reason why the LRT changed its color to Yellow after the People Power revolution?

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3221/lrt2.jpg

This was the original color of the two-car yellow line trains

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4267/lrt1.jpg

Another one

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3221/lrt2.jpg

This was the original color of the two-car yellow line trains

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4267/lrt1.jpg

Another one

I missed this one. Does someone sell scale models of our very own LRT or something near to it? I'd want to have one.

I believe that is the case with MRT3. It seems to have a 3 car configuration- therefore a medium capacity. I saw one of the trains during 5pm in EDSA and they are PACKED:gaah:, with everyone standing inside. I've never seen a train that packed before .I guess the line needs to be upgraded badly into a HEAVY Rail system like MRT2. But how can we upgrade the trains and the stations when they are almost out of space? :ohno:

It is light rail despite having 3 trams together. The cars used are trams and not real metro cars.

Again, the MRT-3 is one of the worst planned metro systems ever and as a result, major overcrowding happens especially during rush hour.

And as I said before, why would they plan a light rail system running on a major thoroughfare when a heavy rail full metro could have been planned instead?

Unfortunately, the gap between the tracks, stations, etc cannot handle heavy rail cars because the standard metro would be at least 3 metres in width. The MRT-3 is around 2.5 metres in width.

The only exception of full metros running the 2.5 metres width would be those of Paris, Montreal or Mexico City but they are mostly rubber tired and run on the third rail. The MRT-3 uses steel.

^^ i guess trains are the best way to decongest cities. For example, Singapore's extensive MRT system is the biggest type of transport, along with BRT. There is barely any congestion there, even in rush hours. I hope that we could keep expanding our MRT systems all around the country :okay: (even though it seems to be an EPIC task)

HK's MTR is more extensive than SG's MRT.

maybe longer trains is a solution

Yes as in longer trains, not trams.

^^ but with longer trains, we must have larger train stations. It will be ridiculously expensive and difficult to enlarge train station in MRT3 :ohno:

^^ i guess trains are the best way to decongest cities. For example, Singapore's extensive MRT system is the biggest type of transport, along with BRT. There is barely any congestion there, even in rush hours. I hope that we could keep expanding our MRT systems all around the country :okay: (even though it seems to be an EPIC task)

BRT and LRT is the best solution for metro Manila. They do need to get rid of all public buses and jeepney all together and just allow these jeeps in smaller cities and provinces. the tricycles should be replaced with etric or ejeep in smaller communities not being served by publc transports in major thoroughfares like EDSA, Taft, Roxas Blvd, Quezon Avenue and all those major or main avenues.

It is light rail despite having 3 trams together. The cars used are trams and not real metro cars.

Again, the MRT-3 is one of the worst planned metro systems ever and as a result, major overcrowding happens especially during rush hour.

And as I said before, why would they plan a light rail system running on a major thoroughfare when a heavy rail full metro could have been planned instead?

The consequence of their poor planning were bottlenecks in several parts of EDSA, most notably Taft Avenue Station at Pasay Rotunda. Not only that this area is of high pedestrian traffic which warrants a bigger terminal (Taft Avenue Station is considered a hub due to LRT-1 and MRT-3 connection plus other PUVs), but also EDSA warrants a wider road for north bound lane.

EDSA-Pasay segment is already a victim of poor planning, needless to say MRT-3 in Pasay may have made things worse for the motorists and commuters, instead of comfort.

What they should have done for Pasay segment was to have it elevated all the way to Pasay Rotunda.

The consequence of their poor planning were bottlenecks in several parts of EDSA, most notably Taft Avenue Station at Pasay Rotunda. Not only that this area is of high pedestrian traffic which warrants a bigger terminal (Taft Avenue Station is considered a hub due to LRT-1 and MRT-3 connection plus other PUVs), but also EDSA warrants a wider road for north bound lane.

EDSA-Pasay segment is already a victim of poor planning, needless to say MRT-3 in Pasay may have made things worse for the motorists and commuters, instead of comfort.

What they should have done for Pasay segment was to have it elevated all the way to Pasay Rotunda.

Sinabi mo. Ganong ka T nagplano na mag deviate sa original design itong Pasay MRT Station.

BRT and LRT is the best solution for metro Manila. They do need to get rid of all public buses and jeepney all together and just allow these jeeps in smaller cities and provinces. the tricycles should be replaced with etric or ejeep in smaller communities not being served by publc transports in major thoroughfares like EDSA, Taft, Roxas Blvd, Quezon Avenue and all those major or main avenues.

LRT is the worst solution for Metro Manila. The volume of commuters is high. Light rail cannot handle such volume.

The best solution is the current light rail lines should be upgraded to full metro and that future metro lines must be heavy rail.

At least they did it right with the yellow and purple line.

^^ but with longer trains, we must have larger train stations. It will be ridiculously expensive and difficult to enlarge train station in MRT3 :ohno:

The yellow line 3-G trains are already long and its current station can handle it. I'm sure the current MRT stations can handle such trains.

The consequence of their poor planning were bottlenecks in several parts of EDSA, most notably Taft Avenue Station at Pasay Rotunda. Not only that this area is of high pedestrian traffic which warrants a bigger terminal (Taft Avenue Station is considered a hub due to LRT-1 and MRT-3 connection plus other PUVs), but also EDSA warrants a wider road for north bound lane.

EDSA-Pasay segment is already a victim of poor planning, needless to say MRT-3 in Pasay may have made things worse for the motorists and commuters, instead of comfort.

What they should have done for Pasay segment was to have it elevated all the way to Pasay Rotunda.

The authorities should have planned it like what they are doing with SM North.

^^ but with longer trains, we must have larger train stations. It will be ridiculously expensive and difficult to enlarge train station in MRT3 :ohno:

MRT3's original plan was 4-car trams ..with that, i can say, they can handle 4-car trains

Sinabi mo. Ganong ka T nagplano na mag deviate sa original design itong Pasay MRT Station.


bro, i don't thing "T" sila... madami lang "other" considerations, like... alam mo na yun.. hahaha...

most of our major infra projects are like this e. a lot of them are well planned at the start but slowly deteriorates during implementation.

i for one do not believe that the MRT segment in pasay was built at grade level due to stupidity. i dare say that nobody is that stupid. :)

LRT is the worst solution for Metro Manila. The volume of commuters is high. Light rail cannot handle such volume.

The best solution is the current light rail lines should be upgraded to full metro and that future metro lines must be heavy rail.

At least they did it right with the yellow and purple line.

Hi sino po ba yung nakielam sa design ng MRT 3? Did politics get in the way?

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3221/lrt2.jpg

This was the original color of the two-car yellow line trains

http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4267/lrt1.jpg

Another one

I prefer this colour. It looks more classy. Parang ang cheap kasi nung kulay na puti ngayon.

Well it is not T who design those LRT and MRT in manila. It's the government who implement it is the one T. Alam mo na pina mukhang cheap yung structure para walang masabi ang tao about the kurakot. Kasi pinalabas na cheap one, kaya ganyan ang kinalabasan.

Hi sino po ba yung nakielam sa design ng MRT 3? Did politics get in the way?

Partly. But again, those who planned MRT-3 did not anticipate that there will be a high volume of commuters in the future.

Even 4 car trams won't be enough to handle the volume.

This is the problem that the MRT is facing

By Habagat Central

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And this will be the same if The MRT-7 would be planned the same way as MRT-3.

It is light rail despite having 3 trams together. The cars used are trams and not real metro cars.

Again, the MRT-3 is one of the worst planned metro systems ever and as a result, major overcrowding happens especially during rush hour.

And as I said before, why would they plan a light rail system running on a major thoroughfare when a heavy rail full metro could have been planned instead?

Unfortunately, the gap between the tracks, stations, etc cannot handle heavy rail cars because the standard metro would be at least 3 metres in width. The MRT-3 is around 2.5 metres in width.

The only exception of full metros running the 2.5 metres width would be those of Paris, Montreal or Mexico City but they are mostly rubber tired and run on the third rail. The MRT-3 uses steel.
Yeah. MRT-3 is what it is now because of whoever was president at that time..

I read somewhere that the line was made to cater to commuting employees working in business districts, even plans to the NAIA terminals. Unfortunately, whoever was the president at that time, made one simple modification to the MRT-3 system that made the entire service at it's worst, it did not even involve any physical changes to the line...
...it's the PRICE!

From a supposed minimum fare of 42/43 pesos per ticket, plus succeeding charges depending on distance, down to 10 pesos. Bringing in the worst mrt-3 commuters, the construction worker men, who uses their strength to pry in to get on and off the train at Guadaloupe station. Seesh.

^^ how about this:
They should increase the fares of trains during rush hour, since there is a large demand. In hours when there are hardly any passengers, the fares would be low. That way, it could control the volume of passengers. Plus you get more revenue :)

That will never happen, kahit 50 cents nga lang na increase in jeepney fares pinoprotesta na ng mamamayan, what more kung 5 or 10 pesos.

^^

IMO dapat siguro sa MRT 4cars na train (parang 3g ang specs pero MRT3 ang length) at 30-40seconds ang interval hindi 2 minutes pede ba yun?

jacking up MRT prices to the originally planned price would drive a lot of people to use buses, which in turn would make EDSA a parking lot, effectively stopping our economy.

the only solution to the problem of MRT3 is to increase the number of trains plying the system. raising prices is like solving a problem, with another problem.

i agree its about time....siguro naman dapat ng taasan ng pamasahe ang mrt at lrt...sobrang baba nito....

jacking up MRT prices to the originally planned price would drive a lot of people to use buses, which in turn would make EDSA a parking lot, effectively stopping our economy.

the only solution to the problem of MRT3 is to increase the number of trains plying the system. raising prices is like solving a problem, with another problem.
So we can't expand crosswise, we could just add more train length lengthwise? OK. I dunno what happened to the orders for more trains, I still don't see them. 3 bogies

True, it will slow down EDSA that Bayani used sweat and blood to make Gwapo, but still, 10 pesos to get to your destination fast, even if you get squished and sometimes get taken advantaged of? 12 pesos minimum please :) The government has been shouldering the cost for years now, it's just about time :)

Not Bad right?
Minimum: 12
North-Taft: 17

^^

IMO dapat siguro sa MRT 4cars na train (parang 3g ang specs pero MRT3 ang length) at 30-40seconds ang interval hindi 2 minutes pede ba yun?

^^
mukha namang kasyang-kasya pa ang 4 cars configuration sa MRT stations eh. Mukha kasing kulang sa trains ang MRT. Wala ba silang planong mag-upgrade at kumuha ng bagong trains? or kahit i-donate nalang ng LRT sa MRT ung lumang 2G trains nila :nuts:

i guess anything around the range of 15-20 pesos would be tolerable, pero ang 30 pesos is just too much. bakit ba antagal nilang mag acquire ng trains. nakakabanas na ang MRT3. inuna pa nila yang mga LCD TV kesa bumili ng trains. they obviously don't know their priorities. like for instance, buying a ticket in Cubao, is like HELL. i'd rather take an effing bus, kaisa magtiis sa pila sa cubao.

^^

IMO dapat siguro sa MRT 4cars na train (parang 3g ang specs pero MRT3 ang length) at 30-40seconds ang interval hindi 2 minutes pede ba yun?

Pwede rin yun. Madalas nangyayari yan sa LRT-1. Yung sa MRT-3, di lang 2 mins, 3-5 pa kamo. Kelangan talaga dyan dagdagan ang trains sa MRT3 kasi nung huli kong sakay 2 weeks ago, nasarhan at naiwan ako ng kaibigan ko dahil sa pagmamadali ng driver (take note, kinumpas ko pa yung guard nun na buksan ang pinto dahil naiwan ako pero waepek tumingin lang at umalis ang train:nuts::nuts::nuts:). Sa konti ng train, kelangan mabilis ang pag-alis para macater ang mga passenger sa mga sususnod na stations.:ohno:

Yup, hanggang 4 pwede, eh kulang sa trains, ayun. Tsk tsk, saka naku, if ever that happens, hindi na matatapos ang pila papunta sa turnstiles sa crowded stations like north, cubao, shaw, ayala, taft? Haays, epic fail naman mrt-3. Tsk tsk, :ohno:


Taxi! :banana:

^^
mukha namang kasyang-kasya pa ang 4 cars configuration sa MRT stations eh. Mukha kasing kulang sa trains ang MRT. Wala ba silang planong mag-upgrade at kumuha ng bagong trains? or kahit i-donate nalang ng LRT sa MRT ung lumang 2G trains nila :nuts:

Nako BR30, kapag nag-donate ang LRTA, tayong line1 riders ang naman ang mangangawawa kapag nabawasan tayo ng trains sa line1. much better pa rin ang pagbili.

Yup, hanggang 4 pwede, eh kulang sa trains, ayun. Tsk tsk, saka naku, if ever that happens, hindi na matatapos ang pila papunta sa turnstiles sa crowded stations like north, cubao, shaw, ayala, taft? Haays, epic fail naman mrt-3. Tsk tsk, :ohno:


Taxi! :banana:

tama. di bale nang mahal, ginhawa naman at isang puntahan na lang kapag taxi. solo mo pa ang kotse at pdeng daldalin si manong driver:lol: haha. worst na tlga line3 kaya madalang na ako sumakay dyan.

^^

tama ka dun at yung pila naman ang problem eh kung upgrade na lang kaya ang MRT.....

parang ganito proposal:

Upgrading and expanding of existing stations
procurement of trains(Metro style not LRV!)
expanding the depot for more storage of trains ganon lang

pero at a cost to siugro pwede na P12 ang minumum at pinakamahal ang MRT2 na recto to santolan na P15 na 13km lang eh sa MRT3 P15 sa 17 km nito

^^

tama ka dun at yung pila naman ang problem eh kung upgrade na lang kaya ang MRT.....

parang ganito proposal:

Upgrading and expanding of existing stations
procurement of trains(Metro style not LRV!)
expanding the depot for more storage of trains ganon lang

pero at a cost to siugro pwede na P12 ang minumum at pinakamahal ang MRT2 na recto to santolan na P15 na 13km lang eh sa MRT3 P15 sa 17 km nito

kaya nga dapat ginaya na lang ng MRT3 ang scheme ng LRT na P12 sa first 4 stns then P15 sa mga kapag 5 or more stns. at least, kahit mas mahal nang kaunti fixed naman. nakakalito kasi rin ang scheme ng MRT3 sa fare eh. hehe.

ewan ko ba kung bakit hindi matuluy-tuloy ang pagdeliver ng 76 coaches ng MRT3 kesho may private owner yan o wala. kawawa na kasi ang passengers eh, sa totoo lang.

Nako BR30, kapag nag-donate ang LRTA, tayong line1 riders ang naman ang mangangawawa kapag nabawasan tayo ng trains sa line1. much better pa rin ang pagbili.

^^Tama ka dyan. Pag nag full operation na ang NEP kailangan na rin siguro magdagdag ng additional 3G ang LRT1.


pero at a cost to siugro pwede na P12 ang minumum at pinakamahal ang MRT2 na recto to santolan na P15 na 13km lang eh sa MRT3 P15 sa 17 km nito

^^Diba dati nung bago palang ang MRT mataas ang presyo ng ticket dyan. Kaya nga konti lang dati ang sumasakay dyan. Tapos binaba lang ang presyo. Bakit di na lang ibalik sa ganung halaga?

^^

P40 daw sabi ng mama ko di ko na matandaan yun eh mga 3 days after ng opening niya

^^Ang mahal pala.. Baka pag na implement yan magka EDSA 4.. :nuts:

^^ Noynoy resign eh noh??? hahaha.:lol: Pero, namiss ko yung times na yun walang sumasakay sa MRT3 at pumapasok pa ko sa driver's cab kausap ang driver. SANA mashare ko minsan ang pics na yun, nakadikit na kasi sa album eh .:lol::nuts:

^^ mahirap iscanin. haha.:lol:

they should put more business districts aside from makati. maybe put another business district in bulacan, antipolo, batangas

then connect by LRT these places.

and by all means put up LRT in davao and cebu!

I used the LRT earlier and man, it was hot! the aircondition broke down again (just on the last car of the 1G train). so we had to step out and wait for a 3G to come good thing it was a skip train and our ride was smooth and we got to seat. LRT is getting crowded again. Procurement of more 3G trains please!

The best way is to donate 2G trains to MRT3 since it is a slide type anyways and it won't hit the edge of the floors if ever. even if there are only 6 or 7 of them.

^^ mahirap iscanin. haha.:lol:

^^Kuhanan mo ng pic yung album.. :lol:

they should put more business districts aside from makati. maybe put another business district in bulacan, antipolo, batangas

then connect by LRT these places.

and by all means put up LRT in davao and cebu!


ang alam ko may ginawang batas sa tokyo na bawal na mag tayo ng skyscraper sa loob ng yamanote line(i think nung 1990's), kaya dumami talaga ang business districts outward.. hindi lang sa iilang lugar my pupuntahan ang mga tao..

I used the LRT earlier and man, it was hot! the aircondition broke down again (just on the last car of the 1G train). so we had to step out and wait for a 3G to come good thing it was a skip train and our ride was smooth and we got to seat. LRT is getting crowded again. Procurement of more 3G trains please!

The best way is to donate 2G trains to MRT3 since it is a slide type anyways and it won't hit the edge of the floors if ever. even if there are only 6 or 7 of them.

2g trains might be still used by LRT when the NEP opens ..airconditioning has been a problem with 2g trains but it can still be fixed ..why let Line 1 suffer when Line 3 could get new trains

they should put more business districts aside from makati. maybe put another business district in bulacan, antipolo, batangas

then connect by LRT these places.

and by all means put up LRT in davao and cebu!

There are already numerous business districts around Mega Manila and some of them are less than 50% full. Take Filinvest Corporate City for example. There are only 2 office buildings there and the rest are high-rise apartments. The north side though are full of mid-rise IT-buildings for BPO use.

Then you have Nuvali which is much further, etc.

And I'm sure there will be a high volume of commuters so an LRT would be sufficient enough to handle large volumes.

Again, Metro Manila should use full metro. This is one of the biggest cities in the world and there are millions of people commuting. Any future metro systems should handle such volume.

Yeah. MRT-3 is what it is now because of whoever was president at that time..

I read somewhere that the line was made to cater to commuting employees working in business districts, even plans to the NAIA terminals. Unfortunately, whoever was the president at that time, made one simple modification to the MRT-3 system that made the entire service at it's worst, it did not even involve any physical changes to the line...
...it's the PRICE!

From a supposed minimum fare of 42/43 pesos per ticket, plus succeeding charges depending on distance, down to 10 pesos. Bringing in the worst mrt-3 commuters, the construction worker men, who uses their strength to pry in to get on and off the train at Guadaloupe station. Seesh.

It was during Ramos' time when MRT-3 was planned but hey he's on the of best presidents The Philippines had during the late 20th century.

Anyway, It's not the fare that is the problem, it is the system. Mexico City's Metro is much cheaper than Manila's in fact its the cheapest in the world. But overcrowding is not much of a problem in compared to the MRT-3. Why is it?

For one, Mexico City Metro most use full metro trains.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d5/Mexico_City_Metro.jpg/800px-Mexico_City_Metro.jpg

In fact its rolling stock is equal to the LRT 3G trains both length and width. The only difference is Mexico City uses rubber tires and it runs on the third rail. The reason, the city's soil is unstable since Mexico City used to be a lake. Flooding can be a problem in Mexico City as well in fact it can get worst out there compared to Manila but they are able to build underground systems.

Mexico City has 12 lines compared to Manila's 3 so it can easily handle commuters and bring them efficiently from point A to point B. It also has a right rail system which is the Xochimilco Light Rail. But its route does not ply major thoroughfares unlike the MRT-3.

Anyway, public transportation is suppose to handle all classes and social status whether they are construction workers, businessmen, teachers, etc. And the price is reasonble so everyone can use it.

i guess anything around the range of 15-20 pesos would be tolerable, pero ang 30 pesos is just too much. bakit ba antagal nilang mag acquire ng trains. nakakabanas na ang MRT3. inuna pa nila yang mga LCD TV kesa bumili ng trains. they obviously don't know their priorities. like for instance, buying a ticket in Cubao, is like HELL. i'd rather take an effing bus, kaisa magtiis sa pila sa cubao.

They should have invested more on ticket vending machines than LCDs.

I guess they could procure new trains, if ever lang na hindi nila ma bili ang bilyon bilyong pisong tren, they can rent the existing unused 2G trains.

I guess they could procure new trains, if ever lang na hindi nila ma bili ang bilyon bilyong pisong tren, they can rent the existing unused 2G trains.

They can do that but unfortunately, the 2G trains cannot handle high passenger volume.

they should really buy new, longer, wider trains

they should really buy new, longer, wider trains

Again, the standard metro train will not fit on MRT stations. The max width that it can fit would be 2.5 m

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f6/MRT-Approaching.jpg

Then we go vertical then; unless the cables are on the way :nuts:

Then we go vertical then; unless the cables are on the way :nuts:

That would be impossible.

I've already posted before samples of full metro trains that can fit on the MRT-3 system. As in full metro that are at least 2.5 in width. Shall I post them again?

^^Why not?

Paris Metro

http://laparisiennecentre.com/blog/nfblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/1-paris-metro.jpg

Width is only 2.4 m, some of them use steel tires. Mexico City and Montreal's metro uses a similar model but run on rubber tires. And just by looking at the pic, the LRT 3G trains are longer.

A newer model (MF 2000)

http://photochemindefer.free.fr/phpwebgallery/galleries/urbain/metro_paris/2006-09-16-MF2000.jpg

can't they use trains with the same specs as the 3g trains?

Paris Metro

http://laparisiennecentre.com/blog/nfblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/1-paris-metro.jpg

Width is only 2.4 m, some of them use steel tires. Mexico City and Montreal's metro uses a similar model but run on rubber tires. And just by looking at the pic, the LRT 3G trains are longer.

A newer model (MF 2000)

http://photochemindefer.free.fr/phpwebgallery/galleries/urbain/metro_paris/2006-09-16-MF2000.jpg


Looking at those trains, Hinde ko type un aesthetics nila kahit gaano kamodern pa yan. Mas pogi parin ang mga tren natin :cheers:....kahit laspag na :lol:

Looking at those trains, Hinde ko type un aesthetics nila kahit gaano kamodern pa yan. Mas pogi parin ang mga tren natin :cheers:....kahit laspag na :lol:

lalo na yung 3g ..bigatin ang dating ..kaya lang yung busina parang sa vendor ng puto ..:lol:

i guess anything around the range of 15-20 pesos would be tolerable, pero ang 30 pesos is just too much. bakit ba antagal nilang mag acquire ng trains. nakakabanas na ang MRT3. inuna pa nila yang mga LCD TV kesa bumili ng trains. they obviously don't know their priorities. like for instance, buying a ticket in Cubao, is like HELL. i'd rather take an effing bus, kaisa magtiis sa pila sa cubao.


Yes, nakakayamot 'pag nakikita mong inuuna pa nila ang tacky gimmicks kaysa sa pagpapaayos muna ng sistema. Nakakasama ng loob 'pag nakikita ko ang LCD TVs sa MRT stations. XD

1st they should fix the capacity problems and then I wish LRTA would really push on with their promise of unified ticketing system this july/august. and the newer turnstiles in balintawak are said to be able to read wireless contact cards which I hope LRTA will aggressively promote not just for commute but also for just about everything.

Nako BR30, kapag nag-donate ang LRTA, tayong line1 riders ang naman ang mangangawawa kapag nabawasan tayo ng trains sa line1. much better pa rin ang pagbili.
^^
eh hindi na naman ginagamit ng LRTA ang 2G eh.. kung sira man un, i-donate nalang sa MRT at sila na bahala mag-ayos nun.

^^
eh hindi na naman ginagamit ng LRTA ang 2G eh.. kung sira man un, i-donate nalang sa MRT at sila na bahala mag-ayos nun.

pwede rin. 6 sets lang naman yun eh.

nitong huli eh tinest ata yung 2g trains ..magagamit pa yun ..aircon lang naman sira eh ..pag nagoperate na ang NEP baka kulangin na sa trains ang Line 1 ..Mas maganda na rin ang may extra

so i think ang problema ng mrt 3 kaya sobrang siksikan ay kulang sa stocks. tapos magiging mas mabilis yun wear n tear. paano pa kaya kung may magbreak down na train during rush hour? are they really into the business or nagdadalawang isip na sila? more trains would be better efficiency and better efficiency would mean more passengers. more passengers mean more income to them.

Yes, nakakayamot 'pag nakikita mong inuuna pa nila ang tacky gimmicks kaysa sa pagpapaayos muna ng sistema. Nakakasama ng loob 'pag nakikita ko ang LCD TVs sa MRT stations. XD

maganda na rin ung gnawa nila... why? eh diba ung mga lcd tvs dun is for advertisement purpose? think of it as an investment nalang muna...

They should have invested more on ticket vending machines than LCDs.

Don't forget reloadable RFID fare cards that are compatible system-wide.

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LRT 1 Caloocan to Cavite Black (Color)

Bagong Silang
Libis - Zapote
Almar
Cielito
Quirino Highway
Mindanao Avenue
Nova Proper
Damong Maliit
SB Diversion
Kaibiga
Bagabuin
NLEX
T. Santiago
Maysan Road
Gen. De Leon
SM Valenzuela
Fatima
Potrero
Monumento
10th Avenue
5th Avenue
R. Papa
Abad Santos
Blumentritt
Tayuman
Bambang
D. Jose
Cariedo
Central Terminal
Ayala Blvd.
UN Avenue
Pedro Gil
Quirino
Vito Cruz
Gil Puyat
Libertad
EDSA
Baclaran
FB Harison
Airport Road
Naia Road
Asia World
Dr. Santos
Carlos P. Garcia (C-5 EXT.)
Zapote
Talaba
Tirona
Bacoor
Imus
Dasmarinas

LRT 2 North Harbor to Infata Quezon (Purple)

North Harbor
R10
Juan Luna
Abad Santos
Recto
Loyola
Legarda
Nagtahan
Pureza
Altura
V. Mapa
Araneta
J. Ruiz
Gilmore
Betty Go
N. Domingo
Cubao
15th Avenue
Anonas
Katipunan
Riverbanks
Santolan
Rodriguez
Felix
Sumulong
Tanay
Santa Cruz
Infanta

MRT 3 Navotas to MOA (Blue)

North Bay
Dagat Dagatan
A. Mabini
Hero Del 96
Monumento
Malvar
Balintawak
Roosevelt
North Ave.
Quezon Ave.
Kamuning
Kamias
New York
Cubao
Santolan
San Juan (Gate 5)
Edsa Shrine
Ortigas
Shaw
Boni
Guadalupe
Kalayaan (Before Tnnel)
Buendia
Ayala
Magallanes
Evangelista
Taft Avenue
Roxas Blvd.
Macapagal
MOA

Road 5 Rail Ocean Park to Angono (Red)

Ocean Park
Taft Avenue
San Miguel
Mendiola
Nagtahan
Laura
Pedro Gil
Boni
Kalentong
9 De Febrero
Wack Wack
EDSA (Shaw Ortigas Link)
Meralco
C-5
Rodriguez
Floodway
Ever
Felix Avenue
Valley Golf
Taytay
L. Wood
SM Taytay
Highway 2000
Muzon
Angono

C-5 Rail Navotas to Quirino Avenue (Dark Green)

Mariano Naval
Bautista
Panghulo
Mac Arthur Highway
Gen. De Leon
Nlex
Ugong
Quirino Highway
Tandang Sora
Mindanao Avenue
Visayas Avenue
Culiat
Tierra Pura
Luzon Avenue
Commonwealth
UP Diliman
Ateneo
Aurora
P. Tuazon
Santolan
Libis
Ortigas
Julia Vargas
Pasig Blvd.
Kalayaan Avenue
32nd Street
Sampaguita
Bayani Road
FTI
Naia
Moonwalk
Velarde
Sucat Road
Quirino Avenue

Manila Bay Rail Cavite City to Subic Bay (Gray)

Subic
Olongapo
Morong
Balanga
Hermosa
Lubao
Calumpit
Paombong
Malolos
Bulacan Bulacan
Obando
Mariano Naval
C-4 Road
C-3 Road
Tondo
C-2 Road
Moriones
Del Pan
Anda
Padre Burgos
Pedro Gil
San Andres
Quirino
Ocampo
Gil Puyat
Cuneta
EDSA
BACLARAN
Airport Road
Naia
Asia World
C-5 Road
Zapote
Tirono
Kawit
Cavite City

PNR Tramo Las Pinas - Muntilupa (Gusto ko lang sang mulit itong mabuhay line na ito)
Singalong
Ocampo
Buendia
Pasay Road
EDSA
SALES
NAIA
Dr. Santos
C-5 Road
Zapote
Las Pinas City hall
BF Homes Road
SM South Mall
Daang Hari
Alabang

PNR Novaliches - Caloocan

10th Avenue
Rizal Avenue
B. Serano
11th Avenue
EDSA
Camachille
Baesa
Tandang Sora
Talipapa
Mindanao Avenue
Seminary Road
San Bartolome
Gulod
Gen. Luis
Deparo
Zabarte
Zapote
Camarin
Crispulo

MRT 7 San Jose Del Monte to D. Jose (Cyan)

Tungko
Tala
Crispulo
Sacred Heart
Lagro
SM Fairview
Bristol
North Fairview
Regalado
Dona Carmen
Litex
Commonwealth Market
Batasan
Don Antonio
Feria
Tandang Sora
UP Diliman
Philcoa
Q.C. Circle
EDSA
Del Monte
Timog
Roosevelt
Araneta
Banaue
Mayon
Antipolo
Lacson
Morayta
D. Jose

North Rail Malolos to Bonfacio (Green)
Malolos
Guiguinto
Balagtas
Bocaue
Marilao
Macauyan
Valenzuela
Malabon
Caloocan
C-3 Road
Rizal Ave.
Bonifacio Avenue
Sto. Domingo
Del Monte
Quezon Avenue
Rodriguez
Aurora
Old Sta. Mesa
F. Blumentritt
Shaw
Boni
J.P Rizal
Buendia
Paseo De Roxas
EDSA
Global City

PNR Main

Caloocan
Asistio
C-3
Maypajo
Solis
Tayuman
Tutuban
Blumentritt
Dimasalang
Dapitan
Espana
Sampaloc
Santa Mesa
Pandacan
Paco
San Andres
Vito Cruz
Buendia
Pasay Road
EDSA
Nichols
FTI
Bicutan
Sucat
Alabang

PNR Sta. Mesa - Montalban (Dapat itong Buhain)

Sta. Mesa
Bacood
Kalentong
C-3 Road
Libertad
EDSA
Kapitolio
C-5
Pasig Blvd.
Ortigas
Floodway
Karuhatan
Marcos
Sumulong
Bayan Bayanan
Spain Street
Nanka
Batasan -San Mateo Road
San Mateo
Montalban

Sana Ito Ang Mga Lines In The Near Future!

^^ 1 point for the effort.

^^ 2 points for the effort :cheers:

lalo na yung 3g ..bigatin ang dating ..kaya lang yung busina parang sa vendor ng puto ..:lol:

Totot ba o potpot ang tunong? Pray mo na walang epot ang katabi mo :lol:

LRT 1 Balintawak station begins commercial operation
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Daily commuters from the northern parts of Quezon City and Caloocan City now enjoy faster travel to Manila and other southern points of the metropolis and vice versa with the recent opening to commercial operation of the Light Rail Transit (LRT) Line 1 Balintawak station along Epifanio delos Santos Ave. (EDSA) in Quezon City. Light Rail Transit Authority (LRTA) Administrator Melquiades Robles says the travel time via LRT trains from Balintawak to Baclaran in Paranaque City is between 35 and 45 minutes at a cost of P20. The train headway is from three to five minutes. The LRT Line 1 Roosevelt station is expected to begin operation next month and together with the North Ave. station will complete the linkage of the Metro Rail Transit (MRT) Line 3 and LRT Line 1. Upper photo shows a Baclaran-bound train leaving the LRT Balintawak station as another train (lower photo) passes by the Bonifacio Monument in Caloocan City on its way to Balintawak. (PNA photos by Jess Escaros Jr.)http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?nid=21

^^ Mwahaha, madedecongest na ang North Avenue Station!

IMHO, I think the largest station is the one in Waltermart Munoz.

Paris Metro

http://laparisiennecentre.com/blog/nfblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/1-paris-metro.jpg

Width is only 2.4 m, some of them use steel tires. Mexico City and Montreal's metro uses a similar model but run on rubber tires. And just by looking at the pic, the LRT 3G trains are longer.

A newer model (MF 2000)

http://photochemindefer.free.fr/phpwebgallery/galleries/urbain/metro_paris/2006-09-16-MF2000.jpg

Magkano naman kaya 'to.

I guess ginawa nilang 2.5 ang haba ng train because of the space constraints of EDSA. I guess the only way to go is for our rails to go double decking :D :D :D :D

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List of Stations In The Future Sana!

LRT 1 Caloocan to Cavite Black (Color)

Bagong Silang
Libis - Zapote
Almar
Cielito
Quirino Highway
Mindanao Avenue
Nova Proper
Damong Maliit
SB Diversion
Kaibiga
Bagabuin
NLEX
T. Santiago
Maysan Road
Gen. De Leon
SM Valenzuela
Fatima
Potrero
Monumento
10th Avenue
5th Avenue
R. Papa
Abad Santos
Blumentritt
Tayuman
Bambang
D. Jose
Cariedo
Central Terminal
Ayala Blvd.
UN Avenue
Pedro Gil
Quirino
Vito Cruz
Gil Puyat
Libertad
EDSA
Baclaran
FB Harison
Airport Road
Naia Road
Asia World
Dr. Santos
Carlos P. Garcia (C-5 EXT.)
Zapote
Talaba
Tirona
Bacoor
Imus
Dasmarinas

LRT 2 North Harbor to Infata Quezon (Purple)

North Harbor
R10
Juan Luna
Abad Santos
Recto
Loyola
Legarda
Nagtahan
Pureza
Altura
V. Mapa
Araneta
J. Ruiz
Gilmore
Betty Go
N. Domingo
Cubao
15th Avenue
Anonas
Katipunan
Riverbanks
Santolan
Rodriguez
Felix
Sumulong
Tanay
Santa Cruz
Infanta

MRT 3 Navotas to MOA (Blue)

North Bay
Dagat Dagatan
A. Mabini
Hero Del 96
Monumento
Malvar
Balintawak
Roosevelt
North Ave.
Quezon Ave.
Kamuning
Kamias
New York
Cubao
Santolan
San Juan (Gate 5)
Edsa Shrine
Ortigas
Shaw
Boni
Guadalupe
Kalayaan (Before Tnnel)
Buendia
Ayala
Magallanes
Evangelista
Taft Avenue
Roxas Blvd.
Macapagal
MOA

Road 5 Rail Ocean Park to Angono (Red)

Ocean Park
Taft Avenue
San Miguel
Mendiola
Nagtahan
Laura
Pedro Gil
Boni
Kalentong
9 De Febrero
Wack Wack
EDSA (Shaw Ortigas Link)
Meralco
C-5
Rodriguez
Floodway
Ever
Felix Avenue
Valley Golf
Taytay
L. Wood
SM Taytay
Highway 2000
Muzon
Angono

C-5 Rail Navotas to Quirino Avenue (Dark Green)

Mariano Naval
Bautista
Panghulo
Mac Arthur Highway
Gen. De Leon
Nlex
Ugong
Quirino Highway
Tandang Sora
Mindanao Avenue
Visayas Avenue
Culiat
Tierra Pura
Luzon Avenue
Commonwealth
UP Diliman
Ateneo
Aurora
P. Tuazon
Santolan
Libis
Ortigas
Julia Vargas
Pasig Blvd.
Kalayaan Avenue
32nd Street
Sampaguita
Bayani Road
FTI
Naia
Moonwalk
Velarde
Sucat Road
Quirino Avenue

Manila Bay Rail Cavite City to Subic Bay (Gray)

Subic
Olongapo
Morong
Balanga
Hermosa
Lubao
Calumpit
Paombong
Malolos
Bulacan Bulacan
Obando
Mariano Naval
C-4 Road
C-3 Road
Tondo
C-2 Road
Moriones
Del Pan
Anda
Padre Burgos
Pedro Gil
San Andres
Quirino
Ocampo
Gil Puyat
Cuneta
EDSA
BACLARAN
Airport Road
Naia
Asia World
C-5 Road
Zapote
Tirono
Kawit
Cavite City

PNR Tramo Las Pinas - Muntilupa (Gusto ko lang sang mulit itong mabuhay line na ito)
Singalong
Ocampo
Buendia
Pasay Road
EDSA
SALES
NAIA
Dr. Santos
C-5 Road
Zapote
Las Pinas City hall
BF Homes Road
SM South Mall
Daang Hari
Alabang

PNR Novaliches - Caloocan

10th Avenue
Rizal Avenue
B. Serano
11th Avenue
EDSA
Camachille
Baesa
Tandang Sora
Talipapa
Mindanao Avenue
Seminary Road
San Bartolome
Gulod
Gen. Luis
Deparo
Zabarte
Zapote
Camarin
Crispulo

MRT 7 San Jose Del Monte to D. Jose (Cyan)

Tungko
Tala
Crispulo
Sacred Heart
Lagro
SM Fairview
Bristol
North Fairview
Regalado
Dona Carmen
Litex
Commonwealth Market
Batasan
Don Antonio
Feria
Tandang Sora
UP Diliman
Philcoa
Q.C. Circle
EDSA
Del Monte
Timog
Roosevelt
Araneta
Banaue
Mayon
Antipolo
Lacson
Morayta
D. Jose

North Rail Malolos to Bonfacio (Green)
Malolos
Guiguinto
Balagtas
Bocaue
Marilao
Macauyan
Valenzuela
Malabon
Caloocan
C-3 Road
Rizal Ave.
Bonifacio Avenue
Sto. Domingo
Del Monte
Quezon Avenue
Rodriguez
Aurora
Old Sta. Mesa
F. Blumentritt
Shaw
Boni
J.P Rizal
Buendia
Paseo De Roxas
EDSA
Global City

PNR Main

Caloocan
Asistio
C-3
Maypajo
Solis
Tayuman
Tutuban
Blumentritt
Dimasalang
Dapitan
Espana
Sampaloc
Santa Mesa
Pandacan
Paco
San Andres
Vito Cruz
Buendia
Pasay Road
EDSA
Nichols
FTI
Bicutan
Sucat
Alabang

PNR Sta. Mesa - Montalban (Dapat itong Buhain)

Sta. Mesa
Bacood
Kalentong
C-3 Road
Libertad
EDSA
Kapitolio
C-5
Pasig Blvd.
Ortigas
Floodway
Karuhatan
Marcos
Sumulong
Bayan Bayanan
Spain Street
Nanka
Batasan -San Mateo Road
San Mateo
Montalban

Sana Ito Ang Mga Lines In The Near Future!

3 points for the effort.

lalo na yung 3g ..bigatin ang dating ..kaya lang yung busina parang sa vendor ng puto ..:lol:

Agree the 3G trains are badass! And so are the Purple Line trains. I like that strip on the sides which shows Filipino culture.

Magkano naman kaya 'to.

I guess ginawa nilang 2.5 ang haba ng train because of the space constraints of EDSA. I guess the only way to go is for our rails to go double decking :D :D :D :D

Again, I have never seen any double decker rail that is 2.5 metres in width. That would be impossible.

Double Decker stock are mostly use for commuter-intercity use. Not metro.

If there are any plans for double decker stock, that would be on the PNR.

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List of Stations In The Future Sana!

LRT 1 Caloocan to Cavite Black (Color)

Bagong Silang
Libis - Zapote
Almar
Cielito
Quirino Highway
Mindanao Avenue
Nova Proper
Damong Maliit
SB Diversion
Kaibiga
Bagabuin
NLEX
T. Santiago
Maysan Road
Gen. De Leon
SM Valenzuela
Fatima
Potrero
Monumento
10th Avenue
5th Avenue
R. Papa
Abad Santos
Blumentritt
Tayuman
Bambang
D. Jose
Cariedo
Central Terminal
Ayala Blvd.
UN Avenue
Pedro Gil
Quirino
Vito Cruz
Gil Puyat
Libertad
EDSA
Baclaran
FB Harison
Airport Road
Naia Road
Asia World
Dr. Santos
Carlos P. Garcia (C-5 EXT.)
Zapote
Talaba
Tirona
Bacoor
Imus
Dasmarinas

LRT 2 North Harbor to Infata Quezon (Purple)

North Harbor
R10
Juan Luna
Abad Santos
Recto
Loyola
Legarda
Nagtahan
Pureza
Altura
V. Mapa
Araneta
J. Ruiz
Gilmore
Betty Go
N. Domingo
Cubao
15th Avenue
Anonas
Katipunan
Riverbanks
Santolan
Rodriguez
Felix
Sumulong
Tanay
Santa Cruz
Infanta

MRT 3 Navotas to MOA (Blue)

North Bay
Dagat Dagatan
A. Mabini
Hero Del 96
Monumento
Malvar
Balintawak
Roosevelt
North Ave.
Quezon Ave.
Kamuning
Kamias
New York
Cubao
Santolan
San Juan (Gate 5)
Edsa Shrine
Ortigas
Shaw
Boni
Guadalupe
Kalayaan (Before Tnnel)
Buendia
Ayala
Magallanes
Evangelista
Taft Avenue
Roxas Blvd.
Macapagal
MOA

Road 5 Rail Ocean Park to Angono (Red)

Ocean Park
Taft Avenue
San Miguel
Mendiola
Nagtahan
Laura
Pedro Gil
Boni
Kalentong
9 De Febrero
Wack Wack
EDSA (Shaw Ortigas Link)
Meralco
C-5
Rodriguez
Floodway
Ever
Felix Avenue
Valley Golf
Taytay
L. Wood
SM Taytay
Highway 2000
Muzon
Angono

C-5 Rail Navotas to Quirino Avenue (Dark Green)

Mariano Naval
Bautista
Panghulo
Mac Arthur Highway
Gen. De Leon
Nlex
Ugong
Quirino Highway
Tandang Sora
Mindanao Avenue
Visayas Avenue
Culiat
Tierra Pura
Luzon Avenue
Commonwealth
UP Diliman
Ateneo
Aurora
P. Tuazon
Santolan
Libis
Ortigas
Julia Vargas
Pasig Blvd.
Kalayaan Avenue
32nd Street
Sampaguita
Bayani Road
FTI
Naia
Moonwalk
Velarde
Sucat Road
Quirino Avenue

Manila Bay Rail Cavite City to Subic Bay (Gray)

Subic
Olongapo
Morong
Balanga
Hermosa
Lubao
Calumpit
Paombong
Malolos
Bulacan Bulacan
Obando
Mariano Naval
C-4 Road
C-3 Road
Tondo
C-2 Road
Moriones
Del Pan
Anda
Padre Burgos
Pedro Gil
San Andres
Quirino
Ocampo
Gil Puyat
Cuneta
EDSA
BACLARAN
Airport Road
Naia
Asia World
C-5 Road
Zapote
Tirono
Kawit
Cavite City

PNR Tramo Las Pinas - Muntilupa (Gusto ko lang sang mulit itong mabuhay line na ito)
Singalong
Ocampo
Buendia
Pasay Road
EDSA
SALES
NAIA
Dr. Santos
C-5 Road
Zapote
Las Pinas City hall
BF Homes Road
SM South Mall
Daang Hari
Alabang

PNR Novaliches - Caloocan

10th Avenue
Rizal Avenue
B. Serano
11th Avenue
EDSA
Camachille
Baesa
Tandang Sora
Talipapa
Mindanao Avenue
Seminary Road
San Bartolome
Gulod
Gen. Luis
Deparo
Zabarte
Zapote
Camarin
Crispulo

MRT 7 San Jose Del Monte to D. Jose (Cyan)

Tungko
Tala
Crispulo
Sacred Heart
Lagro
SM Fairview
Bristol
North Fairview
Regalado
Dona Carmen
Litex
Commonwealth Market
Batasan
Don Antonio
Feria
Tandang Sora
UP Diliman
Philcoa
Q.C. Circle
EDSA
Del Monte
Timog
Roosevelt
Araneta
Banaue
Mayon
Antipolo
Lacson
Morayta
D. Jose

North Rail Malolos to Bonfacio (Green)
Malolos
Guiguinto
Balagtas
Bocaue
Marilao
Macauyan
Valenzuela
Malabon
Caloocan
C-3 Road
Rizal Ave.
Bonifacio Avenue
Sto. Domingo
Del Monte
Quezon Avenue
Rodriguez
Aurora
Old Sta. Mesa
F. Blumentritt
Shaw
Boni
J.P Rizal
Buendia
Paseo De Roxas
EDSA
Global City

PNR Main

Caloocan
Asistio
C-3
Maypajo
Solis
Tayuman
Tutuban
Blumentritt
Dimasalang
Dapitan
Espana
Sampaloc
Santa Mesa
Pandacan
Paco
San Andres
Vito Cruz
Buendia
Pasay Road
EDSA
Nichols
FTI
Bicutan
Sucat
Alabang

PNR Sta. Mesa - Montalban (Dapat itong Buhain)

Sta. Mesa
Bacood
Kalentong
C-3 Road
Libertad
EDSA
Kapitolio
C-5
Pasig Blvd.
Ortigas
Floodway
Karuhatan
Marcos
Sumulong
Bayan Bayanan
Spain Street
Nanka
Batasan -San Mateo Road
San Mateo
Montalban

Sana Ito Ang Mga Lines In The Near Future!


Dapat ito ang MRT7 Maglav para tipid sa kuryente

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Dapat ito ang MRT7 Maglav para tipid sa kuryente

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Good idea but Maglev is not for metro use.

Maglev would be better of on the Northrail/Southrail systems.

only solution ba sa mrt 3 ang pagprocure ng mga bagong train?

^^ wouldn't the manila bay Rail be a bit redundant in the Pasay-Las Pinas area? The LRT south extension is like 400 m from it and its route is parallel to Manila Bay Rail.

only solution ba sa mrt 3 ang pagprocure ng mga bagong train?

Here are the solutions for MRT-3

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a7/Paris-subway-ligne5.jpg/900px-Paris-subway-ligne5.jpg

- upgrade from light rail to full metro

http://photochemindefer.free.fr/phpwebgallery/galleries/urbain/metro_paris/2006-09-16-MF2000.jpg

- acquire new trains suitable for full metro use that can fit with the current station configuration

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_A8NwD4itN2M/SG3DNnCJMBI/AAAAAAAACd8/G0NW1GvcTUY/s640/lrt+carriedo+station.jpg

- or acquire some 3G trains from the LRTA

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i165/ckii96/Travel/Macao%20and%20Hong%20Kong/Hong_Kong_004.jpg

- acquire more ticket vending machines to increase efficiency

http://www.thaibirding.com/images/skytrain-change-booth.jpg

- the current ticket booth and its workers will operate only to give change especially those who carry large bills. Plus customer assistance, etc.

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/recap2_151.jpg

- usage of a smart card system

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/LRT_Araneta.jpg

- improvement of stations

better yet

- merge with the current LRTA

- unified ticketing system

magaling ang LRTA para sa akin ..maganda nga ang pagmemerge

what's the difference of light rail and full metro rail?

what happened to the lrt/mrts plan to acquire some rolling stock from the brussels metro and vienna metro? any updates? and what trains would they get?

magaling ang LRTA para sa akin ..maganda nga ang pagmemerge

Actually Kel, tama ka. Magaling ang LRTA kaya sila ang pinakagusto ko sa lahat. Si Mr. Robles ang mahusay dyan. Kaya sana, wag siyang maalis sa susunod na administrasyon. :D

Rehab the units, buy better cars, and furnish the stations.

Honestly, Monday rush hour is a nightmare. I can almost see people spilling out of the platform in North Avenue. Prolly the continuation of the LRT-MRT link could somehow lower that.

As for platforms, don't they also have a relation with the number of cars to be installed?
what made you say that the connection of LRT-MRT can partly solve that spill over overcrowding or whatever it is? hello, use data mining algorithm to analyze this question para mas credible at kapani-paniwala. I am seeing that everything in this discussion is very very misleading but well what you expect

what's the difference of light rail and full metro rail?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_rail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_transit

^^ Mwahaha, madedecongest na ang North Avenue Station!

IMHO, I think the largest station is the one in Waltermart Munoz.

I think pareho lang ang laki ng Balintawak and Roosevelt stations.

Speaking of Roosevelt station, buo na pala iyong roof, walls are almost done on the Concourse. Paint job has started. Wala pa ring bubong iyong Westbound stairs, Eastbound stairs naman hindi pa buo.

From the looks of it, on or before Independence Day soft opening na! :banana: :lol:


Project Duration:
May 2007 - April 2010 (excluding Defects and Liability Period)
May 2007 - December 2009 (Loop closed)
Partial Operation of Balintawak Station - First Quarter 2010
Partial Operation of Roosevelt Station - Second Quarter 2010
Construction Completion of Common Station is Targeted on November 30, 2010

Speaking of smart cards or RFID cards, I saw a card reader akin to the octopus card reader installed in the JAM liners bus albeit unoperational. I hope LRTA or the Philippine gov't would introduce a card system to the establishments. They should start with LRT first and heavily advertise it's use.

secondly, I hope they make the yellow line stations airconditioned. maliit lang naman ang stations eh just wishful thinking...

Basta ang pinaka feasible for now is the unified ticketing system for ALL lines.

Dapat Ganito Ang Rail Network Sa Metro Manila!

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List of Stations In The Future Sana!

LRT 1 Caloocan to Cavite Black (Color)

Bagong Silang
Libis - Zapote
Almar
Cielito
Quirino Highway
Mindanao Avenue
Nova Proper
Damong Maliit
SB Diversion
Kaibiga
Bagabuin
NLEX
T. Santiago
Maysan Road
Gen. De Leon
SM Valenzuela
Fatima
Potrero
Monumento
10th Avenue
5th Avenue
R. Papa
Abad Santos
Blumentritt
Tayuman
Bambang
D. Jose
Cariedo
Central Terminal
Ayala Blvd.
UN Avenue
Pedro Gil
Quirino
Vito Cruz
Gil Puyat
Libertad
EDSA
Baclaran
FB Harison
Airport Road
Naia Road
Asia World
Dr. Santos
Carlos P. Garcia (C-5 EXT.)
Zapote
Talaba
Tirona
Bacoor
Imus
Dasmarinas

LRT 2 North Harbor to Infata Quezon (Purple)

North Harbor
R10
Juan Luna
Abad Santos
Recto
Loyola
Legarda
Nagtahan
Pureza
Altura
V. Mapa
Araneta
J. Ruiz
Gilmore
Betty Go
N. Domingo
Cubao
15th Avenue
Anonas
Katipunan
Riverbanks
Santolan
Rodriguez
Felix
Sumulong
Tanay
Santa Cruz
Infanta

MRT 3 Navotas to MOA (Blue)

North Bay
Dagat Dagatan
A. Mabini
Hero Del 96
Monumento
Malvar
Balintawak
Roosevelt
North Ave.
Quezon Ave.
Kamuning
Kamias
New York
Cubao
Santolan
San Juan (Gate 5)
Edsa Shrine
Ortigas
Shaw
Boni
Guadalupe
Kalayaan (Before Tnnel)
Buendia
Ayala
Magallanes
Evangelista
Taft Avenue
Roxas Blvd.
Macapagal
MOA

Road 5 Rail Ocean Park to Angono (Red)

Ocean Park
Taft Avenue
San Miguel
Mendiola
Nagtahan
Laura
Pedro Gil
Boni
Kalentong
9 De Febrero
Wack Wack
EDSA (Shaw Ortigas Link)
Meralco
C-5
Rodriguez
Floodway
Ever
Felix Avenue
Valley Golf
Taytay
L. Wood
SM Taytay
Highway 2000
Muzon
Angono

C-5 Rail Navotas to Quirino Avenue (Dark Green)

Mariano Naval
Bautista
Panghulo
Mac Arthur Highway
Gen. De Leon
Nlex
Ugong
Quirino Highway
Tandang Sora
Mindanao Avenue
Visayas Avenue
Culiat
Tierra Pura
Luzon Avenue
Commonwealth
UP Diliman
Ateneo
Aurora
P. Tuazon
Santolan
Libis
Ortigas
Julia Vargas
Pasig Blvd.
Kalayaan Avenue
32nd Street
Sampaguita
Bayani Road
FTI
Naia
Moonwalk
Velarde
Sucat Road
Quirino Avenue

Manila Bay Rail Cavite City to Subic Bay (Gray)

Subic
Olongapo
Morong
Balanga
Hermosa
Lubao
Calumpit
Paombong
Malolos
Bulacan Bulacan
Obando
Mariano Naval
C-4 Road
C-3 Road
Tondo
C-2 Road
Moriones
Del Pan
Anda
Padre Burgos
Pedro Gil
San Andres
Quirino
Ocampo
Gil Puyat
Cuneta
EDSA
BACLARAN
Airport Road
Naia
Asia World
C-5 Road
Zapote
Tirono
Kawit
Cavite City

PNR Tramo Las Pinas - Muntilupa (Gusto ko lang sang mulit itong mabuhay line na ito)
Singalong
Ocampo
Buendia
Pasay Road
EDSA
SALES
NAIA
Dr. Santos
C-5 Road
Zapote
Las Pinas City hall
BF Homes Road
SM South Mall
Daang Hari
Alabang

PNR Novaliches - Caloocan

10th Avenue
Rizal Avenue
B. Serano
11th Avenue
EDSA
Camachille
Baesa
Tandang Sora
Talipapa
Mindanao Avenue
Seminary Road
San Bartolome
Gulod
Gen. Luis
Deparo
Zabarte
Zapote
Camarin
Crispulo

MRT 7 San Jose Del Monte to D. Jose (Cyan)

Tungko
Tala
Crispulo
Sacred Heart
Lagro
SM Fairview
Bristol
North Fairview
Regalado
Dona Carmen
Litex
Commonwealth Market
Batasan
Don Antonio
Feria
Tandang Sora
UP Diliman
Philcoa
Q.C. Circle
EDSA
Del Monte
Timog
Roosevelt
Araneta
Banaue
Mayon
Antipolo
Lacson
Morayta
D. Jose

North Rail Malolos to Bonfacio (Green)
Malolos
Guiguinto
Balagtas
Bocaue
Marilao
Macauyan
Valenzuela
Malabon
Caloocan
C-3 Road
Rizal Ave.
Bonifacio Avenue
Sto. Domingo
Del Monte
Quezon Avenue
Rodriguez
Aurora
Old Sta. Mesa
F. Blumentritt
Shaw
Boni
J.P Rizal
Buendia
Paseo De Roxas
EDSA
Global City

PNR Main

Caloocan
Asistio
C-3
Maypajo
Solis
Tayuman
Tutuban
Blumentritt
Dimasalang
Dapitan
Espana
Sampaloc
Santa Mesa
Pandacan
Paco
San Andres
Vito Cruz
Buendia
Pasay Road
EDSA
Nichols
FTI
Bicutan
Sucat
Alabang

PNR Sta. Mesa - Montalban (Dapat itong Buhain)

Sta. Mesa
Bacood
Kalentong
C-3 Road
Libertad
EDSA
Kapitolio
C-5
Pasig Blvd.
Ortigas
Floodway
Karuhatan
Marcos
Sumulong
Bayan Bayanan
Spain Street
Nanka
Batasan -San Mateo Road
San Mateo
Montalban

Sana Ito Ang Mga Lines In The Near Future!

ano2 po ang stations ng northrail?? :D

I think pareho lang ang laki ng Balintawak and Roosevelt stations.

Speaking of Roosevelt station, buo na pala iyong roof, walls are almost done on the Concourse. Paint job has started. Wala pa ring bubong iyong Westbound stairs, wala pa ring bubong, Eastbound stairs, hindi pa buo.

From the looks of it, on or before Independence Day soft opening na! :banana: :lol:


Project Duration:
May 2007 - April 2010 (excluding Defects and Liability Period)
May 2007 - December 2009 (Loop closed)
Partial Operation of Balintawak Station - First Quarter 2010
Partial Operation of Roosevelt Station - Second Quarter 2010
Construction Completion of Common Station is Targeted on November 30, 2010
Does this common station physically link both the lrt and mrt? Where is this station built? Also, do you need to get out of the station to transfer trains?:?

Actually Kel, tama ka. Magaling ang LRTA kaya sila ang pinakagusto ko sa lahat. Si Mr. Robles ang mahusay dyan. Kaya sana, wag siyang maalis sa susunod na administrasyon. :D

^^Panu kung si Edu Manzano ipalit? :nuts::nuts:


Project Duration:
May 2007 - April 2010 (excluding Defects and Liability Period)
May 2007 - December 2009 (Loop closed)
Partial Operation of Balintawak Station - First Quarter 2010
Partial Operation of Roosevelt Station - Second Quarter 2010
Construction Completion of Common Station is Targeted on November 30, 2010
^^Nag start na ba ng construction sa GCT?

Does this common station physically link both the lrt and mrt? Where is this station built? Also, do you need to get out of the station to transfer trains?:?

common station nga eh...:D syempre expect mo na na linked na yung dalawang linya...you may not need to get out of the station, pero baka ung platforms na gagamiting magkahiwalay... o kaya pati ung ticket...:D

:cheers:

^^Panu kung si Edu Manzano ipalit? :nuts::nuts:

haha.:lol: :D wag naman.


^^Nag start na ba ng construction sa GCT?

3 weeks ago, nung mapadpad kami dyan sa NE, wala pa kong nakikitang improvements for the GCT. however, dun sa mismong daanan ng tren, may electric posts na (pero wala pa ang mga overhead wire), may parts din doon na may barriers na.

common station nga eh...:D syempre expect mo na na linked na yung dalawang linya...you may not need to get out of the station, pero baka ung platforms na gagamiting magkahiwalay... o kaya pati ung ticket...:D

:cheers:
so this station will be the first genuine train interchange in the Philippines :okay:

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balintawakhttp://farm4.static.flickr.com/3299/4621104307_db6c65b6ce.jpg

sorry kung malabo ..pero malinaw naman na may improvement

^^Nag start na ba ng construction sa GCT?

Nope, tinabunang mga hukay sa center island and sidewalks pa rin...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_rail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapid_transit

geeez why not go for metro system in the first place?

anyhow, next stupid question, it is possible to just upgrade from light to metro?

While it's not impossible, conversion to full metro will be too expensive.

Again, I have never seen any double decker rail that is 2.5 metres in width. That would be impossible.

Double Decker stock are mostly use for commuter-intercity use. Not metro.

If there are any plans for double decker stock, that would be on the PNR.

Good idea. I just hope we don't look like this...

http://tinatarnoff.typepad.com/.a/6a00e55378e88988340120a71d788a970b-800wi

^^(Semi-OT) Indians are indeed rail lovers. Majority of them living in urban areas take the metro or commuter rails. Provided that our Metropolis have efficient, well-linked metro lines other than we have today, surely Filipinos will re-experience the enjoyment of riding through iron horses across the cities.

While it's not impossible, conversion to full metro will be too expensive.

If only getting new rolling stock that are full metro and are capable of running through MRT lines then it would not be that expensive.

Like having the 3G trains run on it. To me they are considered full metro.

^^(Semi-OT) Indians are indeed rail lovers. Majority of them living in urban areas take the metro or commuter rails. Provided that our Metropolis have efficient, well-linked metro lines other than we have today, surely Filipinos will re-experience the enjoyment of riding through iron horses across the cities.

True if you ever watched Slumdog Millionaire. India has one of the largest stretch of rail tracks in Asia. The only difference is they use a broad gauge which is a bit wider than the normal standard gauge.

But the metro systems of India's cities are clean and efficient.

Mumbai Metro
http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/mumbai-metro/images/4-metro-railway.jpg

Delhi Metro
http://www.mynews.in/News/dailyimage/news/mumbai%20metro--250-1.jpg

And yes riding a commuter train in India can get nasty
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geeez why not go for metro system in the first place?

anyhow, next stupid question, it is possible to just upgrade from light to metro?

That's what I always ask those who planned the LRT-MRT. At least they did right for the purple line.

Again, light rail does not work for Manila.

That's what I always ask those who planned the LRT-MRT. At least they did right for the purple line.

Again, light rail does not work for Manila.

How much does an "acceptable" rail transit cost per train in MM?

How much does an "acceptable" rail transit cost per train in MM?

I wouldn't know. Better ask the people at Rotem, Alstrom or Bombardier. They are the ones who make these trains.

also ask the engineers for the extra concrete and rails for a metro line.

If only getting new rolling stock that are full metro and are capable of running through MRT lines then it would not be that expensive.

Like having the 3G trains run on it. To me they are considered full metro.

Infrastructure should also be considered. MRT-3 stations for example, are too small for the number of passengers using it.

Infrastructure should also be considered. MRT-3 stations for example, are too small for the number of passengers using it.

especially the island platforms ..thay are so narrow

Infrastructure should also be considered. MRT-3 stations for example, are too small for the number of passengers using it.

In comparison with the LRT-1 stations, they are narrow?

I don't think LRT's platforms are big either but they can still hold up even at an increasing passenger volume while the MRT's platform are getting oversaturated even if it is a tad bigger, the passenger keeps piling up because of the long interval between trains, capacity expansion will solve this.

Again, I have never seen any double decker rail that is 2.5 metres in width. That would be impossible.

Double Decker stock are mostly use for commuter-intercity use. Not metro.

If there are any plans for double decker stock, that would be on the PNR.

Double decker set that is 2.5 metres is absolutely impossible.

Even i feel 2.7 metre on our metre gauge train (Malaysia) is quite narrow, what more a double decker train...

Another issue is its impact on rail traffic.

Rapid transit normally operates at very high frequency, with short headways.

Boarding and disembarking on double decker train will take too long for short headway operation nature of rapid transit.

Good idea. I just hope we don't look like this...

http://tinatarnoff.typepad.com/.a/6a00e55378e88988340120a71d788a970b-800wi

Actually, Ganyan nga ang Itsura nung PNR dati eh. Kaya nga diba un mga tren natin ay may bungalow roof para hinde makasakay un mga pasaway at basura sa bubong. :nuts:

^^(Semi-OT) Indians are indeed rail lovers. Majority of them living in urban areas take the metro or commuter rails. Provided that our Metropolis have efficient, well-linked metro lines other than we have today, surely Filipinos will re-experience the enjoyment of riding through iron horses across the cities.

^^not all indians like their trains either. An indian co-employee told me that their train system is too expensive and the service sucks. And he said it is better to ride the bus because it is much cheaper and has good service.

^^(Semi-OT) Indians are indeed rail lovers. Majority of them living in urban areas take the metro or commuter rails. Provided that our Metropolis have efficient, well-linked metro lines other than we have today, surely Filipinos will re-experience the enjoyment of riding through iron horses across the cities.

Well actually that Above pic is from Bangladesh and not India..

Yes, Double Decker metro will be a real nice option ...it will be cost effective as well....and will cater to the demands of any mega city..!!!

Well actually that Above pic is from Bangladesh and not India..

Yes, Double Decker metro will be a real nice option ...it will be cost effective as well....and will cater to the demands of any mega city..!!!

Er.....the real problem is the time taken for boarding/disembarking.

It will take too long.

Double decker is fine for commuter train, but for rapid transit......i don't think so.

I don't think LRT's platforms are big either but they can still hold up even at an increasing passenger volume while the MRT's platform are getting oversaturated even if it is a tad bigger, the passenger keeps piling up because of the long interval between trains, capacity expansion will solve this.

Train interval is one of the major problems of MRT-3.

especially the island platforms ..thay are so narrow

whew. ako di pa ko nakakasakay ng MRT-3 kapag rush our. pero, sure na sure ako kapag marami tao sa mga makikitid na island platform na yan, malapit ka nang mahulog sa riles.:ohno:

kahit hindi rush hour marami talagang tao ..at hwag kang sasakay ng MRT3 kung may dalahin ka, lalo kang mahihirapan

ito ay marahil mas kakaunti ang tren na bumabyahe. dapat standard na 20 trains na. but I know kailangan nila magpahinga.

whew. ako di pa ko nakakasakay ng MRT-3 kapag rush our. pero, sure na sure ako kapag marami tao sa mga makikitid na island platform na yan, malapit ka nang mahulog sa riles.:ohno:

You can say that again. I could remember watching the Hungarian film Kontroll while looking at people bursting out of the station trying to get a ride. It happens every 7 o'clock.

I have to add that rails are also impacted by the number of kilometers to be built. We need heavy-duty trains. We're severely impacted by a lot of things. Maintenance na din kailangan.

We need a hike. A 5 peso hike would be good. Kulang pa talaga siguro yung mga revenues from the ad wrap.

You can say that again. I could remember watching the Hungarian film Kontroll while looking at people bursting out of the station trying to get a ride. It happens every 7 o'clock.

I have to add that rails are also impacted by the number of kilometers to be built. We need heavy-duty trains. We're severely impacted by a lot of things. Maintenance na din kailangan.

We need a hike. A 5 peso hike would be good. Kulang pa talaga siguro yung mga revenues from the ad wrap.

P5 is not enough, I read somewhere that the North Ave to Taft trip actually costs P65 per pax. So I guess the MRT will continue to be subsidized.

kahit hindi rush hour marami talagang tao ..at hwag kang sasakay ng MRT3 kung may dalahin ka, lalo kang mahihirapan

If the MRT was planned as a full metro, we wouldn't have this problem in the first place.

The lesson learned here is future lines in Manila's rapid transit should be full metro, enough to handle the metro's number of commuters and that there should be more TVMs to increase efficiency. Plus smart card.

Well actually that Above pic is from Bangladesh and not India..

Yes, Double Decker metro will be a real nice option ...it will be cost effective as well....and will cater to the demands of any mega city..!!!

Yes but India has its own share of overcapacity as well in its commuter trains.

Just like TWK90 said, double decker trains are more for commuter/intercity use, not metro.

In comparison with the LRT-1 stations, they are narrow?

The concourse and ticketing areas are inadequate for the large volume of passengers.

The concourse and ticketing areas are inadequate for the large volume of passengers.

I doubt that the current stations could be expanded to handle the number of passengers unless the MRT are willing to spend that much on improvement.

Seems like the only solution for now to ease overcrowding is to get more trains at least the 3G ones.

Such as shame for the blue line since it runs a major thoroughfare.

I doubt that the current stations could be expanded to handle the number of passengers unless the MRT are willing to spend that much on improvement.

Seems like the only solution for now to ease overcrowding is to get more trains at least the 3G ones.

Such as shame for the blue line since it runs a major thoroughfare.

Due to the school holidays, I didn't have any probs on MRT this week as long as I took it after 930. It's a narrow gauge train I think (trams/trolley cars). I looked at the lenght of the platform and there's still room for addional car to make it 4 (currently 3) and run them more often to avoid the overcrowding esp at Ayala Av.

All LRT/MRT lines use standard gauge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_gauge). Only the PNR uses narrow gauge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrow_gauge_railway).

metro manila's infrastructure developement is now busy on big and small scale projects,way to go manila and philippines.

Yup, never did I see manila do this many projects in my lifetime. Wag lang sana mag overspend like what Marcos admin did.

Even roads are being upgraded in espana and along the LRT.

P5 is not enough, I read somewhere that the North Ave to Taft trip actually costs P65 per pax. So I guess the MRT will continue to be subsidized.

kung P65 per passenger ang dapat, paanong naapprove yang project na yan at the first place? knowing our government, sa proposal pa lang (bago gawin yun mrt) siguradong babarilin na yang proposal. alam nila na hindi kakayanin ng masa yun ganyan rate given sa sobrang liit ng sahod natin dito. isa pa, as i know hindi ugali ng gobyerno natin ang pumasok sa paluging deal. palagi silang kabig. at paanong nangyari naapprove yun ganyan proposal at the first place?

pag ginawa nilang P65 per passenger, for sure malaki ang mababawas sa sasakay sa kanila. eh di parang ganun din. lumaki man yun charge pero ilan lang sasakay. baka mas malugi pa sila. ang daming option sa ibaba. mga bus, jeep at fx. matyaga naman ang mga pinoy pag ganyan na. hindi kaya may anomalies doon sa subsidy (kuno) para hindi halata?

^^Alam mo ba talaga yung sinasabi mo?

Siguro naman kahit mag-iiba na ng administrasyon, subsidized pa rin ang LRT-MRT natin. Yun nga lang, ang P10-15 na pamasahe ay maaaring tumaas kapag nangyari ang 15% VAT (na sana wag talaga dahil maraming aangal at magdudusa)

^^ang VAT ay ipinapataw sa bilihin at hindi sa pamasahe lalo na kung government owned. Wala namang 12% VAT ang pasahe sa LRT at MRT ah?

kung P65 per passenger ang dapat, paanong naapprove yang project na yan at the first place? knowing our government, sa proposal pa lang (bago gawin yun mrt) siguradong babarilin na yang proposal. alam nila na hindi kakayanin ng masa yun ganyan rate given sa sobrang liit ng sahod natin dito. isa pa, as i know hindi ugali ng gobyerno natin ang pumasok sa paluging deal. palagi silang kabig. at paanong nangyari naapprove yun ganyan proposal at the first place?

pag ginawa nilang P65 per passenger, for sure malaki ang mababawas sa sasakay sa kanila. eh di parang ganun din. lumaki man yun charge pero ilan lang sasakay. baka mas malugi pa sila. ang daming option sa ibaba. mga bus, jeep at fx. matyaga naman ang mga pinoy pag ganyan na. hindi kaya may anomalies doon sa subsidy (kuno) para hindi halata?


naglagay ka pa ng lrt at mrt kung balak mo rin naman palang pasakayin sa bus at fx mga tao? :nuts: :lol:

^^Alam mo ba talaga yung sinasabi mo?

Tama si Planning, it should be expensive.

Although I would agree to at least 35 max until the Taft avenue station. Slowly but surely lang.

^^I also think that LRT and MRT fares should be raised by at most Php5. San ka naman nakakita na sasakay ka ng aircon, walang traffic tapos mula sa magkabilang dulo ng EDSA eh Php15? Kahit sa bus ang layo ng pagka-mura nun diba? Kahit ata kinder alam na malulugi ang MRT kapag ganun ang pasahe.

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Wag na kayong umasa na aalisin yang government subsidy dahil may kumikita dyan.

kahit pa may patong at may kumikita basta ba nakikita natin ang improvements okay lang eh ..kaya lang wala eh, lalo na sa MRT3

dapat gawin nilang parallel sa bus yung pasahe sa MRT

^^ang VAT ay ipinapataw sa bilihin at hindi sa pamasahe lalo na kung government owned. Wala namang 12% VAT ang pasahe sa LRT at MRT ah?

^^ well, kung wala man, paumanhin sa iyo kung nagkamali ako. minsan lang magkamali. :-|

kahit pa may patong at may kumikita basta ba nakikita natin ang improvements okay lang eh ..kaya lang wala eh, lalo na sa MRT3

dapat gawin nilang parallel sa bus yung pasahe sa MRT

^^ Nakakaawa na nga ang MRT-3 eh. Napapagtuunan nga ng pansin sa pamamagitan ng mga proyekto ng pamahalaan pero nauudlot din. Main thoroughfare pa naman siya pero hindi maimprove-improve.

^^Alam mo ba talaga yung sinasabi mo?

opo. may mali ba? sa business may feasibility study di ba? ang sabi sinasubsidize ng gov't yun fare sa mrt 3 kasi dapat P65 daw. kung P65 nga dapat yun from north ave to edsa taft, feasible ba yun sa tingin mo sa masa? paanong na-approve yun kung P65 nga yun dapat na pamasahe?

naglagay ka pa ng lrt at mrt kung balak mo rin naman palang pasakayin sa bus at fx mga tao? :nuts: :lol:

so meaning mo dapat tanggalin na lang lahat ng mga buses at fx sa edsa kasi may mrt na? :nuts: :ohno:

basahin mo kasi ng maigi yun post. ang sabi ko, kung P65 nga daw dapat yun pamasahe sa mrt 3, iilan lang ba ang sasakay doon? sure na malaking volume ng pasahero ang mababawas kasi yun maghahanap ng ibang option yun mga tao na mas mura.

^^I also think that LRT and MRT fares should be raised by at most Php5. San ka naman nakakita na sasakay ka ng aircon, walang traffic tapos mula sa magkabilang dulo ng EDSA eh Php15? Kahit sa bus ang layo ng pagka-mura nun diba? Kahit ata kinder alam na malulugi ang MRT kapag ganun ang pasahe.

naiintindihan mo ba yun binabasa mo? kahit nga itaas ng Php10 kulang pa nga raw eh. Php65 nga daw dapat. kaya nga sinasubsidize daw ng gov't yun fare difference per passenger.

dapt sa mrt 3 e dagdagan pa ng station! kase ang dami din ang hindi nakikinabang tulad ng taga kamias, newyork, san juan (gate 5), roxas blvd, at moa! at ayoko sa no# 13 kase 13 stations ang mrt

imposible makatawid yan ng moa ..pwede yan kung irerenovate nila ang taft segment at gawing elevated

going underground is easier given that it's on ground level. baha-in ba ang lugar na yan?

going underground is easier given that it's on ground level. baha-in ba ang lugar na yan?

I believe the land that MOA is sitting on was reclaimed from Manila Bay. Building underground in that material poses a problem when earthquakes strike. Reclaimed land has a tendancy to liquify further compounding the damages from the earthquake.

Osaka's Kansai airport is built on reclaimed land but sits on pilings driven down to bedrock I believe. The entire building can be jacked up after an earthquake causes the land to liquify and the building sinks. I don't know if they are willing or able to spare that expense to build underground for such a short span of tracks.

opo. may mali ba? sa business may feasibility study di ba? ang sabi sinasubsidize ng gov't yun fare sa mrt 3 kasi dapat P65 daw. kung P65 nga dapat yun from north ave to edsa taft, feasible ba yun sa tingin mo sa masa? paanong na-approve yun kung P65 nga yun dapat na pamasahe?

so meaning mo dapat tanggalin na lang lahat ng mga buses at fx sa edsa kasi may mrt na? :nuts: :ohno:

basahin mo kasi ng maigi yun post. ang sabi ko, kung P65 nga daw dapat yun pamasahe sa mrt 3, iilan lang ba ang sasakay doon? sure na malaking volume ng pasahero ang mababawas kasi yun maghahanap ng ibang option yun mga tao na mas mura.Alam ko na 65 dapat ang original na pamasahe ng MRT3 kapag walang subsidy. Wala kaming sinasabing 65 dapat ang pamasahe sa MRT. Nagbabasa ka ba? Matagal na naming alam yan dahil matagal na naming pinaguusapan dito. At malamang may FS yan bago gawin. Lahat naman ng proyekto ng gobyerno dumadaan sa Monetary Board ng BSP at ng NEDA bago ipatupad. AT yung 65 na pamasahe ay kasama nga sa FS study na yun. Kaya nga halos lahat ng proyekto ng gobyerno ang hirap ipatupad agad kasi ang daming kailangang pagdaanan. Bobo ka ba?

Ang sinasabi ko lang, lahat naman ng rapid transit sa mundo ay subsidized ng gobyerno. Kaya lang naman lumaki yung subsisdy sa MRT kasi masyadong mababa yung pamasahe at may return of investment sa mga investors na nagbayad sa pagpapatayo ng MRT3 (ang alam ko nasa 15% bawat isa). Nasa kontrata yun dahil BOT (build-operate-transfer) and MRT3. Kaya nga binili yan ng gobyerno para makamura sila sa pagbibigay ng subsidy sa MRT3.

At pangatlo, san mo nakita sa post ko na sinabi kong tanggaling ang FX at bus? Ang sabi ko lang ipantay ang pamasahe ng MRT sa bus at FX na nasa EDSA para naman may competition.

naiintindihan mo ba yun binabasa mo? kahit nga itaas ng Php10 kulang pa nga raw eh. Php65 nga daw dapat. kaya nga sinasubsidize daw ng gov't yun fare difference per passenger.At tulad nga ng sinasabi ko sa taas, LAHAT ng RAPID TRANSIT sa mundo ay binibigyan ng subsidy ng gobyerno depende na lang kung hanggang magkano at kung hanggang kailan (or kung i-privitize nila). Wala naman kaming sinasabing gawing 65 ah? Alam naman naming kapag ginawa yang 65 eh walang sasakay diyan. Tulig ka ba? Ikaw ang dapat kong tanungin kung nagbabasa ka ba talaga or kung marunong kang magbasa.

naglagay ka pa ng lrt at mrt kung balak mo rin naman palang pasakayin sa bus at fx mga tao? :nuts: :lol:

opo. may mali ba? sa business may feasibility study di ba? ang sabi sinasubsidize ng gov't yun fare sa mrt 3 kasi dapat P65 daw. kung P65 nga dapat yun from north ave to edsa taft, feasible ba yun sa tingin mo sa masa? paanong na-approve yun kung P65 nga yun dapat na pamasahe?



so meaning mo dapat tanggalin na lang lahat ng mga buses at fx sa edsa kasi may mrt na? :nuts: :ohno:

basahin mo kasi ng maigi yun post. ang sabi ko, kung P65 nga daw dapat yun pamasahe sa mrt 3, iilan lang ba ang sasakay doon? sure na malaking volume ng pasahero ang mababawas kasi yun maghahanap ng ibang option yun mga tao na mas mura.

may nakalagay ba sa post ko na tanggalin na ang mrt at lrt? basahin mo ng maigi ang sarili mong post kasi baka di mo naintindihan ang mga pinaglalalagay mo. :lol:

Alam ko na 65 dapat ang original na pamasahe ng MRT3 kapag walang subsidy. Wala kaming sinasabing 65 dapat ang pamasahe sa MRT. Nagbabasa ka ba? Matagal na naming alam yan dahil matagal na naming pinaguusapan dito. At malamang may FS yan bago gawin. Lahat naman ng proyekto ng gobyerno dumadaan sa Monetary Board ng BSP at ng NEDA bago ipatupad. AT yung 65 na pamasahe ay kasama nga sa FS study na yun. Kaya nga halos lahat ng proyekto ng gobyerno ang hirap ipatupad agad kasi ang daming kailangang pagdaanan. Bobo ka ba?

Ang sinasabi ko lang, lahat naman ng rapid transit sa mundo ay subsidized ng gobyerno. Kaya lang naman lumaki yung subsisdy sa MRT kasi masyadong mababa yung pamasahe at may return of investment sa mga investors na nagbayad sa pagpapatayo ng MRT3 (ang alam ko nasa 15% bawat isa). Nasa kontrata yun dahil BOT (build-operate-transfer) and MRT3. Kaya nga binili yan ng gobyerno para makamura sila sa pagbibigay ng subsidy sa MRT3.

At pangatlo, san mo nakita sa post ko na sinabi kong tanggaling ang FX at bus? Ang sabi ko lang ipantay ang pamasahe ng MRT sa bus at FX na nasa EDSA para naman may competition.

At tulad nga ng sinasabi ko sa taas, LAHAT ng RAPID TRANSIT sa mundo ay binibigyan ng subsidy ng gobyerno depende na lang kung hanggang magkano at kung hanggang kailan (or kung i-privitize nila). Wala naman kaming sinasabing gawing 65 ah? Alam naman naming kapag ginawa yang 65 eh walang sasakay diyan. Tulig ka ba? Ikaw ang dapat kong tanungin kung nagbabasa ka ba talaga or kung marunong kang magbasa.

ikaw pala yung bobo eh. wala naman akong sinabing may sinabi kang dapat gawing P65 ang mrt. meron ba? nasaan? nahihirapan ka bang intindihin yun mga binabasa mo? sinabi ko malaking mababawas na pasahero pag ginawang P65 yun pamasahe. so kung sa feasibility nila kailangan pa nilang magsubsidize eh di meaning pumasok nga sila sa project na palugi. sana nagloan na lang sila sa bank para pondohan yun project at the first place para nabawasan yun middlemen.

pangalawa, may sinabi ba ako na ikaw yun nagpost about sa FX at edsa? bulag ka ba o naghahanap lang ng pansin? hindi sa iyo yun message pero gusto mong palalabasin sa iyo ko kinote. pakibasa lang po ng maigi. mayroon po nakalagay na "Originally Posted by b_two". ok?

may nakalagay ba sa post ko na tanggalin na ang mrt at lrt? basahin mo ng maigi ang sarili mong post kasi baka di mo naintindihan ang mga pinaglalalagay mo. :lol:

ang sinabi ko kung P65 nga dapat yun pamasahe ng mrt3 at kung susundin talaga natin yun dapat na pamasahe, meaning sa sarili nating mga bulsa manggagaling malaking mababawas na pasahero sa mrt3. ang gagawin siguro ng mga tao is sumakay na lang ng mga bus at fx kasi mas mura.

tapos ang sagot mo.....

naglagay ka pa ng lrt at mrt kung balak mo rin naman palang pasakayin sa bus at fx mga tao? :nuts: :lol:

anong ibig sabihin nun? at saka may sinabi ba akong may sinabi kang tanggalin na ang mrt at lrt? talaga bang naiintindihan mo yun binabasa mo? obviously hindi.

^^^^

:lol::lol::lol:

^^ stop that. ang ibig sabihin ba nyan, nalulugi ang government kada sakay ng pasahero ng mrt? haha..

Umm let's not treat each other's posts as facts, but more like opinions, unless a reference link is presented. thank you. :)

^^ stop that. ang ibig sabihin ba nyan, nalulugi ang government kada sakay ng pasahero ng mrt? haha..

i think mali naman yun ganyang connotation. suppose to be mas maraming passenger, mas malaking kita dapat di ba? so lesser dapat yun subsidy ng gov't. if i am not mistaken, i think i read it long ago. kahit na siksikan na ang mga passenger, the gov't still subsidize the fare, computation yata is P65 per passenger. like i said i just read it not so long ago. probably the reason is sobrang baba ng fare? pero kahit taasan konti kukulangin pa rin di ba?

bakit hindi magdagdag ng additional stocks at taasan ng konti yun fare? may volume na passenger na naman di ba? dahil walang pera? sa business kung gusto mo magexpand o lumaki yun kita kailangan mo maglabas ng additional capital para lumaki o dumami yun customers mo thus lalaki yun kita mo. but i think infusing additional capital would mean additional contract. and since the contract is build-operate-turnover, i think sa later part ng contract ayaw na maglabas ng additional capital ang mga investors kasi they would have lesser time to hurdle or make a good profit for the additional capital. they might just keep the needed capital as profit.

well, i am just thinking out loud here. kung may mali sa sinabi ko ok lang naman to be corrected. as long na walang calling names or pagbibintangan ka na may sinabi ka pero wala naman. i'm not saying tama ako or anything. as far as i know we are just having discussion. again if mali ako, i would be happy to be stand corrected and learn something new.

Sige na tama na, 65 lang yan. Kailangan lang talagang i-jack-up ang presyo ng ticket. I'd agree to have it jacked up to 35 basta't gagana ang mga elevator, lilinisin nila ang dingy stations nila, at iimprove ang facilities.

Nais kong makita na balang araw maging super efficient na 'tong MRT natin.

OK na siguro 35 muna. At least, pwedeng tanungin ang MRT: Ano gusto nyo, bus na matagal or MRT na kaybilis?

Hmm, let's see the world's metro and how ticket prices could help. Remind you that sometimes, depende talaga sa pag-subsidy ng gobyerno nila, long rail tracks, cars, environmental degradation, and the like, metro in one area could be different from another:

North Korean Metro 5 KP₩ (about $0.03 USD)
Ridership: 700,000 daily
System length 22 km (14 mi)
Track gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2427/4018376187_40ae1c68fd.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3199/2928273503_a922aa9e3a.jpg

http://www.transnico.com/NORTH%20KOREA%20-%20METRO%20-%201.JPG

http://jennwhiteside.com/photos/d/636-2/Pyongyang_metro_station.jpg

from: http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f7/amazing-subway-train-transit-centers-pictures-1215174/

Bangkok Metro Skytrain (40 Baht Maximum)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/70/BTS_LOGO.gif
Daily ridership Over 460,000
System length 28.7 km (17.83 mi)
Track gauge 1,435 mm (4 ft 8+1⁄2 in) (standard gauge)

http://www.urbanrail.net/as/bang/platform1.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/as/bang/subway-phetchaburi4.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/as/bang/subway-phetchaburi2.jpg

from: http://www.urbanrail.net/as/bang/bangkok.htm

Helsinki Metro
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/30/Helsingin_metro_logo.svg
Single ticket - EUR 2.00/2.50
Daily ridership 199,339 (2008)
Technical
System length 21.1 km (13.1 mi)
Track gauge 1,524 mm (5 ft)

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/hel/sornainen1.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/hel/myllypuro1.jpg

http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/hel/rastila1.jpg

from: http://www.urbanrail.net/eu/hel/helsinki.htm

I might post more.... Sobrang diverse ng mga na-find ko.

^^^^

sana isinama mo na din ang cost of living sa mga nabanggit mong metro systems kasi malaking factor sya kung hanggang magkano ang kayang ibayad ng bawat isang commuter. in that case maikukumpara natin sya sa pamasahe sa lrt at mrt natin.:cheers:

wag tayo ang mag-away ..yung management ng MRT 3 ang awayin natin:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

^^I also think that LRT and MRT fares should be raised by at most Php5. San ka naman nakakita na sasakay ka ng aircon, walang traffic tapos mula sa magkabilang dulo ng EDSA eh Php15? Kahit sa bus ang layo ng pagka-mura nun diba? Kahit ata kinder alam na malulugi ang MRT kapag ganun ang pasahe.

I agree. I think it's only fair na P20 ang MRT. :) I think sa LRT P20 na pag bababa ka sa mga extention stations, but I don't know, I have yet to try it. :)

Umm let's not treat each other's posts as facts, but more like opinions, unless a reference link is presented. thank you. :)

http://home.earthlink.net/~peterferko/keweb/aboutke/projects.htm
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&ved=0CBIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.botcenter.gov.ph%2Fprofiles%2FMRT3%2520Project.pdf&rct=j&q=neda+approve+mrt3+edsa&ei=x3X5S8agMdK0rAeD15ztCg&usg=AFQjCNFgauy2xBmA5Lap2_D6lpOJBtAIEQ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_Rail_Transit_Corporation#MRT-3_Phase-1_Project_Brief

Manila Light Rail

Kaiser is providing program management, technical oversight, construction supervision, and contract management services on the $655 million light-rail transit line along the Epifanio de los Santos Avenue (EDSA) corridor in downtown Manila, the Philippines. The EDSA line will help alleviate traffic on one of the world's busiest traffic corridors and reduce air pollution in one of the world's most populous cities. The Phase I portion of the MRT 3 system includes the construction of 13 stations on 16.8 kilometers of track along EDSA. MRT 3 follows the path of EDSA, which is a semi-circular ring road crossed by several radial roads leading to Manila's city center. The 16.8-kilometer system will be located in the median of EDSA and will be elevated for approximately 8 kilometers, at grade for approximately 7 kilometers, and underground for 2 kilometers. The project is being implemented through a unique, 25-year, build-lease-transfer (BLT) agreement ( signed August 1997, with Philippines' Department of Transportation and Communication (DOTC) ( by which a private Filipino-led consortium will finance and build the system, maintain it for 25 years, and lease it to the Filipino government who will operate it during that 25-year period.

The things I've said before are basically the summary of all those.

So 25 years pa bago magka revenue ang MRT? or 25 years para ma transfer sa government?

All LRT/MRT lines use standard gauge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_gauge). Only the PNR uses narrow gauge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrow_gauge_railway).

For now, but future PNR railways will use standard gauge. Anyway, narrow gauge seems to be the trend in most Asian countries especially Japan but are now upgrading to standard gauge.

^^ Actually, Japan only uses standard gauge for lines served by the Shinkansen. Most other lines, and even some metro lines, are narrow gauge.

kaya nga old EMU's from japan will be donated to PNR (info from PNR thread)

^^ Actually, Japan only uses standard gauge for lines served by the Shinkansen. Most other lines, and even some metro lines, are narrow gauge.

Japan's high speed railways are the only exception of the use of standard gauge but everything else its narrow.

^^ That's exactly what I said. :sleepy:

kaya nga old EMU's from japan will be donated to PNR (info from PNR thread)

It seems that alot of the rolling stocks of Manila's railway and metro systems are donated like The MRT for example.

It seems that alot of the rolling stocks of Manila's railway and metro systems are donated like The MRT for example.

^^Talaga? Donation lang ang MRT3?

^^Talaga? Donation lang ang MRT3?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_MRT#Rolling_stock

They were a gift from the Czech Republic.

The fact they were a gift I'm sure the MRT corp did not purchase the existing cars.

galante naman mga nagdodonate. :lol:

Manila MetroStar Express (MRT Blue Line)
EDSA-Estrella, Makati City, Philippines

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs594.snc3/31300_1428176496731_1002379363_1240822_6758678_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs574.snc3/31300_1428176256725_1002379363_1240821_5214460_n.jpg

^^The great wall of edsa :cheers:

^^
oo nga nu:lol::lol:

imposible makatawid yan ng moa ..pwede yan kung irerenovate nila ang taft segment at gawing elevated

e kung itaas ngt konti yung viaduct ng LRT1 tapos gawan ng flyover doon para sa kotse

Manila MetroStar Express (MRT Blue Line)
EDSA-Estrella, Makati City, Philippines

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs574.snc3/31300_1428176256725_1002379363_1240821_5214460_n.jpg

more please :cheers:

It seems that alot of the rolling stocks of Manila's railway and metro systems are donated like The MRT for example.

If they are donated, how come can they not improve some of the facilities?

^^They are waiting for more donations :lol:

^^^^

KAYA MAG-DONATE NA KAYO!!! :lol:

Mag-donate na lang tayo ng mga corrupt officials :lol:
So our MRT system will grow rapidly :okay:

About the MoA extension, why not make an elevated EDSA-Taft station while the current operations are ongoing and re-route the trains to the new station after the line is completed. If they do make that, they should also do a LRT-2 style height like that of Recto LRT-1 LRT-2 crossing so that they won't clash at the same time it won't affect vehicular traffic below.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2720/4286954943_462edcd95f.jpg

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Naka display na yung train sa Malolos ng Northrail. Riles na lang yata hinihintay nito. SUper ready na yung tren. Hahahahaha! ?0l<3!

^^Ano itsura nung trains?

5 silang magkakarugtog. coaches ba tawag dun?

post ka nang pics

e kung itaas ngt konti yung viaduct ng LRT1 tapos gawan ng flyover doon para sa kotse
^^Napakasikip na sa area ng Taft para lagyan ng Flyover. Kung baga sa babae eh sobrang virgin na yan.. :nuts::nuts:

Mag-donate na lang tayo ng mga corrupt officials :lol:
So our MRT system will grow rapidly :okay:
^^Mas magandang term dyan ay "EXPORT" :nuts::nuts:
Isakay sa container vans at i ship papuntang North Korea kapalit ng mga bagong DMU.. :nuts::nuts:
Or i ship sila sa country na walang corruption. Para ma train nila ang mga gov officials doon.. :nuts::nuts:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3649/3451548413_02014e6efe_o.jpg
^^Dapat inaalis na yang mga parapet walls na yan para makita ng sambayanan ang kagandahan ng 3G trains...

Naka display na yung train sa Malolos ng Northrail. Riles na lang yata hinihintay nito. SUper ready na yung tren. Hahahahaha! ?0l<3!
^^Panu magkakaroon ng tren doon eh wala pang nailalatag kahit isang riles?

^^Napakasikip na sa area ng Taft para lagyan ng Flyover. Kung baga sa babae eh sobrang virgin na yan.. :nuts::nuts:


Pasikip imbes pabuka (FOUL NAKO:lol:)eh noh?!!! HAHAHA.:lol::nuts: kaw ah.

Guys, tanong ko lang, sino ba ang designer ng LRT-1 na inaassign ni President Marcos?

^^sina bald daddy ang makakasagot nyan. Bata pa ako nung time na yon. :lol:

So 25 years pa bago magka revenue ang MRT? or 25 years para ma transfer sa government?

The 25-year agreement was signed in August 1997, so about 12 years na lang bagong magexpire yung agreement. So what are they planning to do once it expires in 2022?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2720/4286954943_462edcd95f.jpg

sana tayuan ito ng station natatawagin kamias! sayang kase yung taga project 2 & 3, nepa Q mart, at taga ramon magsaysay school! malaki population ng school na dapat sasakay at bababa ng mrt

is the Trinoma-bound side entrance of Balintawak Station open already? ung sa may palengke side?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2530/4077731510_e91cc5ace4.jpg

The purple line is the most beautiful of all the rail transits in Manille. However, I believe it's the most underused. Correct me.

^^True enough. But once it is extended eastward to Masinag and westward to Divisoria, there will be a dramatic surge in passenger count using the Megatren.:)

^^ However, it is the prettiest. May mga utang din siguro tong line na to.

Guys, tanong ko lang, sino ba ang designer ng LRT-1 na inaassign ni President Marcos?

AFAIK, Arch. Mañosa conceptualized the design of Metrorail (LRT1) Stations, following the Filipino style. I don't know if what we see now is the original design or has been modified due to construction costs at the time.

pero at least maraming estudyante ang nabibigyang serbisyo ng purple line ..sabi ng ate ko pag nagkasabay sabay ang uwian eh napupuno rin ang mga tren ..hindi naman siguro sya ganoon ka under used ..and it is better undersed that OVER used

^^At kahit pa ma-OVER used siya if ever, maluwag pa rin ang loob ng train. Sana lahat ng systems natin kagaya ng sa MRT2.

pero at least maraming estudyante ang nabibigyang serbisyo ng purple line ..sabi ng ate ko pag nagkasabay sabay ang uwian eh napupuno rin ang mga tren ..hindi naman siguro sya ganoon ka under used ..and it is better undersed that OVER used

May kasama pang eyecandy courtesy of the colegialas from U-Belt. :D :D

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/4620667259_02d91de793.jpg

:cheers: i love this one..
purple line is the best, cleanest and prettiest for me.....

dapat talaga yung MegaTren ang nilagay sa EDSA.

Kelan ba matatapos ang BOT scheme ng MRT-3? Para mabigay na sa government ang MRT-3 at ma-upgrade ang trains, similar to MegaTren.. mas ok pa ang operatons ng Blue and Purple Lines (currently being operated by the government through LRTA)

Hindi mo akalain na ang government pa ang maayos mag operate ng line imbes na private entity right? But it is not uncommon, even toronto's rail is operated privately and they also lack proper maintenance, and that's coming from a 1st world country.

kasi pag private, pera ang habol ..pag government, serbisyo (at kurakot) ..at least may serbisyo

kasi pag private, pera ang habol ..pag government, serbisyo (at kurakot) ..at least may serbisyo

in short kailangan talaga ng subsidy!

until now ba ay subsidized pa rin ng gov't ang Line 1?

If they are donated, how come can they not improve some of the facilities?

Its most likely because that's not on the minds of MRT. They are a "pwede na" system.

^^Ano itsura nung trains?

I saw the poster during a trip to Barasoain Church. The trains look modern kinda like the MTR West Rail.

^^At kahit pa ma-OVER used siya if ever, maluwag pa rin ang loob ng train. Sana lahat ng systems natin kagaya ng sa MRT2.

For now we can't do anything about that. But I just hope that future lines in Metro Manila will be like the purple line but better.

private companies care about THE COSTS most: bribery expense (to secure the contract), construction expense (to build the project), and operational expense (to run the company).

the government doesn't care about the cost (the higher the cost, the bigger the smile, hehe)... so malamang they'll make the project so appealing para may alibi sila kung bakit malaki ang project cost. kaya for me ok na rin ang may corruption basta maganda ang resulta.. parang bonus nalang sa kanila yun, hehe.

I don't think so that purple line is under used. When i tried once when i was in manila it was full. I think purple line is a metro transit they have bigger coaches and they have 4 car config. Means there is so much room for the passenger. Blue line is over used. Ganda nga ng purple line. daig pa nya yung aming metro.

^^ Maluwag kasi yung loob kaya parang underused. Pero compared sa LRT or MRT during peak hours mas konti talaga ang sakay.

i compare mo ba naman ang FULL METRO sa LIGHT RAIL ..talagang magmumukang overused ang light rail

^^^ ok na din yan maluwag kaysa masikip..may vision ang lrt 2 when it comes to its ridership

Napupuno rin ang MRT-2 lalo pag may pasok, sumakay ako once kasama blockmates ko, ang init grabe! Pag sunday, hayyy.. ang sarap:nuts:. Yung pagkapuno na yun, ilagay mo sa light rail lalo na sa MRT-3, por diyos por santo, sardinas na yun. lol.

mrt7 to bulacan should be like lrt2 or better

kasasakay ko lang kanina ta kahit walang pasok talagang maraming sumasakay ..ang hirap nga lang kasi may nangangamoy putok ..hahaha

^^subukan mo sumakay sa PNR pag uwian ng mga trabahador. Parang new year sa loob ng tren. Ang daming nagpapaputok. :nuts: At higit sa lahat siksikan pa!!

^^PNR needs more commuter trains like in case of MRT3.

I don't think so that purple line is under used. When i tried once when i was in manila it was full. I think purple line is a metro transit they have bigger coaches and they have 4 car config. Means there is so much room for the passenger. Blue line is over used. Ganda nga ng purple line. daig pa nya yung aming metro.

The purple line is a full metro. Its a beautiful line though I don't like the transit wrap advertisement on it. I prefer the original with that Filipino pattern and stuff.

The purple line is a full metro. Its a beautiful line though I don't like the transit wrap advertisement on it. I prefer the original with that Filipino pattern and stuff.

You can't do anything WANCH. It's another income-generating tool. :ohno:

But anyhow, it enlivens up the Purple line sometimes. Talking about diversity of course.

private companies care about THE COSTS most: bribery expense (to secure the contract), construction expense (to build the project), and operational expense (to run the company).

the government doesn't care about the cost (the higher the cost, the bigger the smile, hehe)... so malamang they'll make the project so appealing para may alibi sila kung bakit malaki ang project cost. kaya for me ok na rin ang may corruption basta maganda ang resulta.. parang bonus nalang sa kanila yun, hehe.

Noynoy will take his seat as president on the end of June. I hope that he will do his job and his goal on eradicating corruption. That means there will be no more bribery expense especially when it comes to private companies.

You can't do anything WANCH. It's another income-generating tool. :ohno:

But anyhow, it enlivens up the Purple line sometimes. Talking about diversity of course.

True but its not only in Manila where you have train wraps :)

But again its not the important issue on the purple line. The important is its a full metro enough to handle large passenger volume. 4 car config is the standard for most systems.

Little update: The 'repainting' of MRT3 stations has reached Cubao. In weeks time we'll see the repainted stations finally according to its designated color. I don't know what they'll gonna do with the Guadalupe station.

^^ nice to hear that....

I saw the poster during a trip to Barasoain Church. The trains look modern kinda like the MTR West Rail.

That's good.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4642463334_c781fc4fe2.jpg

totoo po bang bibilhin ng LRTA yung trains sa adana na kahawig ng 2G?

Where did you get that rumor?