as a traveller...

it would be nice if pal will have both domestic and international flights in T3 because a lot of passengers are taking foreign carriers inbound manila(from other countries) and it would be nice if we(passengers who do not take pal inbound) could just walk from one gate(wing/annex, whatever) to another after customs/immigration and baggage claim for our domestic flight instead of taking cabs/vans to t2 or domestic... at least thats how i would want things to be as a traveller..

Yes. And tourism is the big issue that comes out of terminal placements. It would make so much sense and convenience because after all, tourism is a big industry and boosted area.

NAIA to collect P200 security fee
By Nikko Dizon 12/14/2006

Starting January, Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) authorities will be charging passengers a P200 security fee in addition to the P550 terminal fee already in place.

Only overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) are exempted from paying the new fee, which is expected to generate some P700 million annually.

Alfonso Cusi, general manager of the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA), said that the security fee will be implemented because of the need for additional security equipment at the airport terminals.

The security fee, recently approved by the MIAA Board, will be used for the “total upgrading” of security equipment at the NAIA terminals, added Oscar Paras, MIAA senior assistant general manager, in an interview with Inquirer. This would include the purchase of new surveillance cameras and state-of-the-art X-ray machines, among others.

The security fee for international flight passengers will be imposed for at least five years, Paras said.

“The money is earmarked exclusively for the security development program of the MIAA. Under the law, the MIAA can’t spend a single centavo collected from the security fees for any other purpose outside the security program,” Paras said.

The MIAA had earlier suggested incorporating the security fee in airline tickets but airlines have expressed their reservations.

haaaaaaaaay
kawawa naman ang mga travelers
shud i get a dual citizen to save that 200 pesos

NAIA to collect P200 security fee
By Nikko Dizon 12/14/2006

Starting January, Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) authorities will be charging passengers a P200 security fee in addition to the P550 terminal fee already in place.

Only overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) are exempted from paying the new fee, which is expected to generate some P700 million annually.

Alfonso Cusi, general manager of the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA), said that the security fee will be implemented because of the need for additional security equipment at the airport terminals.

The security fee, recently approved by the MIAA Board, will be used for the “total upgrading” of security equipment at the NAIA terminals, added Oscar Paras, MIAA senior assistant general manager, in an interview with Inquirer. This would include the purchase of new surveillance cameras and state-of-the-art X-ray machines, among others.

The security fee for international flight passengers will be imposed for at least five years, Paras said.

“The money is earmarked exclusively for the security development program of the MIAA. Under the law, the MIAA can’t spend a single centavo collected from the security fees for any other purpose outside the security program,” Paras said.

The MIAA had earlier suggested incorporating the security fee in airline tickets but airlines have expressed their reservations.

This is like paying for Hassle services. Not only you waste your time going through the choking bull poo poo security procedures but you also have to pay to get hassled and harassed. What a smart way to attract more tourists.

NAIA to collect P200 security fee
By Nikko Dizon 12/14/2006

Starting January, Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) authorities will be charging passengers a P200 security fee in addition to the P550 terminal fee already in place.

Only overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) are exempted from paying the new fee, which is expected to generate some P700 million annually.



1. Will it be going towards the planned purpose, or will all of those P200s be going into people's pockets?
2. That's not fair. What if it's a Filipino citizen who's been travelling? They'd still have to pay?
3. There's that P550 and now the P200, so they better greet all arrivees in traditional Pinoy way with the classic sampaguita leis!!

This is like paying for Hassle services. Not only you waste your time going through the choking bull poo poo security procedures but you also have to pay to get hassled and harassed. What a smart way to attract more tourists.

It is really a big hassle why don't they just put it in the ticket price so that no more station come when departing just like in airports of LAX, NRT and ICN.

^^ Exactly. Include it in the fare already like it's a product or service, and so that the whole line-up process will be smoother and faster.

Government to earn P3B from
Naia-3’s 1st-year operations

By Jodeal Cadacio
Reporter

THE government stands to earn P3 billion in gross revenues from the initial year of operating the controversial Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal III (Naia-3), the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) told the House of Representatives Wednesday.

And in what can be a lucrative venture for the government, the revenues accruing from its operation of the new airport would double in six years’ time.

This came out of a meeting conducted by the House Committee on Oversight chaired by Liberal Party Rep. Danilo Suarez of Quezon, which inquired into the government’s plan to take over the airport’s operation.

Briefing the panel on the income projections for Naia-3, Florencio Montalbo, Miaa assistant general manager, said should the government make good its plan to operate the airport starting March next year, gross revenues for the initial year of operation would reach P2.97 billion.

Montalbo said this is premised on the assumption that by March 2007, Naia would be the country’s premier international airport, with Naia 1 and 2 being downgraded to domestic status.

He told the committee that even in its maiden year, the Miaa would earn income from the new airport. With total expenses for that year expected to reach P1.5 billion, the projected net income would be around PI.4 billion.

Montalbo said that for 2008, Naia-3’s gross revenues would reach P4.7 billion against expenditures totaling P2.3 billion, for a net income of P P2.4 billion.

Revenues would steadily increase to P4.9 billion in 2009, while operating expenses would remain within the P2.3-billion level, resulting in a projected income of P2.6 billion.

Gross revenues are projected to increase by P200 million annually until 2012, when income would have hit P5.6 billion.

Operating expenses are projected at P2.36 billion, for a total net income of P3.2 billion.
Montalbo told the Suarez committee that the Miaa is ready to operate the new airport as soon as the necessary repair work and refurbishment are finished.

Kabalikat ng Malayang Pilipino Rep. Consuleo Dy of Pasay City asked Montalbo to submit to the committee a certification from concerned authorities attesting to the “safety and soundness” of the new airport facility.

“Our concern here is the safety of passengers. We have to ensure that all the safety concerns have been addressed adequately,” Dy told the committee,

Montalbo assured the panel that all safety issues are being addressed to meet the government’s plan to make the new airport fully operational by March 2007.

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/eco01.php

^^ Exactly. Include it in the fare already like it's a product or service, and so that the whole line-up process will be smoother and faster.

The thing with including the fee in the airline ticket price, MIAA can't get their grubby little paws on the money as soon as they want to. :colgate:

um.

The MIAA had earlier suggested incorporating the security fee in airline tickets but airlines have expressed their reservations.

:bash:

taken from abs-cbnnews.com.. hahaha..

New airport fee put off

The Manila International Airport Authority will not be charging the P200 security fee for departing international passengers until January while it tries to determine which agency should collect it.

MIAA General Manager Alfonso Cusi told The Manila Times his agency is negotiating with airlines to include the security fee in the cost of a plane ticket. If the negotiation fails, the MIAA will likely be the one to collect the fee.

Departing passengers on international flights are already being charged a P550 terminal fee. Jonathan Hicap, The Manila Times

^crazy fool, im hoping it wont add anymore fee when naia 3 is up :no:

anyways enough with shenanegans, here are the pics ive taken of Naia 3 on myway to cebu hehehe

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/manila/IMG_2787.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/manila/IMG_2801.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/manila/IMG_2799.jpg
dont they look so clean?

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/manila/IMG_2798.jpg
although they look kind of boring, i hope the prestine cleanliness stays

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/manila/IMG_2802.jpg
btw what is that building with the fence around it

btw what is that building with the fence around it

i think that's villamor airbase..


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/manila/IMG_2802.jpg




Owww...So ginagamit na yung isang runway?^^

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/manila/IMG_2802.jpg
btw what is that building with the fence around it

That's the Presidential plane's terminal.

Owww...So ginagamit na yung isang runway?^^

There are only 2 runways at NAIA: 06-24 and 13-31. It forms a slanting letter T. Runway 06-24 is the runway used by jet planes (both international and domestic flights), its western end fronting Terminal 1 and the eastern tip ends a few meters from SLEX. Runway 13-31 is shorter that's why it is not capable of accommodating large jet planes. It is mostly used by smaller jets (a B737 the most) and the "tutubis" or small propeller-powered private planes. The airside of T2 and T3 faces this runway. Planes coming from and going to T2 & T3 for take-off or parking use the taxiways parallel to runway 13-31 before entering or after exiting runway 06-24.

Both runways are in use ever since. It just happened that T2 & T3 are located along runway 13-31 which is mostly used by local flights.

By the way, runway ID's are based on the bearing of its directional headings with respect to North: 06-24 means 60 degrees (the plane's heading is 60 deg as it lands or takes-off), and 240 degrees if it uses the opposite direction. 13-31 is 130 and 310 degrees.

i know^^..but the last time i used naia, Cebu Pacific used the main runway, the one beside T1. it taxied from MDA all the way to T1 area..

i guess that secondary runway had been closed for a while..

i should have stated it this way "ginagamit na uli"... :okay:

i know^^..but the last time i used naia, Cebu Pacific used the main runway, the one beside T1. it taxied from MDA all the way to T1 area..


True. Runway 13-31 is sometimes used as taxiway if there are no planes landing or taking-off the runway. Pilots however don't have the liberty to choose their route towards 06-24. The tower ATC has to give the clearance to use runway 13-31 as taxiway.

hasnt it undergone retofiting? i saw people at work there...

hasnt it undergone retofiting? i saw people at work there...

I have no idea actually. It could be a regular maintenance work which happens all the time especially during the rainy season where asphalt overlays tend to wear out.

OT, but ang ganda ng makati d2..
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/manila/IMG_2802.jpg

There are only 2 runways at NAIA: 06-24 and 13-31. It forms a slanting letter T. Runway 06-24 is the runway used by jet planes (both international and domestic flights), its western end fronting Terminal 1 and the eastern tip ends a few meters from SLEX. Runway 13-31 is shorter that's why it is not capable of accommodating large jet planes. It is mostly used by smaller jets (a B737 the most) and the "tutubis" or small propeller-powered private planes. The airside of T2 and T3 faces this runway. Planes coming from and going to T2 & T3 for take-off or parking use the taxiways parallel to runway 13-31 before entering or after exiting runway 06-24.

Both runways are in use ever since. It just happened that T2 & T3 are located along runway 13-31 which is mostly used by local flights.

By the way, runway ID's are based on the bearing of its directional headings with respect to North: 06-24 means 60 degrees (the plane's heading is 60 deg as it lands or takes-off), and 240 degrees if it uses the opposite direction. 13-31 is 130 and 310 degrees.

galing, alam na alam
That's the Presidential plane's terminal.

madali pa la syang targetin pag aalis, alam na ng mga terorist satin sang part ng airport makikita ang presidente :lol: . meron din bang decoy ang eroplano nya, katulad ni bush dito sa ta'te

madali pa la syang targetin pag aalis, alam na ng mga terorist satin sang part ng airport makikita ang presidente :lol: . meron din bang decoy ang eroplano nya, katulad ni bush dito sa ta'te

Hindi nga makabili ng pampalit sa luma... :lol:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/manila/IMG_2802.jpg
[/RIGHT]

Mukang maganda naman sya...

Hindi nga makabili ng pampalit sa luma... :lol:

off topic: hindi mo pa nilalagay yun pics mo dun sa foto album, tinatakasan mo si Lili noh :lol:

bakit!ilan ba ang runway nang ninoy airport,bali isa lang hah.. check ninyu sa googles earth para makita kung ilan ang runway.. pa cross ang runway nang ninoy airport:bash:

kaya nga hndi pwde sabay ang mga eroplano lumipad eh....heheehehee

off topic: hindi mo pa nilalagay yun pics mo dun sa foto album, tinatakasan mo si Lili noh :lol:

Aysus! Kala ko kuntento na kayo sa avatar ko :). Sige na nga, mamya pag-uwi ko try ko i-post sa Photo Album thread....

bakit!ilan ba ang runway nang ninoy airport,bali isa lang hah.. check ninyu sa googles earth para makita kung ilan ang runway.. pa cross ang runway nang ninoy airport:bash:

You just stated it. Pa-cross ang runways ng NAIA, ibig sabihin dalawang “line segments”. Eh di dalawang runway. Read post #226.

kaya nga hndi pwde sabay ang mga eroplano lumipad eh....heheehehee

Even if there are 2 runways, it is highly improbable for 2 planes to take-off from each runway at the same time. There are air traffic restrictions since a plane taking off might get in the way of the other plane at the other runway.

For planes taking off on the same runways, it is a must that the first plane to take-off already reached the end of the runway or had already made a turn out of the runway’s heading where it took off or reached the required altitude before another clearance for take-off is given to the next plane. More restrictions apply for planes taking off from a bisecting runway.

Imagine this: What if the plane that had just took-off suddenly aborted its take-off because of mechanical problem and had to make a quick landing again while another plane was prematurely cleared for take-off? A major collision on the runway is not a nice scenario. :ohno:

Here's another one for bisecting runways naman: What if a plane on the bisecting runway was given a premature clearance for take-off while another plane had just took off from the other runway, there is a possibility that they will clash mid-air above the runways’ intersection. Not a good scenario even. :no:

maybe two runways physically but not functionally, because one runway is deemed nonfunctional in any given time.

Korek ka dyan MarkiiBoi. :)

The two runways makes it ever so slight faster to launch a series of planes. They still need the towers direction of course but I understand the average plane movement (takeoff or landing) is every 2 minutes or something like it. The two runways can interlap their every two minutes bringing the total capacity of airplane movements in the whole airport higher. Of course the shorter runway will have more if not mostly civil aviation so mas mabilis sila .

From what I remember being posted here, 13/31 was closed to have upgrades so that it can be extensively used for lcc/narrowbody type traffic so they'll have short taxi times. It's already being used by narrowbodies before but I guess they expanded the taxiways or something like that, so that the big birds can go to T3 and the little birds can go to T2/Domestic at the same time using different taxiways.

If I recall twenty years ago, there was a plan to construct a taxiway for 13/31 on the side occupied by T2 and the domestic terminals, which would require a significant part of Nayon Pilipino to be destroyed (I think this is the rice fields). I do not know what has happened to this plan, given that the Philippine Village Hotel is non-operational.

An Idle Airport
The opening of NAIA’S Terminal 3
has been postponed for four years

http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1881/naia3dryenmm4.jpg

ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED to open in 2002, the Ninoy Aquino International Airport-Terminal 3 (NAIA-3) may finally open next year. The 189,000-square-meter facility was nearly completed several years back, but legal disputes between the government and project concessionaire PIATCO over the Build-Operate-Transfer (BOT) contract continued to delay final completion and opening of the terminal.

Citing irregularities in the contract, President Arroyo eventually voided the concession agreement with PIATCO. The Supreme Court upheld the contract annulment, but allowed the government to take over the terminal only after paying just compensation to PIATCO. The Supreme Court ordered the government to pay PIATCO P3 billion in December last year. But the government alleged that the amount demanded by PIATCO was bloated. The compensation issue is pending with the International Center for Settlement of Investment Disputes in Washington.

There have been reports that the cash strapped administration has agreed to let the Lucio Tan-led Asia’s Emerging Dragon Corp. (AEDC), which submitted the original proposal to build NAIA 3, take over the project. The AEDC claims that the voiding of PIATCO’s contract automatically gave it the rights to the terminal as the original proponent. There has been no formal award of contract to AEDC, though.

Finally, an investigation into the collapse of a 100-square-meter area of the terminal’s ceiling may delay the terminal’s opening. All test runs of NAIA-3 have been suspended until completion of the inquiry. Malacañang puts the earliest opening date of NAIA-3 at mid-2007, at which point it will assume the operations of Terminal 1.

Finally, an investigation into the collapse of a 100-square-meter area of the terminal’s ceiling may delay the terminal’s opening. All test runs of NAIA-3 have been suspended until completion of the inquiry. Malacañang puts the earliest opening date of NAIA-3 at mid-2007, at which point it will assume the operations of Terminal 1.

So the opening has been pushed back again? Now it's mid-2007! :gaah:

^^ .... syempre election, magpapapogi points... kapag masyado maaga baka makalimutan ng botante ... maganda medyo may konting pa cute sa camera at newspapers for May 2007... :) ... di ka na nasanay ... :)

Change the name! Maybe that will cause things to finally move forward!

Rename it to Gloria Macapagal - Arroyo International Airport (GMAIA) :jk:

Or much worse, Manny Pacquiao International Airport! :jk:

^^ Just revert if back to Manila International Airport. I don't get why it's so prevalent in the Philippines to name/memorialize structures after people, that in some cases don't even deserve the recognition.

^^ Just revert if back to Manila International Airport. I don't get why it's so prevalent in the Philippines to name/memorialize structures after people, that in some cases don't even deserve the recognition.


Are you saying Ninoy Aquino is undeserving? And what do you mean prevalent in the Philippines? How about JFK Airport in US?

It was always MIA in general. It's also simpler because of the metropolis its in.

Ninoy Aquino was martyred in that very airport. Bestowing Ninoy's name upon the NAIA is an honor.

if it is to be named after somebody, it should be Rizal.

I would rather have it indicative of the location it's serving.

if it is to be named after somebody, it should be Rizal.

And why? he has no connection to any history in Philippine Aviation or any incident event related to aviation or the airport like Ninoy


I would rather have it indicative of the location it's serving.
You there are many airports in the world that named after a famous person related to their history or contribution to aviation industry like Ted Stevens of Alaska, Tom Bradley of LAX, Sokeoarno-Hatta Int'l of CGK and Kingsford Smith in SYD.

at least pinoy na pinoy ang sound ng ninoy Aquino airport. Buti na lang hindi naging Ferdinand Marcos Inter airport. Like benito ?zuares airport, don muang? airport.
I also like Diosdado Macapagal airport pinoy sounding talaga I'm sure foreigners will have a hard time trying to pronounce that.

sorry for being out of topic ----forumers based in manila have you tried going to krispy kreame? i read in the internet news that krispy kreame just open an outlet at mega mall. any of you been there to check it out?

^wasnt that in bgc

^^A new store opened in Megamall.

@cruizer: It's good. Try the originally glazed donuts. That's their specialty.

ahah dont eat 4 within the hour tho, cuz itll make you feel like crap... trust me i just woke up from a KK hangover...

i heard more outlets will open soon, but just in the metro manila area. i think krispy kreame only have franchises in 3 countries outside the u.s?

hey everyone i'm new.

^^ are there any plans of KK branching out of the metro? like going south in cebu or davao or north like in baguio?

and is it really sure na the airport will REALLy open next year? hopefully naman. it's hard to drool forever on having an airport like that of bangkok or kl and changi. sana election na.lol

Do you guys want to start a KRispy kreme thread?

Yah a krispy kreme thread wud be nice. Im still floating in KK heaven after having just downed a doz of those sinfully delicious orignal glazed in 1 sitting and washing it down with fresh melon juiceee. So addicting!!

^ok i'll start a thread for you in SAmahan.

can someone take a picture of the krispy kreame at mega mall.

^this thread became so off topic LOL

ang kulit nitong si cruizer naliligaw ata. Naia 3 ito.

Have you heard of the defects of the new Suvarnabhumi Airport?

^^ No I have not. Someone please share the issue with us.

^^Off topic either, hehe. Anyway, here's a link to the SSC thread.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=423951

The Airlines, Airplanes, and Airports thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=419791) might be the appropriate thread in the Philippine Forums. :)

question...... if T3 was designed as an international terminal.., why is there a sign inside for domestic?
btw... i found this pic somewhere... luma na to.. nakita ko na din to dati.., ngayon ko lang napansin.


http://203.160.187.198/miaa/T3/images/LEVEL2/BAGGAGECLAIM/Photo1.jpg

^^are you sure this is naia t3, doesn't look like it but i'm not sure. i may not remember it correctly.

That's NAIA3, you could see it's distinctive yellow tables. It's been posted on many threads with NAIA3 involved.

Maybe the "Domestic Flights" sign could be pointing to a "Transfer Desk" located with in T3, much like the airports here in the US when coming from an overseas flight (non-US carrier) and transfering to the domestic leg of one's journey.

teka, kung mapapansin nyo,

EXIT --> DOMESTIC FLIGHTS -->

baka dapat, EXIT TO DOMESTIC FLIGHTS -->

ibig sabihin "lumabas ng terminal at lakarin papuntang domestic terminal"... :lol: hahahaha... weird. wala lang.. :lol:

^^ That could be it! :lol:

question...... if T3 was designed as an international terminal.., why is there a sign inside for domestic?
btw... i found this pic somewhere... luma na to.. nakita ko na din to dati.., ngayon ko lang napansin.


http://203.160.187.198/miaa/T3/images/LEVEL2/BAGGAGECLAIM/Photo1.jpg

theres no tagalog translation on the sign! what happens to a passenger that only understands tagalog? :lol:

^^ Got a certain forumer in mind? :lol:

Maybe the "Domestic Flights" sign could be pointing to a "Transfer Desk" located with in T3, much like the airports here in the US when coming from an overseas flight (non-US carrier) and transfering to the domestic leg of one's journey.

Yeah I agree. Or it could be that the To domestic flight sign is pointing towards a bus gate which hopefully will bring the passengers to different terminals.

But what's sad is, sobrang old na terminal 1 and 2 way back including the domestic terminal, wala man lang regular shuttle service na establish ang MIAA. Can you imagine? Transfer passengers ---> transit locally at your own risk, Although I know some airlines like PAL and 5J have...

teka, kung mapapansin nyo,

EXIT --> DOMESTIC FLIGHTS -->

baka dapat, EXIT TO DOMESTIC FLIGHTS -->

ibig sabihin "lumabas ng terminal at lakarin papuntang domestic terminal"... :lol: hahahaha... weird. wala lang.. :lol:

DOMESTIC FLIGHTS signage may be a booking, flight information or transfer desk within Terminal 3.

The signs could therefore mean that the location of EXIT and DOMESTIC FLIGHT "desk" are on the same heading/direction from the signage viewer's viewpoint.

Airport steps up bird flu campaign

Manila International Airport Authority has intensified its campaign against bird flu, which has killed 150 in China and neighboring Asian countries.

MIAA general manager Alfonso Cusi issued a memorandum order following the recent outbreak in Indonesia where authorities bared the death of a 35-year-old female.

“The Ministry of Health of Indonesia has confirmed the country’s 57th death from H6NI or avian influenza,” said Cusi, urging strict monitoring of arriving passengers.

He said the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminals 1 and 2 would use thermal scanning and foot bath to prevent the entry of the virus.

Under the directive, Cusi said medical staff of the Bureau of Quarantine would be posted at the arrival area to ensure the government’s guidelines are strictly enforced.

The World Health Organization has reported 258 cases of bird flu with 154 confirmed fatalities.

Have you heard of the defects of the new Suvarnabhumi Airport?

ano daw, baka madaming tha-i :lol:
corny ok what happend to that erport

^^ It had lots of structural defects.

Yeah. So what would you pick, a delayed NAIA 3 opening or a rush NAIA 3 opening with lots of structural defects? I'd choose the point between :D

^^ The funny thing is that T3 is a good example of both. Structural defects (remember the collapsed ceiling?) shows that it was hastily done, and the fact that it's embroiled in a tug-of-war case right now is the main factor for its much delayed and long overdue opening. :colgate:

@Jhaelnis, @kiretoce : Di bale nang delayed, basta maayos ang pagkakagawa. I could almost visualize the thought of having billions of pesos going up in smoke or collapsing to rubble! Simbako!:ohno:

Terminal 3 Takes Off

In March of 2007 the beleaguered and belated Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Terminal 3 is finally projected to assume its intended function as the country’s premier international gateway, with the overburdened NAIA Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 being downgraded to domestic status. The Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) has assured concerned parties that it is ready to operate the new airport as soon as the necessary repairs and finishing touches are completed and all safety issues are addressed. Foreign firms Ove Arup, Gleads, and TCGI have been carrying out a structural integrity, safety and operability, and valuation assessment of the terminal. President Macapagal-Arroyo herself recently led an inspection of the facility to check if the targeted opening is feasible.

One to two yet-to-be-determined airlines are expected to participate in the initial roll-out which is hoped to then smoothly progress to full commercial operations by all the international carriers. Philippine Airlines (PAL) has agreed to the transfer from its current set-up at NAIA Terminal 2 on the condition that the MIAA allows them to operate both its international and domestic operations in the new terminal. Other airlines have shown disapproval for this biased arrangement but the flag carrier’s commercial clout is vital for the running of the facility.

The opening of the new terminal is hoped to at last present a relatively more modern image of the Philippines to travelers flying in and out of Manila, giving a boost to tourism, trade, and the country’s attractiveness to foreign investors and businessmen.

maybe the sign "domestic flights" is for the outside trabsfer to the domestic airport?

any update to this airport btw?

I believe Terminal 3 is also capable of handling domestic flights. PAL itself wants to transfer both international and domestic operations to Terminal 3, if the terminal can't handle it, PAL won't give off such demands.

sana hindi naman ma-usog tapos bubuksan naman daw sa march 2008 :lol:

march 2008? i hope so. we havent heard any news regarding this terminal airport.

Dapat sinama nila ang "Eksit" at "Domestik Plites". Exit is a very common word in the Philippines. They don't really need a translation.

^^ :lol: But wouldn't the word "labasan" be more appropriate if they really wanted to use the national language? :okay:

:D Yeah. But like I said. I don't know a single Filipino who doesn't know the word exit. :lol: Pero, puede rin. :D

^^ :lol: But wouldn't the word "labasan" be more appropriate if they really wanted to use the national language? :okay:

labasan is such a nasty word. i rather would wanna read, eksit

I believe Terminal 3 is also capable of handling domestic flights. PAL itself wants to transfer both international and domestic operations to Terminal 3, if the terminal can't handle it, PAL won't give off such demands.

well, in the case of T2, it was purely designed for domestic. then they insisted on putting both their intl and regional flights in T2. Ayun, super sikip na "immigration" section ang lumabas sa T2 north wing. Tsk tsk.

did they put 0 instead of 1 before the 7 in 2007? maybe its really 2017!

wth? why bother building it then!? I think its 2007.

Terminal 3 Takes Off

In March of 2007 the beleaguered and belated Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Terminal 3 is finally projected to assume its intended function as the country’s premier international gateway, with the overburdened NAIA Terminal 1 and Terminal 2 being downgraded to domestic status. The Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) has assured concerned parties that it is ready to operate the new airport as soon as the necessary repairs and finishing touches are completed and all safety issues are addressed. Foreign firms Ove Arup, Gleads, and TCGI have been carrying out a structural integrity, safety and operability, and valuation assessment of the terminal. President Macapagal-Arroyo herself recently led an inspection of the facility to check if the targeted opening is feasible.

One to two yet-to-be-determined airlines are expected to participate in the initial roll-out which is hoped to then smoothly progress to full commercial operations by all the international carriers. Philippine Airlines (PAL) has agreed to the transfer from its current set-up at NAIA Terminal 2 on the condition that the MIAA allows them to operate both its international and domestic operations in the new terminal. Other airlines have shown disapproval for this biased arrangement but the flag carrier’s commercial clout is vital for the running of the facility.

The opening of the new terminal is hoped to at last present a relatively more modern image of the Philippines to travelers flying in and out of Manila, giving a boost to tourism, trade, and the country’s attractiveness to foreign investors and businessmen.

ooooh my gawwd. finally. :nuts: so PAL are operating the whole kit and kaboodle in there; so what's going to happen to T2? the other domestics?

hehe. baka nga 2017 talaga.lol

wala na, inaamag na yun sa 2017:lol:

labasan is such a nasty word. i rather would wanna read, eksit

:lol: :lol:

Depends how you pronounce it I guess.

labasan is such a nasty word. i rather would wanna read, eksit

but that is the filipino translation of "Exit"

"Labasan" is better than borrowed word "Eksit"

Immigration officers always have attitude problems. They feel they're god or something cause they can make you miss your flight. They never smile . Good for luli.
Everyone just has their own preferences what looks good. I personally like the Malaysian airport better than Changi or the thai airport.

Yes, I agree with you. Of all the airports that I had been: HK, Changi, Bali, Don Muang, LAX, Oakland, Capetown, Johannesburg, Schipol, Detroit and KLIA, I like the KLIA very much.

it's beautiful isnt it!

:lol: :lol:

Depends how you pronounce it I guess.

labasan is a nasty word? haha. Can someone tell me what it means in another Filipino language?

wala na, inaamag na yun sa 2017:lol:

at least yung mga bacteria meron silang bagong airport.

New year, new hope for the opening of NAIA III.

I think the local markets are hankering, just yearning for sustained economic boost for this coming year, and the opening of this terminal holds not only financial, but symbolic promise of stability and progress.

Personally, I also think that if and when the NAIA 3 opens, that it will be more than just an opening but it will be a marker in terms of where we stand concerning stability, development and progress.

wala pa rin updates... 2 months to go na lng before the expected March opening.

im hoping that it really does open.. cuz i might be able to see it when i pick up my parents on their flight in mid march.. hopefully no news means that we'll be surprised that it will open in march.. unlike last year with all the press releases..

O eto.. may press release, mas realistic pa,...


Airport terminal’s opening on hold again
By Vito Barcelo
01/03/2007

The Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal-3 needs $8 million for repairs to ensure its opening in the first quarter.

General manager Alfonso Cusi of the Manila International Airport Authority told reporters yesterday that the amount was needed to repair the collapsed ceiling which aborted the facility’s soft kick-off last year.

Still to be completed are the roads, connecting lanes, security systems, communication network, air-conditioning system, among other project specifications.

With a March target, Takenaka Corp., the Japanese contractor of the Philippine International Air Terminals Co. and MIAA, has yet to make a move with the parties and still unable to finalize the work contract.

“We might find another contractor should Takenaka continue to fail to comprehend our new procedures and course of action,” said Cusi, expressing optimism that the terminal’s launch has been set.

Toward the close of 2006, Cusi and his officials assured the Philippine Airlines management that they can make their inaugural flight at the terminal which was designed to serve at least 15 million passengers a year.

^^ Why am I not surprised? :ohno:

Everytime they say 8million at least 4 million is for kick backs. :ohno:
curse these overpricing overbloating officials.

WOW, just WOW, the extent of this projects failure is mind boggling!!!!!!!! and its inability to open for the service of the publics speaks volumes about what can happen if things go wrong in our country and how unpatriotic some if its citizens are (The Filipinos involved in constructing this structure).

By May ba, makakalipat na sa T3 yung ibang airlines esp. NWA?

the news says, late this year, all the airlines will have moved to T3. April 1 will just be a roll out.

X-ray machines used, misused by agencies

Manila International Airport Authority has acquired four new x-ray machines as part of the airport’s program to upgrade its security system while 10 new big x-ray machines bought by the Bureau of Customs worth P1.9 billion remain idle and inoperable.

MIAA assistant general manager for security Angelo Atutubo said the new x-ray machines were meant to reduce human intervention and increase screening efficiency at the airport’s security checkpoints.

He said the new x-ray machines, priced at more than P3 million each, would be stationed at the departure and arrival areas of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal-1.

Meanwhile, the 10 x-ray units purchased under a loan agreement with China have been collecting dust in a warehouse at the Port of Manila.

The units arrived October last year and were presented to the media by Customs Commissioner Napoleon Morales and representatives from Beijing but they have since remained unused.

Prior to the loan agreement with China on the 10 x-ray machines, the AS&E Corp., an American consortium, submitted an offer to President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo through former Customs Commissioner Antonio Bernardo to supply the scanning requirements of the bureau under a lease operate transfer scheme with no cash-out for the Philippine government.

AS&E president Albert Tan II said the machines could help reduce the threat of terrorism and solve the perennial problem of smuggling.

The same machines which would be turned over to the government after 24 years are currently models being used to secure the Whitehouse, Pentagon, United States Airforce and other similar vital agencies and installations of other countries.

Haha. By the time NAIA-3 finally opens, Clark International is now the new home base of PAL and Cebu Pacific!

Yet another delay. Anyway, isn't $8 million a little too expensive to repair a small portion of the terminal? Isn't the planned new Clark terminal worth only P1 billion? Are they building a smaller terminal inside a terminal? :no:

according to Business World, June this year can be considered for the soft opening..:(

what??? delay na naman? june na? then when june is approaching sasabihin end of this year and so and so forth.:bash:

Lots of press releases is bad news. Silence is good news ;)

except for most of the economic news...:)

:bash: :bash: :bash:

well another false dawn. soft opening my ass.

Oh, c'mon... IT"S ALL INCONSISTENT! One article said it's on March, another late 1st quarter, another tells early 2nd quarter, others say on hold, now JUNE! DAMN! Let's just shut our damn mouths and wait to be surprised! Our constant grieving and priping will just keep on jynxing it... and like it's gonna help it open...

actually it's one miaa official who considers june soft opening..

Maybe if we don't pay attention or care anymore, then the terminal will open naturally. :)

^^

It's an airport, not a kuliti! :D

Maybe if we don't pay attention or care anymore, then the terminal will open naturally. :)

Maybe if we lock this thread and ignore the lonely NAIA 3, then it would open! :lol: :jk:

:lol:

lock it then...:jk:

^^ Better because everytime I or other people who are so willing to check for updates check out this thread when there is a new post posted, it's just a little bit annoying when we would just see griping posts... what a waste of time from our part...

Damn! just damn it! looks like the Iloilo and Bacolod Airport which both are still under construction would operate earlier than that f*cked up NAIA T3!!! :ohno:

on the bright side... it will open this year :lol:

^^ Or the next....or the year after that....and so on, and so forth. :hahaha:

baka 2017 na nga talaga bubuksan yan

yea i beleive we'll have to wait for another horrid decade for that f*cking airport to open. nakakaasar ang gobyerno no?

^^ You see, these past three posts is what I'm talking about... and my dsl is getting slower so I wasted 25 mins. just to see these gripings... such a waste for my part and those who are suffering a dsl slowdown or using dial-up connections at least... Akala ko pa naman updates o mature or intelligent comments and opinions pero yun pala walang silbing griping... kala nyo nakakatulong kayo? Sorry but this is really getting on my nerve...

i think it's everyone's right and in their discretion to post in here. So long as the discussions dont go beyond the topic, that's fine i guess. Just dont spam. Besides, is there a rule here saying we are alowed to post only updates and press releases? I've reviewed your previous posts on this thread. The mere fact that you know that posts here are irrelevant (for you), why make some effort and waste your 25 minutes? Peace...

i think it's everyone's right and in their discretion to post in here. So long as the discussions dont go beyond the topic, that's fine i guess. Just dont spam. Besides, is there a rule here saying we are alowed to post only updates and press releases? I've reviewed your previous posts on this thread. The mere fact that you know that posts here are irrelevant (for you), why make some effort and waste your 25 minutes? Peace...

I MAKE AN EFFORT TO CONSTANTLY CHECK OUT THIS THREAD BECAUSE unlike mose of the people here, I hope that NAIA Terminal 3 would open and wish to know it here because SSC is already part of my life and wish to be updated here... that's all I waish... updates... and updates are not irrelevant unlike gripings... before, it's all about updates or informed opinions but now just pure empty gripings... which is quite sad becuase filling a thread with empty posts is nothing if you would ask me

^^ You see, these past three posts is what I'm talking about... and my dsl is getting slower so I wasted 25 mins. just to see these gripings... such a waste for my part and those who are suffering a dsl slowdown or using dial-up connections at least... Akala ko pa naman updates o mature or intelligent comments and opinions pero yun pala walang silbing griping... kala nyo nakakatulong kayo? Sorry but this is really getting on my nerve...

It isn't ours, or anyone's fault but your own if your DSL is slow. Talk about griping, you're doing the same thing, take responsibility for your own and stop blaming the people here for your internet issues. Plus, I'm sure you have other outside sources to get more information about T3 aside from this site, why don't you put them to good use and stay out of SSC if you can't handle what goes on here.

before, it's all about updates or informed opinions but now just pure empty gripings... which is quite sad becuase filling a thread with empty posts is nothing if you would ask me

Well....no one's asking.

... stay out of SSC if you can't handle what goes on here.

VEry well then... fine... ok...

^^ Good riddance! Have a nice life! :wave: I'm very sure you won't be missed here. :goodbye:

cool it now guys. These are beyond the matter now..:D Back to topic..:)

^^ I'm cool as a cucumber! :cucumber: No skin off my back! :colgate:

tagal na nyang reklamo yan, di pa siya nasanay

Geesh stop fighting guys...its a new year...ok ok i will open it...where are my keys..:lol:

lets just wait & see i remember PAL sot of did the same to people here gessing Boeing vs Airbus....eventually its surprised us with them going Boeing but the after a long wait they eventually made an announcement....

this thread is not always gonna have information everyday/night...there's other sources than this for that...but this thread is for people who love aviation/aviation industry etc......'''get my drip?..

so i dont see anything annoying about those posts...peace

any updates on naia3 interchange?

^^ dipa tapos, and 24 hrs heavy ang traffic in that area...

does anybody have the schedule for naia 1 & 2? the times for arriving and departing international flights?

One thing though, when this thread goes beyond 500 posts and the NAIA 3 hasn't been opened yet, then it does not deserve thread 10, so don't make one! ;)

does anybody have the schedule for naia 1 & 2? the times for arriving and departing international flights?

I don't think there is... NAIA doesn't even have their own website.. if I'm not mistaken...

i think there shouldn't be a naia thread until it opens.
maybe it jinxes it.

^yeah, I'm having the same feelings too...

About the schedule..there's a number wherein you can just text the flight...and it will reply automatically the departure or arrival...I just forgot the number and I don't know if that still exist.

About NAIA 3...it's a complicated matter with politics..power..and control..plus interest of Lucio Tan....hindi na alam ni GMA gagawin...she told me....duh

About the schedule..there's a number wherein you can just text the flight...and it will reply automatically the departure or arrival...I just forgot the number and I don't know if that still exist.

About NAIA 3...it's a complicated matter with politics..power..and control..plus interest of Lucio Tan....hindi na alam ni GMA gagawin...she told me....duh


kawawang potot. She inherited this mess from erap; tapos, some of her decisions were not good either. Foreigners are simply amazed how good we are at shooting our own feet.

never ending delays ha?

Cool, and don't forget what they'll do to Clark once NAIA is finished...

I think if this thread is jinxing NAIA 3 we shouldn't talk about Clark/DMIA either. I mean, we're lucky enough that it's operating. But if we start talking about it, they might never start work on it. Hehe.

(and anyway-- to those who complain about useless gripes, griping makes us feel good. too bad if your crabbiness can't see the lighter side of life in the Philippines. so sorry you have a sour outlook on life--- no wonder you can't stand "politics" when your politics are about shutting down other's politics. i hope you don't suffer a nervous breakdown by the time you turn 20).

^^ I can't help but flash a wide smile at that statement Mike. :colgate:

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

This site has actually been my tool for venting and griping at the sometimes and more than usual inefficiencies of the Phil bureaucratic system.
Thank god . . And i even control myself. :colgate:

Jamaicus once in a while try not to be too serious. That's not meant to be offensive. Coming from me that's a long stretch.

Sometimes things happen when you don't expect it. So if we stop talking about Naia 3 then that'll be the day it opens.

^^totally out of topic, and im not sure if u've been asked b4, but is that your pic in ur avatar crappypants?

opening it in 2017 is not worth it...

^ Let me answer. It's a no. Crappypants is marites4, and marites 4 is a woman, so crappypants is a woman :D

opening it in 2017 is not worth it...

I trust in our president and I know that the she knows that the opening of the NAIA-3 is essential for further development so I am looking forward that the NAIA-3 would open within the president's term :yes:

let's not give up on GMA. i mean behind her pettiness lies something firm and a belief that after all T3 will open soon.... errr i guess.lol

but on second thought, i won't believe T3 will open this year until i can see it operational.

and yea i like griping. and if they can't handle that, i don't even care.

^^totally out of topic, and im not sure if u've been asked b4, but is that your pic in ur avatar crappypants?

why are you single?

^ Let me answer. It's a no. Crappypants is marites4, and marites 4 is a woman, so crappypants is a woman :D

I don't know what this dude is talking about.
I hope Naia 3 opens soon.


uuuhh by the way are you single? :sly:

I don't know what this dude is talking about.
I hope Naia 3 opens soon.


uuuhh by the way are you single? :sly:

lol

let's wish for world peace na lang than wish T3 to open.

I know the government mentioned something like end of March this year...any updates or postponement?

why are you single?

haha nahh, its just, that pic resembles someone I know and he's not Filipino he's actually Chillean...jus askin that's all...what's up with the "dual personality" nways? Schizophrenic phase?! :lol: :lol:

this thread is becoming to be like the propose tallest building in the philippines, the skycity thread. im not going to post anything here anymore till the terminal is open. the difference between skycity and t-3, is t-3 is already build, skycity only a big hole. so the chances are bigger that t-3 will open someday? skycity is dead for good.. we should make an official ceremony of burying the skycity thread. show of respect for a good try in trying to build the tallest building in the philippines.

is there actually a "skycity Thread" ??? Dont remember any..





oh, this thread has suddenly brought back to life. :lol:

Sana nga at magbukas na ito.

is there actually a "skycity Thread" ??? Dont remember any..





oh, this thread has suddenly brought back to life. :lol:

Yeah, we have one in the Projects on the Rise subforum ;)

Since everything is uncertain yet, pics nalang muna...:D

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o157/francisxavier9501/naia4hehe.jpg


http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o157/francisxavier9501/naia32.jpg


http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o157/francisxavier9501/naia3.jpg

from Pbase

6 GOVERNMENT INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS FOR THE YEAR 2007...

1.NAIA T3, schedule to start operations this year. A project including a 13 lane runway is 98% completed. expected to operate this MARCH 2007

2.expansion of the passenger terminal at the DIOSDADO MACAPAGAL INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT... to be completed this december, total cost 150million pesos

3.extension of STAR 2 expressway from lipa to batangas city..target completion= december 2007, cost 1.5billion, excludes the 1billion for right of way.


4.construction of the subic-clark-tarlac expressway.
cost= 21billion
target completion= november 07


5.modernization of the subic container port with the construction of 2terminals. to be finish mid of this year.


6. rehabilitation of EDSA. includes construction of footbridges, loading and unloading bay, improvement of sidewalks and tunnel.
cost unknown


from: philippine daily inquirer jan.22

does the rehabilitation of EDSA include asphalt overlaying end to end?

i took cebu pacific for the first time the other day sooo i took some pics of naia t3...

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5488/airportscenes0493wl.jpg

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8929/airportscenes0504ke.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1523/airportscenes0528mu.jpg

i have more but its kinda useless since they all look the same..

13 lane runway? WTH?! :lol: Baka rehabilitation of runway 13/31 ang ibig sabihin. Sana ayos-ayusin ang mga post. Di yung naeexcite masyado at puro error ang mga info.

:bash: 13 lane runway? WTH?! :lol: Baka rehabilitation of runway 13/31 ang ibig sabihin. Sana ayos-ayusin ang mga post. Di yung naeexcite masyado at puro error ang mga info.

thats what i saw on broadsheet...........walang dagdag walang kulang.....gusto mo magreklamo punta ka sa editor.....:ohno: :nuts:

nakupow! ako na naman ata may kasalanan..:D

kinna depressing to see pics of this terminal. have anyone heard any new about it?

Impossible nga yung 13 runway..

e dun nga daw kasi kayo mag reklamo sa editor ng INQ.

too much for that.. common sense nalang.. :)

does the rehabilitation of EDSA include asphalt overlaying end to end?

malabo yan, semento talaga gusto nila gamitin, ang pangit naman... only the portion of pasay road to ayala ang asphalted

they should make Edsa seamless. ang pangit patsha patsha.

they should make Edsa seamless. ang pangit patsha patsha.

Agree. Only yung Makati portion ang maayos, pero Magallanes to Ayala lang din!

Sana pati yung sa ibaba ng Skyway tapusin na rin nila. Ewan ko kung napapansin niyo yung sign sa South Expressway before yung on-ramp ng Magallanes interchange na nakalagay "Skyway Grade Section ends here". Hello!!! Kailan kaya nila balak i-extend yung Grade section na yan!

Since everything is uncertain yet, pics nalang muna...:D

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o157/francisxavier9501/naia4hehe.jpg


http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o157/francisxavier9501/naia32.jpg


http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o157/francisxavier9501/naia3.jpg

from Pbase
nice find

I'm visiting shrines everyday for this terminal to open, and praying every night too!

rehab... of EDSA should IMO ayusin ng sersoyo talaga. cuz since i was still living in MM grabe ang traffic sa EDSA. dahil sa traffic, ang daming taong sumasakay sa MRT. siksikan naman ang problema. >.>

NAIA airport fees increased to P750

MANILA - International air travelers will have to pay P200 or $3.50 more in airport fees beginning January, Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) general manager Alfonso Cusi said recently.

Cusi said the additional collection will represent "security and development" charge. The new fees will be in addition to the current P550 "passenger service charge" or terminal fee. This means departing international passengers will have to pay a total of P750 each in "airport user's fee."

Cusi said they will still have to discuss when to exactly begin collecting the “security fee.” He stressed it will definitely be after Jan. 1.

“We’re still choosing a date when to start collecting the fee. So far, we don’t have a date yet," Cusi told The STAR.

He pointed out that MIAA had satisfied all the administrative and procedural requirements needed to start the collection of additional fees.

He said the decision had been subjected to public hearings and that it was in coordination with the Civil Aeronautics Board (CAB) and even with the Office of the Solicitor General (OSG).

Cusi also revealed that MIAA is now coordinating with airlines to add the airport users’ fees to ticket charges so that departing passengers will not have to make the separate payment at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport.

In the public hearings, MIAA said funds from the new fees will be used to purchase security gadgets and equipment for NAIA Terminals 1 and 2 and for the Domestic Airport.

MIAA had originally planned to impose an additional US$5 security fee but this was branded as excessive by international airlines during the public hearings.

^haaay that is very sad. i felt that i was paying alot when i flew those domestic flight because of the tax and now theyre adding more (tsking)

^^waah, di pa bukas ang bagong airport nag increase na fees!

so i guess mura na naman ang dmia. hehe.

Germany unhappy with delay of compensation by Philippines for air terminal expropriation

German envoy to the Philippines said on Tuesday his country is not happy with the delay in the full payment of compensation by the Philippine government after it expropriated a 650 million U.S. dollar air terminal of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) from a Filipino-German consortium two years ago.

"They (Philippine government) said it's going to be until the end of next year but we're still waiting. We've been waiting for this for years," said German Ambassador Axel Weishaupt in an interview with local media.

Weishaupt said he expects the Philippines to pay as soon as an international tribunal in Washington, where the case against the Philippine administration was filed following the takeover of the terminal, comes out.

"As far as (German financer) Fraport is concerned, the Philippine government has made a down payment but we are really waiting for the ruling in Washington. If they already say that the Philippine government has to compensate then finally the amount would be fixed then its time for the government to fulfill that. We are really waiting for that," he said.

The Philippine government ignored a ruling by Singapore-based International Chamber of Commerce (ICC) made in August last year to return the terminal to its former owners.

The terminal, NAIA Terminal 3, was owned by Philippine International Air Terminals Co. (Piatco), who brought the expropriation case before the international arbitration court in Singapore.

Earlier, Germany admitted that the Philippine government's failure to provide compensation for its expropriation of Terminal 3, which is largely financed by Franfurter Flughafen, or Fraport, has seriously affected its bilateral political ties between Germany and the Philippines.

In its 2006 bilateral overview for the Philippines, the German Federal Foreign Office said economic relations between the two countries "have been marred by the Philippine government's expropriation in December 2004 of Manila Airport's new international terminal."

The terminal's construction was completed in December 2002 by the consortium of Fraport-Piatco, but is now showing signs of dilapidation due to lack of maintenance.

if this was privatize, coulda went much MUCH MUCCCCCCHHH!!! faster...

@kiretoce: I don't think anyone's happy about anything involved with T3. :) :( :) :(

@kiretoce: I don't think anyone's happy about anything involved with T3. :) :( :) :(

Lahat pala ng contractors na nag-aaply sa bidding ng mga projects naglalagay, kaya hindi nako magtataka kung bat nauwi sa ganito ang infrastructure state, kahit pa may BOT law, wala ring kwenta, dahil mali maling bidder ang nanalo...

^^ ... kung hindi naglalagay ang nanalo sa bidding ay fly by night contractors operated by former military generals or government officials relatives ... :bash: :bash: :bash:

isaric, it was private, but the government revoked the contract under the guise it was unfair, then the supreme court ruled that the winning bidder did not have the financial resources to put up the terminal, even after the terminal was built!

Airport tackles dry run, bird flu
By Vito Barcelo

Airport authorities have their hands full with a new terminal set to open, a dry run to iron out kinks in the passenger flow on top of a renewed drive against avian flu.

At least 150 employees have been asked to do a simulation exercise by the Manila International Airport Authority at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal-3 which was undergoing finishing touches.

The Naia-3 is expected to kick off in the first quarter even as the government admitted that it needed $5 million to finish the facility.

Airport general manager Alfonso Cusi said the contractor Takenaka was rushing up work on the ceiling, road links, security and communications systems.

Meanwhile, the surge of poultry flu cases in certain countries has prompted officials to have passengers go through a check routine using a sophisticated forward-looking infrared.

“From the previous practice of thermal screening of arriving passengers with recorded avian flu, all [now] have to undergo screening [by] medical staff from the Bureau of Quarantine,” said Cusi, adding that the routine would cover airline crewmembers.

Three scanners and two thermal cameras were recently added to the existing equipment of the Naia-1 and 2.

For full measure, he said a “foot bath” at the arrival area was included to disinfect suspected carriers of the deadly virus even as the airport authorities had to mind the scheduled opening of Naia-3.

“Among the scenarios conducted were international arrival with connecting flights to domestic,” Cusi said, noting that they had to trace the passenger movement through the various stages of processing and checking including redundant security measures.

“The stimulation exercise will not only focus on passenger flow but to test if the existing signage are sufficient to guide the passengers in their respective counters, departure and arrival counters and check-in counters,” he said, in time for “our rolling opening, hopefully in the first quarter of the year.”

World health statistics have placed bird flu deaths at 161 in Indonesia out of 256 reported cases.

“Although there is no human-to-human transmission... preventive measures are still necessary with the start of the annual migration of birds to the country,” Cusi said.

Airport eyesore ruins Arroyo send-off

A row of dilapidated buildings near the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) put President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo in a bad mood minutes before she flew to Switzerland Thursday morning.

Object of the President’s ire was the Nayong Pilipino, a theme park that has become an eyesore due to poor maintenance.

The President was visibly irked while she was passing by Vice President Noli de Castro, Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita and Public Works secretary Hermogenes Ebdane Jr, Armed Forces chief of staff Gen. Hermogenes Esperon Jr. and airport officials led by Assistant General Manager Angel Atutubo.

She demanded explanation from airport officials for the usightly buildings.

An airport official told the President that Nayong Pilipino is a separate agency and not connected with NAIA nor is it connected with the functions of the Manila International Airport Authority.

But they promised the President to act on her complaint.

Her 8 a.m. flight was delayed by a few minutes because authorities were clueless whether the President would deliver her departure statement inside the VIP lounge or at the tarmac. In the end, she decided not to make any statement.

Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita said aside from the First Gentleman Jose Miguel Arroyo, the President’s delegation includes Press Secretary Ignacio Bunye, Trade Secretary Peter Favila, Finance Secretary Margarito Teves and Foreign Affairs Secretary Alberto Romulo.

Ermita said Mrs Arroyo would be back Sunday afternoon.

Ermita said the President had designated him and the Vice President as heads of the caretaker committee.

Mrs Arroyo flew to Switzerland for the annual World Economic Forum in Davos. She, as chairman of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) would discuss the group’s economic road map. An assessment of Asean past 40 years and its future would also be discussed.

While in Zurich, Mrs Arroyo is expected to receive Maurice Amon, chairman and founder of Sicpa Holdings SA about 7:30 p.m. She is also scheduled to grace a dinner hosted by Dr Stephen Zuellig of the Zuellig Group of Companies, who is a member of her international board of adviser.

On Friday, the President is to proceed to Davos where she be treated to a breakfast meeting by officials of the Credit Suisse followed by a call of Citibank top man William Rhodes.

About 10:45 a.m. Friday, Mrs Arroyo is to meet Klaus Schwab, chair of the World Economic Forum. Lined up in WEF activities are discussions on the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) economic roadmap.

Other Asean leaders expected in the affair are Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi and Vietnam Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung.

next time they (staff of pres.) should move her view next time on those barong barong along the airport, lemme see if she gonna be so happy

they have to wait to be scolded by the president before they do their jobs correctly. :ohno:

hmm... would be great if someone can post photos of what she actually saw

oh common GMA, how could you not be aware of the surroundings at the airport? even the way to the airport is not a very pleasant.

i hope we wont reach thread10.......

it's likely.. as per the forum rules, a thread should be closed upon reaching 500 posts..

i hope we wont reach thread10.......

I think that's what we said about threads 9,8,7,6,5,4......

well.. yeah.. she should be familiar with the unsightly view of the airport surrounds..... how many times have she flown out of the country or to another province?... well.. it's impossible for her to notice the route to the airport...

i hope we wont reach thread10.......

Dream on babe/dude, dream on! :colgate:

it's likely.. as per the forum rules, a thread should be closed upon reaching 500 posts..

Not at all times. And we shall not open a 10th thread if it does not open yet. The 10th thread shall only be for the grand opening :D

so what if someone creates a new one? of course that wouldnt me..:D

^ Then I'll close it or merge it with this one ;)

Not at all times. And we shall not open a 10th thread if it does not open yet. The 10th thread shall only be for the grand opening :D

What if there are news and updates pertaining to T3?

^ I didn't say we'll not have a thread for T3. I just said that we'll just utilize this one, even if it exceeds 500, until it opens ;)

What if it opens next year, or the year after that, or the year after that, or maybe even never! :lol:

^ I didn't say we'll not have a thread for T3. I just said that we'll just utilize this one, even if it exceeds 500, until it opens ;)

isnt that against a particular rule here?

^about the rule, we shouldnt be posting advertisement here unless you pay Jan.
hehehe anyway i dont give a flying chicken.

^about the rule, we shouldnt be posting advertisement here unless you pay Jan.
hehehe anyway i dont give a flying chicken.


I've heard of buffalo wings, never a flying chicken LMAO

isnt that against a particular rule here?

Well closing threads at 500 isn't actually a rule but a "practice". We close them at 500 to cut the strain from the server. But now, the admins gave a "go" signal for us to allow some threads, especially fast threads, important threads and Projects on the Rise threads to exceed 500 so just not to cut the momentum ;)

^^ Making another thread if the last one is at capacity doesn't really halt a subject matter's momentum because opinions (for or against) will always be aired, and the inevitable heated debates will always be a staple.

^ Alright but it would really be special if our 10th NAIA thread would be dedicated to the opening. A celebration. A festive mood. :lol:

^^ That was just my opinion Sinjin, of course it would be an ecstatic, jubilant, and timely occurence if T3 did open and is operational by the time Thread X comes around, no doubt about it! :okay: But it's still yours and the other mods call, and as an exemplary "good" forumer, I will abide by the decisions of the powers that be. :colgate:

haay waiting for this airport is so emotionally draining and exhausting.
better just ignore it. you know things happen when you least expect it.

^about the rule, we shouldnt be posting advertisement here unless you pay Jan.
hehehe anyway i dont give a flying chicken.

patama ba sakin 'to?:D

Double Post

^about the rule, we shouldnt be posting advertisement here unless you pay Jan.
hehehe anyway i dont give a flying chicken.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:hi: hi Samwise :hi:

:hi: hi Samwise :hi:

Hello FX! :wave: Hala Bira! Dinagyang na!

so the roofs intact still? lol :lol:

Look what I found...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=3475842&postcount=2

And that was said 2 years ago :lol:

patama ba sakin 'to?:D

you think? lols

well.. I hope this does opens this march... and I hope the first half of March... I might be flying out for Ireland on March.. and I hope to use it by then...

well.. I hope this does opens this march... and I hope the first half of March... I might be flying out for Ireland on March.. and I hope to use it by then...

o0o0oo!! luck of the irish ;) fly out today you might be lucky! jks... hopefully itll open this march , i might be going too =]

^^

Luck of the Irish? Sana hindi lasing ang Irish pagalis mo. haha.

which one do you think will be faster, sam milby learning how to speak tagalog fluently or t-3 opening. or is it going to be a troy montero, never going to learn how to speak tagalog.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view_article.php?article_id=46318

NAIA 3 attempts another opening

By Nikko Dizon
Inquirer
Last updated 09:28pm (Mla time) 01/29/2007

MANILA, Philippines -- For the third time since the mothballing of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Terminal 3, the Manila's airport authority is again gearing up for its "rolling opening" in the first quarter of the year.

Following a passenger simulation last week, a cargo simulation has been scheduled this week by the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA).

An MIAA source said the cargo simulation would "clock" the transfer of cargo from NAIA 3 to the cargo houses using the NAIA Terminal 2- NAIA Terminal 3 access road.

A cargo diversion road is also under construction at the end of the access road to shorten the travel time of transporting the cargo from NAIA 3 and from all the other terminals.

Last week, 150 MIAA employees acted as passengers at the NAIA 3.

In a statement, the MIAA said the participants were given three scenarios for passenger movement, namely, international arrival with a connecting flight to domestic airports, domestic flight with connecting international departure flight, and the usual domestic flight movements.

"These activities aim to provide the airport and airline officials an opportunity to observe and assess passenger flow in the said scenarios," the MIAA said.

"The MIAA is looking forward to finally opening the NAIA Terminal 3. (The) simulation is only part of our preparations to test our planned rolling opening, hopefully by the first quarter of the year," Alfonso Cusi, MIAA general manager, said in the statement.

But airport insiders pointed out that an ideal simulation should have all the facilities inside the NAIA 3 working, and not just a walk through of passengers.

"A simulation should give the feeling that it is really a working terminal. The baggage carousels are working, the check in counters are open, and even the air conditioning is turned on," they said, requesting anonymity for lack of authority to speak to the media.

However, the MIAA could not yet operate the NAIA 3 because Takenaka, Corp., the Japanese contractor hired by former terminal owner, Philippine International Air Terminals Co. (PIATCo), had yet to sign a contract with the government, another source said.

Takenaka has the blueprint of NAIA 3 that would guide its operations.

A rolling opening in 2005 did not push through because airlines refused to transfer to NAIA 3 without a valid lease contract from the MIAA.

The airlines had pointed out they could not enter into any agreement with MIAA, until the full resolution of all legal cases involving NAIA 3.

Last year, the MIAA was set to have another rolling opening, but a few days before the target date, a portion of the ceiling at the NAIA 3 arrival area collapsed, prompting the airport authority to postpone the activity.

A rolling opening would involve a couple of short-haul flights of one airline.

In its statement, MIAA said that the passenger simulation exercise would be "in coordination with the airline group which had rallied behind the MIAA in planning for the opening of the new terminal."

The Philippine Daily Inquirer sources said the unnamed airline in the press statement was flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL), owned by tycoon Lucio Tan.

Hmmmmm....let's see then..:)

I hope all of PAL's regional flights be flown from T3 by end-March. I will also be travelling this year...either to Beijing and Shanghai...in April.

will see what happened

Anyone feeling lucky? :colgate:

(I hope that T3 would be operational before the new Iloilo airport opens by April)

here we go again.... and again..... and again.... and so on.......

strike 3 na to diba? pag pumalya pa to'... wala na.

^ After strike 3, "you're out" :lol:

Keep your fingers crossed *again*

taken from gmanews.tv.. ok.. this sounds pretty definite to me..

NAIA-3 to start operations by end-March or early April
01/31/2007 | 03:57 PM
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The new Terminal 3 of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport will "definitely" start commercial operations by end-March or early April, the Department of Transportation and Communication said on Wednesday.

“It's 100 percent, no movement of the opening definitely by end March or early April," he said.

Transportation Secretary Leandro Mendoza said the government already has overcome all legal obstacles to the opening of the NAIA-3, whose construction has been hit by controversy over delays and pricing.

“We’ve hurdled the major legal issues," said Mendoza during ceremonies marking the signing of a memorandum of agreement between the department and its office in the Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM)-DoTC on the devolution of functions.

Mendoza said the “rolling opening" could only accommodate at least two to three foreign airlines with international flights but expects that other airlines would follow after repairs are completed on the airport’s ceiling that collapsed last year.

“The terminal is not really that big to accommodate all the airlines so it’s going to be a rolling opening or will do it by stages," he said.

The new terminal will have a maximum capacity of 13 million passengers per year.

Asked what airlines would get slots in the new terminal, Mendoza declined to identify but said Philippine Airlines (PAL), the country’s leading airline, and other local carriers would be able to use the terminal but only later.

“PAL (and the others) will join later," Mendoza said.

The transportation chief noted that that both PAL and Cebu Pacific have requested to be housed in one terminal for both their domestic and international flights but the department is still studying their proposals.

“Both airlines (company) requested that they be housed in one terminal and we are studying this," he said. -GMANews.TV

“It's 100 percent, no movement of the opening definitely by end March or early April," he said.



I quote him for that. We'll see

i really hope this is true this time.. sinjin, even if we quote him and it doesnt open, we cant do anything but just rant and rant.. haha..

tama ba ang basa ko? pati 5J nakikisali na rin sa bid ng PAL na i house both their international and domestic?:ohno:

malabo pa 'to...

dami di pa nare-resolve na issue, both technical and legal.

it's just a propaganda yung mga balita na yan. Although GMA wants it really bad to open this March.

Feb na bukas wala pa ring balita sa opening sna matuloy na tlga opening this year.... isang malaking kahihiyan tyo ever!

kelan ba magdedecide yung intl arbitration court sa Washington DC? Panu kung magdecide siya in favor of Fraport like what the court in Singapore did?..

which one do you think will be faster, sam milby learning how to speak tagalog fluently or t-3 opening. or is it going to be a troy montero, never going to learn how to speak tagalog.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

how sad... i dont know which one :ohno: :lol:

3 airlines ‘pioneers’ in Terminal 3

By Lenie Lectura
Reporter

GOVERNMENT announced for the nth time that the much- delayed and controversial Terminal 3 of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport would open either late March or early April this year, with three foreign airlines initially using the modern airport.

Leandro Mendoza, secretary of the Department of Transportation and Communications, said his agency is “in the process of choosing the exact date. . .We will do a rolling opening of Naia-3 sometime end-March or within the first week of April. When we say rolling operation we mean that there are only a few airlines that will operate at first. As we continue to finish minor construction, more airlines will join.”

He said Naia3 is already 98-percent complete, with the remaining 2 percent to be completed in three months. “We just conducted a test on the equipment last week. There were also some repair works done.”

He declined to identify the three foreign airlines that agreed to use the new terminal as “pioneer” users. “These foreign airlines have already secured slots inside the terminal. As you know, the terminal could only accommodate up to 13 million passengers a year. Not all airlines could be accommodated.”

Naia 3 is designed to ease congestion at the two other terminals. When Terminal 3 opens, Naia 1 will be used for special flights, such as chartered and freight services, according to Manila International Airport Authority general manager Alfonso Cusi.

Naia 2, meanwhile, will continue to house the domestic and international flights of Philippine Airlines. Cebu Pacific also wants to move its domestic and international operations into the new terminal. “We are studying their proposal,” said Mendoza.

“PAL wants to move in but they want their domestic and foreign operations to be housed under one roof. We will still allow some of PAL’s international flights to be operated within Terminal 2,” said Mendoza.

PAL and Air Philippines will carry a combined 8 million passengers this year, of which 80,000 will be from Air Philippines, the low-cost carrier of Lucio Tan.

“The new terminal may not accommodate all of our passengers even though Naia 3 has a capacity of 12 million. That is why some of our domestic flights will be from Terminal 2,” said PAL president Jaime Bautista.

Bautista said the airport authority has allocated four of the 22 gates of Naia 3 for PAL. The other 18 gates will be assigned to various foreign airlines.

“If we are to totally vacate Naia 2, the terminal there would be very big for the other local airlines that would remain there. So, we might as well retain our domestic operations there. If at times the new terminal cannot accommodate our international operations then we can always operate from Naia 2,” added Bautista.

^^ My guess it's PR, CX, and NW. :colgate:

i hope that cebu pacific would be able to move their domestic flights to NAIA 3 by may.. so we could use the new airport if ever it does open..