got this from the cebupacificair.com website.. it sounds like really good news!

MIAA, Cebu Pacific team up for domestic airport expansion

Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) and Cebu Pacific (CEB), in a joint effort, will upgrade and expand the Manila Domestic Terminal (MDT) to improve its facilities for its increasing number of passengers.

The project will start by February 15, 2008 and should be completed by April 15, 2008.

The improvements will include:

The opening of a new arrival area with five baggage conveyors instead of the three conveyors today.
A 66% increase in seating capacity of the pre-departure area with the addition of more than 500 seats.
The expansion of the flight check-in lobby and security check areas.
The construction and addition of boarding gates, holding areas, and restrooms which will double the capacity of these structures from present.
The construction of a covered walkway to the aircraft parking bays at the ramp.
Candice Iyog, CEB spokesperson said, “We have definitely outgrown the MDT and we are looking forward to its expansion. We recognize how important the airport experience is to our guests so we are happy about this joint effort with the MIAA.”

The airline will relocate its cargo receiving section to pave way for the new arrival area.

MIAA will spend for the amenities upgrade in the arrival area and the construction and upgrading of the pre-departure lounge and departure areas.

CEB expects to carry more than 7 million passengers in 2008, 70 percent of whom will be domestic travelers. The airline carried more than 5 million passengers last year.

CEB has the youngest fleet of aircraft in the Philippines. CEB flies to 12, soon to be 14 international destinations, with the addition of Ho Chi Minh and Hanoi this April. CEB also operates flights to 21 domestic destinations with the addition of Boracay (Caticlan) beginning February 29, 2008.

^^ two months lang?

This is a good news!! if they can really accomplish these in two months, that's even better. It looks doable though, it doesn't seems like a very major and complicated addition in that domestic wing.

^^it would be much better if Domestic operations will be moved to Terminal II (Centennial). they should burn that old airport down. :bash:

Actually, you're right. I mistook MIAA from MCIA which is in Cebu!!!! FFS what was I thinking ???LOL

They needed to demolish that old Domestic Terminal to pave way in lenthening and widdening of that runway so it can also be used for bigger and wider aircrafts not just that one main and longer runway they are currently using for all international flights...

^^ah, i just realised that you posted that same news article in MCIA thead too! hehe. got confused there but that's fine. in my opinion, fixing that old airport is just a band-aid solution. it has gone way beyond its economical lifespan. they should just spend that money to finish the long overdue Terminal III and make use of Terminal II for Domestic. wish it could be just that easy though. i think this has been discussed nthless times already, kinda sick and tired of that T3 sh*t! :lol:

I didn't post any news article anywhere. That's probably somebody else.. it got me confused that's for sure...LOL

Sana sa NAIA pa din ang domestic operations...

I don't think they'll be extending the runway anytime soon even if the Domestic Terminal is closed which will still take a couple of years if ever.

Anyway re fixing up the Domestic terminal I believe Cebu Pacifics move is just a very short term solution. Where they believe they can put in another 2m or so pax in a year or two is really a big question as even with this expansion they'll easily hit the limit very quickly. They're expecting that T3 is going to get open within a 2 year time frame and that they have a good chance of getting T1 exclusively for them. At that point Domestic Terminal will be closed.

^^ at least they still think T3's going to open... :colgate:

Hi guys, I hope you won’t mind me getting in your discussions. I’ve been following them for a while now and there seems be supporters of both NAIA and DMIA but not really for both of them as an integrated option.

London has 4 airports, Heathrow, Gatwick, Stanstead and London City Airport. Gatwick about like NAIA only has one runway but handles around 30M passengers per year. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_busiest_airports_by_international_passenger_traffic

London City airport is only small but is right in the heart of London and caters largely to business traffic.

Bearing this in mind do you think that NAIA could operate as an airport directed at business users a few minutes away in Makati and the Fort, along with domestic travel and other international traffic from the south. Some of my friends in business there have told me that they would hate the thought of adding 2 or 3 of hours to a journey going to DMIA to get to Hong Kong for example. Traffic jams on EDSA for example.

From what I’ve read the President appears to aiming to make DMIA into a major “Freeport for airlines” which could work by encouraging foreign airlines to base themselves there. The location of the Philippines is analogous to the UK we are off the coast of Europe, you are off the coast of Asia. The UK is a major hub and I think that the Philippines could push towards that by giving airlines the right incentives.

NAIA is an ok airport except for the queues to get in and all the bits of paper you need in the right order, it just needs terminal 3 opened asap, terminal 2 is as good as anywhere else in the world and certainly better than Heathrow.

I really don’t think you should be closing a multi million dollar installation just to build a new one elsewhere though.

Do you think that there is a place for at least two airports for Manila?

Sorry if this has already been brought up earlier but I don’t speak Tagalog and can’t persuade the wife to teach me.

^^ Glad to have you join the discussion Reading boy. The points that you've brought up had been the main topic of discussion with regards to NAIA and DMIA for some time now. But it's nice to hear an "outsider's" point-of-view on the matter. NAIA and DMIA can both exist and support the aviation needs of the National Capital Region (NCR) and and its adjacent provinces. There have been discussions here that NAIA will be likened to Seoul's Gimpo and Tokyo's Haneda airports when DMIA becomes the primary gateway to NCR (and the country for that matter), that it will cater to the business community with its approximate distance to the capital's business centers. Also that it can be the "in-town" airport for domestic operations and possible short-haul international destinations (intra-ASEAN/Asia). You are correct in stating that the thought off adding another 2-3 hours of travel time from Metro Manila (especially from its southern cities and the CALABARZON region) can be an inconvenience. Therefore the importance of NAIA still remains.

Thanks Kiretoce, that’s very kind.

I don’t really know the two north asian airports you mentioned but I think that it’s going to be difficult to persuade people from southern Luzon that they would be better travelling through manila to get to the airport especially when they then have a 12-18 hour flight on top.

I know that the highways are under reconstruction and hopefully will get better. I’ve read many of your posts on other threads and sat many of the jams too when I’ve been there!

It’s just that, I suspect that you will draw a great deal of investment in to the country on top of the infrastructure that is going in. This will bring a commensurate increase in business travel and hopefully tourism both inward and as the middle classes grow, outwardly as well.

I guess my point is that there is a real prospect that both airports can grow and bring prosperity. It would be a real pity to limit either airport to a minor role by restricting who and what can use them, don’t you think.

i'm sure they will see that it is absolutely practical to keep naia even after dmia will be opened. despite the congestion and the limited space at naia, it is still relatively in an excellent location. it can be kept opened for future inter-island/domestic flights, for the low cost carriers, domestic cargo, the potential for it be a useful airport that can play a key role in our country's infrastructure, economy, airlines, etc. is still there. all that is needed is slight remodeling, better use of space, some upgrading, better planning, etc., and it should fairly do well. air travel will only increase in our country, as we find that it is a lot faster and easier than riding ferries from place to another, cutting costs and travel time. we are a nation of islands and people will find it easier to fly from one place to the next.

i do agree that dmia is a bit too far from manila itself, but that's the future of airports these days, as airports need to constantly expand to accommodate the ever expanding airline industry, the growing numbers of visitors to our country, the increasing demand of domestic flights within our country etc. this is the future of airports and we find that airports have become far from large city centers. there's no room to expand near a growing city like manila, and it just so happened that clark was an excellent place, plenty of room for expansion and an existing airport infrastructure is already laid out.

now as far as our roads and infrastructure that lead to this airport to manila, they seem to be improving, which is excellent. i'm sure drastic measures are being taken for worse case scenarios, thats if these people who are in the helm of these projects and the people in our government do not screw things up.

and i do agree, that one of the things we could change with our airports, and when the new dmia airport is built, the level of service and the staffs of our airport should be improved, a better system of handling things, a better way in running the airports, a better way in dealing with visitors, better security, an overall change with the current way of handling passengers, and maintaining order in the airport. we can step it up a bit and do as equally well as the japanese airport staffs in narita. its just a matter of changing the attitude and how we treat each other.

If you can see the DMIA, it too has some crawling residents and other industrial/commercial establishments around it. Pretty soon it will become another NAIA before they even finished their expansion plans, if they don't do something about it. I think the planner have put those future residential areas too close to the airport's proximity, and the airport noise can actually reduce the value of real estates there. I dont know who designed it, but honestly, their making some mistakes there and probably they're thinking the other way around.

BTW, there is a plan to build an international airport in Batangas that worth around $1.5 billion. It should be a small airport though but modern for sure.

Originally Posted by papi_chulo
PGMA orders development of DMIA as RP’s premier airport, and eventual closure of NAIA-1
TUESDAY, JANUARY 29, 2008 | INFRASTRUCTURE


President Gloria Macapagal–Arroyo ordered today the development of the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) at the Clark Freeport Zone in Pampanga as the country’s premier airport and the eventual closing down of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport I.

The President issued the directive to concerned agencies led by the Department of Transportation and Communications during the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA)-Cabinet Group meeting this morning in Malacanang.

The President gave a timeframe of six months up to one year to turn the DMIA into the country’s premier airport.

The move would further support the President’s vision of Clark and Subic as the country’s logistics hub in the Asia-Pacific region and the new international gateways of the country.

The DMIA is one of the biggest aviation complexes in Asia with its two 3.2-kilometer parallel runways that will be extended to four kilometers to accommodate new generation wide-bodied aircraft.

The DMIA is certified by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) with ratings of Category I for Precision Approach Runway and Category IX for the Emergency Services.

It is well equipped with Instrument Landing System, Navigational Aids, Meteorological Equipment, and Complete Airfield Lighting System.
http://www.gov.ph/news/?i=19999


She probably meant logistically. The transfer of required materials and paper works from NAIA T1 to make DMIA the premier airport officially as a start. Then the rest of their expansion plans will be followed in the yrs to come. That high speed mass rail system is not even started yet.

I'm not sure who is causing and starting all these noises but we can't really tell which ones are true and which one of those promises would really materialize because we all have to rely on the mercy of foreign investors . To me it's all nothing but noises and who ever comes first with a willing and better offer would be the project the Philippine government can actually start. This is probably one of the main reason why there is no proper planning with all the Philippines infrastructures because the Philipine government doesn't really and isn't really sure how to start because everything has to come from an outside resources. It's sad really, the government usually just resort in alot of publicity just so they have something to discuss and report to our people and in the end, our people are usually left out there in limbo or perhaps the period of uncertainty.

If you can see the DMIA, it too has some crawling residents and other industrial/commercial establishments around it. Pretty soon it will become another NAIA before they even finished their expansion plans, if they don't do something about it. I think the planner have put those future residential areas too close to the airport's proximity, and the airport noise can actually reduce the value of real estates there. I dont know who designed it, but honestly, their making some mistakes there and probably they're thinking the other way around.

BTW, there is a plan to build an international airport in Batangas that worth around $1.5 billion. It should be a small airport though but modern for sure.

Yes but despite the industrial and commercial establishments happening around the airport, DMIA's lot is still huge and its much bigger than HKIA. What matters though is zoning. We wouldn't want a 600 ft scraper near that area.

Naia 3 accounts can’t be opened
S.C. STOPS ANTIMONEY-LAUNDERING COUNCIL BID FOR IMMEDIATE SCRUTINY SANS HEARING

By Joel R. San Juan
Reporter
The Business Mirror

THE Supreme Court (SC) has dismissed the petition of the Antimoney-Laundering Council (AMLC) for the immediate implementation of the orders of the Regional Trial Courts (RTC) in Manila and Makati to examine the webs of bank accounts of former government officials and private individuals allegedly involved in the construction of the graft-ridden Ninoy Aquino International Airport (Naia) Terminal 3.

Associate Justice Tinga, writing for the High Court’s Second Division, held that Republic Act 9160, or the Antimoney Laundering Act (Amla), does not allow courts to issue ex-parte orders or orders without hearing or notification of the other parties.

The High Tribunal ruled the RTC in Manila did not commit grave abuse of discretion in issuing the orders dated July 25, 2006, and August 15, 2006, deferring the implementation of its January 12, 2006, order granting the ex-parte application of AMLC to inquire into 13 accounts and two related web accounts alleged as having been used to facilitate corruption in the Naia 3 project.

Among the accounts were the DBS bank account of former transportation secretary Pantaleon Alvarez and the Metrobank accounts of Cheng Yong, president of Naia 3 contractor Philippine International Air Terminal Corp. (Piatco).

The SC also said the Court of Appeals (CA) did not err when it issued on August 1, 2006, a status-quo order with regard to the July 1, 2005, ruling of the RTC in Makati granting the AMLC the authority to inquire and examine the bank accounts of Alvarez, Yong, former transportation undersecretary Wilfredo Trinidad and Piatco consultant Alfredo Liongson.

The AMLC filed the ex-parte application to inquire into the accounts of the four depositors based on the findings of its compliance and investigation staff that certain amounts were transferred from a Hong Kong bank account owned by Jetstream Pacific Lt. to bank accounts in the Philippines maintained by Liongson and Yong.

In her petition filed with the CA, Lilia Cheng, wife of Yong, sought to enjoin the Manila and Makati RTCs from allowing the AMLC to implement their bank inquiry orders.

Lilia has a conjugal bank account at Citibank covered by the Makati RTC inquiry order, and two other conjugal bank accounts at Metrobank that are covered by the Manila RTC bank inquiry order.

Lilia argued the lower courts committed grave abuse of discretion in granting AMLC’s ex parte applications for a bank inquiry order, thus violating her constitutional right to due process.

She further stressed that the bank inquiry order under the Amla can only be granted when there is already a pre-existing money-laundering offense case filed in the courts, and the law does not apply to bank accounts opened and transactions entered into before its effectivity or to bank accounts located outside the country.

The SC did not agree with Lilia, however, that a bank inquiry order under Section 11 (Authority to Inquire into Bank Deposits) of the Amla may be obtained only when there is already a pending money-laundering case filed in court.

Should it uphold Lilia’s contention, the court said, then the bank inquiry order would only be useful in litigation of live cases and totally “inutile” as a means to ascertain whether there is sufficient evidence to sustain an intended prosecution of the account holder for violation of the Amla.

“Should that be the situation, in all likelihood the AMLC would be virtually deprived of its character as a discovery tool, and thus would become less circumspect in filing complaints against suspect account holders.”

The court also said although a bank inquiry order may be availed of without the need of a pre-existing case, it does not follow that such order may be availed of without hearing or notification of the other parties (ex parte).

It noted that Section 11 of the Amla does not specifically authorize the issuance ex parte of the bank inquiry order as compared with Section 10 (Freezing of Monetary Instrument or Property).

Although both are extraordinary provisional reliefs that the AMLC may avail itself of to combat money-laundering activities, the court noted that Section 10 uses specific language to authorize an ex-parte application, which is absent in Section 11.

“If indeed the legislature had intended to authorize ex-parte proceedings for the issuance of the bank inquiry order, then it could have easily expressed such intent in the law, as it did with the freeze order under Section 10.”

It further noted that prior to its amendments, it was the AMLC, not the CA, which had authority to issue a freeze order, whereas a bank inquiry order always then required, without exception, an order from a competent court.

It was through the said amendments that ex-parte proceedings were introduced into the Amla, including in the case of the freeze order.

“It certainly would have been convenient, through the same amendatory law, to allow a similar ex-parte procedure in the case of a bank inquiry order had Congress been so minded. Yet nothing in the provision itself, or even the available legislative record, explicitly points to an ex-parte judicial procedure in the application for a bank inquiry order, unlike in the case of the freeze order,” said the court.

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/02182008/headlines01.html

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new planes for Boracay flights

If you can see the DMIA, it too has some crawling residents and other industrial/commercial establishments around it. Pretty soon it will become another NAIA before they even finished their expansion plans, if they don't do something about it. I think the planner have put those future residential areas too close to the airport's proximity, and the airport noise can actually reduce the value of real estates there. I dont know who designed it, but honestly, their making some mistakes there and probably they're thinking the other way around.

BTW, there is a plan to build an international airport in Batangas that worth around $1.5 billion. It should be a small airport though but modern for sure.
BRO,if u see DMIA lot is 2,500 hectare,NAIA is only 600 hectare...DMIA is bigger than CHANGI in SINGAPORE....:cheers:Limit high building in angeles is only 11 floor..

BRO,if u see DMIA lot is 2,500 hectare,NAIA is only 600 hectare...DMIA is bigger than CHANGI in SINGAPORE....:cheers:Limit high building in angeles is only 11 floor..

I wasn't comparing their sizes, im talking about the same problem that might happen in DMIA with uncontrollable shanties and other people residing within its perimeters like what happened in NAIA. And even 11 floor-building establishments shouldn't be allowed to be built there atleast within 5-8 km away from DMIA.

I agree with Wanch that a proper zoning should be implemented. Also, more law enforcement should be placed there against any squatters who might build their shanties around the airport. They should have learned some big lessons from what happened in NAIA, and us too doesn't wanna see the same thing happening in DMIA. Im just concerned. :cheers:

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new planes for Boracay flights

What type of airplane was that? Its a nice one! :)

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we go the extra smile daw eh. patawa. haha

ngayon lang ulet ako nakabalik sa forums, mukang wala mashadong updates sa t3 at mashado focus ang pinas sa zte...

I wasn't comparing their sizes, im talking about the same problem that might happen in DMIA with uncontrollable shanties and other people residing within its perimeters like what happened in NAIA. And even 11 floor-building establishments shouldn't be allowed to be built there atleast within 5-8 km away from DMIA.

I agree with Wanch that a proper zoning should be implemented. Also, more law enforcement should be placed there against any squatters who might build their shanties around the airport. They should have learned some big lessons from what happened in NAIA, and us too doesn't wanna see the same thing happening in DMIA. Im just concerned. :cheers:



What type of airplane was that? Its a nice one! :)

i tell u mine friend Clark has a fence o.k u can't, come here mine friend visit CLARK GO HERE IN THE PINAS u can see how is secure.. this is former U.S air force base ...CLARK HAS A FENCE AROUND THE ECOZONE.. where u from in pinas:lol:

any update of t3? will the terminal open this yr?

I think it opened last month daw.

I think it opened last month daw.

It didn't. And, it will not open this year.

Breaking News: SEAIR plane overshoots runway

A SEAIR plane overshot the runway upon arriving at the Manila Domestic Airport Sunday afternoon, ABS-CBN News reported.

The SEAIR Dornier plane, with registry number RPC 5328, overshot the grassy part at the end of Runway 13-31 after arriving from Caticlan, Aklan, at around 5:55 p.m.

According to Manila International Airport Authority assistant general manager Octavio Lina, the plane carried 32 passengers and three flight crew.

The pilot was identified only as Captain Mendoza.

There were no major casualties reported though some passengers sustained minor injuries and were taken to the Philippine Airlines Clinic near Villamor Airbase in Pasay City.

The plane is still at the grassy end of the runway as of posting time.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=110190

^ My God. Is this the second time for them or was it Asian Spirit that also "overshoots" the runway? It's scary... :)

i tell u mine friend Clark has a fence o.k u can't, come here mine friend visit CLARK GO HERE IN THE PINAS u can see how is secure.. this is former U.S air force base ...CLARK HAS A FENCE AROUND THE ECOZONE.. where u from in pinas:lol:

shanties ouside the fence? ok u get it? no matter how huge our airport is, but if the tourists see these shanties around the airport's FENCE/perimeters, what would u think the type of impression they get? that's what i mean. they gonna have a culture shock too... that's why shanties around the airport is no good.... even residents who live too close from the airport's primeters/fence is no good as well.... ok my friend? :cheers:

Troubled landing for Boracay vacationers at NAIA

MANILA, Philippines -- (UPDATE) Passengers of a flight from Boracay were "shaken" when their plane swerved to the lawn of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport's domestic runway upon touchdown before sunset on Sunday. No one was hurt.

South East Asian Airlines (Seair) Flight 042 carrying 32 passengers from Caticlan encountered a troubled landing at 5:54 p.m. on Sunday, swerving to the grassy area alongside NAIA's shorter runway upon touchdown.

"The feedback I received was that the passengers were shaken but nobody was injured. In fact, we are now releasing baggage," said Seair President Avelino Zapanta when reached by phone, calling it a "slight incident."

The Manila Control Tower of the Air Transportation Office (ATO) said the pilot, identified by Zapanta as Captain Antonio Mendoza, made no distress call on the approach and had a good touchdown. The plane, however,suddenly veered to the left for a yet unexplained cause.

"When the pilot was already at the grassy part, he radioed "I don't know what happened to me," said an on-duty air traffic controller who asked not to be named for lack of authority to speak on the matter.

The plane, however, remained upright despite its unusual taxi. Passengers deplaned shortly after, just as ATO air crash investigators arrived on the scene to determine what happened.

Airport operations chief Octavio "Bing" Lina said the incident caused no delays to aircraft queued for departure or landing as most flights into Manila have been using NAIA's longer runway.

"We can't say anything yet as to the cause," Zapanta said.

The control tower also verified with runway safety inspectors that the domestic runway was clear of any obstruction at the time Seair's flight landed.

Maintenance work on both runways of the NAIA was conducted daily, Lina said.

Zapanta said all scheduled Seair flights on Monday would push through as scheduled.

By Tarra Quismundo
Philippine Daily Inquirer

shanties ouside the fence? ok u get it? no matter how huge our airport is, but if the tourists see these shanties around the airport's FENCE/perimeters, what would u think the type of impression they get? that's what i mean. they gonna have a culture shock too... that's why shanties around the airport is no good.... even residents who live too close from the airport's primeters/fence is no good as well.... ok my friend? :cheers:

I ASK U MINE FRIEND:)visit clark website or go here in Clark freeport zone..taga villa sol ako:cheers:malapit lang sa clark:lol:

At the manila domestic terminal for my flight for legaspi on ceb pac, i counted at least 200 people standing, because the terminal was fully booked. And this lasted for the 2-3 hours I was there. One of my companions told me that whenever she takes ceb pac out of manila, it is most often like that, overcrowding, standing room only.

Wow, our DOTC and DOT officials seem to be taking their sweet time fixing our terminals.

The domestic terminal in Manila is really a shame, embarassing, dilapidated and a trash.
Shame on you government officials who continue to utilize this old, antiquated domestic terminal. WE deserve better!!!!

I ASK U MINE FRIEND:)visit clark website or go here in Clark freeport zone..taga villa sol ako:cheers:malapit lang sa clark:lol:

no thank you. :)

ano ka ba? di mo ba maintindihan ang sinasabi ko sayo...?!? whew.... :nuts: last na ito uh.... im not saying there are shanties in clark's surroundingss, i said im afraid that the problem in NAIA might happen in DMIA if they didn't do anything about its zonings.... haaayyyyy basahin mo ulit yung previous posts ko pls :ohno:

o cool down na. baka di lang nagkaintindihan ng mga language.

peace tayong lahat dito. basta ang alam ko lang, ayaw ko na sa domestic terminal. kahit pa mas mahal ang bayad sa PAL. ang advantage lang ng domestic terminal ay madaling kumuha ng taxi. actually madali din sa NAIA T2, basta sa Departure ka sa taas kuha. kakaawa talaga tayo. yung Domestic terminal natin...mas magaganda pa ang mga lumang shopping malls sa metro manila. yesterday i was in podium and i was thinking - If only we have a NAIA 1 this nice, eh di ok sana. airports are gateways to the country and it leaves a lasting impression to whoever uses it - especially foreign nationals. if you could only see the trolleys of NAIA1, malayong mas ok ang mga shopping trolleys ng SM Supermarket. :ohno:

^^ :lol: Funny, yet a sad commentary of T1.

kimbro, i know you are aware of this. the trolleys of NAIA 1 are even worse than the trolleys of a typical old suburb grocery store. sira pa ang brakes. :( nakakaiyak talaga. :ohno: naiimagine ko lang yung mga expats at affiliates namin na dumadating sa Pinas, what impression could they have in mind sa airport natin? kahit pa ba sa sobrang posh hotel ka titira, kung airport mo naman ay NAIA1, wala din. most of them naman are using KLM (to GVA), Emirates (to Dubai then to Africa) and I suppose our Asian affiliates (TW, SG, VN, KR, CN and TH) are not flying via PAL naman.

sayang talaga ang NAIA3.

^^ at least libre ang trolleys..:D dito sa JFK, magbabyad ka pa..:lol:

kimbro, i know you are aware of this. the trolleys of NAIA 1 are even worse than the trolleys of a typical old suburb grocery store. sira pa ang brakes. :( nakakaiyak talaga. :ohno: naiimagine ko lang yung mga expats at affiliates namin na dumadating sa Pinas, what impression could they have in mind sa airport natin? kahit pa ba sa sobrang posh hotel ka titira, kung airport mo naman ay NAIA1, wala din. most of them naman are using KLM (to GVA), Emirates (to Dubai then to Africa) and I suppose our Asian affiliates (TW, SG, VN, KR, CN and TH) are not flying via PAL naman.

sayang talaga ang NAIA3.

my wife had a culture shock when she went back home (taguig) last july/06 to attend her grandfather's funeral (ret. army col. amistoso)... on her way back to taguig from naia, first she noticed the problems and bad sights around naia like what u said, and even some security officer begged her for money! overall its still poverty striken, with street children and squatters around the airport are still visible..... but she admired the developments of our infrastructure... its funny though when she first saw the terminal 3, she didn't recognized it as she first thought it was a some sort of "industrial complex", and her sister told her it was the "centennial terminal".... here is a part of that video of that day she arrived in manila, its edited though (my wife was the one taking the video)....

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:cheers:

^^ our condolences po, though belated na.

silent lang ata si mister throughout the trip, :D nakakaaliw naman ang video. hehe...mukhang matagal na nawala si wifey. at significant ang mga nagbago while she was abroad.

i'm not very hopeful anymore that T3 will open up very soon, itext niyo na lang ako pag magoopen na at pupunta ako sa opening ceremony kahit sa labas lang tayo! magdadala ako ng banner that will read: "Whew...Finally!"

^^ our condolences po, though belated na.

silent lang ata si mister throughout the trip, :D nakakaaliw naman ang video. hehe...mukhang matagal na nawala si wifey. at significant ang mga nagbago while she was abroad.

i'm not very hopeful anymore that T3 will open up very soon, itext niyo na lang ako pag magoopen na at pupunta ako sa opening ceremony kahit sa labas lang tayo! magdadala ako ng banner that will read: "Whew...Finally!"


Thank you.

BTW, wala ako dun di ako nakasama dahil sa trabaho ko, ubos na kasi yung vacations ko eh noong namatay si "daddy", tsaka kulang ang datung sayang nga eh...... Yeah since 1998 pa sya nakarating dito, so about 8 yrs syang di nakita ang pinas.... Believe it or not, she only managed to stay there for about a week, na-miss raw nya agad ang canada kaya umuwi agad dito.... Pinagsabihan ko nga eh na wag munang bumalik agad... :D Magkitakits lang tayo lagi dito sa SSC pag merong newly developments, a good one.... Don't worry, i'm pretty sure they will eventually open up the T3.... :)

Ako sana makauwi din this yr...i do every year naman...always PAL T2.

hmm i wonder....should i try T1 this year...havent been there for awhile

i could fly PAL as usual or Qantas or SQ/CX to T1....its juts im so used to T2 already mas efficient it seems

How are you going with your spotting by the way Francis?

no update yet Sou-jiro. i'm so weighed down by my current work. don't worry darating tayo diyan. only that NAIA is not a very good place to do the spotting. or siguro di ko lang alam ang mga dapat puntahan. by the way, you used to be who? :D

@ spearhead, sana nga magopen na ang T3. ayaw ko na rin magspeculate kung kelan magoopen. baka madisappoint na naman tayo. baka mauna pang matapos ang Newport City than NAIA3 opening. nasa CA pala kayo, akala ko kayo ang nandito sa Pinas. baka kayo ang namiss ni wifey kaya bumalik agad. :D

I Thought NAIA Is Like Denver Stapleton Airport, Correct?

Hi @spearhead,

I totally empathise with your wife'e experience, but it could've been worse (any our condolences too).

I swung by the country between Christmas and New Year in December 2007 and I thought, long lines notwithstanding, NAIA T1 is quite a heaven in comparison to the teeming ZOO otherwise known as Heathrow, especially Terminal 3. You would not believe it's a first world airport.

NAIA had long lines at immigration and check-in alright, but I thought MIAA officials were doing their best to keep up with the onslaught of air traffic.

I also thought, it was my airline's fault, not the airport authorities, for creating such a mayhem while checking in - the lady across the counter took ages to process me, buti na lang she agreed to bump me up to business class..!

Last week, I flew to Glasgow where I stayed for a couple of days and again I had to pass through Heathrow Terminal 1, a ghastly excuse for a terminal at supposedly Europe's aviation hub. Buti na lang, my company paid for domestic business class tickets, so I had a few minutes of peace. Can't wait for LHR T5 opening later in 2008 but let's wait and see...

And by the way, GLA's airport is such a mess too - so rickety, NAIA T2 is feels like a first world airport. And BA's Terraces lounge at GLA? Well, two flights to LHR were delayed and it was packed to the rafters.

So, while we can complain about T1, but oh boy, I am still proud of it...

Good day everyone...

my wife had a culture shock when she went back home (taguig) last july/06 to attend her grandfather's funeral (ret. army col. amistoso)... on her way back to taguig from naia, first she noticed the problems and bad sights around naia like what u said, and even some security officer begged her for money! overall its still poverty striken, with street children and squatters around the airport are still visible..... but she admired the developments of our infrastructure... its funny though when she first saw the terminal 3, she didn't recognized it as she first thought it was a some sort of "industrial complex", and her sister told her it was the "centennial terminal".... here is a part of that video of that day she arrived in manila, its edited though (my wife was the one taking the video)....

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:cheers:

I Thought NAIA Is Like Denver Stapleton Airport, Correct?

Apparently you got knocked upside the head. :bash:

Apparently you got knocked upside the head. :bash:

amazing how single celled organisms have evolved and now know how to use the web..ganyan kalakas ang hatak ng internet :D

Actually quite a good point. There is nothing wrong with T1 per se, the problem is we're trying to cram too many people in it. It's way beyond design capacity. Anyway Cebu Pacific is eyeing it and I think they may have a good chance of getting it eventually. By the time T3 opens it may actually hit capacity quite quickly!

For those who don't like the Domestic terminal 5J is fixing it up this year to expand it's capacity. I actually have no problem with it. It's not a flashy terminal but it's fine with me since it's quick to use and cheap.

especially pag wala kang sundo :D tawid ka lang at pwede ka nang mag commute hehe

You're right@bustero. NAIA-Domestic reminds me of London City Airport, which I've used when I was living in nearby Blackheath in Greenwich (I transferred to Twickenham, I dont have a choice but Heathrow na ako).

LCY is pretty small, it has NO airbridges and get this, NO lounges. It does look like a warehouse from outside, but it's main selling point is its proximity to the financial district and a 15-minute check-in.

As pointed out by a lot of forumers, the LCY operating model should be the way to go for NAIA once DMIA is fully-developed.

Actually quite a good point. There is nothing wrong with T1 per se, the problem is we're trying to cram too many people in it. It's way beyond design capacity. Anyway Cebu Pacific is eyeing it and I think they may have a good chance of getting it eventually. By the time T3 opens it may actually hit capacity quite quickly!

For those who don't like the Domestic terminal 5J is fixing it up this year to expand it's capacity. I actually have no problem with it. It's not a flashy terminal but it's fine with me since it's quick to use and cheap.

I found out that Ninoy Aquino Airport Terminal 3 will never open at all.

^^ Please cite your source(s). Otherwise, it's only hearsay and has no basis whatsoever.

I'm afraid it's not hearsay at ALL. I have been waiting for thism airport to open for years and turns out that the opening will be delayed indefinitely. If it is not opened, it will be considered a "stillborn terminal".

^^ Again, who/what is/are your source(s). And if that is your personal opinion (and you are entitled to it), then stating that it'll "never" open is brazen attempt to predict the future of T3.

Jim, you're just frustrating a lot of forumers here with your initial baseless report..... :lol:

I found out that Ninoy Aquino Airport Terminal 3 will never open at all.

OMG.. please tell me you are lying! :bash: :)

meh.. as if it's the first time we heard that "news"

I found out that Ninoy Aquino Airport Terminal 3 will never open at all.

i found out na gagawin daw tong divisoria II
daungan rin ng nahuling isda
at kapapatay lang na mga baboy

From: http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Business&p=49&type=2&sec=27&aid=2008022863

NAIA to be upgraded to handle Airbus 380

Friday, February 29, 2008
The wide body Airbus 380 will be servicing the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) as soon as the NAIA upgrades its facilities and equipment.

Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) general manager Alfonso Cusi said yesterday that the NAIA will upgrade its facilities and equipment in preparation for the Airbus 380, the wide body aircraft that can carry 600 to 1,000 passengers to service Manila.

Cusi said they have discussed with Airbus 380 officials the requirements to enable the Airbus 380 to service Manila.

Cusi said they have to upgrade the runway, terminal, ground facilities, including the service equipment that will be needed including the fire and rescue equipment which are needed considering the height of the Airbus.

“We are also preparing the Terminal 3, so we have to make some provision for Airbus 380 to be able to come to Manila,” Cusi said.

“All those equipment must be ready,” Cusi said.

“Its not just the terminal, its not just the ground equipment, it’s not just the runway but its encompassing all the requirements for the servicing of Airbus 380 that also includes the catering.

“We found it wise to meet with them immediately now so we can have the time to prepare for the Airbus 380 servicing Manila, Cusi said.

The airlines that will be using the Airbus 380 are Singapore Airlines, Emirates and China Airlines. – Rudy Santos

^ Is that really an honest mistake or plain stupidity (1000 passengers???)?.

^^ :lol: Guess they'll put the overflow passengers in the cargo hold. ;)

t-3 will only open when gma is out of office. the gov't needs to pay the contructors in full. the only reason its not open because the gov't can't pay fraport. let fraport operate the terminal because we all know you dont have the money to pay them (gma) . big mistake to take over a terminal when you can't pay the people who build it and suppose to operate the terminal for 20 yrs. the gov't dont even have the funds to pay fraport $200m even if fraport agreed to it. what a stupid mistake to take over a completed terminal and you can't pay for it. the gov't can't even negotiate for $200m because we all know they dont have the money. thats why all we are hearing are excuses. it doesn't take 6 yrs to fix a collapse roof or defects the terminal have. the terminal is still close is because the gov't dont have the money to pay up. stop the excuses (gma) . now she is trying to get forieng investors to build clark/dmia, with the same skim as t-3. build-operate-transfer. im 100% sure thier will be no takers. its hard to believe that she would even propose a deal like that to forieng investors. she must think the chinese,arabs, are fools. i think she is taking too much happy pills. this woman is not in reality.

t-3 will only open when gma is out of office. the gov't needs to pay the contructors in full. the only reason its not open because the gov't can't pay fraport. let fraport operate the terminal because we all know you dont have the money to pay them (gma) . big mistake to take over a terminal when you can't pay the people who build it and suppose to operate the terminal for 20 yrs. the gov't dont even have the funds to pay fraport $200m even if fraport agreed to it. what a stupid mistake to take over a completed terminal and you can't pay for it. the gov't can't even negotiate for $200m because we all know they dont have the money. thats why all we are hearing are excuses. it doesn't take 6 yrs to fix a collapse roof or defects the terminal have. the terminal is still close is because the gov't dont have the money to pay up. stop the excuses (gma) . now she is trying to get forieng investors to build clark/dmia, with the same skim as t-3. build-operate-transfer. im 100% sure thier will be no takers. its hard to believe that she would even propose a deal like that to forieng investors. she must think the chinese,arabs, are fools. i think she is taking too much happy pills. this woman is not in reality.


I believe your analysis has a lot of political color on it... I think this should just be voiced out on the streets of makati or edsa.

From: http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Business&p=49&type=2&sec=27&aid=2008022863

NAIA to be upgraded to handle Airbus 380

Friday, February 29, 2008
The wide body Airbus 380 will be servicing the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) as soon as the NAIA upgrades its facilities and equipment.

Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) general manager Alfonso Cusi said yesterday that the NAIA will upgrade its facilities and equipment in preparation for the Airbus 380, the wide body aircraft that can carry 600 to 1,000 passengers to service Manila.

Cusi said they have discussed with Airbus 380 officials the requirements to enable the Airbus 380 to service Manila.

Cusi said they have to upgrade the runway, terminal, ground facilities, including the service equipment that will be needed including the fire and rescue equipment which are needed considering the height of the Airbus.

“We are also preparing the Terminal 3, so we have to make some provision for Airbus 380 to be able to come to Manila,” Cusi said.

“All those equipment must be ready,” Cusi said.

“Its not just the terminal, its not just the ground equipment, it’s not just the runway but its encompassing all the requirements for the servicing of Airbus 380 that also includes the catering.

“We found it wise to meet with them immediately now so we can have the time to prepare for the Airbus 380 servicing Manila, Cusi said.

The airlines that will be using the Airbus 380 are Singapore Airlines, Emirates and China Airlines. – Rudy Santos


A380 can carry only upto 800+ pax

China Airlines didn't order any A380, did they?

^^ based on the article, it seems that they're not expecting the t3 to open anytime soon but at least they mentioned that terminal being modified to accomodate the A380...

Jim, you're just frustrating a lot of forumers here with your initial baseless report..... :lol:

I was just saying that the airport's opening may be postponed indefiniotely. If I hear the word "indefinitely", it would mean that a very bad thing will happen for the duration of our lifetimes. I heard this from various sources, including Wikipedia. That word would mean "permanently". I say the Terminal 3 needs to open before 2010.

^^ wikipedia isn't a "source" IHMO... unless it was backed by an article from the Airport general himself--Cusi..

I was just saying that the airport's opening may be postponed indefiniotely. If I hear the word "indefinitely", it would mean that a very bad thing will happen for the duration of our lifetimes. I heard this from various sources, including Wikipedia. That word would mean "permanently". I say the Terminal 3 needs to open before 2010.

First up, you're assuming. And we all know what happens when you "assume." ;) Next, you're very superstitious. Just because the word "indefinitely" was often used with regards to T3 doesn't mean that "bad things" will happen to it.

gma did alot of good things to our country and economy. light years better than erap,that old fool. but regarding to t-3, it was a big mistake to take over when you dont have the funds to pay for it.

Sigh @ the openning of T3, I'm sure they will let it open it someday when it's too late already, perhaps a domestic airport or what. They are continously building the roads and overpasses leading to T3 so, somehow they will have it openned someday. It maybe under the same regime or another...

As far as Singapore airlines, serving Manila with their 380? I seriously they would do that it's too close to Manila, I maybe wrong though.. I can see Emirates or Ethiad sending 380s to Manila because of it's distance and the big influx of OFW in that region...

i can see Singapore, Cathy & Korean carries using A380 here in Manila..theres a market there

If SQ, CX, KE, and maybe even JL deploy A380s to MNL, I believe they'll trade/sacrifice their daily/weekly flight frequencies for passenger loads. Unless demand is high to warrant multiple frequencies using the A380 from their respective hubs.

Departure to bangkok. Taken last Feb. 25, 2008
http://images.miguelpaolo2011.multiply.com/image/3/photos/52/600x600/5/DSC08630.JPG?et=2pH2E5ICxuN2vYuhW5KdpA&nmid=84209338
NAIA Terminal 1 Departure Area

I think their having renovations in some of their gates. :lol:

T3 will be opened eventually.... :)

saw sa cnn, Beijing has opened their new T3, i saw this when i went there nung novermber, ang laki sobra...tpos sa 2010 magtatayo ulit sila ng bagong terminal. took them 4 years to build BCIA T3, eh tayo, NAIA T3 hanggang ngayon wala pa. malabo na magbukas this year. sad.

did manila ever receive a world's best airport in the not so distant past???

^^ Don't think there was such an award back then in the not-so-distant-past. ;)

photos courtesy of www.daylife.com (they got it from getty images)

image taken on sept 24 2007
i noticed that they tore down the perimeter fence of the terminal, nag road widening ata...parang kayang kayang na naten pasukin :lol::lol:

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9749/sept242007pa9.jpg

sept 18, 2007
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7832/sept182007rf8.jpg

sept 18,2007
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2222/sept1812007ey9.jpg

^^ang ganda nya talaga sana..:ohno:

...lang , mabuksan.

...bukas

yeh not bad...its actually quite beautiful....san maayos pa yan ...

ph
sept 18, 2007
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7832/sept182007rf8.jpg

sept 18,G]

pede tong panglaban sa photo contest d2

I just came back from Saigon. Here are the latest pictures of the new Saigon International Terminal.

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/vn_air1.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/vn_air2.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/food1.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/food2.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/a-504.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/a-505.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/a-507.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/a-508.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/a-510.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/a-921.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/a-923.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/a-925.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/a-927.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/a-929.jpg

http://www.tociti.com/sgairport/a-005.jpg

ahh, NAIA thread pala to, kala ko Vietnam.

^^ :lol: Kaya nga baka sa Vietnam na lang ako umuwi... masarap ang Pho' soup nila. :D

welcome back to the Philippines hehehe. ganda airport nila ah...no wonder na pati sila ma overtaken na tayo, partida na nag civil war pa dun.

i love pho.. golly.

hey. even saigon airport has big screen tvs in the boarding area. darn it!

but i'm happy for them... they suffered in the vietnam war after all.

.....maybe NAIA3, all it's supporting roads and overpasses, the Marriott, Newport City, will have one grand opening all at the same time when everything if fully completed and functional.....just an optimistic prediction :okay:

Mas maganda sana yuong interior ng T3 ng NAIA. Medyo para yatang hawig ng Iloilo airport yuong Saigon International? Mas malake lang ang huli kaysa Iloilo.

Departure to bangkok. Taken last Feb. 25, 2008
http://images.miguelpaolo2011.multiply.com/image/3/photos/52/600x600/5/DSC08630.JPG?et=2pH2E5ICxuN2vYuhW5KdpA&nmid=84209338
NAIA Terminal 1 Departure Area

I think their having renovations in some of their gates. :lol:
tawanan ba naman ang renovation sa gates, natawa tuloy ako sayo!:lol: at least kahit papaano, ang P750 na terminal fee mo eh mapupunta sa gate :lol::banana:

welcome back to the Philippines hehehe. ganda airport nila ah...no wonder na pati sila ma overtaken na tayo, partida na nag civil war pa dun.

Wala silang sinabi sa atin dahil tayo nga ay nakakailang Peoples Power na.:lol: :bash: Dahil yan ang sigaw ng mga gagong politiko sa bawat kunting utot. Ang tingin nila sa sarili nila ay ang lilinis nila at hindi gumagawa ng mga kalokohan. Hmmmmmmmmmmm Kawawa ka naman Pinas kong mahal.

The new terminal in Vietnam looks like if you combined NAIA's T2 and T3's architecture and interior design, ngunit mas maganda pa rin ang ating T3. Heh heh.

This came out in today's SCMP print edition (it is also in their website, but you'd have to subscribe to read the entire article). As I read it, it struck me how differently a Filipino would deal with the mishaps the author had to go through.

I thought it would be good to send this to the NAIA management, but in vain have I tried to look for a website or an e-mail address.

Read on and enjoy!

Manila madness makes me out to be a first-timer
ALAN ALANSON
Banker/Road Warrior
South China Morning Post
Mar 02, 2008

A lot of the people I come across on planes seem to be experiencing air travel for the very first time ... particularly this morning. After explaining to the chap who was in my seat when I got on board the plane that the large numbers and letters on his boarding pass are an indication of where he is expected to sit, I am squashed up against the window in economy class watching four stewardesses try to get 200 people, each with two or three large plastic bags of carry-on luggage, to sit down, stop talking on their phones, leave their seats upright and fasten their seat belts long enough for the plane to take off.

It doesn't work of course. As soon as the flight attendants do up their own seat belts, out come scores of mobile phones, and texting and calling begin again.

And what am I doing here in this economy class pandemonium?

Well, I'm on my way to Manila and, thanks to several factors, I'm flying economy. But the flight is fairly short, and with my iPod on my head and my eyes closed, I manage to endure the trip without having a panic attack.

Once on the ground in the Philippines, everyone stands up the moment the plane touches down. The flight attendants go into action, but to little avail.

Once off the plane, I endure the mild embarrassment of not tipping the three-piece band playing "When the Saints Go Marching In" as I walk past.

Manila must be the only airport in the world that has live music playing as you disembark. It must be very disheartening to watch thousands of people rush past without so much as a nod.

Once through immigration, I find my way to my car and, although the driver gets lost on the way, nobody at the first meeting seems to mind my late arrival.

Meetings in the Philippines are always entertaining. Any major client is almost always going to be a family company. So the meeting will include a lot of people with the same last name, and a surprising number of folks who look like teenagers. It is important to understand that you are meeting the right people--those teenagers have more money than you can imagine.

As soon as you begin speaking, the entire room will take out at least one of their phones and start sending text messages. Don't take it as a sign that they're not listening. People here are quite confident texting while listening to a presentation from a banker, just as they can text while watching a movie, text while having dinner with their wives, or text on one phone while talking on another.

I'm returning the same day and I soon find myself back at the airport. Wherever I can I use e-tickets, a brilliant innovation that makes it unnecessary to carry a plane ticket any more. Unfortunately, it has its downside.

"Passport and ticket," says the security guard at the entrance. I hand over my passport and say: "I don't have a ticket. Mine's an e-ticket."

"Please show me the printout of your e-ticket," says the guard.

"I don't have a printout. I get an e-ticket so I don't have to carry a ticket or anything else."

"Sorry. No entry without a ticket or printout," he explains without even the slightest hint that he sees the problem this clearly creates for me.

After explaining myself at length to him, I learn that in another part of the airport building it is possible to get a printout.

Once I find this door and someone eventually turns up to help all of the people waiting, I am able to get hold of a printout of my e-ticket. By this time, unfortunately, I am running very late.

I cut queues, I run through the terminal, I apologise to people I bump into, and I argue with the airline staff who tell me that I'm already too late and I make it just on time. I slump red-faced into my economy class seat, still clutching my passport, my shoes and my belt, which I didn't have time to put back on after the security made me take them off.

As I am catching my breath, I'm sure I hear somebody behind me say: "A lot of peple you see on airplanes are travelling for the very first time."

(Contact Alan Alanson at alan@alanalanson.com)

^ That's the funny thing about e-ticket.... and I may be old fashion however I am uncomfortable travelling without a print out of my e-ticket. :)

There is this semi-official (?) website of NAIA (http://www.manila-airport.net/) that seems to have been updated recently. It says:

In 2007, the airport handled 21,261,133 passengers. This was a 20.4% growth in passenger numbers compared to 2006, placing the airport 59th worldwide in terms of passenger traffic. The Domestic Terminal is undergoing expansion as of early 2008.

If it grew 20.4%, that makes it probably to the top 5 airports worldwide. Has anyone got the stats for 2007?

^ That's the funny thing about e-ticket.... and I may be old fashion however I am uncomfortable travelling without a print out of my e-ticket. :)

Continental Airlines is testing out a system that will allow you to use your cell phone or PDA as a boarding pass. Just download the code sent by the airline and that is all you need... no more paper.

http://www.crowdspirit.com/blog/images/continental_cell_phone_boarding_pass_425.jpg

http://www.crowdspirit.com/blog/2007/12/16/continental-accepting-a-cell-phone-as-boarding-pass/
(http://www.crowdspirit.com/blog/2007/12/16/continental-accepting-a-cell-phone-as-boarding-pass/)

That article should be brought into the attention of the both the media (may partner ba ang SCMP here) and the airport to get them to actually do something about it.

The problem is not the media , having it printed out is really stupid, kaya nga high tech, the problem is the fake security procedures we have here. Changi, CLK, etc don't have these checking of the tickets before you enter the airport and yet their security rating is higher than ours!!!!!!!

Yellow cabs at NAIA (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20080304-122780/Yellow-cabs-at-NAIA)

MANILA, Philippines -- A piece of New York will now welcome tourists, balikbayans (returning overseas Filipinos) and business travelers to Manila as yellow cabs have joined the fleet of airport taxicabs in the country’s premier hub.

Starting Wednesday, taxis in Manhattan yellow will line up to ferry arriving passengers at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) terminals for a new metered taxi service.

The Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) launched the new taxi service at the NAIA Centennial Terminal on Tuesday afternoon as an alternative offering to accredited coupon taxis that charge at a fixed rate by destination.

“We are proud to have initiated and spearheaded this new service that we are offering to passengers and airport users. Now, they have a cheaper but safe mode of transportation,” said MIAA General Manager Alfonso Cusi said in a statement.

Takenaka seeks reconsideration anew

http://www.bworld.com.ph/BW030508/content.php?id=053

JAPANESE FIRM Takenaka Corp. is asking the government anew to allow it to complete the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3 (NAIA-3) after it was taken out of the project for its failure to meet safety standards.


Takenaka ‘is still there,’ said Transportation Secretary Leandro C. Mendoza. — Phot by Jonathan L. Cellona Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) General Manager Alfonso G. Cusi said this is the third time that Takenaka had sought for reconsideration from the government.

"Takenaka gave us a letter last week signifying their willingness to work. I would not prejudge it, but I would say that we are evaluating it. We will reply to their letter tomorrow [today]," he said in a telephone interview yesterday.

MIAA last month terminated talks with Takenaka, the original contractor for the mothballed airport terminal project.

Transportation Secretary Leandro C. Mendoza declined to say if Takenaka is now fully out of the picture, saying only that "it’s still herethey filed for reconsideration and there’s no action yet." He stressed the government will not operate the NAIA-3 until all "structural defects" are repaired.

Mr. Cusi said his agency is also awaiting the Government Procurement Policy Board’s decision on whether the government can do away with a competitive bidding for a new contractor and instead proceed with a negotiated bidding. "I requested the board just yesterday to conduct a special board meeting to discuss this issue so we won’t waste more time. We want to know their decision. We are actually ready to bid it out, but that will take time," he said.

He stressed the government’s third-quarter target to open NAIA-3 would no longer be realistic if another competitive bidding were to be conducted.

Solicitor General Agnes V.S.T. Devanadera had earlier said her agency had issued a legal opinion on the matter, saying public bidding was not needed for the remediation, as the project needs to be completed immediately.

MIAA Assistant General Manager Junie Paras, for his part, had said the state lawyer’s legal opinion should allow them to immediately scout for a new contractor. MIAA has so far received a formal proposal from Singaporean firm CNA Group Ltd. on a turnkey basis, he said. CNA Group had yet to confirm the offer in an e-mail inquiry as of yesterday afternoon.

Turnkey is an undertaking by which the contractor supplies, installs, or purchases items for a project that is ready for immediate use, occupation, or operation. The contractor is paid after start of the project’s full operation.

In 2003, the Supreme Court voided the contract with investor Philippine International Air Terminals Co., Inc., citing irregularities. The facility has remained unopened due to disputes over compensation.

The government has been wary of Takenaka’s work, especially after the collapse of a portion of the airport’s ceiling in 2006. — Bernardette S. Sto. Domingo

Yellow cabs at NAIA (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20080304-122780/Yellow-cabs-at-NAIA)

MANILA, Philippines -- A piece of New York will now welcome tourists, balikbayans (returning overseas Filipinos) and business travelers to Manila as yellow cabs have joined the fleet of airport taxicabs in the country’s premier hub.

Starting Wednesday, taxis in Manhattan yellow will line up to ferry arriving passengers at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) terminals for a new metered taxi service.

The Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) launched the new taxi service at the NAIA Centennial Terminal on Tuesday afternoon as an alternative offering to accredited coupon taxis that charge at a fixed rate by destination.

“We are proud to have initiated and spearheaded this new service that we are offering to passengers and airport users. Now, they have a cheaper but safe mode of transportation,” said MIAA General Manager Alfonso Cusi said in a statement.

Pink would have been better:lol:

Takenaka seeks reconsideration anew

http://www.bworld.com.ph/BW030508/content.php?id=053

JAPANESE FIRM Takenaka Corp. is asking the government anew to allow it to complete the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3 (NAIA-3) after it was taken out of the project for its failure to meet safety standards.


Takenaka ‘is still there,’ said Transportation Secretary Leandro C. Mendoza. — Phot by Jonathan L. Cellona Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) General Manager Alfonso G. Cusi said this is the third time that Takenaka had sought for reconsideration from the government.

"Takenaka gave us a letter last week signifying their willingness to work. I would not prejudge it, but I would say that we are evaluating it. We will reply to their letter tomorrow [today]," he said in a telephone interview yesterday.

MIAA last month terminated talks with Takenaka, the original contractor for the mothballed airport terminal project.

Transportation Secretary Leandro C. Mendoza declined to say if Takenaka is now fully out of the picture, saying only that "it’s still herethey filed for reconsideration and there’s no action yet." He stressed the government will not operate the NAIA-3 until all "structural defects" are repaired.

Mr. Cusi said his agency is also awaiting the Government Procurement Policy Board’s decision on whether the government can do away with a competitive bidding for a new contractor and instead proceed with a negotiated bidding. "I requested the board just yesterday to conduct a special board meeting to discuss this issue so we won’t waste more time. We want to know their decision. We are actually ready to bid it out, but that will take time," he said.

He stressed the government’s third-quarter target to open NAIA-3 would no longer be realistic if another competitive bidding were to be conducted.

Solicitor General Agnes V.S.T. Devanadera had earlier said her agency had issued a legal opinion on the matter, saying public bidding was not needed for the remediation, as the project needs to be completed immediately.

MIAA Assistant General Manager Junie Paras, for his part, had said the state lawyer’s legal opinion should allow them to immediately scout for a new contractor. MIAA has so far received a formal proposal from Singaporean firm CNA Group Ltd. on a turnkey basis, he said. CNA Group had yet to confirm the offer in an e-mail inquiry as of yesterday afternoon.

Turnkey is an undertaking by which the contractor supplies, installs, or purchases items for a project that is ready for immediate use, occupation, or operation. The contractor is paid after start of the project’s full operation.

In 2003, the Supreme Court voided the contract with investor Philippine International Air Terminals Co., Inc., citing irregularities. The facility has remained unopened due to disputes over compensation.

The government has been wary of Takenaka’s work, especially after the collapse of a portion of the airport’s ceiling in 2006. — Bernardette S. Sto. Domingo

blah blah blah blah blah.. never ending i tell you.. ala telenovelas..

yep...the NAIA 3 soap opera never seems to end.

Will Singapore contractor be tapped to finish terminal?
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news5_mar5_2008

THE government plans to tap the Singaporean firm CNA Group to finish Terminal-3 of the international airport after deciding to terminate the services of Japanese firm Takenaka Corp., an official said yesterday.

Alfonso Cusi, general manager of the Manila International Airport Authority, made the statement even as President Arroyo signed into law an act creating the Civil Aviation Authority, which is aimed at boosting aviation standards.

...

Cusi said Takenaka last week asked to be allowed to finish the terminal, which has not been used because officials are questioning its soundness.

“About 20 sub-contractors of Takenaka have formed a consortium to be headed by the Singaporean group,” he said.

“If they are chosen, the price might even be lower than what was pegged by Takenaka because we now remove their profit value as the main contractor.”

CNA, a Takenaka sub-contractor, is among Singapore’s top 50 companies and has completed big-ticket projects such as the Nanyang Polytechnic University and the Yangon International Airport.

The group is now expanding the Changi International Airport and Changi Prison Complex-B in Singapore.

Cusi said the airport authority’s board was “being very careful” about Takenaka’s request to finish Terminal-3.

“We have to study it carefully. This is already their third request, and it might amount to nothing again,” he said.

Cusi said the airport authority had already requested the Government Procurement Policy Board to rule on its motion to have another contractor designated for the terminal.

Airport officials had suspended Takenaka as the project’s contractor for refusing to acknowledge experts’ declaration of structural defects in the terminal after a portion of its ceiling collapsed in March 2006.

Takenaka is a sub-contractor of Philippine International Air Terminals Co., the consortium that won the contract to build the terminal in the mid-1990s.

But the Supreme Court rejected the contract in 2004 after finding the amendments on the original contract were grossly disadvantageous to the government. -- Joyce Pangco Pañares, Roy Pelovello, Macon Ramos Araneta

I'm not a construction expert, but to my perspective point of view, I think what really caused the arrival ceiling's collapse is not due to substandard materials and poor craftsmanship by Takenaka, it is because Terminal 3 started decaying from 2003 because it is not been used after construction has almost finished and thus, not being maintained by PIATCO, and later, by MIAA. So that is the root cause of the collapse. PGMA (sorry for giving a political statement) i think did not want this to be opened because she haven't recieved any kickbacks from this project.

^^ Nah. That sounds crazy. I don't think she would want to hold back an airport just for the sake of getting kick backs from it. We've been waiting since 2002 for this terminal to open; I don't think she's been waiting for that long for money from it.

^^ or if not kickbacks, she wants to really fully develop DMIA as per her announcements on the major investors of DMIA.. pero sana lang buksan na NAIA 3... i see it as a comatose patient that is continuously running out of blood due to the fact that it is not being maintained.

The New Tacloban Airport

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how come all our new airports only have 3 air bridges?

how come all our new airports only have 3 air bridges?

Its because it is not a major airport

ganda naman yang daniel airport!

how come all our new airports only have 3 air bridges?

One for Philippine Airlines.
One for Cebu Pacific Air.
One for Air Philippines.

:rofl:

^ Tsk tsk, SeAir and Asian Spirit won't allow that. :lol:

One for Philippine Airlines.
One for Cebu Pacific Air.
One for Air Philippines.

:rofl:

paano na ang proposed cagayan de oro airport na 2 jetways lang?? :rofl:

^^ Well PR can share with 2P since they're under the same management (I think), and 5J can have the other one. Or else, 5J and 2P will have to jack and poy for the other one since both are LCCs. :lol:

Tsk tsk, SeAir and Asian Spirit won't allow that. :lol:

Seair's and Asian Spirit's aircrafts are prop planes right? Well, their passengers can just walk the tarmac to their planes from the terminal. Mwahahahaha! :devil:

can they even use the aerobridge? (smaller planes) coz sabi nung barkada ko who used to work at the ramp (tama ba ang term) for cebu pacific sa DIA na dati daw yung DC9 nila naglalakad lang daw ang passengers kasi di daw makagamit ng aerobridge..so if the DC9 cant use it, paano na lang ang mga turboprop?

how come all our new airports only have 3 air bridges?

siguro depende sa traffic :) sa DIA 4 ang aerobridge but i have yet to see it na puno ang 4 (since di pa ako nakakasakay na busy hour like yung sa umaga at sa hapon/gabi)

dunno though pag nagkasabay sabay ang PR, 5J, 2P and silkair

edit:

wait NAIA thread to ah? bat dito napost yung diego romualdez terminal?

Puwede gumamit ng aerobridges ang mga smaller aircraft, dc9 and all, except cessnas ofcourse. Kasi, sa DVO and Cebu, even in Manila, yuong mga aerobrideges ay designed para sa mas malalaking eroplano. pero kung gugostohin nila, puwedeng pagawaan ng aerobridges. Dito sa amin. Maliliit na eroplano, gaya ng CRJ, ginagamitan ng mababang aerobridges. Dati, yuong mga turbo props, hindi din, obviously, for safety, it has an open propellers, but those with enclosed engines, I don't think there would be trouble for it.

Gusto ko rin yuong Romualdez Airport, mukhang world class ...

ic nagulat nga ako nung sabihin nung barkada ko na nung DC9 daw gamit nila di daw gumagamit ng aerobridge

;18871988']ic nagulat nga ako nung sabihin nung barkada ko na nung DC9 daw gamit nila di daw gumagamit ng aerobridge

affirmative! the last time i used cebpac's dc-9 dvo to manila around 2005 yata, naglakad talaga kami sa tarmac papunta sa eroplano. And it was a mid-afternoon flight. ^^

;18869004']can they even use the aerobridge? (smaller planes) coz sabi nung barkada ko who used to work at the ramp (tama ba ang term) for cebu pacific sa DIA na dati daw yung DC9 nila naglalakad lang daw ang passengers kasi di daw makagamit ng aerobridge..so if the DC9 cant use it, paano na lang ang mga turboprop?



siguro depende sa traffic :) sa DIA 4 ang aerobridge but i have yet to see it na puno ang 4 (since di pa ako nakakasakay na busy hour like yung sa umaga at sa hapon/gabi)

dunno though pag nagkasabay sabay ang PR, 5J, 2P and silkair

edit:

wait NAIA thread to ah? bat dito napost yung diego romualdez terminal?

wa, always full and 4 aero bridges ng dia kung morning, lunch flights....sabay sabay kasi ang dating ng 2 5j flights, 1 pal flight and 1 2p flight.

affirmative! the last time i used cebpac's dc-9 dvo to manila around 2005 yata, naglakad talaga kami sa tarmac papunta sa eroplano. And it was a mid-afternoon flight. ^^

the reason 5j did not want to use the aerobridge was that they did not want to pay for the usage fee... ang dami nagreklamo sa 5j. so no choice sila but to use the aerobridge.

when ceb pac had the DC9, to use the airbridge in Cebu, they had to use a connecting bridge made out of steel, as the airbridge couldn't go low enough to connect direct to the plane. In Manila, we will never know, because Ceb Pac never had the opportunity to use any aerobridge in Manila with the DC9.

^^ Nearly four years ago (when Cebu Pacific's fleet was still composed of DC9s and 757s), Cebu Pacific's "Early Bird" flights from Cebu would deplane at NAIA's terminal 1. And, we were able to use the aero-bridge/jetway/boarding-bridge.

Wasn't too keen to notice those aerobridge-to-plane connecting platforms, though.

I was thinking the same Cebuano, I remember seing 5J in Terminal 1 NAIA, and even in the pictures, so, defenitely DC9 can be connected to aerobridges... I wasn't just sure at first because I have never flown with 5j even to date.

I was thinking the same Cebuano, I remember seing 5J in Terminal 1 NAIA, and even in the pictures, so, defenitely DC9 can be connected to aerobridges... I wasn't just sure at first because I have never flown with 5j even to date.

On the two instances I flew within the US via DTW from PHL, NW used ageing DC9s and we used the aerobridges at PHL and at DTW. BTW, the DC9 used the much larger concourse A of the DTW McNamara Terminal. My connecting flights were both much smaller, 50 seater CRJs (DTW-SBN and SBN-MSP on my way to SFO) AND we used the aerobridges at DTW, SBN and MSP. In fact, even much smaller and prop driven SAAB 340 (30 - 36 seats) used by NW are also connected via aerobridges to DTW, but of course, at Concourses B and C at DTW.

Hope this helps...!

And BTW, I'd choose PR and 5J over NW's US domestic flights...

Manila Hotel petitions to take over Terminal-3 (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=business5_mar10_2008)

In a move that could set back the opening of the Terminal-3, the Manila Hotel has formally sought court intervention for it to take over the unfinished terminal, claiming it had already acquired at least 20 percent equity within the controversy-ridden Terminal-3 contractor, Piatco.

The Manila Hotel late last month filed twin motions before the Supreme Court, essentially asking the tribunal that the unfinished airport terminal be now turned over to the hotel controlled by Philtrust Bank owner Emilio Yap.

Manila Hotel president Jose Lina Jr. claimed that the hotel was “imbued with nationalistic fervor” to relieve the government of the millions needed to repair the defective terminal and the P3-billion expropriation cost granted by the Supreme Court to Piatco, and its German partner, Fraport.

In addition to the 20 percent stake, the Manila Hotel has also signed agreements to acquire the 30 percent of Fraport and 31.44 percent of the Cheng Yong group, making the hotel the controlling owner of Piatco, Lina claimed.

And, to help advance its “nationalistic fervor” strategy to claim ownership of the proposed international gateway terminal for Metro Manila, the Manila Hotel promised to annually donate 50 percent of any net profit from the Terminal-3 operations to the Philippine National Red Cross, the Department of Social Welfare and Development, the Caritas program of the Catholic Church, the armed forces and the police.

As expected, the Manila Hotel proposal was instantly met with derision by the Asia’s Emerging Dragon Corp., the original proponent of Terminal-3.

“If you think the Manila Hotel can run a world-class terminal, all you have to do is compare the hotel now with how it was before when it was owned by the government,” said an AEDC lawyer, who asked not to be identified by name. “The Philtrust Bank head office compound on United Nations Avenue even looks like a dump.”

never ending controversy...

Just wondering if these figures are accurate. If they are, then 2007 was rather impressive.

2007 FIGURES
The NAIA website (http://www.manila-airport.net) reported that "in 2007, the airport handled 21,261,133 passengers. This was a 20.4% growth in passenger numbers compared to 2006, placing the airport 59th worldwide in terms of passenger traffic."

2005 and 2006 FIGURES
Meanwhile, Airport Technology (http://www.airport-technology.com) reported that "in 2006 NAIA handled an estimated 17.7 million passengers. This showed an 8.9% growth in passenger numbers from the 2005 figures (16,193,611) and placed the airport as the 72nd busiest worldwide in terms of passenger traffic." (In some previous post, I read 10.6% growth for 2006.)

2004 FIGURES
Google Answers (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=563670) says that in 2004, it handled 15,187,000 passengers, and was ranked 73rd.

I know my sources may not pass muster in a dissertation. Notwithstanding, if NAIA is indeed growing at this pace, it can reach 30M passengers in no time at all.

^^indeed:)

Just wondering if these figures are accurate. If they are, then 2007 was rather impressive.

2007 FIGURES
The NAIA website (http://www.manila-airport.net) reported that "in 2007, the airport handled 21,261,133 passengers. This was a 20.4% growth in passenger numbers compared to 2006, placing the airport 59th worldwide in terms of passenger traffic."

2005 and 2006 FIGURES
Meanwhile, Airport Technology (http://www.airport-technology.com) reported that "in 2006 NAIA handled an estimated 17.7 million passengers. This showed an 8.9% growth in passenger numbers from the 2005 figures (16,193,611) and placed the airport as the 72nd busiest worldwide in terms of passenger traffic." (In some previous post, I read 10.6% growth for 2006.)

2004 FIGURES
Google Answers (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=563670) says that in 2004, it handled 15,187,000 passengers, and was ranked 73rd.

I know my sources may not pass muster in a dissertation. Notwithstanding, if NAIA is indeed growing at this pace, it can reach 30M passengers in no time at all.

Probably 30 million by the end of next year!...from my estimates:)

Now, compare that with the top 30 airports: http://www.forbes.com/2007/03/22/worlds-busiest-airports-biz-logistics-cx_rm_0322airports_slide_2.html?thisSpeed=15000, particularly their growth rate. (If you trust Wikipedia, click here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_busiest_airports_by_passenger_traffic))

Just wondering if these figures are accurate. If they are, then 2007 was rather impressive.

2007 FIGURES
The NAIA website (http://www.manila-airport.net) reported that "in 2007, the airport handled 21,261,133 passengers. This was a 20.4% growth in passenger numbers compared to 2006, placing the airport 59th worldwide in terms of passenger traffic."

2005 and 2006 FIGURES
Meanwhile, Airport Technology (http://www.airport-technology.com) reported that "in 2006 NAIA handled an estimated 17.7 million passengers. This showed an 8.9% growth in passenger numbers from the 2005 figures (16,193,611) and placed the airport as the 72nd busiest worldwide in terms of passenger traffic." (In some previous post, I read 10.6% growth for 2006.)

2004 FIGURES
Google Answers (http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=563670) says that in 2004, it handled 15,187,000 passengers, and was ranked 73rd.

I know my sources may not pass muster in a dissertation. Notwithstanding, if NAIA is indeed growing at this pace, it can reach 30M passengers in no time at all.

Probably 30 million by the end of next year!...from my estimates:)

Someone is smoking something!!! LMAO

^^:hahano: i believe im making a pretty educated guess about NAIA reaching 30 million by the end of 2009. From 2006-2007 passenger traffic increased by about 3.5 million...say passenger traffic increased by just half a million for the next two years, so by end of 2008: about 4million and by end of 2009:4.5 million...add that to the 2007 figures and you would just about get 30 million passengers...and thats just with a modest growth rate of half a million passengers per year...

Now, compare that with the top 30 airports: http://www.forbes.com/2007/03/22/worlds-busiest-airports-biz-logistics-cx_rm_0322airports_slide_2.html?thisSpeed=15000, particularly their growth rate. (If you trust Wikipedia, click here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World%27s_busiest_airports_by_passenger_traffic))
the growth rate of 20.4% more passengers for NAIA was more than double that of any of the fast growing Asian airports on that list:)..this would make NAIA one of the fastest growing airports in the world, no?..

Exactly. In somebody's previous post (sorry I don't remember where it is), I think there were only two airports in the top 30 who have grown more than 20% in 2005 or 2006 and those two airports are in China.

Compare that to Changi in 2007. Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2008/01/28/afx4579593.html) reported that "Singapore's Changi Airport handled record passenger traffic of 36.7 million in 2007, up almost 5 percent from the previous year, the government said Monday.

"Last year's passenger traffic broke the previous record of 35.03 million set in 2006 and was driven by strong growth in China and India, the airport operator, the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore, said."

Yung passenger count ba is equal to domestic and international passengers? Or international passengers only?

It's both domestic and international activities combined eric. I think this maybe attributed to the cheaper airfares being offered to the public where 5j was the brainchild for lower airfares, I think. I might probably take what Forbes might have reported but wikipedia is almost always questionable.

NAIA sets rules for faster, more secure passenger processing (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20080311-124135/NAIA-sets-rules-for-faster-more-secure-passenger-processing)

Air passengers can look forward to faster and safer check-in and arrival procedures at Manila’s international airport.

Officials of government agencies servicing the airport recently gathered for the first Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) summit and revamped procedures to step up security monitoring and processing time of departing and arriving passengers.

Immigration, customs, quarantine, security and passenger assistance chiefs at the NAIA terminals met for a three-hour conference on Tuesday to better coordinate their operations to prevent passenger queuing and possible security breaches.

They were able to cut down passenger processing time from as long as three hours to the international standard of 45 minutes.

“We want [travellers to know] our policies and procedures so... [they] know what to expect, [they] are not bogged down by unpleasant surprises and there are lesser complaints,” said airport General Manager Alfonso Cusi.

Following the meeting, airport officials came up with an enhanced service program that would delegate security screening exclusively to airport police, prohibit security guards from doing tasks “that will infringe or interfere with the functions of immigration or airlines,” and bar non-passengers from customs and immigration counters to arrest the known practice of illegal facilitation.

NAIA sets rules for faster, more secure passenger processing (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20080311-124135/NAIA-sets-rules-for-faster-more-secure-passenger-processing)
They were able to cut down passenger processing time from as long as three hours to the international standard of 45 minutes.
That is quite an improvement, i wonder what kind of changes they've made...

when i was going back here, there was this korean guy that wudn't cooperate opening his bag, so he got zapped, it was very quick. then they put him aside.
so thats the improvement they made, hehe. i was 4-5th person behind
in japan airport, you dont even have to take your shoes off

^^Lol...so thats their secret...
I guess the airport is the only place in Japan where they let you keep your shoes on...:lol:

ahh, NAIA thread pala to, kala ko Vietnam.

Ganda nman ng airport ng SGN... simple lng pro mganda sna tyo eh mabuksan na mas mganda yung atn sna sa totoo lng.

Faster check-in lines readied to declog terminal (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news5_mar17_2008)

Authorities are looking for ways to hasten passenger processing time from two hours to 45 minutes by reducing the number of checks a passenger has to go through at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport.

Their first step is to discontinue the passport and ticket checks conducted by security guards at the entrance to the departure area.

This and more measures were discussed in a meeting among the Bureau of Immigration, Bureau of Customs, Aviation Security Group-Philippine National Police, Airline Operators Council, Philippine Overseas Employment Agency, and airline operators.

Officials were quick to point out that while they had agreed to reduce the number of times a passenger is frisked to two from five, they would be installing more x-ray machines.

“We hope that when all agreements are in place, we will be able to process passengers within the 45-minute standard,” Manila International Airport Authority general manager Alfonso Cusi said.

“We have discussed the mechanics of works in ensuring a more efficient and effective processing of passengers without affecting the airport’s security,” he said.

“Additional immigration counters at the departure and arrival areas will be put up. Modern passport-reading machines are now being used to detect spurious documents.”

Cusi said the processing of outbound passengers took more than two hours, requiring them to be at the airport at least three hours before their flight.

Passenger backlogs usually start at the airline counters because most airlines use only two or three counters.

“We have already suggested to the airline firms to add at least three counters by putting up improvised counters to accommodate passengers. They were likewise asked to validate plane tickets and not the passports, since inspecting and validating passports are the tasks of Immigration,” Cusi said.

“Compared with its counterparts, [the Ninoy Aquino airport] may be inferior in certain aspects—such as the level of modernity of its facilities and infrastructure—but with people and processes as our focus areas, I am confident [it will carve a niche in the industry that will effectively set it apart from its competitors overseas,” Cusi said.

“We will not give up on our efforts. We are doing this because we want to show to the world that Filipinos are excellent people, that Filipinos are competitive.”

Good God, I'm glad they are doing something about the too much frisking of passengers and adding more check in booths for check ins.

Mabuti naman at naisip na nila gawin yung mga measures na yun. Teka pala, panu sila maglalagay na additional immigration counters, eh ang sikip sikip na nga ngayon.

maglalagay ng tent :) Di to kasi magaling ang mga Pilipino, kapag nandyan na yung problema doon aaksyon tapos hindi pa aayusin ang kanilang solusyon.

Just uploaded this. It gives an idea of what to do and what to avoid, (e.g. see BKK arrival area and wellwishers' area).

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wow,... mag hehello nanaman ako kay terminal 1 this summer,..:lol:
Does anybody know kung kelan magbubukas ung terminal 3?,.
I'm not an airport expert, pero, xobrang naaawa na ako kay terminal 1,.
May bright future ba si terminal 1?,.. :)

Oh yeah, pag bigla na nagiba na yan lagi na maliwanag ang terminal 1 during the day. he he

ei guys uuwi ako sa pinas ngayong summer. 1st time ko uuwi ng mag isa, ano po ba ang kailangan kong gawin? at ano po ba ang mga fees na babayaran ko? baka magancho ako :D

immigration fee, i think is all.

^^ d ko na ba kailangan ng pampadulas :lol:

Saan ka ba manggagaling? Pagdating mo, wala kang babayaran except kung may mga electronics kang dala na hindi mo iuuwi pagalis mo ng Pinas, so, tax lang. Ewan ko ba, marami ang nagsasabi na kailangan kang mag-ipit ng dollar sa passport pagdating sa immigration especially sa custom area. Hinding hindi ko na experience yan kahit kailan, hindi ako nagipit ng dollars kahit saan, may ibang porter na mag-hint sa iyo ng tip pero bawal yuon so hindi ka dapat magbigay. Pagalis mo duon ka may babayaran, sa akin, i think tourist tax or maybe it was called travel tax and then terminal fee, I believe it's 1,500 pesos, per person or per family, and then 500 pesos for terminal fee. The rates might have changed already so.... I believe, for OFWs , terminal fee and travel tax are waved.

^ its almost 1700 for travel tax and 750(or $18.50) for terminal fee..

^^^^ Good Lord!! It was just 3 years ago, now it's that much already? And the facility is still never maintained? Wow!!

Saan ka ba manggagaling? Pagdating mo, wala kang babayaran except kung may mga electronics kang dala na hindi mo iuuwi pagalis mo ng Pinas, so, tax lang. Ewan ko ba, marami ang nagsasabi na kailangan kang mag-ipit ng dollar sa passport pagdating sa immigration especially sa custom area. Hinding hindi ko na experience yan kahit kailan, hindi ako nagipit ng dollars kahit saan, may ibang porter na mag-hint sa iyo ng tip pero bawal yuon so hindi ka dapat magbigay. Pagalis mo duon ka may babayaran, sa akin, i think tourist tax or maybe it was called travel tax and then terminal fee, I believe it's 1,500 pesos, per person or per family, and then 500 pesos for terminal fee. The rates might have changed already so.... I believe, for OFWs , terminal fee and travel tax are waved.

wait di ko gets

so sakaling pag alis ko dala ko ang videocard ko (papuntang singapore...) mag aasemble kasi ako ng bagong PC dun pero sayang naman ang videocard so dadalhin ko na lang..

may babayaran ako?

say from singapore may dala akong mga parts ng PC (processor, motherboard etc) may babayaran din ako?

just tell them youre not bringing any electronics, they wont care
i said the same thing when i was asked

dont put batteries inside your camera either.

Saan ka ba manggagaling? Pagdating mo, wala kang babayaran except kung may mga electronics kang dala na hindi mo iuuwi pagalis mo ng Pinas, so, tax lang. Ewan ko ba, marami ang nagsasabi na kailangan kang mag-ipit ng dollar sa passport pagdating sa immigration especially sa custom area. Hinding hindi ko na experience yan kahit kailan, hindi ako nagipit ng dollars kahit saan, may ibang porter na mag-hint sa iyo ng tip pero bawal yuon so hindi ka dapat magbigay. Pagalis mo duon ka may babayaran, sa akin, i think tourist tax or maybe it was called travel tax and then terminal fee, I believe it's 1,500 pesos, per person or per family, and then 500 pesos for terminal fee. The rates might have changed already so.... I believe, for OFWs , terminal fee and travel tax are waved.

^ its almost 1700 for travel tax and 750(or $18.50) for terminal fee..

salamat mga chong, baka kase may "PROCESSING" fee na ipapatong nila :nuts::ohno:

i think i have to get over my fear of flying soon... baka 16hours of anxiety na naman ako... :(

^^ Take sleeping pill and just sleep it off in flight. :okay:

^^ thanks I will... NO! I NEED TO! :lol:

just tell them youre not bringing any electronics, they wont care
i said the same thing when i was asked

paano kung video card motherboard or processor? syempre naka box yun at medyo malaki pa :( paano kung makita?

^^ sabihin mong hinde akin yan:lol:

lol nice one :D

^^ aus lang yan.. dala ko nga ps2 ko papunta kami dito sa NY.. tinanong kami sa NAIA sabi ko laruan lang namin yan, di na nila pinansin, siguro dahil sa age ko yun noon.. :D

well medyo mali nga naman ang thread na pinagtanungan ko since via DIA ako :D

sa tingin nyo mas maluwag sa provincial airports kaysa sa NAIA?

dala2 ko yung laptop ko at madami ekek na elctronics. tapos tinanong lang ako ng magchechekin ako ng baggage pero pag dating sa scanner, titignan lang na parang SM style pagkadaan sa xray, boyet

nde rin maxadong anal pag pumunta ka ng singapore mula Dia, tiger din ba sasakyan mo? magdala ka ng makakain mahigit tatlong oras din yata yun nde rin di pala pedeng dalhin yung maiinom sa eroplano kahit bumili ka dun sa waiting area nung dia, kukunin lang sayo bago ka sumakay? dala ka na lang ng solid food. me bayad yun sa erline kahit yung mani-mani popcorn


"sa tingin nyo mas maluwag sa provincial airports kaysa sa NAIA?"
parepareho lang!

dala2 ko yung laptop ko at madami ekek na elctronics. tapos tinanong lang ako ng magchechekin ako ng baggage pero pag dating sa scanner, titignan lang na parang SM style pagkadaan sa xray, boyet

nde rin maxadong anal pag pumunta ka ng singapore mula Dia, tiger din ba sasakyan mo? magdala ka ng makakain mahigit tatlong oras din yata yun nde rin di pala pedeng dalhin yung maiinom sa eroplano kahit bumili ka dun sa waiting area nung dia, kukunin lang sayo bago ka sumakay? dala ka na lang ng solid food. me bayad yun sa erline kahit yung mani-mani popcorn


"sa tingin nyo mas maluwag sa provincial airports kaysa sa NAIA?"
parepareho lang!

silkair sasakyan ko lolo tigs :) may pagkain na ata (at least yun nakalagay sa website nila)

yung drinks naalala ko sa bacolod pa boarding na tapos may dala akong mineral water, ang ginawa nung sa gate, pinainom sa akin yung tubig (para siguro makita na oks ang tubig lols) tapos pinadala na sa akin :lol: dunno if ganun ka luwag pag international

ayun, so ilalagay ko na lang sa ilalim ng bag..:D eh isang ream ng marlboro kaya? lols at kung mahuli ano kaya gagawin sa akin?

;19184455']wait di ko gets

so sakaling pag alis ko dala ko ang videocard ko (papuntang singapore...) mag aasemble kasi ako ng bagong PC dun pero sayang naman ang videocard so dadalhin ko na lang..

may babayaran ako?

say from singapore may dala akong mga parts ng PC (processor, motherboard etc) may babayaran din ako?

I think pag permanent resident ka sa ibang bansa pero filipino citizen ka pa rin, mga laptop, camcorder, cameras na iuuwi mo ulit sa bansa na residente ka, walang tax, pero kung iuuwi mo sa pilipinas galing overseas, babayad ka ng tax. KUNG declared mo na may electronic kang dala.. pero gaya ni tigs, sinabi niya na wala, hindi ka na tatanongin or pagbabayarin ng tax. Mga TVs, home surround system na iuuwi mo sa Pilipinas, mahirap ma-conceal, you really have to declare it. Those are taxable items. Baka mga video card na binili mo sa pilipinas, hindi na siguro maka-tax yan.


Silkair is not an LLC, my wife's cousin flew to Singapore from Cebu via Silkair a while back, they provided meal or atleast snacks, depending on the time of your departure, otherwise, snacks and drinks. Do LCC's there really take your drinks before embarkation? what if it's a bottle of soda you kept in your backpack?

ouch mga one year lang kasi balak ko mag stay doon..syempre mag aasemble ako ng PC ko dun..so pag uwi ko magbabayad ako ng tax?

Kung i-declare mo siguro.... pero madali naman sigurong itago ang laptop sa check-in luggage. If you bought it in the Philippines and you really have to keep it in your hand carry, keep the receipt and then show it to them once you return to the Philippines so you can declare it as a personal item. I think older electronics are not really taxable, just the new ones.

ok tnx

so siguro naman pag nagamit na di na ita tax noh?

ei guys uuwi ako sa pinas ngayong summer. 1st time ko uuwi ng mag isa, ano po ba ang kailangan kong gawin? at ano po ba ang mga fees na babayaran ko? baka magancho ako :D

coming home to the Philippines, NO FEES. You don't have to declare any brand-new electronics, because that's not taxable; they're personal effects, and unless you're bringing home commercial quantities of anything, the customs people are entitled to nothing. Any necessary taxes are usually included in your plane ticket.

Going out is a different story.

all the airports are named after a person...soon there will be gloria macapagal airport & cory aquino airport, Alfredo lim airport and jose rizal airport...lol

SC stops Manila Hotel plan to operate NAIA Terminal 3

By Leila Salaverria, Tetch Torres
Philippine Daily Inquirer, INQUIRER.net
First Posted 22:06:00 03/23/2008

MANILA, Philippines--The Supreme Court has thrown out the Manila Hotel Corporation's petition to operate Terminal 3 of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport.

The Court ruled that it could not intervene in the expropriation suit as its December 2005 ruling ordering the government to pay P3 billion to the Philippine International Air Terminals Co. was final.

The high court denied the MHC's motion to intervene, with a prayer for alternative compliance with the ruling, with regard to the government's case against PIATCo and the Pasay Regional Trial Court.

The high court added, though, that its ruling was only in connection with the expropriation case; it did not resolve the MHC motion in relation to the pleading filed by the Lucio Tan-controlled Asia's Emerging Dragon Corporation that asked the Court to compel the government to award it the Terminal 3 contract.

The Pasay RTC had directed the government to compensate PIATCo for the former's takeover of the NAIA Terminal 3, and the order was upheld by the high court in its December 2005 decision.

The government's contract with PIATCo for the construction of the terminal was nullified by the high court in 2003 for being contrary to public policy.

In its March 11 en banc resolution, the tribunal said its 2005 decision has long been handed down and was final. Hence, MHC's attempt to intervene was "unauthorized under our rules of procedure."

"Our 2005 Decision has long become final and executory. Generally, after judgment has become executory, the court cannot amend the same. On the other hand, a motion for intervention may be allowed only before rendition of judgment in the case," it said.

The judgment became final on March 17, 2006.

MHC sought to intervene in the case, contending that in August 2005, it bought 20 percent of PIATCo. In the same month, it said that it also executed an agreement with Fraport AG Frankfurt Services Worldwide where it offered to buy the latter's 3-percent equity shareholdings in PIATCo for $200 million.

MHC also said that it had legal interest in the expropriation case since it was partly owned by the Government Service Insurance System, a government-owned corporation, and acquired the PIATCo shares.

MHC, which is controlled by Philtrust Bank owner Emilio Yap, urged the high court to allow it to operate and manage the NAIA Terminal 3 for 25 years, with 82.5 percent of the profits to be distributed to various government and charitable institutions.

It argued that the December 2005 ruling has not yet been fully complied with, with the high court noting that MHC was intervening so that there would be an alternative method that would "ease compliance with the said Decision by relieving the Republic et. al. from the huge, humongous financial burdens" involved in executing the decision.

Tan's camp described the MHC's intervention as "surreptitious move to snatch [it] from the government."

"What [it] intends to accomplish is to move [the Supreme Court] to award a right to [Manila Hotel] even if it has no cause of action and is unable to assert a cause of action," said Tan counsel Eduardo Ceniza. "It proposes that one who has no right in a controversy and arrives late in the day be awarded the fruits of litigation."

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At NAIA-2...

Baggage carousel area

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NAIA-2 as seen from the parking area

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The control tower and a communications tower

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saigon airport looks beautiful than the two. Sayang talaga ang t3, comparable pa naman siya sa mga yan

Manila Hotel loses bid for Naia-3 (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=politics3_mar24_2008)

Manila Hotel Corp. can neither operate the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal-3 nor intervene in the expropriation case over the facility, the Supreme Court said in a resolution dated March 11.

In a three-page resolution, the Supreme Court said it was dismissing the hotel’s appeal on the fact that its December 2005 decision directing government to pay P3 billion to the Naia-3 builder, Philippine International Air Terminals Co., became final on March 17, 2006.

But the high tribunal said the resolution was only for the government’s expropriation case on the Naia Terminal-3 and does not involve the MHC’s motion on the pleading filed by the Lucio Tan-controlled Asia’s Emerging Dragon Corp. asking the court to compel government to award the Naia-3 contract to AEDC.

In its petition for intervention, the Manila Hotel said it bought 20 percent of Piatco in 2005, and had an agreement with Fraport AG Frankfurt Services Worldwide for the purchase of its 30-percent equity shareholdings in Piatco for $200 million.

The MHC, controlled by Philtrust Bank owner Emilio Yap, urged the high court to allow it to operate and manage the Naia Terminal-3 for 25 years, with 82.5 percent of the profits to be distributed to various government and charitable institutions.

Under its proposal, the MHC promised to donate 50 percent of any annual net profit from the Terminal-3 operations to the Philippine National Red Cross, the Department of Social Welfare and Development, the Caritas program of the Catholic Church, the Armed Forces and the police.

Aside from this “nationalistic fervor,” the petitioner asserted that it has legal interest in the case because it was partly owned by a government-controlled corporation, namely the Government Service Insurance System, and also because it has acquired the Piatco shares.

Since the December 2005 ruling has not yet been fully executed, the petitioner claimed it was proposing an alternative plan that would ease the “humongous financial burdens” from the country if it were to follow the ruling.

In an earlier interview with Vic Agustin of Standard Today’s Cocktales, the camp of taipan Lucio Tan described Manila Hotel’s late intervention to take over the Naia-3 as a “surreptitious move to snatch [it] from the government.”

“What [it] intends to accomplish is to move [the Supreme Court] to award a right to [Manila Hotel] even if it has no cause of action and is unable to assert a cause of action,” said Tan counsel Eduardo Ceniza. “It proposes that one who has no right in a controversy and arrives late in the day be awarded the fruits of litigation.”

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At NAIA-2...



Sinj, san papunta yung plane? Parang hindi yata sa bridge ng domestic ang punta niya? did you also landed on the tarmac and have the airport bus shuttle you to the arrival area?

sa experience ko, yung mga A330 ng PAL na domestic eh sa gitna nagpa park

yung sinakyan ni sinjin would probably be an A330/340 or B747 so sa may gitna or sa right (international) yan mag pa park..at least thats what i experienced pag sumasakay ako ng PAL from davao using A330

ganun pala, or baka nagkataon lang? I think Sinj had a B747, I've read elsewhere. Kami din nung CEB-MNL, sa may bandang right ng Int'l Wing, nagpahuli nga ako ng batch sa shuttle para makakuha ng photos at videos ng airport habang nasa tarmac! :lol: blessing in disguise.

yeah sa natatandaan ko, sa may international wing kami lagi or sa gitna

i think di rin kaya nung left wing ang widebodies? parang pang 737/A320 type lang talaga sya

tignan mo sa google earth, mas malapit ang distance ng mga gate sa left kaysa sa right :)

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ganun nga talaga, yung sa left di kaya ang widebodies..sa gitna or sa international wing lang talaga
sabagay, mangilan ngilan lang naman ang mga domestic destinations na gumagamit ng widebody

Cebu, Davao, GenSan and Puerto Princesa lang ang alam ko

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oo nga ano? nung papuntang Cebu (using B747), I think the first airbridge from the middle was used. kung san connected yung isang wide body aircraft. Mukhang A330 pareho yung nasa gitna. Ngayon ginagamit na rin ng PAL ang mga A320 sa mga international nila. I noticed that they replaced their A330s with 320s on their SG route.

Nice google earth view pala. Pero bakit walang laman ang international wing? kulang na kulang ang mga bridges. Sayang sana bukas na ang T3 para dun na yung ibang international. Gawin na lang domestic lahat sa Centennial.

The control tower and a communications tower

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this picture should be a game.
guess what is the difference?

^^ones cropped:dunno:

^^

Thanks for the photos Sinjin P. Brings back fond memories of my recent trip, flying PAL :yes:

^^ones cropped:dunno:
1 point
game nga e. so, ano pa?

tree leaves on the lower right hand corner just magically disappeared! (actually na crop sya)

Manila Domestic Airport operations back to normal
(http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=113048)
Operations are back to normal at the Manila Domestic Airport after over 50 flights were stalled during a power blackout Tuesday afternoon, the second in four days.

Manual procedures for ticketing, bag inspection and check-in forced passengers to stand in a long queue, in the dark and outside under the sun for hours.

Flights of Cebu Pacific, Asian Spirit and Seair were delayed for at least 3 hours.

Tirso Serrano, Manila International Airport Authority assistant general manager, said the total power blackout occurred due to the 20-year old circuit breaker tripping right before it would have been completely replaced.

Serrano admitted that the Manila Domestic Airport should have been decommissioned four years ago.

"Mahirap ang mainit na klima for the couple of days, tapos mayroon pang big volume. Kaya nagkaroon ng pressure sa electric facility… Kung natupad sana ang strategic plan, Terminal 3 bukas na at terminal 2 na ang domestic," said Serrano.

Airline executives lamented the airport lamented the situation.

“Dahil sa bulto ng pasaherong dumarating delayed ang flights, hindi na nakayanan,” said Rodolfo Garcia, Asian Spirit Vice President for Operation.

“Very hot humid not comfortable at all... no light... we work manual in checking,” said Candice Iyog, Cebu Pacific Vice President for Marketing And Product. ABS-CBN News Channel

if terminal 3 opens, domestic operations go to the triangular terminal

^^ :lol: Triangular Terminal!? That's a first, never heard that before. :rofl:

FYI, T2 is also known as The Centennial Terminal. :okay:

^^it looks like a triangle from above.....hehehe

parang paputok hehe. saw the news about the blackout sa domestic terminal, wawa mga tao, madilim na, mainit na, pawisan pa. tsktsk...here's an image from philstar

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THE DARK AGES: Airline personnel check in passengers using flashlights and emergency lights after a power outage hit the Manila Domestic Airport in Pasay yesterday. Photo By Rudy Santos



Power cut cripples domestic terminal
http://bworld.com.ph/BW032608/content.php?id=073
Marian Grace S. Ramos


A POWER outage in the old Manila Domestic Airport yesterday delayed 51 flights from local carriers Cebu Pacific and Asian Spirit, said the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA), the terminal’s operator.

"We are experiencing technical problem at the Manila Domestic Airport. The management is doing its best to bring back the normal operations within the day. As a result, certain flights have been delayed," MIAA said in a statement.

"We appeal to the public to bear with us as we try to put into place our rehabilitation program for the old domestic terminal. The program is expected to achieve for all a more efficient and reliable passenger service."

A MIAA official, who declined to be identified, said in a telephone interview that the blackout was caused by the breakdown in the circuit breaker at around 6 a.m.

"Basically, it is the terminal that had the problem. A number of flights were affected because check-ins and -outs of passengers were delayed."

The MIAA official noted that the other technical facilities did not experience a shutdown, including the radar system, since these have backup power and are being handled by the Air Transportation Office.

Power was restored at around 3:30 p.m., at which 40% of the terminal started to operate.

Flight cancellation

As of press time, no flight was canceled but the MIAA official said if power was not fully restored before night time, flight cancellation were inevitable.

Fourteen domestic flights of Gokongwei-led Cebu Pacific were affected, while three flights of Turalba-led Asian Spirit were delayed.

Candice Iyog, Cebu Pacific vice-president for marketing and product, said they offered to help MIAA expand the present terminal.

"Cebu Pacific will spend its own money to improve the terminal and had given up its cargo space to give room to arriving and departing passengers. The project should be done before the middle of the year and should make flying a more pleasant experience," she said.

"It affected several of our flights, but we don’t blame them [MIAA]. We understand that to switch to a new system from an old one, some glitches are bound to happen," said Rodolfo A. Garcia, Asian Spirit vice-president for operations.

Earlier in the day, Bing Lina, the airport’s assistant general manager for operations, said backup generators were providing limited electricity but computers were still not functioning.

Television footage showed visibly irate and perspiring passengers spilling onto the waiting area outside the terminal.

1 point
game nga e. so, ano pa?

the others not:lol:

parang paputok hehe. saw the news about the blackout sa domestic terminal, wawa mga tao, madilim na, mainit na, pawisan pa. tsktsk...here's an image from philstar

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THE DARK AGES: Airline personnel check in passengers using flashlights and emergency lights after a power outage hit the Manila Domestic Airport in Pasay yesterday. Photo By Rudy Santos



Power cut cripples domestic terminal
http://bworld.com.ph/BW032608/content.php?id=073
Marian Grace S. Ramos


A POWER outage in the old Manila Domestic Airport yesterday delayed 51 flights from local carriers Cebu Pacific and Asian Spirit, said the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA), the terminal’s operator.

"We are experiencing technical problem at the Manila Domestic Airport. The management is doing its best to bring back the normal operations within the day. As a result, certain flights have been delayed," MIAA said in a statement.

"We appeal to the public to bear with us as we try to put into place our rehabilitation program for the old domestic terminal. The program is expected to achieve for all a more efficient and reliable passenger service."

A MIAA official, who declined to be identified, said in a telephone interview that the blackout was caused by the breakdown in the circuit breaker at around 6 a.m.

"Basically, it is the terminal that had the problem. A number of flights were affected because check-ins and -outs of passengers were delayed."

The MIAA official noted that the other technical facilities did not experience a shutdown, including the radar system, since these have backup power and are being handled by the Air Transportation Office.

Power was restored at around 3:30 p.m., at which 40% of the terminal started to operate.

Flight cancellation

As of press time, no flight was canceled but the MIAA official said if power was not fully restored before night time, flight cancellation were inevitable.

Fourteen domestic flights of Gokongwei-led Cebu Pacific were affected, while three flights of Turalba-led Asian Spirit were delayed.

Candice Iyog, Cebu Pacific vice-president for marketing and product, said they offered to help MIAA expand the present terminal.

"Cebu Pacific will spend its own money to improve the terminal and had given up its cargo space to give room to arriving and departing passengers. The project should be done before the middle of the year and should make flying a more pleasant experience," she said.

"It affected several of our flights, but we don’t blame them [MIAA]. We understand that to switch to a new system from an old one, some glitches are bound to happen," said Rodolfo A. Garcia, Asian Spirit vice-president for operations.

Earlier in the day, Bing Lina, the airport’s assistant general manager for operations, said backup generators were providing limited electricity but computers were still not functioning.

Television footage showed visibly irate and perspiring passengers spilling onto the waiting area outside the terminal.

I thought kalokohan lang ang announcement ng PA yesterday upon arriving at Iloilo Airport yesterday that 5J was delayed due to blackout since we flew from Terminal 2 in Manila (I took PAL) and 5J is expected to arrive few minutes after we arrived.

It goes to show this attitude of ours of love of cramming. If we had rehabilitated the Domestic Terminal before then these kind of inconveniences wouldn't be experience or would be experienced minimally. If I was there, I might have gone bezerk. Also its the prime gateway of Manila for tourists bound for Boracay and the rest of island destinations that DOT has been promoting.

Ang tagal pa nawalan ng kuryente...hanggang 3pm! :ohno:

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katawa naman yung caption: dark ages! niyahahahaha... :lol: bagay na bagay! pang-medieval lang.

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EDITORIAL *— The Age of Darkness
http://philstar.com/index.php?Opinion&p=49&type=2&sec=25
Thursday, March 27, 2008

In the space age, airport officials need to be reminded of the existence of a contraption called a generator — one with sufficient capacity to keep the airport if not air-conditioned, then at least well lighted during power outages. The other day thousands of passengers at the Manila Domestic Airport sweated as they waited in the dark, crowded terminal for flights that were delayed by a blackout.

This story would not be so dismaying if it didn’t happen so often. But it was the second power outage at the airport in just four days. Blackouts often hit even the Ninoy Aquino International Airport, but officials never seem to be properly prepared for such emergencies.

Airport officials blamed decades-old electrical wiring and a busted circuit breaker for the latest blackout. But everyone knows that wiring at the domestic airport is antiquated. That knowledge should have prompted airport officials a long time ago to either upgrade the electrical wiring or else be prepared for power outages by keeping at the ready generators with sufficient capacity to keep flights running on time. The blackout delayed 34 outgoing flights and 17 arrivals. Airline personnel had to rely on flashlights and emergency lights for processing operations.

The incident was the latest reminder that the country’s airport facilities are stuck in the 20th century. Other nations long ago realized that travelers get their first actual impression of a country from airports. Those countries have poured resources into making a good impression, building state-of-the-art facilities that offer a comfortable welcome and sendoff to travelers.

In contrast, the biggest effort of the Philippines in recent years to upgrade the NAIA — the addition of a third terminal — is bogged down in litigation amid a corruption scandal. The state of a country’s airport facilities is often a reflection of the state of the nation itself. If the government wants to persuade the world that the Philippines is open for business despite constant political turbulence, it should first make sure the gateways to the country are functioning properly. At the very least, the country’s airports should have sufficient electricity.

storm crypt's photo of T3. uploaded 03.12.08
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Storm crypt takes a lot of good aerials :applause:

storm crypt's photo of T3. uploaded 03.12.08
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From up above it looks like LAX's Tom Bradley International Terminal.

storm crypt's photo of T3. uploaded 03.12.08
http://flickr.com/photos/storm-crypt/2327958781/in/photostream/

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nde maxadong maapeal sa ere
maganda-ganda lang sa loob

And here's the old hag.
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hindi maganda ang print ng picture na yan, parang may lumot ang tarmac at paligid, hindi naman ganyan pangit tignan sa tarmac side or aerial view ang T1.

sakin lang maganda talaga ang t1, kasi unek ang hugis! pero talagang lumang luma na siya

And here's the old hag.
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hindi maganda ang print ng picture na yan, parang may lumot ang tarmac at paligid, hindi naman ganyan pangit tignan sa tarmac side or aerial view ang T1.



Ganda ganda nga eh... green na green .. :wink2:

Inquirer.net (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20080331-127550/Air-terminals-made-ready-for-travel-rush)

Air terminals made ready for travel rush

By Tarra Quismundo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:23:00 03/31/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- The old international airport terminal and the domestic airport are undergoing expansion in time for the summer travel rush as the hold-up in the opening of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport’s Terminal 3 continues.

As workers complete repairs on NAIA 3 [can anyone confirm that this is actually going on?], airport officials have initiated phased expansion projects in the crowded NAIA Terminal 1 and the inadequate Manila Domestic Airport to keep up with the steady rise in passenger volume.

At NAIA 1, the country’s busiest international port, an extension to the cramped departure level partially opened this week, giving outbound passengers an extra 300 square meters for queuing. Another 300 square meters is currently under construction.

“We’ve been trying to open NAIA 3 for the longest time, but for the meantime what we can do is the careful improvement of the existing terminals because we have to make additional space for passenger needs,” said Tirso Serrano, Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) development and corporate affairs chief.

Serrano said the NAIA 1 departure expansion project would create an additional 600-square meter of lobby space out of curbside area, where passengers may conveniently line up for the initial security screening and check-in.

Outbound passengers now have six entrances into the expanded area. The second half of the expansion is set to be finished this month, Serrano said.

“We are also looking at [doing a] a re-layout of the lobby to give passengers a more wholesome experience, because right now all we have there are equipment related to security,” Serrano added, estimating that between nine and 10 million passengers passed through the old terminal last year.

The MIAA has also expanded the passenger area at the old Manila Domestic Airport, which handles all domestic flights except for those of Philippine Airlines and Air Philippines, which exclusively use NAIA 2 or the Centennial Terminal.

About 20 percent of seating space was added to the domestic airport’s waiting area, while six check-in counters were recently installed to ease the queuing for departure.

hey it's the Inquirer! It should be real!

^^ Matagal ng OPEN ang NIAA 3 diba? .......












...


... open for criticism... :lol:

NAIA TERMINAL 3 NEW IMAGES uploaded jan 13, 08
from planetarra at http://planetarra.multiply.com/photos/album/8/Para_sa_mga_curious_NAIA_Terminal_3

excerpts from her multiply blog
"Here are some photos I took during a semi-visit to the controversial Naia Terminal 3 on Thursday, when the Congress oversight committee (a 20-member group) dropped by to see what's the holdup. Anyways, I only got as far as the departure check-in area. Airport execs did not want reporters tailing their tour for the lawmakers, among them Satur Ocampo, Ruffy Biazon, Teddy Boy Locsin, and Abby Binay.

Ang ganda nga sana. I especially like the V-shaped beams. Sleek, minimalist, and yeah, closed. haha! Sabi ng Miaa, it opens within this year. Sana lang talaga. Sayang eh."


D daw naandar aircon at escalators haha sobrang init daw.

Departure Entrance
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Makati Skyline
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Airline Signage (Wala Padin!)
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Terminal Lawn
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Terminal Roof
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Skylight
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Going to the Restrooms
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Going to Immigration?
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Reception Area
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http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3016/p1090158kr8.jpg

Check In Counters
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http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/820/p1090151uo2.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7994/p1090156mx0.jpg

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Congressmen being given a briefing
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http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/166/p1090167nu7.jpg

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/355/p1090169hx8.jpg

^^ ang ganda talaga ng T3. sayang lang mukhang hindi na ata magagamit.

^^ oo nga.. sayang talaga... i hope they fix the hold-up fast..

Departure Entrance
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4818/p1090137mp2.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4089/p1090138uc3.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6631/p1090155rv1.jpg

Makati Skyline
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2250/p1090139ot7.jpg

Airline Signage (Wala Padin!)
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8933/p1090140ur5.jpg

Terminal Lawn
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3953/p1090141cn1.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5687/p1090142ek8.jpg

Terminal Roof
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3779/p1090144wd8.jpg

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3185/p1090145qo0.jpg

Skylight
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3999/p1090154yb2.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3520/p1090170yk6.jpg

Going to the Restrooms
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/3279/p1090161zh9.jpg

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/9954/p1090152rz1.jpg

Going to Immigration?
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2112/p1090166xi6.jpg

Reception Area
http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/6853/p1090148bc3.jpg

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3016/p1090158kr8.jpg

Check In Counters
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3558/p1090146ft8.jpg

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/820/p1090151uo2.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7994/p1090156mx0.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/1576/p1090157tv8.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8605/p1090150uj4.jpg

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/8265/p1090160he1.jpg

http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7127/p1090171dc4.jpg

Congressmen being given a briefing
http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4689/p1090162bk9.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4682/p1090163xt0.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2574/p1090164ak3.jpg

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7312/p1090165ue3.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/166/p1090167nu7.jpg

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/355/p1090169hx8.jpg

Sigh....

sana maayos na yang mga problema sa T3 dahil super ganda nya lalo na yung view ay makati skyline. yun tipong kapag unang kita mo pa lang sa Pinas ay hahanga ka na agad. salamat @absinthe_888 sa mga pictures.

I thought kalokohan lang ang announcement ng PA yesterday upon arriving at Iloilo Airport yesterday that 5J was delayed due to blackout since we flew from Terminal 2 in Manila (I took PAL) and 5J is expected to arrive few minutes after we arrived.

It goes to show this attitude of ours of love of cramming. If we had rehabilitated the Domestic Terminal before then these kind of inconveniences wouldn't be experience or would be experienced minimally. If I was there, I might have gone bezerk. Also its the prime gateway of Manila for tourists bound for Boracay and the rest of island destinations that DOT has been promoting.

Ang tagal pa nawalan ng kuryente...hanggang 3pm! :ohno:

looks like brownout during comelec counting heheheh

NAIA TERMINAL 3 NEW IMAGES uploaded jan 13, 08
from planetarra at http://planetarra.multiply.com/photos/album/8/Para_sa_mga_curious_NAIA_Terminal_3

Check In Counters
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3558/p1090146ft8.jpg

http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/820/p1090151uo2.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7994/p1090156mx0.jpg

The check-in area looks elegant, uses good material, and generous in space. Looks even better than the check-in area of, say, Suvarnabhumi.

^^ i agree.. its gorgeous..

nakakasakit sa puso....:ohno:

its so sad to hear the deterioration and incapabilities of terminal 1 and knowing that the answer to NAIA's problem is right THERE...waiting...*ARGHHH*

maganda ang design pero parang maikli yata masyado yung check-in counters.... how many counters bang meron dyan? tnx 4 the photos.

Just wanted to add that (some, not all) Philippine projects do not have a monopoly on either corruption or incompetence. I think some people have a tendency to flagellate themselves (especially in front of foreigners) needlessly over these foul-ups, or to magnify the malfeasance.

Just to give a good example that neglect can happen elsewhere: Heathrow's T5, just inaugurated by the Her Majesty the Queen to much fanfare, has been described by the International Herald Tribune (http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/31/business/airport.php) as "one big hub of chaos". It reports today that "British Airways canceled another 54 flights at the new terminal Monday as it struggled with the computerized baggage-handling system that has already led to at least 15,000 pieces of misdirected baggage."

The Press Association (http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5iqZvrvhl3xbfMu2n3bzEmRnmTbCA) reported, on the other hand, that "The Heathrow Terminal 5 (T5) fiasco has led to 28,000 bags being placed in temporary storage and it could take up to a week to get them back to their owners, the Government has announced."

Business Week (http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8VMJJ700.htm) wrote: "The weekend forecast for Heathrow Airport's Terminal 5: choppy, unsettled and likely delays."

And the Times Online (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article3646494.ece) interjected not very kindly: "Heathrow is terminal." In a separate article (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article3642801.ece), it bannered: "Terminal 5 - a culture of neglect. The new terminal has hosted a masterclass in customer disservice."

OT: well atleast their giving hope for the owners unlike me 13 yrs ago, my buggage was stolen and never came back to me by air canada ground crews on my way back to philippines that were mostly operated by filipinos, jamaicans, eastern europeans, and some south americans! we learned it after a year because they were raided by rcmp.

inquire lang...naayos na ba ang taxiway Delta dyan? pwede na daw ba pumasok mga malalaking eroplano?

di pa nga bukas eh

hope it will open this year.

The check-in area looks elegant, uses good material, and generous in space. Looks even better than the check-in area of, say, Suvarnabhumi.

Suvarnabhumi's check in area:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2036/2271255026_e050b99a62.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2153/2270461281_d902d1f7de.jpg?v=0
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2141/2270698489_b9f1077b19.jpg?v=0

I guess beauty really is in the eye of the beholder. :)

And here's the future check-in area at CAT (City Air Terminal) which is set to be operational next year:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/254/90444000vj0.jpg
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6442/91165052ld5.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/45/92372514sw8.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/cHemon2/2008-03%20Baiyoke/IMG_7892.jpg

:)

^ I think Suvarnabhumi's looks better too.

But this guy is obviously a patriotic Thai since he showed irrelevant pics of something else.

Good for you Thai guy! :okay: :)

maganda ang design pero parang maikli yata masyado yung check-in counters.... how many counters bang meron dyan? tnx 4 the photos.

from the PNA
The NAIA-3 is designed to handle 26 aircraft at any given time. It can handle 13 million passengers a year, compared to the 4.5 million presently handled by NAIA 1 and 2.5 million by NAIA 2.

The new terminal also has 140 check-in counters on five islands, compared to 84 at NAIA 1 and 40 at NAIA 2.

It has nine baggage carousels and 120 immigration counters, compared to 82 at NAIA 1 and 25 at NAIA 2. (i think 7 lang baggage carousels ng T3, **** check mga bossing)

Meh napanuod ako dati sa UNTV way back in 2002 about T3. Obviously ginawa ng PIATCO gawa bida sila hehe. anyway, pinakita dun sa show na pinaandar nila lahat ng systems sa T3, nag simulation pa ng passengers for departure at arrival pati baggage system....At nung hindi pa na e expropriate ng govt tong T3, PIATCO was spending P500,000 a day on electricity alone just to keep the terminal running para hindi masira mga equipment. When was the last time the govt fully tested all systems at T3? baka pag pinaandar ac nito kung anung amoy ang lumabas hehe.

I can't understand why "strong republic" president gloria can't get this terminal running. kausapin naman nya fraport, piatco and the chengs sa isang compromise. bayaran yung minimum cost na $230M and let the courts decide on the rest of the amount. prosecute the individuals involved in this fiasco (parang wala, nadidismiss kaso o usad pagong). the former boss of my mother who lives in frankfurt says this T3 issue is big news there.

in the meantime, maghahanap ulet ako ng pics hehehe

^People who check in at CAT won't have to check in at Suvarnabhumi again. So I guess it's somewhat relevant. :)

^People who check in at CAT won't have to check in at Suvarnabhumi again. So I guess it's somewhat relevant. :)

you've taken the irrelevancy (not real word probably) to a new level...

Good for you Thai guy! :okay: :)

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IMO, you ASEANS shouldn't compare your airports... you guys should be proud that most ASEAN cities have really nice airports... one unopened...

You guys should battle it out with the outside world instead! ... say it with me. ONE ASEAN!

you've taken the irrelevancy (not real word probably) to a new level...

Good for you Thai guy! :okay: :)



Sorry! My poor knowledge in English led me to believe that we were talking about the check-in areas! Sorry for the "irrelevancy". (By the way, is "irrelevancy" the same as irrelevance? I'm just curious.) m))

I'm not sure if it's even a real word.. but yeah. But yes.. irrelevance is the same.

Anyway, yes. We were talking about the check-in areas of Suvarnabhumi and NAIA 3.. nothing else.

^I see. Cheers then. (But CAT will essentially be pretty much another check-in area for Suvarnabhumi though. People will view Suvarnabhumi as having two check-in areas in the near future: one at Suvarnabhumi herself, and the other one at CAT.) Sorry, can't resist. :D

Both T3 and BKK have some really nice check-in hall. And as for BKK, having city check-in is an excellent idea just like HKIA.

As for NAIA, city-check-in isn't necessary since it is located in the city centre. City check-in would be needed for DMIA once it become the main international airport. Most likely its gonna be in QC, Makati or FBGC

wala lang.. maligaya lang ako marami pala tayong mga bisita :D magpakita kayo LOL :lol:

di pa nga bukas eh

ibig sabihin pag binuksan ang T3 saka pa lang aayusin ang taxiway delta? hinde pwedeng daanan ang taxiway ng widebody. dati ang mga A300-B4 ng PAL pag hinahatak galing sa Airbus Domestic papuntang Balagbag dyan pa pinapadaan sa runway 13-31 kaya lahat ng take-off at landing noon on-hold pag may hinahatak na A300-B4. kahit hatak lang gamit runway kasi hinde pwede ang taxiway Delta. kung ibig mong sabihin pag binuksan saka pa lang yan aayusin e di dagdag delay na naman yan.

NAIA TERMINAL 3 NEW IMAGES uploaded jan 13, 08
from planetarra at http://planetarra.multiply.com/photos/album/8/Para_sa_mga_curious_NAIA_Terminal_3

excerpts from her multiply blog
"Here are some photos I took during a semi-visit to the controversial Naia Terminal 3 on Thursday, when the Congress oversight committee (a 20-member group) dropped by to see what's the holdup. Anyways, I only got as far as the departure check-in area. Airport execs did not want reporters tailing their tour for the lawmakers, among them Satur Ocampo, Ruffy Biazon, Teddy Boy Locsin, and Abby Binay.

Ang ganda nga sana. I especially like the V-shaped beams. Sleek, minimalist, and yeah, closed. haha! Sabi ng Miaa, it opens within this year. Sana lang talaga. Sayang eh."


D daw naandar aircon at escalators haha sobrang init daw.

Makati Skyline
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2250/p1090139ot7.jpg


Signs of wear and tear :ohno:

^^ kailangan lang yan ng batong pintura....

i bet you will be able to see the 'One Central' from there.

WOW, Bukas na ang NAIA T3?????????

Psych!! Practice lang yan.... LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

^^ Umm....I think your April Fool's prank is a day late. :baeh3:

^^^ I just openned my eyes tonight since monday evening...LMAO

Inquirer.net (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20080331-127550/Air-terminals-made-ready-for-travel-rush)

Air terminals made ready for travel rush

By Tarra Quismundo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:23:00 03/31/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- The old international airport terminal and the domestic airport are undergoing expansion in time for the summer travel rush as the hold-up in the opening of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport’s Terminal 3 continues.

As workers complete repairs on NAIA 3 [can anyone confirm that this is actually going on?], airport officials have initiated phased expansion projects in the crowded NAIA Terminal 1 and the inadequate Manila Domestic Airport to keep up with the steady rise in passenger volume.


I read this week in the Business Section of Phil. Star a announcement of public bidding for the total repair of NAIA 3. If I remember right, it's about 976 million pesos to be finished in 9 months.

Tight airport security held Palau president for 16 hours
http://bworld.com.ph/BW040408/content.php?id=074

STRINGENT UNITED STATES-IMPOSED aviation security standards forced Palau President Thomas Remengesau, Jr. to stay for another 16 hours.

Mr. Remengesau opted to skip his 9:45 p.m. Continental Airlines flight (CS 892) on Wednesday when the airline’s local representatives required frisking before boarding the Guam-bound plane.

"I would have expected that the airline would honor internationally recognized protocol regarding heads of state as well as show some sensitivity to our Pacific culture," Mr. Remengesau said in a statement.

"I am well aware of security concerns that airlines face and I support their efforts to keep flying safe, but there must be some room for the exercise of common sense in all decisions, and there must be respect for the dignity of the highest level of government," he added.

Mr. Remengesau also said he will raise the issue with the US Transportation Security Administration and other regional carriers flying into Palau.

The Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA), the operator of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA), was surprised at the situation.

Meanwhile, embarrassed airport staff later discovered their mistake.

MIAA General Manager Alfonso Cusi said he has launched an investigation into the incident, but he said the government has apologized for the fiasco.

"We still have to investigate what really went wrong," Mr. Cusi said. "We had asked that he be exempted [from the check], but security personnel did not grant the exemption."

Mr. Remengesau and his delegation finally left the country at around 2:15 p.m. yesterday on board a government-chartered private jet.

Continental Airlines said in its official statement they wanted to provide "added security measures."

"Continental employees explained the security requirement of the aviation laws of US in detail to the President of Palau. US aviation laws require that all customers comply with security procedures in order to board a flight. Unfortunately, Continental Airlines had no choice but to deny boarding of the president and his party to ensure the safety and on-time operation of the flight for other passengers on board."

In a related development, MIAA said the same flight was forced to return to NAIA and landed at 1:10 a.m. yesterday due to an alleged bomb threat.

After about three and a half hours of inspection, the Boeing 737-800 took off at 4:45 a.m.

Continental Airlines denied the security threat and said the plane returned due to a technical problem. — Marian Grace S. Ramos

Let's revive the thread with this photo...Makati Skyline from the control tower of NAIA.
Actually, you could see a continuum of Metro Manila skyline. FBGC and Ortigas looks like they are of the same cluster....And T3 looks very nice on this unobstructed angle.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2394654397_3c19094719.jpg?v=0

Nice shot, man! (And your other photos at chaos&creation).

^^ thank you man. for appreciating. :)

ibig sabihin pag binuksan ang T3 saka pa lang aayusin ang taxiway delta? hinde pwedeng daanan ang taxiway ng widebody. dati ang mga A300-B4 ng PAL pag hinahatak galing sa Airbus Domestic papuntang Balagbag dyan pa pinapadaan sa runway 13-31 kaya lahat ng take-off at landing noon on-hold pag may hinahatak na A300-B4. kahit hatak lang gamit runway kasi hinde pwede ang taxiway Delta. kung ibig mong sabihin pag binuksan saka pa lang yan aayusin e di dagdag delay na naman yan.

sabi nila aayusin daw muna bago bugsan ang buong t3.... ewan ko tsong di na ako umaasa dyan....

About NAIA 3, the government is building this imposing new monument on the terminal grounds. I'm not sure if it's called Circulo de Amistad del Mundo. Basta parang ganun. It's Spanish. I dunno why. Maybe the government wants to come up with an impression that we're global people and we can speak Spanish as well.

Hi. Sorry to be a bit off-topic here (but still pertaining to MNL-NAIA, though), but with Nayong Pilipino soon to move out of its present location (which is on what is rightfully MIAA property) and to its new one under construction in PAGCOR City (see separate thread here on SSC), perhaps the by-then vacated site could house an aircraft technical area expansion?

To accomodate this, clearing the site and levelling it with the rest of the Centennial North Wing tarmac - which it is immediately adjacent to - would be necessary. That would also necessitate demolition of the now-disused Philippine Village Hotel (which has been closed for almost a decade now and is reportedly in deteriorating structural condition).

Here is a composite photo I made up (pieced together from Google Earth captures I did of the area, both of the same altitude scale), with the present Lufthansa Technik Area near the Runway 24 end of Runway 06/24 superimposed:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2371/2397414218_7eda22ec3b_o.jpg

It should be noted that the hangar alone can safely house up to 4 747s under a common roof!