do well wishers/greeters go through metal detectors/friskers and the security guard with the "magic stick" test just like entering malls and hotels

this one's from keaguevarra http://www.flickr.com/photos/keaguevarra/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2691054778_ba82a597a8.jpg?v=0

Wow. I like this angle/shot of the new terminal. It looks like a world class type of airport like the ones you would see at more developed countries. Hopefully it will be fully functional with international flights by the end of the year. It should help people (especially foreign tourists and those just transferring flights in Manila) forget about terminal 1.

I noticed that as well, it looks really nice from that angle. All of these new pictures are nice too, thanks for sharing.

do well wishers/greeters go through metal detectors/friskers and the security guard with the "magic stick" test just like entering malls and hotels

Yes we just did. Interestingly, the well wishers area is inside the airport terminal building itself instead of the usual "outside the terminal building" or a separate area...Yet I have a hunch that well-wishers can enter the departure lobby and the arrival lobby temporarily.

do well wishers/greeters go through metal detectors/friskers and the security guard with the "magic stick" test just like entering malls and hotels

Don't you know that magic stick actually glows and goes off like an alarm when it does find explosives and other deadly weapons? :lol::lol: Never underestimate the magic stick!

dont forget long before 9/11 we were probably the only airport that had multiple body checks from airport entry to plane entry.....now its has become almost universal....soon most 1st world airports will also be importing the magic sticks masterfully carved from paete laguna.

Earlier at NAIA Terminal 3 (actually it was around 8-9PM already) :D

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/3/photos/226/600x600/1/NAIA001.jpg?et=EkXWjplBEir9W2q%2CvzSwyw&nmid=112275523

http://images.habagatcentral.multiply.com/image/4/photos/226/600x600/2/NAIA002.jpg?et=PsZFjuHrbMC2oEn83YzDpg&nmid=112275523


Madilim yata sa check in lobby?

^^nope. madilim yung pagkakuha dahil sa cam.

^^ Yup...Medyo underexposed ang pagkakauha.

sssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, wagmasyadong maingay. natutulog ang secu at baggage handlers ng PAL exress at air philippines sa corner na iyan.. LMAO sorry OT.

^^ Actually, we caught one guard sleeping on duty outside the terminal building...Sa may parking area.

^^ sana ginising nyo. :lol:

very nice pics!!

nice pics....im going to orlando via toronto tomorrow...ill make xur to take pics..

anyone have any pictures of the pilots view landing in manila from manila bay..are there arrows lit pointing to the runway... on emirates they have a front camera but each time i have landed the plane has come from the east which i am told is the nicer view to land

Thanks for sharing the photos.

Di pa rin ba uso dyan ang mga vending machines?

matagal ng uso....hinde lang siya marami.....unlike in japan...na kahit saang sulok meron....anyway buti na rin yun.....masyadong impersonal ang vendos at least sa sari-sari store meron ka pang mahahagap na tsismis... :lol:

^^ :lol:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/bellagirl35/SSKEWguard.jpg

^^ Actually, we caught one guard sleeping on duty outside the terminal building...Sa may parking area.

http://blogador.amxbr.com/wp-content/centraluploads07/2007/03/sleeping-guard-440px.jpg
HB, you should have taken a picture of him sleeping on the job.
para ma-sisante ang loko.
I do not mean to be insensitive or harsh.
Pero naman, if the sikyo is not serious in doing his job
then he shouldn't have this job. IMO


:horse:

JP

^^ Umm...di pa ganyan ang pose nya...:D Sayang nga...kasi nagmamadali kami nun...walang time kumuha ng shots.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/bellagirl35/SSKEWguard.jpg
JP

Oh my, what a big gun that security guard has.

^^^LMAO, Are you sure you're staring at the right gun???? LMAO

He has a riffle on his lap my man.. he he kase naman nakabukaka matulog itong kulog na yan kaya batuta yata ang nakita ni dancethingy...LMAOOOOOOOOOO Just Joking!!!

anything new sa naia....t3.....aside from the big and long gun?:lol:

this one's from keaguevarra http://www.flickr.com/photos/keaguevarra/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2691054778_ba82a597a8.jpg?v=0

sana may night shot neto.. looks really nice..

just arrived last night and seems naia T1 is organized in and out of the terminal but really, it's time this once glorious edifice needs to close down. the building is deteriorating. passed by infront of T3 and it's stunning outside. works on the skyway is in full progress. it will be magnificent if the two rotundas will be erected there very soon.

^^^LMAO, Are you sure you're staring at the right gun???? LMAO

He has a riffle on his lap my man.. he he kase naman nakabukaka matulog itong kulog na yan kaya batuta yata ang nakita ni dancethingy...LMAOOOOOOOOOO Just Joking!!!

I was trying to make out a pun.

I was trying to make out a pun.

wala na bawal bawi.....:lol:

sana may night shot neto.. looks really nice..

great shot....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/bellagirl35/SSKEWguard.jpg



http://blogador.amxbr.com/wp-content/centraluploads07/2007/03/sleeping-guard-440px.jpg
HB, you should have taken a picture of him sleeping on the job.
para ma-sisante ang loko.
I do not mean to be insensitive or harsh.
Pero naman, if the sikyo is not serious in doing his job
then he shouldn't have this job. IMO


:horse:

JP


Mahirap na madali ang trabahong sikyo.

Mahirap kasi napaka-boring lalo na kung walang mga aksyon dyan, kahit man lang mga nagla-lab-making dyan sa kotse, opisina, kwarto, o banyo.... Hehe nasubukan ko na kasing mag-security guard noon sa isang college institution dito, marami yatang aksyon dito hehehe... :banana:

is it open for international? i wanna see pics lot ive seen lot of pic i want to see some more ahaha

ALL CEB flights uses NAIA 3. CEB international flights no longer uses NAIA 1.

I've always wondered, are they ever repair the deteriorating concrete as seen in the lower left of this picture:
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/petpetyalic/DSC_1155.jpg

^^ Powerwash lang kailangan niyan, Diz!

^^ are they gonna do that though?

^^ Sure, pag may tubig.... :lol:

I remember when I took a flight in T2 at night, meron nag pa-power-wash dun sa lakaran ng mga tao, kaya isang lugar lang yung designated na babaan ng mga aalis.

^^eh kung timba at tabo lang hindi pwede?

^^ puwede rin, saka toothbrush ang gagamitin para malinis yung mga putik at lumot sa sidewalk. :lol:

Sige, ipahiram mo muna yuong supliyo mo, isauli lang agad pagkatapos gamitin..LMAO

Sana po si Bayani Fernando na din ang maging head ng MIAA, para mas gumanda ang takbo ng NAIA, basta forget lang muna nya ang color pink.:)

Sana po si Bayani Fernando na din ang maging head ng MIAA, para mas gumanda ang takbo ng NAIA, basta forget lang muna nya ang color pink.:)

i think agree with you as long as his fav color pink is out of the picture :)

i think agree with you as long as his fav color pink is out of the picture :)

Was up mucho? Were waiting for your T3 Pics. we are excited.. make it nice and take every angle of the T3.

I've always wondered, are they ever repair the deteriorating concrete as seen in the lower left of this picture:
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/petpetyalic/DSC_1155.jpg

i think this terminal needs some repair...
the moment i stepped in this terminal, i was caught in awe and amazement... it's really beautiful, no question, but it doesn't feel new...
(well, it really isn't new) but how many yaers more should we count before we feel the need to replace this terminal simply because it has become too old???

officicials really haven't learned their lessons..... if they cant afford to build a new terminal every now and then, why let our existing terminals get too old too soon??? poor cleaning maintenance takes away confidence of the travelers.

perhaps a little clean-up and furnishing will do the trick...

Sana po si Bayani Fernando na din ang maging head ng MIAA, para mas gumanda ang takbo ng NAIA, basta forget lang muna nya ang color pink.:)
^^
hehehe.:lol:

zhook2001, Did you forget that it was left idled for six years? Means, nothing is done while the legal matters are being settled, it's understandable that while there is a legal despute in court, the said building or terminal would be untouched. The financier wouldn't dare to spend more money to keep it, more so the government doesn't have a real fund for the terminal building because they are more focus on the funds to pay Frapport and the other builder.

Was up mucho? Were waiting for your T3 Pics. we are excited.. make it nice and take every angle of the T3.

dreamtofly, my date with T3 will be this coming sept 5. i hope i can take good shots and areas that were never posted in this forum, are there any other areas that were not shown here? how i wish cathay passengers were allowed to disembark at T3 when we arrived last 27 aug. just pipe-dreaming :lol:

Sana po si Bayani Fernando na din ang maging head ng MIAA, para mas gumanda ang takbo ng NAIA, basta forget lang muna nya ang color pink.:)

...pink coated terminal, will be cool,,,,first in the world!,,,,pati airport police cars din! at ground handling equipment..at mga airline crews and stewardesses (in pink dress and stockings) :)

[QUOTE=PasigGuy;24689668]...pink coated terminal, will be cool,,,,first in the world!,,,,pati airport police cars din! at ground handling equipment..at mga airline crews and stewardesses (in pink dress and stockings)


. . .and our country will be known as "Republic of the Pinklippines!":banana::banana::banana:

Wag naman !!! magmumukhang flammingos tayo..LOL

oo nga wag naman sana baka pati national dance maging flammingo dance

o May 22 – Contest launching
o June 30 – Deadline for submission of registration forms.
o July 15 – Acceptance of entries
o July 16 – 18 – Technical screening of entries
o July 21 – Preliminary evaluation/judging of entries for the selection of the ten (10) finalists for each category ( In the event that entries exceed a total 100)
o August 8 – Deadline for submission of scaled models of 20 finalists for both categories
o August 21 – Final evaluation/judging of finalists by the Board of Jurors
o August 24 – Announcement of winners at MMDA sa GMA over radio station DZBB 594 khz. (Sunday)
o August 29 – Awarding of winners to be held at MMDA

Yeah, I'm excited to see these.!
I hope they'll look outstanding

Sept 1 na bukas wala pa! na i announce po ba yung winner??

Where are the entries? :)

I hope people can post pictures of the winning designs. Anyone find any yet?

^^ pati sa MMDA website wala pa.

^^ pati sa MMDA website wala pa.

what's going on?

^^ updates on the rotunda designs.

I am looking for news, wala akong makita. Parang wala mang press release to.

baka wala nagsubmit ng designs...:dunno:

I've always wondered, are they ever repair the deteriorating concrete as seen in the lower left of this picture:
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/petpetyalic/DSC_1155.jpg

They'll repair this pag-nakita at nagalit na si GMA. Otherwise, they won't even notice it.

All General Managers of the good airports do a WALK-THROUGH every day to make sure everything is FLAWLESS.

Dito, tatamad-tamad mga airport people. Mabilis lang sa singil ng airport fees.

http://blogador.amxbr.com/wp-content/centraluploads07/2007/03/sleeping-guard-440px.jpg
"A PICTURE PAINTS A THOUSAND WORDS"

just arrived last night and seems naia T1 is organized in and out of the terminal but really, it's time this once glorious edifice needs to close down. the building is deteriorating. passed by infront of T3 and it's stunning outside. works on the skyway is in full progress. it will be magnificent if the two rotundas will be erected there very soon.

Naia T1 should not be closed down. The architectural quality and engineering of Naia T1 is still superior to that of Naia T3. In all its years of existence, Naia T1 withstand all the commotion and chaos that took place inside yet not I haven’t heard of any ceiling or section that collapsed. Unlike the Naia T3 ceiling that collapsed after 3 years of construction.
Naia T1 is still a good back-up for the questionable quality and standard of materials used in NaiaT3.

any new pics???:nuts:

mukhang clean-up lang ang kailangan dyan....nilulumot.....baka naiipunan ng tubig....anyway good that somebody noticed it...sana mapansin ito baka lumaki pa ang problema

They'll repair this pag-nakita at nagalit na si GMA. Otherwise, they won't even notice it.

All General Managers of the good airports do a WALK-THROUGH every day to make sure everything is FLAWLESS.

Dito, tatamad-tamad mga airport people. Mabilis lang sa singil ng airport fees.

http://blogador.amxbr.com/wp-content/centraluploads07/2007/03/sleeping-guard-440px.jpg
"A PICTURE PAINTS A THOUSAND WORDS"

I don't think this police is in NAIA airport... Chinese characters on the upper left looks like from Chinese airport.

oh yeah, good eyes ianizer, the sign on the desk does have chinese inscriptions... I dont think NAIA employees like security people wears that light blue uniforms. I remember those ones that pat you down would either in dark blue uniform or "barong tagalog"

Look at Hein, he passed judgements right away without checking carefully. But atleast his other comments above are more acceptable and has some truth in it.

^^ Wow, I can't believe no one saw that............ I shoulda mentioned it first! I saw it when it was first posted. :lol:

I don't think this police is in NAIA airport... Chinese characters on the upper left looks like from Chinese airport.

Haha, now the NAIA people have grounds to complain. We are quick to accuse them for a wrong that they have not done (or have not been caught doing). We are too blindsided by our impression of the beijing airport and olympics that we did not consider the possibility that the chinese can be just as lazy and neglectful if not more.

The NAIA people will say shame on us for being quick to judge them. :D

... as for the rotunda designs, maybe it's a surprise :D

naku pag puros halaman lang laman nung rotunda babatukan ko MMDA. :lol:

Hey guys finally the gate/bridge operators started today. so all cebu pacific plane will use the air bridge. But off course cebu pac wants an aft stair to facilitate fast boarding and deplaning. They were trained by dotc/ato personnel to man the bridges (i think). THANX for the quick action MIAA. The rotunda daw is a big mole with fountain.:O) (JOKE)

aw, yung mga winners di pa rin ina-announce >_<
kahit yung mga sumali di alam kung ano nangyari sa entry nila.
or may nanalo na?

sounds fishy....

My folks just came back from Cebu and their flights (to Cebu and back) departed ahead of schedule.

Impressed naman sila sa NAIA3 and what's nice is the have a no tipping policy according to the guy who pushed my dad's wheelchair. Bawal daw pero one of the guy accepted the tip anyway since no one was looking naman :D Sana this applies to Customs and other department.

^^ NO TIPPING POLICY!that is an excellent policy.

Now, howabout: INCLUSIVE OF ALL FEES! PAYMENT POLICY.

ALL FEES INCLUDED--para wala ng surprise fees causing unnecessary delays.

:horse:

JP

new pics of T3 from ferdzdecena http://www.flickr.com/photos/ironwulf/2806328548/in/photostream/


lagal[og] at http://www.flickr.com/photos/oggie/2799066833/in/set-72157606960770056/

gif images so i can't repost them here.

here's papertilapia images at http://www.flickr.com/photos/papertilapia/2793833707/in/photostream/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/2793833707_3fbe2535db.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2794683220_1de03443c1.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3183/2793837249_5736684ff0.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2793838943_e442d2ae5a.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/2793844199_ebe5620afa.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/2794693824_42c4b9b268.jpg?v=0

Hey guys finally the gate/bridge operators started today. so all cebu pacific plane will use the air bridge. But off course cebu pac wants an aft stair to facilitate fast boarding and deplaning. They were trained by dotc/ato personnel to man the bridges (i think). THANX for the quick action MIAA. The rotunda daw is a big mole with fountain.:O) (JOKE)

well that's good pero obviously not all cebu pacific planes will use the air bridge, they have some turbo props which, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm no expert on these (never even rode an airplane :lol:), has built-in stairs.

here are some images of T3 we don't often see. I guess the owner of these images is one of the concessionaires at the terminal.

http://jykx729.multiply.com/photos/album/82/NAIA_TERMINAL_3#

http://images.jykx729.multiply.com/image/4/photos/82/400x400/1/SNV30808.JPG?et=60ROoTc2Y8PnVL4Cmn2mcw&nmid=108257654

http://jykx729.multiply.com/photos/album/82/NAIA_TERMINAL_3#2

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sasa's images from multiply http://sasademandy.multiply.com/photos/album/135/NAIA_Terminal_3_Now_Functioning#

partial lang, ang dami eh :lol:

http://images.sasademandy.multiply.com/image/6/photos/135/600x600/53/IMG-3004.JPG?et=GAqDBtEfNbfrQtTXtP%2CfFw&nmid=108243331

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more from sasa

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nice view of makati skyline :)

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sasa again :)

Arrival Area

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Black and White images of T3 from MyPatrick at

http://mypatrick.multiply.com/photos/album/67/Still_More_T3

apologies guys, feel ko lang magpost ng T3 pics. :lol:

digigurl at http://dgbanzon.multiply.com/photos/album/92/NAIA_Terminal_3_pix#1

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Naku kung matutuloy yung rumors na ang ayala ang magtatakeover sa operations sa NAIA T3, matatanggal yang mga PLDT pay phone sigurado :lol:

Oo maganda nga. Thanks for the effort in gathering the photos absinthe. :okay:

Naku kung matutuloy yung rumors na ang ayala ang magtatakeover sa operations sa NAIA T3, matatanggal yang mga PLDT pay phone sigurado :lol:

bakit?

^^ siguro gawa ayala owns globe so papaltan nila lahat ng phonelines? dunno

ey correction nga. not all planes of ceb pac will use the air bridge. Only 319's/320's lang. hehe sorry. The ATR 72500 will still use the remote gates.

wow! there are so many spaces na aayusin pa talaga. sana nga ayala na ang in-charge sa interior at sana gawin parang greenbelt 5? just a thought. absinthe thanks for posting nice photos. mukhang wala na akong kukunan pagpunta ko this friday :lol:

Wow! there are so many spaces na aayusin pa talaga. sana nga ayala na ang in-charge sa interior at sana gawin parang greenbelt 5?


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Actually, that is a very good idea. Our government just hires political has-beens and their friends kaya CHOPSUEY madalas ng result. Just look at the monstrosity above. Its "FLINSTONES meets the JETSONS" design.

We have some of the BEST interior designers in the world. Its a shame because our neighbors continue to reap awards for their wonderful airports while we make tiyaga with mediocre ones.

SKYTRAX BEST AIRPORTS 2008 (8.2 million people surveyed)

1. Hong Kong International Airport
2. Singapore Changi Airport
3. Seoul Incheon Airport
4. Kuala Lumpur Int'l Airport
5. Munich Airport

Actually, that is a very good idea. Our government just hires political has-beens and their friends kaya CHOPSUEY madalas ng result. Just look at the monstrosity above. Its "FLINSTONES meets the JETSONS" design.

We have some of the BEST interior designers in the world. Its a shame because our neighbors continue to reap awards for their wonderful airports while we make tiyaga with mediocre ones.

SKYTRAX BEST AIRPORTS 2008 (8.2 million people surveyed)

1. Hong Kong International Airport
2. Singapore Changi Airport
3. Seoul Incheon Airport
4. Kuala Lumpur Int'l Airport
5. Munich Airport

i totally agree with you hein, "kumpadres" in the politics runs in the Phils., very sad to know. there are hundreds of world class interior designers in the Philippines our government can hire their services.

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statue of josef strauss inside munich international airport (the airport is named after him), ginaya ba ng NAIA T3 sa paglagay ng bust ni ninoy? just wondering....

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statue of josef strauss inside munich international airport (the airport is named after him), ginaya ba ng NAIA T3 sa paglagay ng bust ni ninoy? just wondering....

meron din bust....hindi full figure....anyway yung naia3 will take a long time bago gumanda sa loob by now siguro ginagawa pa ang mga restaurants etc.....so give them a break wag masyadong mainip....

^^True. It doesn't mean that everything is OK just because the terminal is open. We have to remember that the arbitration in foreign courts are not yet done. So foreign airlines are still cautious to transfer in T3. So far, what we could only do right now is to suggest what could be done when everything is OK for T3.

^^
Arbitration relates to compensation not operation. Other than that. Its all systems go.

And besides I'm still thinking on how Fraport can justify its claim beyond what they constructed as part of construction cost under consultancy bill for couple of million dollars when no tax receipts can be made out of its payment, yet its claiming it as part of compensation. Either way, they will be paid soon but not in the amount they claim foolishly.:lol:

Go T3 ...

How long do you think it would take before T3 can be comparable to the best airports?

I say 1 and 1/2 years is enough ... :)

....anyway yung naia3 will take a long time bago gumanda sa loob by now siguro ginagawa pa ang mga restaurants etc.....so give them a break wag masyadong mainip....

Dad, for being patient in waiting. libre kita sa steakhouse diyan sa NAIA T3 pagnagbukas na!:)

:horse:
JP

Thanks for the photos absinthe 888! Keep it up man!

Damn this is exactly what i felt when i saw those plants at the airport pictures a few posts back!

I still credit sanfo airport for putting a lot of art. we could agt least do that! Incheon and KL don't have it.

Actually, that is a very good idea. Our government just hires political has-beens and their friends kaya CHOPSUEY madalas ng result. Just look at the monstrosity above. Its "FLINSTONES meets the JETSONS" design.

We have some of the BEST interior designers in the world. Its a shame because our neighbors continue to reap awards for their wonderful airports while we make tiyaga with mediocre ones.

SKYTRAX BEST AIRPORTS 2008 (8.2 million people surveyed)

1. Hong Kong International Airport
2. Singapore Changi Airport
3. Seoul Incheon Airport
4. Kuala Lumpur Int'l Airport
5. Munich Airport

^^
Arbitration relates to compensation not operation. Other than that. Its all systems go.

And besides I'm still thinking on how Fraport can justify its claim beyond what they constructed as part of construction cost under consultancy bill for couple of million dollars when no tax receipts can be made out of its payment, yet its claiming it as part of compensation. Either way, they will be paid soon but not in the amount they claim foolishly.:lol:I heard before that international airlines don't want to transfer to T3 yet because of the arbitration? Is that right or there are other reasons?

^^ that's right. coz the philippine government does not have full control of T3 as of yet, diba they can't even issue contracts longer than 6 months? we can't absolutely say "its all systems go" in this kind of scenario, marami pang pwedeng mangyari, just look at the history of this effin terminal :lol:

so logically, foreign carriers wont use T3 since technically, no one owns it yet. :)

Thanks for the photos absinthe 888! Keep it up man!

I'm just a messenger, credit must go to the folks who took those pics :)

kung meh pupunta sa T3, pwede siguro mapic yung mga shower rooms at yung clinic para makita ng ating mga ssc pips...

^^
WRONG. I've said it before and I say it again. There is no dispute as to the Philippine government ownership of terminal 3. Its not the same as taking a bank loan for housing purposes and mortgaging your title on the land as security for payment of your loan. Its not even eminent domain in the strict sense although for purposes of folks in this forum you can call it that way.

Forget what Mike Defensor told you. Its what politicians do best.

Here is the real score.

First, you must distinguish between concessionaires and airline operators. They are not the same thing. A concessionaire is like Dunkin Donut and of course you know what an airline is.

Second, consider airline facilities.
Major foreign Airlines with most departure out of NAIA won't transfer because they have business lounges at terminal 1. Some have business office there too. Unless MIAA would reimburse them with the cost of its construction, they ain't movin until its full value is paid for. And assuming they are willing to do it, their managers from Hong-Kong and Singapore would not allow them considering their present economic state. They may be wealthy but additional expense is not just on the agenda.

Third, ah the obvious but not too obvious one. Border control.
Nobody thought of that until the fiasco at terminal 3. And that includes immigration, customs, quarantine, animal control, and aviation security among other support groups. Not the guards wearing white uniform you find at the ramp of the terminal building. You can always replace them but not the ones you find on the tarmac as well as those reading the X-ray monitor.

So whats the problem with that? Unfortunately, the government has enough staff to man terminal 1 and 2 ONLY. I mean those who are not just employed by the government to do it but received trainings as well. And those cost a lot of money too. It hovers in dollars. Again, nobody considered that. Had trainings and certifications are given to filipino trainors, then we would not have problems don't we? No wonder that foreign organization keep it away from us to prevent shall we say hao-shao proficiency! Not for the safety of their citizen but ours as well. Otherwise, the blame game will start again should untoward accident occur. No country in the world can simply do it overnight. Unless we are prepared to be downgraded further to category 3. If category 2 is already disgraceful what more if it is pegged lower. That would mean all flights from PI are barred for entry in mainland and US territories as well as other countries signatory to the Geneva Convention. If you don't know what it was, look at the back of your printed airline ticket. Reason, incompetent and unqualified personnel running international airports.

I pity the guy that runs ATO before. He was right all along but nobody cared to listen. I suppose that is the price you pay for being too honest doing your job. Much has been said already regarding the competency issue. If it involves expense without a benefit of sort out of these politicians pocket, nothing is done about it. Had it been available to local contractors, hey there you go, as quick as lightning. I will not dwell further on that matter. It just make me sick. But I should say the government does its job well on hiding what the real situation was. Credit that to well, a man called Mike or Alfons or Tirso even if one of them is my friend. To begin with, its not their fault anyway.

looking at some of the Pictures of NAIA, its interesting to note that they have directional signs for Domestic and International gates within the terminal. Was the terminal in its original plans designed to accomodate both domestic and international? I always thought that everyone said that this was purely a International terminal?

T3 images from our awesome planet's flickr

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Go Nuts Donuts
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Cinnabon
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from http://www.ironwulf.net/ text can also be seen here regarding his opinion of T3.

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^^
it was supposed to be an international terminal in the original plan before it was modified again and again by PIATCO, of course with deals operating under the table, and the end result would be what you see now. And that was part of the compensation claim too. The most prominent feature of the original plan was the tube connecting terminal 2 to terminal 3 with walkalators on it. Now it appeared there are bridge-less gates operating on terminal 3 as well.

Here is the real score.

First, you must distinguish between concessionaires and airline operators. They are not the same thing. A concessionaire is like Dunkin Donut and of course you know what an airline is.

Second, consider airline facilities.
Major foreign Airlines with most departure out of NAIA won't transfer because they have business lounges at terminal 1. Some have business office there too. Unless MIAA would reimburse them with the cost of its construction, they ain't movin until its full value is paid for. And assuming they are willing to do it, their managers from Hong-Kong and Singapore would not allow them considering their present economic state. They may be wealthy but additional expense is not just on the agenda.

Third, ah the obvious but not too obvious one. Border control.
Nobody thought of that until the fiasco at terminal 3. And that includes immigration, customs, quarantine, animal control, and aviation security among other support groups. Not the guards wearing white uniform you find at the ramp of the terminal building. You can always replace them but not the ones you find on the tarmac as well as those reading the X-ray monitor.

So whats the problem with that? Unfortunately, the government has enough staff to man terminal 1 and 2 ONLY. I mean those who are not just employed by the government to do it but received trainings as well. And those cost a lot of money too. It hovers in dollars. Again, nobody considered that. Had trainings and certifications are given to filipino trainors, then we would not have problems don't we? No wonder that foreign organization keep it away from us to prevent shall we say hao-shao proficiency! Not for the safety of their citizen but ours as well. Otherwise, the blame game will start again should untoward accident occur. No country in the world can simply do it overnight. Unless we are prepared to be downgraded further to category 3. If category 2 is already disgraceful what more if it is pegged lower. That would mean all flights from PI are barred for entry in mainland and US territories as well as other countries signatory to the Geneva Convention. If you don't know what it was, look at the back of your printed airline ticket. Reason, incompetent and unqualified personnel running international airportsWow. Thanks for that. I've learned a lot.

I wanna ask something again. Aside from the tube, I'm still wondering what are those things that weren't followed by PIATCo in the original plan? I hope you could enlighten us about it. I haven't seen someone talking about it here yet or perhaps I missed on something. Thanks.

arianespace, thanks for sharing. now i am more interested to know, am sure everyone here in this forum, what else things that are not followed or taken out by piatco from the original plan. if that tube linking T2 & T3 has ever built, wow, that would be something.

guys just an update. the one and only passenger mover (walkalator) at the departure area near gates 117/118 - malfunctioned - the rubber handle derails out of the glass base. NGEKS. and the hole (loose panel)on gate 120 has been covered already.:O)

I agree with arian. after one month thats the only time we had our gate operators. Please iam begging tirso serano to remove the plants with with wood base from domestic airport. :O(

Go T3 ...

How long do you think it would take before T3 can be comparable to the BEST airports?

I say 1 and 1/2 years is enough ... :)

Comparable to HK or Changi or KL airports? I think in about 20 years or more when we open our next NAIA4. They all just opened their new terminals and they're world-beating AWESOME.

The NAIA3 was built on a shoestring budget of $290M (based on Takenaka's records, the builder) to maximize profits for the contractors. Notice how PLAIN the new NAIA3 is?

This is actually the bone of contention in the PIATCO-Fraport tussle with the govenment. They want the the Philippines to pay $650M for the airport.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1312/542098020_96c860616a_o.jpg
The BEST airport in the WORLD, what you get when there is no corruption.

^^
WRONG. I've said it before and I say it again. There is no dispute as to the Philippine government ownership of terminal 3. Its not the same as taking a bank loan for housing purposes and mortgaging your title on the land as security for payment of your loan. Its not even eminent domain in the strict sense although for purposes of folks in this forum you can call it that way.

Forget what Mike Defensor told you. Its what politicians do best.

Here is the real score.

First, you must distinguish between concessionaires and airline operators. They are not the same thing. A concessionaire is like Dunkin Donut and of course you know what an airline is.

Second, consider airline facilities.
Major foreign Airlines with most departure out of NAIA won't transfer because they have business lounges at terminal 1. Some have business office there too. Unless MIAA would reimburse them with the cost of its construction, they ain't movin until its full value is paid for. And assuming they are willing to do it, their managers from Hong-Kong and Singapore would not allow them considering their present economic state. They may be wealthy but additional expense is not just on the agenda.

Third, ah the obvious but not too obvious one. Border control.
Nobody thought of that until the fiasco at terminal 3. And that includes immigration, customs, quarantine, animal control, and aviation security among other support groups. Not the guards wearing white uniform you find at the ramp of the terminal building. You can always replace them but not the ones you find on the tarmac as well as those reading the X-ray monitor.

So whats the problem with that? Unfortunately, the government has enough staff to man terminal 1 and 2 ONLY. I mean those who are not just employed by the government to do it but received trainings as well. And those cost a lot of money too. It hovers in dollars. Again, nobody considered that. Had trainings and certifications are given to filipino trainors, then we would not have problems don't we? No wonder that foreign organization keep it away from us to prevent shall we say hao-shao proficiency! Not for the safety of their citizen but ours as well. Otherwise, the blame game will start again should untoward accident occur. No country in the world can simply do it overnight. Unless we are prepared to be downgraded further to category 3. If category 2 is already disgraceful what more if it is pegged lower. That would mean all flights from PI are barred for entry in mainland and US territories as well as other countries signatory to the Geneva Convention. If you don't know what it was, look at the back of your printed airline ticket. Reason, incompetent and unqualified personnel running international airports.

I pity the guy that runs ATO before. He was right all along but nobody cared to listen. I suppose that is the price you pay for being too honest doing your job. Much has been said already regarding the competency issue. If it involves expense without a benefit of sort out of these politicians pocket, nothing is done about it. Had it been available to local contractors, hey there you go, as quick as lightning. I will not dwell further on that matter. It just make me sick. But I should say the government does its job well on hiding what the real situation was. Credit that to well, a man called Mike or Alfons or Tirso even if one of them is my friend. To begin with, its not their fault anyway.

cool thanks for the very good explanation. :)

teka, what's the status of the category 2? hindi pa kaya nirereview ng FAA?

looks like the judges didnt like any of the entries for the rotunda competition
OR
they are all so good they cant decide

^^ Or....no one entered the competition at all. :lol:

Just a quick question... Are they using the jet bridges of the NAIA3 already?

Comparable to HK or Changi or KL airports? I think in about 20 years or more when we open our next NAIA4. They all just opened their new terminals and they're world-beating AWESOME.

The NAIA3 was built on a shoestring budget of $290M (based on Takenaka's records, the builder) to maximize profits for the contractors. Notice how PLAIN the new NAIA3 is?

This is actually the bone of contention in the PIATCO-Fraport tussle with the govenment. They want the the Philippines to pay $650M for the airport.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1312/542098020_96c860616a_o.jpg
The BEST airport in the WORLD, what you get when there is no corruption.

what was the cost to build this airport.

i beg to disagree....i have been to quiet a number of airports yung naia3 nde napagiiwanan ang design....comparing it with the present hk airport mas maganda ang interior ng naia3 ...masyadong plain ang chep lap kok....nde nyo pa lang ma appreciate ang ganda ng naia 3 dahil nde pa fully operational, the restaurants, mall and other joints wala pa....i don't think mahuhuli sya sa kl, bangkok or singa....although i have not seen singa's new t3...btw i've seen to chep lap kok twice pati yung sa business class nila...i have been to naia3 once....so i'm able to compare....yung advantage lang ng chep lap kok ay malaki sya at may mtr direct fror downtown to the airport door.

I've seen the rotunda designs sa philstar though maliit na newsclip lang. interesting designs...

I've posted sa previous thread (I think it was thread 12) what was deviated from the original design of T3 by PIATCO which was reviewed by Ove Arup. Partial list lang pero madami na agad sila pinaltan.

I've seen the rotunda designs sa philstar though maliit na newsclip lang. interesting designs...

I've posted sa previous thread (I think it was thread 12) what was deviated from the original design of T3 by PIATCO which was reviewed by Ove Arup. Partial list lang pero madami na agad sila pinaltan.

malamang hindi yun ang masusunod dahil meron ng mga entries sa rotunda design isa sa mga judges is gemma araneta.....3rd week of august dapat daw may napili na sila....baka nahihirapan sila dahil sa ganda ng mga designs...

what was the cost to build this airport.

if this is changi T3, it costs US$1.73Bn to build if i am not mistaken.

Just a quick question... Are they using the jet bridges of the NAIA3 already?

please read page 38 posted by numiX.....

if this is changi T3, it costs US$1.73Bn to build if i am not mistaken.

I think the picture that was shown above was HK's Chep Lak kock Airport.

yup air bridges are being used already. but we still have to use the back stairs for fast deplaning, and boarding.

I think the picture that was shown above was HK's Chep Lak kock Airport.

that was i thought :)

[QUOTE=absinthe_888;24837056]I've seen the rotunda designs sa philstar though maliit na newsclip lang. interesting designs...

do we have a link?

[QUOTE=absinthe_888;24837056]I've seen the rotunda designs sa philstar though maliit na newsclip lang. interesting designs...

do we have a link?

naku sir, hardcopy na philstar yung nakita ko, august pa nun, hindi ko na matandaan yung date. dun sa image, makikita si gemma araneta at si paolo alcazaren (tama ba spelling) na tinitignan yung mga rotunda designs.

Hi guys I just want to share my experience in T3

Just this past week, my parents and I flew back to the Philippines and went to visit Bicol and we used Cebu Pacific and the T3.

-I have to say the design is decent if not pretty good.
-Interiors lack "character" maybe more plants etc.
-Not enough chairs while waiting for the flight, and while eating.
-The "last name" waiting thing outside the terminal and the Taxi loading zones are very convenient.
-Not alot of police presence, I was expecting more... idk though
-Disorganized and quite confusing at times (During arrival people would skip the baggage "checkpoint" by simply walking away while the officers are checking other people's baggage numbers etc. )

But considering that the airport is still young, these issues can stil be fixed so cheers ! :)

hey guys just an update. we will start flying from clark:

MACAU:
Route Flight No. 1 FREQUENCY ETD/ ETA Aircraft Effective Date
ETD: CRK-MFM 5J368 MO/WE/FR/SU 1225H 1420H
ETA: MFM-CRK 5J369 MO/WE/FR/SU 1500H 1655H A319
STARTS: 09 November 2008

BANGKOK:
Route Flight No. 2 FREQUENCY ETD ETA Aircraft Effective Date
ETD:CRK-BKK 5J941 TU/TH/SA 1345H 1550H
ETA:BKK-CRK 5J942 TU/TH/SA 1620H 2025H A319
STARTS: 08 November 2008

HONG KONG
Route Flight No. 3 FREQUENCY ETD ETA Aircraft Effective Date
ETD1:CRK-HKG 5J150 MO/WE/SA/SU 0715H 0905H
ETD2:TU/TH/FR 0705H 0855H A319

ETA:HKG-CRK 5J149 TU/TH/FR 0945H 1135H A319
STARTS:08 November 2008

SINGAPORE :
Route Flight No.4 FREQUENCY ETD ETA Aircraft Effective Date
ETD 1:CRK-SIN 5J535 MO/WE/FR/SU 2020H 2330H
ETD 2:SIN-CRK 5J533 TU/TH/SA 2100H 0010H+1 A319

ETA 1:SIN-CRK 5J536 MO/TU/TH/SA 0025H+1 0335H+1
ETA 2:SIN-CRK 5J534 WE/FR/SU 0100H+1 0410H+1 A319
STARTS:09 November 2008

It still looks much better than most airports in the US.

NAIA Terminal 3 going ‘extra smiles’ to achieve excellence



Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 01:01:00 09/03/2008


NAIA Terminal 3 going ‘extra smiles’ to achieve excellence :banana:

We respectfully refer to Tarra Quismundo’s article titled, “Glitches still bug NAIA 3.” (Philippine Daily Inquirer, 8/22/08)

We welcome the assessment regarding the “glitches” (as she called them) in the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3 (NAIA 3). Manila International Airport Authority General Manager Alfonso G. Cusi has taken steps to address this concern by calling all agencies operating in NAIA 3 to regular meetings that aim to improve service and address specific concerns of the airport agencies and the private airlines operating in the new facility.

As with all new facilities, NAIA 3 has its share of “birth pangs” in its effort to provide flawless service. Nevertheless, we at NAIA 3 are trying our best to improve our service. We will continue to work on the so-called “glitches” and to honor our commitment to serve our passengers and other airport stakeholders 24/7. For this reason, we have launched a more aggressive service excellence campaign dubbed “NAIA, We go the extra smile” at the NAIA complex. This has gained the active support of all airport agencies, international airlines and service providers.

We assure the Philippine Daily Inquirer and its readers that we will deliver the services we promised at the NAIA 3 for the benefit of our passengers and the traveling public.

TIRSO G. SERRANO, assistant general manager for Airport Development and Corporate Affairs, Manila International Airport Authority

NAIA 3 doesnt look that cool....just compare it to some airport around south east asia..Naia 3 is not that very attractive....

i beg to disagree....i have been to quiet a number of airports yung naia3 nde napagiiwanan ang design....comparing it with the present hk airport mas maganda ang interior ng naia3 ...masyadong plain ang chep lap kok.......yung advantage lang ng chep lap kok ay malaki sya at may mtr direct fror downtown to the airport door.

http://www.rickandkendra.com/Vacation%20December%202005/images/DSC00613_JPG.jpg
I think the NAIA3 is plain compared to this. Btw, this is the OLD terminal pa lang.

Additional Advantages:

1. Clear, Lighted and well-designed and mga signages (kaya hindi disorganized and confusing as Xeon experienced)
2. Hindi masikip at maraming tambayan na comfortable and spacious (check out the pics boarding areas of NAIA3, there is going to be congestion problems when people start having BIG hand-carrys for the international flights.
3. Free Internet computers, not just wi-fi.
4. Huge and extensive mall-like shopping area.
5. Everything is beautifully designed. No CHOPSUEY feel like in Philippine airports.
6. Flow design of passengers is impeccable. Kaya last year the HK airport handled 35,000,000 passengers with EASE.
7. Hi-speed rail, bus, cars and taxi bays are intergrated into the airport. FANTASTIC! Dito tayo talo talaga.

There is good reason why Chep Lap Kok HK Airport is the BEST in the world according to an 8.2 million people survey.

http://www.rickandkendra.com/Vacation%20December%202005/images/DSC00613_JPG.jpg
The NAIA3 is PLAIN compared to this. Btw, this is the OLD terminal 1 pa lang.

Plus:

1. Clear, LIGHTED and well-designed and mga signs (kaya hindi disorganized and confusing as Xeon experienced).
2. Hindi masikip at maraming tambayan na comfortable and spacious (check out the pics NARROW boarding areas of NAIA3, there are going to be congestion problems when people start having BIG hand-carrys for the international flights.
3. Free Internet computers, not just wi-fi.
4. Huge and extensive mall-like shopping area.
5. Everything is beautifully designed. No CHOPSUEY feel like in Philippine airports.
6. Flow design of passengers is impeccable. Kaya last year the HK airport handled 35,000,000 passengers with EASE.
7. Hi-speed rail, bus, cars and taxi bays are intergrated into the airport. Plus a MONORAIL linking T1 to T2, FANTASTIC! (Bakit hindi natin magawa ito?)

There is GOOD reason why Chep Lap Kok HK Airport is the BEST in the world according to an 8.2 million people survey.

Maybe run for PRESIDENT in 2010! If you win Renovate again the NAIA3 for the design that you like!!!! hehehehe:banana::banana:

im sick and tired of these people always comparing some other airports to ours.

if you have the money to build a mega-kickass-superdooped-mackdaddy of all airports then by all means go ahead.. if not, shut the f** up and LEARN TO APPRECIATE. yan ang hirap sa ating mga pinoy, puro nalang reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo................... etc.........................

any airport is fine with me, as long as it guarantees my safety and my well being to meet and greet or say goodbye to my family and friends whenever i leave or arrive in my own country. i could care less if Incheon has a better TV monitor and Chep Lap Kok has cool ceilings or whatever..

pagdating ko dyan sa pinas wala akong pakialam kungdi ung makita lang ulit ung friends and family ko. THATS IT!.

im sick and tired of these people always comparing some other airports to ours.

if you have the money to build a mega-kickass-superdooped-mackdaddy of all airports then by all means go ahead.. if not, shut the f** up and LEARN TO APPRECIATE. yan ang hirap sa ating mga pinoy, puro nalang reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo................... etc.........................

any airport is fine with me, as long as it guarantees my safety and my well being to meet and greet or say goodbye to my family and friends whenever i leave or arrive in my own country. i could care less if Incheon has a better TV monitor and Chep Lap Kok has cool ceilings or whatever..

pagdating ko dyan sa pinas wala akong pakialam kungdi ung makita lang ulit ung friends and family ko. THATS IT!.

AMEN MY FRIEND!!! BASTA MALINIS AT MAGANDA ANG SERVICE WITH A SMILE!!! AYOS NA AYOS NA IYON!!!:cheers:

^^ Very well said! :applause:

Bravo Greenarcher. You hit the nail on the head. :bash: :applause:

You forgot to realize that it's not the filipinos they're trying to impress, but the people who really care about airports, and those are the investors. They look at the airport itself to see whether or not it is wise to invest in a country because airports are one thing that a government spends tons of money on no matter where you go to lure in those investors.

Which brings us back to the saying of an Old British Wise man which states that "one must spend money on infrastructure whether or not it has it."

But that did not happen with NAIA. A lot of its key factors were stripped away because of greedy people, aka Piatco.

In a way, I agree with hein, even though I hate his attitude.

^^ Yes, that is very true. But is Terminal 3 all that bad? Judging from the pictures I've seen, I think not. Yes, it is not as grand or modern looking as Chep Lak Kok but it is not something to be ashamed of either. It is a big step up from what we had without being overly pretentious. In my opinion, it would be ridiculous to spend billions just to have a kickass terminal rivalling that of HK or Changi when we have other infrastructure projects that need more attention. I believe it would even be more disappointing for a potential investor to arrive at an uber-fantastic airport only to be greeted by substandard infrasructure as soon as he steps outside. It's like driving up a long driveway expecting a palatial mansion at the top, when all you get is a bungalow.

My point is this - the design of Terminal 3 presents an accurate picture of the State of the Philippine economy - That of a developing country on the verge of takeoff. It is modern without being pretentious. It says " Hey! Look at us, we're catching up!" and not "Hey! We're poor but we'd sure like to look like we are rich!" I know many people may not agree, but I think it is perfect for now.

I agree that there is a lot do be desired when it comes to interior decorating. (Those plant boxes are just awful.) But that is something that can easily be remedied. A lot can be done with the proper furniture and decoration.

On a side note. It is never bad to dream and to dream big. But to unrealistically try to have something just because your neighbor has it...well...that's just trying to keep up with the Jones'. Never a good thing.

^^ Yeah, I never said I hated how NAIA3 looked, in fact, I also believe it's a mile step forward from the other two terminals in the complex.

I was responding to what greenarcher said.

Hey Diz! Oh no no no! Wasn't really meaning to debate with you or anyone. Just posting my own opinion on the matter. And I guess it is my reaction to the "train of thought" of some posts. :) Cheers!

oh ok. :cheers:

(changina ng SSC errors naman oh! my post should be after ramvingar's down there.)

Hey Diz! Oh no no no! Wasn't really meaning to debate with you or anyone. Just posting my own opinion on the matter. And I guess it is my reaction to the "train of thought" of some posts. :) Cheers!

Based on pictures I have seen, terminal 2 is not that bad also. I like the high ceilings

I think we must be happy eventhough as you classified our new airport as not that high standards compare to others in the world, atleast we have new and modern airport. to solve all this anxiety about our new airport, I proposed some ideas to upgrade the architecture and interior design of the new airport.

A.) Departure Lobby:
1.) I don't know yet the whole space of the lobby and how all the things was in
place, but base on this posted images, I think I suggest to relocate their
seating in the middle of the lobby in parallel ways rather than leaning on walls. It
is not nice to put seating along the walls since it creates a messy look. As
you can see, this wall seems to be the traffic area and if there"s somethingthere
most especially if it's alloted for seating for sure it will look cramp and their hand-
carry luggages will obstruct the traffic. The wall must leave it like it is and I will
explain it on wall treatment.
B.) Retail/Beverages Outlet:
1.) As far as I can see on this new outlets, I dont know whether seem these are
just temporary since I can see, their area was not fully renovate yet, you can
see no ceiling and the partition was not installed yet until the ceiling. For this
part, design wise, the airport management must have a committee or dept.
controlling the design of every shop. For whatever kind of retail outlets or food
beverages coming in to this occupancy must pass through a certain standard
of outlet design approved by the assigned committee. LIke in rustan, you know
some of their standards or like those high standards retail shops. With regards
to the facades of every shops, in between architrave of each shop, the airport
management must design with something like with Filipiniana panels with modern
approach, maybe with capiz panels on s/s frames or something like architraves
with hidden light fittings and must be uniformly adopt in every shops except the
main facade of it depends on the shops design.
C.) Wall and Column Treatments:
1.) This time of modern era, airport design become high tech in look, usually high
tech, moderm or minimalist type of design depicts simplicity and uncluttered
space. But ever since this is the trend, it seems in the long it create boring at-
mosphere to a space. To solve this problems, like this new airport, as far as I
can see in the picture, a lot of bare walls to be utiize and upgrade. Some of the
traffic walls like where they put the seating area, must filled with some hanging
lighted box pictures or mural painting that depicts the total concept of the air-
port which s the Philippine Architecture. Other thing I can see one high wall with
the skylight, maybe they can put a timber lattice frame big lcd screen that fea-
tures tourism in the Philippines. For columns they have to think of a way that it
wont look bare maybe they clad it with hanging timber and with upward and
downward light shining around columns. Along the walkalator hallways and depar-
ture waiting lounge, they have to create some niche panels with hidden lights
showing some tourism pictures, even with water features like dropping in glass
curtains or stone finish with some natural or artificial landscaping along the
walls.
C.) Ceiling Treatment:
1.) I feel the ceiling in the departure lobby is okey except on the departure waiting
lounge where they put suspended ceiling. But we cannot do anything about it
unless they change it. And I agree waiting lounge was a bit cramp.
D.) Landscaping:
1.) Yes I admit, I did not like how now they arrange they're plants and so forth. If
they can put tall palm trees in the middle of the departure lobby that was
amazing surrounded with white stones around 600mm diameter each trees
maybe 4 to 6 nos., depend how it will allocate inline w/ the middle of pitch roof
skylight with upward lighting to get a cool effect along the lobby. For
planter boxes, I agree they must talke out those "flinstone" as what other
says design of planter box instead fot those mid standing planters, they
just do a round 500mm diameter planter box with timber finish with horizon-
tal grain and in between with 6" wide stainless steel plate inlays as horizon-
tal grooveline and skirting. And maybe create some free standing display
showcase boxes in different height with display of antique pots or
statues. The planter box I can see along that narrow corridor must remove
it looks like in the corridor of a school. Instead wall must put some nice
abstract painting with halogen light fittings that give nice ambiance to the
corridor.
E.) Exterior Architecture:
1.) All I can say this is a nice airport that depicts the Philippine architecture
except maybe outside the arrival area. Round columns and the skyway,
they paint it in such a way doesnt look unfinish and sidewalks, maybe
replace with some nice homogeneous tiles instead of plain cement plastered.

For the mean that's all I can suggest to this airport.

airport designs have become very generic as we strive for the most streamlined way to get from check in to boarding the plane via food, toilet and shopping stops.

as the movie Terminal with Tom Hanks showed: Spielberg took a huge empty warehouse the size of a few football fields and just "decorated" it to look like an airport terminal.

and thats what an airport is. it has reached the stage where once the blindfolds inside an airport are removed, it really is very difficult to identify which country you are in , let alone which city you are.

T-3 ain't that bad I tell ya! And since its a new airport, it still has room for improvement. Like more shops, more modern infrastructure say flat screen monitors and the works. The only thing NAIA can't change is the runway layout.

airports my personal experiences jul-august 08 trips

I arrived at the old terminal Jul 28 with my 3 month old bub. Took the Bangkok-Manila leg via Cebu pacific. I've requested that my bub's pram be taken to the outside of the plane/bridge during arrival but the request wasnt granted. (meaning.... i had to carry my baby and my hand baggage through immigration (lining up) and customs and try to take my luggage from the carrousel coz the pram went out last............very inconvenient.)

I went back to Bangkok via Cebu Pacific again.... Jul 30 and embarked from the old terminal still. I was asked to pay 1650.... i guess that was travel tax and another 2++ for another tax or whatever they call it.

Came back to the Philippines from bangkok with my hubby Aug. 7. This time in the new terminal. The customs tried to slug us to pay for an LCD monitor we purchased from bangkok. The customs officer told us........Magbayad na lang kayo mam kc puti naman asawa nyo. What the heck is that kind of reasoning???!!!! If their reason given to us is about the law then we wont argue about it. At the end of it, We didnt pay. I told them we are bringing the monitor back home with us when we leave for melbourne.

Flying to Legazpi. Getting in the terminal is a pain. Long lines from outside. People trying to help you for some "kayo na po ang bahala ma'm." When we got on the scanners, those officers asked what are on our luggages. I told them we'll just open the luggages if they've got problems. As i am trying to open the 1st luggage, the man said, "ok na po ma'm." What the heck???? " Kayo na po ang bahala ma'm." (Again???) Grrrr!!!! I just ignored them. Then we checked in. Went to the waiting area. The flight was delayed for half an hour.

Comming back with hubby and bub. I got the pram from the plane nd strolled to the arrival area. Gee it was a trek! From the Tarmack, we needed to get up the escalator and then get down. Gee. i asked if there was any elevators available for me to get through oz i've got a bub in the pram with me. I had to let through almost all of the people before we could get on the escalator........ and going down, a young guy extended help. Thank goodness!!! Its a real pain travelling with a baby or shall i say a real pain going through that terminal. Oh just a reminder, Dont let anybody touch your baggages if you dont have spare money!!!. They are there to help but for a donation of course! and they let you know that!

Final trip out of the country. Same airline to Bangkok. Same things -"kayo na ang bahala ma'm" sa may scanners. I just totally ignored them. I only paid 200 pesos (kc excempted daw ako-being a balik-bayan). aside from the terminal fee. Bakit a few weeks ago, sa old terminal 1650 binayaran ko?

Hay!!!!! travelling sa pinas!!!!!!!! Nakakabanas!!!

Buti nga kayo ngayon lang, ako last 1991 with the old airport, I lost 200 dollars just for lagay-lagay, christmas daw, huh, sabi pa by that time pakiipit naman ng maayos sa passport baka tayo mahalata, bagito kc unang balik, ayun bigay na lang..... what a sad experience...

^^ nakakadepress naman yan, naku kung may paraan lang pagbabarilin ko yung mga 'yan

I'm thinking na gawin din sana sa NAIA T3 yung ginawa sa isang blank wall sa Aaneta Coliseum. On one wall, they put some sort of a mural parang painting na sculpture on the wall similar dun sa mga nilagay ng MMDA na parang mural on the wall para hinde blangko yung wall at hinde puro tarpaulin ang pinaglalagay.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/markpaul/IMG_0021.jpg
NAIA T1

Philippines = Nagpapanggap na mahirap pero mayaman.
Dubai = Nagpapanggap na Mayaman pero mahirap, joke.

hey guys just an update. we will start flying from clark:

BANGKOK:
Route Flight No. 2 FREQUENCY ETD ETA Aircraft Effective Date
ETD:CRK-BKK 5J941 TU/TH/SA 1345H 1550H
ETA:BKK-CRK 5J942 TU/TH/SA 1620H 2025H A319
STARTS: 08 November 2008


PAL?

Ceb pac.

Bakit a few weeks ago, sa old terminal 1650 binayaran ko?


I assume you are still carrying a Philippine passport since you have to pay for Travel Tax. When you left from T1 going to Bangkok, being a Philippine citizen, you are subject to the P1,6++ travel tax since you're ticket says you are returning to Pinas. Going back home to your country of Residence, you are exempted from the Travel Tax, that is why you only paid P200 for the travel tax exemption from Philippine Tourism Authority. At least that is how it was explained to me having to pass several times now by Manila and back for my trip to Singapore from the US. If my ticket says US-MNL-SIN-US, then I would be exempt from the travel tax but my ticket always is US-MNL-SIN-MNL-US so I have to pay the travel tax for the MNL-SIN portion and have to pay the P750 airport security tax everytime I depart from Manila. I hope the money is put into good use. Cheers. :cheers:

im sick and tired of these people always comparing some other airports to ours.

if you have the money to build a mega-kickass-superdooped-mackdaddy of all airports then by all means go ahead.. if not, shut the f** up and LEARN TO APPRECIATE. yan ang hirap sa ating mga pinoy, puro nalang reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo................... etc.........................

any airport is fine with me, as long as it guarantees my safety and my well being to meet and greet or say goodbye to my family and friends whenever i leave or arrive in my own country. i could care less if Incheon has a better TV monitor and Chep Lap Kok has cool ceilings or whatever..

pagdating ko dyan sa pinas wala akong pakialam kungdi ung makita lang ulit ung friends and family ko. THATS IT!.

:applause::applause::applause:

NAIA 3 doesnt look that cool....just compare it to some airport around south east asia..Naia 3 is not that very attractive....

http://www.rickandkendra.com/Vacation%20December%202005/images/DSC00613_JPG.jpg
I think the NAIA3 is plain compared to this. Btw, this is the OLD terminal pa lang.

Additional Advantages:

1. Clear, Lighted and well-designed and mga signages (kaya hindi disorganized and confusing as Xeon experienced)
2. Hindi masikip at maraming tambayan na comfortable and spacious (check out the pics boarding areas of NAIA3, there is going to be congestion problems when people start having BIG hand-carrys for the international flights.
3. Free Internet computers, not just wi-fi.
4. Huge and extensive mall-like shopping area.
5. Everything is beautifully designed. No CHOPSUEY feel like in Philippine airports.
6. Flow design of passengers is impeccable. Kaya last year the HK airport handled 35,000,000 passengers with EASE.
7. Hi-speed rail, bus, cars and taxi bays are intergrated into the airport. FANTASTIC! Dito tayo talo talaga.

There is good reason why Chep Lap Kok HK Airport is the BEST in the world according to an 8.2 million people survey.

Build your own airports. Goodness.

im sick and tired of these people always comparing some other airports to ours.

if you have the money to build a mega-kickass-superdooped-mackdaddy of all airports then by all means go ahead.. if not, shut the f** up and LEARN TO APPRECIATE. yan ang hirap sa ating mga pinoy, puro nalang reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo................... etc.........................

any airport is fine with me, as long as it guarantees my safety and my well being to meet and greet or say goodbye to my family and friends whenever i leave or arrive in my own country. i could care less if Incheon has a better TV monitor and Chep Lap Kok has cool ceilings or whatever..

pagdating ko dyan sa pinas wala akong pakialam kungdi ung makita lang ulit ung friends and family ko. THATS IT!.

And, this is one of the best posts ever.

I agree with this. Who cares with superficial beauty? Airports are not the only measure of a country's progress, economic development and beauty. Thank God, at least, we have airports to use. Better than nothing.

YAH... weve wished for the opening of the terminal, now that its open we look at the flaws. I agree that this is not comparable to hk, and sin etc., at least it has to be presentable and efficient that's it.

You forgot to realize that it's not the filipinos they're trying to impress, but the people who really care about airports, and those are the investors. They look at the airport itself to see whether or not it is wise to invest in a country because airports are one thing that a government spends tons of money on no matter where you go to lure in those investors.

Which brings us back to the saying of an Old British Wise man which states that "one must spend money on infrastructure whether or not it has it."

But that did not happen with NAIA. A lot of its key factors were stripped away because of greedy people, aka Piatco.

In a way, I agree with hein, even though I hate his attitude.

Investors aren't really interested in how beautiful and big the airport is, it's the safe haven for them financially. An effective functionality of an airport is good enough, as long as it is clean and hazzle free. It's the system in the Philippines is what would attract foreign investors. You can impress them with a huge and modern terminal building but once they stepped out of it? What's next? I don't think Paris France has a beautiful airport comparing to Changi or Chep lap kock airport in HK, but investors and tourist are attracted to that country because that country has a good tract of record, safety and a good haven for investors. I guess, needless to say we filipinos are just good in impressing guests with something superficial upfront but once these guests left, it's back to our usual ways.. Remember how many filipinos would be in debt to show off when there is fiestas or party celabration??? That's the same thing with this airport terminal buildings? Why are we going to build a gigantic airport when there is no real need for it yet? Isn't that purely nonsensical?

I'm not pointing fingers on diz or anybody, I'm just saying why is it always about impressing foreigners are the main concern for us. Shouldn't be ourselves first that we need to look at first, how to make ourselves feel good about our achievements, to make us feel better and be more confident about ourselves? If we have these confidence and we do have something to offer the world, I'm sure these foreigners we adore so much would not think twice to put an investment in our country.

I agree with what ravingar said and besides, we all knew that T3 just openned and we all knew it was opened without being able to finish it right away even the interchanged from SLEX aren't even completely finished yet . We all waited for 6 years and now that it is openned , why can't we practice patience one more time? We got our wish already, they managed to open it. We can just send our concerns in their suggestion box so hopefully, they can hear what is needed to be done with T3, hopefully they would now have some fund to do something about some of it ...

im sick and tired of these people always comparing some other airports to ours.

if you have the money to build a mega-kickass-superdooped-mackdaddy of all airports then by all means go ahead.. if not, shut the f** up and LEARN TO APPRECIATE. yan ang hirap sa ating mga pinoy, puro nalang reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo, reklamo................... etc.........................

any airport is fine with me, as long as it guarantees my safety and my well being to meet and greet or say goodbye to my family and friends whenever i leave or arrive in my own country. i could care less if Incheon has a better TV monitor and Chep Lap Kok has cool ceilings or whatever..

pagdating ko dyan sa pinas wala akong pakialam kungdi ung makita lang ulit ung friends and family ko. THATS IT!.

I'm very touched by this statement. I myself guilty of complaining. I commend this statement from Greenarcher. :applause:

Yes, MNL may not be that "impressive" but as long as it serves its purpose comfortably and safely, then that is really the true meaning of an airport. I would understand about complaints in the old domestic terminal but please do give T3 a chance to serve the Filipinos and the Philippines.

Yes mediocrity and corruption is taking toll in our land, but could there be no space for excellent execution and ideas? It seems that we have this mindset that everything is so damn pathetic in this country. There is still hope. We cannot just wave a magic wand and make those "first world transport infrastructures and what have you's" overnight, that is the reality. We still have a long way to go to improve our infrastructures. Like Jordin Sparks' song: "One Step at a Time, there's no need to rush..." T-3 is already a step ahead towards progress. All we need is more will power amongst ourselves.

Hay, yan ang hirap sa ating mga Pinoy talaga. Dapat nga magsaya tayo't meron nang bagong airport kesa sa wala.

I think the NAIA3 is plain compared to this. Btw, this is the OLD terminal pa lang.

Additional Advantages:

1. Clear, Lighted and well-designed and mga signages (kaya hindi disorganized and confusing as Xeon experienced)
2. Hindi masikip at maraming tambayan na comfortable and spacious (check out the pics boarding areas of NAIA3, there is going to be congestion problems when people start having BIG hand-carrys for the international flights.
3. Free Internet computers, not just wi-fi.
4. Huge and extensive mall-like shopping area.
5. Everything is beautifully designed. No CHOPSUEY feel like in Philippine airports.
6. Flow design of passengers is impeccable. Kaya last year the HK airport handled 35,000,000 passengers with EASE.
7. Hi-speed rail, bus, cars and taxi bays are intergrated into the airport. FANTASTIC! Dito tayo talo talaga.

There is good reason why Chep Lap Kok HK Airport is the BEST in the world according to an 8.2 million people survey.



There is a good reason why we don't have that chap lap kok like airport, actually, several good reasons...
1. Philippines doesn't have the same economy the HK/China government enjoys.

2. For lights and signages you've been bitching about since you started posting these? T3 isn't 100% finished yet, it was idled for 6 years, it's mared with lawsuit and such. it's only been 2 months since they openned for Christ sakes??? Be rational and realistic!!!!

3. Why are you worried about free computers?? In businesss class lounges, they provide it, people can afford laptop computer nowadays, USE IT!! If you don't want to carry any laptop? FLY BUSINESS CLASS so you can tell the difference....

4. NAIA hasn't reached 25 million passengers a year. No wonder HK can put in an impeccable record for they have over 35 million passengers yearly. WHY? HK is richer than the Philippines. THEY HAVE MONEY WE DON'T, we usually borrow money, WE NEVER LEND MONEY to other countries... Atleast T3 is decent looking enough, to me it looks at par with US airport, NOT BAD FOR A POOR COUNTRY LIKE OURS... Why whine???? Is there any need for it???


5. Highspeed rail?? yeah, that's a wonderful dream MAY PERA BA TAYO?? Kung IKAW MAY PERA BAKIT HINDI IKAW ANG MAG FINANCE SA AIRPORT SA PINAS? Meanwhile, most of us are just happy enough there is some progress in the country with all these new airports that was built all over the Philippines and more are coming up??? There is nothing wrong to aim high, but we have to be realistic and have some sort of dignity amongst ourselves and be proud enough inspite of the situation in our country. WHAT CAN WE GET FOR BEING ENVIOUS?? huWag maging ingetero/ingetera at GAYA GAYA sa kapwa, masama yan !!!!! Hindi komo mayroon ang iba, kailangan mayroon din tayo kahit hindi kaya. MAGSTRIVE PARA MARATING NATIN ITO!!! HINDI PURO REKLAMO LANG NG MAGREKLAMO, PUNA LANG NANG PUNA, HINDI NAGIISIP MABUTI AT MAGING RATIONAL. no wonder there is nothing is being achieved by many in the Philippines, they just complain, they just tell other people what to do, BUT? were they offering something for HELP? NONE!!!

but then again, some are complaining the system on the airports. You know there are times corruption takes place at airports and when foreigners took note of this, it's hard to win them back. Well I think that's the one we should be worried about.

Photo Courtesy of jetphotos.net

Look at the whole stretch of NAIA T3. It's indeed very long.

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NAIA is the worst Asian Asian Airport!:ohno::banana:

LONDON/HEATHROW AND LONDON/GATWICK IS FAR BETTER THAN NAIA! :lol::lol::lol:

NAIA is the worst Asian Asian Airport!:ohno::banana:

LONDON/HEATHROW AND LONDON/GATWICK IS FAR BETTER THAN NAIA! :lol::lol::lol:

Sorry but you obviously haven't flown much around Asia or the world for that matter :ohno:

And again sorry, I personally try to avoid LHR as much as possible. One of the worst (expensive, chaotic, one could go on and on) airports a passenger could choose for transit.

^^
I agree. I thought nobody else would explain to the wannabees who wished to travel the world how the hell it look like to be in the airports they mentioned. I pity these poor souls who just want to impressed this forum of their fantasized escapade.

To mwg12a, very well said.

To Greenarcher, you have my affirmation on the things you've said.

My challenge in the previous thread still stands. If you can top my exit at NAIA at 15 minutes from the gate all the way to the taxi stand or rail link from the international airport you proclaimed to be better, then I will agree with what you said. If you want baggage-less flight (meaning no checked-in items) 5 minutes. If not then its better for you to shut up and discuss some other things others don't know otherwise you will always be discredited on this forum as pretentious. Maybe you will be better off discussing other things other than how beautiful airports look like when you haven't been there yourself.

New budget terminal on hold for lack of funding

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THE planned construction of a P200-million “budget terminal” has been placed on hold by the Manila International Airport Authority for lack of funds.

And the plan may be scrapped altogether as the airport authority would instead focus on refurbishing Terminal 3 of the international airport, which also caters to budget airlines, airport insiders said.

Airport general manager Alfonso Cusi said the “budget terminal” was to be built in the third quarter of the year to ease traffic at the Manila Domestic Airport in Pasay City.

Construction was supposed to start this month and to be completed in March 2009.

“[The airport] has no available funds for the construction of the budget terminal,” Cusi said. “We spent much of our funds for the refurbishing and restoration of Terminal 1, while some of the money went to Terminal 3, which was only 90 percent complete when the government took over,” Cusi said.

The airport agency is overseeing the repairs on Terminal 3 at a cost of P800 million, or four times the projected cost of the new domestic terminal.

It only recently opened, servicing Cebu Pacific and PAL Express, the budget carrier of Philippine Airlines.

The planned budget terminal had been expected to host the budget airlines using smaller planes for domestic flights. It was planned to accommodate 1,000 passengers at any time, and was to rise up at the former campus of an aeronautical school near the domestic terminal.

Domestic passenger traffic has increased 12 percent in the last three years, and last year three million passengers passed through the old domestic airport.

The budget terminal would have no passenger tubes, since the airlines would ferry their passengers from terminal to plane and vice versa on coaches, a mode that was faster and more cost efficient, an official said. Vito Barcelo (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news3_sept4_2008)

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The other way of stating these things other than this pronouncement is that currently the domestic terminal is now underutilized as it was Cebu Pacific who made it very uncomfortable. With them moving to terminal 3, so are the droves of passengers that travel with them. The plan however was made in anticipation of the expansion of Asian Spirit and Seair who would cover the capacity of the domestic budget terminal.

Now of course you know how they present the news.

Anyway, after this terminal becomes operational, the last terminal to be constructed is Terminal 2 extension going to Nayong Pilipino with 6 more gates and two remote. Two gates will be designed for the 380. Proposed date of construction will be around 2012 and completed by 2014. At least that's the plan for the MIA complex. An elevated walkway with walkalator shall connect T1 to T2 and T2 will be connected underground with T3 while domestic will be connected with T2. Two LRT stations are propose be installed at domestic and T1. Lets see what will came out later.

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Ano ba yan, ang daming Donya Victorinas at Donya Consolacion sa forums ngayon. :nuts: :lol: Makatikim lang ng sarap sa labas, eh kung ano-ano nang kritisismo at pagkukumpara at panlalait ang pinag-gagagawa sa kapwa.

NAIA is the worst Asian Asian Airport!:ohno::banana:

LONDON/HEATHROW AND LONDON/GATWICK IS FAR BETTER THAN NAIA! :lol::lol::lol:

Haha, I apologize for attacking and I will be willing to recognize a warning, but you are a retarded f**k. How the hell dare you barge in here and say that.

As far as I know, there are thousands of airports in Asia and some of them are just landing strips. So what you said is guaranteed 100% bulls**t.

Go away please.

Haha, I apologize for attacking and I will be willing to recognize a warning, but you are a retarded fuck. How the hell dare you barge in here and say that.

As far as I know, there are thousands of airports in Asia and some of them are just landing strips. So what you said is guaranteed 100% bullshit.

Go away please.

I second the motion. Go away please. At least Diz said PLEASE.

I think the NAIA3 is plain compared to this. Btw, this is the OLD terminal pa lang.

Additional Advantages:

1. Clear, Lighted and well-designed and mga signages (kaya hindi disorganized and confusing as Xeon experienced)
2. Hindi masikip at maraming tambayan na comfortable and spacious (check out the pics boarding areas of NAIA3, there is going to be congestion problems when people start having BIG hand-carrys for the international flights.
3. Free Internet computers, not just wi-fi.
4. Huge and extensive mall-like shopping area.
5. Everything is beautifully designed. No CHOPSUEY feel like in Philippine airports.
6. Flow design of passengers is impeccable. Kaya last year the HK airport handled 35,000,000 passengers with EASE.
7. Hi-speed rail, bus, cars and taxi bays are intergrated into the airport. FANTASTIC! Dito tayo talo talaga.

There is good reason why Chep Lap Kok HK Airport is the BEST in the world according to an 8.2 million people survey.

Let's be realistic. Money doesn't grow on trees and the government certainly doesn't have enough money for lavish spending. NAIA is not run by a private institution with a lot of money. If you don't have anything positive to say about our country or have constructive criticism, please just go away before you are banned for trolling. We don't need to wade through another load of your negativity (http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/home.do) like you did in the Infrastructure and Mobility/Airports thread.

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I agree. I thought nobody else would explain to the wannabees who wished to travel the world how the hell it look like to be in the airports they mentioned. I pity these poor souls who just want to impressed this forum of their fantasized escapade.

To mwg12a, very well said.

To Greenarcher, you have my affirmation on the things you've said.

My challenge in the previous thread still stands. If you can top my exit at NAIA at 15 minutes from the gate all the way to the taxi stand or rail link from the international airport you proclaimed to be better, then I will agree with what you said. If you want baggage-less flight (meaning no checked-in items) 5 minutes. If not then its better for you to shut up and discuss some other things others don't know otherwise you will always be discredited on this forum as pretentious. Maybe you will be better off discussing other things other than how beautiful airports look like when you haven't been there yourself.

I've never timed my exits from airports, but I remember exiting from Oakland International in California within minutes (with my carryon luggage). Also, I just flew to Edmonton, Canada last week, and if only I didn't have to go through immigration, I would have been out of there within minutes too--at least, I was the first one out of the building. I'm not saying that these airports are better, but just that maybe 5 minutes is not too impossible to achieve (although it would certainly be nice and welcomed)?

And yes, there are worse airports out there.

NAIA is the worst Asian Asian Airport!:ohno::banana:

LONDON/HEATHROW AND LONDON/GATWICK IS FAR BETTER THAN NAIA! :lol::lol::lol:

Hmm....where's this place called "Asian Asian?" On another planet? Because apparently only aliens (like YOU!) travel to and from it. :nuts:

Has the new saigon airport opened? I've used the old saigon international airport last year, comparing it to Naia, Naia is much much better. If the new saigon airport is opened, then it should be compared with T3 instead. Hanoi international airport, which is the capital of Vietnam, is nowhere near T1, more so with T2. When I went to Jakarta and Bali in 2004 and 2005, their airport looks as old as Naia, and sometimes I felt that Naia was even more efficient, as far as coming in and out of the airport is concerned. How old Jakarta was? Their duty free shops were still selling cassette tapes for their music, and that's in 2005. So there you have it. Make sure when you say Naia is no good compared to other asian airports, make sure you can say so on a 1st party point of view.

And being a 3rd world doesn't mean we have to have an airport just like Hongkong or Singapore. If that is the case, why does LAX sucks? And that's basically one of the gateways to the U.S. When I passed through LAX this summer, their renovation was still weird, with corridors going towards the gates of PAL still narrow. Estimating the size of the waiting area they were renovating, there is no way that all passengers will be able to sit while waiting for boarding. And that's for a fully loaded 747. And the area we were in were together with another Singapore Airlines flight, which made the area so full.

Like I said before, T3 is an old "new" airport, it being designed in the 20th century (before year 2000), and was basically left idle around 2001 or something when the brouhaha exploded. Now that its opened, its a different scenario. Its now a question on how our officials will react to the present times.

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NAIA T1

Oh wow there's TV screens that's not bad haha, just shows how long I haven't been back to Manila.

Actually the main departure lobby is the best thing with NAIA 1, spacious and I love the design. Everything from then on is downhill.

Bloody shame I have to go through it again when I visit next January. I thought maybe... just maybe, T3 opened...

@swahi: :yes: Yup, Ho Chi Minh's Tan Son Nhat International Airport (SGN) is now open. It preceded NAIA T3 by just months.

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My challenge in the previous thread still stands. If you can top my exit at NAIA at 15 minutes from the gate all the way to the taxi stand or rail link from the international airport you proclaimed to be better, then I will agree with what you said. If you want baggage-less flight (meaning no checked-in items) 5 minutes. If not then its better for you to shut up and discuss some other things others don't know otherwise you will always be discredited on this forum as pretentious. Maybe you will be better off discussing other things other than how beautiful airports look like when you haven't been there yourself.

Hahaha you set the standards pretty high considering hardly any tourists visit the Philippines compared to the rest of the world including countries in Asia. :)

New budget terminal on hold for lack of funding

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THE planned construction of a P200-million “budget terminal” has been placed on hold by the Manila International Airport Authority for lack of funds.

And the plan may be scrapped altogether as the airport authority would instead focus on refurbishing Terminal 3 of the international airport, which also caters to budget airlines, airport insiders said.

Airport general manager Alfonso Cusi said the “budget terminal” was to be built in the third quarter of the year to ease traffic at the Manila Domestic Airport in Pasay City.

Construction was supposed to start this month and to be completed in March 2009.

“[The airport] has no available funds for the construction of the budget terminal,” Cusi said. “We spent much of our funds for the refurbishing and restoration of Terminal 1, while some of the money went to Terminal 3, which was only 90 percent complete when the government took over,” Cusi said.

The airport agency is overseeing the repairs on Terminal 3 at a cost of P800 million, or four times the projected cost of the new domestic terminal.

It only recently opened, servicing Cebu Pacific and PAL Express, the budget carrier of Philippine Airlines.

The planned budget terminal had been expected to host the budget airlines using smaller planes for domestic flights. It was planned to accommodate 1,000 passengers at any time, and was to rise up at the former campus of an aeronautical school near the domestic terminal.

Domestic passenger traffic has increased 12 percent in the last three years, and last year three million passengers passed through the old domestic airport.

The budget terminal would have no passenger tubes, since the airlines would ferry their passengers from terminal to plane and vice versa on coaches, a mode that was faster and more cost efficient, an official said. Vito Barcelo (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news3_sept4_2008)


I'm happy with this development. I really wanted the old Domestic airport terminal to be demolished and gone forever. It's a shame to maintain that terminal albeit upgrade pa to be LCC terminal....improve T1, 2, 3 na lang.

NAIA is the worst Asian Asian Airport!:ohno::banana:

LONDON/HEATHROW AND LONDON/GATWICK IS FAR BETTER THAN NAIA! :lol::lol::lol:

Go away! This is not the right place to belittle NAIA!

Photo Courtesy of jetphotos.net

Look at the whole stretch of NAIA T3. It's indeed very long.

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awesome pano!!! i read somewhere that T3 is kilometer long. but i heard from an affiliate that Beijing's new airport covers the whole length of the runway! :cheers:

^^ :lol: that's most-likely true. Just looking at pictures of the airport makes me dizzy.

I'm happy with this development. I really wanted the old Domestic airport terminal to be demolished and gone forever. It's a shame to maintain that terminal albeit upgrade pa to be LCC terminal....improve T1, 2, 3 na lang.

I am with you on this one, not that I feel sorry for Manila domestic airport's condition, but, somehow if this structure is demolished could help extending and widennning that runway between T2 and T3 so NAIA would really have 2 very functional runway. They can just turn T1 into an LCC atleast. It probably would save a bit of money because T1 would only need facelift .

NAIA is the worst Asian Asian Airport!:ohno::banana:

LONDON/HEATHROW AND LONDON/GATWICK IS FAR BETTER THAN NAIA! :lol::lol::lol:


Good Lord, you're from pompeii??? And you have the nerve to even look down on Manila airport? If I haven't been in your tiny island. I'd say you have the right to say these... heck, I don't want to be disrespectful to the people of pompeii, but the Philippines is a bit more modern than that tiny island where there is no direct flight in and out of that island nation, so, imagine how backward the airport there itself. I couldn't even find baby diapers around pompeii, no bottled water available either, and if there is, they are very seldom and damn expenpensive. It's like you went back in time, 30 years back. You guys have nice untouched beaches though...

Pompeii has been uninhabited since the Vesuvius eruption I think?.. I doubt he's from there.
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I've never timed my exits from airports, but I remember exiting from Oakland International in California within minutes (with my carryon luggage). Also, I just flew to Edmonton, Canada last week, and if only I didn't have to go through immigration, I would have been out of there within minutes too--at least, I was the first one out of the building. I'm not saying that these airports are better, but just that maybe 5 minutes is not too impossible to achieve (although it would certainly be nice and welcomed)?

And yes, there are worse airports out there.


5 minutes is definitely impossible even in a small regional airport like we have in small town missouri, you do still have to go through security. The airport here only have one million passengers yearly and that's only for domestic travel. International passengers has to go through it longer. Imagine how big Chicago or Atlanta's airport, there is no way in hell you can get in and out of those airports for just under 20 mins. UNLESS the whole airport is emptied just for you.... lol Like you said, you probably didn't time your travels, maybe not much in a hurry even so you never noticed, it seems rather quick if you are not in time constraints.

Pompeii has been uninhabited since the Vesuvius eruption I think?.. I doubt he's from there.
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Oh no, I'm talking about the pompeii in south pacific part of the mariannas chain of islands close to Fiji and such. Is there Pompeii? If there is, I guess i misunderstood. There is a big community here in our city from Pompeii, they look very much like filipinos as well. I've been there so I know, its inhabited ... You can get there via saipan or guam through continental air micronesia

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I guess there is Pompeii Italy where the ruins are, I just looked it up through googles , no , thats not the same place I have been...

I guess I mistook it from Pohnpei.. My Bad

I'm happy with this development. I really wanted the old Domestic airport terminal to be demolished and gone forever. It's a shame to maintain that terminal albeit upgrade pa to be LCC terminal....improve T1, 2, 3 na lang.

at ipadala na lang ang ibang lumang equipments sa mga airports ng ibang cities.:D

@diz and mwg12a: Pompeii is an ancient ruined city (thanks to the eruption of nearby Mt. Vesuvius) in Italy. Meanwhile, Pohnpei is one of the four states that makes up the Federated States of Micronesia, an archipelagic nation in the Pacific, also once a former US territory before being granted independence.

^^^ Yeah, I corrected it already, I mistook it to Pohnpei. We have alot of immigrants from Pohnpei here in Springfield, of all the places in the US , that's how I came to know that country and visited there a few years back..he he

^^ Must be a huge culture shock for them; before they were completely surrounded by water in the middle of nowhere, now they're landlocked and completely surrounded by "pooties" in the middle of nowhere. :lol:

They feel secured, no tsunamis to wash them out ashore, just a bit of tornadoes here and there... he he he

5 minutes is definitely impossible even in a small regional airport like we have in small town missouri, you do still have to go through security. The airport here only have one million passengers yearly and that's only for domestic travel. International passengers has to go through it longer. Imagine how big Chicago or Atlanta's airport, there is no way in hell you can get in and out of those airports for just under 20 mins. UNLESS the whole airport is emptied just for you.... lol Like you said, you probably didn't time your travels, maybe not much in a hurry even so you never noticed, it seems rather quick if you are not in time constraints.

I can get out of LAX on a domestic flight with a carry on in 10 minutes, probably less, from the gates of Northwest Airlines inside the terminal down to street level.:)

The opening of T3 was a big relief because one thing it took away from me was the feeling of insecurity everytime I step into a nice airport overseas. My job takes me to the US and some countries in Asia and I tell overseas pinoys (who incessantly complain about their homeland) to come home and check out the new terminal. My boss a Singaporean always lambasts the Philippines, so one time he came over I asked the driver to pass over T3 and he looked surprised and just clammed up. I can never forget how I felt that time.

I just saw Incheon's new terminal yesterday where PR now is based, and I asked myself if I want T3 to be as big as this and the answer is no. It took me 30 minutes to go to the gate! Just look at KL, top 5 airport but pretty much empty. I am sure T3 will improve in the future but I hope they make it more unique, like I said from my previous posts showcase of Philippine talent in the arts and our hospitality.

I can get out of LAX on a domestic flight with a carry on in 10 minutes, probably less, from the gates of Northwest Airlines inside the terminal down to street level.:)

Got lucky at LAX last trip in June from MNL. I was first in line in the Immigration line then my single luggage was the second out of the chute to the conveyor. From aircraft gate to curbside was less than 30 minutes considering it was on a Sunday and peak time for arriving flights at Tom Bradley. Hassle nga lang I have to wait another 30 minutes for my sundo since I was out early. :mad:

I can get out of LAX on a domestic flight with a carry on in 10 minutes, probably less, from the gates of Northwest Airlines inside the terminal down to street level.:)

I never have, especially in Atlanta hartsfield where you have to get that long walk through concourses , train down to arrival section. Now in our local airport, yes, its possible to get out of the building down to the curve to get a cab or meet the person who would pick you up in 15 mins or less, but then our terminal building only have 10 gates.

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5 minutes is definitely impossible even in a small regional airport like we have in small town missouri, you do still have to go through security. The airport here only have one million passengers yearly and that's only for domestic travel. International passengers has to go through it longer. Imagine how big Chicago or Atlanta's airport, there is no way in hell you can get in and out of those airports for just under 20 mins. UNLESS the whole airport is emptied just for you.... lol Like you said, you probably didn't time your travels, maybe not much in a hurry even so you never noticed, it seems rather quick if you are not in time constraints.

Go through security when you're exiting the airport?? I don't recall ever having to do that.

No, I don't time my travels, at least not so precisely that I can specify the exact number of minutes it takes me to do something--perhaps because there are other more important things to be concerned about, such as getting to my hotel? But I will be travelling again this November (fingers crossed!) and I will keep this discussion in mind.

Yes, of course, the size of airports makes a difference, but as arianespace's challenge did not specify that the airports mentioned need to be comparable to NAIA in size, I can freely bring up any international airport that I want then. :)

The opening of T3 was a big relief because one thing it took away from me was the feeling of insecurity everytime I step into a nice airport overseas. My job takes me to the US and some countries in Asia and I tell overseas pinoys (who incessantly complain about their homeland) to come home and check out the new terminal. My boss a Singaporean always lambasts the Philippines, so one time he came over I asked the driver to pass over T3 and he looked surprised and just clammed up. I can never forget how I felt that time.



I will certainly not come back to the Philippines just to see an airport, judging from the photos posted here, I've seen better ones here in the US and in Asia but NAIA Terminal 3 is definitely a pleasant sight for all travellers visiting the country compared to the older rundown terminal.

Yes, of course, the size of airports makes a difference, but as arianespace's challenge did not specify that the airports mentioned need to be comparable to NAIA in size, I can freely bring up any international airport that I want then. :)

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Sure. As long as it has an immigration facility otherwise it wouldn't be an international airport ain't it? It must also be a flight coming from a long haul route otherwise there would be no point in comparison. Long haul was already explained by Kimber. The airport must also have a contact bridge and must be served by an intercontinental flight even if there is only one operating otherwise it wouldn't be a global airport. I will allow even one stop-over for purposes of this discussion. While it needs to handle at least 21 million, I would gladly entertain traffic half that capacity or 11 million passengers to include Than Son Nhat in Vietnam. Timer starts the moment you left the plane up to the nearest taxi stand or connecting rail link or if you like from the nearest place where somebody would pick you up.:)

I never have, especially in Atlanta hartsfield where you have to get that long walk through concourses , train down to arrival section. Now in our local airport, yes, its possible to get out of the building down to the curve to get a cab or meet the person who would pick you up in 15 mins or less, but then our terminal building only have 10 gates.


Im not sure if you have seen the Terminal for Northwest in LAX but it is definitely set up in way that it is easy to get in and out of the terminal in a short time but passengers departing will definitely take longer because of security measures.

McCarran International Airport in Vegas is huge, it'll take a long time just to get to the gates. Our airport aside from the usual bar and restaurants, has an Aviation museum, slot machines, art and sculpture exhibits which can definitely add to the excitement of being inside an airport while killing time waiting for a flight.

Im not sure if you have seen the Terminal for Northwest in LAX but it is definitely set up in way that it is easy to get in and out of the terminal in a short time but passengers departing will definitely take longer because of security measures.

McCarran International Airport in Vegas is huge, it'll take a long time just to get to the gates. Our airport aside from the usual bar and restaurants, has an Aviation museum, slot machines, art and sculpture exhibits which can definitely add to the excitement of being inside an airport while killing time waiting for a flight.

Only on transit flights in LAX so, I've never really experience going in and out of it. Chicago and Atlanta airports, even detroit is much like McCarran International. I've been in Minneapolis-St. Paul, that one is a bit tough to get around with.. Oh BTW, I forgot, Kansas City airport and Tulsa are both designed to have an easier access, I forgot about that, you can definitely get out of their airport if you have no checked in luggage in a matter of minutes.

Go through security when you're exiting the airport?? I don't recall ever having to do that.

No, I don't time my travels, at least not so precisely that I can specify the exact number of minutes it takes me to do something--perhaps because there are other more important things to be concerned about, such as getting to my hotel? But I will be travelling again this November (fingers crossed!) and I will keep this discussion in mind.

Yes, of course, the size of airports makes a difference, but as arianespace's challenge did not specify that the airports mentioned need to be comparable to NAIA in size, I can freely bring up any international airport that I want then. :)

Yeah, I kind of have departing passengers in mind as well. But, I know for a fact that in our little airport, you can't get down to the greeting area/taxi stand in just 5 mins or less and our little airport has only 10 gates.

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Sure. As long as it has an immigration facility otherwise it wouldn't be an international airport ain't it? It must also be a flight coming from a long haul route otherwise there would be no point in comparison. Long haul was already explained by Kimber. The airport must also have a contact bridge and must be served by an intercontinental flight even if there is only one operating otherwise it wouldn't be a global airport. I will allow even one stop-over for purposes of this discussion. While it needs to handle at least 21 million, I would gladly entertain traffic half that capacity or 11 million passengers to include Than Son Nhat in Vietnam. Timer starts the moment you left the plane up to the nearest taxi stand or connecting rail link or if you like from the nearest place where somebody would pick you up.:)

Who's Kimber? I'm a newbie here and I'm not yet that familiar with everybody.

Not fair to be coming up with all sorts of rules at this point :(
Oakland International: destinations include Hawaii and Mexico; 14.6 million passengers; contact bridge--do you mean a jet bridge?--then yes.

<<< This is KIMBER

<<< This is KIMBER

Nice to meet you! :hi:

Yeah, I kind of have departing passengers in mind as well. But, I know for a fact that in our little airport, you can't get down to the greeting area/taxi stand in just 5 mins or less and our little airport has only 10 gates.

I'm not the only one claiming to be able to do it in such a short time. See arianespace's post (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=24913646&postcount=853) that started it all. (And I don't know why you are including departing passengers in this particular discussion? We are only talking about exiting from the airport.)

^^ And the same to you. :colgate:

Only on transit flights in LAX so, I've never really experience going in and out of it. Chicago and Atlanta airports, even detroit is much like McCarran International. I've been in Minneapolis-St. Paul, that one is a bit tough to get around with.. Oh BTW, I forgot, Kansas City airport and Tulsa are both designed to have an easier access, I forgot about that, you can definitely get out of their airport if you have no checked in luggage in a matter of minutes.


I dont like the transit flights out of LAX, having to ride a shuttle to the Tom Bradley or walking to the terminal is such a hassle but I'm looking forward to their expansion and improvements at the international terminal, last time I was there the iconic restaurant in the airport was undergoing improvements and with 500 million price tag, I hope its nice.

Aside from McCarran, I have been to Boston's Logan International, nice, Chicago's Ohare, San Francisco and JFK all of which are humongous airports much like LAX. I have not been to Atlanta, someday I would like to visit the city.

^^ Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport (ATL) is nice, the terminal part. But the concourses, that's another story. Transitting via ATL is a harrowing experience especially if you have a short layover and have to change plaines (and sometimes airlines). Atlantans have this comical saying about their airport, "When you die and go to heaven, you have to transit via ATL first." :lol:

Aside from McCarran, I have been to Boston's Logan International, nice, Chicago's Ohare, San Francisco and JFK all of which are humongous airports much like LAX. I have not been to Atlanta, someday I would like to visit the city.

I've view the Boston and San Francisco Airports as considerably more user-friendly than the other ones you have mentioned. O'Hare, continually year-on-year, is the worst performing airport in the US for flight delays and I find LAX to be one of the most horrible airports to need to travel through.

San Francisco, San Diego, Boston, Las Vegas + Dallas are, IMO, the best US Airports I've been to.


As an international visitor to Philippines, I've flown into NAIA T1 twice in recent months and admit to disliking it. It reminds me of the old Bangkok International Airport (which I think now services Thai domestic flights) but alot smaller and much less cafes / bars etc. Therefore, T3 is definately a step in the right direction and I hope it starts servicing international flights sooner rather than later.

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ito lang masasabi ko:

NAIA: Simplicity is best!:)

airports my personal experiences jul-august 08 trips

I arrived at the old terminal Jul 28 with my 3 month old bub. Took the Bangkok-Manila leg via Cebu pacific. I've requested that my bub's pram be taken to the outside of the plane/bridge during arrival but the request wasnt granted. (meaning.... i had to carry my baby and my hand baggage through immigration (lining up) and customs and try to take my luggage from the carrousel coz the pram went out last............very inconvenient.)

I went back to Bangkok via Cebu Pacific again.... Jul 30 and embarked from the old terminal still. I was asked to pay 1650.... i guess that was travel tax and another 2++ for another tax or whatever they call it.

Came back to the Philippines from bangkok with my hubby Aug. 7. This time in the new terminal. The customs tried to slug us to pay for an LCD monitor we purchased from bangkok. The customs officer told us........Magbayad na lang kayo mam kc puti naman asawa nyo. What the heck is that kind of reasoning???!!!! If their reason given to us is about the law then we wont argue about it. At the end of it, We didnt pay. I told them we are bringing the monitor back home with us when we leave for melbourne.

Flying to Legazpi. Getting in the terminal is a pain. Long lines from outside. People trying to help you for some "kayo na po ang bahala ma'm." When we got on the scanners, those officers asked what are on our luggages. I told them we'll just open the luggages if they've got problems. As i am trying to open the 1st luggage, the man said, "ok na po ma'm." What the heck???? " Kayo na po ang bahala ma'm." (Again???) Grrrr!!!! I just ignored them. Then we checked in. Went to the waiting area. The flight was delayed for half an hour.

Comming back with hubby and bub. I got the pram from the plane nd strolled to the arrival area. Gee it was a trek! From the Tarmack, we needed to get up the escalator and then get down. Gee. i asked if there was any elevators available for me to get through oz i've got a bub in the pram with me. I had to let through almost all of the people before we could get on the escalator........ and going down, a young guy extended help. Thank goodness!!! Its a real pain travelling with a baby or shall i say a real pain going through that terminal. Oh just a reminder, Dont let anybody touch your baggages if you dont have spare money!!!. They are there to help but for a donation of course! and they let you know that!

Final trip out of the country. Same airline to Bangkok. Same things -"kayo na ang bahala ma'm" sa may scanners. I just totally ignored them. I only paid 200 pesos (kc excempted daw ako-being a balik-bayan). aside from the terminal fee. Bakit a few weeks ago, sa old terminal 1650 binayaran ko?

Hay!!!!! travelling sa pinas!!!!!!!! Nakakabanas!!!

i don't undertand, but for 16 years travelling to manila once or twice a year (T1, T2 and recently T3), i had no bad experiences at all. just too lucky for 16 years? :nuts:

Nice to meet you! :hi:



I'm not the only one claiming to be able to do it in such a short time. See arianespace's post (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=24913646&postcount=853) that started it all. (And I don't know why you are including departing passengers in this particular discussion? We are only talking about exiting from the airport.)

Are we going to break each other's noses just because one can get out in 5 mins or not???LOL I'm not arguing, I'm just saying I haven't experienced making out of an airport in 5 mins directly from the gates down to curveside taxi cabs even from our tiny airport, even if I had a carry on luggage only... What's the big deal if I mentioned even the departing passenger sides???? It's like we are going to die thinking I've added the departing passengers in the discussion... sheeshhh, some people really LMAO

i don't undertand, but for 16 years travelling to manila once or twice a year (T1, T2 and recently T3), i had no bad experiences at all. just too lucky for 16 years? :nuts:

Same here, since I was little I never really had any problems in T1 and T2. I traveled with an infant to the Philippines as well and it was all a breeze... Maybe one time in lets say close to 30 years, a security guard before we exited to get in an airport taxi, the guard said "Merry Christmas" and it was in the month of May, some 7 years ago, I replied "Same to you" LOL but the last time I went there was 3 years ago, it was okay again...

Maybe some are just unlucky, some are not an easy target. Who knows, my cousin is married with a caucasian american, she never mentioned anything. I've traveled with my brother who looks more like pootie. He wasn't given a tough time at NAIA. Maybe we are just scary looking so they won't mess with us...LMAO

I've view the Boston and San Francisco Airports as considerably more user-friendly than the other ones you have mentioned. O'Hare, continually year-on-year, is the worst performing airport in the US for flight delays and I find LAX to be one of the most horrible airports to need to travel through.

San Francisco, San Diego, Boston, Las Vegas + Dallas are, IMO, the best US Airports I've been to.


As an international visitor to Philippines, I've flown into NAIA T1 twice in recent months and admit to disliking it. It reminds me of the old Bangkok International Airport (which I think now services Thai domestic flights) but alot smaller and much less cafes / bars etc. Therefore, T3 is definately a step in the right direction and I hope it starts servicing international flights sooner rather than later.

O'Hare and LAX being two of the busiest and biggest airports in the US can leave a not so pleasant experience for any travellers. LAX is doing a major renovations on its facilities in particular Tom Bradley, Im not quite sure about O'Hare if it is has any ongoing renovations but anyway better we get back to the topic on here which is NAIA. Have fun flying!!:)

Sorry but you obviously haven't flown much around Asia or the world for that matter :ohno:

And again sorry, I personally try to avoid LHR as much as possible. One of the worst (expensive, chaotic, one could go on and on) airports a passenger could choose for transit.

very well said...NAIA is better than other Asian airports.
LHR is a chaotic airport. personally, i don't like LHR.

I have to agree with PompeiiLad69 that NAIA is the worst Asian Airport. Vietnam is even poorer than the Philippines then they still managed to build a new airport and open it unlike NAIA Terminal 3 that we have to wait for 6 years before it opens. LHR/LGW is far better than NAIA to be honest.

I'm really sorry for letting it out. :ohno:





PompeiiLad69, are you from Portsmouth City, Hampshire??

Good Lord, you're from pompeii??? And you have the nerve to even look down on Manila airport? If I haven't been in your tiny island. I'd say you have the right to say these... heck, I don't want to be disrespectful to the people of pompeii, but the Philippines is a bit more modern than that tiny island where there is no direct flight in and out of that island nation, so, imagine how backward the airport there itself. I couldn't even find baby diapers around pompeii, no bottled water available either, and if there is, they are very seldom and damn expenpensive. It's like you went back in time, 30 years back. You guys have nice untouched beaches though...

I think he/she is from Portsmouth City here in Hampshire. Maybe he/she just changed the spelling of POMPEY which is the nickname of Portsmouth City.

I have to agree with PompeiiLad69 that NAIA is the worst Asian Airport. Vietnam is even poorer than the Philippines then they still managed to build a new airport and open it unlike NAIA Terminal 3 that we have to wait for 6 years before it opens. LHR/LGW is far better than NAIA to be honest.

I'm really sorry for letting it out. :ohno:





PompeiiLad69, are you from Portsmouth City, Hampshire??

Saigon's new airport was also way way delayed with its opening. Not fair to compare the new Saigon international airport with T1. Compare the old airport with T1, compare the new saigon airport with T3, since T3 is now open, though only partially.

Asian international airports I've been to: Beijing, Xiamen, Hongkong (both old and new), Thailand (both old and new), Singapore, Malaysia, Taipei, Bali, Jakarta, Hanoi, Ho chi minh (Saigon), and trust me, there are worse terminals than T1, specifically Jakarta and Bali and the old Saigon airport. T1 will still be placed among the lower ranks, but not lowest. T2 and T3? Haven't been to T3 so can't say yet. Later in November, if my flight to Guangzhou via Ceb Pac will push through. T1 looks old, but still quite functional. When was T1 opened? Early 80's? That's dinosaur years in terms of international airports!

i finally able to experience T3 last 05 sept. taken tons of shots but i have chosen shots that were not usually posted here well some of it..... T3 is not that bad at all. Hintayin lang natin maayos ang problema sa piatco and the gov't. so that miaa will start 100% work of the terminal...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2835096558_20e818a2aa.jpg?v=0

the controversial seating arrangement......... departure lobby


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payphones at the departure lobby.........they're working!


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another controversial topic...the plant boxes, yung covered area might be one of the future shops.


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sana glass na lang ginamit sa area na ito serating int'l and domestic gates. i hope they will change it when it's fully operational.

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spacious area for concessionaires

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chaikofi...nice interior if they have utilized the whole area

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we were able to use the aerobridge.............but

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.....we have to use the stairs at the end of the aerobridge to get to the plane, well because we flew the turbo type cebu pac plane :-)

more are coming.........

Those boxed plants look decent enough, nothing to be ashamed of that. :colgate:

AMEN MY FRIEND!!! BASTA MALINIS AT MAGANDA ANG SERVICE WITH A SMILE!!! AYOS NA AYOS NA IYON!!!:cheers:

^^ Very well said! :applause:

Bravo Greenarcher. You hit the nail on the head. :bash: :applause:

:applause::applause::applause:

And, this is one of the best posts ever.

I agree with this. Who cares with superficial beauty? Airports are not the only measure of a country's progress, economic development and beauty. Thank God, at least, we have airports to use. Better than nothing.

I'm very touched by this statement. I myself guilty of complaining. I commend this statement from Greenarcher. :applause:

Yes, MNL may not be that "impressive" but as long as it serves its purpose comfortably and safely, then that is really the true meaning of an airport. I would understand about complaints in the old domestic terminal but please do give T3 a chance to serve the Filipinos and the Philippines.

Yes mediocrity and corruption is taking toll in our land, but could there be no space for excellent execution and ideas? It seems that we have this mindset that everything is so damn pathetic in this country. There is still hope. We cannot just wave a magic wand and make those "first world transport infrastructures and what have you's" overnight, that is the reality. We still have a long way to go to improve our infrastructures. Like Jordin Sparks' song: "One Step at a Time, there's no need to rush..." T-3 is already a step ahead towards progress. All we need is more will power amongst ourselves.

Hay, yan ang hirap sa ating mga Pinoy talaga. Dapat nga magsaya tayo't meron nang bagong airport kesa sa wala.


thanks for the kind replies guys, im sorry i have to be so blunt. :)

anyways.. i think we could all agree that this unfair, irrelevant and senseless comparison has got to stop.. instead we should focus on what REALLY matters..

-how sturdy and strong the ceilings are and NOT how beautiful they look
-how accurate and on-time those monitor displays flight schedule and NOT how its a flat screen or some old CRT monitor
i could go on forever..

i mean i hope and im pretty sure that all the frustrations of the long lines at immigration, the corrupt and lazy airport personnel, the whole chaos overall are probably GONE once we are all back in our homes and we all open our balikbayan boxes for our family members and see all their happy faces once again. :)

there is soo much more to an airport than what it seems..

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we were able to use the aerobridge.............but

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.....we have to use the stairs at the end of the aerobridge to get to the plane,



:lol:

O'Hare and LAX being two of the busiest and biggest airports in the US can leave a not so pleasant experience for any travellers. LAX is doing a major renovations on its facilities in particular Tom Bradley, Im not quite sure about O'Hare if it is has any ongoing renovations but anyway better we get back to the topic on here which is NAIA. Have fun flying!!:)

Actually, it's Atlanta's Hartsfield international airport is the busiest in the US and the world, O'hare followed next, and then it's between LAX and I believe dallas airport followed as third, but, ATL and O'Hare normally fought the number one rank. Last time I was in O'hare, i believe less than 2 years ago, they had renovations and was added on. I think Atlanta has about 80 million passengers yearly and O'Hare is following real close to it.

^ :lol: too.. So cool.

i finally able to experience T3 last 05 sept. taken tons of shots but i have chosen shots that were not usually posted here well some of it..... T3 is not that bad at all. Hintayin lang natin maayos ang problema sa piatco and the gov't. so that miaa will start 100% work of the terminal...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2835096558_20e818a2aa.jpg?v=0

the controversial seating arrangement......... departure lobby


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2835103434_0e724425d5.jpg?v=0

payphones at the departure lobby.........they're working!


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2834273933_4c8852e3cf.jpg?v=0
another controversial topic...the plant boxes, yung covered area might be one of the future shops.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3103/2834279565_78bf5cd5e2.jpg?v=0
sana glass na lang ginamit sa area na ito serating int'l and domestic gates. i hope they will change it when it's fully operational.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3225/2835122808_cf7aabf24b.jpg?v=0
spacious area for concessionaires

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2834292903_12e39a6d70.jpg?v=0
chaikofi...nice interior if they have utilized the whole area

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/2834300271_090e4ec459.jpg?v=0
we were able to use the aerobridge.............but

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3042/2834327573_d6446ed64f.jpg?v=0
.....we have to use the stairs at the end of the aerobridge to get to the plane, well because we flew the turbo type cebu pac plane :-)

more are coming.........

:banana:

I just noticed that a lot of people sleep on the bench. Do you mean that there is a lot of delays or masyado lang marami ang gumagamit ng t3

part 2!!!


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one thing good having this seating arrangement is that, nobody is bothered at your back when you lean your head to take a nap :-)


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early morning flights cebu pac planes

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another shop coming at the north wing (boarding area)

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busy personnel at the tarmac


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i was wondering when i saw passengers still use the stairs going up to the plane when the aerobridge is already attached to the plane?


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i was enthralled when i saw luggages on this sorting carousel located at the ground floor. it was a huge luggage sorting machine

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i love the color :)

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tarmac was really busy at that time when we arrived @ 12:20pm, what more if all international airlines will transfer to T3?


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door leading to the arrival hall


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look at this plant arrangement located at the hallway leading to the immigration area.


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another shot of the luggage sorting machine


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leading to the baggage claim area

:banana:

I just noticed that a lot of people sleep on the bench. Do you mean that there is a lot of delays or masyado lang marami ang gumagamit ng t3

Masyado lang kamo maaga. Hehe!!! :D
Back in Domestic Terminal, you can't do that at the pre-departure area because of the uncomfy air conditioning and all seats are taken (sometimes standing ovation pa) hehe!! :D

dreamtofly, there were so many passengers that early morning probably because it was a weekend surprisingly a lot of foreigners. our flight was on time, no delays.

May I ask?
Except for taxi cabs, how do we access NAIA Terminal 3 through public transport?

Last time I was in O'hare, i believe less than 2 years ago, they had renovations and was added on.

ohare is expanding its runway: demolishing numerous cemeteries, destroying, and paying some suburbia (frank-something) to relocate somewhere upnorth or downsouth. they actually just started doing this not even like 3-4 months ago. however, it hs been a political annoyance for the past 5 years because some chunk of ohare is not included as cook county. its dupage county. obviously, those that had been affected didnt want to move

part 3 ............


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PNB branch located at the arrival hall


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nice seating arrangement at the arrival hall......many people waiting at the hall when we arrived, it is far more comfy now compare to T1,T2 & the old dom airport. it was a relief, really.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2834421527_dd482ffcaa.jpg?v=0
improvise flight information monitor located at the arrival hall........well, at least!


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exit passengers T-Z still closed. i think that area is where the ceiling that collapsed.

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airport offices in the first floor, below is the arrival hall


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i dunno where they are............:lol:


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at least here at the information, there were 2 personnel seen manning the desk.


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3262/2835279510_35f2cbdde8.jpg?v=0
really huge arrival hall


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still not working monitor located outside the arrival hall.


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anybody knows the name of this chapel?


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well manicured plants and grasses at the parking area.

Some of the guest sleeping are connecting guest from international to domestic. my friend told me from miaa, it will be privatized when the supreme court finally decides on the compensation for PIATCO/FRAPORT. Then it will be bid out again, so govt can concentrate on Clark's new terminal before 2010. Thats what i heard.

i think the place wont be that crowded as naia 1. except because air phil, pal express and domestic of cebu pac is there. Let's see.:O)

I wonder how crowded the place will look once all the airlines on NAIA1 finally move to terminal 3. It probably won't be anywhere near as bad as NAIA1 with the increased capacity. I hope everyone's enjoying the amount of free space while they can.

^^ One thing with bigger spaces, it gets filled up with more of the same crap. :lol:

Some of the guest sleeping are connecting guest from international to domestic. my friend told me from miaa, it will be privatized when the supreme court finally decides on the compensation for PIATCO/FRAPORT. Then it will be bid out again, so govt can concentrate on Clark's new terminal before 2010. Thats what i heard.

that's good news.

Well big space at this moment is certainly correct. But once all airlines use that new terminal, I doubt that there will be enough space. Especially if 10 member of your family will hated and sundo you. Maybe it might be the same scenario again in the old terminal that the relatives are off-limits inside the airport.:ohno::ohno:

Just to add my two-bit to the discussions regarding T3.

Around the UK, I have been to LHR (except T5), LGW, JER (Jersey, Channel Islands), GCI (Guernsey, Channel Islands), BHX (Birmingham), GLA (Glasgow), EDI (Edinburgh), EMA (Nottingham East Midlands) and LCY (London City) and I thought NAIA T1 and T2 are still so much better than these airports, except maybe LCY - I love the 15 minute check-in and in about the same amount of time, you can get out of your (mainly tiny STOL) plane, get your luggage and out the door to the taxi ranks in the same amount of time. I am sure you have heard of the T5 fiasco - I am dreading it as I will be passing through it during succeeding assignments on continental Europe.

With respect to the US airports I have used, the story is pretty much the same for JFK (never again), SFO (confusing signs to the rental return area made me miss my flight - and I was using a satnav!), PHL (horrendous - with makeshift plywood boards for security checking area), DTW, ATL (too big), MSP, LAS, CLT and even tiny SBN. With all teething pains associated with T3, I thought it's a great terminal which we all can be proud of.

With regards to T1, the problems I encountered were never related to the airport but inflicted by the airlines themselves - especially on the couple of times I flew via EK and KLM (not by choice and never again, by the way) - due to misinformed or inefficient counter and gate agents.

The lines are long, but sure they are moving. Besides, I have witnessed again and again and again that lines are slow due to occasional travellers who have no idea what NOT to pack in this day and age ("bawal po pala ang isang galon ng tubig tsaka family size Colgate"), or those who take so much time than necessary on the immigration counters ("I am a British citizen starting this year, kala ko di ko na kailangan ang departure cards" dialogue to an immigration officer).

Go T3!

Some of the guest sleeping are connecting guest from international to domestic. my friend told me from miaa, it will be privatized when the supreme court finally decides on the compensation for PIATCO/FRAPORT. Then it will be bid out again, so govt can concentrate on Clark's new terminal before 2010. Thats what i heard.

very good then. :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2834450867_61a7eeee49.jpg?v=0
anybody knows the name of this chapel?

Shrine of St. Therese

^^ Or specifically, the Shrine of St. Thèrese of the Child Jesus.

did anyone mention already? that the property manager for all of Ayala properties is the property manager of T3?

on the partition between domestic and international wing, i don't think it is necessary. the airport is intended for international flights, so eventually, domestic ones might move to where they truly belong. i hope that will not create too much chaos when it happens.

thank you for sharing the photos @ mucho! finally you were able to take photos...tons of them:okay:

@Ponso. I think it's just typical in arrival section of the terminal to have long lines particularly the immigration counters. In the US side, especially San Francisco or even Detroit and Minneapolis airports, the line were long especially in the non-US citizen counters. They take forever to get out as well because I had to wait on a friend who came over to the US for a visit with me. I did experience a long line even if you are a US citizen in San Francisco when they had to open another counter due to the number of arriving passengers and I never like that older pinay lady immigration officer, especially when she let several caucasians to pass through ahead of everybody even if they were Canadian citizens and oh BTW, she let my brother through because he looks white and she didn't friggin realized that we were brothers... But what can i do? I don't want to be hazzled and miss my connecting flight to midwest. That CU**!!! LMAO

@Ponso. I think it's just typical in arrival section of the terminal to have long lines particularly the immigration counters. In the US side, especially San Francisco or even Detroit and Minneapolis airports, the line were long especially in the non-US citizen counters. They take forever to get out as well because I had to wait on a friend who came over to the US for a visit with me. I did experience a long line even if you are a US citizen in San Francisco when they had to open another counter due to the number of arriving passengers and I never like that older pinay lady immigration officer, especially when she let several caucasians to pass through ahead of everybody even if they were Canadian citizens and oh BTW, she let my brother through because he looks white and she didn't friggin realized that we were brothers... But what can i do? I don't want to be hazzled and miss my connecting flight to midwest. That CU**!!! LMAO

Hi @mwg12a,

You're absolutely right especially in the post 9/11 US! And, oh, the immigration officers treat non-US citizens like a criminal before they let you in - as if you are part of Osama's ilk. The fingerprints and photographs just make me feel like a common thief on a police station. Also, do those guys ever smile at all? And ah, yes, at some point, I transited on a flight from LHR to JFK via DUB (Dublin, Ireland) - you actually have to pass through US immigration and customs right in DUB, just before you step on the plane. It was very surreal, but it saved me perhaps a lot of time because all I needed to do in JFK was to get my luggage and head to Manhattan. Still, it was not very pleasant on the way back and never again, JFK!

As for the UK immigration officers, sometimes I even think those back at MNL ask more questions than those in the UK, especially if you're getting through the backdoor airports (e.g. BHX) or have transited via Ireland (no passports checks on Ireland to UK flights) or another EU country (a quick look at your passport and off you go).

Back to NAIA - I think a lot of people dismiss T1 entirely just because it's not pretty enough compared to airports Pinoys use to transit such as SIN (my personal favorite), HKG, KUL (pretty but obviously underutilized - this is the best example of a white elephant), BKK, INC, KIX, NRT, DXB (a tacky duty free shop pretending to be an airport) or NGO.

However, I think everything works quite nicely in T1. In fact it's doing one heck of a job for a supposed overworked terminal. As I said, occasional travellers and the airlines themselves spell trouble for this airport, as with any other airport in the world.

So, what's there to complain about? I am really, really baffled. And here's comes T3, which may be pretty but not as nearly pretty as the others. So some people still complain! Putting it in a better perspective, I think we should be proud of this terminal and despite of all the initial troubles, I think it is a step in the right direction. Having been to 30+ odd airports around the world, I thought we can be proud of own T3.

Besides, an airport is there to get you to your plane in the shortest, most efficient possible time (and for me let me work in between flights - but lounges mostly are a problem for the airlines, not the airport management) - it's not a park or even a mall, even if a lot of airports around don't seem to make up their minds what they really are.

LHR and LGW better than MNL? Man, whoever wrote that does not use these airports often enough. Case in point - Christmas 2006 fog delays and the T5 fiasco. The only saving grace when I pass through these airports and I am travelling on business is the priority lane (don't ever rely on BA's lounges and timekeeping - expect delays, even on the first flights of the day). Everything else is a mayhem and I'll take NAIA any day.

Hi @mwg12a,

You're absolutely right especially in the post 9/11 US! And, oh, the immigration officers treat non-US citizens like a criminal before they let you in - as if you are part of Osama's ilk. The fingerprints and photographs just make me feel like a common thief on a police station. Also, do those guys ever smile at all? And ah, yes, at some point, I transited on a flight from LHR to JFK via DUB (Dublin, Ireland) - you actually have to pass through US immigration and customs right in DUB, just before you step on the plane. It was very surreal, but it saved me perhaps a lot of time because all I needed to do in JFK was to get my luggage and head to Manhattan. Still, it was not very pleasant on the way back and never again, JFK!

That is true with Canadian airports as well. On my trip to Toronto last year, coming back to the US, there is a separate section of the terminal just for US-bound flights out of YYZ (Toronto-Pearson International Airport). Separate check-in counters, customs, and immigration facilities from everyone else. Guess the INS wants to apprehend anyone on foreign soil first (within reason) before they even set foot in America. Which I don't blame them for doing so; of course, the advantage of that, when you arrive on the American side, you don't have to go through those formalities and just head to baggage claim to collect your luggage and then you're out the door.

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True. Suffered the same fate as well. I was told only destinations to the big ones do this, as they say logistical reasons, to save time on your arrival. However I'm not that sure though in regional international ports. I haven't traveled to lesser known airports in the States, like Toronto to a little known regional airport down south. Maybe you guys can confirm if its true?

Hey Ponso, glad to hear you are using LCY too, maybe to Glasgow or Edinburgh. I love that airport. Last time I was there, took a BA 146 from Amsterdam instead for an appointment somewhere at Docklands. Believe me I was there on my destination before the hour ends. Pretty fast rather than doing it Heathrow direct. Great for you to have experienced Guernsey as well. I haven't been to that tiny State. I don't know if it accessible from LCY. Anyway, going back, what you are saying on LHR is true. Probably others who enjoy marathon will appreciate it as such as if its a walk in the park with a 35 kilogram in tow. Well, not for me.:lol:

And ow, by the way if you noticed somebody from NAIA who would like to ask for something other than paying for rightful customs duties, feel free to call the hotline and file a written complaint. It works! Don't be part of the minions who are annoyed on this habit yet done nothing other than cursing words of what have you. :)

Guess the INS wants to apprehend anyone on foreign soil first (within reason) before they even set foot in America.

Preclearance applies to both U.S. citizens as well as citizens of most other countries who travel to the US. As the U.S. requires those in transit through the U.S. to pass through U.S. immigration (unlike many other countries, which permit airside transfers), preclearance also applies to transit passengers.

These facilities exist because of agreements made between the federal government of the United States and the government of the host country. Travelers who have passed through the U.S. government checks, but whose flight or ship has not departed, remain in the legal jurisdiction of the host country. U.S. officials may question and search travelers, but they do not have powers of arrest (either for customs or immigration violations, or for the execution of outstanding warrants), although they can deny boarding. Local criminal laws apply, and are enforced by local officials.

With all this talk about shabby treatment in u.s. or 1st world airports....no wonder china has now become the most visited place in the world....na overtake na niya ang tate....mukhang palubog na ang tate at pasikat naman ang emperyo ng china.....i myself had a bad experience when i visited the u.s. ...believe me their information desks there could hardly give you information.....or maybe i was just being descriminated against because i'm asian......i was told by american acquaintances when i told them my story... that people in massachusetts are snooty ....the place being america's inteligensia...

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True. Suffered the same fate as well. I was told only destinations to the big ones do this, as they say logistical reasons, to save time on your arrival. However I'm not that sure though in regional international ports. I haven't traveled to lesser known airports in the States, like Toronto to a little known regional airport down south. Maybe you guys can confirm if its true?

Hey Ponso, glad to hear you are using LCY too, maybe to Glasgow or Edinburgh. I love that airport. Last time I was there, took a BA 146 from Amsterdam instead for an appointment somewhere at Docklands. Believe me I was there on my destination before the hour ends. Pretty fast rather than doing it Heathrow direct. Great for you to have experienced Guernsey as well. I haven't been to that tiny State. I don't know if it accessible from LCY. Anyway, going back, what you are saying on LHR is true. Probably others who enjoy marathon will appreciate it as such as if its a walk in the park with a 35 kilogram in tow. Well, not for me.:lol:

And ow, by the way if you noticed somebody from NAIA who would like to ask for something other than paying for rightful customs duties, feel free to call the hotline and file a written complaint. It works! Don't be part of the minions who are annoyed on this habit yet done nothing other than cursing words of what have you. :)

LCY is the best indeed! Whether by taxi or by the Docklands Light Rail or by driving, I'm pretty sure you zipped to your appointment in no time - saan ba yan, sa Canary Wharf ba? I hope all airports are just like LCY - no hassle, no fuss. While it is a business oriented airport, I hear our kababayans from East London use it to connect to KLM's AMS-MNL flight.

Since I work for a Scottish bank, trips up north are obligatory. I used to live in nearby Blackheath so LCY was the best option for me for EDI flights. GLA has poor morning connections so I would head to LGW to get there, with a return flight to LCY of course. I have since relocated to Twickenham (yup, kinda near the stadium for the rugby fans out there) in West London, so I am tied to LHR for now. Our London offices are either just in front of the Bank ('Bank of England') station (where I work) and around the Bishopsgate area, near Liverpool St. station so LCY is the best choice if I am coming from the office to catch a flight as the DLR also terminates at Bank. True, the Heathrow Express gets you from Paddington in 15 minutes, but that is on the western edge of Central London and still takes up to 30 minutes from the City and even longer from Canary Wharf to get to Paddington first. Best of all, you get to avoid the Heathrow Hassle.

Flying out of LCY is quite an experience, right? Because of the short runway, the aircraft's engines (I am stuck with BA or the quirky Scot Airways which my boss loves, but I don't, so its a BAe146 plane just like yours), rev up to the max and then the plane shoots like a sling shot through the runway from the west towards the skyscrapers at Canary Wharf. Just above the Citigroup, Barclays, Bank of America and HSBC towers, it makes a hard right turn towards Scotland. Whew - a plane and a roller coaster ride rolled into one. Then the cabin is filled with the awful smell of the English breakfast BA serves. I would have picked up a croissant back at the terminal and just refuse the FA's offer. Believe me, I always get out of the plane smelling like a big pile of that horrible breakfast.

I thought VLM flies to the Channel Islands from LCY, but I flew there during my previous life in Birmingham - via FlyBE's Q300. I spent most of the time in Jersey - quite a quirky place, good food and at just 32 square miles, boring and very expensive. You can go on a day trip to France by boat or do some island hopping on really tiny planes - but my employer does not pay for that! I stayed at the L´Horizon Hotel on the southwestern coast of the island. I planned to stay for a weekend instead of flying back to BHX but I got on a plane to LGW the next day to spend it instead with friends in London ha ha!

With all this talk about shabby treatment in u.s. or 1st world airports....no wonder china has now become the most visited place in the world....na overtake na niya ang tate....mukhang palubog na ang tate at pasikat naman ang emperyo ng china.....i myself had a bad experience when i visited the u.s. ...believe me their information desks there could hardly give you information.....or maybe i was just being descriminated against because i'm asian......i was told by american acquaintances when i told them my story... that people in massachusetts are snooty ....the place being america's inteligensia...

One of my former colleagues who was born in the UK, a UK citizen and whose parents were (unfortunately) originally from Pakistan tells me that when he and his brother visited NYC, the immigration officer led them to a room with cameras and questioned for some time ("where are you from", "what do you plan to do", "what do you do" [his bro is a doctor], etc.) before they are allowed to the US. He described it as a very humiliating experience and plans never to go back.

From all the anecdotes I heard, that was the killer..!

And ow, by the way if you noticed somebody from NAIA who would like to ask for something other than paying for rightful customs duties, feel free to call the hotline and file a written complaint. It works! Don't be part of the minions who are annoyed on this habit yet done nothing other than cursing words of what have you. :)

Exactly! Do not succumb yourself to all those bullcrap some airport employees are commiting. Even the porters that roams around are aware that the passengers should not hand them a tip nor even attempt to hand gifts of any form, they are supposed to refuse it. They even mentioned it to you although some of them hope that once you stepped out of the building that you may probably feel bad for them and hand a little bit of something but you really don't have to. You can report them and they surely will get fired once someone reported them, don't just run our mouths and not ever do anything about it. Otherwise, if you don't want to be a part of it, ignore the staff if they seems to be hinting you something but don't give cash nor run your mouth on them, go to the right channel. That's probably why I never remembered anything untoward happened to me in the past, because I never paid attention to some of them and besides nobody really attempted to bum for some cash from me except once.

One of my former colleagues who was born in the UK, a UK citizen and whose parents were (unfortunately) originally from Pakistan tells me that when he and his brother visited NYC, the immigration officer led them to a room with cameras and questioned for some time ("where are you from", "what do you plan to do", "what do you do" [his bro is a doctor], etc.) before they are allowed to the US. He described it as a very humiliating experience and plans never to go back.

From all the anecdotes I heard, that was the killer..!


I bet these things happen every now and then, especially people with an arab muslim background, it's a random check on some people. It's hard to blame the US authorities because remember this british citizen who was tagged as "shoe bomber" he even has a british accent and was raised in the UK, he was on board an American jetliner when he attempted to detonate a bomb in his shoes, it was so lucky that the male passengers were able to overpowered him and apprehended. These things happened as well with US citizens who happen to be of middleeastern and Pakistani descend, sometimes even if they have a high profile job, it does no excempt them from being scrutinized first before the US authorities would let them go, my best bet would be, one of them might have similar name to the list of terrorists so they end up being subjected to interrogation. Worse if you have the same facial feature. Good thing I have spanish sounding name otherwise, Who knows ?I would have been subjected to racial profiling since I also look like an arab. I am aware of it so I try to dress up more like americans to atleast blend in.

True. Suffered the same fate as well. I was told only destinations to the big ones do this, as they say logistical reasons, to save time on your arrival. However I'm not that sure though in regional international ports. I haven't traveled to lesser known airports in the States, like Toronto to a little known regional airport down south. Maybe you guys can confirm if its true?

My trip was from Toronto to MCO (Orlando Internationl Airport). It's not a "little known" airport in the South, but it isn't a mega hub airport either.