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xDieselJockx

October 3rd, 2005, 08:43 AM

WHAT IS ALL THESE????

Metro (as of 2:18 AM)

MIAA fails to issue lease contracts to airlines

By JONATHAN M. HICAP
The Manila Times Reporter

The Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) has failed to issue the lease contracts to international airlines Friday for their transfer to the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3.

A source at the airport said the Office of the Solicitor General, which is reviewing the provisions of the contract, was not able to deliver the contracts on Friday as previously agreed.

The MIAA has said it would issue the contracts before the end of September in preparation for the NAIA 3’s dry run in December and full operations by January 2006.

Despite the delay, airlines are assured of lease rates that are lower than what the Philippine International Air Terminals Co. Inc. (PIATCO) has offered.

Another airport official said that the government will be offering rates, which are more or less 10 percent lower than PIATCO’s.

Although Philippine Airlines has not decided if it would transfer to NAIA 3, the source said talks are going on to woo the flag carrier to transfer to Terminal 3.

PAL has previously said that it would transfer to NAIA 3 if three things are met: the integration of its domestic and international operations, the construction of a cargo terminal at NAIA 3 and a status quo on the lease rates.

The government has decided to operate the NAIA 3 before it considers allowing a private group runs it.

The Manila Hotel group of Emilio Yap and the Asia’s Emerging Dragon Corp. of Lucio Tan are wooing the government for the operation of the NAIA 3.

Looks like the opening date is going to be even later than january, 2006. They didn't even mention the reason why the contract was not issued last friday.

richard fischer

October 3rd, 2005, 09:54 PM

what did you expect xdieseljockx. i just hope the next generation in power will be more serious with their resources.....

allin101

October 3rd, 2005, 10:23 PM

xDieselJockx

October 4th, 2005, 02:17 AM

surprise.... surprise....., but i'm not surprise at all. you're right richard, the problem of this people in the government is lack of political power, leave things to be done tomorrow attitude. i'm due to go be in the philippines soon and really looking forward to see and use this terminal but i think i just have to keep on dreaming about it.

you probably mean political will allin , they have politcal power they just don't use it wisely. But, you are right,it has become a common trend in the Philippines, not just the government. Anything can be done today is set aside for tomorrow until time runs out and then they cram everything at the last minute.

bustero

October 4th, 2005, 10:42 AM

I don't think a mall that anybody can just walk in and shop is the idea here, the mall they are refering to might be all duty freeshops that will have an aura of a real mall for those with long waiting period before departure because if a mall is built in an airport where even well wishers can come in and shop, there would be security issues there, I dont think that is a good idea. Or is it a Mall next to the terminal that has an access area???? Anybody can comment on these? thank you...

The 20k sq.m. is integrated in both the security area and in the public level. The system is similar to most airports now. Take HK as an example, when you check in your bags well wishers can bring you there and there are numerous shops and food places before you enter the security area where immigration, and other higher security measures are done. In fact before you check in there are no security measures. This is replicated in NAIA3 , on the side of the check in area and on the second level above the waiting lounges they designed numerous stalls for shops. There is no physical second building , it's all integrated in one building.

xDieselJockx

October 4th, 2005, 10:59 PM

Thanks Bustero, I didn't know all these until today. That's really nice to know that even if I arrive at the airport much earlier like 4 to 5 hours earlier for instance, I won't have to wait outside doing nothing, not that it happened to me but I've read something in a previous NAIA thread and info which is mostly about NAIA 1 where there are cases that the passengers have to wait outside under the heat or is turned away if they arrive way too early.

marites4

October 5th, 2005, 01:08 AM

If they'll allow wellwishers and everyone else inside that'll be one crowded airport. he he

renell

October 5th, 2005, 04:54 AM

^ works in other cities, why not T3 if it opens (again the question if). I guess a lot of the Manilenos impression of an airport is Terminal 1......

bustero

October 5th, 2005, 05:32 AM

The new airport is well designed with filipinos inmind. Knowing our penchant for casablanca type goodbye's with the rest of our families watching. The new airport has loads of space for this and even more for the barangay waiting for all of you balikbayans when you come bring in their pasalubongs. I just hope the airport authorities actually use it!

A good example is the Davao airport , a beautiful modern terminal with a well designed waiting area and large open area for check in. The local authorities have turned it into another third world airport where only the people checking in can go in FROM OVER THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY AND RAMP FROM THE PARKING LOT. Same thing with the Waiting area, in spite of the modern design which allowed for this now the passenger actually has to go to the parking area and wait in a makshift tent rather than the expensive glass canopies they built!

xDieselJockx

October 5th, 2005, 11:25 AM

If they'll allow wellwishers and everyone else inside that'll be one crowded airport. he he

That's what I am thinking! Maybe for year it will have enough space for everybody but come 2 years after, I have the feeling that they will limit the number of well wishers and greeters coming in.

Looking back in the old pictures posted here( or the past NAIA threads), I have never noticed any space that might possibly indicate the area for the mall? where is it going to be? That Q is for anybody....

amras

October 5th, 2005, 06:56 PM

just like what @bustero said, it is an integrated mall.

stephencua

October 6th, 2005, 02:53 AM

lookie what i found!!! taken from inq7.net.. it looks like things will the future will finally look brighter next year!!!

PAL gets offer to transfer to NAIA 3
Posted: 2:10 AM | Oct. 06, 2005

Clarissa S. Batino
Inquirer News Service

PHILIPPINE Airlines (PAL) has received an offer of "reasonable" rates from the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) for it to transfer to the new Terminal 3 of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport, PAL president Jaime Bautista said.

PAL at present has exclusive use of the NAIA 2 terminal, which it uses for both domestic and international flights. All other carriers use NAIA 1, Manila's oldest international air terminal.

Bautista told the Inquirer: "The offer is not too far from what we are paying them now at the NAIA 2. If the price difference is not that high, then we can move there."

Aside from the issue of fees, Bautista said transferring to the new terminal would depend on MIAA's allowing it to integrate its domestic and overseas operations at NAIA 3. Operating under one roof is more efficient in terms of costs and operations, he noted.

Bautista doubted, though, that Terminal 3 would open by December.

PAL, controlled by tobacco tycoon Lucio Tan, is in its sixth year of a financial rehabilitation program under which its creditors require it to meet operational and financial targets.

NAIA 3 is supposed to be a dedicated terminal for international operations. Its operations are not expected to be viable without PAL's volume.

PAL is the largest Philippine airline, operating 32 aircraft for passenger and cargo in domestic and overseas routes.

Bautista said, "What is important right now is that we are talking to MIAA. The communication lines are open."

Meanwhile, Asia's Emerging Dragon Corp. (AEDC), the original proponent of a new international air terminal in Manila -- and also controlled by Tan -- has offered to pay the government $300 million for the right to operate NAIA 3.

Tan is wooing his former partners in AEDC to buy back their shares and help him win the NAIA 3 project. With INQ7.net

Solblanc

October 6th, 2005, 01:46 PM

^nothing we haven't heard before... :(

marites4

October 6th, 2005, 05:18 PM

Can someone draft a letter please, we can all sign it and mail it to GMA and congressmen.

renell

October 7th, 2005, 03:51 AM

^nothing we haven't heard before... :(

again it's even more talk. So January 2006 is the new "due date"?

Solblanc

October 7th, 2005, 03:54 AM

there's no point in them announcing a "due date" until

1)takenaka signs the contract with the government to finish the terminal
2)MIAA actually releases lease contracts

xDieselJockx

October 7th, 2005, 12:43 PM

there's no point in them announcing a "due date" until

1)takenaka signs the contract with the government to finish the terminal
2)MIAA actually releases lease contracts

Maybe the authorities are trying to make themselves look like they are actually working .... :hahaha: :nocrook: :rant: :dunno: :runaway:

xDieselJockx

October 8th, 2005, 08:52 AM

AEDC insists right to operate NAIA 3

By JOHN ANTHONY A. CONCEPCION, abs-cbnNEWS.com

Ismael Villareal, newly appointed president of Asia's Emerging Dragons Corporation, on Saturday urged the government to award the concession of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Terminal 3 to Lucio Tan-controlled AEDC.

Villareal, a retired military general, said that since the Supreme Court has declared the right of the Philippine International Air Terminal Co. Inc. (PIATCO) consortium to operate Terminal 3 as null and void, the government should go back to the initial stages of the build-operate-transfer (BOT) process.

"The government should start again at a point where PIATCO was disqualified by the Supreme Court, which is at the bidding process," he said at the weekly Kapihan sa Sulo Hotel news forum.

Villareal noted that PIATCO and AEDC were the only bidders for the operation of the project.

"Since AEDC remains as the only bidder, then it should be awarded the operation of the airport facility," he said, adding that AEDC is willing to shell out $300 million for the project.

Villareal said the government has only three options in dealing with the Terminal 3 problem: it can operate the airport, sell it or go back to the BOT process.

He said the last option would be the most logical solution to the problem as it is in accordance with the government policy under the BOT law.

"We are trying to remind you (government) that we are here, ready to take over the project in accordance with the law," Villareal said.

Manila Hotel Corp. (MHC) earlier bought the shares of Fraport AG in the PIATCO consortium.

Villareal said most sectors believe MHC cannot operate Terminal 3 even if it buys into PIATCO.

"Any company buying into PIATCO is inheriting a null and void concession," he said.

Villareal said the Supreme Court's nullification of PIATCO's right to operate and manage Terminal 3 precludes the right of MHC to exercise management over the facility.

Reports, meanwhile, said Fraport AG has accepted an offer worth $200 million for its stake in PIATCO from MHC.

The German company earlier sought arbitration from the World Bank in Washington to settle a dispute over compensation for the terminal. The Philippine government had rejected Fraport’s request for $425 million in compensation then seized Terminal 3 in December.

mysaong03

October 10th, 2005, 03:07 AM

the new Bangkok airport will officially open very soon!! as shown in CNN commercials. Thaksin also boasts the design & modernity of the new terminal to the viewers...

o god our situation is really sickening, nakakainggit ang thailand :)

marites4

October 10th, 2005, 03:58 AM

maengayo sana ang mga namumuno .

kiretoce

October 10th, 2005, 08:41 PM

All for shoo
Conrado R. Banal III Inquirer News Service Oct. 11, 2005

ALL RIGHT, so the Department of Tourism pulled off a little coup in London. Its catchphrase, "WOW! Philippines," has been making the rounds of that city like a real tourist -- you know, on rip-off taxicabs.

Who knows? Today, the taxicabs in London; tomorrow, the FBI computers in Washington!

I mean, not for espionage, okay! We're in the cyber age and, with the help of the Internet, we can surely bring our tourism campaign "WOW! Philippines" even to those people in the FBI and CIA.

Maybe they will come to our country as tourists sometime. Unlike today, they always come here as spies, who amass information -- right in our own country -- about our affairs, which they use for their own interest. And nobody here minds them, much less bothers them with threats of imprisonment.

Somehow, the "WOW! Philippines" campaign can bring in the tourists. So when the tourists come, what do we do? Really, we can wow the whole world all we want, but in the end, for us to earn those billions of tourist dollars, we still have to build our tourism infrastructure.

We still have an old ugly rundown airport.

* * *

BUT hopefully, things will change soon, because we are rushing to open the new, but still unfinished, terminal of Manila's Ninoy Aquino International Airport, called NAIA 3.

We have been rushing construction of the new airport for the past 13 years now. And so, we can expect to open it anytime soon, perhaps over the next lifetime.

Whether we like it or not, the airport is the frontliner of the tourism show. The airport, as my Apong Oning used to say, "is like our best foot forward ... it is about making a lasting first impression, so that we can let the cat out of the bag of tricks or treat." Something like that!

For the problematic NAIA 3, the original opening target date was 1999 or 2000 at the latest.

That was the understanding in the nullified contract between the administration of Kuya Eddie (a.k.a. former president Fidel Ramos) and the company called PIATCo.

It's already 2005 and the terminal has yet to open. Worse, it has yet to be completed. The reason for such tardiness is definitely not the so-called "Filipino time."

* * *

PIATCO'S original proposal was all for show, and so this cute administration had to shoo the firm out of the project. As things stand, the project is at a standstill.

The main reason was pure and simple: lack of money. PIATCo -- Philippine International Air Terminals Co. -- as the original concessionaire, did not have the money to start with.

Thus, PIATCo took its sweet time to commence construction. The Department of Transportation and Communication (DoTC) gave the concession to PIATCo in 1997. PIATCo was able to delay it because of a side agreement, which allowed PIATCo to start construction a year later. This was extended by another year through another "amendment agreement."

Under the contract, NAIA 3 should be in full operation after only 30 months from the date of award. Again, that's FULL operation.

Through some magic, PIATCo got from DoTC some 17 changes in the original agreement, including the removal of the 30-month deadline for full operation.

But it took PIATCo some three years to look for a financier, which turned out to be the German firm Fraport AG.

The project only started three long years after the Cheng family bagged the contract in 1997, or until Fraport could come in with the funding in 2000.

In other words, construction only started when the project was supposed to have been finished.

Whadayano, today the project is not yet finished! Wow, Philippines indeed!

* * *

WHEN Fraport got in, it wasted no time in financing everything, giving this cute administration reason to investigate Fraport for alleged violation of the anti-dummy law.

(Between us girls, I heard that the National Bureau of Investigation's investigation is done.)

PIATCo simply did not have the financial capability for such a huge venture.

In fact, according to the Senate blue ribbon report, PIATCo included the total net worth of Security Bank to show it had the money.

Okay, the bank was an investor in NAIA 3, through the company called SB Airport (SB as in Security Bank), but banking rules prohibit banks from investing more than 15 percent of its net worth in a single venture.

And then, PIATCo's main stockholder Vic Cheng Yong even claimed in Senate "blue ribbon" public accountability committee hearings that he is related to the owners of the company that makes the Baguio Oil brand of cooking oil.

He was a chemist in Baguio Oil, period.

That's why, by the way, this cute administration charged the father and son Chengs with plunder, including former DoTC secretary Pantaleon Alvarez, Fraport executives Bernd Struck and Hans-Arthur Vogel, and a certain Jose Gabriel Benedicto, reportedly a former partner at the Romulo Mabanta law office.

The case is now with the Supreme Court for resolution. Oh, by the way, plunder can get you the capital punishment.

* * *

AFTER PIATCO, or whatever it was that hit the fan, this cute administration filed case after case in connection with NAIA 3.

But who would try to use his political influence to fix those cases but the one and only newspaper owner Emilio Yap, also known as "Don" Emilio?

Still, after all the publicity about the entry of the "Don" into the NAIA 3 project, through Manila Hotel Corp., nobody really saw any proof of money changing hands.

Yet the NAIA 3 project needs some $100 million to be completed. One concern is security, which is only the biggest concern in all airports in the world.

The NAIA 3 has no road links to the domestic terminals, for instance, which would force passengers and cargo (i.e., transit traffic) to get out of the terminals, go to public roads, and then get into another terminal again.

Even DoTC Secretary Leandro Mendoza, a former head of the Philippine National Police, agreed that it was a major security problem.

Now, does the "Don" really have the money to finish the terminal?

Look, when the "Don" supposedly bought the same Manila Hotel from the state-run pension fund Government Service Insurance System (GSIS), he left some loose change of P1 billion unpaid. The wonder of it all is that the GSIS has yet to collect from the "Don." And the GSIS is not even trying.

* * *

TO TOP it all, this broke but still cute administration plans to borrow P30 billion for the airport, partly to pay PIATCo and Fraport for the work they did so far, and also to complete the project once and for all.

Winston, we have a problem. Reynaldo David, president of government-owned Development Bank of the Philippines, says the government will need much more than P30 billion for NAIA 3.

And mind you, this cute administration is already burying us under a mountain called national debt. I am not sure that incurring more debts for NAIA 3 is such a wise move. Our foreign creditors won't be jumping for joy, they will charge us with interest rates that will run up to the next solar system.

So, as the song goes, how do you solve a problem like NAIA 3?

Well, it so happens that the original group tapped by the Kuya Eddie administration for the project wants to make a comeback.

It is made up of the country's "taipans" (i.e., filthy rich Chinese-Filipinos), in the company known as AEDC. This company definitely has money.

For that was the original concept -- that those with money coming out of their ears should do something good for the country, such as building an airport terminal with the minimal charge to the public, but with the biggest impact on the travel industry.

The process goes something like this: Since the taipans already have the money, they can pay this cute administration for the terminal right away, the Palace then turns around to pay PIATCo the compensation for the expropriated project, and -- presto -- we have an operational terminal.

The biggest question is, how much is the unfinished facility worth. For AEDC -- Asia's Emerging Dragon Corp. -- the amount it should give to the government could be based on a valuation from experts. For this cute administration, the amount it should give to PIATCo should be determined by an audit. PIATCo must open its books.

Come on, we started work on the new airport more than 10 years ago. There's got to be a way to hurry the project even if just a bit. The tourists are coming!

Skyblade

October 10th, 2005, 10:05 PM

There's got to be a way to hurry the project even if just a bit. The tourists are coming!
Amen! What better way to leave a first impression of the nation than by the port of entry? :rant:

allin101

October 10th, 2005, 11:34 PM

i second the motion. poor juan de la cruz who always have to pick up the pieces and consequences made by irresponsible and selfish people in the country. :ohno:

tigidig14

October 11th, 2005, 04:12 AM

this might be redundant but here's another one about AEDC

Gov’t urged to award
Terminal 3 to AEDC

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ISMAEL Villareal, newly elected president of Asia’s Emerging Dragons Corporation, has called on the government to award the concession of the NAIA Terminal 3 to the Lucio Tan-controlled AEDC.

"The government should start again at a point where Piatco (Philippine International Air Terminal Co. Inc.) was disqualified by the Supreme Court, which is at the bidding process," said Villareal, a retired military general.

Piatco and AEDC were the only bidders for the operation of the project.

Villareal said AEDC is willing to shell out $300 million for the project as proof that they have the capacity and financial means to run the facility.

He said government only has three options in dealing with the Terminal 3 problem: it can operate the airport, sell it or go back to the BOT (build-operate-transfer) process.

Transportation Secretary Leandro Mendoza has said that Manila International Airport Authority will take charge of the terminal’s operations.

The government plans to open the facility twice with a soft opening on December and a full opening in the first quarter of next year.

Manila Hotel Corp. (MHC) earlier bought the shares of Fraport AG in the Piatco consortium.

Villareal said most sectors believe MHC cannot operate Terminal 3 even if it buys into Piatco.

"Any company buying into Piatco is inheriting a null and void concession," he said.

Villareal said the Supreme Court’s nullification of Piatco’s right to operate and manage Terminal 3 precludes the right of MHC to exercise management over the facility.

xDieselJockx

October 11th, 2005, 12:35 PM

:banana: tig, I posted this news already, scroll up...LOL :banana:

alex25

October 11th, 2005, 12:56 PM

they should hurry up,.. I'm getting tired of NAIA 1 and 2

tootsjap

October 11th, 2005, 03:14 PM

If I were the government, I should have not asked the Supreme Court the nullify the contract in the very first place. Government signed the contracts with Piatco and Fraport. You don't check if a contract is disadvantageous or not after you've signed it. Due diligence should be before signing the contract and succeeding amendments. What I would have done is negotiate again the contract with Piatco and see if there is a way to cut losses and strike an acceptable win-win dahil wala na, napasubo na eh. Then let the airport open. Whatever other kinks in the contract, I would continuously negotiate with PIATCO but the airport should already operate and provide the nation tangible and intangible benefits already in terms of image to the outside world. Now the government is in deep shit. The airport is not open. It will have to spend millions of $$ to fight PIATCO and Fraport in International courts. Moreover, it has to face the fact that there is no more contract to work with. Ang sama ng diskarte and I blame the GMA administration for all these blunders.

Now if I am government, this what I will do. I will negotiate with PIATCO and Fraport in good faith for their asking price. Negotiate hard and long until we strike a win-win. The final price may be higher than what government is willing to pay for but I'll pay for it anyway to quickly cut losses. In other words, I will have government buy its way out of this mess. I'll issue NAIA 3 bonds to get funding. Then I will sell again the airport to a new consortium who wish to run it like AEDC. Government may lose some money but I believe it can easily recover it through the peripheral money revenue generating effects of having a new airport (i.e. increased travel and tourism). Heck we have thrown away good money to non-performing stuff like Napocor and BNPP. Why not throw away some good money to something as important to the country's image such as a world class international airport.

bustero

October 11th, 2005, 04:40 PM

Unfortunately that's too commonsensical a solution. Gov't prefers convoluted solutions that take thrice as long involving unnecesary paryoffs.

tigidig14

October 11th, 2005, 08:34 PM

nakakahiya i just saw some news in yahoo na bubuksan na daw yung airport sa bangcock, Mas maganda nga sa airport nating bagong, meron pa silang super weird na walkway. bali ipabibili ko na lang kay daddy bush yung airport para mabuksan na.

Æsahættr

October 12th, 2005, 04:16 AM

Sooo... when is it opening?

richard fischer

October 13th, 2005, 09:08 AM

well, at least someone seems to trust the opening of the T 3 for soon.....

Property giant Megaworld Corporation is putting up a 350-room Marriot Hotel as an anchor project for a groundbreaking, 25-hectare mixed-use development called Newport City at the Villamor air base in Pasay City. Megaworld told the Securities and Exchange Commission that it had signed a memorandum of understanding on the hotel project with Marriot Hotels International B.V., which owns the Marriott chain of first-class, full-service hotels and worldwide. Megaworld is tapping Marriott to manage the hotel as part of the Marriot Hotels, Resorts & Suites group. Megaworld also wants Marriott to act as its technical adviser during the planning, designing, construction and furnishing stages of the project. This will ensure that the hotel will be built and furnished to world-class standards. Newport City, bounded by Andrews Avenue and Sales Street, borders the Villamor golf course on the east side and faces the new terminal of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport on the west side.

renell

October 13th, 2005, 09:50 AM

well it expects by three years time it will be at least opened, or at least when it finishes. it's moving at such a snails pace that all this blabbing will probably finishs just before this Megaworld project finishes

SKYLINEPIGEON

October 13th, 2005, 11:17 AM

Sooo... when is it opening?

meron daw soft opening sa dec or jan nxt yr abangan

kiretoce

October 13th, 2005, 08:02 PM

No exclusivity for any airline in any terminal, not even PAL — FVR
By Anjo Perez & Louie Perez

NINOY AQUINO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT — Former President Fidel V. Ramos has called on the government to do everything possible to open the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Terminal 3.

He said that the master plan for Terminals 1, 2, and 3, which was drawn up during his administration, calls for an airport system that is "traveler friendly" with no exclusivity be given to any particular airline, not even Philippine Airlines — to have exclusive use of any terminal.

"By all means. Let’s try to have NAIA 3 activated so that there will be more facilities for handling the growing number of passengers and cargo," Ramos said prior to his departure Wednesday for China where he will keynote two business forums.

Ramos said that with the NAIA 3 still closed, the government is doing a disservice to the Filipino people by depriving them of better airport facilities.

According to Ramos, the government is committed to serve the people by providing them with efficient and hassle-free traveling experience.

The former President disclosed that in the master plan drawn up during his term, they visualized the connection of the three airport terminals as well as the Clark International Airport by all kinds of inter-modal transportation that would enable passengers and cargo to switch from airplane to railway, highway, or subway, and back.

He said that passengers are having difficulty with the current system and cited as example an Overseas Filipino Worker arriving from the Middle East, who has to check out from the NAIA with all his belongings, then lug them to the "rundown" Manila Domestic Airport, and check in again just to get to his destination in the province.

"The Philippines deserves a better airport system, especially in the vicinity of Manila, which is our port of entry," Ramos said.

"If air travelers are served efficiently, smoothly, and without too much hassle, everybody who leaves or comes into the country would be in a happy mood," Ramos added.

ryanr

October 13th, 2005, 08:06 PM

^^ :applause: Go FVR...if someone knows how this airport (among other things) should run, its him!

SKYLINEPIGEON

October 13th, 2005, 08:10 PM

thats why pal is the best airline for returning filipinos going home to visayas and mindanao provinces because of t2 but i still hope that pal will move to t3 and the government expdedite the interconnection betwenn t2 an t3 so that transiting pax in mnl going home to their final domestic destinations will have a smooth and hassle free experience

tigidig14

October 13th, 2005, 08:22 PM

^ neeeh, cebpacific is better, they even have some tacky games.

mysaong03

October 13th, 2005, 09:04 PM

SKYLINEPIGEON

October 13th, 2005, 09:11 PM

IST ONLY 25 HECTARE ITS NO SO BIG

ryanr

October 13th, 2005, 09:25 PM

25 Hectares is not bad...Its bigger than Eastwood City which is only 16 Hectares, and look how much they were able to fit in there:D

btw, isnt there a Newport City thread? If not, feel free to start one and continue discussion in the appropriate thread.

richard fischer

October 14th, 2005, 12:00 AM

yes definately PAL has all acess in their hands. with the immediate connex from international to domestic and visa versa, it´s very convenient. and it should stay that way. it gives PAL a better standing towards CEB with their lower rates and newer planes.

thats why pal is the best airline for returning filipinos going home to visayas and mindanao provinces because of t2 but i still hope that pal will move to t3 and the government expdedite the interconnection betwenn t2 an t3 so that transiting pax in mnl going home to their final domestic destinations will have a smooth and hassle free experience

xDieselJockx

October 14th, 2005, 12:52 AM

Solblanc

October 14th, 2005, 03:49 AM

Okay, this is just an innocent and curious question for anybody here who might know the answer. Besides being very advantageous for PAL to stay in one roof for an obvious reason, connectivity and cost saving for the company. Why is it so important for the Phil government that PAL international should move to T3? Does that mean T3 will not make enough money with just an all international air carriers in T3 alone?

terminal 3's design capacity is 13 million passengers, and terminal 1 is around five. If PAL doesn't move to T3, then the terminal will be severely underutilised, as less airlines means less passengers, less spaces to be leased out as offices and lounges, less concessionaires, and in the end, less money. as it stands, if PAL moves its international passengers to T3 and shares with every other airline, then terminal utilization could be about half the design capacity.

What I do wish, though, is that they build a tunnel and a monorail connecting NAIA 2 & 3, putting the connectivity issue to rest.

xDieselJockx

October 14th, 2005, 04:58 AM

Well, that's a sad thing. I guess I thought the Philippines is doing real well with tourism that just an all international airlines companies alone can be enough to sustain the cost and expenses in running T3 atleast.

I guess everybody needs to stop dreaming of a monorail or an underground tunnel but just an access road and shuttle buses that will load connecting passengers to the domestic terminals as the Philippines simply can't afford it, to just wait until the authorities would have the budget for it.

bustero

October 14th, 2005, 05:03 AM

PR makes up nearly half of all international Passengers, so if they don't show up in the terminal , it's only half utilized as per original design. eventually of course 13 million is not big and even without PR will be used and even expanded but in the next 5 years it might actually operate at a loss.

I actually believe if you had people like Chichos luciano who is pushing DMIA, you could actually get more planes to fly here on the cheap and this would increase toursim substantially. This assumes that Lucio Tan through PR and then CAB will not choke this. For a country our size we really should be flying out more people and flying in more tourist.

But I agree with pareng whitesun on the cool interconnection.

and yes we do have a newport city thread, in fact sandin started a new one this morning.

richard fischer

October 14th, 2005, 11:10 PM

marites4

October 15th, 2005, 09:52 PM

ganda naman ng bagong airport ng Bangkok. waahh :bash:

tigidig14

October 16th, 2005, 07:27 AM

NAIA starts using high-tech detectors

By JONATHAN M. HICAP, The Manila Times Reporter

The Manila International Airport Authority is now using powerful x-rays in baggage screening at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport.

To enhance security at the NAIA, four x-rays and two trace detectors were purchased.

The high-end x-ray machines are equipped with threat image projection (TIP), which are capable of detecting explosive materials in suitcases.

The United States Federal Aviation Administration uses the same technology in different airports.

The TIP feature, according to the MIAA management, enhances suspicious elements detected in bags that pass through x-ray machines by highlighting them.

The trace detectors, on the other hand, are capable of tracing compounds that are used in making explosives.

The Airport Security Inspectorate Office said that in the first week of October, officials assigned at the initial x-ray/checkpoint at the departure area of the NAIA Terminal 1 arrested persons carrying ammunition.

Airport General Manager Alfonso Cusi said more security personnel were added at the initial check-in area.

"I want to reiterate to passengers that by bringing prohibited materials at the airport, they not only risk missing their flight, they are also at risk of having a civil case filed against them," Cusi said.

olineil

October 16th, 2005, 08:06 AM

ganda naman ng bagong airport ng Bangkok. waahh :bash:

Check this out...we can now see how much we are being left behind because of the bickering of politicians...

Bankok Airport Interior (damn!)
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2962/637dsc043916mh.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7925/g377503657zm.jpg

Gates
http://homepage.mac.com/zoowatch/.Pictures/First%20Technical%20Flight/092252_IMG_3957.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/zoowatch/.Pictures/First%20Technical%20Flight/101744_IMG_4044.jpg

The Whole Freaking Terminal (Largest in the World)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bank/bg.jpg

OMFG!!!!! :bash: I envy the Thais but im Happy for their success...hope we get our turn soon...

For a more DROOOOOOLING experience click here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=216619&page=1&pp=20)

dancethingy

October 16th, 2005, 04:53 PM

Never lose hope, our day shall come damn it. Don't forget, they sent their students to study in Philippine schools and they still do. If they can do it, then we can to.

I think we can do something bigger with DMIA. DAMN IT, we have to be ambitious with DMIA. Think Big, Dream Big, Make no small plans damn it. No small plans.

kiretoce

October 16th, 2005, 05:50 PM

Put up or shut up, NAIA bidders told
By Gil C. Cabacungan Jr. Inquirer News Service Oct 15, 2005

PRESIDENT MACAPAGAL-ARROYO wants businessmen Lucio Tan, Emilio Yap and Cheng Yong to stop issuing press releases and instead make concrete proposals to the government if they are really serious about running the mothballed Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3.

This is the message Trade and Industry Secretary Peter Favila said the President relayed to him during a private meeting with leaders of the country’s largest business groups shortly after she opened the 31st Philippine Business Conference last Thursday.

None of the three tycoons were present during the 15-minute meeting but other businessmen there urged the President to open NAIA T3 which they said would show investors her government could get things done if it wanted to, according to Favila.

The President replied that even if she wanted to, her government could not begin evaluating any offers simply because none has been made, said Favila. He complained that Tan’s Asia’s Emerging Dragon Corp. and Philippine International Air Terminals Co. (PIATCo) of Yap-and-Cheng tandem have not gone beyond issuing press releases.

“(The President) has asked me and (Transportation and Communication) Secretary Leandro Mendoza to sit down and start negotiations, but how can we do that when we don’t have anything concrete to work on? They say they have bought out this partner or they have money to pay us but all of these are in their press releases. The government does not work that way,” Favila said.

Favila and Mendoza are part of the presidential task force assigned to firm up the opening of NAIA T3. Other members are Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita, Finance Secretary Margarito Teves, and presidential legal adviser Merceditas Gutierrez.

The government took over the NAIA T3 facility in December 2004 after the Supreme Court voided the contract of its developer, Piatco, which was originally a partnership between the Cheng family and foreign investors led by Fraport AG of Germany until Yap recently claimed having bought out the foreign shareholders.

Yap’s Manila Hotel is offering to withdraw all cases it lodged against the government in exchange for regaining control of the terminal Piatco built.

mysaong03

October 17th, 2005, 12:03 AM

^^ i also wana congratulate the thais & wish them all the very best on their ultramodern airport... btw, is it also a BOT sorta project in thailand? & who will manage its operations? :)

marites4

October 17th, 2005, 02:28 AM

bustero

October 17th, 2005, 04:04 AM

hi bustero,
if PR (PAL ?) makes up nearly half of all international Passengers, that would mean PAL transports aprox. 5 million international passengers, is that true ? then how many people do they fly around domestically ? how many passengers does PAL fly alltogether anyway ? can´t find any statistics on that anywhere.....
I'll look around for this. I remember this staitistic from articles a while back when they were still building the airport and why it wouldn't work without PR.

pau_p1

October 17th, 2005, 05:37 AM

@olineil... when you say it is the Largest in the World... do you mean that it is larger than HongKong's airport?... which I known to be the largest....

olineil

October 17th, 2005, 05:43 AM

@olineil... when you say it is the Largest in the World... do you mean that it is larger than HongKong's airport?... which I known to be the largest....

Yep soon to be the largest upon openning...this is as per discussed under the Thai Airport forum. It will also house the Tallest Control tower in the world. You can try n troll the Thread to find out more.

On Initial operation upon oppening it can handle 40,000,000 passengers/annum. Upon full operation in the comming years it will handle 100,000,000 passengers/annum. Geezzz...

The actual Passenger Terminal size in floor area is 564,000 sqm (Bigger than SM Mall of Asia), this is acording to CHAD of thais forums. I believe he is connected with the construction company coz he always posts this awesome insider pics of the terminal.

marites4

October 17th, 2005, 08:28 AM

oo nga , nabasa ko ata na 3 billion dollars daw ang halaga nung airport. nakakamangha pero sa halip na maiinget tayo gamiten nalang nating inspiration ito na kung kaya nila mas kaya pa naten.

xDieselJockx

October 17th, 2005, 10:41 AM

thomasian

October 17th, 2005, 11:39 AM

Boost to Real Estate Industry Seen with NAIA 3 Settlement
Manila Bulletin - 9/20/05

The country’s real estate industry will dramatically
be boosted by the Manila Hotel
Corp.’s acquisition of the shares of
Fraport, SB Airport Investment Inc. and
Sojitz Corp. of Japan in the Philippine International
Airport Terminals Co. which
built the NAIA Terminal 3, and signal the
possible turnaround of the national
economy. The buyout of Manila Hotel of
the foreign company’s 30% share will surely
mobilize real estate industries and conjure
hope in turning the engines of growth and
economic development. The growth of the
real estate industry in the country has automatically
brought new growth levels to
allied sectors such as the infrastructure,
housing and construction, which form a
major plank of the economy.

SKYLINEPIGEON

October 17th, 2005, 12:03 PM

oo nga , nabasa ko ata na 3 billion dollars daw ang halaga nung airport. nakakamangha pero sa halip na maiinget tayo gamiten nalang nating inspiration ito na kung kaya nila mas kaya pa naten.

thailand is way ahead of the phils in terms of tourists arrivals, yong airport nila is currently handling more than 30m passengers (one of the biggest in the world ha) annually and growing pa eh ang pinas wla pa ata 10m so its only logical that they build a bigger and much better airport , hindi naman tayo pwedeng gumawa nang ganoon kalaking terminal gaya ng thailand ksi hindi naman gaoon kadaming tao bumibisita sa ating bansa at isa pa their government is better funded compared to ours anyway drating din tayo sa estado ng mga thais kong gusto natin (dmia can be the future), too much politics, corruption at bangayan sa gobyerno is one reason kya yong ekonomiya natin ay hindi umuunsad, tama ba yong wikang pilipino ko hehehehe

pau_p1

October 17th, 2005, 12:09 PM

hmmm... maybe we will have to wait after 2010.. after GMA... maybe by then... the political turmoil will settle down.... sana...

olineil

October 17th, 2005, 12:18 PM

hmmm... maybe we will have to wait after 2010.. after GMA... maybe by then... the political turmoil will settle down.... sana...

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: Kelan ba naman nag-settle-down politika satin? Pahinga maybe but settle down, I doubt it.... :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

marites4

October 17th, 2005, 06:01 PM

thailand is way ahead of the phils in terms of tourists arrivals, yong airport nila is currently handling more than 30m passengers (one of the biggest in the world ha) annually and growing pa eh ang pinas wla pa ata 10m so its only logical that they build a bigger and much better airport , hindi naman tayo pwedeng gumawa nang ganoon kalaking terminal gaya ng thailand ksi hindi naman gaoon kadaming tao bumibisita sa ating bansa at isa pa their government is better funded compared to ours anyway drating din tayo sa estado ng mga thais kong gusto natin (dmia can be the future), too much politics, corruption at bangayan sa gobyerno is one reason kya yong ekonomiya natin ay hindi umuunsad, tama ba yong wikang pilipino ko hehehehe
HIndi naman wikang pilipipino yan eh, wikang taglish. he he he

mysaong03

October 17th, 2005, 08:33 PM

^^ hindi pwede gumawa dahil walang pera, hindi dahil sa kung ano pang dahilan.

xDieselJockx

October 18th, 2005, 01:48 AM

Another form of publicity ? They can't even start handing out the lease contracts to all the airline companies. Looks like they all are just looking around to see who will initiate the first move. It's like waiting for the coming of a Phoenix bird. Oh well, maybe they should just start doing some actions rather than "all talk", you can't just talk the talk you have to walk the walk. That goes from the government and up to those local investors who keeps on saying they want to run the terminal in papers. Looks like Tan and Yap are just doing some mind game of some sort. Whatcha y'all think? Another coup de etat??LOL

Repair work on NAIA 3 by Japanese firm set

By JONATHAN M. HICAP
The Manila Times Reporter

The Manila International Airport Authority is set to implement the work plan for the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3, including the correction of 43 construction defects that were noted when the government took over the facility last year. The repairs will help ensure the terminal’s structural integrity.

Airport General Manager Alfonso Cusi on Monday told The Manila Times that his office is determining the costs of the repairs, which will take four months to finish. Full operation can start within the first quarter of 2006.

"We have to make sure that NAIA 3 is safe and efficient," Cusi said.

The Takenaka Corp. of Japan, which built the terminal, will soon sign with the Philippine government an agreement to complete the construction of the airport facility, according to Cusi.

Cusi said that upon the completion of the repairs, representatives of four reputable American and Philippine agencies will check the airport terminal to see if it is ready for operations.

These are the Air Transportation Office, the US Federal Aviation Administration, the US Transportation Security Administration and the International Civil Aviation Organization.

The approval by the US agencies is needed since American airlines fly to and from the country.

Cusi said he will also invite representatives from the International Air Transport Association, the umbrella organization of airlines around the world, to take a look at the new terminal.

The MIAA has yet to issue the contracts to 29 international airlines that will transfer their offices to NAIA 3.

bustero

October 18th, 2005, 05:37 AM

walang masasaing sa pagiging ingitero, basta bumukas ang airport ok na rin , eh iyon pa lang , eh ... (ehem sorry translation for pareng phil ... you can not make ani or anything from being jelous, as long as our airport opens thats good enough but that alone is seemingly an impossible task ) as can be seen pinoy is such an efficient language :drunk: cheers

richard fischer

October 18th, 2005, 03:11 PM

salamat bustero for your attendance, but please what does pareng mean ?

Louman

October 19th, 2005, 02:56 AM

pare means buddy, so pareng phil means "(my) buddy phil". -ng is an adjetive particle.

richard fischer

October 19th, 2005, 08:26 PM

pare means buddy, so pareng phil means "(my) buddy phil". -ng is an adjetive particle.

thank you louman for your explanations, thank you bustero for my new nickmane !

tigidig14

October 20th, 2005, 03:42 AM

SC revives case vs DoTC, MIAA execs

First posted 05:34am (Mla time) Oct 20, 2005
By Armand N. Nocum
Inquirer News Service

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THE SUPREME Court Wednesday ordered the Office of the Ombudsman to immediately reinvestigate the involvement of two former transportation secretaries, two airport chiefs and others in the allegedly anomalous Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Terminal 3 contract.
In a decision penned by Associate Justice Angelina Sandoval-Guttierrez, the high court directed the Ombudsman to conduct a preliminary investigation anew of the complaint filed Manila International Airport Authority- NAIA Association of Service Operators against the respondents with dispatch.

Named respondents in the graft and plunder case were former secretaries Pantaleon Alvarez and Vicente Rivera Jr. of the Department of Transportation and Communications (DoTC) and former Manila International Airport Authority general managers Antonio Gana and Edgardo Manda.

The high court raised concerns about the claim of MIAA-NAIA Association of Service Operators that the case was earlier dismissed by then Ombudsman Aniano
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Desierto because of alleged “incomplete” and “hastily conducted” preliminary investigation.

Alvarez was charged along with the officers and employees of his firm Wintrack Builders which bagged alleged “juicy” contracts in connection with the NAIA Terminal 3 project; while Rivera was charged for executing the allegedly questionable Amended and Restated Concession Agreement (ARCA).

The ARCA stemmed from a July 12, 1997 agreement between the government and the Philippine International Air Terminals, Co. Inc. (PIATCo) to build the controversial NAIA 3 under a build-operate-transfer (BOT) scheme.

The petitioners elevated the case to the high court after Desierto dismissed the complaint on March 12, 2002, saying there was no evidence to support the charges against the respondents.

But before the court could rule on the case, it issued a decision in 2003 voiding the BOT contract between the government and PIATCo.

The high court said that in “dismissing the complaint of petitioners, the Ombudsman in effect ruled that the (ARCA) and its supplements are valid.”

The high court added that the assailed resolution of the Ombudsman was obviously tainted with grave abuse of discretion.

Thus, the court said it was necessary for the Ombudsman to reinvestigate the criminal acts allegedly committed by the respondents pursuant to the voided PIATCo agreements to determine whether probable cause exists against them.

Other respondents include Diosdado Acob, Reynaldo Roa, Lewelyn Villamor, Jose Gabriel Benedicto, Jose Go, and Elpidio Mendoza, all MIAA officials who allegedly helped Wintrack bag the juicy deals.

Also charged were PIATCo officers and directors Bernd Struck, Vic Cheng Yong, Jefferson Cheng, Jason Cheng, Alfred Johannes, Arthur Vogel, Stephan Bauchspiess, S. Samim Aydin, Hachiman Yokoi, Gil Camacho, Katherin Agnes Arnaldo, Mario Tongson, Marife Opulencia, Mary Antonette Manalo and Ernesto Hernandez.

Likewise charged were Raoul Hiloe, Manfred Reimer, Henry Go, Lilia Cheng, Jean Cheng, Eberhard Mueller, and Karl May -- directors and officers of Philippine Airport and Ground Services -- also in connection with the alleged overbillings of Wintrack.

Many of the respondents are also facing other criminal complaints before the Sandiganbayan.

allin101

October 20th, 2005, 10:24 AM

im here in PR right now and i was really disappointed that the new airport is still not in operational. people are just talking and still no action being done. what a shame.

SKYLINEPIGEON

October 20th, 2005, 10:49 AM

heres another disappointing news, i hope the SC will trash this one

SC asked to stop gov't from forging new deal over NAIA-3

THE ASIA'S Emerging Dragon Corporation (AEDC) asked the Supreme Court to stop the government from entering into another contract for the operation of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3 (NAIA-3), according to a copy of its petition for mandamus and prohibition, which company lawyers filed Thursday. AEDC lawyers, led by Perfecto Yasay Jr., told the high court that the AEDC had the exclusive right to operate NAIA-3.

"The respondents [Arroyo government] are bound by statutory duty to protect AEDC as a result of the Supreme Court's nullification of the awarding of the NAIA-3 project to PIATCo [Philippine International Air Terminals Co.]. The respondents do not have the authority to take over the NAIA-3 to the exclusion of the AEDC or to award the project to third parties," Yasay said.

Yasay said the AEDC's proposal to build, operate and transfer (BOT) the NAIA-3 should had been evaluated and accepted on a negotiated basis not on a public bidding.
said the nullification of the PIATCo contract was "the automatic entitlement of the AEDC to the formal award and formalization and execution by the government and AEDC of the draft concession agreement for the operation of the NAIA-3 project."

"There was no valid reason for the government to operate the NAIA-3 in the face of AEDC's persistence to provide funds for the completion of the terminal and payment for just compensation the government owed to PIATCo," Yasay said.

"The government is not allowed under the BOT Law to take over the NAIA-3 and compete with or ease out AEDC in the operation and maintenance of the terminal," Yasay said.

The government has announced that it will operate are NAIA-3 in December.

Among the major shareholders of AEDC are taipans Lucio Tan, John Gokongwei, Andrew Gotianum, Henry Sy Sr., George Ty, and Alfonso Yuchengco.

Established during President Fidel Ramos’ administration, AEDC submitted an unsolicited offer then to put up and operate NAIA 3 for 350 million dollars.

But when the project was subjected to a Swiss challenge, the Ramos administration said Philippine International
Air Terminals Co. Inc. (PIATCo) had submitted a better offer.

But the Supreme Court nullified the PIATCo contract in 2003 because it was "flawed."

AEDC has offered to pay the government 300 million dollars to operate NAIA 3. Business tycoon Emilio Yap's Manila Hotel Corp., now the majority owner of PIATCo, had also asked the Arroyo administration to let it run the mothballed Terminal 3.

Manila Hotel is buying Fraport AG's 61 percent stake in PIATCo for 200 million dollars. It had acquired the combined 20 percent interests of Sojitz Corp. and SB Airport Investment Corp. in PIATCo for 30 million dollars.

Fraport, the German investor in the construction of the NAIA-Terminal 3, was a partner of PIATCo.

Fraport has sought World Bank arbitration.

richard fischer

October 20th, 2005, 08:37 PM

slowly i simply do not care anymore. just develope DMIA, it will probably be in service before NAIA T3 will ever appear on the world map of big airport terminals.

ThisFire

October 21st, 2005, 05:31 AM

It's amazing! Just got word that they've decided to open the NAIA 3 very shortly!!! Words cannot express the joy that is felt within our....................
oh sorry, they've decided to delay it again.

:)

cruizer333444

October 21st, 2005, 09:21 AM

(gma) should have just let fraport and piatco operate t-3. in the frist place.it was a b,o.t scheme anyway. t-3 would be in full operation today. now lucio tan and manila hotel is bidding to operate the terminal with the same scheme because the gov't got no funds to pay the germans. (gma) just made it more complicated because she taught her gov't could pull a fast one on the germans. wish she could just say sorry to the germans and let them operate the terminal like it was originally plan. sometimes i feel this gloria will pull a ferdinand marcos? just in case she does i have all the confidence that we the masses will never let that happen again.

cruizer333444

October 21st, 2005, 09:26 AM

nice to see you all!!! hope you peeps still remember me? nice to be back

renell

October 21st, 2005, 09:39 AM

it's more complicated than that, though I wish it were as easy as that and opened asap :no:

kiretoce

October 21st, 2005, 01:47 PM

nice to see you all!!! hope you peeps still remember me? nice to be back

Still do....although vaguely now....welcome back anyway! :colgate:

kiretoce

October 21st, 2005, 03:03 PM

Battle of ethnic Chinese tycoons for NAIA 3 goes to SC
By Armand N. Nocum Inquirer News Service Oct 21, 2005

THE BATTLE of the Filipino-Chinese tycoons over the Ninoy Aquino International Airport's Terminal 3 (NAIA 3) has reached the Supreme Court, with the Asia's Emerging Dragon Corp. (AEDC) asking the high court to order the government to award to it the contract to operate the mothballed facility.

AEDC, which groups six of the country's top ethnic Chinese tycoons or taipans, asked the high court to stop the government from "negotiating, re-bidding, awarding or entering into a concession contract with any third parties" for the operation of the terminal.

AEDC lawyers said the prohibition must cover the Philippine International Air Terminals Co. (PIATCo), which won the bidding to construct the controversial terminal.

In May 2003, the tribunal nullified the $650-million contract between the government and PIATCo for the NAIA 3, on the ground that it was grossly disadvantageous to the government.

The government expropriated the facility last December but has been unable to operate it because of a number of lawsuits. One of these is the arbitration case filed before the World Bank's International Center for Settlement of Investment Disputes by PIATCo's German-based partner, Fraport, which is seeking to be reimbursed its $425 million investment in NAIA 3.

Recently, however, Fraport agreed to sell its PIATCo stake for $200 million to a consortium headed by Chinese-Filipino tycoon Emilio Yap, the owner of the Manila Hotel.

This development prompted AEDC, the original proponent of the NAIA 3 project before it was awarded to PIATCo, to revive its interest in the terminal project.

Lawyer Perfecto Yasay, who led the team of AEDC lawyers that petitioned the high court, said the AEDC, "being the recognized and unchallenged original proponent, has the exclusive, clear and vested statutory right to the award" of the NAIA 3 project.

Established in 1993, AEDC was originally composed of ethnic Chinese tycoons John Gokongwei, Andrew Gotianun, Henry Sy Sr., George Sy, Alfonso Yuchengco and Lucio Tan. Tan is said to be the only one left in the consortium now.

In the petition, AEDC argued that the Supreme Court ruling against PIATCo "restored petitioner AEDC to its preferred status as the unchallenged original proponent" of the NAIA 3 project.

Citing of RA 6957, as amended by RA 771, or the Build-Operate-Transfer Law, it said that AEDC was automatically entitled to the award of the NAIA 3 project as a matter of "clear statutory right."

Yasay said in a press briefing that the AEDC's legal move would not lead to a further delay of the airport's opening.

sedna

October 22nd, 2005, 12:44 AM

Friday October 21, 2:22 PM

Lucio Tan Firm Asks SC to Stop Naia-Iii Opening in Philippines

A company owned by tycoon Lucio Tan filed on Thursday a petition before the Supreme Court (SC) to stop the opening of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Centennial Terminal III (NAIA-III).

The Asia Emerging Dragon Corp. (AEDC) through its lead counsel Perfecto Yasay Jr. filed the petition for mandamus and prohibition and application for a temporary restraining order (TRO), opposing the opening of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Centennial Terminal III (NAIA-III).

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Named respondents were Transportation and Communication Secretary Leandro Mendoza and the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) General Manager Alfonso Cusi.

In a press conference, Yasay said the petition is aimed at stopping the government from negotiating, re-bidding, awarding or entering into concession contract with any third parties, including the Philippine International Air Terminals Co., (PIATCO) from the operation of the NAIA-III.

In their petition, Yasay told the SC that AEDC has the exclusive, clear and vested statutory right to the award of the NAIA-III project because they are the recognized and unchallenged original proponent of the said project.

He said that the respondents were bound by statutory duty to protect AEDC as a result of the SC's nullification of the award of the NAIA-III project to the PIATCO in 2003.

The respondents do not have authority to take over the NAIA-III "to exclusion of the AEDC or to award the project to third parties," Yasay added.

The AEDC counsel explained that the AEDC's unsolicited proposal to build, operate and transfer (BOT) the NAIA-III should have been evaluated and accepted on a negotiated basis and not through public under the build operate transfer (BOT) law and its implementing rules and regulations (IRR).

The government is not allowed under the BOT Law to take over the NAIA-III and ease out AEDC on the operation and maintenance of the terminal, Yasay contended.

Upon the request of government, during the time of President Fidel V. Ramos, AEDC submitted an unsolicited proposal on Oct. 5, 1994 which was accepted by the DOTC and approved by the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) on Feb. 13, 1996.

As required by the BOT Law, the AEDC proposal was subjected to a "Swiss Challenge" in which PIATCO won.

The award to PIATCO, however, was nullified by the SC.

Yasay said that with the failure of the "Swiss Challenge" to produce a better offer the respondents have become duty-bound by operation of law to recognize and give effect and protection of said right to the AEDC.

He asserted that the legal consequence of nullification of the PIATCO award, "is the automatic entitlement of the AEDC to the formal award and formalization and execution by the government and AEDC of the draft concession agreement for the operation of the NAIA-III project."

(PNA) $

tigidig14

October 22nd, 2005, 06:50 AM

^such a self centered taiwanese, just wanna monopolize the airtraffic of pnas

dancethingy

October 22nd, 2005, 08:35 AM

BASTARD. I've always detested that evil, vile creature.

marites4

October 22nd, 2005, 08:36 AM

Lucio tan has always been a monopolistic crony.

SKYLINEPIGEON

October 22nd, 2005, 09:24 PM

xXx carlos xXx

October 22nd, 2005, 09:43 PM

now what? another delay for the opening? i ve been expecting to land there when i go home this december.... aarrrrgggghhh... what the hell is the wrong with lucio tan...

hey guys... im new here.... been interested with this forum and decided to post some...

xDieselJockx

October 22nd, 2005, 11:16 PM

wht??? two years after the sc voided the contract now he comes out and say hey i will pay 300 million usd and give me the almost complete terminal and ill operate it, it think its jst not fair, hes only doing it now because hes afraid that the terminal may come to mr yaps hands his business nemesis

yeah, considering in the past months that he almost always turned down MIAA ( was it cusi? or just the RP Gov't offc) offer to have PAL international be transfered to T3. You can tell the pattern there with him ( Tan) and Yasay corraborating in their petition with the SC. Tan must have been trying to bribe or promise Yasay something in the future. Bastards...

tigidig14

October 22nd, 2005, 11:34 PM

xDieselJockx

October 22nd, 2005, 11:50 PM

Tan start shoving his face to the topic when he found out that fraport sold big part of its share to Yap. Hes been strategizing it for his part that it would be easier for the terminal to acquire when he knows YAP holds the key for piatco and all, and the case will be drop against the international court, hence a green signal to butt-in of what he knows a big money for his company.
well yeah, i'm sure Yasay mde a point to Tan on how much money Tan can make then possibly Yasay also (in return), I think Yasay egged him into realizing that Yap will have an edge over him (Tan) but that was just my assumption.

tigidig14

October 23rd, 2005, 11:02 PM

the guy knows

xXx carlos xXx

October 24th, 2005, 03:16 AM

Power outage makes NAIA risky for pilots

By ANJO PEREZ and LOUIE PEREZ

Night flying at the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) has become unsafe following a massive power outage at the NAIA Terminal 3 that left its obstruction lights out of order.

The obstruction lights are red-colored lights on top of buildings at the NAIA used to visually guide aircraft pilots of its proximity.

Since the power outage at the NAIA Terminal 3 last Saturday, all of its lights have become inoperable, and as a result, NAIA 3 is virtually invisible to pilots especially at night.

An engineering team from the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) is working round-the-clock to detect the cause of the power outage.

The MIAA said the power outage might be due to problems in the underground cables between the NAIA Terminal 3 power substation and Meralco.

A team from NAIA Terminal 3 building contractor Takenaka and its electrical sub-contractor Dai-Dan are working with airport engineers to detect and fix the problem.

Meanwhile, the MIAA has belied reports that the power outage was due to their non-payment of its Manila Electric Company (Meralco) electric bills for the NAIA Terminal 3.

According to the MIAA, Meralco has yet to formally transfer the NAIA Terminal 3 account from its builder, the Philippine International Air Terminal Co., to the MIAA.

tigidig14

October 24th, 2005, 03:53 AM

^sad, sini-save yata magagalit daw si Tan

bustero

October 24th, 2005, 09:26 AM

welcome xxxcarlo.

I heard the opening date is still firm and that LT and Don Yap will slug it out to determine who will own it in the long run. In the meantime gma is deadset on the opening...DAW!

tigidig, manlilibre ka ba kung nanalo ang putuing medyas!

tigidig14

October 24th, 2005, 09:39 AM

^dalwa na lang, ikaw pa syempre

Francis20

October 24th, 2005, 09:48 AM

Final na ba yung opening date na March 2006. Hope this will now push thru.

tigidig14

October 24th, 2005, 10:05 AM

^they better be, i already adjusted the month im going home. it was supposed to be december but since theyre not opening it yet, i decided to move it in july :lol:

dancethingy

October 24th, 2005, 10:51 AM

xXx Carlos, welcome to the forum :)

normandb

October 24th, 2005, 11:14 AM

^they better be, i already adjusted the month im going home. it was supposed to be december but since theyre not opening it yet, i decided to move it in july :lol:

what if NAIA3 will never open? youll just have to wait for DMIA to finish before you go home and that will be in 2020 :)

xDieselJockx

October 24th, 2005, 11:29 AM

awwww, NAIA 1 isn't so bad, i've seen something worse than it..LOL

normandb

October 24th, 2005, 12:59 PM

awwww, NAIA 1 isn't so bad, i've seen something worse than it..LOL

it is not really that bad but when we compare it to our neighbors like Bangkok, KL, Singapore, HongKong, Taipei and Jakarta it it way below these airports.

xDieselJockx

October 25th, 2005, 03:24 AM

it is not really that bad but when we compare it to our neighbors like Bangkok, KL, Singapore, HongKong, Taipei and Jakarta it it way below these airports.

awww, don't compare, the Philippine economy is still not that advanced yet, it's like owning a Lexus or a mercedes benz parked in an old beat up house. The service there should be upgraded for now instead, it's kind of hard to do it with an increasing number of passenger activities in NAIA. If you are to ask me, the old NAIA 1 external structure looks good to me it is unique in itself, the interior may probably need some remodelling, add more lighting and if they can try to check the a/c system. I'm not saying they shouldn't open T3 anymore, Manila does need that airport. I really don't care about how the building was designed actually, but the interior? I think it looks awesome.

ryanr

October 25th, 2005, 03:25 AM

awwww, NAIA 1 isn't so bad, i've seen something worse than it..LOL

Yeah, Paris' terminal 1 is worse. I was actually quite happy for NAIA 1 when i landed in Paris:D

tigidig14

October 25th, 2005, 04:59 AM

awww, don't compare, I'm not saying they shouldn't open T3 anymore, Manila does need that airport. I really don't care about how the building was designed actually, but the interior? I think it looks awesome.

yeah, the loftic wooden ceiling

c0kelitr0

October 25th, 2005, 05:03 AM

you're not going home til july tigidig? aww too bad, i was thinking of spending christmas with you :rofl:

tigidig14

October 25th, 2005, 05:19 AM

^open the airport this december, then i let you touch my callus hand ;)

dancethingy

October 25th, 2005, 08:17 AM

@ Tigidig, Ugh, A White Sox fan. Such a disgrace!
Anyways congratulations on the world series berth. I do believe they will win, but still won't be as lovable as my Cubbies.

tigidig14

October 25th, 2005, 08:49 AM

^they did horrible this year, unfortunately. anyway, lamang na tayo ng dal'wa sa world series. tommorow is the third game in houston. sabi ni mayor daley: its okay that they won twice but he wished that they were the cubbies, something like that. i meant whatta support, right, such an ass and disrespect.

bustero

October 25th, 2005, 09:09 AM

I can't believe Daley said that! labo naman. Nasa WS na nga ater so long. Pambihira.

stephencua

October 25th, 2005, 11:27 AM

taken from philstar.com.. .

AEDC amenable to government management of NAIA-3, but…
By Sandy Araneta
The Philippine Star 10/25/2005

A company vying for control of Ninoy Aquino International Airport’s new Terminal 3 (NAIA-3) is amenable to have the government operate the new facility as long as it doesn’t bid out the terminal to other parties.

Asia’s Emerging Dragon Corp. (AEDC), owned by beer and tobacco magnate Lucio Tan, may agree to such an arrangement as long as it is temporary and the company has control of the facility.

"We have no objections to the takeover by the government, only the bidding out. They can open and operate the terminal, that is okay. But they could not bid it out. If they do, we will have to enforce what we are seeking and that is a temporary restraining order," AEDC lawyer Perfecto Yasay told reporters in an interview.

AEDC claims it has the legal right to operate the terminal after the Supreme Court in 2003 nullified the contract of Philippine International Air Terminals Co. Inc. (Piatco) for NAIA-3.

Last week, AEDC asked the Supreme Court to stop the government from entering into any contract with Piatco, which built the terminal and is currently locked in a legal dispute with the government for control over the facility.

AEDC said it made an unsolicited proposal to build the terminal in 1994 following a government invitation and was awarded the contract in 1996.

However, AEDC lost the contract to Piatco when the consortium made a better offer. AEDC argued that it now has legal rights over the terminal since Piatco’s contract was nullified by the court due to anomalies.

"Pending due consideration of the above-captioned petitioner and there being no other plain, speedy and adequate remedy in the ordinary course of law, petitioner AEDC is entitled, as a matter of extreme urgency, to the issuance of a temporary restraining order restraining or enjoining respondents from negotiating, re-bidding, awarding or otherwise entering into any concession with Piatco and other third parties" for the operation of the terminal, the company stated in its petition.

AEDC said the government, represented by the Department of Transportation and Communications and the Manila International Airport Authority, "(does) not have authority to take over the NAIA-3 to the exclusion of the AEDC or to award the project to third parties."

Instead, the government has refused to recognize the AEDC as the "legitimate and unchallenged original proponent" of the project.

"Instead, the DOTC announced that it would take over the unfinished airport facility and bid out the operation thereof to another entity, in flagrant violation and disregard of the exclusive, clear and vested statutory right of petitioner AEDC under the build-operate-transfer law," the company stated.

AEDC had earlier offered $300 million for the right to operate the new terminal.

The new airport terminal was completed in 2002 but its opening was delayed by a squabble between Piatco and its German partner Fraport AG.

The terminal was delayed further in 2003 when President Arroyo revoked Piatco’s contract with the government on the grounds that certain terms were illegally renegotiated by her deposed predecessor Joseph Estrada in 1998.

Last December, the government seized the terminal from Piatco following the Supreme Court order that nullified Piatco’s contract. The consortium is currently contesting the seizure.

xDieselJockx

October 25th, 2005, 03:26 PM

Man, that Yasay and L.Tan's claim for NAIA 3 just sound fishy to me. I've got the feeling that they would be putting their feet in their mouths. It does not sound legit to me. I don't know what you guys think or feel about this. It's like all of a sudden, AEDC has all the right to claim T3 even after they lost that bid in the past.

dancethingy

October 25th, 2005, 07:19 PM

These Tycoons care only about one thing, GETTING RICHER. Bastards. The issue with them is who has the upperhand in business, nothing pertaining to national pride.

@ Tigs, Oh Daley, our benevolent and benign dictator. He's the BEST mayor ever!

xXx carlos xXx

October 27th, 2005, 02:08 AM

just want to know... when will naia 3 open? i really wish to land there... especially northwest airlines already has a place in t3.
hehehe....:)

ryanr

October 27th, 2005, 02:12 AM

wish we knew....wish we knew...:no:

bustero

October 27th, 2005, 04:27 AM

everyone here should be very negative so that we all get pleasantly surprised , haha

the funny thing is even if it's open, if there will be no electricty like the other day , well... that says it all

richard fischer

October 27th, 2005, 04:47 PM

why don´t they convert T3 into the casino and refurnish T1 to updated international standards instead......

ryanr

October 28th, 2005, 12:19 AM

Manila's new air terminal won't open this year
First posted 04:17am (Mla time) Oct 28, 2005
Inquirer News Service

TERMINAL 3 of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) is impossible to open this year, given that the peak season for travel has started and none of the airlines will consider transferring their operations at this time, Transportation and Communication Secretary Leandro Mendoza said.

More importantly, the NAIA 3 is not ready for operations, he said.

“A December opening is already out of the question,” Mendoza said.

The NAIA 3’s opening depends on “a lot of factors,” and after all issues had been addressed full operations might be expected "by the first quarter” of 2006, he said.

The administration of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had originally planned to open the terminal on June 21, 2005, after it took it over in December 2004.

The opening was moved to December when the government could not close a deal with Takenaka Corp., after supposedly reaching an agreement in principle last June.

The problem escalated when business magnate Emilio Yap’s Manila Hotel Corp. offered in August to buy 60 percent of the NAIA 3's former contractor, Philippine International Air Terminal Co., from German firm Fraport AG.

Tobacco tycoon Lucio Tan’s Asia’s Emerging Dragon Corp. (AEDC) has since claimed to have the first crack in operating NAIA 3, being the original proponent of the airport project in 1996.

AEDC has asked the Supreme Court to compel the government to honor a 1996 agreement.

Mendoza said the claims being made by AEDC and Manila Hotel Corp. were actually helping the government fast-track the opening of the airport.

The government will operate the airport terminal initially, Mendoza said. “What happens next is something that the court will have to decide,” he said.

kiretoce

October 28th, 2005, 12:22 AM

Why am I not surprised! :dunno: So, shall we take another deep breath again and hold it until it opens up by the end of 2006? :lol:

ryanr

October 28th, 2005, 12:25 AM

hahaha...and here we are waiting for an article that will have the word "will" instead of "wont"

tigidig14

October 28th, 2005, 01:24 AM

^itll be another Bataan Nuclear Plant. it cant be opened

xDieselJockx

October 28th, 2005, 01:38 AM

marites4

October 28th, 2005, 02:53 AM

I think a lot of people will breathe a big sigh of relief when that Naia 3 actually opens. :puke:

ThisFire

October 28th, 2005, 04:18 AM

I think a lot of people will breathe a big sigh of relief when that Naia 3 actually opens. :puke:

i think the sighs have been used up

renell

October 28th, 2005, 09:16 AM

hahaha we would have died of suffocation after years of holding our breaths. when it opens, many will scream FINALLY. but gee, we just keep on suffering

bustero

October 28th, 2005, 10:12 AM

Why was the reason behind mothballing that Nuclear Power Plant anyway? Was it because of the UN or US cautioning the Philipppines from possible development of nuclear weapon or was it the same reason as to NAIA 3?
Apparently the developer Bataan nuclear plant was some german company called Frankfurt Power terminal or Fraport with some local good old boys Philippine Int. Atom Company or Piatco.

richard fischer

October 28th, 2005, 11:49 AM

your kidding, another german project that went up in smoke ?

_zner_

October 28th, 2005, 12:02 PM

2006....2007....2008.................................2020...
oh come on... T1 and T2 is rusting...

xDieselJockx

October 28th, 2005, 04:23 PM

Apparently the developer Bataan nuclear plant was some german company called Frankfurt Power terminal or Fraport with some local good old boys Philippine Int. Atom Company or Piatco.

Oh wow, there is some sort of a history there then ha? Not a good sign at all.

tigidig14

October 28th, 2005, 04:25 PM

Apparently the developer Bataan nuclear plant was some german company called Frankfurt Power terminal or Fraport with some local good old boys Philippine Int. Atom Company or Piatco.

i thought it was White Westinghouse, are you pulling our legs

xDieselJockx

October 28th, 2005, 04:28 PM

i thought it was White Westinghouse, are you pulling our legs
Okay which one is which??? but I've got feeling tigi is correct, i know white westinghouse does that or used to build those nuc power plants..

kiretoce

October 28th, 2005, 05:44 PM

Not that it matters since T3 is still in limbo....

================================================================

Gulf Air looks forward to early opening of NAIA 3

Bahrain-based Gulf Air has welcomed the planned opening of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Terminal 3, saying this will boost travel and tourism.

Roberto Hukom, Gulf Air country manager, said "we and the other airlines are looking forward to the opening of the Terminal 3. The world-class facilities and infrastructure of the new airport would make airline operations on the ground more efficient and productive."

The NAIA Terminal 3 is scheduled for soft opening in December this year. "Just like the other airlines, we are also excited about this event," he said.

Hukom said Gulf Air, which is owned by Bahrain and Oman, not Saudi Arabia as some published reports said, did not declare that it plans to increase its flight frequencies to the Philippines by 300 percent.

He said they are hoping to increase their flight frequencies to help boost inbound and outbound tourism and trade, but not by this percentage.

"We will be opening new flights to Dublin, Ireland and Johannesburg, South Africa this December to provide services to these cities directly from our hub," he said.

He also clarified that there is no air services panel meeting discussing the Gulf Air issues.

"In our own way, we are keen on helping the country and the economy. As evidence, we have interest in working with the flag carrier, the Department of Tourism and the Philippine Tourism Authority. As a matter of fact, in our destinations, the airline and travel and tour operators will package the entire Philippines as a tourist destination," Hukom said.

At present, Gulf Air flies to and from Manila nine times weekly. Its extensive network covers almost 50 cities in 30 countries. It has been adjudged one of the best airlines in the world with many awards to its credit.

kiretoce

October 28th, 2005, 05:45 PM

Overseas entertainment industry joins public clamor for NAIA 3 opening
By ROSS STA. CRUZ

The Philippines overseas entertainment industry yesterday joined the snowballing public and private clamor for the opening of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3 (NAIA 3) as it lauded the Manila Hotel Group for its buyout of the stake of German firm Fraport in the terminal’s developer Philippines International Air Terminal Corp. (PIATCo).

Industry stakeholders, led by the Philippines Association of Performing Artists (APAP), Federation of Entertainment Talents/Managers of the Philippines (FETMOP), and the Philippines Overseas Entertainment Industry Foundation (POEI Foundation), said NAIA 3’s opening will prevent hundreds of millions of dollars sank by Filipinos and foreign investors in the terminal facility from going to waste.

"We need to operate NAIA 3 to prevent it from rotting away," said APAP President Maureen Advincula. "Also, its opening would benefit our overseas workers in terms of the world-class services the NAIA 3 could offer our outgoing and returning migrant workers."

Advincula also said that the Manila Hotel Group’s involvement in NAIA 3 operation "is a guarantee of safety to the air traveling public as this will ensure that the new air terminal will be efficiently managed like the historic hotel itself."

The POEI and FETMOP, through their president, Willie Espiritu, said the modernity of NAIA 3 facilities will help attract more foreign tourists and develop the country’s tourism industry.

"The Ninoy Aquino International Airport terminal is already an antique," Espiritu said. "By operating the NAIA 3, we would be in the league of developed countries because the new airport facility can compare with the international sensation Haneda Airport in Japan."

tigidig14

October 28th, 2005, 05:55 PM

xDieselJockx

October 28th, 2005, 05:55 PM

I've got a feeling that NAIA 3 might be open atleast early or middle of next year. I don't know, it's just a gut feeling.

tigidig14

October 28th, 2005, 05:57 PM

^yung creatine mo lang yan sa milkshake

richard fischer

October 29th, 2005, 01:12 AM

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/tigidig14/pnas3.jpg
just wana post the pics, it plays a mind trick

what pics ? only saw one here. but what a shot ! great ! any more ?

bustero

October 29th, 2005, 04:14 AM

hmmm strange livery for my taste , nice plane though

tigidig14

October 29th, 2005, 04:47 AM

what pics ? only saw one here. but what a shot ! great ! any more ?

richard, im just reffering about the gulf airlplane that it plays a mind trick. it seems like two planes but its only one that's because the front color of the plane camouflage with the naia's facade or background. sorry, i only have this, unfortunately. the rest are just bunch of my big bone cousins walking through the corridor.

ThisFire

October 29th, 2005, 05:35 AM

It looks like there's two or three planes all lined up in that picture. :)

richard fischer

October 29th, 2005, 09:03 AM

richard, im just reffering about the gulf airlplane that it plays a mind trick. it seems like two planes but its only one that's because the front color of the plane camouflage with the naia's facade or background. sorry, i only have this, unfortunately. the rest are just bunch of my big bone cousins walking through the corridor.

i understood your intentions tigidig. was quite interesting and funny. was just wondering if there are any more pics. you guys know me by now, just crazy about planes zooming around the 7107 islands.....

SKYLINEPIGEON

October 29th, 2005, 10:49 AM

Manila's Terminal 3 won't open this year

TERMINAL 3 of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) is impossible to open this year, given that the peak season for travel has started and none of the airlines will consider transferring their operations at this time, Transportation and Communication Secretary Leandro Mendoza said.

More importantly, the NAIA 3 is not ready for operations, he said.

"A December opening is already out of the question," Mendoza said.
The NAIA 3's opening depends on "a lot of factors," and after all issues had been addressed full operations might be expected "by the first quarter" of 2006, he said.

The administration of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo had originally planned to open the terminal on June 21, 2005, after it took it over in December 2004.

The opening was moved to December when the government could not close a deal with Takenaka Corp., after supposedly reaching an agreement in principle last June.

The problem escalated when business magnate Emilio Yap's Manila Hotel Corp. offered in August to buy 60 percent of the NAIA 3's former contractor, Philippine International Air Terminal Co., from German firm Fraport AG.

Tobacco tycoon Lucio Tan's Asia's Emerging Dragon Corp. (AEDC) has since claimed to have the first crack in operating NAIA 3, being the original proponent of the airport project in 1996.

AEDC has asked the Supreme Court to compel the government to honor a 1996 agreement.

Mendoza said the claims being made by AEDC and Manila Hotel Corp. were actually helping the government fast-track the opening of the airport.

The government will operate the airport terminal initially, Mendoza said. "What happens next is something that the court will have to decide," he said.

ThisFire

October 29th, 2005, 07:10 PM

Fast-forward to late 2006 headline: "Manila's Terminal 3 won't open this year"

haha just joking :) here's to T3 opening asap!

tootsjap

November 4th, 2005, 04:16 PM

NAIA 3 is leadership test for Ate Glue
DEMAND AND SUPPLY By Boo Chanco
The Philippine Star 11/04/2005

I was catching up on my reading over the long weekend and I noticed that regional business publications have started to feature the new Bangkok International Airport. From the pictures, it looks big and ultra modern. The question being posed by some of the articles is whether it would eclipse Singapore’s Changi Airport as the region’s principal hub.

Oh well. It looks like our NAIA 3 is obsolete and tiny, even before it is opened. According to Fortune magazine, the Thais spent some $4 billion on the new Bangkok Suvarnabhumi airport. In the case of NAIA 3, they are claiming expenditures of $600 million but about a third of that was in questionable disbursement by a Piatco PR consultant who, like Garci and JocJoc, has since vanished into thin air.

They have some loose ends to tie up, but it seems the airport will open on schedule June next year. Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, a strong leader unlike Ate Glue, has so far delivered on his promises. He promised to deliver the new airport in June and there is no reason to doubt him. In our case, Ate Glue has announced several deadlines to open NAIA 3 and missed them all.

We are now hearing a lot of noises from different quarters about how NAIA 3 would open soon, but even the previously optimistic DOTC Secretary had to admit that they won’t make the promised opening schedule of December this year. They can’t convince Takenaka, the Japanese contractor to work with them in violation of Takenaka’s contract with Piatco. In the meantime, despite the tough talk, the legal problems remain unresolved and worse, the unused terminal building stands as a monument to failure of a direct foreign investment. NAIA 3 should give any arriving investor enough second thoughts about doing business here, and take the next flight out.

If Ate Glue wants a good way of showing the world what she is made of, and a quick way of regaining public confidence, the NAIA 3 is a good place to start. If she is the President she says she is, she should be able to get the parties involved together and hammer out a solution. Since the decision of the Supreme Court is also crucial in this case, she should be able to impress upon the Justices the absolute economic importance of a quick resolution of cases or petitions pending before the high court that are related to the NAIA 3 problem.

We don’t have to wait for the resolution of the arbitration cases filed abroad if a local solution can be worked out. Of course, not everyone would be happy giving up anything in a compromise, but to break the impasse, it is the job of a leader to make all parties accept a compromise anyway. The way it stands, the unused finished structure tells the world that investing here is like playing Russian roulette… you never know how things would go, specially when there is a change in the tenant at Malacanang. The failure to compensate after the government takeover is also seen as scandalous in foreign business circles.

To be fair, the NAIA 3 problem really started with FVR, was made worse by the people of Erap and further aggravated by the people of Ate Glue. A succession of DOTC Secretaries, including a dead one, brought about the Asia embarrassing failure we now see every time we take a flight out of NAIA. FVR’s boys shouldn’t have awarded it to Piatco, in the first place, on the basis of a non-responsive challenge to the proposal of the Asia Emerging Dragons. Just to show something was fishy, DOTC under FVR refused to share details of Piatco’s winning terms with the Dragons. And when the Dragons sued, they got word from the Palace to withdraw the case and to quietly fade away.

Then too, the Germans made a mistake in agreeing to bankroll the undercapitalized Cheng company without first finding out if their local partners can really pull the project off. When I met with them in Frankfurt early this year, I told them they should have looked for track record, which the partners in Emerging Dragons have. The Chengs couldn’t even be considered in the same category as any one of the Chinoy taipans in the Dragons company.

And neither is Emilio Yap of Manila Hotel, despite his pretensions, on the same "taipanic" category. I have asked a number of people but no one can tell me what exactly Mr. Yap bought, given that the Supreme Court declared the Piatco contract null and void. And where could he have generated that kind of money to buy what he said he did? Is Mr. Yap merely leveraging his supposed (imagined?) closeness to authorities who would be needed to sort out the legal mess of the project?

Ate Glue must sit down and settle this mess once and for all. This is one big test of her ability to govern. Let us not even talk now of her signing a peace accord with the communist rebels and the Muslim separatists… or controlling corruption in government… or quickly ending the fiscal deficit. Let us just think of a bite-sized problem of opening one airport terminal, one that’s not even up to regional standards. If she cannot do that now, why should we believe she has what it takes to resolve weightier problems facing the country? Resign na lang!

Actually, if the parties to the problem refuse to see the light and refuse to bend over backwards to resolve this national embarrassment, the President should do something drastic. If I were Ate Glue, I would threaten to declare Clark the new gateway airport to the NCR, something that must eventually be done, anyway. I would call for a bidding to build a new state of the art airport in Clark like the ones on Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Singapore and Hong Kong. If that doesn’t scare the NAIA parties into cooperation, I don’t know what will.

We need NAIA 3 to get going. We have allowed the lawyers and the Chengs to waste more than enough time. Enough is enough, is what a strong leader would say at this point. So, what is she waiting for?

Francis20

November 4th, 2005, 05:12 PM

shame on us again. NAIA 3 is indeed dwarfed by the BKK airport, architecture and all. but we should also accept the fact that Bangkok airport is also marred by delays and anomalies. right? hopefully ours will finally open next year.

Skyblade

November 5th, 2005, 12:59 AM

NAIA 3 is indeed dwarfed by the BKK airport, architecture and all. but we should also accept the fact that Bangkok airport is also marred by delays and anomalies. right?
Also have to remember about how much aircraft and passengers BKK handles on a yearly basis as well.

ryanr

November 5th, 2005, 03:17 AM

sista

November 5th, 2005, 04:52 AM

I really wish that they open NAIA terminal 3. Since when were they planning to open this, the 1800's and it hasn't opened yet? [sarcasm]

_zner_

November 5th, 2005, 04:56 AM

t3 is really over-due... they really have to open it asap... since t2 is outdated especially t1 which is rusting..

Edmundtanso

November 5th, 2005, 05:30 AM

i have to say that bangkok international airport have a better design, designed by murphy/jahn of chicago...

marites4

November 5th, 2005, 05:31 AM

How about we have a field trip to bangkok so we can all examine their new airport. We can get group discounts on tickets.

Edmundtanso

November 5th, 2005, 05:31 AM

holy cow! bangkok's airport is huge!!!!

marites4

November 5th, 2005, 05:36 AM

Can't we build an airport that big and be the trans hub of SE asia like Narita in Japan.

ThisFire

November 5th, 2005, 05:57 AM

Can't we build an airport that big and be the trans hub of SE asia like Narita in Japan.

Anything is possible, but for the Philippines, we're just not that type of environment right now. It's not possible at this time but it's already proven that we can have "mini" versions of huge icon airports with the style and architecture. An example is an airport with a terminal that has yet to open. :)

ryanr

November 5th, 2005, 06:03 AM

Can't we build an airport that big and be the trans hub of SE asia like Narita in Japan.

Thats what Clark is supposed to be...;)

marites4

November 5th, 2005, 06:09 AM

Ok let's cheer for Clark . go Clark I hope it materializes.

sista

November 5th, 2005, 07:01 AM

Anything is possible, but for the Philippines, we're just not that type of environment right now. It's not possible at this time but it's already proven that we can have "mini" versions of huge icon airports with the style and architecture. An example is an airport with a terminal that has yet to open. :)

Yup, I agree with you there. After opening terminal 3, they should renovate terminal 1 and I'm gonna be the happiest kid around here lol

I'm also cheering for clark which seems overdue too lol

Skyblade

November 7th, 2005, 10:22 AM

they should renovate terminal 1 and I'm gonna be the happiest kid around here lol

If that happens, you wouldn't be the only happy one in the neighborhood. :cheers1:

How about we have a field trip to bangkok so we can all examine their new airport. We can get group discounts on tickets.
I'm in Sapporo right now so it should be a bit easier for me to make it if we do have such a trip. :D

bustero

November 7th, 2005, 10:29 AM

do you think if naia 1 is up terminal 1 will still be used or even mothballed? it's so far from naia 3!

richard fischer

November 8th, 2005, 07:56 AM

do you think if naia 1 is up terminal 1 will still be used or even mothballed? it's so far from naia 3!

i don´t believe so. it´s far to big as a terminal that the philippines could afford to shut down the facility. possibly it could be renovated, as we all suggested in past threads, and put to use for charters with that casino-plan, or hotel-wing, or whatever. and then, when T 2 (domestic by then) is on top capacity, it could be used as an annex domestic terminal.

bustero

November 8th, 2005, 08:12 AM

It seems or actually it is quite far, from naia 2 it takes 5 minutes on a car assuming there's no traffic, from Naia 3 10 maybe even 15 minutes. It would get solved if they had some sort of dedicated people mover , even the pathetic ones like on Dallas but I don't think they've got that in mind or have scrapped it. Is the airport terminal design still functional for the amount of land it occupies?

richard fischer

November 8th, 2005, 05:05 PM

well bustero, after all, they still have approx. 10 million passengers traversing that terminal, so i guess it still is functional enough. (it was once built for 7 million)

SKYLINEPIGEON

November 8th, 2005, 05:15 PM

the thing is we should make use of that old facility onced it closed down for productive purposes

richard fischer

November 8th, 2005, 05:26 PM

look at JFK, new york or heathrow, london airports they have older terminals still working very well. just renovate them to todays standards, as long as they are not the main terminals, what´s the problem ? they were built as terminals, and that is what they are good for, so why change the usage of a facility ? a building at the tarmac of an airport is always best utilized as a terminal. especially, when growing passenger numbers are demanding expansion, and no further tarmac space is available. T1 is not so bad. it could be renovated to easily double passenger throughfare. to approx. 15 million. look at frankfurt´s T1, built for 14 million passengers more than 20 years ago. now more than 30 million pass through effectively every year (it continuesly is being renovated and updated). it has a similar Y - shaped design like mainla´s T1.......

kiretoce

November 8th, 2005, 05:39 PM

^^ Good point! It's such a waste to tear down T1 when there are other possible ways to use that building if and when it becomes obsolete for use as a passenger terminal.

marites4

November 8th, 2005, 05:42 PM

yah agree, terminal 1 can look nice if refurbished.

mysaong03

November 8th, 2005, 09:16 PM

^^ hay goodness, i dont know... it seems t3 is an airport thats not goin to be... pilipinas talaga o,o,!!!.... buti nalang this is a catholic country where people still believe in miracles, even in politics!! ;D

SKYLINEPIGEON

November 9th, 2005, 07:26 AM

on historical note it was in t1 tarmac that ninoy was murdered, i dont know if there is still that marker where ninoy exactly fell as he was gunned down by those soldiers, the airport is named after him & t1 is significant for scene of his lifeless body sprawled in the tarmac that finally ignited the edsa 1 revolution

ramvingar

November 9th, 2005, 09:10 AM

what is the capacity of t3?

yeah, T1 kinda looks like the Frankfurt terminal except that it's missing the two elongated concourses on each side. I like the fact that T1 looks like an opera house. It really would look very elegant if renovated and will provide a pleasing contrast to the modern, pristine and almost anticeptic design of newer airport terminals that have been built recently. T3 kinda reminds me of the Munich terminal. I think they even have the same number of aircraft gates.

ramvingar

November 9th, 2005, 09:13 AM

tigidig14

November 9th, 2005, 09:14 AM

800 millions n what the heck is shape hodgepodge

ramvingar

November 9th, 2005, 09:18 AM

^^ it means what it sounds like :) magulo

kiretoce

November 9th, 2005, 01:06 PM

speaking of airport terminals, has anyone noticed that Asian, German and French terminals are symmetrical in layout (at least the ones I've seen)? while American and most other European airports have a more haphazard and hodgepodge layout.

Most US airports expand and add-on to the existing terminal(s), which contributes to the hodgepodge of styles and designs of their terminals. In the case of Asian airports, when they reach their maximum capacity, they'll start looking for a new site on which to build a new and more modern airport. A good example are Japan's and South Korea's airports; Tokyo - Haneda, then Narita, Osaka - Itami, then Kansai, Seoul - Gimpo, then Incheon.

ramvingar

November 9th, 2005, 05:30 PM

^^ don't forget Bangkok's new airport as well as Kuala Lumpur's and Hongkong.

kiretoce

November 9th, 2005, 06:29 PM

^^ Yeah, those too! :okay: And maybe sometime in the-very-distant-future ( :lol: ) Manila - NAIA, then DMIA! ;)

c0kelitr0

November 10th, 2005, 02:51 AM

^^ i'll give it 200 years!

ryanr

November 10th, 2005, 04:31 AM

yeah, T1 kinda looks like the Frankfurt terminal except that it's missing the two elongated concourses on each side. I like the fact that T1 looks like an opera house. It really would look very elegant if renovated and will provide a pleasing contrast to the modern, pristine and almost anticeptic design of newer airport terminals that have been built recently. T3 kinda reminds me of the Munich terminal. I think they even have the same number of aircraft gates.

I agree, NAIA 1 has a great layout and if it were to be renovated it should be a beautiful airport. I wish they did this instead of demolishing it. There should be some kind of petition for this.

bagel

November 10th, 2005, 04:35 AM

It's the Philippines. Petitions didn't do anything for the Jai Alai and Mehan Gardens.

ThisFire

November 10th, 2005, 04:38 AM

^ sadly, true, but hopefully it will end at the Jai Alai and Mehan Gardens fiasco. Don't forget the more recent Arroceros Park drama.

Lili

November 10th, 2005, 05:41 AM

What interested people should do, if they are really interested, is to set up a legal trust fund so that they can file a taxpayers' class action and seek permanent injunction of the demolition of national treasures. Signing petitions is not enough.

ryanr

November 10th, 2005, 06:04 AM

^^ Care to get that started for us, Lili?;) hehehe

xDieselJockx

November 10th, 2005, 07:48 AM

Did they say anything about tearing down T1 if and when T3 opened for operations? I thought they've always say something about using it for a different purpose like maybe a cargo terminal, exhibit or convention center, casino maybe? something....

ThisFire

November 10th, 2005, 07:17 PM

I never would have thought that there would be an idea like tearing down T1 of T3 opened. I just thought they'd now have three terminals and remodel T1.

bustero

November 11th, 2005, 04:15 AM

It it's infrastructure of national imporatance you may not get the tro as they stopped this a while back. I think T1 occupies maybe 50 -60 hectars. And T3 can easily be expanded to go all the way to 20 million without doing much ( from what Piatco people told me) then with the extra land beside it either extend or build a satellite for another 10 million. This would still be cheaper than refurbishing and operating T1 as you'd need to put up the infrastructure to link them. As I understand it the critical flaw in Locsin's design is the inability to expand certain choke points, e.g. very small departure check in lobby, tiny immigration area, full baggage claim (when I first used this airport they were only using 2 carousels, I think they have 5 or 6 now and it's really crowded.) The biggest limitation though Is the area where they sort the baggage, there's no more room for extra machinery, that's why when a big plane arrives it take a long time to claim your baggage. Many people like the Locsin design per se, but as I understand it from professionals the functionality is limited to it's time. Still as Pareng Phil said you can probably stuff another 5 million patient pinoys there haha, maybe if it was purely domestic then no need for huge baggage carousels and immigration. But you'd still need to connect it to Naia3. But if the arrivals really hit like 30 million , perhaps we'd better really start upgrading DMIA and put up a real regionaly competitive facility.

kiretoce

November 11th, 2005, 05:00 PM

Chinese group wants to run new airport
Friday, November 11, 2005

Trade Secretary Peter Favila Thursday said a Chinese consortium is interested in operating the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (Naia) Terminal 3.

Favila refused to identify the persons behind the consortium, saying they "went through a party here who called me, merely asking if I could make myself available."

He said "a local Chinese" who is a "decent businessman" sought a meeting with him to tell him that the group wanted an audience with him to express their interest and suggest steps to get the airport going.

Favila said he told the mediator of the group to try and catch him between the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit in November 17 to 19 in Busan, South Korea and at the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) leaders meeting in December 11 to 15 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

"It's good that it is generating interest. Let's see, they may have a good proposal. Why not?" he said.

Aside from the Chinese consortium, Favila said there are no formal offers for the airport yet.

He said he has already talked to Manila Hotel Corporation (MHC) and the Asian Emerging Dragons Corp. (AEDC), which are vying for the chance to operate the NAIA 3.

Favila said the NAIA Terminal 3 is not likely to operate next month considering that there are still necessary works to be done in order for the facility to pass international airport standards.

OtAkAw

November 11th, 2005, 05:32 PM

^^ i'll give it 200 years!

I'd probably say 2,000,000 years or never.!

The Cebuano Exultor

November 11th, 2005, 05:44 PM

Aren't they going to open this December? :)

kiretoce

November 11th, 2005, 05:47 PM

^^ Most unlikely. :cry:

bulakenyo

November 11th, 2005, 11:25 PM

Arrgggghhh! I'm tired to see all these delays.
Common whoever will operate this terminal!
We've been embarassed enough.
Buksan na kasi. Grrrrr!!!

IsaganiZenze

November 12th, 2005, 11:27 AM

i don't know if this has been posted already, but here is a pic from Airliners.net of the currently moth balled airport:

http://www.airliners.net/photos/photos/1/4/8/957841.jpg

richard fischer

November 12th, 2005, 04:13 PM

i don't know if this has been posted already, but here is a pic from Airliners.net of the currently moth balled airport:

http://www.airliners.net/photos/photos/1/4/8/957841.jpg

not that i know of, A GREAT PICTURE ! a new view ! look at all those turbo props from aboitiz cargo on the right side of the apron. thank you for posting ! any more like these ? from which building was this pic. taken ?

le Reine

November 12th, 2005, 06:15 PM

I've just watched Nat'l Geographic and thy featured Kuala Lumpur's public facilities/infrastuctures and they almost have the ultramodern projects (aiports, towers, roads, trains, etc). I've cried a lot because of envy. Because all we've got here are ultra-primitive structures...

marites4

November 12th, 2005, 06:21 PM

^You think our politicians feel bad when they watch it too?
Because of greasing and peddling it takes twice as long and cost twice as much to open anything of the same scale in other countries?
Have they no patriotism in their heart that they're willing to accept Phils. as the the perpetual underdog and underachiever?

tigidig14

November 12th, 2005, 06:21 PM

the building looks so dull, looks like a factory actually

cruizer333444

November 12th, 2005, 09:26 PM

thanks for t-3 photo (isangani) haven't seen that one yet till now. awesome looking terminal. im planning to go home in june of 2007, hope it will be open for business by then. wish gma just kept her hands off the t-3 and let the germans operate the terminal.

IsaganiZenze

November 12th, 2005, 09:53 PM

not that i know of, A GREAT PICTURE ! a new view ! look at all those turbo props from aboitiz cargo on the right side of the apron. thank you for posting ! any more like these ? from which building was this pic. taken ?

hi.... not sure what building it was taken from. It seems high and I'm not sure if there are any low-rise scrapers around the area. But anywho, that's the only one i found from airliners.net...i'll try to look for some more. :)

now off topic: but does anyone know why there is a squatter area witihin the aiport..or is that within, i barely noticed..but yeah...just wondering...

kiretoce

November 13th, 2005, 03:24 PM

http://www.airliners.net/photos/photos/1/4/8/957841.jpg

Such a nice terminal....sadly it's only for display (for now at least). :cry:

xDieselJockx

November 13th, 2005, 07:36 PM

What happened to the pics? it got deleted ?

ryanr

November 14th, 2005, 01:45 AM

^^ They are back...Great pics:okay: credit to Jack Hannen of airliners.net

Is that a yellow crane i see behind the terminal? Is that for Newport City?

ThisFire

November 14th, 2005, 05:45 AM

Such a nice terminal....sadly it's only for display (for now at least). :cry:

Wow, we sure do like putting things on display instead of putting them into use, di ba?

xXx carlos xXx

November 14th, 2005, 05:48 AM

Wow, we sure do like putting things on display instead of putting them into use, di ba?

sayang naman kasi paggamitin natin... marurumihan... hahaha :jk:

ThisFire

November 14th, 2005, 06:02 AM

^ hahahahaha wag naman!

SKYLINEPIGEON

November 14th, 2005, 07:35 AM

i can see one plane on landing approach

ramvingar

November 14th, 2005, 09:26 AM

sana they used double airbridges na rin. it would have helped boarding and de-planing to be faster

rockwell baller

November 14th, 2005, 01:11 PM

hey! i'm just new hir and i'm a makati forumer..woww! i've been longing for a thread who's talking bout NAIA 3 and i'm hir now! :wave: for me dis state-of-the-art airport shud b open we have good business districts w/ world class hotels and malls we just lack a brand new and amazing airport!! if this will open dis will attract more investors and tourists... i've seen the interiors and exteriors and its great can be compared to our neighbors.. IT SHUD BE OPEN NOW!!! ahh! mactan cebu airport looks better than naia1 for me and naia2 is jus exclusive to PAL... IsaganiZenze nice pic! just wish no squatters near a world class airport.. :weird:

kiretoce

November 14th, 2005, 01:47 PM

sayang naman kasi paggamitin natin... marurumihan... hahaha :jk:

:lol: Reminds me of our couches (sofas) in the Philippines still wrapped in plastic! :lol:

bulakenyo

November 14th, 2005, 02:40 PM

^^ soooo pinoy!! :lol:

Animo

November 16th, 2005, 01:51 AM

I wonder when this damn place will open and put to use!!!

bustero

November 16th, 2005, 05:44 AM

^^^we should have a counter for statements like this. bet you we can fill up a whole thread of 500 posts with one line statement from everysingle person wondering when NAIA 3 will open:)

tigidig14

November 16th, 2005, 05:50 AM

^^:hilarious, i actually stop wondering in this thread no more

bagel

November 16th, 2005, 06:46 AM

^^ Parang initiation yan eh... To become fully a member of SSC if you're a Filipino, you have to make such statements at least more than once, and at every iteration of "NAIA TERMINAL 3 PART *" thread.

ryanr

November 16th, 2005, 06:48 AM

^^And this thread is about to reach 500, and its still not open:rant:

LOL

renell

November 16th, 2005, 08:47 AM

I wonder how many false alarms we've had...... the last one was probably the best one in terms of hope, but still it was false

stephencua

November 16th, 2005, 08:51 AM

^^^we should have a counter for statements like this. bet you we can fill up a whole thread of 500 posts with one line statement from everysingle person wondering when NAIA 3 will open:)

hahaha.. amen to that!

Solblanc

November 16th, 2005, 01:45 PM

we should make an SSC Philippines FAQ and add "When is T3 going to open?" as a question that should never be asked :D

sista

November 16th, 2005, 02:29 PM

^^ para mas madali sulatin na lang dun, bukas na bubuksan ang T3 dahil marami pang bukas na darating lol

sugbuanon

November 16th, 2005, 02:49 PM

magrally na lang tayong lahat (SSC forumers) para mabuksan na ang T3.. haha :D

OtAkAw

November 16th, 2005, 03:44 PM

Better yet, maglitanya nalang tayo! Personally kaya kong ipadasal sa simbahan namin na buksan na ang T3! hehehe, God fulfills all wishes basta deserve naten db?

bagel

November 16th, 2005, 05:05 PM

^^ para mas madali sulatin na lang dun, bukas na bubuksan ang T3 dahil marami pang bukas na darating lol

:laugh:

Animo

November 16th, 2005, 10:22 PM

magrally na lang tayong lahat (SSC forumers) para mabuksan na ang T3.. haha :D

:dance: We need to ask the Opposition to borrow those "hakot" people with those "pa-pogi" politicians! :bash:

bulakenyo

November 16th, 2005, 11:16 PM

:dance: We need to ask the Opposition to borrow those "hakot" people with those "pa-pogi" politicians! :bash:

I don't think that's possible because there are rumors that they'll be staging a coup and mass demonstrations come december. heheheheeh!!

pau_p1

November 19th, 2005, 12:48 PM

Naia may move out
excerpt from http://news.inq7.net/nation/index.php?index=1&story_id=57005

The Ninoy Aquino International Airport (Naia) is apparently a prime candidate that needs shaping up. Quite near it is a squatter colony.

"Ultimately, it will have to move out because that is not the ideal place for an international airport," said Ambassador and Apec Counter Terrorism Task Force chief Benjamin Defensor.

But he said a transfer would not come soon because it would cost around $300 million. He said the Clark airport was "more ideal" than Naia to be the country's premier airport.

ryanr

November 19th, 2005, 07:13 PM

^^ Didnt we, in SSC Philippines know that already...even before they realized? hehehe;)

kiretoce

November 21st, 2005, 03:39 PM

^^ They should have listened to us and let us make the decisions! :lol:

marites4

November 21st, 2005, 04:58 PM

I don't think that's possible because there are rumors that they'll be staging a coup and mass demonstrations come december. heheheheeh!!
Now pulse asia just realeased a survey saying 6 out of 10 pinoys want gma to resign. THis is what's fueling the opposition's thirst for a power grab.
Does this survey seem accurate to everyone?

kiretoce

November 22nd, 2005, 07:19 PM

"Just compensation" for PIATCo; DBP raising $300M for NAIA 3 buyout
By Doris C. Dumlao Inquirer News Service Nov. 23, 2005

STATE-OWNED Development Bank of the Philippines is preparing a $300-$400 million loan facility for the Manila International Airport Authority to compensate Philippine International Air Terminals Co. (PIATCo), former project proponent of Terminal 3 of Manila's Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA), banking sources said

PIATCo was forced out of the NAIA 3 build-operate-transfer project by the Supreme Court in a ruling in May 2003 that the contract was "grossly disadvantageous" to the government.

Banking sources said DBP was preparing a 10- to 15-year loan to the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) that would be backed by zero-coupon government bonds.

"It's still being structured," a banker said of the loan.

Other sources said the airport authority was raising the funds needed to buy out PIATCo while awaiting a court ruling on how much the "just compensation" would be.

Takenaka Corp., which constructed the terminal, said the PIATCo consortium of Filipino and German partners spent $290 million to put up NAIA 3, but PIATCo claimed it spent $650 million.

The government plans to open the NAIA 3, which is now 98-percent completed, by March.

Official sources said the MIAA was looking at a shorter-term loan because the government did not intend to hold on to the terminal for long.

As the plan is to privatize the airport at the soonest time possible, the government would prefer a loan maturity of less than 10 years, the sources said.

DBP is willing to lend up to $400 million but $300 million would be enough to meet MIAA's requirements for the controversial terminal, the sources added.

In any case, the sources said, the government would thresh out all problems and clean up NAIA 3's finances to make it more attractive to new investors.

The government expropriated the airport terminal last December. It has since faced a number of lawsuits, including an arbitration case filed before the World Bank's International Center for Settlement of Investment Disputes by PIATCo's German-based partner, Fraport AG, which demanded reimbursement of $425 million that it says it had invested in NAIA 3.

Fraport later agreed to sell its 61-percent stake in PIATCo for $200 million to a consortium headed by Chinese-Filipino businessman Emilio Yap, the owner of the Manila Hotel.

The long-drawn controversy took on another twist when Asia's Emerging Dragon Corp. (AEDC), the original proponent of the NAIA 3 project before it was awarded to PIATCo, revived its interest in the terminal project. AEDC has asked the Supreme Court to order the government to award it the contract to operate the mothballed facility.

Citing the build-operate-transfer law, AEDC said it was automatically entitled to the award of the NAIA 3 project as a matter of "clear statutory right."

Established in 1993, AEDC was originally composed of Chinese-Filipino tycoons John Gokongwei, Andrew Gotianun, Henry Sy, George Ty, Alfonso Yuchengco and Lucio Tan. Tan later bought the shares of the other five magnates.

tigidig14

November 22nd, 2005, 08:01 PM

:banana: ^ YES

ryanr

November 22nd, 2005, 08:45 PM

^^ the story continues...

kiretoce

November 22nd, 2005, 09:12 PM

German investors hesitating, waiting for resolution of NAIA-3 issue — Ambassador Weishaupt
By BERNIE CAHILES MAGKILAT

German Ambassador Dr. Axel Weishaupt has expressed optimism that the Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3 will soon become operational although he was dismayed that negotiations for its opening have dragged along and have put new German investments into the country on hold.

"Trade with the Philippines has remained robust with the Philippines enjoying a big surplus. Trade is okay but there is a problem in the investments aspect," Weishaupt said, noting that German investors are "hesitating and waiting" for the resolution of the NAIA-3 terminal.

He refused to identify the German investments that are awaiting to come in once the Philippine International Air Terminals Corp. (PIATCO) issue is resolved but said that most of these investments are in infrastructure and electronics.

Aside from trade, the German ambassador said the German aid to the Philippines has not been affected by the PIATCO issue, stressing it is a separate matter.

To date, German aid to the Philippines reached $600 million and this expected to increase by 6 percent next year. Germans rank third as biggest donor to the Philippines after Japan and the United States.

Weishaupt, who met with reporters at the opening of the new Henkel Philippines, Inc., office, however, stressed that bilateral trade between the two countries has not been affected by the continued unresolved issues involving PIATCO, in which German firm Fraport AG Frankfurt Airport Services Worldwide is the biggest investor.

Jump here

A few months ago, The Manila Hotel Corporation announced it bought out the 30 percent stake of Fraport in PIATCO for $200 million and the Sojits Corporation of Japan and SB Airport Investments Inc. for $30 million.

In a statement, the Manila Hotel said that upon conclusion of the purchase of Fraport’s shares, Fraport and PIATCO, including its stockholders, will cause the mutual withdrawal and dismissal of all civil and criminal cases pending here and aborard, including the arbitration cases pending before the International Centre for Settlement of Investment Disputes at the World Bank in Washington, DC, and the International Court of Arbitration at the International Chamber of Commerce in Singapore.

Around that time, Weishaupt was ecstatic and said that more German investors were expected to invest into the country following the removal of the major irritant in both country’s economic relations with the decision of the Manila Hotel Corp. to buyout the stake of the German investor in the PIATCO in NAIA-3 for $200 million.

"But negotiations have dragged along. It is taking longer than expected and companies have been wanting to move in. But we are optimistic that the NAIA-3 will soon be opened," he said. He noted that negotiations are ongoing behind the scenes.

In terms of trade, Weishaupt expects bilateral trade to growth between 3 and 4 percent this year and if the encouraging trend will continue, two-way trade might hit $3.6 billion this year.

bagel

November 22nd, 2005, 09:17 PM

They should make a teleserya about this. I feel like I'm on a roller coaster. In fact if there's a graph of SSC forumer sentiment about NAIA3, it would be like an EKG readout. Up and down, up and down, up and down.

tigidig14

November 22nd, 2005, 09:20 PM

the story continues...
the helo garci or the naia

pau_p1

November 23rd, 2005, 03:51 AM

ooppsss I reposted the news article above..:D

ThisFire

November 23rd, 2005, 04:50 AM

interesting turn of events

richard fischer

November 23rd, 2005, 08:16 AM

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richard fischer
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ANOTHER FAIRY TALE ? or this time reliable ?

'Just compensation' for PIATCo
DBP raising $300M for NAIA 3 buyout
Posted: 1:45 AM | Nov. 23, 2005

STATE-OWNED Development Bank of the Philippines is preparing a $300-$400 million loan facility for the Manila International Airport Authority to compensate Philippine International Air Terminals Co. (PIATCo), former project proponent of Terminal 3 of Manila's Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA), banking sources said

PIATCo was forced out of the NAIA 3 build-operate-transfer project by the Supreme Court in a ruling in May 2003 that the contract was "grossly disadvantageous" to the government.

Banking sources said DBP was preparing a 10- to 15-year loan to the Manila International Airport Authority (MIAA) that would be backed by zero-coupon government bonds.

"It's still being structured," a banker said of the loan.

Other sources said the airport authority was raising the funds needed to buy out PIATCo while awaiting a court ruling on how much the "just compensation" would be.

Takenaka Corp., which constructed the terminal, said the PIATCo consortium of Filipino and German partners spent $290 million to put up NAIA 3, but PIATCo claimed it spent $650 million.

The government plans to open the NAIA 3, which is now 98-percent completed, by March.

Official sources said the MIAA was looking at a shorter-term loan because the government did not intend to hold on to the terminal for long.

As the plan is to privatize the airport at the soonest time possible, the government would prefer a loan maturity of less than 10 years, the sources said.

DBP is willing to lend up to $400 million but $300 million would be enough to meet MIAA's requirements for the controversial terminal, the sources added.

In any case, the sources said, the government would thresh out all problems and clean up NAIA 3's finances to make it more attractive to new investors.

The government expropriated the airport terminal last December. It has since faced a number of lawsuits, including an arbitration case filed before the World Bank's International Center for Settlement of Investment Disputes by PIATCo's German-based partner, Fraport AG, which demanded reimbursement of $425 million that it says it had invested in NAIA 3.

Fraport later agreed to sell its 61-percent stake in PIATCo for $200 million to a consortium headed by Chinese-Filipino businessman Emilio Yap, the owner of the Manila Hotel.

The long-drawn controversy took on another twist when Asia's Emerging Dragon Corp. (AEDC), the original proponent of the NAIA 3 project before it was awarded to PIATCo, revived its interest in the terminal project. AEDC has asked the Supreme Court to order the government to award it the contract to operate the mothballed facility.

Citing the build-operate-transfer law, AEDC said it was automatically entitled to the award of the NAIA 3 project as a matter of "clear statutory right."

Established in 1993, AEDC was originally composed of Chinese-Filipino tycoons John Gokongwei, Andrew Gotianun, Henry Sy, George Ty, Alfonso Yuchengco and Lucio Tan. Tan later bought the shares of the other five magnates. With INQ7.net