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muster December 5th, 2007, 01:25 AM Sørenga
Official website about Sørenga here (http://www.sorenga.no/).
Sørenga is an old harbor pier stretching out in the fjord in Bjørvika. Its a major residential and mixed use projects in Bjørvika, a part of the Fjordcity (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=102067)
project. Between 2009 and 2016 approximately 800 dwellings will be built here offering a fantastic location right on the waterfront. The area is
unique in that it is surrounded by the fjord on three sides. Among the facilities planned are a park and bathing complex, a long harbour
promenade with shops, cafés and restaurants and a marina. As well as underground parking facilities, there will also be storage units where
residents can stow their kayaks.
A total of eight building phases are planned for completion by 2016. The first building phase consists of three separate buildings of between five
and seven floors. Building Phase 1 will be ready for occupancy in the autumn of 2011. The second building phase, where most of the top-floor
apartments have private terraces, consists of four buildings with 93 apartments and a secluded courtyard above the harbour promenade. The
third building phase is designed around an atrium. This contains 127 apartments, 19 of which are so-called rooftop apartments with terraces
measuring up to 150 sq m. The façade evokes associations with a ship’s hull, and the sea-facing balconies protrude like the bridge of a ship
above the harbour promenade and the marina. Next building phase, phase 4, will be put on the market in the autumn of 2011.
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Sørenga is divided into several sites, scroll down, or click these links to jump to your site of interest.
D1b-2 (Byggetrinn 1) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=85942916#post85942916) by LPO Arkitekter
D1b-1 (Byggetrinn 2) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=85942917#post85942917) by MAD
D1b-6 (Byggetrinn 3) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=85942918#post85942918) by Jarmund/Vigsnæs
D1b-5 (Byggetrinn 4) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=85942919#post85942919) by LPO Arkitekter
D1b-4 (Byggetrinn 5) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=85942920#post85942920) by MAD
D1b-3 (Byggetrinn 7) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=85942921#post85942921) by Kari Nissen Brodtkorb
D1b-7a (Byggetrinn 8) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=85942922#post85942922)
D1b-7b (Byggetrinn 6) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=85942923#post85942923) by Jarmund/Vigsnæs
D1a (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=85942924#post85942924)
D5 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=44039444#post44039444)
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Masterplan illustrations (these renderings does not reveal the design of the individual complexes and buildings)
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Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)
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Updated by Þróndeimr
Þróndeimr December 8th, 2007, 04:07 PM Byggetrinn 1 (D1b-2)
Byggetrinn 1 consist of a complex of 3 buildings, Hus A, Hus B and Hus C. Hus A is the largest building with 55 apartments and 7 floors. Hus B is the
smallest with 24 apartments and 6 floors. There will be a roof garden for the occupants on Hus B. Hus C will be 7 floors tall with 36 Apartments.
Altogether Byggetrinn 1 has 115 apartments. Construction started in 2009 and will be completed in late 2011. LPO (http://www.lpo.no/) is the architect of this complex.
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Þróndeimr December 10th, 2007, 11:05 PM Byggetrinn 2 (D1b-1)
Plot D1b-1 which is Byggetrinn 2 (second construction stage) at Sørenga consists of a quarter with 4 buildings, Hus A, Hus B, Hus C and Hus D.
Hus D is four floors tall, the lowest in D1b-1 while Hus B is the tallest with 7 floors. All in all, the quarter contain 93 apartments. MAD (http://www.mad.no/) is
the architect of this complex which started construction in 2010 and is scheduled to be completed in 2012.
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Þróndeimr December 12th, 2007, 12:46 AM Byggetrinn 3 (D1b-6)
D1b-6 is the third construction stage (Byggetrinn 3) at Sørenga. The site consist of one large square building containing 127 apartments.
Construction started in late 2010 and is scheduled to be completed in December 2012. Jarmund/Vigsnæs (http://www.jva.no/) is the architect of the complex.
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Þróndeimr December 17th, 2007, 06:48 PM Byggetrinn 4 (D1b-5)
Plot D1b-5 is the 4th construction phase (Byggetrinn 4) in Sørenga and consist of one large square building with an open space in the middle of the
complex. The 7 floor tall complex contain 188 apartments, a kindergarten and some shops and boutiques. Construction started in December 2011
and is scheduled to be completed in December 2013. LPO (http://www.lpo.no/) is the architect of D1b-5.
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Þróndeimr January 23rd, 2008, 07:37 PM Byggetrinn 5 (D1b-4)
Still awaiting more information concerning D1b-4. What is known is that this will be the 5th construction phase (Byggetrinn 5) and that MAD is the
architect. Screen-photos taken by Ingenioren in late October 2011.
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Þróndeimr January 25th, 2008, 09:09 PM Byggetrinn 7 (D1b-3)
This will be the 7th construction phase (Byggetrinn 7). Its designed by Kari Nissen Brodtkorb and has a area of 19 400m2.
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Þróndeimr January 26th, 2008, 12:52 AM D1b-7a
Þróndeimr February 16th, 2008, 04:25 PM Byggetrinn 6 (D1b-7b)
D1b-7b is designed by Jarmund/Vigsnæs and is planned as the 6th construction stage at Sørenga.
Model photo taken by Ingenioren.
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Þróndeimr February 17th, 2008, 06:06 PM D1a
Only a sketch is available so far.
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muster October 3rd, 2009, 05:58 PM D5
Updated by Þróndeimr
IceCheese October 3rd, 2009, 06:24 PM ^^Do we need another thread for this? Does the Fjordcity-thread see that much activity?
On the news side, though, I saw a picture earlier this week (or was it last week?) that showed which quarter they will start selling first. In the original Fjordcity-thread, I speculated on them starting to sell from the "inside" and outwards, but it seems as they will start pretty randomly in the middle. This is basicly where the will start selling:
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Ingenioren October 5th, 2009, 09:15 AM ^ Always nice to gather the information in different treads if one wants to retrieve a specific piece later on :)
I am most looking forward to see the design of Canal-houses, hopefully it will be in a modern Amsterdam-style!
joamox October 5th, 2009, 11:14 AM canal houses, are those that we seen in the render facing west?
This is going to be an interesting thread to follow
IceCheese October 5th, 2009, 03:31 PM ^^Actually, the canal-houses will be the ones facing the canals (there will be two of them). Like seen in this aerial:
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And some general info about Sørenga (to be posted in the first post?):
Construction start: 2010
First block finished: 2011-12
All eight blocks finished: 2016
Number of appartments: 950
Total size: 80 000 sqm (includes ~8 000 sqm non-housing area)
UrbanLife October 5th, 2009, 06:55 PM I have actually never noticed the second canal! It sure looks good. Searched for some Sørenga facts yesterday, and this proposal from Snøhetta looks crappy:
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/48/483/483630/sorenga858_1164103567.jpg
(The right one)
Glad LPO won. The Snøhetta has no urban feel at all..
mjoks007 October 5th, 2009, 07:23 PM Cant wait to see the renders, I really hope it will be something simular to Sluseholmen.
And yes, the Snøhetta plan looks awfull. It would destroy the Bjørvika concept totally.
marshol October 5th, 2009, 10:49 PM Cant wait to see the renders
Can't wait to see the cranes and the excavators.
katia72 October 5th, 2009, 11:18 PM All these projects are the same. Oslo need something new.
Maybe something like this:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2442/3951678503_46d045d4a9_b.jpg
UrbanLife October 5th, 2009, 11:20 PM So that is what you call new? :bash:
mjoks007 October 5th, 2009, 11:22 PM Please Katia, keep Benidorm away from Oslo.
Ingenioren October 5th, 2009, 11:41 PM Rather something like this:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2921865235_0661021f36_b.jpg
Mulefisk October 6th, 2009, 01:04 PM I have actually never noticed the second canal! It sure looks good. Searched for some Sørenga facts yesterday, and this proposal from Snøhetta looks crappy:
http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/48/483/483630/sorenga858_1164103567.jpg
(The right one)
Glad LPO won. The Snøhetta has no urban feel at all..
I agree. :ohno:
It's depressing when architectural fırms use competitions like this to make new 'urban experiments' that usually amount to strange projects like that. Keep mainly to dense city blocks and things we know that work if you ask me.
And stuff like what Ingenioren posted above me. That's a great shot, where is that from?
Ingenioren October 6th, 2009, 01:53 PM It's a suburb of Amsterdam :)
katia72 October 6th, 2009, 02:45 PM So that is what you call new? :bash:
Yeah, that is right...new for Oslo, instead of boring gray blocks.
Typically Scandinavian Arkitektur.
All of you here are so fascinated by these projects that you do not tolerate other opinions.
katia72 October 6th, 2009, 02:47 PM Please Katia, keep Benidorm away from Oslo.
There is a difference between Miami and Benidorm:ohno:
mjoks007 October 6th, 2009, 02:59 PM All of you here are so fascinated by these projects that you do not tolerate other opinions.
I like highrises (slim though) but not I dont like big fat blocks without urban qualities. American towns in general is not a good picture for european towns in my opinion.
muster October 6th, 2009, 03:06 PM Yeah, that is right...new for Oslo, instead of boring gray blocks.
Typically Scandinavian Arkitektur.
All of you here are so fascinated by these projects that you do not tolerate other opinions.
So, where are those grey blocks at Sørenga you don't like..........?
Or maybe you are thinking of the grey blocks at Barcode? :lol:
katia72 October 6th, 2009, 03:59 PM So, where are those grey blocks at Sørenga you don't like..........?
Or maybe you are thinking of the grey blocks at Barcode? :lol:
Barcode is great ... Sørenga need something different. Its too much of the same blocks. These buildings fit more in to Økern or Stovner.
I would not copy buildings from US but make them more Europeans style.
Please tell me what is so fabulous about these project: http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/48/483/483630/sorenga858_1164103567.jpg
:ohno:
muster October 6th, 2009, 07:53 PM Barcode is great ... Sørenga need something different. Its too much of the same blocks. These buildings fit more in to Økern or Stovner.
I would not copy buildings from US but make them more Europeans style.
Please tell me what is so fabulous about these project: http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/48/483/483630/sorenga858_1164103567.jpg
:ohno:
The great thing about sørenga is the location. I like the canals, and I'm happy it's not just residential but also restaurants etc.
That said, I would prefer a more inner city edge to it and higher buildings of course.
We will see how the project turns out. It is too early to make final judgements imo. :)
Ingenioren October 6th, 2009, 08:31 PM katia72, if you don't like traditional city blocks that is entirely up to you. I think the masterplan is ok, it is better than the usual Scandinavian imo... (Would like some towers to, tough.) All we can hope for is that the architects for the individual blocks will make them colourfull and with variations. With the restaurants and fjordwalk there is no doubt this will turn out to become a good area to visit like Aker-Brygge (Or hopefully more eastern vibe.) :)
Edit: I see now they have published the prospekt, not very colourful at all - is it?
muster October 6th, 2009, 08:32 PM So, here are the first apartments for sale in Bjørvika. I have to admit that the design could be more interesting...
Arcitects are LPO.
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mjoks007 October 6th, 2009, 09:24 PM That didnt look too exciting... Why is it, that most norwegian architects are afraid to make their buildings a bit colorful:bash: I hope they discuss with the other companies so Sør-Enga dont turns out to be one grey bunsh og buildings..
Spearman October 6th, 2009, 10:53 PM I have to say I agree with katia - living by the sea is a privelege for the few, and this development certainly keeps it that way. It could take a higher degree of development, and I think this is a good place to do it.
As I've said before, residential blocks are generally not as good looking as other kinds of highrise (or building) and the development continues in that tradision. The master plan is good, the buildings are nothing special. I have seen them before.
mcmlxv October 6th, 2009, 11:37 PM Wow, magnificently boring! I guess every major building project has its ugly duckling, and this seems to be the most obvious candidate thus far. The irony is that is it this part of the Fjordcity that could be the ghost town that everybody dreads, Oslo's own little Florida for the disgustingly rich elderly.
Behold, heaps of goat cheese!
SMCD October 6th, 2009, 11:56 PM So, here are the first apartments for sale in Bjørvika. I have to admit that the design could be more interesting...
Arcitects are LPO.
What's this? Student housing from the 60´s? :ohno:
IceCheese October 7th, 2009, 01:20 AM Well, it isn't terrible. Just a bit... boring. I have previously compared this project to Sluseholmen outside of Copenhagen and, well... It sure looks even more like it now with all those Danish-style bricks and everything!
What's no matter good about this project is that so many differnt architect firms will be involved, so nothing is more sure than that the other blocks WON'T look like this one. Let's just agree the first wasn't the best one, then we can have higher hopes for the next ones!:)
Bonus render showing the inner courtyard:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Srenga.jpg
Prices seems to be ok for a brand new project as such a location. 2 mio for a 53 sqm is better than most, really. Norwegian housing prices doesn't reflect what money people have eitherway...
About the concept of Sørenga in total, that's another discussion. I think it is great that you, Katia, have some other opinions! I in general agree that Sørenga should've been denser (as I do with all of Bjørvika. Even Økern/Stovner deserves denser than this). I also agree that Miami-style appartments also is the only way to go to get more reasonable estate prices in this city. But, what I don't agree with is, that you say "all these projects look the same", when this clearly is a way of building a housing district which is practicly unseen in the city + we have serious architect firms who are known to not draw those stereotype appartment blocks you actually DO see all around the city.
After all, though, you may be right. A "Norwegianized" version of the Miami harborfront may be a great proposal for Bjørvika. Maybe not at Sørenga, but at the blocks along E18, below Ekebergåsen/Sjømannsskolen. That area just craves for density!
Mr. Love Architectur October 7th, 2009, 12:21 PM the prospects and drawings of the first building going on sale 15 oct is out. look to www.sørenga.no for more great pics.
the first inhabitants will be moving in in 2011. that seems to be awfully fast and extremely good news for all of us.
cant wait till they get started. just hope the prices are not overkill and that the salesprocess goes very fast. that will the development will flourish.
Ingenioren October 7th, 2009, 12:37 PM Don't think they will be that hard to sell, they are actually cheap compared to other projects considering the prime location... =)
katia72 October 7th, 2009, 12:59 PM So, here are the first apartments for sale in Bjørvika. I have to admit that the design could be more interesting...
Arcitects are LPO.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Srenga4.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Srenga2.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Srenga.jpg
This, I was afraid of,......!
I am disappointed with this project :ohno:
Looks like the architects have not strained them at all. This was a pity
UrbanLife October 7th, 2009, 01:17 PM Yeah, that is right...new for Oslo, instead of boring gray blocks.
Typically Scandinavian Arkitektur.
All of you here are so fascinated by these projects that you do not tolerate other opinions.
Those blocks you linked are the godfather of grey blocks.. Where is the street life(or even THE STREETS), the shops, the people etc. Exeppt from the location, we allready have those blocks you want in huge numbers up in Groruddalen..
I respect your opinion, but I think you should argue better for why you mean what you mean, instead of just throwing a random picture without any explanation etc. Given the buildings you shows were buildt - you then realize the whole Bjørvika area will be covered in shadows? Or you might have so strong winds, that it would be impossible to walk on the roof of the Opera?
Scandinavian architecture is boring? You are of course free to feel that, but I think you have a whole world of architetcs against you..
joamox October 7th, 2009, 04:00 PM .
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u315/erreflot/Srenga.jpg
My initial reaction to this render in particular was one of huge dissapointment. Im thinking though that its also a bit misleading.
It has a very blockish feel with a series of near identical rows. However, only the two first blocks are actually rendered, the bits to the far left will be designed by other architects and presumably will end up looking very different from what we see here. Also the two blocks in front are actually not blocks at all but part of a kvartal, linked by a gated wall. There seems to be two more openings like this on the other side. This constitutes some new thinking away from the commieblock mentality, and I applaud that, but it still appears a hybrid rather than a true kvartal structure. One of the most obvious reasons for this is that the kvartal is not seperated into different buildings with different design but seem to follow a repetitive pattern. Phase 1 at Tjuvholmen is a perfect example of what I would rather see. The other reason of course are the openings. I really feel an arch, like the ones at Torshov might have served better.
All in all i give it a pass for now, and the hope that I will be pleasantly surprised in the future. I cant really tell what the facade is though, is that wood or a type of brick? Edit: Just found out its brick.
By the way, if anyone are confused about my distinction between block and kvartal, then its because Im not quite sure how to make the distinction in English. Presumably most reading this will be Norwegian anyway, so I guess there is not much need explaining that further.
katia72 October 7th, 2009, 04:52 PM Those blocks you linked are the godfather of grey blocks.. Where is the street life(or even THE STREETS), the shops, the people etc. Exeppt from the location, we allready have those blocks you want in huge numbers up in Groruddalen..
I respect your opinion, but I think you should argue better for why you mean what you mean, instead of just throwing a random picture without any explanation etc. Given the buildings you shows were buildt - you then realize the whole Bjørvika area will be covered in shadows? Or you might have so strong winds, that it would be impossible to walk on the roof of the Opera?
Scandinavian architecture is boring? You are of course free to feel that, but I think you have a whole world of architetcs against you..
I do not see how you can compare blocks of Grorud to those of Miami?
These photos which I used was only an example for buildings.
If you were in Miami surely seen the beautiful way in which some buildings are arranged.The different colors and shapes, nd a large space between these buildings.
I have a lot of pictures which I could paste here (as an example), unfortunately I do not know how.
Apropos shadows .... in a way as buildings stand close together there will be very much shadows as in Tjuvholmen:ohno:
katia72 October 7th, 2009, 05:24 PM Those blocks you linked are the godfather of grey blocks.. Where is the street life(or even THE STREETS), the shops, the people etc. Exeppt from the location, we allready have those blocks you want in huge numbers up in Groruddalen..
I respect your opinion, but I think you should argue better for why you mean what you mean, instead of just throwing a random picture without any explanation etc. Given the buildings you shows were buildt - you then realize the whole Bjørvika area will be covered in shadows? Or you might have so strong winds, that it would be impossible to walk on the roof of the Opera?
Scandinavian architecture is boring? You are of course free to feel that, but I think you have a whole world of architetcs against you..
I found interesting project from Wroclaw (Poland) I would like to share with you. It is a combination of offices and apartments also lies by the water. As you can see there is LOT OF SPACE despite the height of some buildings.
These buildings are interesting shapes and colors:)
Here are links:
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm45/piotrex7/investmap/promenada_03.jpg
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm45/piotrex7/investmap/promenada_04.jpg
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm45/piotrex7/investmap/promenada_01.jpg
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm45/piotrex7/investmap/promenada_05.jpg
Ingenioren October 7th, 2009, 08:06 PM But we don't want large spaces between the buildings - there is much nicer to walk around when buildings are close together :) Altough i got to say i like that Wroclaw-project!
m00seofd00m October 7th, 2009, 10:02 PM for those who don't speak norsk, i am guessing a good way to describe 'kvartal' would be a quarter, or in terms of this, a small collection of dwellings and or busineses in an area known for something in particular.
yep, it's quite long-winded in english!
UrbanLife October 8th, 2009, 10:33 PM I found interesting project from Wroclaw (Poland) I would like to share with you. It is a combination of offices and apartments also lies by the water. As you can see there is LOT OF SPACE despite the height of some buildings.
These buildings are interesting shapes and colors:)
Here are links:
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm45/piotrex7/investmap/promenada_03.jpg
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm45/piotrex7/investmap/promenada_04.jpg
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm45/piotrex7/investmap/promenada_01.jpg
http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm45/piotrex7/investmap/promenada_05.jpg
Yes, and this is completely different from the last photo you posted. I agree it looks ok at the photos you posted, but the quality of this space is made up by the quarters, and not by the wide spread high rises.
That it is a lot of space is not necesary a good thing. Only a very dense populated place can handle such large open spaces. Sørenga is not one of them. To compare - Karl Johans gate(the main street of Oslo) is only 14 meters wide.
UrbanLife October 15th, 2009, 11:41 PM Record sale for the new apartments at Sørenga after the sales kick off. They sold apartments for 420 million kroner only today, and only a few apartments left!
http://e24.no/eiendom/article3323190.ece
IceCheese October 16th, 2009, 01:18 AM ^^Good news: Sørenga will keep it's schedule.
Bad news: The crazy-times are back in the Norwegian real-estate market.
The next phases will probably be a lot more expensive.
Sørenga should've obviously been planed for a much higher density.
mjoks007 October 23rd, 2009, 03:14 PM http://www.estatemedia.no/ArticleDetails/tabid/83/Skin/2/SecID/4/ArtID/12726/Default.aspx 104 out of 115 sold. They starts the construction in february next year.
How is the schedule for the other quarters?
IceCheese October 23rd, 2009, 04:15 PM http://www.estatemedia.no/ArticleDetails/tabid/83/Skin/2/SecID/4/ArtID/12726/Default.aspx 104 out of 115 sold. They starts the construction in february next year.
How is the schedule for the other quarters?
Apparantly sales start early 2010.:dunno: You even see how long time each block take. Don't understand your question. The blocks will be sold as fast as the market can diggest them...
marshol October 23rd, 2009, 04:46 PM Think he means when the other quarters will start constucting.
IceCheese October 23rd, 2009, 04:49 PM And I say that will depend on sales. After early 2010, it seems...
IceCheese November 8th, 2009, 01:58 AM This pretty badly made video, futures some half-cool effects, showing how Sørenga will develop from today till 2016 when it's finished. I hoped it would show the design of some more buildings, but apparantly we have to be patient for each block to be put on the market:ohno:
http://www.creooslo.no/sorenga/Sorenga.mp4
(Obs, it takes some time to load!)
Ingenioren January 20th, 2010, 06:26 PM Mads Sørengablock:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1046.jpg
Appears the rules for Sørenga is completly different than Tjuvholmen, withinn one block it is prohibited to have different materials or colour in the facades. :hammer: (No i'm not joking - it actually said so in their presentation... :nuts:)
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1048.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1049.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1050.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1051.jpg
Sluseholmen? Well we have a lot, A LOT to learn from our nabours. Especially considering this is a prime location in downtown Oslo on the most visible plot ever, while Sluseholmen is way out in the suburbs and a location where no one (Except especially interested) would notice if they built shitty projects. Enough said!
mjoks007 January 20th, 2010, 06:41 PM Sluseholmen? Well we have a lot, A LOT to learn from our nabours. Especially considering this is a prime location in downtown Oslo on the most visible plot ever, while Sluseholmen is way out in the suburbs and a location where no one (Except especially interested) would notice if they built shitty projects. Enough said!
True. This reminds me more and more of the typical waterfront projects, like here in Tønsberg, Larvik, Drammen etc.
muster January 20th, 2010, 06:47 PM I heard that the compromise with Byantikvaren says that the 30.000m2 lost in Kongsbakken will be added to Sørenga. If there is any truth in this I guess we will se more floors to the Sørenga buildings, especially the southern blocks.
Ingenioren January 21st, 2010, 04:28 PM ^^ Hopefully these squaremeters will be put into a one single tower at the southern tip, and he could always allow for more height to the towers at Sydhavna that the former Riksantikvar protested against:)
IceCheese March 18th, 2010, 01:57 AM No news, but it seems on Sorenga.no that sales on step 2 will commense in 2nd quarter. This is a delay, cause on the same site you can find old news stating 1st quarter as sales start. Pretty weird, since sales haven't exactly been "slow":dunno:
Construction on block 1 started in February, and everyone that have been in the area have probably noticed that digging has started:cheers:
Ingenioren March 23rd, 2010, 04:56 PM 3rd block revealed
Another Sørenga-block revealed, this one is Jarmund & Vigsnæs and i like it a lot better than the previous 2:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1417.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1418.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1419.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1420.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1421.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1422.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1418.jpg
IceCheese March 23rd, 2010, 06:36 PM Will be interesting to see what kind of facade materials fase 2 and 3 will have. Btw, ever heard of "Print Screen"?!
Ingenioren March 23rd, 2010, 06:51 PM Yeah, not very easy since these are only available at the PBEs computers that are locked to "Saksinnsyn" :lol:
Mulefisk March 23rd, 2010, 09:19 PM The slanting wall is a little odd, but all in all it looks better than MADs block. I like the terraces going up.
Ingenioren April 12th, 2010, 03:47 PM 12/4-10
Digging a hole now:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/Haldenapr/DSC_1614.jpg
IceCheese May 12th, 2010, 12:28 PM I guess many of you have gotten the same email as me, but here goes anyways.
Sales start for Step 2 will be June 16th. The quarter will have 94 appartments spread on four sepperate buildings. Prospects for the project will be published in week 23, the week before sales start (7th-11th).
IceCheese May 20th, 2010, 02:37 PM Some Sorenga news again:
Havnepromenaden på Sørenga
I løpet av høsten starter utbygging av første del av havnepromenaden på vestsiden av Sørengutstikkeren.
Dette blir et spennende og viktig element i Bjørvika og vil bli ferdigstilt i takt med tomtene den passerer.
Havnepromenaden vil ha gjennomsnittlig 20 meter bredde på vestsiden og 10 meter bredde på østsiden av utstikkeren.
Første del på Sørenga er planlagt ferdig høsten 2011.
Source: http://bjorvikautvikling.no/modules/module_123/proxy.asp?I=96&C=9&D=2&
Osloborger June 3rd, 2010, 08:26 PM I am getting worried about Sørenga. All the buildings are supposed to use the same exterior materials, brown bricks.
The images for the second development stage is starting to make its apperance and I'm not very impressed.
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/b3d2cc4be17f2fdca8c1234b6/images/mail_s_renga_stor.jpg
What is the inspiration/motivation for the decision to make all exterior walls identical in color and texture?
Ingenioren June 3rd, 2010, 10:09 PM To not make it "rotete" i was incredible frustrated when i first found out (This isn't exactly news if you had payed attention a few pages back.). This was not part of the winning masterplan that clearly had many different colours. Stupid thing to change!
IceCheese June 3rd, 2010, 11:28 PM Known or unknown, the third render from todays email shows how the second block will look from the seaside (the opera/munch museum):
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/mail_s_renga.jpg
I'm mostly disappointed on the solution towards the canal. Pluss of course, as earlier mentioned, I would like quarters without openings like this one.
Ingenioren June 3rd, 2010, 11:35 PM Might just be a placeholder, but it looks promising :)
IceCheese June 3rd, 2010, 11:42 PM Might just be a placeholder, but it looks promising :)
Yeah, I noticed it was just a mirror of the other side, so I edited it.
Mulefisk June 4th, 2010, 01:00 PM New renders from MAD's Sørenga block. Sorry about the quality, I scanned them from a newspaper.
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1654/scan0026h.jpg
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3766/scan0028qv.jpg
Let's hope the rest of the blocks will look a little better. :ohno:
Osloborger June 9th, 2010, 09:24 PM Now that the sales material for the second phase (http://www.sorenga.no/c-130-Prospekt.aspx) is ready, what is the verdict? Personally I don't like the shape of these buildings. I also wonder how they can think that having identical materials on every exterior wall makes this look like anything other than a large scale east block public housing project.
http://www.sorenga.no/images/Marketing/leilighetene/byggetrinn2/Salgsprospekt_trinn2_web-1.jpg
IceCheese June 29th, 2010, 12:51 AM Got an e-mail from Sørenga today, and supposedly 63 out of the total 93 appartments in step 2 have been sold. Probably good news, considering the continued development of the peninsula(pier?).
Mr. Love Architectur June 29th, 2010, 09:32 AM Great news. Lets for gods sake hope they have a 50 % sold, we start building rule. That would make the continuation more fluent, and they can now start thinking about the next quartal. I think that will be right behind the one for sale now. Meaning on the other side of the Sørenga. The east end. and last they will finish the quartal with the last plot.
Or maybe they will be going along the shore line to make the harbour more complete upon completion of the first steps. hmmmm. anyone know the specifics of the continuation?
Mr. Love Architectur July 2nd, 2010, 01:26 PM Info from Usbl; (next step - byggetrinn 3, autumn 2010. just after summer or sept then.
Sørenga bygges ut i regi av Sørenga Utvikling KS som eies av Boligbyggelaget Usbl, Backe Gruppen, Oslo Areal, Urbanium og finansielle investorer.
Byggetrinn 1, som ble solgt høsten 2009, har kun få leiligheter igjen. Her er byggingen i gang og boligene vil stå ferdig 2. halvår 2011.
16. juni 2010 ble byggetrinn 2 lagt ut for salg og 63 av 93 leiligheter ble solgt den kvelden. Det betyr at det blir byggestart også for dette byggetrinnet med planlagt ferdigstillelse 2. halvår 2012. Men det er fremdeles mange gode boliger igjen.
Byggetrinn 3 planlegges lagt ut for salg høsten 2010.
Når hele utbyggingen er ferdig vil det være 6 boligselskaper fordelt på 850 boliger på Sørenga. Usbl er aktivt med i utviklingsprosessen og skal være forretningsfører for boligselskapene og fellessameiet på Sørenga. De to første byggetrinnene er organisert som eierseksjonssameier. Organisasjonsform og profil på utbyggingsfeltene vil bli besluttet for hvert byggetrinn, men en del fellestrekk vil gå igjen slik at helheten ivaretas.
Ingenioren July 3rd, 2010, 09:10 PM The site is fenced in by Containers, so it's not to easy to get decent updates, this will have to do:
3/7-10
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/030710/DSC_2010.jpg
Opera roof:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/030710/DSC_2012.jpg
Mr. Love Architectur July 13th, 2010, 08:37 PM WHAT?!!!!! After reading on plan og bygningsetatens pages today about Sørenga i am apalled to know that all, yes, ALL of the new buildings will have the exact same brick exterior???????? whats going on? what happened
muster July 13th, 2010, 09:00 PM ^^ Yes, it is the soon to be famous "Sørenga-brick". I've heard that the producer of the brick is Hamran's uncle.
... just kidding :lol:
Anyway, my theory is that they want to make a waterfront that has some joint features. Both Aker Brygge and Akershus Festning have bricks already.
In the future, when you look at Sørenga from Tjuvholmen, you will probably see some continuation from festningen..
IceCheese July 13th, 2010, 09:56 PM The architect was so inspired by Kværnerbyen and it's beautiful design.
joamox July 14th, 2010, 01:50 PM ah the cynicism.
Im guessing they feel they have to try a new concept and not use the same formula as at tjuvholmen. Makes sense with all the criticism of it being a rich mans ghetto and all that other nonsense. Its a gamble and it could go horribly wrong but some of the most succesful city planning schemes in history used uniformity and simplicity to produce the intended results. I could go either way I think, so Id wait and see instead of instantly putting my thumb down.
mjoks007 July 14th, 2010, 03:17 PM So they suddenly changed, from all buildings being uniqe til all looking the same? That sounds professional :nuts:
joamox July 14th, 2010, 04:38 PM Doesnt sound particularly unprofessional to me, apparently it does to you. Mind you I never said look all the same, now did I?
Some of the most beautiful streets and areas in the world follow a homogenous and relatively simple pattern. It can produce great as well as disastrous results.
starkwell July 19th, 2010, 12:35 AM So they suddenly changed, from all buildings being uniqe til all looking the same? That sounds professional :nuts:
it is possible to build buildings in differing styles yet using the same materials...
that said, i have a terrible feeling the variation will be minimal
IceCheese August 12th, 2010, 03:10 PM A crane is being assembled at Sørenga today. Activity is increasing!:)
Ingenioren August 29th, 2010, 09:53 PM Model from step 3;
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/aug10/DSC00696.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/aug10/DSC00698.jpg
Update:
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/aug10/DSC00701.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/aug10/DSC00702.jpg
starkwell August 30th, 2010, 07:31 PM has anyone got the time or know-how to make one of those clicky-maps showing where these buildings will be....
Ingenioren August 30th, 2010, 07:44 PM Circled in step 2 in this map, step one is located directly south-west of it, and step 3 is directly south-east:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1046.jpg
IceCheese August 31st, 2010, 12:10 PM My pics of step 3 comes here. As stated, step 3 will start sales October 20th, and will be the first block on the north-east side.
Towards the bay
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika10/DSC01632.jpg
Canal side
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika10/DSC01633.jpg
The building will be very low on the side facing the central park
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika10/DSC01635.jpg
mjoks007 August 31st, 2010, 01:31 PM I suppose the low corner of glass facing the central park are intended for shops?
City of Rain August 31st, 2010, 04:42 PM very interesting, reminds me of a building in london. its a bit too wallish for my taste, but nice nonetheless :)
Ingenioren September 8th, 2010, 09:20 AM The western promenade starts construction:) It will be finished in summer of 2012.
http://www.byggaktuelt.no/content.asp?ContentId=192506
IceCheese September 16th, 2010, 01:36 PM All of you who joined the Bjørvika open day thingy in August, may remember how much the people at Sørenga bragged about the "special" brick type that's supposedly custom made for the project. LPO now features this picture on their website:
http://www.lpo.no/getfile.php/Prosjekter/052800%20S%C3%B8renga/TEGL_00-2_oversikt.JPG
Judging by the title of the file, may this be the type of bricks that will cover all of Sørenga?:dunno: Not unlikely...
Osloborger September 16th, 2010, 02:35 PM ^^
Will all these types be used? As similar as these brick types are, they do differ slightly and that is a welcome development IMO. Using just one particular brick type for the whole area sounds very uninspiring and makes me think about "commie block" areas.
IceCheese September 16th, 2010, 03:49 PM ^^I'm dissapointed of the lack of variation. I was hopeing for some at least black bricks, but also some lighter (white?) brick types. I'm very fond of the brick type they have on one of the Tjuvholmen blocks, which is very appealing and modern. The sample to the right here looks like they've fetched it from some standard old Oslo factory building... But to be honest, I have no idea if any of these will be used. As said, I just found the picture pretty randomly.
Osloborger September 16th, 2010, 04:28 PM I sure am quite desperate when I see variation in the bricks lined up in the picture. I can't understand how they can consider one brick type to be preferable to using different materials. What is the inspiration for this? Are there other projects of similar size that use only one kind of material that I can look at for comparison?
IceCheese September 16th, 2010, 04:39 PM ^^Aker Brygge. The big inspiration for Sørenga, according to developers. (of course what makes Aker Brygge is the dynamics between new and old, not the facade material)
mjoks007 September 21st, 2010, 05:04 PM Runder milliarden på Sørenga (http://www.estatenyheter.no/ArticleDetails/tabid/83/Skin/2/SecID/4/ArtID/13376/Default.aspx)
IceCheese September 21st, 2010, 05:44 PM Why are they suddenly goaling for small appartments? I thought they wanted a modern family profile for Sørenga. Now we just get even more of the same...
Osloborger September 22nd, 2010, 02:50 PM Are there any illustrations of this third leg of the Sørenga development? PBE?
Ingenioren September 22nd, 2010, 03:01 PM Sure, just check back a few pages... :)
IceCheese September 22nd, 2010, 11:14 PM The prospect doesn't seem to be online yet, but we at least have this one render from the mail that was distributed today:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/exterior_view3endelig200723.jpg
muster September 22nd, 2010, 11:20 PM The prospect doesn't seem to be online yet, but we at least have this one render from the mail that was distributed today:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/exterior_view3endelig200723.jpg
Looks like a bunker from World War 2...
at least in the render. I think it will be ok in real life though.
Osloborger September 22nd, 2010, 11:21 PM Sure, just check back a few pages... :)
I had already forgotten those... What about the 4th round? There has got to be some applications at PBE for that one. The current project is here (http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=200912985), but I can't find info about the next project.
Ingenioren September 22nd, 2010, 11:32 PM Couldn't find anything.
IceCheese September 23rd, 2010, 12:01 AM I guess the fourth step will be the one completing the "square" of all four blocks between the two canals? That would be the block in the background from my last post...
Fjordbyen2015 September 24th, 2010, 01:01 AM I have a feeling that the general public in a decade or so will look back at this project as just another missed opportunity in this city. The buildings design look dull and uninspired, the density is way too low, making the whole area more suburb-ish, and the little variation in styles and materials doesn't exactly make the overall impression better. I really can't imagine how this is supposed to be another "Aker Brygge". My fear is that activity at street level in certain times of the day will be little or nonexistent.
I hope I'll be proven wrong, though. I really do...
Þróndeimr October 17th, 2010, 09:48 AM 3rd block revealed
Another Sørenga-block revealed, this one is Jarmund & Vigsnæs and i like it a lot better than the previous 2:
[IMG]http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1417.jpg
[IMG]http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1418.jpg
[IMG]http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1419.jpg
[IMG]http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1420.jpg
[IMG]http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1421.jpg
[IMG]http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1422.jpg
[IMG]http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1418.jpg
Got the height/cote figures written down? I could find a use for them!
Þróndeimr October 17th, 2010, 11:08 AM Urbika overview:
Sørenga Byggetrinn 1 - Sørenga Kvartal D1b-2 (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/4027-sa-cedil-renga-kvart)
Sørenga Byggetrinn 2 - Sørenga Kvartal D1b-1 (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/4026-sa-cedil-renga-kvart)
Sørenga Byggetrinn 3 - Sørenga Kvartal D1b-6 (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/4025-sa-cedil-renga-kvart)
Help me fill in missing information!
http://i52.tinypic.com/x0tsax.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/am2ok.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/nfrvqh.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/x4lqtg.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/13zr90n.jpg
Mr. Love Architectur October 21st, 2010, 01:46 PM Finally Sørenga step 3 was out for sale yesterday.
They have already updated which has been sold on www.sørenga.no
Looks to be 29-30 apartments sold on first day. Almost no one of the most expensive ones has gone though. Could we see a tightening of the up scale market perhaps.
If i had 10 m nkr to spend on an apartment, i would perhaps go for the ones at the waterfront towards the opera naturally, but looks damn fine some of these penthouses though. Huge terraces which definitely would be supernice during summertime.
But will the "flying" tram line to Ekeberg go right over this block? (taubanen fra bak munch museet mener jeg altså).
marshol October 21st, 2010, 02:04 PM moved..
Ingenioren December 13th, 2010, 12:04 PM http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/DSC_0617.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/DSC_0620.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/DSC_0651.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/DSC_0652.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/Ingenioren3/DSC_0654.jpg
IceCheese January 8th, 2011, 12:04 AM According to Byggeindustrien, step 3 will start construction this spring. This is good new, cause I was afraid lower sales so far on this step would delay it a bit. Expected completetion is last quarter 2012.
IceCheese January 12th, 2011, 12:56 AM Having fun with reading comments on Aftenposten's discussion boards:
Det er snakket om fallende bebyggelse mot fjorden. Det er visst en ny regel som er innført ETTER at kapitalinteressene har fått grisket til seg sin del av felleseiet. For utenfor ze BARcode kommer ytterligere en mur: Sørgenga
Yeah, finally someone who points out that Sørenga with it's whoping building heights is a wall to the rest of the city!:nuts:
Follow the debate on the gondola towers here: http://debatt.aftenposten.no/item.php?GroupID=10&ThreadID=314841&s=&page=3
Ingenioren January 12th, 2011, 04:25 PM http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0818.jpg
IceCheese January 12th, 2011, 04:35 PM Oh, look at the wall rising. That's why the cranes are so tall.
mjoks007 January 19th, 2011, 01:16 PM Et stykke Cannes? (http://oslopuls.aftenposten.no/aktivitet_friluft/article487892.ece)
Beef Jerky January 19th, 2011, 01:32 PM Den middelalderparken burde de seriøst legge ned. ingen bryr seg om steinalderen. det verste av alt er at middelalderparken ligger så godt plassert i forhold til sentrum, at det bare er idiotisk å ikke bygge noe nytt der!!!!!
Galro January 19th, 2011, 02:16 PM Den middelalderparken burde de seriøst legge ned. ingen bryr seg om steinalderen. det verste av alt er at middelalderparken ligger så godt plassert i forhold til sentrum, at det bare er idiotisk å ikke bygge noe nytt der!!!!!
Are you seriously suggesting do demolish thousand years of ruins? I can see why you could question the need to see the Akershus fortress from the park (I don't see it either), but have hard time see why you would want one of the biggest ruin parks in northern Europa along with Oslos perhaps most important outdoor concert arena, to go. It will also be a perfect location to see the barcode buildings in all their glory. Sadly the park feels a little too broken up today due to all the unused tracks in the area - it would have looked a lot better with those removed.
Why have large unbuilt areas at Vippetangen, Fjilipstad and above the tracks in Lodalen, Oslo S and generally elsewhere in the Gamlebyen.
Beef Jerky January 19th, 2011, 06:48 PM whatever....
Osloborger January 19th, 2011, 07:33 PM Den middelalderparken burde de seriøst legge ned. ingen bryr seg om steinalderen. det verste av alt er at middelalderparken ligger så godt plassert i forhold til sentrum, at det bare er idiotisk å ikke bygge noe nytt der!!!!!
No way.
City of Rain January 19th, 2011, 08:15 PM you must think that acropolis in athens is the biggest waste of space ever.. im not even going to comment on how i feel about this kind of attitude.
Galro January 19th, 2011, 09:19 PM you must think that acropolis in athens is the biggest waste of space ever.. im not even going to comment on how i feel about this kind of attitude.
And imagine the awesome car park you could build out of colosseum.
mzungu January 20th, 2011, 09:57 AM Den middelalderparken burde de seriøst legge ned. ingen bryr seg om steinalderen. det verste av alt er at middelalderparken ligger så godt plassert i forhold til sentrum, at det bare er idiotisk å ikke bygge noe nytt der!!!!!
Yeah, not to mention Akershus Festning. Imagine if we could demolish that old crap and build the biggest multi-storey parking house in Europe there! Noone would ever have a problem finding a place to park in the city centre again!
:cripes::cripes::cripes:
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"så lenge jeg har penger til tippefrister kan gjerne Karl Johan bli motorvei for meg"
- Postgirobygget
Beef Jerky January 20th, 2011, 07:57 PM And imagine the awesome car park you could build out of colosseum.
No, i like big faumous old landmarks, but i do not like that stupid little park with a stone or two....
IceCheese January 20th, 2011, 08:19 PM It's a popular park though. All year through there are always lots of people in the park, not only during the festival. For a (today) pretty horific location, the park sees a lot of use!
Ingenioren February 1st, 2011, 03:59 PM No renders available yet, but there seem to be moving forward with planning another block. Architect: Kari Nissen Brodtkorp.
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=201012463
IceCheese February 1st, 2011, 07:56 PM No renders available yet, but there seem to be moving forward with planning another block. Architect: Kari Nissen Brodtkorp.
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=201012463
According to most sources (http://www.lpo.no/prosjekter/soerenga-article297-110.html), the 4th step will be block D1b-5, by LPO, which will complete a square shaped developed area. But no renders of that one either:)
Mulefisk February 2nd, 2011, 03:02 PM No, i like big faumous old landmarks, but i do not like that stupid little park with a stone or two....
We need open green areas in central Oslo, and like others have said, Middelalderparken is especially important because of its ruins and because Øya Festivalen is held there each summer.
Ingenioren February 14th, 2011, 05:21 PM Webcam:
http://www.sorenga.no/images/ftpimage/byggetrinn1a.jpg
IceCheese February 14th, 2011, 05:48 PM ^^I noticed in todays Aftenposten, that windows have arrived. Probably not so long before we start initial walling/cladding work starting!:)
Mr. Love Architectur March 1st, 2011, 11:39 AM Yippi kay yei! cladding on Sørenga has started.
Som informert om i vårt salgsmateriale er det arbeidet med å finne frem til en egen tegl som skal brukes i alle ytre fasader på Sørenga. Slik vil Sørenga fremstå som et enhetlig byområde. Våre arkitekter har i samarbeid med Sørenga Utvikling jobbet tett sammen for å finne frem til den optimale teglsteinen for Sørenga. Etter lang forberedelse er murarbeidet nå i gang på vestfasaden mot havnepromenaden.
Teglen kommer fra fabrikken Janinhof i Tyskland, som er meget anerkjent og har erfaring med teglfasader gjennom generasjoner. Teglen er rød med duse nyanser i blått og brunt., men aller viktigst er glansen som gjør at den skiftet karakterer med lyset og fanger opp refleksjoner fra sjøen. Dette understreker tilhørigheten til Fjorden.
Teglen er testet i forhold til kulde og nærhet til sjø og i tillegg til faglig hjelp fra fabrikken i Tyskland er det engasjert fagekspertise for å påse at muringen av teglen foregår på en mest mulig profesjonell måte.
mjoks007 March 5th, 2011, 09:16 PM Sørenga reiser seg (http://dittoslo.no/bolig-i-oslo/sorenga-reiser-seg-1.6076672)
Ingenioren March 8th, 2011, 01:10 PM http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_08962.jpg
Ingenioren March 22nd, 2011, 02:50 PM Step 3:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0237.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0239.jpg
Step2:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0238.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0244.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0245.jpg
Step1:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0240.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0241.jpg
Harbour promenade:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0242.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0243.jpg
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_0249.jpg
IceCheese March 22nd, 2011, 07:22 PM ^^Next step will be put out for sale after summer, according to the newsletter that arrived today.
IceCheese April 11th, 2011, 01:50 AM I'm quoting the webcam to this page. Look at the central park/path progressing!:)
Webcam:
http://www.sorenga.no/images/ftpimage/byggetrinn1a.jpg
Galro April 11th, 2011, 01:09 PM Should we have international tread about this project too? Or is it too boring to require one? Nice with updates btw!
:)
Osloborger April 11th, 2011, 05:11 PM Should we have international tread about this project too? Or is it too boring to require one? Nice with updates btw!
:)
I don't see the point of having international threads in general, as long as the text in the "local" forums are in English.
Galro April 11th, 2011, 05:17 PM Well, they are mostly to showcase it to the world really. It's easier for foreign people who otherwise wouldn't have known about the project, to see the most exiting projects in the international forum. Then they don't have to look through lots of un-exiting projects in the local forums in case there may be something of interest. We are not the only one who use it that way.
My question is more about whether or not Sørenga is a interesting project.
:)
Osloborger April 11th, 2011, 05:53 PM Well, they are mostly to showcase it to the world really. It's easier for foreign people who otherwise wouldn't have known about the project, to see the most exiting projects in the international forum. Then they don't have to look through lots of un-exiting projects in the local forums in case there may be something of interest. We are not the only one who use it that way.
My question is more about whether or not Sørenga is a interesting project.
:)
Sørenga is very interesting IMO, even though it's a more conventional project than Tjuvholmen.
I still think that having international forums represents an unnecessary redundancy. If I want to read about New York projects, why would I care if the forum was "local" or "international"?
Galro April 11th, 2011, 06:12 PM It easier to find the interesting projects if you put them all together in one place for foreigners to find. If you travel into the to local section then you have to see through a lot of projects before you find the interesting topics. It also give some free advertisement to Oslo.
:)
Olabil April 12th, 2011, 02:21 AM I like the international forum, when i stop by its not to check out a specific project usually, but just to take a look at whats going on in the world. You also dont have to read all the discussions between local forumers, but you get a better overall view of the project. There is also not all local forums that are in English, actually most are in local languages.
I`m not sure if Sørenga is ready to go international yet though, its not the biggest project out there, so I would suggest to wait a couple of months, but thats just my thought. Anyways, you are doing a great job promoting Oslo and Norway Galro! Keep up the good work:okay:
marshol April 23rd, 2011, 10:23 PM 23.04.11
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P4231731.jpg?t=1303590135
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P4231729.jpg?t=1303590159
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P4231745.jpg?t=1303590215
Mr. Love Architectur April 27th, 2011, 11:11 AM Another great picture from MAD who are the architects for byggetrinn 2 on Sørenga. Looks promising.
http://i832.photobucket.com/albums/zz244/weidel23/doc_83_4.jpg
If someone has a proper zoom camera it would be mighty interesting to se a closeup of byggetrinn 1 as they are progressing nicely now. and from the opera or island outside of the opera i mean. so that you can see the actual bricks they have chosen and such.
bitoverflow April 27th, 2011, 12:13 PM Another great picture from MAD who are the architects for byggetrinn 2 on Sørenga. Looks promising.
Really nice rendering.
Wonder why they keep adding the bridge to the right. I understand it has been abandoned from the plans.
Ingenioren April 27th, 2011, 01:58 PM "Disse illustrasjonene er kun ment til orientering og er ikke bindende" Osv... Usual bs from developpers to fool customers.... One can always hope we will get it eventually.... :)
Osloborger April 27th, 2011, 01:58 PM Really nice rendering.
Wonder why they keep adding the bridge to the right. I understand it has been abandoned from the plans.
I don't think this is the bridge to Paulsenkaia that you are thinking of. I might be wrong, but the geometry and distance makes it look more like a bridge to the mainland part right outside Sørenga. Is it Loenga?
Edit: I just saw the other bridge behind it. Never mind this post...
Ingenioren May 4th, 2011, 03:04 PM Some early sketches of the d1b-7 plot:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03692.jpg
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03702.jpg
Galro May 4th, 2011, 03:38 PM Hm. Looks a little bit like VM-berget in Ørestad, don't you think?
Ingenioren May 4th, 2011, 04:19 PM Looks quite simular to d1b-6 if you ask me... Shame i can't seem to find anything on d1b-5, when it's supposed to start sales already this summer...
Ingenioren May 5th, 2011, 01:14 PM Step 1 and 3:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03413.jpg
Step2:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03423.jpg
Eastern promenade:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03433.jpg
Western promenade:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03443.jpg
Overviews:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03452.jpg
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03483.jpg
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03513.jpg
muster May 5th, 2011, 02:07 PM Western promenade:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_03443.jpg
I just love this view. Imagin how it will be when Bjørvika is completed :cheers:
Galro May 5th, 2011, 02:10 PM What a cool place it must be to live out at Sørenga with view to both the fjord and Barcode.
:)
Osloborger May 5th, 2011, 07:00 PM I just love this view. Imagin how it will be when Bjørvika is completed :cheers:
How come the steel pillars are rusty already when mounted? Are they not rust proof?
IceCheese May 5th, 2011, 07:10 PM No, they're not. The engineer is better at this than me, but it would rust in the salt water eitherway. The point is the rust protects the metal. Removing the rust is purely an esthetical treatment, hence unnecessary for concealed tubes.
Mulefisk May 8th, 2011, 07:04 PM Sørenga Construction update
8/7/11
So, it turns out that sneaking into the new block at Sørenga to snap some pictures on a quiet sunday is pretty easy.
Outside
http://i.imgur.com/hWh63.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HztEp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UpmBs.jpg
Inside :shocked:
http://i.imgur.com/T3gfA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/w7PuS.jpg
Inside a future apartment.
http://i.imgur.com/bLqqb.jpg
Along the waterfront
http://i.imgur.com/yxkC5.jpg
Closeup of the fabled Sørenga-brick.
http://i.imgur.com/p8o0p.jpg
Detail of the brickwork
http://i.imgur.com/KiksF.jpg
In the courtyard
http://i.imgur.com/kgXCt.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PRzbX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wRdVS.jpg
muster May 8th, 2011, 07:36 PM ^^ lol, you're such a monster! :cheers:
Are those the bricks they will use on all the buildings? Looks more colourful than expected.
Mulefisk May 8th, 2011, 07:41 PM The color will vary from block to block, but the texture and size will be the same.
IceCheese May 8th, 2011, 08:05 PM ^^ lol, you're such a monster! :cheers:
Are those the bricks they will use on all the buildings? Looks more colourful than expected.
Post #83 of this very thread shows all types... It looks as this one is the one furthest away from us in that picture: http://www.lpo.no/getfile.php/Prosjekter/052800%20S%C3%B8renga/TEGL_00-2_oversikt.JPG
Thanks for the pictures, Mule!
Mr. Love Architectur May 18th, 2011, 02:19 PM Great news and fantastic pictures on www.sørenga.no about the progress and all in all a new magazine about Sørenga.
can be seen in full at: http://www.sorenga.no/pc-123-117-Innholdsrikt-Sørenga-Magasin!.aspx
another great news which is more related to Barcode, is that steel has been mounted on Mad's apartment complex.
by the way, progress on sales report there is that 40 out of the 76 apartments are sold so far. over 50 % at least so that is a very good sign beeing that it is a good while till moving in can happen. probably 1,5 years at least i would think.
Ingenioren May 18th, 2011, 02:41 PM It's not Mad that's got steal, but Dnb C.
Ingenioren May 23rd, 2011, 03:28 PM http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0384-1.jpg
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0379-1.jpg
Galro May 24th, 2011, 03:17 PM Sørenga as seen from Operakvarteret.
http://i1179.photobucket.com/albums/x394/espeneckbo/P1010637.jpg
marshol May 31st, 2011, 02:08 AM Bonus shot from today:
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Utvikling/P5301727.jpg?t=1306800495
lotus84 May 31st, 2011, 02:54 AM How come the steel pillars are rusty already when mounted? Are they not rust proof?
I think you mean stainless steel? ;)
Ingenioren June 9th, 2011, 08:42 AM A floating pedestrian bridge to Sukkerbiten will be established during the summer. For one year it will lead to north-end of area, then it will be moved to the south-end and finally dismantled during fall of 2014.
http://web102881.pbe.oslo.kommune.no/saksinnsyn/casedet.asp?mode=all&caseno=201103688
Galro June 9th, 2011, 03:42 PM Will it be replaced with a permanent bridge after the floating one is dismantled?
Ingenioren June 9th, 2011, 03:48 PM No. Let's hope this is our "eiffel tower" tough :)
marshol June 12th, 2011, 05:14 AM Webcam:
Three webcams now! One for each trinn (1,2 and 3):
http://www.sorenga.no/c-135-Dagens-bilde.aspx
IceCheese June 12th, 2011, 06:00 AM Three webcams now! One for each trinn (1,2 and 3):
http://www.sorenga.no/c-135-Dagens-bilde.aspx
Are you sure about that? To me it looks like the same camera pointed at three angels!:)
essenze June 12th, 2011, 10:45 AM To me it looks like the same camera pointed at three angels!:)
Angels in the sky ? ;)
Galro June 13th, 2011, 02:48 PM Here is a better quality version of the render in the op (it's not new, but it haven't been shown here before as far I as could see):
http://www.lpo.no/getfile.php/Prosjekter/052800%20Sørenga/LPO_%20Sorenga_ext_yard01.jpg
Taken from LPOs homepage. http://www.lpo.no/prosjekter/soerenga-article238-110.html
Ingenioren June 15th, 2011, 05:22 PM New crane for step 3:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll218/Ingenioren/DSC_0480.jpg
Þróndeimr June 16th, 2011, 08:23 PM I will update the first post soon as i get the time now, but here are a preview of some of the renderings i got which have not been posted before.
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5475/srenga1x1000.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/889/srenga3x1000.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5016/srenga4x1000.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6397/srenga2x1000.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)
http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/6434/srengabyggetrinn39x1000.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/105/srengabyggetrinn37x1000.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)
Galro June 16th, 2011, 08:49 PM http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/6397/srenga2x1000.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)
I didn't realize there would any tight channels like this at Sørenga. Where will it be placed? I have to say that it does looks quite good. The combination of bricks and walls hitting the water like that reminds of some of the old warehouses in Christian Krohgs Gate. I hope we will see more of this.
Ingenioren June 16th, 2011, 09:12 PM ^^
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7564/hg6c.jpg
Galro June 16th, 2011, 09:40 PM So it will be the channel closest to the fjord/south then? I also see that there two other equally tight channels on your map, so that's good at least.
:)
Osloborger June 17th, 2011, 12:50 AM The pier seems to be fairly spacious. That's a good thing.
http://public.sn2.livefilestore.com/y1pd68MpPVHIgNt7yoi716gEcPnBJ1p7wj1pDLLTChLKWwD1D6uHXm-R7hseA3zkaIgpW4-srDJ1iE6Zj4Hgtozrw/WP_000112.jpg
marshol June 26th, 2011, 05:03 PM Some freshies:
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Utvikling/P6251581.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Utvikling/P6251585.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Utvikling/P6251589.jpg
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Utvikling/P6251596.jpg
Step 3:
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Utvikling/P6251588.jpg
(my photos)
marshol June 26th, 2011, 05:05 PM More promenade development:
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Utvikling/P6251590.jpg
From the other side:
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Utvikling/P6251598.jpg
(my photos)
Galro June 26th, 2011, 05:12 PM Some freshies:
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Utvikling/P6251596.jpg
(my photos)
For what it is worth, the bricks used here looks really good.
Galro July 9th, 2011, 02:22 PM Suggestions to names of the Sørenga streets and squares:
http://www.sorenga.no/images/Marketing/navnsetting%20kart%20ny_thumb.jpg
Link (http://www.sorenga.no/pc-135-117-Navnsetting-i-Bjørvika,-Bispevika--og-Lohavnområdet.aspx)
Galro July 9th, 2011, 02:24 PM The webcams (new pictures today):
Trinn 1.
http://www.sorenga.no/images/ftpimage/byggetrinn1a.jpg
Trinn 2.
http://www.sorenga.no/images/ftpimage/byggetrinn2a.jpg
Trinn 3.
http://www.sorenga.no/images/ftpimage/byggetrinn3a.jpg
IceCheese July 11th, 2011, 08:38 AM This render from MIR looks so good:drool:
http://media.aftenposten.no/archive/01504/_SCC-AIPub_G-Titte_1504355g.jpg
Aftenposten writes about the first years of Sørenga: construction, construction and construction! To me the time estimates also look pretty optimistic! http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article4166193.ece
Þróndeimr July 11th, 2011, 09:03 AM ^^ why so small when you have a larger one in the first post!!
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/1554/srenga7.jpg
Illustration by MIR (http://mir.no/)
IceCheese July 11th, 2011, 11:34 AM ^^I don't know, I just read the article!:D
Osloborger July 11th, 2011, 11:51 AM Aftenposten writes about the first years of Sørenga: construction, construction and construction! To me the time estimates also look pretty optimistic! http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/oslo/article4166193.ece
Two comments to that article:
It seems there are way too little commercial offerings planned for Sørenga.
Why should prime location areas be critizised for not providing for first time buyers?
northdiesel July 12th, 2011, 02:19 PM I might be a bit off topic here - don't know if this should be in the "operakvarteret" thread but I thought I'd try my luck here first.
I noticed this building on a render from Statens Vegvesen i regards to the article "Denne veien blir 600 millioner dyrere" posted on Nettavisen today, 12/7. http://www.nettavisen.no/motor/article3189816.ece
Do anyone know anything about this white, 15-story-ish building which seemingly continues the Barcode-principle on the other site of the Nordenga Bridge?
http://www.amtyler.com/sc/BC2015 copy.jpg
(image by Statens Vegvesen)
Galro July 12th, 2011, 02:21 PM Kulturhistorisk Museum. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=78012558&postcount=69)
northdiesel July 12th, 2011, 02:25 PM Kulturhistorisk Museum. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=78012558&postcount=69)
Thanks!
And that includes the taller building as well? Appeared to be of an office-structure.
Galro July 12th, 2011, 02:29 PM Yes, but that's not the final design apparently. Only meant to show the volumes.
Ingenioren July 12th, 2011, 04:15 PM It has a regulationplan allowing 48 meters tall (Cote 51)
IceCheese July 12th, 2011, 05:14 PM ^^But they'll need a new one. Bjørvika regulation plan demands detaljregulerings.
IceCheese July 22nd, 2011, 12:35 AM And the final dig-down today. Sørenga's developers hasn't released sh** yet, but I found some illustrations while deep-diving in Oslo muni web-archives.
D1b-5 is the block that will be put out for sales in September. We've still seen no render. Now, BYU reveals it's final volumes. And it looks massive!:eek:
(the whitest one in the middle)
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Soreng.jpg
Close-up:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Soreng2.jpg
D1b-3 and D1b-8 is merged into one project, drawn by Brodtkorb. It's the two blocks furthest south-west on the pier. This shows the volumes (with D1b-2 neigboring):
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Soreng3.jpg
How it will look from the sea (west):
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Soreng4.jpg
Venstre doesn't like that it hangs out over the boardwalk, and have put in some protests.
And the view from the canal (north):
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Soreng5.jpg
I don't really have any links to the casefiles. Only D1b-1, D1b-2 and D1b-6 are public, and they're the ones already U/C. I can see a file for D1b-7 by Jarmund/Vigsnes, though, but it's not accessible online (or anywhere?).
Galro July 22nd, 2011, 12:42 AM Looks quite good, but is it any more massive than the rest of the building mass at Sørenga? I also have to say that most of the buildings revealed to now looks very good, but sadly MAD seems to have completely fucked up their plot. I think '70s Terrasseblokker whenever I see it. I expected more from them!
IceCheese July 22nd, 2011, 12:48 AM Looks quite good, but is it any more massive than the rest of the building mass at Sørenga? I also have to say that most of the buildings revealed to now looks very good, but sadly MAD seems to have completely fucked up their plot. I think '70s Terrasseblokker whenever I see it. I expected more from them!
Note that I presented two blocks. I don't think the Brodtkorb one looks massive, but LPO's D1b-5 seems so far to be a disappointment in the making.
Galro July 22nd, 2011, 12:52 AM Okay, I didn't catch the fact that there were two blocks. So there aren't any renders of the LPO designed building in the case file?
IceCheese July 22nd, 2011, 12:55 AM Mads Sørengablock:
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/Ingenioren2/DSC_1046.jpg
This map shows (if you can read it), the name of each Sørenga-block. All of DnBNOR's Sørenga is D1b, and all the blocks have numbers from 1-8, the exception being D1a, down by the school.
IceCheese July 22nd, 2011, 12:56 AM Okay, I didn't catch the fact that there were two blocks. So there aren't any renders of the LPO designed building in the case file?
There are no casefiles. The Sørenga-developers have paid the people at PBE of to not publish any info before they say so.
Galro July 22nd, 2011, 01:00 AM Really? Why?
I made a map showing the architects assigned for each block. I think it should be fairly accurate.
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa352/ruterruter/Soreng.jpg
IceCheese July 22nd, 2011, 01:02 AM ^^As I said in post #185, Jarmund/Vigsnæs has D1b-7. The last one, D1b-4, I think belongs to MAD, cause they got two each.
mjoks007 July 22nd, 2011, 01:05 AM Venstre doesn't like that it hangs out over the boardwalk, and have put in some protests.
What does their protest say? Or do you a link to the casefile.
Galro July 22nd, 2011, 01:06 AM ^^As I said in post #185, Jarmund/Vigsnæs has D1b-7. The last one, D1b-4, I think belongs to MAD, cause they got two each.
^^ I haven't got good enough eyes to read where d1b-7 is. Is it the block farthest out on the side facing towards Ekeberg/away from the city?
IceCheese July 22nd, 2011, 01:07 AM ^^It's the southernmost one!:D
Galro July 22nd, 2011, 01:12 AM How about this then?
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa352/ruterruter/Soreng-1.jpg
:cheers:
IceCheese July 22nd, 2011, 01:12 AM What does their protest say? Or do you a link to the casefile.
The letter isn't public. This should lead you to what I read: http://www.sak.oslo.kommune.no/sru/utv_caseinfo.asp?utvalg=BUK&caseno=946601&dayno=163&Year=2011-6-8&db_source=2
Sorenga July 27th, 2011, 11:20 AM I spoke with the marketing chief at Sørenga today. She told me the D1-b3 - block is by MAD, not Brodtkorb. I also saw that there was a coarse model of the whole of Sørenga at their representational offices down at Sørenga, showing all the buildings. I'll have to try to get a picture of it for the thread when I get the time, but if any curious soul is out there it's an open invitation..
It's going to be really interesting to see the detailed renderings of D1-b3, D1-b7 and D1-b8. These are really going to be the pearls of Sørenga - indeed of Oslo - in my point of view. :okay:
Galro August 1st, 2011, 08:27 PM The temporary floating bridge from Sukkerbiten to Sørenga will open 20. August kl. 13.30 according to their homepage. Building step 4 will also be put up for sale the 19th of October.
http://www.sorenga.no/pc-136-117-Sørenga-august-2011.aspx
www.mad.no August 4th, 2011, 10:20 AM I spoke with the marketing chief at Sørenga today. She told me the D1-b3 - block is by MAD, not Brodtkorb.
This is not correct. D1-b3 is by Brodtkorb - D1-b4 is our block.
Þróndeimr August 4th, 2011, 08:15 PM ^^ thanks for clearing it up, i will add this in the first post.
marshol August 4th, 2011, 09:26 PM From Ekeberg, 04.08.11
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P8041590.jpg?t=1312485924
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/P8041591.jpg?t=1312485975
IceCheese August 7th, 2011, 07:49 PM ^^From the viewpoint on the other side of the quay:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/20110807_021.jpg
Sorenga August 15th, 2011, 05:32 PM Sorry about that. It seems I either misunderstood what she said, or that she was a bit quick when briefing me. Anyhow: Thanks for clearing it up.
Is there any more info out there? Can't IceCheese or Ingenioren dig up something juicy? I have no idea what your professional occupations are (well.. I have a hunch with Ingenioren ;) ), but you seem to be well oriented.
Anything?
IceCheese August 15th, 2011, 10:11 PM Professional occupations? You mean other than studying?!:lol: Both me and him are participants in our educational sector, that's why we have the time to update SSC.:D
If you want more fresh news from Sørenga without waiting for it, though, I'd suggest taking a trip to PBE's prime facilities in Vahls gate 1. Open to the public every day!;)
Galro August 16th, 2011, 06:15 PM Not the best pictures.
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa352/ruterruter/P1020585.jpg
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa352/ruterruter/P1020586.jpg
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa352/ruterruter/P1020592.jpg
Ingenioren August 19th, 2011, 08:53 AM Finally we can present the block number 5 (appartment step number 4):
(Sørenga)
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0596.jpg
(I believe all building-shapes in this model to be accurate.)
(Lpo)
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0600.jpg
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0601.jpg
Also renders of the pocket-park to be innaugurated during open day in less than 2 weeks:
(Strand / Løken)
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0597.jpg
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0598.jpg
IceCheese August 19th, 2011, 11:14 AM ^^And it will look even more boring when they cover it with that magnificent Sørenga-brick!:banana:
Sorenga August 19th, 2011, 03:10 PM Great! You guys are brilliant. Keep this stuff coming.
Where do you fetch it? I tried PBE and there are no renderings available.
On the other hand this design was disappointing. LPO hasn't impressed much with their designs at Sørenga if you ask me. I'm patiently waiting for the renderings from both Brodtkorb, MAD and Jarmund/Vigsnæs. Especially D1-b7 and D1-b8 will be interesting.
www.mad.no August 19th, 2011, 07:41 PM :)
Osloborger August 19th, 2011, 09:08 PM Great! You guys are brilliant. Keep this stuff coming.
Where do you fetch it? I tried PBE and there are no renderings available.
On the other hand this design was disappointing. LPO hasn't impressed much with their designs at Sørenga if you ask me. I'm patiently waiting for the renderings from both Brodtkorb, MAD and Jarmund/Vigsnæs. Especially D1-b7 and D1-b8 will be interesting.
So far, Sørenga has fallen short of Tjuvholmen the way I see it and there is really no reason why this should be the case. It seems too monotonous and reminds me of the commie buildings at Lambertseter and other "drabantbyer". The argument of creating a shared identity by using one brick type for the whole area seems poorly founded. It remains to see how it turns out of course, but I would prefer more diversity in the materials and architechture. It would still look coherent as it is being built in the same time frame and within the same master plan.
GlennHGSD August 20th, 2011, 04:38 AM I do like the idea of the container park though, with the containers filled with plants and such. Neat idea.
Galro August 20th, 2011, 04:52 PM http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.191175224252683.34836.174975992539273
http://imgs.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/sfmoms/2011/05/16/facebook_like_button_big.jpg
I'm looking forward to the design of that block.
Galro August 21st, 2011, 07:16 PM On the other hand this design was disappointing. LPO hasn't impressed much with their designs at Sørenga if you ask me.
I agree. I wish they had rather used this design on the right here they presented the masterplan with:
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa352/ruterruter/srengamirx1000.jpg
That would have been so much better imho!
Galro August 21st, 2011, 07:19 PM The webcams:
Trinn 1 (LPO):
http://sorenga.no/images/ftpimage/byggetrinn1a.jpg
Trinn 2 (MAD):
http://sorenga.no/images/ftpimage/byggetrinn2a.jpg
Trinn 3 (Jarmund/Vigsnæs):
http://sorenga.no/images/ftpimage/byggetrinn3a.jpg
Osloborger August 21st, 2011, 07:52 PM I agree. I wish they had rather used this design on the right here they presented the masterplan with:
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa352/ruterruter/srengamirx1000.jpg
That would have been so much better imho!
Sad that the end result seems to disapoint compared to the initial illustrations. I think this illustration looks much better than the all brick buildings we are getting. Hopefully I'm wrong, but does anyone think that one facade type for all blocks looks promising? Is it too late to reconsider?
Galro August 21st, 2011, 08:35 PM I'm not too bothered about the lack of color/facade material variety. If you look at the picture you quoted, then you will see that isn't much variety to spot there either. What does bother me however is the designs of some the buildings - it could have been so much better imho.
This is the only building of the ones I've seen that I really like the look of:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Soreng4.jpg
mzungu August 22nd, 2011, 11:17 AM With those dull brick facades, Sørenga will end up looking like Ijburg in Amsterdam: Nicely planned, with some elements of fancy architecture, but monotonous, uninspiring, and lethally boring!
Osloborger August 22nd, 2011, 03:53 PM With those dull brick facades, Sørenga will end up looking like Ijburg in Amsterdam: Nicely planned, with some elements of fancy architecture, but monotonous, uninspiring, and lethally boring!
Can anyone tell me who's idea it was to turn Sørenga into a one brick type area? This was not the initial plan. Was it one of the developers? To save cost?
I wish Aftenposten would create an article on this with a critical angle.
Galro August 22nd, 2011, 04:46 PM I suspect the discussion to go with one brick type was as an answer to the calls for a more homogeneous building mass at Tjuvholmen. I may be wrong, but I also believe Riks-/Byantikvaren wanted to use bricks to tie the new building mass with Akershus fortress?
Danny88 August 22nd, 2011, 04:56 PM Thats a fact
muster August 22nd, 2011, 05:11 PM Thats a fact
About time we heard something positive. Bricks are timeless and used a lot at Aker Brygge and Akershus Festning. You never hear people complain about that.
This forum have turned into a depressing state of mind. All I hear is complains and negativity. It's either about hight, or facade/materials, or the design. If there's one thing we can be sure of, there's always something to complain about. :ohno:
mjoks007 August 22nd, 2011, 05:45 PM You mean, like the guy in the beginning of the Vulkan thread? :ohno: Seriously though, is it weird that some are worried about it being to monotonous with 8 quarters, all bricks?
starkwell August 22nd, 2011, 06:13 PM i like the idea of the continuity, sometimes aker brygge can seem a bit of a mess - so i think this will be a nice contrast to the fussiness on the western side of the bay.
that said, it really demands great variation in design to prevent it looking like a big dull brick wall, that's where my concerns currently lie.
Osloborger August 22nd, 2011, 06:25 PM About time we heard something positive. Bricks are timeless and used a lot at Aker Brygge and Akershus Festning. You never hear people complain about that.
This forum have turned into a depressing state of mind. All I hear is complains and negativity. It's either about hight, or facade/materials, or the design. If there's one thing we can be sure of, there's always something to complain about. :ohno:
Bricks are used all over Lambertseter. Take a look at and see if you think it appeals to you. I have nothing against bricks in general, but the idea of using one type of brick for all facades gives me associations to commie blocks.
Galro August 22nd, 2011, 06:35 PM I don't think it is the use of bricks that makes Lambertseter seems uninviting. Brick are also used in the city hall, the fortress as well as a bunch of old industrial buildings along Akerselva, and they look great there imho.
The bricks used here are also of more stylish than the Lambertseter equivalent:
http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k439/marshol/Utvikling/P6251596.jpg
VS
http://www.hegnar.no/multimedia/archive/00043/lambertseter_sjelden_43524a.jpg
muster August 22nd, 2011, 06:43 PM You mean, like the guy in the beginning of the Vulkan thread? :ohno:
Yes, I have complained about many things, and I think Vulkan is a missed opportunity to get some real highrises spread around the citycore. But I also speak positively about many things. I feel there is a trend among some forumers to just express opinions when they have something negative to say.
Sorenga August 22nd, 2011, 08:58 PM I think it's difficult to compare Sørenga to either Aker brygge or even Tjuvholmen. I agree, it's a completely different aesthetical expression, but I really like the fact that they are building it in bricks. I just hope that they will open the buildings up to let in enough light. Not only between the blocks and inside the blocks, because this is well regulated by PBE. I hope they will have apartment facades with lots of glass windows, opening them up to the sea. The buildings D1-b3, D1-b7 and D1-b8 will be facing south and southwest, and would benefit the most from this. I'm looking forward to more detailed renderings..
Mulefisk August 22nd, 2011, 09:49 PM Considering the price people are willing to pay for sunlight, I don't think this will be a problem in Sørenga.
bitoverflow August 31st, 2011, 08:27 PM Anyone know if they are on track on step 1?
Completion is scheduled to October.
IceCheese September 1st, 2011, 02:19 PM Finally posting the pictures from this Sunday!
First overview render found on site. Note the design on D1b-4, the second MAD-quarter, which we haven't seen in this thread before.
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Srengatotal.jpg
Look at those bricks. How is it possible to make them so... SUPER!!:drool:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Srengamurstein.jpg
So to some pics. Starting with step 1:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika11/DSC01983.jpg
Step 2:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika11/DSC01984.jpg
and Step 3:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika11/DSC01985.jpg
Close-up on the bricks of step 1:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika11/DSC01986.jpg
Looking into the basement of step 3:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika11/DSC01987.jpg
Many bricks! Carefull not to stumble into them: :wallbash:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika11/DSC01988.jpg
Still a lot of masonry remaining, yes. Seems like they have theire hands full if bitoverflow's estimate is correct:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika11/DSC01989.jpg
Outer canal:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika11/DSC01994.jpg
Boardwalk:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika11/DSC01995.jpg
Basement of step 2:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Bjorvika11/DSC01997.jpg
So then we were around. Check out the other threads as well for more fun fun fun fun!:cheers:
Galro September 1st, 2011, 02:22 PM MADs second block looks cool! And those bricks are superb! So were your pictures too.
Mr. Love Architectur September 14th, 2011, 06:20 PM Great news!
One building in step one is now completly uncovered. Close up pics of this would be fantastic if anybody could spear the time. I can see the development each day when going to work from Nordstrand, but have to say this looks great. Fantastic colours in the bricks that are used. Looking forward to seeing the whole block uncovered.
Ingenioren September 16th, 2011, 10:00 PM Super-bricks revealed... :) -Hardly decent picture but i screwed up with the battery of the slr... :P
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0690-1.jpg
Galro September 17th, 2011, 03:26 PM Looks like concrete in your pictures. How did it look up close? Did it have quality feeling?
Ingenioren September 17th, 2011, 05:34 PM They look good yes.
dexter26 September 18th, 2011, 04:16 PM Nice that it's quality bricks, but the whole Sørenga project looks too square for my taste, as a whole. At least put in *one* more unique building to break up the monotony, in my opinion.
Galro September 18th, 2011, 05:38 PM ^^ I think the later building steps will break with this "squareness" you speak of. Take a look at the buildings on the right here:
http://i1126.photobucket.com/albums/l608/ingenioren4/DSC_0596.jpg
muster September 18th, 2011, 05:52 PM ^^ I think the overview Icecheese posted is the correct one. It is a bit squary, but I have seen worse.
Galro September 18th, 2011, 05:56 PM ^^ Doubt it as it don't include this block from Jarmund/Vigsnæs:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.191175224252683.34836.174975992539273
Or this building from Kari Nissen Brodtkorb:
http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o309/IceCheese/Soreng4.jpg
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