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mattec
October 6th, 2009, 04:57 AM
I know it's going to be in Angola, does anyone have any pictures of the stadiums they plan to use?
:)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GrlH2TQIEdI/SPPKxf_Vb5I/AAAAAAAAI68/gymHTNPxi0w/s400/cocan.JPG

hngcm
October 6th, 2009, 07:27 AM
I've always wondered why they host it in World Cup years...

TEBC
October 6th, 2009, 05:52 PM
I know it's going to be in Angola, does anyone have any pictures of the stadiums they plan to use?
:)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_GrlH2TQIEdI/SPPKxf_Vb5I/AAAAAAAAI68/gymHTNPxi0w/s400/cocan.JPG

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1489

TEBC
October 6th, 2009, 05:54 PM
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7356/motorolla0909118.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9638/motorolla0909120.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6006/motorolla0909121.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2510/motorolla0909122.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/336/motorolla0909107.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8782/motorolla0909108.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/image0042wkwg.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/image00437wjg.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/image0044q79y.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/image0045hjjs.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/image0046zv2o.jpg

from: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=646693&page=17

mattec
October 6th, 2009, 11:17 PM
Thanx

Aka
October 7th, 2009, 12:52 AM
Actually, it's just CAN 2010 (Taça de África das Nações Orange – ANGOLA 2010). CO stands for organizing committee.

Being this the official logo:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2e/Angola_2010_Logo.jpg

Aka
October 7th, 2009, 01:14 AM
This was taken from the Angolan forum and I think it's a bit dated, yet...

BENGUELA:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46371000/jpg/_46371231_beng_stad09-09_766b.jpg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46371000/jpg/_46371230_beng_stad09-09_766a.jpg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46371000/jpg/_46371232_beng_stad09-09_341a.jpg

LUBANGO:

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46371000/jpg/_46371233_lubango_stad09-09_766a.jpg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46371000/jpg/_46371234_lubango_stad09-09_766b.jpg
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46371000/jpg/_46371235_lubango_stad09-09_766c.jpg



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/8253430.stm


Benguela:

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1787/can001976.jpg

1772
October 7th, 2009, 07:41 AM
I've always wondered why they host it in World Cup years...

I dont think they always do, but nontheless, they have it in february, in the middle of the league seasons...

Cool stadium!

Livno80101
October 7th, 2009, 12:44 PM
I dont think they always do, but nontheless, they have it in february, in the middle of the league seasons...

Cool stadium!

It is held every TWO years, and it is held in January and February because that is coolest time, temperatures are lowest in Africa in that time of year, just imagine CAN in June or July under 45 degrees Celsius.

And I cant wait CAN to start, it is going to be great tournament :nuts:

Aka
October 11th, 2009, 05:45 PM
Benguela:

http://www.can-angola2010.com/ucm_can/groups/public/documents/library/can_002016.jpg

DennisRodman97
October 11th, 2009, 05:54 PM
http://resizepic.com/_pics_/20090822095202can-2010-600x600.jpg

DennisRodman97
October 11th, 2009, 05:57 PM
Some renders


http://resizepic.com/_pics_/Estadio%20CAN%20-%20Luanda-600x600.jpg

Aka
October 11th, 2009, 08:22 PM
Luanda:

http://www.suakay.com/fotos/galerias/s1_1239958903.jpg

http://www.suakay.com/fotos/galerias/s0_1239958893.jpg

http://www.suakay.com/fotos/galerias/s2_1239958914.jpg

http://www.suakay.com/fotos/galerias/s3_1239958926.jpg

http://www.suakay.com/fotos/galerias/s4_1239958939.jpg


Benguela:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46370000/jpg/_46370660_benguela_artist_766.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ule4PN3waiA/SlMT71XI6EI/AAAAAAAAANs/hLDInTNMZK0/s1600/can2010-estadio-de-benguela-2.jpg


Cabinda:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_D1PVZMPc5vM/SkKWxCBho5I/AAAAAAAADwU/yrZTAx_Ga54/s1600/Cabinda-Est%C3%A1dio%2BNovo.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_D1PVZMPc5vM/SkKgB0nx1HI/AAAAAAAADw8/fClxR4oQfpQ/s1600/can2010-estadio-de-cabinda-2.jpg


Lubango:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D1PVZMPc5vM/SkKWw6SwMAI/AAAAAAAADwM/e9yEKiFRkBU/s1600/Lubango-Est%C3%A1dio.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_D1PVZMPc5vM/SkKgCZM7Z4I/AAAAAAAADxM/tpBoTpsxU9I/s400/can2010-estadio-do-lubango-2.jpg





But I wouldn't expect more than the stadiums themselves for now...

Mo Rush
October 11th, 2009, 10:12 PM
The African Cup of Athletics?

TEBC
October 11th, 2009, 11:58 PM
The African Cup of Athletics?

I think they are taking the chance to bulit athletics stadiums because of the lack of sports infrastructure in the country. But I think at least Luanda could have a soccer-only stadium.

Aka
October 12th, 2009, 12:52 AM
But then the major city wouldn't have a stadium for track and field competitions.

bigbossman
October 12th, 2009, 01:21 AM
But then the major city wouldn't have a stadium for track and field competitions.

So? There is no country that needs more than one (or two) main ahtletics stadium(s), the rest can be down sized. Most of them won't see use no doubt.

Aka
October 12th, 2009, 02:09 AM
Oh c'mon!!! Angola had a civil war for decades and now they're trying to rebuild their country. Giving their population structures of development - in this case of sports - is such a bad thing? Do you guys have to complain about everything??? Geez...

TEBC
October 12th, 2009, 03:45 AM
Oh c'mon!!! Angola had a civil war for decades and now they're trying to rebuild their country. Giving their population structures of development - in this case of sports - is such a bad thing? Do you guys have to complain about everything??? Geez...

The problem is that they are building everything without giving people chance to use it. Take Lubango´s Palancas Negras Arena, After Afrobasket turned into a garbage storage. But I think CAN will be different, those cities need new sports facilities, but the best of all is the social legacy, like new hotels, hospitals and etc

Escalabitano
October 12th, 2009, 12:59 PM
Go Angola :banana:

rsol2000
October 12th, 2009, 03:39 PM
Não sabia que Angola estava tão desenvolvida! Bom para o mundo Luso! Go Angola! :)

schmidt
October 12th, 2009, 04:12 PM
Honestly, I'm impressed!

Chiricano
October 12th, 2009, 06:12 PM
good..

Chimbanha
October 12th, 2009, 10:06 PM
Congratulations to our irmãos angolanos. Those are some beautiful stadiums, I really hope they're totally ready in time for the Cup. I also hope that those stadiums help the development of the sport in the country.

That is absolutely superior to anything used as a venue in our Copa América.

matts67
October 12th, 2009, 11:48 PM
I have a question for experts: what's the point of having 5 or 6 new stadiums of 30000+ capacity in a country with an athletics track around? Is there really any chance that those cities like Lubango or Benguela will host track and field events that could attract that many people sometime??
Because if the answer is no, I really don't see the point...

samba_man
October 13th, 2009, 01:06 AM
As a Brazilian i am so happy to see Angola improving on your infrastructures, and growing so fast!

VAMOS PALANCAS-NEGRAS! :rock:

DennisRodman97
October 13th, 2009, 01:25 AM
Luanda:

http://www.suakay.com/fotos/galerias/s1_1239958903.jpg

http://www.suakay.com/fotos/galerias/s0_1239958893.jpg

http://www.suakay.com/fotos/galerias/s2_1239958914.jpg

http://www.suakay.com/fotos/galerias/s3_1239958926.jpg

http://www.suakay.com/fotos/galerias/s4_1239958939.jpg


Benguela:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/46370000/jpg/_46370660_benguela_artist_766.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ule4PN3waiA/SlMT71XI6EI/AAAAAAAAANs/hLDInTNMZK0/s1600/can2010-estadio-de-benguela-2.jpg


Cabinda:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_D1PVZMPc5vM/SkKWxCBho5I/AAAAAAAADwU/yrZTAx_Ga54/s1600/Cabinda-Est%C3%A1dio%2BNovo.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_D1PVZMPc5vM/SkKgB0nx1HI/AAAAAAAADw8/fClxR4oQfpQ/s1600/can2010-estadio-de-cabinda-2.jpg


Lubango:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D1PVZMPc5vM/SkKWw6SwMAI/AAAAAAAADwM/e9yEKiFRkBU/s1600/Lubango-Est%C3%A1dio.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_D1PVZMPc5vM/SkKgCZM7Z4I/AAAAAAAADxM/tpBoTpsxU9I/s400/can2010-estadio-do-lubango-2.jpg





But I wouldn't expect more than the stadiums themselves for now...

This are the best set of stadiums ever used for the nations cup.....other african nations should copy this.

Aka
October 13th, 2009, 01:58 AM
Yet, I think the renders look better than what reality will show. At least for now.

TEBC
October 13th, 2009, 03:00 AM
I have a question for experts: what's the point of having 5 or 6 new stadiums of 30000+ capacity in a country with an athletics track around? Is there really any chance that those cities like Lubango or Benguela will host track and field events that could attract that many people sometime??
Because if the answer is no, I really don't see the point...

read last page...:)

Aka
November 11th, 2009, 12:18 AM
Also from the Angolan forum:

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/10/45/1,decafbed-6d2f-44f8-9aaa-9767f0425f27.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/10/46/1,d2e8d2ad-5999-43f8-b6ce-fa0ed955be79.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/10/45/1,227f3494-89ae-40d6-afc1-1c8ea7357d1a.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/10/45/1,28fa88b8-2b7e-462f-ba7c-190378efa86f.jpg

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3508/campobenguelagaleria.jpg

rafamlopes
November 11th, 2009, 03:29 AM
^^ beautiful stadiums..I´m impressed with angola!
It´s an amazing project!

haggiesm
November 11th, 2009, 08:39 AM
very cool progress in luanda.

passionate saffer
November 11th, 2009, 07:21 PM
luvvvvvvvvvvvvv it

hkskyline
November 12th, 2009, 05:38 PM
Angola's TAAG opens flights to Havana, Cape Town
10 November 2009
Agence France Presse

Angola's national carrier, banned from flying within the EU, has begun direct flights to Cape Town and plans a new service to Havana, state media said Tuesday.

"From December TAAG will start direct flights to Havana, capital of Cuba," national radio said, adding that the Cape Town route was already operating.

TAAG, which is banned from flying within the European Union except to Lisbon because of safety concerns, on Monday made the first of its two flights a week to the South African city on a Boeing 737.

"We are optimistic that we will be sending full flights from Luanda to Cape Town and have full flights from Cape Town to Luanda," TAAG spokesman Rui Carreira said.

"It is an important tourist destination in South Africa and many oil company employees who work in Angola use Cape Town as a hub to get back to their country of origin."

The Cape Town link will also offer a new travel options to fans travelling to the 2010 Africa Cup of Nations in Angola in January.

The route to Havana will help transport the thousands of Cuban teachers and doctors who are currently working in the southern African country.

However the new flights come as TAAG reduces its flight frequency to Lisbon, its only European destination.

According to newspaper and radio announcements, the airline will now run just one daily flight to the Portuguese capital during November, not two as before, for unspecified "operational reasons".

corredor06
November 12th, 2009, 09:24 PM
Great stadiums for Angola

Aka
November 16th, 2009, 07:29 PM
Luanda:

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/highlight/2009/10/46/0,88de0e8d-e842-490a-9818-484fb8a56fcf.jpg

passionate saffer
November 16th, 2009, 08:22 PM
looking good

rafamlopes
November 17th, 2009, 03:57 AM
classy

Aka
November 17th, 2009, 07:42 PM
That's a quite dated picture and I really don't know in what way that has to do with this.

Axelferis
November 17th, 2009, 09:56 PM
Luanda:

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/highlight/2009/10/46/0,88de0e8d-e842-490a-9818-484fb8a56fcf.jpg

And what about roads, hotels and others basical things required for such type of competitions??

Some rumors said that even if certain stadiums are finished, it's not at all the case of structures

Aka
November 17th, 2009, 11:45 PM
This is not a FIFA World Cup. But hey! If things go wrong they can do it all in the new Lille stadium.

Chimbanha
November 18th, 2009, 12:15 AM
This is not a FIFA World Cup. But hey! If things go wrong they can do it all in the new Lille stadium.

The 60,000 seater that will cost 3 billion? :lol: God, you French need more immigrants to do this kind of work...

1772
November 18th, 2009, 10:53 AM
Wow! I loved the Luanda-stadium. Who made that?

Aka
November 18th, 2009, 11:05 PM
From Angolan forum:

Fotos tiradas em: 18 de Novembro de 2009

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5786/dsc03688z.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2897/dsc03692e.jpg

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5073/dsc03697u.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5841/dsc03699e.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3040/dsc03700c.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3010/dsc03701o.jpg

Mais algumas fotos tiradas no mesmo dia...Infelizmente nao me deixaram entrar...

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3599/dsc03693g.jpg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7069/dsc03714.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1859/dsc03723e.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3412/dsc03702v.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1127/dsc03721c.jpg


From what I read, it looks like the facade will be finished only around mid-December. That's why it seems a bit far from being finished.

Aka
November 18th, 2009, 11:07 PM
Wow! I loved the Luanda-stadium. Who made that?

Urbinvest, Arup Sport-Ar, Mário Sua Kay Arquitecto and China National Electronics Impor e Export Corporation (CEIEC).

1772
November 19th, 2009, 10:43 AM
Urbinvest, Arup Sport-Ar, Mário Sua Kay Arquitecto and China National Electronics Impor e Export Corporation (CEIEC).

I was more thinking about the design.

Aka
November 19th, 2009, 02:17 PM
I was more thinking about the design.

It's there...

Search for Sua Kay.

1772
November 19th, 2009, 03:46 PM
It's there...

Search for Sua Kay.

Thanks.

Qinuito
November 21st, 2009, 06:14 PM
Is it possible to visit the CAN if you are not supporter of one of qualified teams? Is there a internet adress where you can find information about this? Thanks in advance.

Aka
November 21st, 2009, 06:45 PM
Is it possible to visit the CAN if you are not supporter of one of qualified teams? Is there a internet adress where you can find information about this? Thanks in advance.

Yeah. I mean, CAN tickets don't work exactly like in a Euro or a World Cup. You just go to the stadium and buy the tickets.

www.can-angola2010.com (http://www.can-angola2010.com/index.htm)

Qinuito
November 23rd, 2009, 12:03 AM
Yeah. I mean, CAN tickets don't work exactly like in a Euro or a World Cup. You just go to the stadium and buy the tickets.

www.can-angola2010.com (http://www.can-angola2010.com/index.htm)

Thanks for the info

Aka
November 23rd, 2009, 04:26 PM
http://www.can-angola2010.com/ucm_can/groups/public/documents/library/can_002617.jpg

Aka
November 25th, 2009, 03:18 PM
Qinuito,


"2 - Bilhetes à venda no final de Novembro
Os bilhetes começam a ser vendidos no final do mês, mas segundo o Angonotícias desde Julho que há 200 mil bilhetes à venda na internet. Custam entre 1.680 e 8.500 kwanzas (13 e 66 euros), mas para a abertura, os melhores bilhetes rondam os 21.200 e 13.700 kwanzas (entre 165 e 107 euros). No último jogo, o mais caro custam 13.700 kwanzas (107 euros)."


Tickets sale starting by the end of November. Yet, according to Angonotícias, there have been 200.000 tickets on the internet since July (I really don't know where).

Prices:
Normal matches - 1680 to 85.000 kwanza (13 to 66 euro)
Opening - 13.700 to 21.200 kwanza (107 to 165 euro)
Final - the most expensive costs 13.700 kwanza (107 euro)


Oh! And if you need a visa to Angola you have to do it until December 7.

Neda Say
November 28th, 2009, 02:53 PM
I'm more than impressed! Way to go Angola!

Axelferis
November 28th, 2009, 03:27 PM
that's the way this competition should take forever for stadiums design!!! but it reflects the power of your economy! Angola has enough petrol to realize it now! You can have the same for Mali or Benin for example!
I hope the grass quality will not suffer too much!

Blue Lou
November 29th, 2009, 02:20 AM
To the people asking about the Athletic Tracks... I think it's because they are bidding for the All African Games in 2015.

Aka
November 29th, 2009, 03:19 PM
The grass will be ready within three weeks:

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/highlight/2009/10/48/0,4ff22cde-7775-4f0c-9323-91ed7f1ebd44.jpg

Aka
December 5th, 2009, 04:44 PM
Benguela:

http://www.can-angola2010.com/ucm_can/groups/public/documents/library/can_002841.jpg

TEBC
December 7th, 2009, 05:05 PM
http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,9d9ff4e8-dbcf-40d9-8783-7eafeee0dd21.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,37a44879-804f-4910-b401-21c42f826006.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,a76a5e10-28f1-41ac-9dfa-62992cdebdbd.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,d54d5744-8dbb-477e-a84c-20f68bb0afa4.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,d09b3497-d36e-4d56-a03e-95cd50e61bef.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,a8c86209-c420-46b2-8d3a-5008f706614f.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,fef9297b-b66a-4a76-b551-8a8ea29811bc.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,2fb92013-5898-4b91-b301-71f1cfeacc28.jpg

TEBC
December 7th, 2009, 05:05 PM
http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,18166a47-74c1-4893-859e-d8de18d21d09.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,5e26f9d8-dd87-4aee-91af-33307192bb7c.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,31514977-c4f2-4fa3-8c1e-68a650171bf2.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,47ebc945-d612-4ecd-a97a-51049b4f865b.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,143dc6db-90a6-443d-847c-5ac602f5370d.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,5b8c7455-495f-4460-9bbc-6327a063b5dd.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,eb5043c7-631e-490c-9ba1-5a4005a52738.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,75012ea7-8ae4-4a77-9cbd-828a6a25cf62.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,68bcfbe0-062e-432f-8cbc-cb6ac607b43a.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,b289c0f9-b4f5-40e4-b376-c70326b85827.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,0db399f9-2e09-4f8b-bc86-4d87044dd2bd.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,61a39ea3-8913-4221-8c90-4efbf0a0412c.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,2f1594ae-1cf9-415a-b1f6-edfc3b4924e4.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,efd07282-7e28-4eba-bdec-c236df62c935.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,c4d300da-1631-4a38-9f55-a0e7092fcfcb.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,89bab977-1e0b-42ba-a4c1-b207b58664ca.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,4b650783-3741-4054-a2f4-6484bea833d9.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,aa9cc15f-1ffc-487f-a831-91a62ad10cad.jpg

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/49/1,d2cbb814-7a5a-4e2c-9110-bcf28d35b2a4.jpg

Axelferis
December 7th, 2009, 06:54 PM
very impressive stadium :applause:

But when will it be finished?? 10 january starts this competition??!!

Aka
December 8th, 2009, 04:11 AM
The stadiums will be opened by the end of the month.

Aka
December 8th, 2009, 05:08 AM
Lubango:

http://www.can-angola2010.com/ucm_can/groups/public/documents/library/can_002839.jpg

Aka
December 8th, 2009, 05:25 AM
http://www.can-angola2010.com/ucm_can/groups/public/documents/library/can_002838.jpg

bing222
December 8th, 2009, 09:28 AM
Nice photos

Axelferis
December 8th, 2009, 07:38 PM
Lubango:

http://www.can-angola2010.com/ucm_can/groups/public/documents/library/can_002839.jpg


This is not the original design no?

Aka
December 8th, 2009, 09:54 PM
This is not the original design no?

It is:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_D1PVZMPc5vM/SkKWw6SwMAI/AAAAAAAADwM/e9yEKiFRkBU/s1600/Lubango-Est%C3%A1dio.jpg

You just don't have the track (yet) and the surroundings.



http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/10/45/1,28fa88b8-2b7e-462f-ba7c-190378efa86f.jpg

Of course it looks much better on the renders, but I told you to expect that.

Aka
December 10th, 2009, 01:04 AM
From the Angolan Forum:


Fotos do estádio de Lubango de autoria de Pong, tiradas no dia 04-12-09
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4452/stadiumn.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6656/stadium1.jpg

Fizmo1337
December 10th, 2009, 04:59 PM
All 4 of them are very well designed, rly like them. Without the athetlic track I fear for the atmosphere but still very good stadiums.

They will have to hurry up, it starts in 1-2 month.

Aka
December 15th, 2009, 04:08 PM
Quite a distance between those seats.

http://www.can-angola2010.com/ucm_can/groups/public/documents/library/can_002988.jpg

Aka
December 16th, 2009, 04:06 PM
http://www.can-angola2010.com/ucm_can/groups/public/documents/library/can_002926.jpg

http://www.correiodigital.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/20091031115530estadio.jpg

Estadio Nacional do Chiazi

Faltam 25 dias!!



http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f357/ShichiAkaAkuma/EstadioAngola.jpg

Aka
December 17th, 2009, 02:50 PM
http://www.can-angola2010.com/ucm_can/groups/public/documents/library/can_003047.jpg

Mo Rush
December 17th, 2009, 05:07 PM
From Daylife, eles dizem que e de Dec. 14, 2009 mas eu nao acredito, deve ser de Novembro...

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6370/610xxt.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/610xxt.jpg/)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7724/610xdb.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/610xdb.jpg/)


http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7079/610xd.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/610xd.jpg/)

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9476/610xfr.jpg (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/610xfr.jpg/)

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9639/610xxo.jpg (http://img192.imageshack.us/i/610xxo.jpg/)








Courtesy of Kizaca

Aka
December 17th, 2009, 06:35 PM
Oh! And if people are wondering, yeah, that's the facade final design.

Aka
December 17th, 2009, 06:40 PM
So these pictures are already dated (around a month old).

Fotos da BBC world, cortesia de Giltiny.

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1878/kamama1.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1838/kamama2.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3651/kamama3.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/517/kamama4.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4189/kamama5.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6952/kamama6.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/7868/kamama7.jpg

Fotos tiradas há 1 mês.

Aka
December 20th, 2009, 06:43 PM
Angolan Forum:

Pictures by Angop :cheers:


Lubango Stadium



http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6857/20091220093856cane.jpg


Benguela Stadium

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2593/1262827e4d33149ce80b234.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/1262827e4d33149ce80b234.jpg/)

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/7443/192e7ecad39e348b9aba9ea.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/192e7ecad39e348b9aba9ea.jpg/)

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6440/1a65205153ec4421db293e6.jpg (http://img704.imageshack.us/i/1a65205153ec4421db293e6.jpg/)

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9894/10e6d0c8fce8641c9ada7ed.jpg (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/10e6d0c8fce8641c9ada7ed.jpg/)

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/1340/1d48bd1929edd472c9286fev.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/1d48bd1929edd472c9286fev.jpg/)

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2478/1a0f8c42939bd44639aac00.jpg (http://img705.imageshack.us/i/1a0f8c42939bd44639aac00.jpg/)


http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/832/13985761a555f44fc80abd4.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/13985761a555f44fc80abd4.jpg/)

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6104/1b12a707ae8974df583cf3e.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/1b12a707ae8974df583cf3e.jpg/)

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5169/146bd7386faf247cea902ce.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/146bd7386faf247cea902ce.jpg/)

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7772/16228ef81487044fcaa132d.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/16228ef81487044fcaa132d.jpg/)

Exterior of the Stadium

definitely need better painting! :lol:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7536/15bf0143ae0d1479995cb1e.jpg (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/15bf0143ae0d1479995cb1e.jpg/)

Parking lot for the Stadium
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6782/1a7844bff57014594bc0d14.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/1a7844bff57014594bc0d14.jpg/)

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2963/1ce341db9de844b4a99fb09.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/1ce341db9de844b4a99fb09.jpg/)


:banana:

Benguela Stadium is just awsome! :cheers:

Didier-Dro
December 20th, 2009, 07:45 PM
beautiful pix! these are the best set of stadiums used for the african nations cup in decades.

Livno80101
December 20th, 2009, 11:35 PM
great work, Angolans, great stadiums...if only my city (Zagreb, Croatia) had one stadium like this :nuts:

C.M.
December 22nd, 2009, 12:19 AM
Angola has 4 impressive stadiums which will be used for the first time for the Africa Cup of nations starting in 3 weeks.

Does anyone know the capacity on these stadiums?

Gully Side
December 22nd, 2009, 12:45 AM
Angola has 4 impressive stadiums which will be used for the first time for the Africa Cup of nations starting in 3 weeks.

Does anyone know the capacity on these stadiums?

It goes 40 000 for Lunda then I think 25 000 for the others.

Aka
December 22nd, 2009, 01:00 AM
Luanda: 50k
Benguela: 35k
Cabinda: 20k
Lubango: 20k

Didier-Dro
December 22nd, 2009, 02:24 AM
hey aka any news portugal will be training in angola or even playing friendlies at these stadiums before departing to south africa.

Aka
December 22nd, 2009, 03:59 AM
Angola and Mozambique made their invitations. Yet, FPF has still to decide where they'll go. It could be one of those two or any other place.

Aka
December 24th, 2009, 12:10 AM
Official match ball:


http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/adidas-CAF-Africa-Cup-of-Nations-2010-ghana-Jabulani-match-ball.jpg


http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/adidas-CAF-Africa-Cup-of-Nations-2010-angola-Jabulani-match-ball.jpg

Didier-Dro
December 24th, 2009, 12:34 AM
i thought that was the world cup ball jubalani.

Aka
December 24th, 2009, 12:35 AM
i thought that was the world cup ball jubalani.

Take a better look.

TEBC
December 24th, 2009, 01:30 AM
Angola has 4 impressive stadiums which will be used for the first time for the Africa Cup of nations starting in 3 weeks.

Does anyone know the capacity on these stadiums?

40000 for luanda
25000 for the others

Aka
December 24th, 2009, 02:03 AM
40000 for luanda
25000 for the others

Luanda: 50k
Benguela: 35k
Cabinda: 20k
Lubango: 20k

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Demarco
December 24th, 2009, 03:27 AM
Official match ball:


http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/adidas-CAF-Africa-Cup-of-Nations-2010-ghana-Jabulani-match-ball.jpg


http://www.footballshirtculture.com/images/adidas-CAF-Africa-Cup-of-Nations-2010-angola-Jabulani-match-ball.jpg

The ball looks very nice. Was hoping the first ever sight of the jabulani would be at the 2010 WC. But I guess a first big test event wouldn't hurt at the African Cup of Nations. :)

Didier-Dro
December 24th, 2009, 03:55 AM
thats cool tho

Aka
December 24th, 2009, 05:23 AM
The ball looks very nice. Was hoping the first ever sight of the jabulani would be at the 2010 WC. But I guess a first big test event wouldn't hurt at the African Cup of Nations. :)

Actually, they've been using it in some leagues already.

Kwazimoto
December 25th, 2009, 05:58 AM
That's one grand looking ball, it is by the way jabulani, only this version will come, in the "3 colours of the national flag of angola"

Aka
December 26th, 2009, 02:59 PM
Opening tomorrow.



Estádio 11 de Novembro é inaugurado domingo

O estádio Nacional 11 de Novembro, em Luanda, será inaugurado no próximo domingo (27/12), às 18 horas, pelo Presidente da República, José Eduardo dos Santos.

Convidados do governo angolano como do desporto nacional se farão presentes.

A cerimónia será coroada de festa, com encenação de quadros humanos, coreografia de marcha olímpica, show da cantora Pérola, coreografia de ginástica rítmica, apresentação do cantor Matias Damásio, saltos de tumbling e show do cantor Felipe Mukenga, que vai interpretar o hino da Taça, “Angola País de Futuro”.
O estádio Nacional 11 de Novembro, com capacidade para 50 mil adeptos, é o maior entre os quatro estádios construídos de raiz para a Taça de África das Nações Orange – Angola 2010, que decorre de 10 a 31 de Janeiro.

Para segunda-feira, 28 de Dezembro, está agendada a inauguração do estádio Ombaka, em Benguela; seguindo-se o estádio da Tundavala, no Lubango, no dia 29; e o estádio do Chiazi, na cidade de Cabinda, no dia 30.http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/2237/can003269.jpg

Aka
December 26th, 2009, 03:00 PM
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6043/20091226091522estadio.jpg (http://img199.imageshack.us/i/20091226091522estadio.jpg/)

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6268/0ef6cdaf89cc645fcb8afa4.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/0ef6cdaf89cc645fcb8afa4.jpg/)

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/4021/20091226100616esta.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/20091226100616esta.jpg/)
:cheers:

Foto da Visita do Ministro da Comunicacao Social em 25/12/2009

Cabinda Stadium

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9065/20091224085841estadio20.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/20091224085841estadio20.jpg/)

It is the most advanced stadium in terms of completion. :banana:

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Demarco
December 26th, 2009, 06:52 PM
Aka your saying the Stadium is completed tomorrow? The track isn't even laid though. How about the landscaping??

Aka
December 26th, 2009, 07:11 PM
Aka your saying the Stadium is completed tomorrow? The track isn't even laid though. How about the landscaping??

Do you need a track and landscape during a football tournament? What for?

Demarco
December 26th, 2009, 08:04 PM
Do you need a track and landscape during a football tournament? What for?

Well it would look nicer. Plus if this was the fifa world cup they would have to.

Aka
December 26th, 2009, 08:32 PM
Why? Are they going to use South African tracks?

Demarco
December 26th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Fifa wouldn't want a half finished track or half finished landscape for the 2010 world cup. Its either they dont put it in or they finish it, no in between.

I know this is the African Cup of Nations and they are less strick about their rules than in the Wc.

Didier-Dro
December 26th, 2009, 10:45 PM
lovely pics, aka any news on the broadcasters of the cup of nations or we gonna watch it from the internet.

Aka
December 27th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Fifa wouldn't want a half finished track or half finished landscape for the 2010 world cup. Its either they dont put it in or they finish it, no in between.

I know this is the African Cup of Nations and they are less strick about their rules than in the Wc.

Don't get me wrong, but why would FIFA even care about a track? I mean, most of the times they even cover it, like they did for the 2002 FIFA World Cup (but not in 2006). I remember that for Euro 2004 (yeah, it's not FIFA), Leiria's stadium didn't have the track installed.

And why would they need a nice landscape? You mean that a stadium with an ugly landscape can't host World Cup matches? If you mean roads and accesses then that's OK... but landscape?!

This is not a beauty contest.

Aka
December 27th, 2009, 12:43 AM
lovely pics, aka any news on the broadcasters of the cup of nations or we gonna watch it from the internet.

Do you have Eurosport?

IronMan89
December 27th, 2009, 02:11 AM
In France i think it's not gonna be on Eurosport unfortunately

Aka
December 27th, 2009, 02:43 AM
In France i think it's not gonna be on Eurosport unfortunately

If not, that must mean that another broadcaster bought the rights for the French territory.

Demarco
December 27th, 2009, 07:55 AM
Don't get me wrong, but why would FIFA even care about a track? I mean, most of the times they even cover it, like they did for the 2002 FIFA World Cup (but not in 2006). I remember that for Euro 2004 (yeah, it's not FIFA), Leiria's stadium didn't have the track installed.

And why would they need a nice landscape? You mean that a stadium with an ugly landscape can't host World Cup matches? If you mean roads and accesses then that's OK... but landscape?!

This is not a beauty contest.

Ya fifa rules are messed.

Why have a beautiful stadium with a nasty incompleted outside? It is a beauty contest honestly. The stadium will get you the passing grade but the landscaping will get you the A..lol

Mo Rush
December 27th, 2009, 02:29 PM
The space outside a venue is critical too.

The exact area around the stadium needs to fall within a certain secure zone, which is monitored 24/7.

Broadcasters need to setup their huge OB trucks and vans for broadcasting from the venue, and therefore need a broadcast compound.

Most venues also require a media centre larger than what is provided inside the venue and so for a WC in particular another 4,000sqm of dedicated space is required.

For a WC the list goes on and on. Corporate hospitality areas, sponsors areas, commercial affiliates etc. These are all large dedicated spaces outside the venue which are as important as the operations of the venue.

So, while landscaping is a minor issues, the availability and safety of these spaces is important to allow time for these temporary structures to be set up before the event.

Aka
December 27th, 2009, 08:05 PM
I'm watching Estádio 11 de Novembro (Luanda) opening in TPA. The stands are almost empty, but the show is kinda meh!


It's a shame that TPA's live image quality is not that great.



Today morning:

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/highlight/2009/11/52/0,9115e3d5-ab14-496b-80c9-df50e5b58ca9.jpg

Aka
December 30th, 2009, 12:42 AM
Da Angop................ finalmente...


http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/image/2009/11/53/1,e3648490-a8d8-4d44-8c57-9ecc586e3324.jpg

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Aka
December 31st, 2009, 03:51 AM
Cabinda:

http://www.portalangop.co.ao/motix/pt_pt/files/highlight/2009/11/53/0,96a495c8-3007-4c37-8088-5efcc91ee004.jpg

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Livno80101
January 1st, 2010, 02:34 AM
What was attendance against Estonia??? Can you play better, at least to finish in top two in group??? Losing to Estonia is bad...:ohno:

sali_haci
January 1st, 2010, 08:59 PM
2010 African cup of nations will be very interesting... I hope that Egypt or Ivory Coast will be the champions... But Ghana, Nigeria, and Cameroon are also good teams...

Christopher26
January 5th, 2010, 08:26 PM
Can a mod stick this thread?

Christopher26
January 8th, 2010, 05:48 PM
too much blabla in here so back to topic

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_C7tvM4n-hxU/SyXktKnpXtI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/QR0zkdYwFS4/s800/IMG_2093.JPG

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http://lh5.ggpht.com/_C7tvM4n-hxU/SyXlrodhtoI/AAAAAAAAAfY/vCBSHsGPoUU/s800/IMG_2191.JPG

Courtesy of Sajeeth

From Matthias. Cabinda stadium.

Aka
January 8th, 2010, 09:31 PM
It starts terribly...

SudanORG
January 8th, 2010, 09:52 PM
I think the tournment will be moved! Or the Togo team will leave the tournment. Why are the hosting the tournment in a city that have no government control with rebels on it, what are they thinking???????

Aka
January 8th, 2010, 10:30 PM
in a city that have no government control with rebels on it

That's not true. Angola rules over the province of Cabinda and it's capital city with the same name.

The Republic of Cabinda is a group of separatists.

That would be the same as questioning a World Cup match in Bilbao.


By the way, their target wasn't Togo's team.

Frnjchuga031
January 8th, 2010, 11:57 PM
That's not true. Angola rules over the province of Cabinda and it's capital city with the same name.

The Republic of Cabinda is a group of separatists.

That would be the same as questioning a World Cup match in Bilbao.


By the way, their target wasn't Togo's team.

Yeah but it's The Togo team that get shot on...
Why would anyone sane put that region as a host if they know it's instable and on brink of war ?:bash::ohno:

Aka
January 9th, 2010, 12:20 AM
Yeah but it's The Togo team that get shot on...
Why would anyone sane put that region as a host if they know it's instable and on brink of war ?:bash::ohno:

Like I said, that would be like questioning Bilbao due to ETA or Rio de Janeiro. If you visit Cabinda you won't find a war there. Burkina Faso's coach (although Portuguese) said that everything looks calm there. It happened and it was terrible, but the situation in the city isn't exactly like you're saying.

Frnjchuga031
January 9th, 2010, 02:39 AM
Like I said, that would be like questioning Bilbao due to ETA or Rio de Janeiro. If you visit Cabinda you won't find a war there. Burkina Faso's coach (although Portuguese) said that everything looks calm there. It happened and it was terrible, but the situation in the city isn't exactly like you're saying.

OK, I understand that but I belive that something like that wouldn't happen in Bilbao...

Kwazimoto
January 9th, 2010, 12:47 PM
Oh, brother! This is bad. Watch how they will link this incident with S.A 2010.

RobH
January 9th, 2010, 12:52 PM
Togo should leave. They'd be mad to stay. I know I wouldn't stick around after that.

Livno80101
January 9th, 2010, 12:55 PM
This was isolated case... wont happen again... and Togo won't withdraw from the cup... I have faith in Angolans and their authorities and I believe they will show to world that they are capable of making great cup :banana:

RobH
January 9th, 2010, 01:56 PM
Togo have pulled out. Really there was no other choice.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8449978.stm

Axelferis
January 9th, 2010, 04:18 PM
This was isolated case... wont happen again... and Togo won't withdraw from the cup... I have faith in Angolans and their authorities and I believe they will show to world that they are capable of making great cup :banana:


:ohno:

Aka
January 9th, 2010, 05:34 PM
OK, I understand that but I belive that something like that wouldn't happen in Bilbao...

But don't get me wrong: there IS war in Cabinda - although Angola's government denies it -, in the region. Maybe they should've chosen Huambo instead of Cabinda. My point is that if you go now to the city you won't find shooting, conflicts, etc.

Togo made a terrible decision to travel to Cabinda by bus.


And why wouldn't this happen in a city like Bilbao? Don't you have terrorist attacks made by ETA to political figures and regular people? It can happen anywhere... Wasn't it worse in Munich?

Christopher26
January 9th, 2010, 06:09 PM
3 people dead now. Togo withdrew.

TEBC
January 9th, 2010, 06:10 PM
But don't get me wrong: there IS war in Cabinda - although Angola's government denies it -, in the region. Maybe they should've chosen Huambo instead of Cabinda. My point is that if you go now to the city you won't find shooting, conflicts, etc.

Togo made a terrible decision to travel to Cabinda by bus.


And why wouldn't this happen in a city like Bilbao? Don't you have terrorist attacks made by ETA to political figures and regular people? It can happen anywhere... Wasn't it worse in Munich?

08/01/10 - 20h28 - Atualizado em 09/01/10 - 01h13

Português técnico de Burkina Faso diz que togoleses não respeitaram normas
Paulo Duarte se sente seguro em Angola e conta que vítimas de atentado ignoraram recomendação ao se concentrar no Congo e viajar de ônibus

GLOBOESPORTE.COM
Cabinda, Angola
Tamanho da letra
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Agência/AFP
O técnico português Paulo Duarte O atentado a tiros que matou o motorista do ônibus e feriu ao menos dois jogadores da seleção de Togo, na província de Cabinda, em Angola, não causa medo ao português Paulo Duarte. Técnico da seleção de Burkina Faso, que também está em Cabinda para a disputa da Copa Africana de Nações (CAN), Duarte afirma que não teme por sua segurança e insinua que os togoleses têm parte da culpa pelo acontecido.

- Sentimo-nos perfeitamente seguros, num aldeamento, como que uma vila olímpica em que iriam ficar as quatro seleções. Uma delas rejeitou e, infelizmente, essa mesma seleção teve um acidente. Togo quis ficar a 120 quilômetros, no Congo, e depois veio de ônibus. Aconteceu o que aconteceu - disse Paulo Duarte à "Agência Lusa".



O treinador acredita que a insistência de Togo em não seguir o recomendado pela organização do torneio contribuiu para a fatalidade.

- A segurança no meu entender é boa, porque estamos aqui bem protegidos e acho que foi um episódio isolado que atingiu uma equipe que, penso eu, não quis integrar ou respeitar, na totalidade, as normas de segurança da CAN. Nós ficamos surpreendidos com a organização, que proporcionou todas as condições, alojamento, terrenos de jogo, segurança, acompanhamento e apoio logístico. Eu próprio estou surpreso, porque na África, normalmente, não há bons gramados e aqui encontramos dos melhores - finalizou.

saiba mais
Morre motorista de ônibus da seleção do Togo que foi metralhado em Angola Abalada por ataque a Togo, Copa Africana de Nações começa neste domingo
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Além de Burkina Faso e Togo, o Grupo B da CAN tem ainda Costa do Marfim e Gana. A estreia de Togo está marcada para o dia 11, contra a seleção ganesa. A organização da CAN já convirmou que o torneio não será cancelado por conta do incidente.

Aka
January 9th, 2010, 06:34 PM
TEBC's article says that they were told not to travel by bus, yet they insisted in ignoring it.

ChilenoFutbol
January 9th, 2010, 07:06 PM
^^ there should still have been higher levels of securiy. in my opinion i would remove cabinda as a host, but i thinks too late to do that

Aka
January 9th, 2010, 07:13 PM
Actually, those security officers were their real target.

RobH
January 9th, 2010, 07:14 PM
Silly for ignoring the advice perhaps, but it's the organising committee's job to ensure players get from place to place safely. Surely transport plans should have been worked out long beforehand? The onus is on the organising committee to make sure they know exactly where every player and official is when they're travelling between venues, the airports, their bases etc.; simply saying "we told them not to go by bus" doesn't really cut it for me.

Aka
January 9th, 2010, 07:21 PM
simply saying "we told them not to go by bus" doesn't really cut it for me.

Well, if you tell a player that he shouldn't go to some place but he still does does that make you guilty? They knew where they were going. The truth is that nothing happened at all to the other 15 national teams, including the other 3 in Cabinda. Why?


EDIT: I mean, what do they want? A war unit to take care of them just because they decided it was cheaper to travel by land trough a war area instead of a secure plane? Is this even serious?

And why is everybody complaining about the choise of Cabinda only now? Didn't they know already that there was a war in Cabinda? Did CAF care? Did FIFA care? Did the national associations cared? I guess they don't, since they even decided to travel by land there!

That would be like FIFA bashing South Africa if someone gets raped there. Hypocrites.

Kwazimoto
January 9th, 2010, 08:25 PM
Uhm, that last statement was uncalled for. Dont try to pass the buck, the issue is with Angola and what happened to the 3 innocent beings.

Trelawny
January 9th, 2010, 09:19 PM
Oh, brother! This is bad. Watch how they will link this incident with S.A 2010.

This really has nothing to due with South Africa. If they see a problem because they are both on the african continent thats their own problem. Angola is a young nation coming from a very long brutal war, south africa has been peacefull for a two decades now.

IcyUrmel
January 9th, 2010, 11:24 PM
They knew where they were going.

(...)

And why is everybody complaining about the choise of Cabinda only now? Didn't they know already that there was a war in Cabinda? Did CAF care? Did FIFA care? Did the national associations cared? I guess they don't, since they even decided to travel by land there!

The problem seems to be that nobody really knew about the extend of the Cabinda conflict. In the first news published by Reuters & Co yesterday night, these news agencies stated that the armed FLEC units had not been active for years now, or even were told not to exist anymore. What means that no FLEC activities have been reported for years now.

In the more recent news, the same agencies knew that the FLEC had split in more or less radical units a few years ago, and that the radical units are still in arms.

Therefore, I suppose due to a non-information-politic of the Angolan authorities the real extend of the FLEC activities was unknown beyond the borders of the Cabinda provence, or outside the inner circle of Angolan authorities. There still is civil war in Cabinda, but before yesterday nobody was aware of it. I don't think the Togo team knew about the real situation in Cabinda.


For the world cup, the only consequence I see is an image damage.

Aka
January 10th, 2010, 12:20 AM
Uhm, that last statement was uncalled for. Dont try to pass the buck, the issue is with Angola and what happened to the 3 innocent beings.

You're just saying that because I used two words: "South" and "Africa".

Aka
January 10th, 2010, 12:25 AM
The problem seems to be that nobody really knew about the extend of the Cabinda conflict. In the first news published by Reuters & Co yesterday night, these news agencies stated that the armed FLEC units had not been active for years now, or even were told not to exist anymore. What means that no FLEC activities have been reported for years now.

In the more recent news, the same agencies knew that the FLEC had split in more or less radical units a few years ago, and that the radical units are still in arms.

Therefore, I suppose due to a non-information-politic of the Angolan authorities the real extend of the FLEC activities was unknown beyond the borders of the Cabinda provence, or outside the inner circle of Angolan authorities. There still is civil war in Cabinda, but before yesterday nobody was aware of it. I don't think the Togo team knew about the real situation in Cabinda.


For the world cup, the only consequence I see is an image damage.


If they were told to avoid going by bus then they knew what was going on. The problem is that this war isn't exactly like a regular war and they thought nothing would happen.


By the way, Togo's Government wants the team to quit. Their Association wants them to play. The players want to play, but they're asking to postpone the competition (or their matches) so that they could bury those three and return after that.

If the players feel that they wanna play... then game on, right?

passionate saffa
January 10th, 2010, 02:41 AM
togo have decided to stay.
http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopStories/2010/01/10/Togo_to_compete_in_African_Nations_Cup_415847.html

RobH
January 10th, 2010, 12:19 PM
Well, for the time being then - if that's what the Togo players have decided - let's focus on the football. There'll be plenty of time to analyse what happened in Cabinda after the tournament.

RobH
January 10th, 2010, 02:43 PM
Togo are leaving....

Togo captain Emmanuel Adebayor has told French radio his team will return home from the Africa Cup of Nations following advice from their government.

Although the team initially wanted to leave the tournament after a gun attack on the team killed three people, they then said they would stay on in Angola.

But Togo Prime Minister Gilbert Houngbo insisted the team leave the country for security reasons.

Tournament organisers have said the event would still go ahead as planned.

Adebayor had previously said the team thought that despite the attack on their convoy in the northern enclave of Cabinda, which killed an assistant coach, press officer and bus driver, and injured several other players, life should go on and they did not want to be seen as ruining the Nations Cup which begins on Sunday.

Team-mate Thomas Dossevi also said the players want to honour those killed and French paper L'Equipe quoted another player Alaixys Romao as saying the team would not "leave like cowards".

But it seems that Houngbo's advice has led to a change of heart.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/africa/8450529.stm

Axelferis
January 10th, 2010, 03:26 PM
Finally and logical

Christopher26
January 10th, 2010, 07:18 PM
Togo will stay. let the games begin.

Christopher26
January 10th, 2010, 07:27 PM
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47078000/jpg/_47078923_luanda466.jpg

Christopher26
January 10th, 2010, 07:34 PM
Very nice opening ceremony.

Trelawny
January 10th, 2010, 07:55 PM
Togo will stay. let the games begin.

No Togo left, but ya the open cermony was great!

Pule
January 10th, 2010, 09:23 PM
Well done to Angola, the opening ceremony was manifique...

FXRevv
January 10th, 2010, 10:08 PM
Nice stadium!

skytrax
January 10th, 2010, 10:17 PM
I can not believe those results. We already were advantage and they made 4 goals in 12 minutes!!! :bash:

This is unbelievable.. :ohno:

Trelawny
January 10th, 2010, 10:48 PM
I can not believe those results. We already were advantage and they made 4 goals in 12 minutes!!! :bash:

This is unbelievable.. :ohno:

Tough luck man. Your formation should have droped to a 4-5-1 or something when it was 4-2.

Axelferis
January 10th, 2010, 11:12 PM
trainer's fail then...?

almerrikh123
January 11th, 2010, 12:33 AM
4-4

corredor06
January 11th, 2010, 01:12 AM
Sad start to the cup i hope i this tournament ends in a good note i want cote d'ivoire to win. :nocrook:

Insite
January 11th, 2010, 06:02 AM
Go Angola!

sali_haci
January 11th, 2010, 11:09 AM
Mali you're gods :D

Chimbanha
January 11th, 2010, 02:30 PM
Poor Angola, that was tragic.

SVN2007
January 11th, 2010, 11:17 PM
Despite of the bad result about the opening match , allowing Mali to score 4 goals in just 12 minutes, congratulations to Angola with the very good work in these stadiums. The Luanda Stadium is very impressive. :applause:

Masree
January 12th, 2010, 02:33 PM
Today, Egypt VS Nigeria.. :)

lpioe
January 12th, 2010, 09:16 PM
Any pics from stadiums in use?

Matthias Offodile
January 12th, 2010, 09:59 PM
Any pics from stadiums in use?



New Stadium in Luanda

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when it was still under construction

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exterior

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brand new stadium in Cabinda Province

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at night

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brand new stadium in Lubango (Southern Angolan)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_fnGrmdsh4CQ/Sx49rUJWmLI/AAAAAAAAAmo/Ieh9-JyNcm4/s800/IMG_1800.JPG



brand new stadium in Benguela

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parking lot

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Céremonia de Soteieo

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Opening Ceremony


2010/01/10 19:49

http://www.can-angola2010.com/ucm_can/groups/public/documents/library/can_003703.jpg


Espectáculo representativo da evolução histórica de Angola repleto de calor humano, cor e luz

A cerimónia de abertura Taça de África das Nações Orange Angola 2010, que contou com a presença de sua excelência o Presidente da República de Angola, José Eduardo dos Santos, pretendeu transmitir uma mensagem de paz e de reconstrução do país, transportando todo o público para episódios memoráveis da história e da cultura de Angola, numa trajectória impar pelas particularidades do seu povo, das suas dificuldades, conquistas e realizações.

Cerimónia de Abertura 01O espectáculo brindou os espectadores, numa primeira fase, com a aparição das bandeiras e imagens dos países que participam na competição. Num segundo momento, sempre acompanhado com o suporte da projecção de imagens numa tela especial que se elevou perante no centro do campo, foram projectadas imagens das belezas naturais angolanas, da fauna e do povo.

A um cenário de pinturas e gravuras rupestres projectados na tela gigante, seguiu-se a entrada dos povos bantu, a representação de uma cidade antiga num perfeito labirinto em que se estrutura o casario e a posição do soberano, o Eumbo.

No seguimento da trajectória dos povos fixados neste território africano, o espectáculo de abertura reportou a chegada dos europeus, acompanhada com a projecção de imagens do mar, dos missionários, da árvore secular sagrada entre outros motivos de interesse.

A intervenção dos portugueses, que trouxe aos angolanos o contacto com o novo mundo, também foi retratada, assim como o 4 de Fevereiro e o içar da bandeira a 11 de Novembro de 1975, onde se proclamou a independência de Angola.

A coreografia continuou com um quadro que espelhou o ambiente de paz que o País vive e a projecção de inúmeras fotografias dos recursos hídricos de Angola, de produtos agrícolas, da welwitchia e da Palanca Gigante, entre outras.

Opening Ceremony of CAN 2010

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great show in here

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fantastic firework

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Courtesy of Maurice Ravel


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...and because of him, stupid Angolan goalkeeper:tongue:...Angola only came 4:4 while playing against Mali:bash::bash:

Axelferis
January 12th, 2010, 11:05 PM
great!! it honours Africa!!!!

Thank you Angola

psafa
January 13th, 2010, 07:52 AM
luv ittttttttttt

Chimbanha
January 13th, 2010, 04:37 PM
Luanda should be the 2nd African city to host the Olympics, after Cape Town :cheers:

Axelferis
January 13th, 2010, 07:38 PM
Luanda should be the 2nd African city to host the Olympics, after Cape Town :cheers:


not enough for the moment! in 10 or 15 years perhaps!

Chimbanha
January 13th, 2010, 11:05 PM
not enough for the moment! in 10 or 15 years perhaps!

It's after Cape Town hosts, so within 50-60 years :)

RobH
January 30th, 2010, 07:12 PM
Togo have been banned from the next two Africa Cup of Nations following their withdrawal from this year's tournament.

The Confederation of African football (Caf) also fined the Hawks $50,000 for quitting the competition in the wake of a gun attack on the team bus in Angola.

Two members of their delegation and a coach driver were killed in the ambush, which occurred two days before the start of the tournament.

World football governing body Fifa declined to comment on the ban.

However, a statement from CAF read: "The executive committee has banned Togo from the next two African Nations Cup and fined the Togo FA 50,000 U.S. dollars."

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Please, anyone planning on watching the final tommorow, dont. Just switch off. I'm incensed by this heartless decision.

lpioe
January 30th, 2010, 07:20 PM
^^ I've read in another article the ban is not for the withdrawal itself, but because the togolese government got involved. The players of Togo wanted to play in the cup, but the government said they mustn't.

RobH
January 30th, 2010, 07:29 PM
And that makes it better? If the England team were attacked at a tournament and our government didn't get involved I'd be incensed. Of course the government got involved, they had every right to! A bus load of their citizens were in a terrorist attack in another country. The letter of the law in the footballing world - that governments should not involve themselves in FA matters - is irrelevent; completely and utterly irrelevent. The fact that the bigwigs running African football think they should apply the letter of the law, seemingly ignoring the extreme circumstances and the reasons for the Togolese government's intervention, is astounding and shows how up their own arses they are.

It's a disgusting, backwards decision that does nothing but show African football (and Africa) in a bad light. I will not be watching the final tomorrow as planned and nor should any right thinking person. An absolute joke of a confederation.


Still, at least the top players like Adabayor won't have to worry about this Tinpot trophy for a few years and can instead pay their full attention to meaningful matches in the Premier League.

It's time top players gave up on this tournament. Most of the stadiums have been half empty, the safety of players couldn't be guarunteed and a team has now been punished after having suffered a terrorist attack. FIFA, have some balls and suspend all African teams from international fooball until this decision is reversed!

Zorba
January 30th, 2010, 09:07 PM
It's a disgusting, backwards decision that does nothing but show African football (and Africa) in a bad light.
Agreed.

Still, at least the top players like Adabayor won't have to worry about this Tinpot trophy for a few years and can instead pay their full attention to meaningful matches in the Premier League.
A tin pot trophy? Please, don't perpetuate the stereotypes the English have gained from opinions like this. To assume that the Cup of an entire continent is a "tin pot trophy" is a completely ridiculous, and Anglo-centric view that I wouldn't imagine anyone who actually thought for a few minutes about the issue to have.
This is the national competition for an entire continent, and to put it down like that, and refer to only Premiership matches as "meaningful" exposes the ignorance in your statement. Really you've already made my argument for me, I don't even have to respond. You've shown your true colors.
And while I understand that a European would be hard pressed to find the importance in such a tournament, keep in mind that for these African players, this cup means a whole lot more. A chance for countries who don't have the opportunity to go to the world cup to demonstrate their skills on a world stage. A chance for a country like Angola, which has been ravaged by civil war, to finally get on its feet and show itself off to the world. Sure, the events surrounding the Togo team bus were unfortunate, but they can't take away the fact that Angola has accomplished a lot being able to host this tournament.
So yes, this cup, whether you choose to believe it or not, actually DOES mean something to millions of football fans in Africa and throughout the world. And yes, these games are totally meaningful and the pride of winning this trophy is truly great, if you don't believe me I can direct you to Egyptians, Tunisians, and Cameroonians who would be ready to support my point.

It's time top players gave up on this tournament. Most of the stadiums have been half empty, the safety of players couldn't be guarunteed and a team has now been punished after having suffered a terrorist attack. FIFA, have some balls and suspend all African teams from international fooball until this decision is reversed!
So because the administration of the CAF made a bad decision, FIFA should ban ALL African countries from international football?:lol:
This must be some kind of joke. Can you please explain to me what any African country has done to deserve a suspension. If you said ban Angola, although I would still disagree, it would at least be a defendable point, but this is completely uncalled for.
African teams who just went to Angola to take part in the tournament aren't to blame for this decision. It is a mistake at the administrative level of the CAF. If anything, FIFA should (and probably will) pressure them to overturn their decision. What you are calling for makes no sense at all.

And for the record, nobody should give up on this tournament. It is a great tournament which showcases African football. Players won't give up because they are representing their country in a major competition, and there is no greater pride than that. Do you think Adebayor would be happy never to play in another African Nations Cup, do you actually think he loves Manchester City, or do you think that he loved Arsenal, or Monaco before that?:lol:

He is entertaining audiences in England for the money and nothing else. He, as well as most other foreign players (African or not) in Europe's big leagues, couldn't care less about their club. A national team however is different. There they are representing their nation, and not being paid to do it. There is no greater honor for any footballer than to do that.

RobH
January 30th, 2010, 09:15 PM
I apologise for calling it a tinpot trophy and saying top players should pull out, I was posting purely out of anger. I was utterly speechless when I read the news and I still can't believe it.

I don't, however, apologise for saying FIFA should place sanctions on CAF, the most effective of which would be banning its teams from international compeition until the decision is reversed. The decision would be changed pretty quickly if that threat was made and would send out the right message to CAF about the seriousness and callousness of their original decision, as well as distancing FIFA from it. No teams would actually be banned because CAF wouldn't let it get that far, but the threat of a ban now isn't a bad idea given how disgusting this decision is.

I can only speak from my own perspective, but it reflects TERRIBLY on Afrcian football and its ability to govern itself in a year when we're supposed to be celebrating African football. The terrorist attack didn't taint South Africa 2010 because it was in a different country. This decision, if not reversed soon, will taint African football in the world cup year, however. It'd be sad if that were allowed to happen. FIFA must act quickly to get this decision reversed and if that means threatening sanctions, then so be it.

And one final thing: How many people around the world do you suppose will watch the final tomorrow when they hear on the evening news tonight of CAF's decision? I was going to watch it, but I'm not now and plenty of other football fans on other forums I post on are saying the same thing. The heartlessness of this ban is compounded by the stupidity of its timing! I don't give a damn about the final now (I was looking forward to it) and don't think CAF deserves the world's eyes to be on their showpiece final the day after such a decision is made.

Zorba
January 31st, 2010, 01:07 AM
@Rob: Whether you choose to watch the final, or believe people should watch it or not is your opinion, and I can't argue with that. I totally understand why you would feel this way, and agree that the CAF's decision was both ill-timed (right before the final), and lacking in any sort of logic. The Togo team had every right to defend itself and the lives of its players, as did Togo's government getting involved.

However, I just don't feel the innocent (other African nations) should be punished even temporarily for the bad decision making at CAF headquarters. FIFA can use its power in other ways without resorting to sanctions and suspensions. Hopefully this decision will be reversed quite quickly.......

Aka
January 31st, 2010, 01:51 AM
FIFA, have some balls and suspend all African teams from international fooball until this decision is reversed!

Actually, I found it weird when the Togolese government decided to take away the team from Angola since we all know that FIFA DOES NOT allow any interference from governments on their football associations. It's probably one of the things they hate the most and has already lead to many associations suspended by FIFA previously. If anything should've happened it would be this, but FIFA remained silent - probably because it would sound bad.

Yet, banning Togo for two consecutive ACN's is something that nobody really understands because it was a CAF decision and mostly because they were the ones who actually said that they could withdraw without any kind of retaliation - and they already knew that it was Togo's government who pushed for all this. That's the weirdest s*** in all this.

Joop20
February 7th, 2010, 02:52 AM
When willl the FIFA step in and stop this madness? Togo being banned because the CAF did not select a safe host country? Come on! Ban the other countries instead!

Its AlL gUUd
February 7th, 2010, 04:05 AM
Agreed.


A tin pot trophy? Please, don't perpetuate the stereotypes the English have gained from opinions like this. To assume that the Cup of an entire continent is a "tin pot trophy" is a completely ridiculous, and Anglo-centric view that I wouldn't imagine anyone who actually thought for a few minutes about the issue to have.
This is the national competition for an entire continent, and to put it down like that, and refer to only Premiership matches as "meaningful" exposes the ignorance in your statement. Really you've already made my argument for me, I don't even have to respond. You've shown your true colors.
And while I understand that a European would be hard pressed to find the importance in such a tournament, keep in mind that for these African players, this cup means a whole lot more. A chance for countries who don't have the opportunity to go to the world cup to demonstrate their skills on a world stage. A chance for a country like Angola, which has been ravaged by civil war, to finally get on its feet and show itself off to the world. Sure, the events surrounding the Togo team bus were unfortunate, but they can't take away the fact that Angola has accomplished a lot being able to host this tournament.
So yes, this cup, whether you choose to believe it or not, actually DOES mean something to millions of football fans in Africa and throughout the world. And yes, these games are totally meaningful and the pride of winning this trophy is truly great, if you don't believe me I can direct you to Egyptians, Tunisians, and Cameroonians who would be ready to support my point.


its not a ''Tin Pot Trophy'' and Rob obviously said it out of anger. However even though i understand its Africa's showpiece tournament as is the Euro Championship for Europe, holding the tournament every two years is ridiculous. it loses some of its excitement and isn't as special, you aren't as drawn to the tournament because it comes round so often. It is just silly having another international confederation's tournament during World Cup year aswell. Change to every four years and the tournament will be more popular, exciting and the anticipation will be higher.

btw banning Togo really does show the African Confederation (as well as African football) in a really bad light.