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Mwafrika
October 7th, 2009, 08:43 PM
Kenyans 'rearming for 2012 poll'



Rival ethnic groups in Kenya who fought after the 2007 election are rearming in readiness for violence at the 2012 poll, a BBC investigation has found.

It is feared villagers in Rift Valley province are moving from traditional weapons such as spears to machine guns.

Government officials insist they are tackling the influx of illegal arms.

But they have been widely criticised for failing to punish the ringleaders of violence after the 2007 election, in which 1,300 people died.

A power-sharing government was formed in early 2008 to quell the violence.

It has been under international pressure to investigate the killings ever since, but its failure to organise a local tribunal has forced the International Criminal Court to step in to prosecute suspects.

Ethnic arms race

The BBC's Wanyama wa Chebusiri discovered arms dealers selling sophisticated weaponry in the Rift Valley - an area hard-hit by ethnic violence in early 2008.


"Compared to guns, the arrows were child's play" - Kalenjin man

One arms dealer told our reporter, for the Network Africa programme, supply was high and prices were low at the moment.

"Right now we have AK47 rifles for sale but there are times when we also sell G3s [rifles]," he said.

"In a month we sell more than 100 rifles."

Members of the Kalenjin community and their rivals, the Kikuyu - the country's dominant ethnic group - both said they were arming to protect themselves.

"We bought the guns because we hear the Kikuyu have also bought guns," said a Kalenjin man who declined to be named.

"Before we were using bows and arrows to fight the enemy but changed to guns following the post-election experience because we realised, compared to guns, the arrows were child's play."

A member of the Kikuyu community said he was not willing to "wait until 2012 to be killed".

"We have to arm ourselves. I did not acquire this gun to commit offences," he said.

'Time-bomb'

For weeks after the 2007 election the two communities fought in bloody clashes.

Most Kalenjins had supported Raila Odinga, a member of the western Luo community, for president and were convinced he had been cheated of victory by President Mwai Kibaki, a Kikuyu.

After weeks of bloodshed, the two men formed a power-sharing government with the president keeping his job and Mr Odinga being brought in as prime minister.

But the UN has warned that a similar flare-up could occur after the 2012 vote unless Kenya strengthens its institutions and the perpetrators of the 2007 violence are punished.

Kipkorir Ngetich, of the Eldoret human rights group expressed similar fears and said his research backed the BBC's findings - that the communities are rearming.

"We are appealing to the government to investigate the matter because it is a time-bomb that will soon explode," he said.

Kenya's deputy minister for internal security, Orwa Ojode, said he was aware of the problem and had ordered the police to clamp down on the sales.

"We will definitely apprehend those who are behind the sale of illegal arms," he said.

He blamed the country's porous borders and its proximity to unstable states like Somalia for the influx of guns.

Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8293745.stm

Kenyans should have learnt from the experiences of the last elections...
I can't believe they want full blown civil war :ohno:

:bash: :bash: :bash:

nairoberry
October 8th, 2009, 03:55 AM
Kenyans 'rearming for 2012 poll'



Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8293745.stm

Kenyans should have learnt from the experiences of the last elections...
I can't believe they want full blown civil war :ohno:

:bash: :bash: :bash:

i dont think so.

who is willing to bankroll and buying of the arms or organising a millitia when the ocampo is about to prosecute the people that bankrolled and organised the PEV? even the current government wont condone that right now because it would be undermining itself.

if you ask me this is the media trying to create something out of nothing, for how long have illegal weapons been sold all over kenya? even there is illegal weapons being sold in kitui!!! so are the akamba people in kitui now preparing for war in 2012? nonesence. this reporter interviews afew extremists or nutcases and then he represents it in this article like those crazy few represent our nation? puhlease!!!

it is intresting that this "report" comes out just when annan is in town, ocampo is about to visit the country and there is alot of talk about the government not doing enough on reforms. i think its just the media trying to put pressure on the govt to do more.

Kenguy
October 8th, 2009, 04:11 AM
Lets see how the two principals handle the Agenda 4 reforms now that everyone is putting pressure on them. This story will be the yardstick of its success or failure.

Kenguy
October 8th, 2009, 04:15 AM
I dont think anyone will want guns after this one.

Owning AK-47 Soon to Be a Hanging Offence

Kenneth Ogosia
6 October 2009

Nairobi — Owners of illegal guns and police officers who rent their firearms to criminals could soon face the death penalty.

Law enforcement agencies are pushing for tighter gun control and have proposed a raft of tough measures to be discussed by the Cabinet soon.

These include an amendment to the Firearms Act, the law governing the legal ownership of guns.

According to the latest proposals contained in the National Policy on Small Arms and Light Weapons, no one will be allowed to own an AK-47 rifle, a G3 or "any automatic or semi-automatic self-loading military assault rifle of any other calibre".

Anyone found guilty of having one will be hanged. The policy is a follow-up of a letter to the Attorney General dated February 12, 2007. The letter from the then Police Commissioner, Maj-Gen Hussein Ali, had proposed that the death sentence be imposed on criminals with illegal firearms and civilians who misuse licensed guns.

The AG is yet to act on the recommendations. He instead proposed that the death sentence be reduced to life imprisonment.

Another memorandum from the Commissioner of Police to the Attorney General has now recommended that imposing the maximum penalty for gun crime is the only way to curb the misuse of weapons, which have been blamed for the high crime rate and banditry in parts of the country.

It also proposes that anyone who handles a gun while drunk be jailed for five years without the option of a fine. Under the current laws, such offenders are jailed for a year or fined Sh20,000.

The proposals were prepared by the National Steering Committee on Peace Building and Conflict Management in the Office of the President and a unit on the control of the proliferation of small and light weapons in the police force.

The memorandum has been submitted afresh to Internal Security minister George Saitoti in the hope that it will be discussed by the Cabinet.

Last week, Kenya's top commanders from the military, the intelligence services and Police Force held an unprecedented meeting at the Kenya School of Monetary Studies to discuss the security problems facing the nation.

Among the issues discussed were disarmament and conflict resolution particularly in the North Rift and Upper Eastern regions, which have been rocked by perennial banditry and cattle rustling attacks. The latest such attack, in Laikipia North, led to the death of 32 people last month.

A senior security official, who declined to be named discussing pending Cabinet business, on Tuesday told the Nation: "What Kofi Annan is attempting to address is no small matter because we are sitting on a time bomb. The use of guns is no longer just for criminal purposes, but a political tool."

Top on the minds of the authors of the memorandum was the concern that illegal weapons could be used in election-related violence in 2012.

In 2008, 1,133 people were killed in post-election chaos, sparking fears that the violence could be worse in 2012.

Both the memo and the National Policy on Small Arms and Light Weapons warn that Kenyans are increasingly exposed to the danger of weapons finding their way into the country illegally through its borders and also through Lake Victoria. Kenya's border with war-ravaged Somalia is one of the major entry points of illegal firearms.

The idea behind the tough proposals is to enhance the punishment provided for in the Firearms Act section 4(3), which prohibits the purchase, acquisition and possession of firearms or ammunition without a certificate. The current sentence is a jail term of between seven and 15 years.

If the proposal is accepted and becomes law, offences under that section will be punishable by death. However, it is still not clear if this sentence will be enforced since Kenya has not hanged any death row convict since 1982.

In another recommendation, gun owners who fail to renew their licenses will be fined Sh1,000, up from the current Sh500, while licensed gun owners who fail to produce their permit will be fined Sh50,000, up from Sh10,000.

Concealing the serial number of a weapon will attract 10 years in prison without the option of a fine, up from the current five years.

Unregistered gun dealers will be jailed for between 10 and 15 years, while those who give false information when registering as gun dealers will be jailed for five years without the option of a fine.

Selling guns or bullets in a place which is not authorised under the law will attract a jail term of not less than 15 years, according to the proposal.

Security personnel or top government officials who are found armed and drunk will be jailed for five years.

The national policy on small arms is intended to reduce the number of weapons in public hands, bring together all laws related to weapons, help cooperation with other countries and inform the public about the danger posed by guns.

The policy was drafted by the National Focal Point for Small Arms and Light Weapons, the department which deals with disarmament in the Office of the president.

BUTEMBO21
October 11th, 2009, 02:19 AM
BBC went ot interview exteremists. With the progress that happening in Kenya. i don't think people would choose to take weapons and loose the hoppe an opportunies.

It's not like Kaenya is a Mineral or Oil rich or a super dictaorship for the to choose guns over having a job with a cooporation.


lets wait and see. anything can happen in Africa or the Wolrd.

Mwafrika
October 12th, 2009, 08:47 PM
I hope you guys are right and people think straight.... though with the main culprits still roaming the streets and drinkin champagne in parliament, the stakes are high. These bastard politicians/business people who are mainly responsible for the violence are capable of doin anythin to cling onto "power" we need them behind bars.

ewangai
October 13th, 2009, 12:31 PM
I hope you guys are right and people think straight.... though with the main culprits still roaming the streets and drinkin champagne in parliament, the stakes are high. These bastard politicians/business people who are mainly responsible for the violence are capable of doin anythin to cling onto "power" we need them behind bars.

exactly. the guys who commited all the atrocities got away scot free and the planners and the election riggers. untill we can make an example of them as a country, we will be back to where we were last year. the problem is this time investors will be wise and will pull out before the election. a sad prospect indeed.