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MIAballinboi
April 5th, 2004, 11:02 PM
thanks to south florida dave

A little update on a couple projects:

They've changed the name of Brickell City Center to the Plaza on Brickell & have started advertising for it in the Herald. There's also a basic website for it with a small updated rendering of the towers. The website is
www.theplazaonbrickell.com
http://sitiodigital.com/clientes/theplaza/images/formulario.jpg



heres some pics and info from www.markzilbert.com

the MIST project has been changed to Marina Blue


The Founder of NETSCAPE brings his second vision to Miami: Marina Blue. Following on the hells of the enormously successful BLUE CONDOS in Uptown Miami, MarinaBlue offers a living experience unlike any other downtown Miami condo building.

Highlights:

60 Stories

516 Units

1, 2 & 3 Bedrooms

One-of-a-kind SkyBeach on the 14th floor

Sizes from 900 square feet - 2,200 square feet

Project is expected to be completed in 2007

Line 01 : Two Bedroom two bath. Views from three sides. Features a rear balcony (approx 100 sq ft). Entry foyer and gallery wall.
Line 02: One Bedroom one and a half bath.
Line 03: One Bedroom one and a half bath. Plus a Den/Study with closet.
Line 04: Two Bedroom two bath. Entry foyer/gallery wall.
Line 05: Two Bedroom two bath. Entry foyer/gallery.
Line 05: Two Bedroom two bath. Entry foyer/gallery. Plus a Den/Study (Floors 18,21,24,27,30,33,36,39,42.,45,48,51)
Line 6: One Bedroom one and a half bath. Plus a Den/Study with closet.
Line 7: One Bedroom one and a half bath.
Line 8: Two Bedroom two and a half bath. Entry foyer/gallery. Views from two sides.
Line 8: Two Bedroom two bath. Entry foyer/gallery. Views from two sides. Features a rear balcony (approx 100 sq ft). Floors 54-57.
Line 9: One Bedroom plus Den with Closet and two bath. Entry foyer/gallery. Views from two sides (Floors 3-12)
Line 9: Two Bedroom two and a half bath. Entry foyer/gallery. Views from two sides (. Floors 15-44)
Line 10: One Bedroom one and a half bath.
Line 11: One Bedroom one and a half bath.
Line 12: Two Bedroom two bath. Views from three sides. Features a rear balcony (approx 100 sq ft).

Sky-High Ceilings and Windows

Floors 3-44 'Have 9' ceilings
Floors 45-57 Have 10' ceilings
Lofts on Floors 7,9,11 Have 18' ceilings
Plenty of Space In Each Unit

Lofts floor plans not yet final. Configurations will be 927 s.f.-1174 s.f. interiors and approximately 140 s.f. balcony with One Bedroom plus Den/Study.
Penthouse Levels are Floor 52-57 in South Tower, and 45-50 in North Tower. Floor plans not yet available, configurations from 1306 s.f. - 1794 s.f. in Two Bedroom, Three Bedroom, and Three Bedroom plus Den configurations.

Marina Blue - General Information

Brought to you by Hyperion Development, the team that developed, designed, and is building “Blue”. Rising 60 stories in the air, the sun will rise on your views of Biscayne Bay, Miami Beach, the Atlantic Ocean, and Cruise Ship Alley. But there’s more! Sunset views, and the lights of Downtown Miami beckon, as these buildings are only one unit deep, yours! This area has become the hottest new part of town. With the City of Miami building the new Opera, Performing Arts Center, and Museum Park right across the street. Miami’s American Airlines Arena and Bayside Shops next door.

A unique combination of luxury: all glass building, full width balconies, designer finishes, every unit views, and spectacular amenities. Yet brought to you at prices below any comparable development in $/ square foot or absolute price.

But just wait till you see Skybeach at Marina Blue. A complete beach club, as you find in St Tropez, St Barths, South Beach, or Punta del Este. With pools, beaches, cabanas, hot and cold plunge pools, sand volleyball, palm trees, boardwalks, barbequ‘es, lounges, game rooms, and gardens all at over 100 feet in the sky! You will be the envy of all your friends when you call them from your lounge chair, sipping a drink, your feet dangling in the water, while unwinding from your day.

HYPERION GROUP DEVELOPMENT

The creator of Marina Blue is a next generation developer whose futuristic vision is realized in
cutting-edge design and rock-solid fundamentals. Founded by two of the legends of the digital world and one of the South's most respected builders, the firm looks to urban Miami as a palette for large-scale, well-located projects, which will be distinctive for extraordinary designs and exceptional value.

Hyperion is:

Jim Clark, founder of multiple successful cutting-edge companies including Silicon Graphics, Netscape, Healtheon/WebMD and Shutterfly.

Tom Jermoluk, in business with Jim Clark for 20 years; CEO, founder and board member of over 15 successful companies.

Paul Murphy, master builder, developer and general contractor for 37 years, building over 22,000 units, including high-rise condominiums and apartments as well as office towers and shopping centers.

Together this team has the expertise in people, projects and finance for everything from start-up companies to homes and high-rises. Their most recent project in Miami is the spectacularly successful Blue, the iconic 36-story bayfront tower that launched the renaissance of Uptown Miami and the Design District.

Well its gonna be 60 stories, but it says that there will be a south tower and north tower!!!
http://www.markzilbert.com/images/condo_pix/marinablue/marinabluemain.jpg
http://www.markzilbert.com/images/condo_pix/marinablue/overmap.jpg http://www.markzilbert.com/images/condo_pix/marinablue/overmap2.jpg http://www.markzilbert.com/images/condo_pix/marinablue/big_picture.jpg

More info and pics here http://www.markzilbert.com/images/condo_pix/marinablue/


3 giant towers side by side,
60 story marina blue (possible a 2 tower complex one 60 stories and the other 50+ stories)
60 story tall 900 biscayne bay
50 story tall ten museum park

here's some 900 biscayne bay info

http://www.search4miamihomes.com/miami/900_Biscayne_Bay.htm


Ten Museum Park

THE BUILDING: A tropical urban oasis soaring 50 crystalline stories above Miami's Biscayne Bay, Ten Museum Park offers an unparalleled standard of living in a tower of dramatic proportion. Designed by award-winning architect Chad Oppenheim, the slender building frames fragments of water, city and sky, encapsulating the life within it in a sparkling structure. Situated in the heart of the city's arts, museum and entertainment district nearby South Beach and Coconut Grove, the Clinique La Prairie spa community comprises the elements of a futuristic playground: sophisticated residences, dining, nightlife, recreation, pampering and work spaces.

THE RESIDENCES: Each loft or condominium at Ten Museum Park features ceilings from 10- to 20-feet and is appointed with Clinique La Prairie floating glass personal spa environments. Gourmet kitchens and state-of the-art electronics are also standard with each of the 200 one- and two-bedroom condominiums and two-story lofts. Priced from $300,000 to more than $4 million, the residences--which all have sweeping bay views--are scheduled for completion by the end of 2006.

THE LIFESTYLE: Armin Mattli's celebrated Clinique La Prairie spa sets the exemplary standard for indulgence and recreation at Ten Museum Park. Luxurious treatments will be available within the Wellness Center, which will offer fitness facilities and architectural pavilions dedicated to aromatherapy, chromotherapy, massage, meditation, steam, sauna and rainforest showers. Residents will have their choice of eight plunge, lap and infinity pools with cabanas--some nestled within Ten Museum Park's spectacular 25,000 square foot Sky Garden. Fine dining will be offered both indoors and out, along with the opportunity to socialize at Ten Museum Park's private bar and lounge. Conceived by international nightlife impresario Michael Capponi--the property's club will likely prove popular with his celebrity following.

THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM: Ten Museum Park is the creation of architect Chad Oppenheim and real estate developer Gregg Covin. Oppenheim, whose work has been exhibited in galleries around the world, is the recipient of numerous design distinctions, including the 2003 American Architecture Award, the 2003 AIA Miami Architect Award and the 2001 AIA Outstanding Young Architect Award. He has built several communities in South Florida and published books in association with Comell University. Covin is a third generation real estate development specialist who is responsible for chic, boutique properties in South Florida: South Beach's Hotel St. Augustine, Neville Condominium, Montclair Lofts and Domicile Lofts, plus Lofts in the Grove in Coconut Grove. Oppenheim and Covin are joined by Armin Mattli, owner and president of the world renowned Clinique La Prairie spa in Switzerland and the founder of both La Prairie and Swiss Perfection cosmetics line.

FUTURE: Ten Museum Park creators envision bringing the community's superb lifestyle to attractive urban environments worldwide.

COPYRIGHT 2004 Freedom Magazines, Inc.
COPYRIGHT 2004 Gale Group


http://www.highrise-condos.com/florida/ten-museum-park/location2.jpg

http://tenmuseumpark.com/images/building3.jpg


dont forget opus, the 57 story tower nearby

New Yorkers hope to begin Opus in Miami
Paola Iuspa-Abbott
A New York investment group said it plans to build a 57-story tower on a parcel that could be key to depressing the elevated I-395 expressway and to plans to enhance Biscayne Boulevard.

Avra Jain represents a group of New York investors who own several parcels around the performing arts center now under construction in downtown Miami. Jain's group hired Miami architecture firm Arquitectonica to mastermind Opus, a 408-unit residential tower with about 17,000 square feet of retail and office space and a 534-space parking garage.

The site is between Northeast 12th and 13th streets on the east side of Biscayne Boulevard, immediately north of I-395.

The group bought the 35,582-square-foot parcel in April 2002 for about $4.4 million, Miami-Dade property records show. The developer is Hyperion Development Group, developer of Blue, under construction, and Mist, in planning, both on Biscayne Boulevard.

Jain was one of the first investors to invest in the area as soon as plans to build the two-hall arts complex began shaping up, after more than a decade of planning.

Miami city planners are reviewing Jain's architectural renderings for a slim, cylinder-shaped high-rise to climb over the nearly two-story-high causeway and the arts center on Biscayne and 14th Street. Jain's group is in the process of applying for a major use special permit, the first step to develop the site. That permit is required for a project with more than 200 units and can take six months.

Some area property owners said they were glad to hear the dirt, now used as parking for people working on the arts center construction site, is in the process of being developed.

"She called me the other day to tell me about her plans," said Eleanor Kluger, a property owner and community activist. "Not many people know about it. But I guess she wanted to let me know that she is serious about doing something with her property."

A tower in the ointment
If the project moves forward, it could jeopardize a proposal to bring I-395 underground. The parcel Jain owns is land the government would need to bury the highway.

The overpass redesign would eliminate a perceived barrier between the performing arts center - north of the causeway - and the AmericanAirlines Arena and Bicentennial Park - south of the overpass. People in favor of the underground design say it would promote pedestrian traffic, inviting patrons to walk from the arts center to Bayside Marketplace for dinning or shopping.

But Jain's site is critical in to a recessed I-395. Without it, years of planning would go down the drain, said Jorge Espinel, who teaches architecture and urban design at Florida Atlantic University and Broward Community College. For the last couple of years, he has led a grassroots group pushing to bring down the causeway to make the area more pedestrian-friendly.

"If the building is built," Espinel said, "it will be the end of all we have worked for."

Jain did not return several phone calls to her Miami home.

Earlier this year, the county and the city asked the Florida Department of Transportation to resume a 1994 study to improve the traffic flow on the expressway linking the mainland to Miami Beach. The state is also expected to consider different alternatives to re-design the causeway.

Some elected officials call recessing "open-cut." If approved, it could take 20 years for the project to materialize.

The Department of Transportation is responsible for securing land needed to move I-395 north. But until a feasibility study is complete, the state won't know what parcels it must buy, said Gary Donn, the department's director of planning.

"We could go ahead with an advance right-of-way acquisition," he said. "But we don't want to do that unless we are absolutely sure what parcels we need."

If it had to, the state would use the eminent domain process to obtain the land, Donn said.

If Jain's group gets the major use special permit, the parcel's value will immediately increase, said J. Mark Quinlivan, a real estate appraiser with Quinlivan Appraisal. Land on the boulevard recently sold for about $200 a square foot, he said. Jain paid $123 a square foot, two years ago.

"The longer the state waits to acquire the land," Espinel said, "the more expensive it will get. After a while, it may not be financially feasible anymore."

Land is getting more expensive because developers and investors who are fueling redevelopment are also driving up prices. At least three luxury projects have been nnounced along on Biscayne Boulevard in downtown Miami: the 516-unit Mist, at 824 Biscayne Blvd.; the 200-unit Ten Museum Park, at 10th Street; and the 500-unit 900 Biscayne by developer Pedro Martin, at Ninth Street.

MIAballinboi
April 5th, 2004, 11:22 PM
HEIGHT ESTIMATIONS:
marina blue:
39 floors @ 9 ft= 351 feet
13 floors @ 10 ft=130 feet
3 floors @ 18 ft = 54 feet

thats a total of 55 floors and 535 feet

still missing floors 1, 2, 58, 59, and 60

hopefully the lobby is 20 ft, and the other floors 10 ft, and maybe this will be a 600 F00TER!


900 biscayne bay:
it says 10 feet in all residences and 20 feet in bay homes, plus the lobby is 18 feet of the ground, and its 60 floors.

so that should be easily over 600 feet!!!

ten museum park:
500-700 feet, especially by those renderings

opus:
550-650 feet, not much info to go on


Everyone post your height estimations!!

Style™
April 7th, 2004, 02:59 AM
Dang that's awsome! :D

MIAballinboi
April 7th, 2004, 03:00 AM
www.marinablue.com

http://www.marinablue.com/images/image_1.gif

Style™
April 7th, 2004, 03:01 AM
Curves are awsome on that building. Simply sexy! :)

SambaLover
April 7th, 2004, 03:35 AM
Who is buying all that expensive real estate certainly not the locals. Metro Miami is the poorest large metro area in the US. There is a great divide between the haves and have nots...it is truly a latin american city.

GRID
April 7th, 2004, 07:25 AM
WOOHOO! I love all the projects going up in Miami. This tropical city is just a boomtown! I love those two new towers. I think they are both great designs that match Miami and will enhance the city for sure! Thanks for sharing.

M II A II R II K
April 7th, 2004, 02:43 PM
Cool, this place could become the New York of the South. Skyscraperwise of course.

MIAballinboi
April 7th, 2004, 10:56 PM
heres from the miami herald

some new developments on the "Plaza on Brickell" development:
The Related Group plans to build a 1,000-unit condominium project on Miami's Brickell Avenue, a venture that could test both the draw of downtown living and the endurance of South Florida's frenzied real estate market.

The high-rise towers at the Plaza on Brickell would rise simultaneously, bringing all 1,000 units to market at a time when analysts are warning of a potential glut from the crush of condo projects underway.

But Related says its prices -- the average unit is to sell for under $300,000 -- and the allure of Brickell's cosmopolitan and urban lifestyle are enough to justify such a large undertaking.

''In this price range, with congestion what it is, with traffic what it is, we think Brickell and downtown are going to be the place to live,'' said John Chappelear, senior vice president at Related, the state's largest condominium developer.

The last time Related Chairman Jorge Perez announced such an ambitious construction project was in 2002, when he launched another pair of condominium towers, the One Miami complex in downtown Miami.

A cramped waterfront lot prompted Related to build both high-rises at once, but sales of the 896 units were strong enough there to help spark a wave of residential ventures downtown.

With its Brickell project, Related has chosen a pricey residential market with a hefty supply of aging condominium towers and new ones planned nearby.

But it was the number of units that seemed to catch the attention of industry watchers interviewed this week.

''That's kind of scary,'' said Jack Winston, senior consultant with Goodkin Consulting, which tracks South Florida real estate. ``Nobody else [but Related] could do it.''

Winston noted that Miami's Downtown Development Authority lists about 10,000 residential units planned in Brickell, downtown Miami and the area near the new performing arts center, with most slated to open by 2006.

Jack McCabe, of McCabe Research and Consulting in Deerfield Beach, said 25,000 condominiums units, ''substantially more than in the past,'' would hit the market this year in the three Southeast Florida counties.

And though most developers are reporting strong -- and sometimes frantic -- preconstruction sales, Winston said many of those purchases come from investors hoping to resell their units.

''All these people are buying now,'' he said. ``But it will take two years for the building to get built. . . . The question is: Will all these people close [on their contracts]?''

Chappelear said the $200 million Plaza project targets residents, not real estate speculators.

There is still an untapped demand for city living in Miami, he said, and the open-air retail complex planned for the lower floors will add to the Plaza's appeal.

Abel Iglesias, executive vice president at BankUnited, said the Plaza prices should prove a draw on Brickell Avenue since they're close to what many 20-year-old condos are selling for there.

The units from the tower running parallel to Brickell are to be sold first, and then Related will offer units from the second tower.

Prices are to run from the $170,000s to the high $400,000s, with most units measuring about 1,000 square feet.

The project site at 901 Brickell Ave. holds parking lots now. Related is developing the property with French investor Claude Dray, who acquired the site two years ago.

Chappelear said zoning approval for a project the Plaza's size was won in the 1980s and kept current by the site's owners.

The land is big enough to let Related stagger construction of the two towers, Chappelear said, but with buyers clamoring for new projects, Related didn't want to wait.

''The market is great now,'' he said, ``so now is the time to do it.''

heres my scanned rendering and location of it:
note: (my scanner isnt too good, and the pic came out a little blurry)
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/BallinBoi316/diagram.bmp http://mywebpage.netscape.com/BallinBoi316/brickell.jpg

Lee
April 8th, 2004, 12:33 AM
Who is buying all that expensive real estate certainly not the locals. Metro Miami is the poorest large metro area in the US. There is a great divide between the haves and have nots...it is truly a latin american city.

That's rediculous. When they say "poorest" they don't take into account the HUGE wealthy population of Miami, nor the sizeable upper middle class.

It is not a Latin American city! Unlike Latin American cities, the unemployment rate is relatively low, there is a big middle class, crime is much lower, it is more modern, and the supermarkets don't have flys swarming on the meat (like in the market I saw in Ecuador).

SambaLover
April 8th, 2004, 04:00 PM
Lee you are sooo wrong. Miami Is very poor ....just go slightly west from Brickell and you will be in the third world. MIAMI IS the POOREST Large Metro Area in the US...just read the Herald and look around you. There are no large corportations headquartered in Miami...so all of the jobs are based on services.

People that buy these high rises are not locals. You can not buy a million dollar pad on a $25,000/year job.

Miami is a Latin American City not just in the disparity between the poor and the rich but also in the high level of corruption that exists in the city and the county. And as far as crime goes...every day there are multiple shooting, babies being raped and people disappearing...it is no utopia. Watch the news and read the papers. The crime is scary. And to make things worse like a Latin American city people do not respect the traffic laws...When was the last time that you saw someone stop at a stop sign?

Don't fool yourself...Just live in any other LARGE metro area and you will see the difference.

smiley
April 8th, 2004, 06:17 PM
Whatever. Don't mind Samba-man, he just like to annoy people. Like most other metros, Miami has places with lots of money, places with some money and places with little money. It is probably average - but with lots of rich Latin AMericans, Israelis, Euros and New Yorkers skewing things a bit.

smiley
April 8th, 2004, 06:19 PM
Oh yea, la-de-da, just some more huge condos for Miami. Big deal. Show me something new. I wouldn't worry about hem getting built. IF they don't something else will. The one thing I do notice though is actuall how far apart the buildings in this picutre are:
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/BallinBoi316/brickell.jpg

Kind of odd - it is dense and not dense at the same time. Too much surface parking.

MIAballinboi
April 8th, 2004, 09:00 PM
hey smiley your reposting my original pic, and wasting my bandiwth :bash:


lol just playing man, its a cool pic, i want everyyyyyonnnne to see it! :drunk: :cheers:

Rx727sfl2002
April 9th, 2004, 12:21 AM
One Thing Miami Prides Itself On Is Nice Cars...So We Need Those Parking Towers For Our Automobiles.

Surface Parking Lot?

Hmm Just Remember Most of the Small Buildings You See Now Are Waiting For Wrecking Balls, And Not Because They Are Old But Becuase Bigger, And Better Things Are Coming In Its Place.

Related Group Owns Alot Of Parcels To The North, And Beacon Tower Shall Be Rising Soon, Also Millenium Partners Have Brickell Commons, And Lets Not Forget Mary Brickell Village, And Also Summit Brickell Has 2 More Phases To Go On Its Buildings.

"LOOK AT MY POST ON MARY BRICKELL VILLAGE SO YOU GET THE IDEA"

mike18
April 9th, 2004, 01:53 AM
ok im kinda offended about the whole poor miami this, yes it is the porrest metro-area in the U.S. but the economy here is getting sooo much better and last year it came up one spot.Miami is a great city and the only rewson its the poorest is because when they give those statistics they only speak of the City of miami which is basically downtown and little more, which is were all the immigrants live because the core hasnt been revitalized yet.If you go to ne suburb then we'll so whos rich because honeslty down here the last this you need is more rich ppl we have tons. Ne wyaz it really shows the caracter of this city when you have constnt immigration and evne with all of those new people you can still become one of the largest and most important metreo areas in the richest country in the world.by the way these are just some of the obvious companies headquartered here.
-Perry Eliis
_burger king
- Carnival worth over 10 billion
-royal carribean
-lennar corp
These are the ones i know because they're like coca cola in Atlanta obvious. Besides after downtowns revitalixation it'll all change because almost every company based in palm beach or fort lauderedale or boca raton was started in miami but after they grow they live because the city of miami is not that good a place to live however thats changing.Finally, if miami gets the Headquarters of the Free Trade Areas of the Americas its become an economic powerhouse in the World. Miami, poor, please, not for long?

Lee
April 9th, 2004, 02:59 AM
Lee you are sooo wrong. Miami Is very poor ....just go slightly west from Brickell and you will be in the third world. MIAMI IS the POOREST Large Metro Area in the US...just read the Herald and look around you. There are no large corportations headquartered in Miami...so all of the jobs are based on services.

People that buy these high rises are not locals. You can not buy a million dollar pad on a $25,000/year job.

Miami is a Latin American City not just in the disparity between the poor and the rich but also in the high level of corruption that exists in the city and the county. And as far as crime goes...every day there are multiple shooting, babies being raped and people disappearing...it is no utopia. Watch the news and read the papers. The crime is scary. And to make things worse like a Latin American city people do not respect the traffic laws...When was the last time that you saw someone stop at a stop sign?

Don't fool yourself...Just live in any other LARGE metro area and you will see the difference.

This is rediculous. Miami is not *very* poor. I don't see guerillas walking around, nor do I see loads of Latin American ghettos. The poor areas of Miami are much better than the poor areas of Latin America. Poor people in Mimai at least have access to modern amenties like water, electricity, and hospitals. Many poor Latin Americans don't have clean water! You coming from Mexico shouldn't even be talking! You want to talk poor? Lets look at why Mexican's make 1/4 less than people from Miami, and have a poverty rate 5x higher tha only the Miami average. You don't know what very poor is, if you define Miami that. Very poor is Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, the outskirts of Sao Paulo, etc. Poor people living in the "fabelas" wished they lived like the poor Miamian. The Miami crime rate now does not even make the top 10. Rio has a crime rate 25x that of Rio, for example, and has a lower rate than basically any Latin American city. This "huge" gap between the rich and the poor is nothing like what found in Central and South America, where you have 2 rich and 200 poor. No sir, in Miami, the middle class dominates. Middle class does not even exist down there!

SambaLover
April 9th, 2004, 03:40 AM
Who the fxck is from Mexico?.... you fool. And it's spelled "Favelas" you green card carrying moron.

BoresvilleMcYawn
April 9th, 2004, 08:51 AM
I thought it was only the poorest CITY not metro?
that's what I read...and miami city is very small city...

Lakelander
April 9th, 2004, 12:45 PM
^I believe you're right, its one of the poorest cities on average, but the city is only around 35 square miles and basically serves Miami-Dade County's inner city.

Rx727sfl2002
April 9th, 2004, 03:30 PM
Downtown Miami Is One Of The Poorest City's
Yes Based On The Fact That Only About 500-1000k People Live There. Then Theres The Service It Pays For Such As The Homeless And The People In Overtown Which Is About Another 12,000 Living Off The City's Resources.

But Miami As A Whole Is A Powerhouse, If You Go To Kendall,Coral Gables, Coconut Grove,Miracle Mile Areas The Per Capita Income There Is Very High Compared To The Nations and im Talking About 66k Per Capita(head) Meaning Once You Divide The Amount Everyone Makes By The Amount Of People... You Get This Average Per Person. Not Bad Based On The Fact That Anywhere Else You Probably Be Looking At 15-30k Per Capita Income. So Based On The Us Census Miami Or South Florida Is In Very Good Conditions.

Lets Not Forget That While The Nation Is Declining In Jobs, And Suffering With The Economy Miami Has Only Been Affected In Its Tourism And Travel And Still It Hasnt Stopped It From Growing And Making Money. That So... IN 2000 The City Went From Having 4 billion Invested In Projects And Infastructure To Now Having Close To 13 Billion Invested The Year 2004. And Still Counting!

House Appreciation Is At Its Highest, While Taxes On Homes Is At Its Lowest In History, Forclosures On Homes Well Miami Has Around 2k Homes On Forclosure. The Nation As A Whole Has 58k Homes On Forclosure. So Miami Being As Big As It Is Is Still Under Alot Of These Negative Numbers.

As Far As Politicians Are Concerned...They Come And Go. No More Red Tape....

MIAballinboi
April 9th, 2004, 03:40 PM
CUT THE CRAP

i didnt open this topic for people to be :bash: each other.

i dont think a poor city would be able to sell out 90% of a project the first week

mike18
April 9th, 2004, 05:38 PM
I agreee with MIA ballinboi. Ne wyaz lets wait till 2013 when many of the major projects are complete and see who's calling who a poor city.

Lee
April 11th, 2004, 06:59 PM
Who the fxck is from Mexico?.... you fool. And it's spelled "Favelas" you green card carrying moron.

You are from Mexico-you said so yourself.

I don't carry a green card, and so what if I did?

Dale
April 12th, 2004, 03:26 PM
Rx -

Jobs are not declining and the economy is not "suffering". I do agree with the rest of your argument however. Overall, Miami is exploding.

Rx727sfl2002
April 13th, 2004, 08:41 AM
Read My Second Paragraph

Miami Is A Powerhouse! Meaning Yes Its Exploding

I Only Stated The Obivuos Truth That Miamithe City Or Cbd(central Businessdistrict ) Is One Of The Poorest Becuaseit Has To Use Its Tax Dollars For Other Things Thats Why The Raod Ar Ethe Way They Are In Downtown.

And Thats Why People Say Its A Poor City But They Dont Know That Overall Miami Is Very Rich...

With All This Contruction Dont Be Surprised The City Will Be Able To Fix Roads Landscaping And Overall The City Will Look Great. Onne Reason Citys Are Good Is Becuase They Have A Huge Amount Of People In A Compact Amount If Space So No Need For A Huge Police Force Or Firestations And Other Or Miles Of Roads To Fix And Repair.

So Dont Misinterpret My Statement Miami Is By Far The Best City In The Us Give It Time It Will Be Like Ny City Without The Snow... :)

Style™
April 13th, 2004, 02:59 PM
Lee, cut it. What is the reason for you to be in this topic? If you think it is worthy, PM it to me. If not, don't waste your time and mine. :)

Dale
April 13th, 2004, 04:16 PM
Rx -

Whom are you addressing ?

thefactor2004
April 20th, 2004, 05:48 AM
Miami is the poorest major city in the United States - as of the last census at least.

But there is a tremendous amount of wealth around the city, and South Florida - as a whole, is far from being poor.

MIAballinboi
April 22nd, 2004, 07:59 PM
the site of marina blue is updated
www.marinablue.com

MIAballinboi
May 7th, 2004, 12:59 AM
57 story tower opus and 60 story marina blue will be developed by:
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check this updated site, it has lots of info
http://www.arquitectonica.com

http://www.markzilbert.com/images/condo_pix/marinablue/night.jpg

also, since most websites say there are two towers i guess the 60 story green part on the left will be one tower, and the blue tower on the right will be 57 stories, so its offically two towers!

miamioneforever
May 8th, 2004, 08:48 AM
Lest talk about Miami Dade.....anyone with statitics....I dont think that the POOREST city should be taken into consideration......MIAMI is a huge city from Kendall to North Miami Beach, Soth Beach to Krome Avenue......LOT OF MONEY...... :drunk: lets jut enjoy our bautiful city and forget about statistics (they are not always right).

empersouf
May 14th, 2004, 12:29 PM
Great towers, I love Miami.

miamirealestatetrend
June 20th, 2004, 07:26 AM
Any more new towers comming up in Ft. Lauderdale?

www.miamirealestatetrends.com

Xzayvier
June 22nd, 2004, 07:13 PM
I was moved to register to this website by both the insightful information posted by many of the users, and also the ill-conceived suggestions posted by the user named SambaLover. Nevertheless, here is what I have to say, first about Miami’s business environment and demographics, and second, the target market of residential high-rise developments, then I will mention a few high-rise projects being built within the Biscayne Corridor.

Not only are there various headquarters based in Miami but many of them are the Latin American Headquarters of major global corporations. Here are a just a few: Paris-based Richmont Group Latin America (owners of Cartier, Mont Blanc, and other luxury brands), HBO Latin America, UPS, American Airlines, Federal Express, UBS, and every major Latin American bank in the hemisphere. As mentioned before, these are only a handful of the companies that have their Latin AMerican headquarters in Miami. Not to mention that there are many companies actively pursuing Latin American headquarters in Miami: Porsche and Kraft Foods, just to name two. Also, various markets are doing extraordinarily well in Miami. For example, Miami’s luxury hotel market was stagnating in 1994—two years after Hurricane Andrew. Now, Four Season’s has opened the Millenium Tower (their tallest North American hotel) on Brickell. Various 5-star hotels have opened in Miami: the Mandarin Oriental on Brickell Key, the Ritz-Carlton Group has an astounding four resorts in Miami (Coconut Grove, Key Biscayne, Aventura, and South Beach), M Hotels is opeing its first, the Ian Schreiger Hotel Group has two (Delano, Shore Club, Trump Sonesta, and the highly sucessful Loews Miami Beach. Here are a few more that are coming soon: The Regent, The Setai, Island Gardens, Conrad, and Canyon Ranch.

Miami is a center of Latin American media and entertainment, serving as a sort of Latin American Hollywood—where Latin celebrities live, work, and play. It is rapidly being embraced by North Americans as their version of the French Riviera except more tropical, new, diverse, and excessive. Trump is investing heavily in Miami with a group of major projects in Sunny Isles, which is likely just a hint of future more ambitious involvement in the area. The second richest man in the world, Warren Buffet, just directed one of his companies to buy local EWM realty. Silicon Valley billionaires Jim Clark and Tom Jermoluk are investing hundreds of millions of dollars in Miami. Are we to imagine that these brilliant businessmen are doing this without demand? The Swire Group, a fortune-500 Hong Kong based British company is investing heavily in Miami—touting it as the Hong Kong of the west. Major developers from Houston, Ohio, Canada, and Mexico are also engaged in heavy developmental activity. Miami International Airport’s 5+ billion dollar expansion project is one of the most expensive and most ambitious in the world.

It is not a mere coincidence that Miami is the front-runner candidate-city to host the secretariat (headquarters) for the proposed Free Trade Area of the Americas, which will be the largest free-trade area in the world--representing the economic interests of 800 million consumers and 14 trillion dollars in trade. Florida, South Florida (Tri-county area) to be exact, handles more trade with Latin America (except Mexico) than THE REST OF THE NATION COMBINED!
Miami is extraordinary. Miami is an anomaly in the evolution of modern cities.
60% of Miami's residents were born outside of the U.S. and speak Spanish daily.

Miami is undisputably progressive and international. Miami is the only truly bi-lingual metropolis in the hemisphere—a place where Spanish is spoken as commonly if not more commonly (depending on which area) than English. Due to the aforementioned fact, thousands of white collar Latin American transplants are flooding to Miami to live and do business. They are Venezuelan, Colombian, Ecuadorian, Brazilian, and Panamanian; representatives from every nation in the hemisphere. These foreign transplants have added to the already rich ethnic fold that thrives in Miami in the form of local ethnic food, music, and film festivals.

Concerning mixed use (mostly Condo) high rise developments in Miami and who's buying them, well, it takes a narrow minded individual to assume that the household incomes of residents falling within the city of Miami boundaries has anything to do with who is buying condos in the city of Miami. The city of Miami is small and somewhat poor, agreed. However certainly not anything like Latin American cities. Importantly, the city of Miami is also relatively small (approximately the size of JFK airport in NYC) with a small population of about 370,000 people compared to Jacksonville’s 700,000 residents. But do not be fooled, Miami-Dade County is enormous, with over 2 million residents. The majority of these residents are hard-working, educated, and middle class—many of which are Hispanic, however they are only a fraction of the target market for Miami's high-end residential high-rises. Miami, being an international city, has accrued tremendous international interest. Developers are targeting wealthy Latin Americans as much, if not more so, than Greater Miami residents. Furthermore, investors in New York City have historically shown consistent interest in the city’s development, but this is the case NOW more than ever; from restaurateurs to hoteliers, New York City investors are flooding into their “sixth borough”. Developer’s such as Jorge Perez, Anthony DeFortuna, Tom Jermoluk, Jim Clark, Ugo Colombo, Tibor Hollo, Pedro Martin, and the many others are advertising HEAVILY in Latin American magazines, airline magazines, and U.S. magazines and newspapers that target the affluent and educated. They even go so far as to sponsor modeling or sporting events in Mexico or elsewhere in Latin America. So, there is a demand for these expensive condo-residents in the city of Miami, except the demand is not confined to Miami’s city limits.

I recently purchased a condo in one of Miami’s newest and tallest developments (under construction) My unit is on the 41st floor. I also work in downtown Miami with a beautiful view of the skyline. To think of Miami as resembling anything like SambaLover described it is unfounded. Let us be sensible and not mistake tragic homelessness and city-crime for third-world poverty and a place where “babies get raped”. I walk the streets of Miami’s city core everyday and I feel safe. I have even driven them at odd hours of the night—something I have done out of necessity. Barely anyone lives in Downtown right now. That will not be the case in 7 years.

Here are a few buildings that I would like to mention, all of which are being constructed within the Biscayne Corridor (between I-395 and the 112 or between the Macarthur and Julia Tuttle Causeways. This area, in my opinion, does not get enough attention yet is one of the most exciting up-and-coming communities in the Miami city center.
Opus -- 57 stories – Hyperion – website not available
Opera Tower -- 56 Stories – www.operatower.com
1800 Club -- 40 stories – website not available
Quantum on the Bay – www.quantumcondos.com
South Tower-- 51 stories
North Tower -- 44 stories
Blue on the Bay – 36 stories— www.bluecondos.com
Ice Lofts -- 34 stories – www.majesticproperties.com
Platinum -- 22 stories – www.platinumcondo.com
Onyx on the Bay -- Phase I, 28 stories— www.onyxmiami.com
Star Lofts on the Bay -- 26 stories – www.starlofts.com
Midtown Miami (18-square block development, 3000 condos, 1,000,000 sq feet of retail) www.midtownmiami.com
Cite on the Bay -- 15 stories, village-like complex – www.citeonthebay.com
*do not be fooled by the low amount of floors on the “Loft” high rises because some of the unit ceiling heights rise above 15 feet up to 20 feet.

When all the above buildings are constructed, as most of them are likely to be, the skyline to the right or north of those driving west on the Macarthur causeway from South Beach, will be filled with beautiful sleek new high-rises where now there stand none. Downtown Miami will be dissected and renamed into various distinct districts in the future; in many respects it already is, and the whole of the Central Business District, in about 7 years, will appear unlike anything that both residents and past visitors can dare to imagine.

SkyDiveJunkee
June 22nd, 2004, 08:25 PM
Very informative post, I didn't know so many New York developers are interested in Miami. Exciting indeed! I think what excites me most about Miami is the pure refined elegance of the luxury hotels, restaurants, apartments, and clubs in Miami Beach. This is obviously due to the deco style, which I love so much, and I'm loving the quality that is almost becoming a standard, especially in the highrise structures going up downtown.

Thanks for all that info!

streetscapeer
June 23rd, 2004, 07:04 PM
thanks xzayvier for the thorough analysis......and I just can't wait for all these projects to get built!!

ChuckScraperMiami#1
October 13th, 2004, 03:07 AM
AWESOME NEWS XZAYVIER :) , MIAMI Has got the Towers for the Future, HERE IN 6 YEARS or LESS, I say.. GREAT WEB SITES Listed BELOW in POST # 35, I'm LOOKING AT THE INTEREST RATES Going Down again at www.interest.com STILL HOLDING low. :cheers:

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October 13th, 2004, 04:35 AM
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check this updated site, it has lots of info
http://www.arquitectonica.com

http://www.markzilbert.com/images/condo_pix/marinablue/night.jpg

also, since most websites say there are two towers i guess the 60 story green part on the left will be one tower, and the blue tower on the right will be 57 stories, so its offically two towers!

are these blue and green lights just part of the model or actually gonna b part of the building, all bank of america tower style?

that would be so amazing, without a doubt one of my top 5 favorites in miami

ChuckScraperMiami#1
November 7th, 2004, 06:02 AM
GREAT NIMBY :) , That Arquitectonica is the BEST Archectects Around MIAMI and the WORLD, Great PICS there too, Fantastic ! :cheers:

ChuckScraperMiami#1
November 11th, 2004, 07:28 PM
MARINA BLUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, !!! My Favorite TOWER, lol, at www.arquitectonica.com I love THIS GROUP :) , and its Based HERE IN MIAMI, The NEW United States Courthouse is almost COMPLETED ALL GREEN :) , Awesome in Central Downtown MIAMI, THE OPUS Condo TOWER 1 at 57 Stories, Same Group, THE BENTLEY BAY and BEACH TOWERS, done by this Group, and NOW I heard THE Marquis- OLD HO JO Hotel could be taking a Design from this Group, too, :) WOW Another 50 - 60 Story TOWER, FANTASTIC !!! :cheers:

ZuluKingOfTheDwarfPeople
November 11th, 2004, 07:56 PM
I thought Cleveland was the poorest city in the US...

Dale
November 11th, 2004, 08:29 PM
True, at #5, Miami no longer occupies the top spot.

ChuckScraperMiami#1
November 16th, 2004, 03:14 AM
BUILD , BUILD , BUILD, The More we Build , the LESS the POOR !

south florida dave
November 16th, 2004, 04:59 AM
^eh, i don't think so chuck. more building means more rich people. the poor just get pushed aside.

wish it was that simple, though.

logybogy
November 16th, 2004, 10:44 AM
it's gentrification.

Basically, all this building will make downtown miami a rich city in the long run. But the poor residents in areas like Overtown won't benefit. You think they can afford a luxury condo at $500,000? Yeah, right.

They'll just be "displaced" and moved to other areas of Miami-Dade and Broward.

Of course, for a lot of people, this is a good thing. They don't want to look at a ghetto in downtown, but it's just moving the problem to another city or area of miami.

BHK24
November 16th, 2004, 02:32 PM
I don't think Miami is the poorest major met area in the US, I don't think is a Latin American city neither. I seen those places in Latin America and the poorest place in Miami is nothing compared to some places in Latin America. and from what I've seen some areas in Detroit and Cleveland look much much poorer than Miami. Those projects will help the city and make it even more beautiful than it is.

BHK24
November 16th, 2004, 02:35 PM
I have a question, Ten Museum, how tall its gonna be? it looks taller than the Wachovia tower in the pictures? am i wrong?

The Mad Hatter!!
November 16th, 2004, 10:09 PM
no its only like 500 ft-or 600

MIAballinboi
November 17th, 2004, 12:19 AM
585 feet

its way exaggerated but its still a good height

BHK24
November 17th, 2004, 12:24 AM
Great. Thanks for the info.

ISG
November 17th, 2004, 03:32 AM
MARINA BLUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, !!! My Favorite TOWER, lol, at www.arquitectonica.com I love THIS GROUP :) , and its Based HERE IN MIAMI, The NEW United States Courthouse is almost COMPLETED ALL GREEN :) , Awesome in Central Downtown MIAMI, THE OPUS Condo TOWER 1 at 57 Stories, Same Group, THE BENTLEY BAY and BEACH TOWERS, done by this Group, and NOW I heard THE Marquis- OLD HO JO Hotel could be taking a Design from this Group, too, :) WOW Another 50 - 60 Story TOWER, FANTASTIC !!! :cheers:

And don't forget they also did BLUEEEEEEEE... my personal favorite.

ChuckScraperMiami#1
December 20th, 2004, 05:39 AM
585 feet

its way exaggerated but its still a good height
TRUE MIAballinboi :) SO TRUE,,,,,, :cheers:

ChuckScraperMiami#1
December 27th, 2004, 04:11 AM
MIAballinboi :) , BOVIS Construction Group Developing TEN MUSEUM PARK Condo TOWER is MY Favorite WORLD Construction Company. Its TIME of Completing World PROJECTS on Schedule is What I like. THIS 50 -STORY TOWER will be HUGE and will look like a TALL SKINNY ICE CUBE :) when Completed in LATE 2006, AT Very CLOSE to 600 FEET :cheers: .
It will be all WHITE and will SHINE Over the Turning Bay Basin of the Port Of MIAMI. :cheers:
IT WILL BE OPEN for the January, 2007 SUPERBOWL :) and ON TIME for its Almost SOLD OUT Resisdents to MOVE IN. YOU CAN BET ON " BOVIS " for getting the JOB DONE RIGHT !!! :cheers:
Also , Everyone :) , PLEASE Check it Out, The Interest Rates have fallen Slightly at 5.49 % at www.interest.com :) THIS IS So Important On More Towers To go UP and Panning for More on the Drawing Boards For the FUTURE of This GREAT BOOM. :cheers:

nimbyhater
December 28th, 2004, 09:08 PM
passed by the site on the metro mover yest, and saw that construction is well under way at ten museum park, lotsa site work goin on, theyre already a story or two down doin wat i can only presume is foundation work... cant say much for the 900 biscayne and marina blue sites, nothing seems to be goin on and there is still part of a previous building left on one of the sites... hope work starts soon, cause ill take either of these two buildings of ten museum park any day and they are definetly goin to be one of the two best buildings in all of miami, and having these three side by side along wit that is planned by that africa- israel investor group is gonna put miami's skyline on the architectural map