http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm136/patlite_boy/ck_desktop001.jpg
photos courtesy of: Tim Varquez

This is a bit OT (probably should be in the armed forces thread but the photo was posted here) but it's still related to Clark...what happened to the F4 Phantoms after the Americans pulled out in the early 90s? Were they ever redeployed or given away as aid (the US stopped using them in 1996 but some 7 countries still have them in active service)? Or are they baking in the aircraft cemeteries in the southwestern US? Or have they already been used up as UAV targets?

While the F4 is a 50 year old aircraft it has pretty much a good record...and the Phil. Airforce can make good use of them in lieu of the WWII vintage "tora-tora" planes. One major thing going against its use by the PAF is its flying cost ... over $6000 per flying hour, plus almost $4000 maintenance cost per flying hour.:ohno:

nasa anderson air base Guam nila inilipat noon umalis sila sa Clark with the 13th air force and they transfer to Hickam AFB,Hawaii..if you go to Anderson AFB,Guam..nakadisplay na lang sa base yun last phantom plane na umalis sa Clark AFB..

Air traffic boom at Clark airport
Friday, August 20, 2010

CLARK FREEPORT --- The Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA), the country's second premier gateway after the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA), is experiencing an air traffic boom.

Victor Jose Luciano, president of Clark International Airport Corporation (CIAC), said this is an indication that business is thriving in the Central Luzon region.

Luciano even attributed the success of DMIA, which is under the control and management of CIAC, with the influx of big-ticket investors and tourists into Clark.

The CIAC head, who has been responsible for converting the military airport into a hub of budget airlines, has effectively lured several airlines into making DMIA their regular destination in the Philippines.

Luciano started with CIAC as its president in September 2006 but he's been with Clark Development Corporation as its executive vice president since June 2001. One of his main functions was in aviation.

"We took over a moribund airport. It was dormant for more than a decade, from 1990 since the Mount Pinatubo eruption until late 2001. Pero sayang, infrastructure was already there. We've learned there were potential investors but all of them didn't continue. Puro maiden flights," he said.

Before the Americans left Clark, they already made it as the only airport outside continental US that can land a space shuttle.

Luciano, being a marketing person, knew what he was talking about. His experience with the private sector as manager for Asiana Airlines, a Korean company, was very helpful.

First to come in, according to Luciano, was the United Parcel Service (UPS), which made its maiden flights in 2002. Since then, UPS has Clark as its inter-Asia hub. Packages from Europe and the US are being sorted out in Clark for distribution in nearby Asian countries.

As a former Asiana executive, Luciano was also instrumental in luring in his former employer to make DMIA their base in the country.

"Even though I came from them, it wasn't that easy. Korean-based Asiana Airlines already had flights in NAIA. I travelled back and forth to Seoul and personally talked with the top executive. I brought them here and showed them our tourism potential. I let them play golf in Clark and even in Hacienda Luisita. They were thrilled," he recounts.

From chartered flights twice a week, it became daily until 11 times a week. The volume of Korean tourists increased as months went by.

"They were initially avid golfers who eventually brought in their family for long vacations, especially during winter. Soon, bigger planes were needed. Koreans came in not only as tourists but as investors, students and many as permanent residents. The revenue of Angeles City also doubled. More than that, Asiana Airlines' business grew because of the Philippine market," said Luciano.

"When I was with them, it was a raising airline. Now it's the second flag carrier in Korea. Here in the Philippines, after 16 years of operation, in terms of international volume, it's probably the second to Cathay Pacific. Ang laki rin ng transformation niya," Luciano recounts.

About 90 percent of Asiana's passengers are Koreans. Filipinos and other passengers can go to the US and other major destination from Clark and vice-versa though Asiana Airlines with no worries of diverted flights.

With the planes coming in -- both commercial and industrial -- business is thriving in the once ghostly Clark, which was almost inundated by the eruption of Mount Pinatubo.

Now, there are more than 300 companies/locators based inside the Clark Freeport zone, many from business processing and outsourcing (BPOs) firms to tourism and aviation.

Of late, DMIA proved to be the best choice for diverted flights from NAIA 1, 2 and 3 when there's bad weather.

Luciano has more plans for CIAC. One, he hopes that more airline companies, the flag carries, will make DMIA their base in Asia.

"We have a bigger airport and the rates here, as we all know, are more affordable than in Manila. Because of new innovations like SCTEX and NLEX, travel time to and from Clark is faster and easier now. More import, because of less or no air pollution at all to speak of, the skies in Clark are much, much cleaner. What more can you ask for?" Luciano said.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/pampanga/air-traffic-boom-clark-airport

nasa anderson air base Guam nila inilipat noon umalis sila sa Clark with the 13th air force and they transfer to Hickam AFB,Hawaii..if you go to Anderson AFB,Guam..nakadisplay na lang sa base yun last phantom plane na umalis sa Clark AFB..

That's interesting to know. Thanks.

DMIA heads for continuous growth (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=603409&publicationSubCategoryId=67)

By Rainier Allan Ronda (The Philippine Star)
Updated August 17, 2010 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - With persistent navigational aid and equipment woes at Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) continuing to send them diverted to international and domestic flights, and the North Luzon Expressway, and the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway making it more accessible to Manila, the Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) said that the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) is headed for tremendous growth in the immediate future.

Victor Jose Luciano, president of the CIAC, said that they are very bullish over the prospects of the DMIA, especially in its ability to lure more international airlines to operate more flights from their airport.

Luciano said that the continued boom in tourist arrivals, especially from Korea, is fuelling the continued rise of the DMIA as a premier international gateway of the Philippines.

He noted that high arrival numbers of foreign tourists has even led to a Korea Town rising inside the Clark Freeport.

“Seeing retired American soldiers is as common as meeting a group of young Korean students. That’s how Clark has become ever-growing and dynamic,” said Luciano.

Luciano said the CIAC was committed in its role to develop the DMIA into an international airport that can support the country’s bid to become a tiger economy.

“What is the role of airports in the life of a country? Airport drives the country’s economy,” Luciano said.

“As they say, Singapore as an island-nation will not be Singapore without Changi Airport. What’s important is the access of foreign countries to our country, either passenger or cargo. You can’t limit it in shipping only,” he said.

Having been an executive of the Clark Development Corp. before assuming the top post at the CIAC, Luciano said he was a witness to the phenomenal growth of the Clark Freeport to the progressive economic zone it has become today.

Luciano started with CIAC as its president in September 2006. But he has been with CDC as its executive vice president since June 2001. One of his main functions was in aviation.

“We took over a moribund airport. It was dormant for more than a decade, from 1990 since the Mount Pinatubo eruption until late 2001. The infrastructure was already there. We’ve learned there were potential investors but all of them didn’t continue. Most were maiden flights,” he recalled.

Now there are more than 300 companies – they called them locators – based inside the Freeport Zone, many from business processing and outsourcing (BPOs) firms to tourism, aviation and food and entertainment.

Of late, DMIA proved to be the best choice for diverted flights from NAIA 1, 2 and 3 when there’s bad weather.

Luciano said that the CIAC has more plans for the DMIA, especially in getting local carriers to operate more flights of the airport.l

I really wish to see DMIA's Growth in 3 years. :)

Hindi na kita papatulan, okay lang naman ang mga sinabi mo, sorry lang duon sa mga nasagasaan ng hindi sinasadya, hindi ko nilalahat. Yuong isa lang naman talaga ang grabe na wala sa lugar ang banat at edad ang laging pinagmamalaki. Yuong isa, mabait na bata naman yan at may sense naman ang sinasabi. Ang saakin lang kung hindi iniiintindi mabuti ang sinasabi, tagalog man o english, huwag na lang sumabat ng wala sa lugar. Ignorance na yan kahit ang rason ay nanggaling sa mas may nakakaalam sa kanya (not necessarily myself...)labas tuloy niya makitid ang isip sa mga nakakabasa ng sinasabi niya.

parang alam ko na kung sino un.. hehe sa totoo lang medyo hindi ko lang talaga nagustuhan ung ("kayong mga forummers na kapangpangan", hindi dahil sa "kapampangan" un at hindi rin dahil sa nilahat mo, kundi ung phrase mismo. so bati na tayo? hehe

^^

http://www.prlog.org/10165948-attachment.jpg :lol:

di pa rin ginagamit yung bagong gawa

parang alam ko na kung sino un.. hehe sa totoo lang medyo hindi ko lang talaga nagustuhan ung ("kayong mga forummers na kapangpangan", hindi dahil sa "kapampangan" un at hindi rin dahil sa nilahat mo, kundi ung phrase mismo. so bati na tayo? hehe

sige batihin mo na lang ako, pero hindi na bagay sa akin ang circle jerk kase lampas na ako ng malaki sa puberty and preadolesent stage kaya magisa ka na lang !!!! :rofl: Peace naman ako sa iyo dahil naintindihan ko ang ikinagalit mo, nagkamali nga ako ng sinulat pero hindi ko talaga nilalahat, yuong mga concern lang ang ibig kong sabihin.


Anyway, when it comes to development of DMIA, I do not oppose to it because I know it's a good thing for the economy now that more foreign airlines are using DMIA. I know inspite of the distance, those who are still in Manila would be able to manage to get to Clark. Why not? other pinoys travels to Manila for NAIA whenever they have to go out of the country. There are express way anyway. It would just be the other way around now for Manila residents. My only thing is that, we can't just fully rejoice and too ecstatic about the developments in DMIA because I still see NAIA as a hindrance especially before the Phil gov victory in Singapore Arbitrary court. Maybe now it will change a little bit besides, even if NAIA would still remain and becomes a secondary gateway to the Philippines and DMIA is the premier gateway, the would be able to coexist, heck, there are how many pinoys now? 100 million? Manila and the areas north of Manila would probably has atleast 45 million plus the tourists and since now the airfares in the Philippines are cheaper...I don't see why it would not take off.

Anyway, when it comes to development of DMIA, I do not oppose to it because I know it's a good thing for the economy now that more foreign airlines are using DMIA. I know inspite of the distance, those who are still in Manila would be able to manage to get to Clark. Why not? other pinoys travels to Manila for NAIA whenever they have to go out of the country. There are express way anyway. It would just be the other way around now for Manila residents.

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Manila and the areas north of Manila would probably has atleast 45 million plus the tourists and since now the airfares in the Philippines are cheaper...I don't see why it would not take off.

One of the reasons I would choose CRK over MNL when traveling as a tourist is that the flights leave in the afternoon, and not at night, at least in the case of AirAsia and Tiger Airways (but not Cebu Pacific). That way, my 3days2nights tour package will have more daylight hours and not 1st night = arrival night. Somehow I pity the poor travelers who do not know better as to how travel agencies and/or airlines formulate their tour packages (3D2N is more like 48+ hours rather than 60+hours).

That is good to know., actually, that is very interesting to know. That proves the fact that the people would have better choices when traveling...

That is good to know., actually, that is very interesting to know. That proves the fact that the people would have better choices when traveling...

Yes, I always consider the departure times outbound as well as the arrival times inbound when I plan for a 3D2N or 4D3N trip. I've come to the conclusion that when travel time to the destination involves flights more than 3 hours one way, the minimum no. of days for the vacation to be worth it (sulit) would be 4D3N, even considering the scenario where you will be spending most of the 1st and 4th days traveling. At least there are 2 whole days for spending at the destination.

However, there are cases where even in domestic travel, 3D2N is not worth it so I'd recommend 4D3N. An example would be PAL to GES where departures are in the mornings (0700H) and the return trip would be also morning (1000H) of day 3. Now with Cebu Pacific offering flights back to MNL from GES at 1450H (since they have 2 flights), you can split your flying on two carriers and have more ground time in GES.

With international Cebu Pacific comes out a bad deal for destinations where they fly only once a day (which is usually at night, after 8PM). Case in point would be MNLKUL where you depart on day 1 at 2055H, and return on day 3 at 0120H ... 3D2N for a total of a little under 30 hours! And since you arrive early morning of the 2nd day, you are still bound to take a hotel booking for a shortened stay, plus the second night on day 2 which really doesn't make sense since you're supposed to fly out on early morning of day 3!:bash:

So the solution to this is too book for 4D3N (which gives 2 full nights sleeping in a hotel) or to just book the flights separate from the hotel bookings, and then just stay out late on the last night before the flight back to MNL. Which works to the advantage of Cebu Pacific anyway since they are more interested in profiting from their flights rather than selling full package tours (which PAL still does through their Swingaround packages).

Sorry, a bit OT again since this is the Clark thread. But you can still use the same analogy for CRKMFM on Cebu Pacific. But in this scenario, the 3D2N schedules allow for more than 48 hours total since the flights back to MNL leave at late in the evening, not early morning.

sige batihin mo na lang ako, pero hindi na bagay sa akin ang circle jerk kase lampas na ako ng malaki sa puberty and preadolesent stage kaya magisa ka na lang !!!! :rofl: Peace naman ako sa iyo dahil naintindihan ko ang ikinagalit mo, nagkamali nga ako ng sinulat pero hindi ko talaga nilalahat, yuong mga concern lang ang ibig kong sabihin.



aba suplado! eh di wag. magisa ka rin!!!

di naman, major major lang :rofl:

Metro Pacific to hire experts for airport deal
Written by Lenie Lectura / Reporter
Tuesday, 24 August 2010 14:34

METRO Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC), which is keen on building a multibillion-peso passenger terminal at the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA), is in talks with several advisors knowledgeable in airport engineering and design.

“The first step is identify the technical advisors. We are not familiar with the airport design and construction. So, we are talking to several but there is no position yet,” said Manuel V. Pangilinan, MPIC chairman, at an ambush interview yesterday.

Once MPIC has selected an advisor it will then wait for a complete study which would then be the basis of the company’s decision on whether to really push through or not with the airport project in Clark, Pampanga, said Pangilinan.

But Pangilinan’s interest is solely on an airport project and not on acquiring an airline.

“Running an airport is different from running an airline. Most of the variables going on in an airline are beyond your control. Number one is the price of fuel which is more than 50 percent of your operating expense. Number 2 is weather. Number 3 is economic conditions abroad. That’s a tough business,” said Pangilinan when asked to comment on rumors that he could be interested in buying into Philippine Airlines (PAL).

Earlier, PAL president Jaime Bautista said the flag carrier was not in talks with either Pangilinan nor with Ramon S. Ang, president of San Miguel Corp. (SMC).

“Those that are interested to invest in PAL are more of investment banks. We are talking to them now,” Bautista said earlier.

MPIC is also teaming up with diversifying conglomerate SMC to jointly build the new terminal.  But Pangilinan said the technical advisor will be solely for MPIC and not for the joint venture firm. “We would recommend to them. I assume they also don’t have any knowledge in airport also. It is best to have somebody that has run an airport before,” said Pangilinan.

Both companies confirmed that they are in talks with one another with respect to the construction of a modern terminal building at the DMIA in the Clark Freeport, Angeles City, Pampanga.

They intend to transform the DMIA into a world-class passenger terminal featuring a high-speed commuter rail system connecting DMIA and Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Manila. The project, estimated to cost around $150 million, will be able to accommodate up to 10 million passengers a year when completed.

^^ hmm, mukhang matagal pa yan mga 6mos pa siguro bago sila magbid... yun kayang malaysian consortium na sinasabi nila may study na kaya para dun sa proposal nila??

may proposal ba na walang study?

^^
Metro Pacific to hire experts for airport deal


And that means new master plan again. Oh boy! What a waste of government expenditure.

Why can't they just adopt the Korean model?

Please see my postings about the constructions of the Philippines’ very first Aerotropolis at Clark.

Clark and Subic Infrastructure Thread

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=62676395#post62676395

Share ko lang isa pang picture ng a380 nung dumating sa Clark. Medyo malayo lang pagkakakuha halos vertical stabilizer and ATC tower nalang ang kita.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm136/patlite_boy/1_166923604l.jpg

^^ It's not even discernable. :(

Public-Private Coalition lists P160-billion 'ready-to-go' projects
By Iris C. Gonzales (The Philippine Star) Updated August 31, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)


MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine Public-Private (PPP) Coalition for infrastructure projects has made a list of “ready-to-go” projects costing a total of nearly P160 billion that may be implemented by the Aquino administration immediately under its planned public and private sector partnership.

According to documents prepared by the Research, Education & Institutional, Development Foundation Inc. (REID), a member of the PPP Coalition, the government can start with four or five “ready-to-go” projects.

These include the P13.9-billion Cavite-Laguna Expressway, a second terminal of the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in Clark, Pampanga amounting to P7.6 billion and a high-speed rail from DMIA to central business districts amounting to P138 billion. These projects have a combined cost of P159.5 billion.

The Coalition, composed of the Philippine Constructors Association, Bankers Association of the Philippines, Investment Houses Association of the Philippines and REID Foundation, made another list consisting “pipeline projects.”

These include various water projects such as Bulacan treated bulk water supply project amounting to P5.5 billion, the Marikina River basin sewer system, amounting to P7 billion and the San Juan River basin sewer system amount-ing to P14 billion and the Boracay water and sewerage system amounting to P1.1 billion.

The Coalition said the next step is for the government to approve the list of projects and to recommend to President Benigno Aquino III the creation of a PPP Infrastructure Council to review major policy issues and uncork interagency bottlenecks.

Finance Secretary Cesar Purisima has said the Aquino administration is considering proposals from multilateral agencies to set up an entity that would handle the planned multi-billion dollar infrastructure fund.

Purisima said the financing entity would be patterned after India’s Infrastructure Development Finance Co. Ltd. (IDFC).

IDFC, according to information posted on its website, is India’s leading integrated infrastructure finance player providing end-to-end infrastructure financing and project implementation services.

The idea is for the entity to handle funds that would be pooled from investors, fund managers, and other multilateral agencies to finance various infrastructure projects in the Philippines.

The fund would finance infrastructure projects under the proposed Private-Public Partnership announced by President Aquino during his State of the Nation Address last June.

The end-goal, he said, is to enable the government to put in place the necessary infrastructure that would make the country attractive to investors.

Faced with a budget deficit that is projected to hit P325 billion this year, the Aquino administration wants to use government funds mainly for social services and tap private sector help for needed infrastructure projects.

Share ko lang isa pang picture ng a380 nung dumating sa Clark. Medyo malayo lang pagkakakuha halos vertical stabilizer and ATC tower nalang ang kita.

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm136/patlite_boy/1_166923604l.jpg

Kala ko po malaki A380, bat di ata makita.:ohno::ohno:

Kala ko po malaki A380, bat di ata makita.:ohno::ohno:

^^pasensya na malayo na kase ang kuha katapat sya ng ATC. just wanted to share my picture and to keep this thread rollin.:)

Clark International Airport Corp. ends lease deal with Farm Fresh 25

Written by Lenie Lectura / Reporter
Thursday, 02 September 2010 11:27

THE Clark International Airport Corp. (Ciac) has terminated the lease agreement with a company that is operated by the son of a Pampanga mayor.

The contract with Farm Fresh 25 had been terminated by Victor Jose I. Luciano, president and chief executive officer of Ciac. 

Luciano, in a notice of termination sent to Patrick Pelayo, son of Candaba Mayor Jerry Pelayo and the president of Farm Fresh 25, said the company committed violations of the lease agreement that was signed on July 31, 2009. Farm Fresh 25, Luciano added, also failed to correct these violations.

Among the violations cited by Luciano is the nonpayment of advance lease payment and performance security upon the execution of the agreement.

The nonpayment was not corrected despite written and verbal reminder by the Legal and Finance Department of Clark Development Corp. (CDC).

The advance lease payment, equivalent to six months’ lease, to be paid upon the execution of the agreement, was paid only on Dec. 3, 2009, or five months after the signing of the lease agreement.

Also, the performance security, equivalent to 5 percent of the investment commitment, or P500,000, also to be paid upon the execution of the agreement, was paid only on Jan. 19.

The check used for the settlement of this company’s obligation under the lease was drawn against “insufficient fund” and was settled only three days later.

Luciano also said Farm Fresh 25 was also found to have started construction on its assigned site on May 29, 2009, without the necessary building permits.

This was done two months before the execution of the lease agreement.

Several verbal reminders and letters were given by Ciac to Farm Fresh 25 about the violation.  Likewise, the Building Utilities Regulatory Department (BURD) of the CDC had also sent notices of violation, but the company never responded.

In fact, the CDC’s legal department had scheduled two meetings with the BURD and Farm Fresh 25, but the latter still failed to send any representative to the meetings.

Also, Farm Fresh 25 was found renovating Building 7029, a structure at the back of the Flying V station which is not covered by the lease agreement, and is, therefore, considered by Ciac as illegal.

The company also ignored repeated notices to stop the renovation.

Further, the company subleased the area under the lease agreement to Hyundai IT Corp., a company engaged in the manufacture of digital display products, which used it as an IT warehouse, but such sublease is in violation of the lease agreement with Farm Fresh 25.

Another violation cited by Ciac is the failure of Farm Fresh 25 to pay the minimum guaranteed lease (MGL) provided for under the lease agreement from February 2010 to July 2010.

The unpaid MGL, which was set at the rate of $0.10 per sq m, has amounted to $12,728.82. Because of these violations, Ciac issued a notice of termination of the lease effective Aug. 1, which was received by Farm Fresh 25 office in Clark.

The violations also prompted Ciac not to endorse Farm Fresh 25’s request for permit to operate to the CDC, Ciac’s mother company.

Farm Fresh 25, which is involved in food hub business with just-in-time capability for exports, had leased 25,879 sq m in Clark’s Building 7194 and 4,298 sq m in Building 7204 located at the Clark Civil Aviation Complex.

In its notice of termination, Ciac asked Farm Fresh 25 to pay its arrearages with Ciac and to return the premises leased to it.


source (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/regions/793-clark-international-airport-corp-ends-lease-deal-with-farm-fresh-25)

Talks on for Jakarta, Bangkok flights to Clark


By Tonette Orejas
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:55:00 09/02/2010

Filed Under: Air Transport, Economy and Business and Finance


Close this CLARK FREEPORT—The founders of Air Asia, regarded as Asia’s largest budget airline, visited the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport here on Wednesday to begin talks on starting flights from Jakarta and Bangkok to Clark.

“Our Thailand and Indonesia teams are here to look at whether to make flights from Jakarta and Bangkok into Clark. We are big believers of Clark. Many are still looking at Manila, but we still feel this is the right place to be,” Tony Fernandes, Air Asia chief executive officer, told reporters at DMIA.

Fernandes said the operations of the company here since 2005 have been very successful and it now makes 14 flights a week to and from Kuala Lumpur and Kota Kinabalu.

He favored an open skies policy, at least for Clark.

“Our whole life has been about liberalization and opening up,” he said.

“I think the Philippines should be one of the largest countries for tourism in Southeast Asia. But [it] has been restricted because of the closeness [of access]. So, I think it’s great for your country, for tourism and obviously we at Air Asia would love it because it would not be just about flying to Clark, Cebu, Zamboanga. There are lots of places. We are good at developing new areas,” Fernandes said.

Air Asia, he said, prefers to fly to Clark because DMIA charges reasonable parking rates and other fees.

“There’s also lots of land [here]. We believe there should be a low-cost terminal here someday,” he said.

Fernandes and Kamarudin Meranun began Air Asia nine years ago.

It has been serving 30 million passengers annually from only 200,000 passengers when it started.

Victor Jose Luciano, president and chief executive officer of state-owned Clark International Airport Corp., said the visit of Air Asia’s two top executives was a “sure and strong sign of confidence in Clark.”

“Tony was very happy to see the progress since his first visit five years ago to start the Clark-Kuala Lumpur flights. With Air Asia setting up base in Thailand then Indonesia, the Philippines could be its third overseas base. That will boost the local economy and the position of Clark as the growth airport of the country,” Luciano said.

United Parcel Services (UPS) made its maiden flights to Clark in 2002. It has maintained its inter-Asia hub at the DMIA since then.

Korea’s Asiana Airlines now makes 11 flights a week into Clark.

International and domestic flights to and from the Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Metro Manila are diverted to the DMIA during bad weather and when technical problems crop up at the country’s premier gateway.

Talks on for Jakarta, Bangkok flights to Clark


By Tonette Orejas
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:55:00 09/02/2010

Filed Under: Air Transport, Economy and Business and Finance


Close this CLARK FREEPORT—The founders of Air Asia, regarded as Asia’s largest budget airline, visited the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport here on Wednesday to begin talks on starting flights from Jakarta and Bangkok to Clark.

“Our Thailand and Indonesia teams are here to look at whether to make flights from Jakarta and Bangkok into Clark. We are big believers of Clark. Many are still looking at Manila, but we still feel this is the right place to be,” Tony Fernandes, Air Asia chief executive officer, told reporters at DMIA.

Fernandes said the operations of the company here since 2005 have been very successful and it now makes 14 flights a week to and from Kuala Lumpur and Kota Kinabalu.

He favored an open skies policy, at least for Clark.

“Our whole life has been about liberalization and opening up,” he said.

“I think the Philippines should be one of the largest countries for tourism in Southeast Asia. But [it] has been restricted because of the closeness [of access]. So, I think it’s great for your country, for tourism and obviously we at Air Asia would love it because it would not be just about flying to Clark, Cebu, Zamboanga. There are lots of places. We are good at developing new areas,” Fernandes said.

Air Asia, he said, prefers to fly to Clark because DMIA charges reasonable parking rates and other fees.

“There’s also lots of land [here]. We believe there should be a low-cost terminal here someday,” he said.

Fernandes and Kamarudin Meranun began Air Asia nine years ago.

It has been serving 30 million passengers annually from only 200,000 passengers when it started.

Victor Jose Luciano, president and chief executive officer of state-owned Clark International Airport Corp., said the visit of Air Asia’s two top executives was a “sure and strong sign of confidence in Clark.”

“Tony was very happy to see the progress since his first visit five years ago to start the Clark-Kuala Lumpur flights. With Air Asia setting up base in Thailand then Indonesia, the Philippines could be its third overseas base. That will boost the local economy and the position of Clark as the growth airport of the country,” Luciano said.

United Parcel Services (UPS) made its maiden flights to Clark in 2002. It has maintained its inter-Asia hub at the DMIA since then.

Korea’s Asiana Airlines now makes 11 flights a week into Clark.

International and domestic flights to and from the Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Metro Manila are diverted to the DMIA during bad weather and when technical problems crop up at the country’s premier gateway.

This is good news. No less than Tony Fernandes is optmistic about Clark. He is quite a visionary, imagine buying a bankrupt airline nine years ago for 1 ringgit (MYR) and eventually making it the largest LCC in Asia. Not only that, it was awarded world's best low-cost airline this year. With almost 100 aircraft, I'm sure they can spare a couple or so planes to fly from those potential new destinations to Clark.:cheers:

^are you sure?1 MYR ONLY??? Check again.

^are you sure?1 MYR ONLY??? Check again.

While wikipedia may not be the best and most accurate resource, here's what it says:

Establishment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Asia)

AirAsia was established in 1993 and commenced operations on 18 November 1996. It was originally founded by a government-owned conglomerate DRB-Hicom. On 2 December 2001, the heavily-indebted airline was purchased by former Time Warner executive Tony Fernandes's company Tune Air Sdn Bhd for the token sum of one ringgit. This was after great deliberation as the initial offer was fifty sen. Fernandes proceeded to engineer a remarkable turnaround, turning a profit in 2002 and launching new routes from its hub in Kuala Lumpur International Airport at breakneck speed, undercutting former monopoly operator Malaysia Airlines with promotional fares as low as RM1 (US$0.27).


Launching AirAsia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Fernandes)

It was through Datuk Pahamin A. Rejab, the former secretary-general of the Malaysian Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs Ministry that Fernandes got to meet up with the then Prime Minister, Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad in October 2001.
AirAsia, the heavily-indebted subsidiary of the Malaysian government-owned conglomerate, DRB-Hicom, was losing money speedily. Instead of starting from scratch, Mahathir advised Fernandes to buy an existing airline instead. Fernandes mortgaged his home and sank his savings to acquire the company, comprising two ageing Boeing 737-300 jets (9M-AAA and 9M-AAB) and USD$11 million (RM40 million) worth of debts, for 26 US cents (one ringgit), and transformed it into an industry player.
Coming just after the 11 September 2001, undoubtedly the worst day in the history of commercial aviation when nobody wanted to fly, everyone thought that Fernandes had gone "crazy", predicting that the company would fail miserably. Yet, just one year after his takeover, AirAsia had broken even and cleared all its debts. Its initial public offering (IPO) in November 2004 was oversubscribed by 130 per cent.
Fernandes says his timing was in fact perfect: Since 11 September 2001, aircraft leasing costs were down 40%. Also, airline lay-offs mean experienced staff were readily available. He believed Malaysian travellers would embrace a cut-rate air service that will save them time and money, especially in a tight economy. That was why he copied one of the world's most successful no-frills carriers, Ryanair out of Ireland (which in turn is modelled after Southwest Airlines in the United States). Fernandes thinks that about 50 per cent of the travellers on Asia’s budget airlines are first-time flyers. Before AirAsia, he estimates that only six per cent of Malaysians had ever travelled in a plane.

Here's from tonyfernandesblog (check 4:39 of the video)

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Imagine, if Philippine Airlines made a similar video, they'll probably have fewer problems with their labor forces as well as minimize the negative publicity they've been getting recently.

usually when buying a bankrupt (worthless) company they need to have a token amount for financial purposes. so usually, they use 1 currency unit, like 1 peso or 1 MYR

Here in Malaysia, the government has been helping the development of low cost carrier, notably Air Asia.

This is the new LCCT (low cost carrier terminal) in KLIA. It had its groundbreaking ceremony few days ago.

From the official press release from Malaysian Airports.

http://www.malaysiaairports.com.my/index.php?ch=39&pg=298

- Initial capacity at 30 million passengers per year, can be scaled up to 45 million passengers per year

- 68 gates

- 48,000 square metres of retail/shopping space

- 6,000 car park lots and multimodal transport hub which encompasses taxi, bus and railway line (ERL)

- Air Asia head office, hotel and shopping centre will be built adjacent to the new LCCT.

Here in Malaysia, the government has been helping the development of low cost carrier, notably Air Asia.

This is the new LCCT (low cost carrier terminal) in KLIA. It had its groundbreaking ceremony few days ago.

From the official press release from Malaysian Airports.

http://www.malaysiaairports.com.my/index.php?ch=39&pg=298

- Initial capacity at 30 million passengers per year, can be scaled up to 45 million passengers per year

- 68 gates

- 48,000 square metres of retail/shopping space

- 6,000 car park lots and multimodal transport hub which encompasses taxi, bus and railway line (ERL)

- Air Asia head office, hotel and shopping centre will be built adjacent to the new LCCT.

Thanks for the link. Very much appreciated. I hope you won't mind me using some analogies of malls in the Philippines.

The article says "the new LCCT will be increased 60% in terminal size from 150,000 sq m to 242,000 sq m. By comparison the current LCCT is only at 60,000 sq m, handling 15 million passengers." Wow, that building alone is the size of an SM City Cebu (well, based on floor area)! And to think that's for an LCC, (since the design is primarily for narrow bodied planes), not for big projects the size of KLIA or BCIA.

As for the 48,000 sq. m. of retail shopping space, imagine that an SM Molino was built as part of the LCCT complex. OK, for those who haven't been to SM Molino, imagine a shopping mall 1/4 the size of SM Southmall, or probably the size of the Podium in Ortigas Center. Or maybe a large Puregold store...

So that we don't go too off-topic, the retail shopping space floor area is a little under half that of SM Clark. So imagine putting one side of SM Clark as part of the DMIA complex and that's how grand it would be.

BTW, how many rooms will the hotel have?

^^

As in hotel rooms number, no news about that. This is because the news is more on the LCCT itself. The new LCCT is designed for the use by narrow body aircrafts as well as wide body aircrafts. This is because Air Asia X operates long haul flights.

Here is the photo of the new LCCT on our newspaper...

http://www.thesundaily.com/article.cfm?id=51283

Therefore, i think you guys in your country can look at this, in ways to develop Clark airport for long term use.

^^

As in hotel rooms number, no news about that. This is because the news is more on the LCCT itself. The new LCCT is designed for the use by narrow body aircrafts as well as wide body aircrafts. This is because Air Asia X operates long haul flights.

Here is the photo of the new LCCT on our newspaper...

http://www.thesundaily.com/article.cfm?id=51283

Therefore, i think you guys in your country can look at this, in ways to develop Clark airport for long term use.

Thank you for joining the discussions. I am reposting this from the LCCT thread, perhaps some concepts may be applicable to Clark, especially since most of the carriers serving DMIA nowadays are LCCs, and Angeles City is bound to gain from additional revenues.

KLIA2 will help triple tourism revenue
2010/08/30 By Eileen Ng
http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/KLIA2willhelptripletourismrevenue/Article/

SEPANG: The new permanent low-cost carrier terminal (LCCT) here dubbed “KLIA2” will serve as an economic stimulus to the country.

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak said not only will KLIA2 provide more job opportunities to Malaysians, it will also boost tourism by attracting more airlines and visitors to the country.

“It goes without saying that given the rapid growth of low-cost air travel, the construction of a project such as this new terminal brings the country many benefits.


“This facility will greatly enhance our vision to increase tourism revenue from the current RM53 billion in 2009 to RM168 billion by 2020,” he said in his speech at the ground-breaking ceremony at KLIA2’s construction site yesterday.

Also present were Transport Minister Datuk Seri Kong Cho Ha, his deputies Jelaing Mersat and Datuk Abdul Rahim Bakri and Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) managing director and chief executive officer Tan Sri Bashir Ahmad.

Targeted to be completed by April 2012, the new LCCT, which is located 2km from the main KL International Airport (KLIA) terminal, will cater to 30 million passengers a year, and with expansion, can handle 45 million passengers a year.


Najib said local businesses will benefit from the influx of tourists into the country.

“The spill-over effect from having this captive market at our airports is immense, from a commercial perspective. Following the footsteps of established successful airports such as London’s Heathrow and Amsterdam’s Schiphol where airports are much more than just a place to catch flights, MAHB has envisioned our own airports as the platform to drive commercial business.

“With its vision to be a world-class airport business, I am encouraged to know that besides operating top-notch airport facilities and services, there will also be ample retail and commerce opportunities to allow Malaysian businesses to capitalise and benefit from the influx of tourists and spending power flowing continuously through the arrival and departure gates,” he said.

He is confident that the new terminal is poised to serve as a hub to attract more low-cost carriers to fly to Kuala Lumpur, further strengthening the government’s efforts to make the country the top-of-mind destination for leisure and business travel.

He also assured that the government is committed to developing all 39 airports in Malaysia.

“We will collaborate with MAHB, seek its expert advice on the upgrading requirements of our domestic and international airports and together, we can truly build a thriving airport and aviation industry that will benefit our people and contribute substantially to our economic growth,” he said.

Najib also paid tribute to homegrown LCC AirAsia Bhd for its efforts in stimulating low-cost travel in the country.

He pointed out that over the last 10 years, low-cost travel at KLIA has grown by an average 37 per cent per year, and the double-digit growth is expected to continue for the next five to 10 years despite intense competition from other large airports in the region.

“I have to compliment AirAsia for their innovative efforts to stimulate low-cost travel in the country and I applaud Malaysia Airport’s role in supporting the growth of this burgeoning travel segment.

“MAHB has anticipated that KLIA as whole would handle over 60 million passengers by 2020 and close to 45 per cent of these passengers are likely to be low-cost travellers,” he said.

He was also pleased to hear that MAHB has successfully completed its first tranche issuance of Islamic Medium Term Notes under its Sukuk programme to partly finance the development of KLIA2.

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Whose MD-11 is this? It's nice to see more widebodies at Clark.

Whose MD-11 is this? It's nice to see more widebodies at Clark.

from FEDEX:)

from FEDEX:)

OK, my initial impression was that when they left Subic, they left the Philippines for China. Apparently not...here's an article from last year...

From Subic hub, FedEx flies to Clark (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20090208-188077/From-Subic-hub-FedEx-flies-to-Clark)

Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 03:48:00 02/08/2009

Filed Under: Economy and Business and Finance
CLARK FREEPORT, Philippines—Federal Express (FedEx), the world’s largest express transportation company, has not really left the Philippines.

A day after starting the shutdown of its Asia-Pacific hub at the Subic Bay Freeport, FedEx made its inaugural flight into the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) on Friday night to prepare this former American military aviation complex as base for its Philippine operations, which would be linked to its new hub in China, an official said.

The arrival of FedEx’s MD-11 aircraft, which landed at 10:30 p.m. here, came after the American courier giant and Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) signed in October 2008 a memorandum of agreement allowing the firm to “locate and do operations in Clark,” CIAC president and chief executive officer Victor Jose Luciano told the Inquirer on Saturday.

The debut flight, which was done without fanfare, was part of test operations by FedEx, Luciano said.

He said this phase entailed doing technical stops for refueling and crew layover.

“Eventually, these would graduate into cargo operations,” Luciano said.

Two Inquirer sources, who asked not to be named because they were not authorized to speak on the project, confirmed that FedEx has transferred all its ground equipment from Subic to Clark.

Under the agreement, FedEx will fly twice daily to and from Clark, except on Saturdays, according to one of the sources. The source said the destinations are China and Taiwan.

Luciano said China’s Baiyun International Airport in Guangzhou would be the main hub of FedEx in the Asia-Pacific region.

FedEx has yet to issue an official statement on its Clark project.

The technical stop, said Luciano, is a sign that Clark is ideal and viable for FedEx’s freight-handling business.

DMIA used to be the biggest facility of the United States’ 13th Air Force in the Asia-Pacific. The Philippine government took more than a decade to turn it around, enjoying a boom in cargo operations and passenger flights since under the administration of President Macapagal-Arroyo, Luciano said.

Test flight

The test flight turned out to be a sentimental journey for the pilot, Capt. Phil John, Luciano said.

“When I met him on the plane, he told me: ‘I’m very happy to land here. The last time I was here was 20 years ago when I was with the US Air Force,’” he said.

John and his crew were received by Luciano, FedEx senior manager for operations Virgilio Mangisel and country manager Samuel David.

Another CIAC official, who asked not to be named because he has no authority to speak on the project, said CIAC and DMIA officials handled the transfer low key to avoid upsetting officials of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority.

SBMA Administrator Armand Arreza said he had been told of the Clark plan.

“This is to support their Philippine operations, not as a hub. That’s okay because FedEx remains to be in the Philippines,” Arreza said.

In an interview on Friday, Arreza said the government stands to lose P150 million annually from the pullout of FedEx hub in Subic.

The Subic Bay International Airport, home to FedEx for 14 years, is smaller than DMIA, which spans 2,500 hectares. The DMIA has two runways measuring 3.5 km each. Tonette Orejas, Inquirer Central Luzon

They have 2 flights everyday going to Clark. 6 in the morning and 1030 in the evening.

Also in the news said another US cargo company UPS will leave Clark. But they still also have about 2 flights a day there.

OK, my initial impression was that when they left Subic, they left the Philippines for China. Apparently not...here's an article from last year...



I don't think they really left the Philippines totally. They did move their main asia hub to Shanghai (or I thnk it is Guangzu) but they still have satellite hubs all over asia.. Same thing with UPS. Unlike DHL here in the US, they completely pulled out, not even truck delivery, fedex and UPS pick up all their businesses... They have more and bigger operations in China so whatever comes from NA , EU, asia, middleeast and Oceneana all has to go to China first, using wide bodied aircrafts like 747 and then transport the rest of the packages to all different countries.

Who named this Airport anyways? Clark International Airport was far more better than Dosdabo Macapalga airport whatever

I'm with you on that one. ^^

^^ totally agree. clark international airport sounds "international".

Mahihilig kayo sa mga stateside sounding talaga.... hindi naman niyan maiiba ang image ng filipinas... Ano bang depresiya ng DMIA na pangalan kung hindi filipino name lang International airport pa rin yan ang dating.

can we at least name it after a worthy individual, not just because he's the father of the president of did that (granting that he was a president, a mediocre one, just like his daughter) ;)

Budget carrier Air Asia eyes more flights to DMIA
Written by Jacob Cunanan
Tuesday, 07 September 2010 11:41

CLARK FREE PORT, Pampanga--Budget carrier Air Asia Berhad of Malaysia is eyeing the conduct of more flights between Clark and Jakarta and Bangkok in a bid to expand its operations at the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) here.

Air Asia chief executive officer Tony Fernandes told reporters during a visit to the DMIA recently that Air Asia is studying plans to expand operations at the DMIA in a bid to attract more tourists in the area as part of their program to lure visitors in the Philippines.

“We are studying to have more flights at DMIA, possibly to Jakarta and Bangkok. My Air Asia team from Thailand and Indonesia are here to look into these opportunities that would further boost the tourism industry, especially in Clark,” Fernandes said.

“We feel that Clark is the right place to be to have these flights to further develop the airport,” he added.

Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) president and CEO Victor Jose I. Luciano said Air Asia Berhad has been a supporter of CIAC and a partner for the development of the DMIA since 2005.

Luciano said Air Asia is one of the leading budget carriers in Malaysia and operates daily flights between Clark and Kuala Lumpur and Kota Kinabalu, averaging 14 flights per week.

The CIAC official met with Fernandes at the DMIA last week. Fernandes was in the country to attend a stockholders’ meeting held in Manila.

Fernandes also expressed support for the call for “open skies” for the DMIA to open more opportunities for Filipinos to fly, as well as to attract more tourists to visit Malaysia and the Philippines.

“For me, the Philippines has the largest potential for tourism in Southeast Asia and Air Asia is committed to supporting the programs for tourism,” the Air Asia CEO pointed out.

At the same time, Fernandes was impressed by developments at the DMIA, especially the newly built and expanded DMIA Terminal.

“I am really impressed by what I have seen at DMIA and Mr. Luciano has done a really good job,” he said, adding that Air Asia prefers to fly to the DMIA because it has reasonable parking rates and other fees.

“The DMIA is an ideal place for a low-cost terminal and we at Air Asia would love to fly here,” he added.

Along with Air Asia, airlines operating at the Clark airport are Tiger Airways of Singapore that flies to Singapore; Asiana Airlines that flies to Incheon, South Korea with connecting flights to the US, Japan and China; Cebu Pacific Air that flies to Hong Kong, Singapore, Macau and Bangkok and domestic flights to Cebu; South East Asian Airlines that flies to Caticlan; the Spirit of Manila Airlines that flies to Taiwan; and, Pacific Filer with chartered flights to Palau.


source (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/home/regions/991-budget-carrier-air-asia-eyes-more-flights-to-dmia)

can we at least name it after a worthy individual, not just because he's the father of the president of did that (granting that he was a president, a mediocre one, just like his daughter) ;)

Agree! Maybe name it after Vicente Manansala, a national artist, which also came from Pampanga or can even name it to Ninoy or Magsaysay. Or just stick to Clark International Airport. Basta anything but DMIA, GMAIA and worst would be Lito Lapid International Airport.

Agree! Maybe name it after Vicente Manansala, a national artist, which also came from Pampanga or can even name it to Ninoy or Magsaysay. Or just stick to Clark International Airport. Basta anything but DMIA, GMAIA and worst would be Lito Lapid International Airport.



bakit hindi na lang kay Pres.Manuel Roxas..dahil dyan sya namatay noon magdelivered sya nang speech sa U.S 13th command..Manuel Roxas International Airport..:)

can we at least name it after a worthy individual, not just because he's the father of the president of did that (granting that he was a president, a mediocre one, just like his daughter) ;)

i suggest you research more on Pres. Diosdado Macapagal before you label him as mediocre...

i would rather accept if you label Pres. Corazon Aquino who was born with a silver spoon as an average president instead of Pres. Macapagal who represents the resilience of Filipinos as he rose from being the "poor boy from Lubao" to being the President of the Philippines by pursuing his studies despite of extreme poverty.

fyi, (http://www.philippines-archipelago.com/people/presidents/diosdado_macapagal.html)

""The strength of the nation lies in the well-being of the common man." - Diosdado Macapagal

Diosdado Macapagal was born in Barrio San Nicolas, Lubao, Pampanga to Urbano Macapagal and Romana Pangan. Despite extreme poverty, Macapagal pursued his studies. He was known as the poor boy from Lubao. Macapagal took up law at the Philippine Law school but transferred to the University of Santo Tomas two years later. After obtaining his degree, Macapagal was admitted to the bar in 1936. He entered into private law practice and taught law on the side in Manila. In 1940, Macapagal became Manuel Quezon's legal assistant.

During the Japanese occupation in the war, Macapagal continued to practice law but he also aided the anti-Japanese resistance movements and also served as intelligence liaison with guerrillas units. Macapagal barely survived the liberation of the Philippines and Purita de la Rosa, his first wife, died of malnutrition. He eventually married again to Evangelina Macaraeg. In 1948, President Quirino appointed Macapagal second secretary to the Philippine Embassy in Washington. A year later, Quirino asked him to run against a Huk candidate as a Pampanga representative. Macapagal won and was elected to the Philippine House of Representatives. He was re-elected in 1953. Macapagal also served as the Philippine representative to the United Nations General Assembly three times.

Macapagal was a member of the Liberal Party and was elected vice-president in 1957 under President Garcia who was a member of the Nacionalista Party. In the 1961 presidential elections, Macapagal defeated the other four candidates with 55% of the votes. During his term, Macapagal fought to suppress graft and corruption within the government and also tax evasion. He also aimed to stimulate the economy and placed the peso in the free currency-exchange market, encouraging the wealthiest families to invest.

Macapagal also passed the Land Reform Bill which freed many farmers from slavery as tenant farmers. Another of his achievements was the forming of Maphilindo (Malaysia, the Philippines and Indonesia) through a foreign policy. This paved the way for the creation of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN). Although Macapagal's efforts were aimed to help the common people, a number his reforms were blocked by the Nacionalista dominated Senate and House of Representatives. It was Macapagal who changed the Independence Day to June 12 from July 4. The first celebrations commemorating independence from Spain were held in 1962.

Originally, Macapagal had an agreement with Ferdinand Marcos also of the Liberal Party. Macapagal would not run again for the presidency but instead back Marcos as the Liberal candidate. Despite this agreement, Macapagal ran in the 1965 presidential elections but was defeated by Marcos. At the end of Macapagal's presidency, agricultural gross domestic product (GDP) was at its highest, inflation was at its lowest and trade deficit was negligible. Foreign debts were less than US$600 million and Philippine economic development was right behind that of Japan in Asia.

In 1971, upon former President Carlos Garcia's death, Macapagal was chosen as president of the 1971 Constitutional Convention. He became an outspoken critic of the Marcos administration. In 1972, Macapagal was one of the first to strongly oppose imposition of martial law. In the early years of martial law, he published the first anti-Marcos dictatorship book Democracy in the Philippines for which he was later prosecuted for sedition. In 1979, Macapagal organised the National Union for Liberation as an opposition party to Marcos.

Diosdado Macapagal died on April 21, 1997, due to heart failure, pneumonia and renal complications at the Makati Medical Center.

(PS: Hindi si Manny Villar ang tunay na mahirap kundi ang dating Pangulong Macapagal. Siya ang tunay na umasenso gamit ang Sipag at Tiyaga sa buhay at pag-aaral. Isama na rin natin ang Galing at Talino... so before degrading his name or thinking that he does not deserve to represent Pampanga by naming their premier gateway after him then think again or better yet, introspect and ask yourselves of what have you contributed to our country other than paying taxes, being too colonial-minded, sarcastic, cynical and derogatory.)

:lol:eh yan si kintoy anti gma talaga yan..dahil si kintoy pro erap yan :lol:hahahahaa

bakit hindi na lang kay Pres.Manuel Roxas..dahil dyan sya namatay noon magdelivered sya nang speech sa U.S 13th command..Manuel Roxas International Airport..:)

Puede. Pero wala naman masamang ginawa si Disdado Macapagal hindi ba? Bakit ang pangalan niya babahidan dahilan lang sa anak niya? Kung Kintoy International Airport na lang kaya? Cool pa? Wag lang ma miss pronounce ng mga foreigners, baka maging Kintot ang dating LMAO. PEACE BRO!! Just having a good time...he he

^^Nandyan na yan. At least pinangalan kay Diosdado Macapagal ang airport at sa Pampanga. Kung sa ibang lugar iyan, issue na yun...:)

Mangio vs Luciano vs Pelayo at Clark (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=610096&publicationSubCategoryId=64)

Clark Field is so strategic that Pampanga officials are fighting tooth and nail over it. Tactically they are gunning for control of the government’s Clark Development Corp. (CDC) and Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC).

A bloc in the CIAC board is decrying the prolonged stay of political minions of former President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo. Allegedly chairman Nestor Mangio and two other midnight appointees are still lording it over, two months after President Noynoy Aquino’s administration took over.

Mangio reportedly still presided over the CIAC board meeting last August 31, defying Aquino’s order to midnight appointees to depart. With Mangio are fellow midnight appointees, directors Alexander Cauguiran, supposedly a campaigner for Arroyo’s presidential endorsee Gilbert Teodoro, and Romeo Dyoco, a school chum of Arroyo’s spouse Mike.

Mangio is concurrent chairman of the Subic-Clark Alliance for Development Council, and so holds sway over the CDC. Cauguiran is also CIAC executive VP, and Dyoco operations VP. The CDC oversees the 4,400-hectare developed portion of Clark, of which 2,400 hectares is the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport under the CIAC.

Over 350 CIAC workers earlier asked Aquino to replace Mangio, Cauguiran and Dyoco for midnight dealing. The three allegedly had tried to railroad the award of the expansion and operation of Clark airport, first to a Kuwaiti and then to a Malaysian firm.

In mid-March Mangio, Dyoco, CIAC president Victor Jose Luciano and newly appointed director Rafael Angeles flew to Kuwait to meet with the Al-Kharafy Group. At that time Dyoco was opposing the Kuwaitis, along with Luciano and Angeles. Dyoco had led the study group that rejected Al-Kharafy’s unsolicited proposal for being unconstitutional and disadvantageous to the government.

As a result of Dyoco’s report, Arroyo had ordered the CIAC to cease all negotiations with the Kuwaitis. Soon afterwards Cauguiran and Dyoco were reported to be lobbying for a Malaysian firm to upgrade and manage the airport’s three terminals. Majority of the board, meantime, favored a consortium of local and Korean businessmen. Luciano was directed to negotiate with them the terms of the deal. The Malaysians and Koreans were said to be racing for the status of “original proponent,” which would relegate competitors to Swiss challengers.

Weeks after Aquino became President, Luciano was reported to be favored for promotion to CDC chief executive. The Commission on Audit recently reported that Benigno Ricafort as CDC president had earned P14.5 million in 2009, the second highest-paid government exec, next only to the Subic Freeport administrator. Ricafort disputed the COA as inaccurate.

Complicating the Clark situation is the fight between Candaba town mayor Jerry Pelayo and Luciano. The tiff has split the CDC and CIAC, and led to charges of malversation before the Ombudsman.

Pelayo had long been requesting Luciano for permission to lease two buildings in the Clark aviation complex for agricultural trade. Luciano allegedly delayed decision on it, only to demolish the two structures, along with 13 others, ostensibly to donate scrap materials to three Aeta tribes.

An official CIAC report noted that contractors had offered P33.5 million for the scrap materials. But Luciano on record has turned over to the Aetas only P344,750 in cash, plus 300 sacks of rice worth P450,000.

Mangio himself, with directors Angeles and Jesus Nicdao, had investigated the stink. He also referred the case to the Ombudsman, noting in the final report that Luciano had failed to account for P32,723,259.

Sued along with Luciano were CIAC managers Silverio Clemente and Ruel Angeles, and CDC officers Arnel Pineda and Tarcicius Tiotuyco. Blood relations, similar surnames, and past feuds didn’t matter anymore among the protagonists.

Pelayo is twitting Luciano in the media for reneging on commitments to help his demonstration farm inside the Clark airport zone. The municipality of Candaba began developing in 2008 10 hectares borrowed from the Technology and Livelihood Resource Centers, which in turn had leased it from private High Hedge Enterprises in 2001.

Aided by the Candaba municipality, the private Farm Fresh 25 Corp. transformed part of the land into a trading post for agricultural produce. A son of Pelayo heads Farm Fresh, so Luciano’s supporters are pointing to possible breach of anti-graft laws in the mayor favoring a kin’s business.

Pelayo maintains, though, that Luciano at first had supported the demo farm and trading hub. The latter supposedly had visited the zone with CDC, CIAC, Pampanga, regional and national officials. On Luciano’s promise to support the projects, Pelayo says, the Candaba municipal hall and Farm Fresh began clearing their respective lots and refurbishing two assigned buildings. Supposedly the two entities spent millions of pesos for the works; Farm Fresh also paid CIAC P1.3 million in advanced rentals and security deposit.

Things soured when Pelayo asked for two more buildings, but got nothing. He accused Luciano of using the Aetas as front for fraud. In turn Luciano and CIAC and CDC execs issued notices of construction violations by Farm Fresh. Agreements with the Candaba municipality and the private firm were scrapped when Luciano stated that the 10 hectares were within the no-building zone because very close to a runway. The same reason was used for the demolitions.

:lol:eh yan si kintoy anti gma talaga yan..dahil si kintoy pro erap yan :lol:hahahahaa

actually naging anti-GMA ako after 2004, when she cheated. Hello Garci. then came the ZTE-NBN, which I totally lost my respect for her.


I was in EDSA in 2001, and I was there to protest against Erap.

Puede. Pero wala naman masamang ginawa si Disdado Macapagal hindi ba? Bakit ang pangalan niya babahidan dahilan lang sa anak niya? Kung Kintoy International Airport na lang kaya? Cool pa? Wag lang ma miss pronounce ng mga foreigners, baka maging Kintot ang dating LMAO. PEACE BRO!! Just having a good time...he he

haha. kung si tisoykuba ang masusunod, magiging Anaheim Airport na yan :lol:

actually naging anti-GMA ako after 2004, when she cheated. Hello Garci. then came the ZTE-NBN, which I totally lost my respect for her.


I was in EDSA in 2001, and I was there to protest against Erap.

OT: I was there too. Nakalibre adobo at rice pa, courtesy of the Ayalas :lol:

the Yuchencos were in the general area where I was ...

Who named this Airport anyways? Clark International Airport was far more better than Dosdabo Macapalga airport whatever

Blame the previous President if you must. ;)

can we at least name it after a worthy individual, not just because he's the father of the president of did that (granting that he was a president, a mediocre one, just like his daughter) ;)

Diosdado Macapagal is not worthy enough for you or is it because you dislike the daughter?

^^ totally agree. clark international airport sounds "international".

It sounds "Stateside" and colonial, as if we are still under the American rule.

Of course Diosdasdo Macapagal sounds bad and evoke the corruptions and human rights abuses during her daughter GMA reign.

Maharlika International Airport will be much better name.

bakit maharlika?bakit nasa nueva ecija ba yan clark na yan..Clark International Airport..baka kung maharlika pa yan eh maligaw pa mga tourista dyan..baka makarating pa sila sa Gapan City.heheheh

pahabol!! akala nila tuloy Maharlika Highway pa yan...

can we at least name it after a worthy individual, not just because he's the father of the president of did that (granting that he was a president, a mediocre one, just like his daughter) ;)

i suggest you research more on Pres. Diosdado Macapagal before you label him as mediocre...

i would rather accept if you label Pres. Corazon Aquino who was born with a silver spoon as an average president instead of Pres. Macapagal who represents the resilience of Filipinos as he rose from being the "poor boy from Lubao" to being the President of the Philippines by pursuing his studies despite of extreme poverty.

fyi, (http://www.philippines-archipelago.com/people/presidents/diosdado_macapagal.html)

""The strength of the nation lies in the well-being of the common man." - Diosdado Macapagal

...

Originally, Macapagal had an agreement with Ferdinand Marcos also of the Liberal Party. Macapagal would not run again for the presidency but instead back Marcos as the Liberal candidate. Despite this agreement, Macapagal ran in the 1965 presidential elections but was defeated by Marcos. At the end of Macapagal's presidency, agricultural gross domestic product (GDP) was at its highest, inflation was at its lowest and trade deficit was negligible. Foreign debts were less than US$600 million and Philippine economic development was right behind that of Japan in Asia.


OT: Like father, like daughter. See the parallelisms when it comes to not keeping their word?

BTT, renaming Clark into DMIA after former President Macapagal is the initiative of the legislature, whether or not they were prodded by the president. So I think the name DMIA will stick for some time unless the current administration and congress will pass a bill to rename the airport to something else, like CCAA (Corazon Cojuangco Aquino Airport).

bakit naman magiging cory airport naman yan CLARK eh wala naman nagawa yan sa bayan, sa totoo lang kundi dahil kay cardinal sin , ramos at enrile.hindi naman makakaupo yan...ibalik na lang sa Clark International Airport mas mabuti pa....

Diosdado Macapagal is not worthy enough for you or is it because you dislike the daughter?

uhm, BOTH! :banana:

sana yung NInoy Aquino International Airport ibalik na lang sa pangalang Manila International Airport. tapos ang DMIA ay Clark international airport or clark fields international airport.

Y'all are all too caught up in names. It's there and it's serving a purpose. Move on. :ohno:

Malaysian airline eyes more flights to Jakarta, Bangkok from Clark airport

Friday, 10 September 2010 00:00

CLARK FREEPORT, Pampanga: Malaysian airline, AirAsia is eyeing more flights from Clark to Jakarta and Bangkok, in a bid to expand its operations at the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA).
Tony Fernandes, chief executive officer (CEO) of AirAsia Berhad said that his teams from Jakarta and Bangkok recently arrived at DMIA studying plans to further expand their operations at DMIA—attracting more tourists in the Philippines.

Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) President and CEO Victor Jose Luciano also said that AirAsia has been a supporter and CIAC’s partner for the development of DMIA since 2005.

According to Luciano, AirAsia is one of the leading budget air carriers in Malaysia, which has daily flights via Clark-Kuala Lumpur and Kotakinabalu averaging 14 flights a week.

Luciano met with Fernandes at DMIA last week where he attended a stockholders meeting in Manila.

Fernandes also said that he is supporting the “Open Skies” policy for DMIA, to open up more opportunities for Filipinos to fly in Clark as well as to attract more tourists to visit Malaysia and the Philippines.

“For me, the Philippines has the largest potential for tourism in the Southeast Asia and AirAsia is committed to support the programs for tourism,” Fernandes said.

Fernandes at the same time was impressed by the developments at DMIA especially the newly built DMIA Expanded Terminal.
“I am really impressed by what I have seen at DMIA and Mr. Luciano have really done a good job,” he added.

He said AirAsia prefers to fly at DMIA because it has reasonable parking rates and other fees.

“DMIA is an ideal place for a low cost terminal and we at AirAsia would love to fly here,” he added.

Other carriers flying out of Clark are Tiger Airways of Singapore via Clark-Singapore, Asiana Airlines via Clark-Incheon in South Korea with connecting flights to the United States, Japan and China, Cebu Pacific Air via Clark-Hong Kong, Singapore, Macau and Bangkok. Cebu Pacific also flies domestic via Clark-Cebu.

Similarly, these airlines are using DMIA: South East Asian Airlines via Clark-Caticlan, Spirit of Manila Airlines via Clark-Taiwan and Pacific Filer with chartered flights via Clark-Palau.


source (http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/news/regions/25554-malaysian-airline-eyes-more-flights-to-jakarta-bangkok-from-clark-airport)

Cabinet execs review airport’s facelift

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideMetro.htm?f=2010/september/9/metro1.isx&d=2010/september/9

Cabinet officials led by Transportation Secretary Jose de Jesus on Wednesday trooped to Ninoy Aquino International Airport terminal 1 to review a proposed facelift in time for the last quarter’s peak travel season.

General Manager Jose Honrado of the Manila International Airport Authority discussed plans to spruce up facilities before the group that included Finance Secretary Cesar Purisima, Tourism Sec. Alberto Lim, Public Works secretary Rogelio Singson, Trade and Industry Sec. Gregory Domingo and about 20 other executives from the travel sector.

“One of things we discussed was how to improve the experience of incoming and outgoing passengers,” De Jesus said before the party made brief inspection of the place.

Honrado told the officials that the makeover would stretch from the first week of October to Nov. 15 with the travel rush starting to pick up.

“We have solicited the private sector’s suggestions and recommendations,” he said, noting the need to replace worn out flooring, repainting walls and along with landscaping.

Lim said travel executives wanted improving the bathrooms and airport signs for good measure.

But he admits the present NAIA runways and other facilities which are nearing full capacity will have to give way to Diosdado Macapagal International Airport.

“We have to move to Clark, this is a six-year project,” Lim said. “We could have more than one terminal, we could have a budget terminal, a regular and then domestic terminal.”

He said the move would come with the price because of the required infrastructure.

Lim said travel time across the 85-kilometer distance from Manila to Clark would have to be shortened, entailing investments in road and high-speed rail systems. Eric Apolonio

Cabinet execs review airport’s facelift

http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideMetro.htm?f=2010/september/9/metro1.isx&d=2010/september/9

...

But he admits the present NAIA runways and other facilities which are nearing full capacity will have to give way to Diosdado Macapagal International Airport.

“We have to move to Clark, this is a six-year project,” Lim said. “We could have more than one terminal, we could have a budget terminal, a regular and then domestic terminal.”

He said the move would come with the price because of the required infrastructure.

Lim said travel time across the 85-kilometer distance from Manila to Clark would have to be shortened, entailing investments in road and high-speed rail systems. Eric Apolonio

tama lang ang six years...:okay: :banana:

This cabinet exec. Lim is on the wrong track. "We could have more than one terminal, we could have a budget terminal, a regular and then domestic terminal."

If Clark is to be the new gateway and premier airport for the Philippines, they need ONE TERMINAL. One terminal can handle everything. Make it big enough. Why repeat the mistakes of NAIA by building multiple terminals that probably will not be connected and make it inconvenient for passengers. This airport terminal should compete with the other terminals in the region. Show off the Philippine architecture. Show the world what can be done.

^^ Someone tell him that!!!

^^ Someone tell him that!!!

he's just a Tourism secretary...:D sabi ko nga sa kabila, sinasabi nya lang siguro na kaya ng Clark na mag accomodate ng ganyang plan kasi malaki nga ang space...

one terminal lang naman talaga ang plano, by phases ang construction pero isa lang talaga...

One Terminal with wings, done in stages would be sufficient for Clark.

This cabinet exec. Lim is on the wrong track. "We could have more than one terminal, we could have a budget terminal, a regular and then domestic terminal."

If Clark is to be the new gateway and premier airport for the Philippines, they need ONE TERMINAL. One terminal can handle everything. Make it big enough. Why repeat the mistakes of NAIA by building multiple terminals that probably will not be connected and make it inconvenient for passengers. This airport terminal should compete with the other terminals in the region. Show off the Philippine architecture. Show the world what can be done.

so it means that Clark will not be the premier airport if they are going to have a tingi construction

Does any one know when the new extension with the 2 aero bridges will be operational.

I departed DMIA on the 1 September and returned on the 7 September and noted that this new extension is not in use.

Quote:
"The President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo on Saturday (June 26) led the inauguration of the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) Terminal-1 Expansion."

The pictures posted of the above inaugeration gave the impression that construction and fit out had being completed. Refer post 125 for pictures:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1153729&page=7

Quote:
P308-million DMIA terminal now fully-operational
By FRANCO G. REGALA
June 29, 2010, 5:59pm

CLARK FREEPORT, Pampanga — Finally, after a long wait for the completion of the P308-million Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA), its Terminal 1 Expansion Building is now fully-operational for both domestic and international flights.

No less than President Arroyo inaugurated the newly-constructed DMIA Terminal 1 Expansion Building, which is expected to accommodate an additional 500,000 travelers a year; and become a major gateway for tourism and trade in the country.

Arroyo, who was welcomed by officials led by Clark International Airport Corporation (CIAC) Chairman Nestor Mangio, also led the groundbreaking of California based-VIP Jet Asia at the Aviation Complex, here.

Other officials who attended one of the President’s final official functions were Pampanga 1st District Representative Carmelo Lazatin; incoming Angeles City Mayor Eduardo Pamintuan, re-elect-Mabalacat Mayor Marino Morales; Land Transportation Office Region 3 Director Oliver Macaspac, and other officials.

Mangio said the DMIA Terminal 1 Expansion will be operated and managed by the CIAC and is expected to increase passenger transit from two million to seven million a year.

“This will be one of the most important legacies of our President (Arroyo). It took a lot of political will to have this expansion of the DMIA in order to boost its operations into a premier gateway to the country and a world-class airport that all Filipinos can be proud of,” said Mangio.
http://www.mb.com.ph/node/264396/

Hong Kong tourists keep Clark busy despite Aug. 23 bloodbath

By Jun Malig
Central Luzon Desk
First Posted 21:30:00 09/14/2010

Filed Under: Tourism, hostage taking, Grandstand Hostage


CLARK FREEPORT—Despite the uproar on the recent hostage-taking bloodbath in Manila, Chinese tourists from Hong Kong continue to arrive here weekly through the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport, said Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) president Victor Jose Luciano on Monday.

“The entry of Hong Kong travelers into Clark is not affected by the [Aug. 23] hostage-taking incident. In fact, our arrival from Hong Kong is still up by 10 percent compared to last year. What is affected is the outbound travel to Hong Kong. Many Filipinos avoid going to Hong Kong,” he said.

On Aug. 23, dismissed policeman Rolando Mendoza seized a bus carrying 21 Hong Kong tourists and four Filipinos in Manila. Mendoza took the tourists hostage as he demanded his reinstatement. The more than 10-hour hostage drama ended with eight tourists and Mendoza dead in a bungled rescue operation staged by the police.

Favorite destination

Luciano said many Filipinos, whose favorite short-time destination abroad is Hong Kong, are afraid to go to the Chinese territory because of the perceived threat to their lives and safety in the aftermath of the hostage-taking crisis.

“They hear reports about hatred of Hong Kong Chinese toward Filipinos because of the hostage-taking in Manila last month. That’s why many Filipinos don’t want to fly to Hong Kong,” he said.

Luciano said some 180 Hong Kong tourists arrive at the DMIA here six times a week.

Chinese arrivals

Ronaldo Tiotuico, Central Luzon director of the Department of Tourism, said from Aug. 24 to Aug. 27, 2,238 Chinese tourists from Hong Kong arrived at the airport here.

The figure, he said, was much higher than the 1,067 arrivals during the same period last year.

Tiotuico said the arrival of tourists from other Asian countries and territories like South Korea, Singapore, Macau, Taipei, Bangkok and Malaysia remains high.

“[The DMIA] chalks up an average of 25,000 air passengers a month,” he said.

Tourists from Hong Kong, Macau, South Korea and Taipei are usually seen in hotels, villas, leisure estates and casinos here. They also frequent nearby Angeles City, including the red light district of Fields Avenue in Balibago and Malabanias villages.

Hong Kong casino

One of the largest leisure estates here is 302-hectare Fontana Leisure Parks and Casino, which is being operated by the Hong Kong-based Jimei Group of Companies. Its 2,000-square meter casino has at least 100 slot machines and about 50 gaming tables. It also has a nine-hole golf course, villas and hotel rooms.

Tiotuico said DOT and Clark airport officials are regularly communicating with owners of hotels and restaurants and travel agencies in Angeles City and nearby areas to ensure the safety of foreign tourists arriving at the DMIA.

He said the Angeles government and police have also assured the safety of tourists in the city.


http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/regions/view/20100914-292269/Hong-Kong-tourists-keep-Clark-busy-despite-Aug-23-bloodbath

Wala po ba latest pics dyan sa Clark Airport? :)

^^ Someone tell him that!!!


Unfortunately none of these government officials seem to have a public email address so that others can comment on their statements or policies. Too bad.

They probably have but I can understand why they rather not make it public just like the US officials. I'm pretty sure if its open to public, it would probably not gonna be red because of the number of it and that you can expect some bozo's to send unnecessary junk and hateful Emails that just going to waste their time. Plus, there are hackers who can trace IPs through these so, that is safety issue as well.

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yan ang itsura ang premier-airport pretender?

Sobra ka naman, maganda naman tignan.... galit na galit ka talaga sa DMIA, hayaan mong makapag expand ang DMIA okay naman yan. Kahit ako, gusto ko pa rin na naandiyan ang NAIA pero kung may choices ang mga tao at bakit hindi? One way or another, in the future, they would consider moving most NAIA operations in DMIA if NAIA can't really handle the increase anymore.

Sobra ka naman, maganda naman tignan.... galit na galit ka talaga sa DMIA, hayaan mong makapag expand ang DMIA okay naman yan. Kahit ako, gusto ko pa rin na naandiyan ang NAIA pero kung may choices ang mga tao at bakit hindi? One way or another, in the future, they would consider moving most NAIA operations in DMIA if NAIA can't really handle the increase anymore.

agree......that is one coming from a learned person....nde lang basta tira ng tira....

Sobra ka naman, maganda naman tignan.... galit na galit ka talaga sa DMIA, hayaan mong makapag expand ang DMIA okay naman yan. Kahit ako, gusto ko pa rin na naandiyan ang NAIA pero kung may choices ang mga tao at bakit hindi? One way or another, in the future, they would consider moving most NAIA operations in DMIA if NAIA can't really handle the increase anymore.

super agreed. :lol:

dapat yung designation ng Clark ay Low Cost Carrier Premier Terminal. ok lang pala na ipangalan kay diosdado yan, kasing mediocre dun sa pinangalan :D

ang lumalabas kasi sa bunganga nyan puro kabalbalan.. kaya di na dapat binabasa...:lol::nuts:

dapat yung designation ng Clark ay Low Cost Carrier Premier Terminal. ok lang pala na ipangalan kay diosdado yan, kasing mediocre dun sa pinangalan :D

enough with the name ffs

ang lumalabas kasi sa bunganga nyan puro kabalbalan.. kaya di na dapat binabasa...:lol::nuts:

bat ka nag-comment? :ohno:

Guys, can you cut the crap out? We're trying to have a sensible discussion here, especially on DMIA. I know some of you are acting like teenagers (in many cases certain people here are just out of their teens), but remember this is a respectable forum so I expect everybody to give respectable opinions.

@Kintoy - I don't really care if you make all these comments, we respect your entitlement to expressing your opinion, just don't take potshots at others which are way off-topic to the conversation at hand. Nothing personal against you, but after some time, your one line side comments are already sounding like a broken record. If you just look at your last 25 posts since yesterday, all except 5 are of the very kind I was mentioning (one liners with highly strung opinions).

I would appreciate it more if you post references to your travel blog, there are many interesting pictures you took so maybe it would be a better use of everybody's time if you talked about those instead of ranting all over the place.

Having said that, let's get back to topic here...

Obviously this is just the shell of the terminal extension. Any idea when it will become fully operational?
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you took the time to count my posts? (there's another one-liner for you :) )

dapat yung designation ng Clark ay Low Cost Carrier Premier Terminal. ok lang pala na ipangalan kay diosdado yan, kasing mediocre dun sa pinangalan :D

I'd like to take that as a joke. Macapagal's era was underrated, overshadowed by the dictator. Actually, the best times of the country post war ended when Macapagal was defeated by Marcos. The peso was one of the most desirable currencies in Asia (after the yen), currency was floated to seek its own level (4=1) not artificially fixed, debt was manageable (much less than the 60% of GDP Marcos incurred) land reform was instituted, the north/south luzon expressways were opened at this time, also maintained a certain independence from US, considered a reformist. Times were more positive and safer. However, he was a poor boy from nowhere so people dismissed him esp the class conscious Filipino society.

I'd like to take that as a joke. Macapagal's era was underrated, overshadowed by the dictator. Actually, the best times of the country post war ended when Macapagal was defeated by Marcos. The peso was one of the most desirable currencies in Asia (after the yen), currency was floated to seek its own level (4=1) not artificially fixed, debt was manageable (much less than the 60% of GDP Marcos incurred) land reform was instituted, the north/south luzon expressways were opened at this time, also maintained a certain independence from US, considered a reformist. Times were more positive and safer. However, he was a poor boy from nowhere so people dismissed him esp the class conscious Filipino society.

agree....@kintoy kung mediocre yun....nde naging presidente yun ng pinas....baka bumalik sayo yan...:lol:

like i said before, the government should develop Cebu more than Clark. I'm glad pnoy is prioritizing MCIA over this supposedly premier LCCT, este gateway....

Kailan magagamit ang bagong terminal?

Tama na yang bangayan, ang importante eh mayron tayong infra project.

like i said before, the government should develop Cebu more than Clark. I'm glad pnoy is prioritizing MCIA over this supposedly premier LCCT, este gateway....

Ah now you're making a little more sense...:) two lines instead of one:lol:

It's not really a matter of priorities, development has to happen simultaneously in all regions of the Philippines. The fact remains that there will be eventually (rather, there are) 2 major international airports in Luzon, NAIA and DMIA. Right now, there are still more carriers from abroad servicing CRK (and the rest of Luzon, including LAO) than CEB, but that will eventually change in the future.

With CEB, this is a logical hub for the Visayas and Mindanao, especially domestic flights with turboprops. You will soon be seeing CEB-CRM flights on 2P, plus many more missionary routes and destinations to/from CEB served by 2P Q300/Q400s, 5J ATR72s, plus even ZestAir and SEAir in the future.

In the future I hope to see more international flights being served from DVO (e.g. DVOMDC, DVOROR, etc.) as well as more flights to domestic destinations (e.g. ZAMDVO, DVOILO, etc.). ZAM and MDC are sister cities to DVO, so I'd expect more interaction and trade between them.

Back to CRK, has Pacific Flier already started their flights from ROR (supposedly yesterday)? Anyone have pics of their A310 at DMIA?

http://i355.photobucket.com/albums/r456/slc_948/35393_1461818902076_1131568345_1328724_624717_n.jpg
The Spirit of Manila's MD-83 with Pacific Flier A310-300 in the background. Photo was taken several weeks before Pacific Flier announced that it will suspend its operations from CRK. The airline started services again on the 21st of September, 2010, probably using the same equipment.

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*from PI's fb account.

I'd like to take that as a joke.

If i was joking I would have said "a priest, a rabbi, and Diosadado Macapagal went inside a bar..."

THE Council for the Development of Cambodia has approved plans to build a new US$1 billion international airport in Siem Reap.

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and we're spending how much for Clark? $150 million? for a premier airport? :ohno:

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You can see more photos of DMIA at the below blog :

http://jibraelangel2blog.blogspot.com/2010/09/photo-journal-of-diosdado-macapagal.html

Parang Puregold ang itsura, tapos sa loob parang community health center, kulang na Lang dengue patients...

^^

:lol::lol::lol:

Parang Puregold ang itsura, tapos sa loob parang community health center, kulang na Lang dengue patients...

parang yun bahay ninyu:lol:

Ah now you're making a little more sense...:) two lines instead of one:lol:

It's not really a matter of priorities, development has to happen simultaneously in all regions of the Philippines. The fact remains that there will be eventually (rather, there are) 2 major international airports in Luzon, NAIA and DMIA. Right now, there are still more carriers from abroad servicing CRK (and the rest of Luzon, including LAO) than CEB, but that will eventually change in the future.

With CEB, this is a logical hub for the Visayas and Mindanao, especially domestic flights with turboprops. You will soon be seeing CEB-CRM flights on 2P, plus many more missionary routes and destinations to/from CEB served by 2P Q300/Q400s, 5J ATR72s, plus even ZestAir and SEAir in the future.

In the future I hope to see more international flights being served from DVO (e.g. DVOMDC, DVOROR, etc.) as well as more flights to domestic destinations (e.g. ZAMDVO, DVOILO, etc.). ZAM and MDC are sister cities to DVO, so I'd expect more interaction and trade between them.

Back to CRK, has Pacific Flier already started their flights from ROR (supposedly yesterday)? Anyone have pics of their A310 at DMIA?

Clark maybe has more international carriers but the usage factor of the airport is very low. As shown in the previous picture they're not even utilizing the new airbridges. This is because most of the carriers operating there are using B737'S while MCIA premium airlines are using A330 like CX KL etc. Clark
can never attain its goal of attracting more international routes if the current domestic route is stagnant.DMIA must develop its domestc route or hanggang alternate lang ng NAIA.

Clark maybe has more international carriers but the usage factor of the airport is very low. As shown in the previous picture they're not even utilizing the new airbridges. This is because most of the carriers operating there are using B737'S while MCIA premium airlines are using A330 like CX KL etc. Clark
can never attain its goal of attracting more international routes if the current domestic route is stagnant.DMIA must develop its domestc route or hanggang alternate lang ng NAIA.

I don't think DMIA will develop a significant domestic market, whether inbound or outbound. What do they have that will attract domestic tourists that the tourists don't have in their provinces? If I were from the province (especially the Visayas and Mindanao), I would choose to go first to Manila instead of Clark. Almost anything that can be bought or done in Clark can be found in most major cities in the country (even casinos).

Which is why I am in favor of an arrangement in say, 6-10 years time of making NAIA like Haneda and DMIA like Narita. By then hopefully there will be a high speed rail link between both airports. Although HND is already opening its international wing, it remains that NRT is the de facto international gateway in the Greater Tokyo area (Chiba, Kanagawa, Saitama, and Tokyo prefectures).

If ur from Cebu and need to go to Manila, why fly to Clark? The Cebu-MLA flight would take less time than even commuting from Clark to Manila. What's the value of domestic passengers to fly to Clark? Even if you discount the tickets, the cost of traveling would still be cheaper if u fly directly to Manila

If i was joking I would have said "a priest, a rabbi, and Diosadado Macapagal went inside a bar..."

Then I see you really are joking. You have google don't you? Here is an opinion piece in Manila Times on Diosdado Macapagal:

http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/component/content/article/86-special-reports/27040-poor-boy-from-lubaogreatest-meritocracy-story-

I don't agree with renaming places in the country with all sorts of people but Macapagal is just a deserving if one were to judge him according to his record. He was ahead of his time. There are a few more pieces in Manila Times if you wish to check.

if ur from cebu and you need to go Cebu,why fly to Clark.the jeepney in cebu is take only a 30second..

Will this happen in Noynoy's term... i don't think so...

First Pac seeks complete Clark airport dev’t plan
http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20100927-294511/First-Pac-seeks-complete-Clark-airport-devt-plan

MVP says blueprint needed to lure investors
By Paolo Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 02:01:00 09/27/2010

Filed Under: Infrastructure, Heavy construction

MANILA, Philippines—The local infrastructure unit of Hong Kong-based First Pacific Co. Ltd. wants the government to come up with a more comprehensive development plan for the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in the Clark Freeport, Pampanga.

Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC) chair Manuel V. Pangilinan said this would be key if the government was serious in wanting to attract the private sector to help expand and modernize the DMIA, which is being primed to replace Manila’s congested airports.

Pangilinan said a more complete development plan for the DMIA should be included in the government’s list of private-public partnership (PPP) infrastructure projects.

At the moment, only the construction of a city terminal at DMIA is included in the government’s list of PPPs.

“We’re looking at the total airport project,” Pangilinan said.

He said the most vital part of the DMIA, other than the construction of a bigger airport terminal itself, was the construction of a high-speed railway system that would link the Clark facility to Metro Manila, where most of air passengers will come from and go to.

Pangilinan said the government has yet to come up with a more detailed plan of what it wanted done at DMIA.

“There are a lot of things that we don’t know yet—the design requirements, how many runways need to be built, what the condition of the existing terminals is,” he said.

If ur from Cebu and need to go to Manila, why fly to Clark? The Cebu-MLA flight would take less time than even commuting from Clark to Manila. What's the value of domestic passengers to fly to Clark? Even if you discount the tickets, the cost of traveling would still be cheaper if u fly directly to Manila

and why would you do that .....that is a stupid thing to do.....you don't go to clark because you want to go to manila.......you go to clark because clark is a destination all its own......mukhang nde pa kayo familiar sa clark....you should try visiting.....pampanga has its own charm.....gud fud...it's own malls....nice hotes and resort.....good roads....tsitera tsitera...:)

if ur from cebu and you need to go Cebu,why fly to Clark.the jeepney in cebu is take only a 30second..

What the heck is this one?? It makes no sense at all...:lol::lol:

I guess you're joking.

and why would you do that .....that is a stupid thing to do.....you don't go to clark because you want to go to manila.......you go to clark because clark is a destination all its own......mukhang nde pa kayo familiar sa clark....you should try visiting.....pampanga has its own charm.....gud fud...it's own malls....nice hotes and resort.....good roads....tsitera tsitera...:)

I've been to both, i just prefer Cebu although i am more inclined to go to Northern Luzon if beach resort is one of my target. One good thing has is in subic because of that aquatic or dolphin show. I guess further north of Pampanga, there is this hundred islands national park.

Then I see you really are joking. You have google don't you? Here is an opinion piece in Manila Times on Diosdado Macapagal:

http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/component/content/article/86-special-reports/27040-poor-boy-from-lubaogreatest-meritocracy-story-

I don't agree with renaming places in the country with all sorts of people but Macapagal is just a deserving if one were to judge him according to his record. He was ahead of his time. There are a few more pieces in Manila Times if you wish to check.

An opinion piece in Manila Times? And you take it as fact? you make me laugh.

An opinion piece in Manila Times? And you take it as fact? you make me laugh.

You have google. Come back when you can dig up some facts and tell us why. That opinion piece (and other newspapers) can give you direction where to look for. The sad thing is that having worked a number of times there, I have met people who talked intelligently but say nothing intelligent. Have a good day. :nuts:

if it werent for his infamous daughter, Diosdado would have been forgotten for his mediocre presidency.

wow the hatred on the daughter is spurted on the dead father......read your history young man......wag too much emo....:lol:

Just a little reality check here.

Can someone tell us how many new buildings/streets/airports/highways, etc. were renamed Diosdado Macapagal or Eva Macapagal since 2001?

And can we compare the same with Benigno Aquino, Jr. or Corazon Aquino since 1986?

It would probably be interesting to know who has more buildings/structures named after him or her.

On another note, I admire Noynoy Aquino's strong stand against having his name or picture (or that of any incumbent government official) on posters/billboards/literature. For that I believe he is sincerely humble and far more intelligent than his mother (although his mother was probably a bit more humble than him). It looks like he got good characteristics from each of his parents.

In 2016, I would like to do a count of how many new buildings/structures etc. were named after any of the Aquinos. Then we'll know who really is putting their parents or whatever on a pedestal.

what exactly Eva Macapagal did to the Philippines to deserve the honor of being named an airport after? aside from giving birth to a cheat?

Between Ninoy and Diosdado, Ninoy infinitely deserves the honor of having the premier airport named after him.

Also, there is no Ninoy Aquino Boulevard here in MM. which is good I think. It will besmirch his honor if he'll be named after an overpriced road.

Diosdado Macapagal is a good president too. He should be honored too.

what exactly Eva Macapagal did to the Philippines to deserve the honor of being named an airport after? aside from giving birth to a cheat?

Between Ninoy and Diosdado, Ninoy infinitely deserves the honor of having the premier airport named after him.

[b[Also, there is no Ninoy Aquino Boulevard here in MM.[/b] which is good I think. It will besmirch his honor if he'll be named after an overpriced road.

Well, there is Ninoy Aquino Ave. in Paranaque. On the other hand I think Magsaysay deserves to have more credit than Macapagal.

^^^ Everyone has to be credited ..remember they are all former presidents in one way or another they done good to the Philippines..

Why is this forum a battle of the Aquino's and Macapagal's? Isn't this forum is focused on the development of the DMIA airport? What's with the name? What we need is an airport that is functional and at par with other international airports that could help improve the economy of the Philippines. Or better yet start a different forum to discuss this competition.

I don't think DMIA will develop a significant domestic market, whether inbound or outbound. What do they have that will attract domestic tourists that the tourists don't have in their provinces? If I were from the province (especially the Visayas and Mindanao), I would choose to go first to Manila instead of Clark. Almost anything that can be bought or done in Clark can be found in most major cities in the country (even casinos).

Which is why I am in favor of an arrangement in say, 6-10 years time of making NAIA like Haneda and DMIA like Narita. By then hopefully there will be a high speed rail link between both airports. Although HND is already opening its international wing, it remains that NRT is the de facto international gateway in the Greater Tokyo area (Chiba, Kanagawa, Saitama, and Tokyo prefectures).

I just noticed your post. You're right about the domestic market part, but you never know it can be competitive, it will just divide the Metro Manila population, one from the North would have an easy access to DMIA since from Balintawak, it will only take less that 1hr and 1/2 (which is probably the same amount of time to NAIA during traffic hours), NAIA would still have the people from Central Manila, down to south and the southern tagalog provinces. Since domestic travel are now made cheaper by LCCs, expect the flow of domestic travelers/tourists. As far as the international operation that would be a subject of debate, one the Philippines has not really established itself as a prime foreign tourist spot it is mostly up to the OFWs to fill up the bulk of international travels, so again, it would devide the market between NAIA and DMIA. As far as this thing goes, it will be hard for DMIA to attract all foreign legacy carriers to operate in that part of the country as long as NAIA international is fully operational. Isn't this is one of the reason why the Kuwaiti Investors requested the Phil Gov to shut down airports withing 80 mile radious? THe government turn it down, the Kuwaiti didn't counter offer anymore to grab that opportunity in developing Clark and agree with what the Philippine Gov insisted.

I agree with your second paragraph, I also see Haneda and Narita like situation in this region of Luzon. I am pretty sure somehow that with DMIA development, would help decongest NAIA, especially if MCIA (and perhaps DVO) would recieve more international services around asia, middleast and other region of the globe if the market atmosphere warrant it.

I just noticed your post. You're right about the domestic market part, but you never know it can be competitive, it will just divide the Metro Manila population, one from the North would have an easy access to DMIA since from Balintawak, it will only take less that 1hr and 1/2 (which is probably the same amount of time to NAIA during traffic hours), NAIA would still have the people from Central Manila, down to south and the southern tagalog provinces. Since domestic travel are now made cheaper by LCCs, expect the flow of domestic travelers/tourists. As far as the international operation that would be a subject of debate, one the Philippines has not really established itself as a prime foreign tourist spot it is mostly up to the OFWs to fill up the bulk of international travels, so again, it would devide the market between NAIA and DMIA. As far as this thing goes, it will be hard for DMIA to attract all foreign legacy carriers to operate in that part of the country as long as NAIA international is fully operational. Isn't this is one of the reason why the Kuwaiti Investors requested the Phil Gov to shut down airports withing 80 mile radious? THe government turn it down, the Kuwaiti didn't counter offer anymore to grab that opportunity in developing Clark and agree with what the Philippine Gov insisted.

I agree with your second paragraph, I also see Haneda and Narita like situation in this region of Luzon. I am pretty sure somehow that with DMIA development, would help decongest NAIA, especially if MCIA (and perhaps DVO) would recieve more international services around asia, middleast and other region of the globe if the market atmosphere warrant it.

Yeah, we're pretty much in agreement with most issues regarding the airports. Especially the one on Haneda and Narita complementing each other.

But I don't think the government can handle a split arrangement between the 2 airports at this point in time as you mention in a few sentences of your first paragraph because what will dictate which airline goes where would be market forces. The gov't. at this stage can't make solid decisions because they lack funds for practically any major infrastructure investment.

Re the Kuwaiti investors, it shows how shrewd they are as businessmen. If their wishes were allowed, then DMIA would have become the new Narita of the Philippines, while NAIA would become the Haneda. One of the problems with the Kuwaitis is that they didn't include the ancillary infrastructure such as the HSR links between Metro Manila and DMIA. So this would have created more chaos in the first few years than good.

But sometimes you need to do something radical so that people and the country will progress...however the Kuwaiti proposal was really disadvantageous to the Philippine government and people.

Yep, I agree.

Will this happen in Noynoy's term... i don't think so...

First Pac seeks complete Clark airport dev’t plan
http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20100927-294511/First-Pac-seeks-complete-Clark-airport-devt-plan

MVP says blueprint needed to lure investors
By Paolo Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 02:01:00 09/27/2010

Filed Under: Infrastructure, Heavy construction

MANILA, Philippines—The local infrastructure unit of Hong Kong-based First Pacific Co. Ltd. wants the government to come up with a more comprehensive development plan for the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in the Clark Freeport, Pampanga.

Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC) chair Manuel V. Pangilinan said this would be key if the government was serious in wanting to attract the private sector to help expand and modernize the DMIA, which is being primed to replace Manila’s congested airports.

Pangilinan said a more complete development plan for the DMIA should be included in the government’s list of private-public partnership (PPP) infrastructure projects.

At the moment, only the construction of a city terminal at DMIA is included in the government’s list of PPPs.

“We’re looking at the total airport project,” Pangilinan said.

He said the most vital part of the DMIA, other than the construction of a bigger airport terminal itself, was the construction of a high-speed railway system that would link the Clark facility to Metro Manila, where most of air passengers will come from and go to.

Pangilinan said the government has yet to come up with a more detailed plan of what it wanted done at DMIA.

“There are a lot of things that we don’t know yet—the design requirements, how many runways need to be built, what the condition of the existing terminals is,” he said.

This might not come during Aquino's administration. Depending how strong are their political will to modify their previous submitted infrastructure plans for the next yr to come, then we'll see how serious they are to have DMIA be completely developed.

Which is why I am in favor of an arrangement in say, 6-10 years time of making NAIA like Haneda and DMIA like Narita. By then hopefully there will be a high speed rail link between both airports. Although HND is already opening its international wing, it remains that NRT is the de facto international gateway in the Greater Tokyo area (Chiba, Kanagawa, Saitama, and Tokyo prefectures).

But Narita is only about 60 kilometers from Tokyo. DMIA is more than 85 kilometers away. Most other airports that are outside of town: Kuala Lumpur International, Chek Lap Kok in Hong Kong, Suvarnabumi in Bangkok, Sukarno-Hatta in Jakarta are only about 30-40 kilometers from the capital they serve.

DMIA is just too far from Manila for it to properly serve Manila. At best, it will be the airport of choice for people wanting to go to Pampanga, Bataan, Zambales, Tarlac and Benguet.

But Narita is only about 60 kilometers from Tokyo. DMIA is more than 85 kilometers away. Most other airports that are outside of town: Kuala Lumpur International, Chek Lap Kok in Hong Kong, Suvarnabumi in Bangkok, Sukarno-Hatta in Jakarta are only about 30-40 kilometers from the capital they serve.

DMIA is just too far from Manila for it to properly serve Manila. At best, it will be the airport of choice for people wanting to go to Pampanga, Bataan, Zambales, Tarlac and Benguet.

You can go on with that argument (which is correct, to a great degree), but the government will never build an international airport anywhere between northern Metro Manila and Pampanga. Which is why DMIA is the logical choice.

DMIA is already there. So why build a new airport when you can't maximize the one 85km. away?

I am still for expanding NAIA until it reaches its maximum in terms of passenger movements based on the runway capacity...so that might be 50-70 million. What needs to be expanded are the terminals (which right now, serve about 24 million passengers per annum) over the near term. I reckon NAIA is good for at least 6-10 more years, and even if DMIA is eventually made the premiere international gateway, you will still have NAIA serving in a role similar to Haneda.

DMIA is not practical as the only large airport to service domestic flights for Metro Manila. I'm sure we'll still be seeing NAIA for quite some time.

if it werent for his infamous daughter, Diosdado would have been forgotten for his mediocre presidency.

really? how sure are you? you are the mediocre who thought he knows a lot about Philippine Politics. My goodness! :banana: hahaha

DMIA is already there. So why build a new airport when you can't maximize the one 85km. away?

I am still for expanding NAIA until it reaches its maximum in terms of passenger movements based on the runway capacity...so that might be 50-70 million. What needs to be expanded are the terminals (which right now, serve about 24 million passengers per annum) over the near term. I reckon NAIA is good for at least 6-10 more years, and even if DMIA is eventually made the premiere international gateway, you will still have NAIA serving in a role similar to Haneda.

DMIA is not practical as the only large airport to service domestic flights for Metro Manila. I'm sure we'll still be seeing NAIA for quite some time.

This is really true. NAIA terminals can be redesigned to accomodate more passengers in the future.. 6 to 7 years might be a short projection but that would be depending on the current economic and political atmosphere, it might grow faster than we expected. However, with the international economic crisis is not completely over yet coupled by the slow down in aviation industry would and should also be taken into consideration.


really? how sure are you? you are the mediocre who thought he knows a lot about Philippine Politics. My goodness! :banana: hahaha

Ano ba yan! Luma na yan. May ibang discussion na ulit. :lol:

^ haha. i did not know. lol

You can go on with that argument (which is correct, to a great degree), but the government will never build an international airport anywhere between northern Metro Manila and Pampanga.

If we were more forward-thinking, we could have expanded Plaridel.

If we were more forward-thinking, we could have expanded Plaridel.

and move the general aviation traffic to CRK?? hmm, pwede...!!:D

really? how sure are you? you are the mediocre who thought he knows a lot about Philippine Politics. My goodness! :banana: hahaha

more people know Diosdado Macapagal as the father of the crook than him being president.

Also, Diosdado Macapagal is the overpriced road near MOA.

kaninong 2nd account ka na naman kaya? hmm :ohno:

^ QQ :|

Bitter ka kuYa?

more people know Diosdado Macapagal as the father of the crook than him being president.

Also, Diosdado Macapagal is the overpriced road near MOA.

kaninong 2nd account ka na naman kaya? hmm :ohno:

Napaka vindictive mo naman, kasalanan ng anak, dinadamay ang ama na walang kamalay malay. Minsan kahit palakihin ng magulang ang anak na maayos tinutubuan ito ng sungay dahil sa influencia ng iba. Bakit natin paparusahan ang walang kamuang muang at nananahimik?

more people know Diosdado Macapagal as the father of the crook than him being president.

Also, Diosdado Macapagal is the overpriced road near MOA.

kaninong 2nd account ka na naman kaya? hmm :ohno:

Tame your dwarvish tongue lad. :pet:

you should refrain from inventing nonsense idiomatic expressions

If we were more forward-thinking, we could have expanded Plaridel.

Let's expound on this reply to the thread instead of getting carried away by the little catfights between Kintoy and his pro-GMA opponents.

With a 900 meter airport there's a long way to go before Plaridel is expanded to handle international flights. Even if you rotated the orientation of the current runway you won't be able to build beyond 2,000 meters because there's a river snaking around it from the east with the NLEX on the westernmost fringe. Plus, it's only 6m AMSL, which means it's prone to flooding.

Clark has always been ideal from a military perspective because of the higher elevation plus the wide plains surrounding the area. The nearest mountain that could threaten aircraft is Mt. Arayat in Pampanga, which hardly poses a hindrance to take-off and landing.

So I don't think Plaridel will even be considered at all for elevation to international gateway status in my lifetime unless the towns of Plaridel and Pulilan are razed to the ground for construction to start anew.

ang maganda sa clark airport kapag nag full blast talaga, kalevel na nya sa laki ang changi airport ng singapore. na pwedeng dalawa ang runway, just like hk airport din. narita i believe dalawa din pero mainly yung isa lang ginagamit dahil yung isa ay short runway lang. sana maging incheon din ang dating ng airport natin. wow, saya mangarap.

Let's expound on this reply to the thread instead of getting carried away by the little catfights between Kintoy and his pro-GMA opponents.



:rofl:


ang maganda sa clark airport kapag nag full blast talaga, kalevel na nya sa laki ang changi airport ng singapore. na pwedeng dalawa ang runway, just like hk airport din. narita i believe dalawa din pero mainly yung isa lang ginagamit dahil yung isa ay short runway lang. sana maging incheon din ang dating ng airport natin. wow, saya mangarap.

DMIA is not that busy yet is why only one runway is being used. Looking like incheon airport aesthetic wise is always good. DMIA will be in the same level as the airports above if DMIA becomes a hub for all transiting passengers in the whole asian region. Hopefully that can be achieved but as for now, we still can't see that happening now. Atleast not yet.

you should refrain from inventing nonsense idiomatic expressions

Because you sounds like a poor dwarf that dont think whenever you do that ranting like this: :rant:
:lol:

I think you're just better off posting your photos while taming your tonque as well when you write your blogs.

DMIA is not that busy yet is why only one runway is being used. Looking like incheon airport aesthetic wise is always good. DMIA will be in the same level as the airports above if DMIA becomes a hub for all transiting passengers in the whole asian region. Hopefully that can be achieved but as for now, we still can't see that happening now. Atleast not yet.

diba ung isang runway (02L/20R) kelangang ayusin?? may mga butas butas daw ata doon, ewan ko lang kung naayos na ngayon...:D tsaka wider kasi ung isang runway (60m) kaya un ang ginagamit madalas, tapos it also offers Cat I ILS Approach...

sana nga hanggang cat III para autoland na...:lol::nuts:

more people know Diosdado Macapagal as the father of the crook than him being president.

Also, Diosdado Macapagal is the overpriced road near MOA.

kaninong 2nd account ka na naman kaya? hmm :ohno:

Marami bang nang-aaway sa iyo dito? And you though I am one of them and I used a different account? Shhh.... :lol:

Kawawa ka naman you are part of that "more people" you said. awww

Because you sounds like a poor dwarf that dont think whenever you do that ranting like this: :rant:
:lol:

I think you're just better off posting your photos while taming your tonque as well when you write your blogs.

Dwarves are not poor, they mine gold and precious stones.

I think you should not skip on whatever antineurotic drugs your doc told u to take...

Dwarves are not poor, they mine gold and precious stones.

I think you should not skip on whatever antineurotic drugs your doc told u to take...

:bash::weird:

:rofl:

DMIA is not that busy yet is why only one runway is being used. Looking like incheon airport aesthetic wise is always good. DMIA will be in the same level as the airports above if DMIA becomes a hub for all transiting passengers in the whole asian region. Hopefully that can be achieved but as for now, we still can't see that happening now. Atleast not yet.

Please don't compare Incheon to DMIA at this point. Incheon was built from the ground up and from reclaimed lang, while DMIA is patchwork from a former US military base with 2 parallel runways but too close to each other for commercial traffic. They didn't even have to reclaim anything for DMIA, they just dusted off the ash from Pinatubo's wrath.

Incheon was planned because Kimpo was growing faster after the very successful 1988 Seoul Olympics. Construction started in 1992, and was completed after 8 years. In the case of Clark, they closed it in late 1991, then the American bases were booted out in 1992, and the Clark Special Economic Zone (CSEZ) opened a year later. In 1995 Ramos designated it as the new international airport but it took about 8 years before airlines started using it seriously. From less than 8000 pax movements in 2003, DMIA jumped to almost 60K movements the following year, and then quadrupled in 2005, doubled in 2006, and since then has been growing at 10-15% per annum. So why did the government only start expansion in 2007 with only a P130 million or USD 4 million terminal? Very shortsighted, I must say:bash:

So why did the government only start expansion in 2007 with only a P130 million or USD 4 million terminal? Very shortsighted, I must say:bash:

lack of support infrastructure.. SCTEx is not enough... Northrail, Skyway link, and the planned bullet train must all be completed before we can see airlines moving to CRK...:2cents:

Please don't compare Incheon to DMIA at this point. Incheon was built from the ground up and from reclaimed lang, while DMIA is patchwork from a former US military base with 2 parallel runways but too close to each other for commercial traffic. They didn't even have to reclaim anything for DMIA, they just dusted off the ash from Pinatubo's wrath.

So why did the government only start expansion in 2007 with only a P130 million or USD 4 million terminal? Very shortsighted, I must say:bash:

Not comparing. DMIA is far from Icheon not just how Icheon was created but I was just refering more on aesthetical design on DMIA terminal if an extension or t2 is built.

DMIA is a star at DoT-3’s upcoming grand expo
Saturday, October 16


Director Ronnie P. Tiotuico of DoT – Region 3 recently announced that the Department of Tourism will be holding a grand exposition at SM City Clark on November 12-14, 2010.

The expo, titled “North Philippines (NorthPhil) Tourism and Travel Expo 2010” is aimed at enhancing Region 3’s emerging image as a “mall of destinations.” With the theme “Go North! A wellspring of diversity,” the NorthPhil Expo 2010 promotes demand-driven tourism products and infrastructure development—timely causes for Angeles City, which is being re-envisioned by Mayor Edgardo Pamintuan as a tourism and entertainment capital on par with Las Vegas and Pattaya, Thailand.

The expo will also highlight Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) at Clark Freeport as the global gateway to Luzon’s myriad tourism attractions, as well as its important role as an economic growth engine for nearby provinces. Central Luzon receives about half a million domestic and foreign and tourists yearly; the volume of transients sustained in part by DMIA in Clark, whose monthly volume of inbound passengers (mostly from Korea, Malaysia and Singapore) has reached 26,000 in 2009.

The annual expo will also have exhibits of travel destinations, souvenirs and delicacies at farm gate prices, theatrical presentations on the history and customs of different regions, as well as games shows, product demonstrations and raffles.

Source: Department of Tourism – Region III

I've just watched Discovery Channel..and they feature the Changi INtertantional Airport Terminal 3..sana ganyan din kaganda gawin sa DMIA

Dwarves are not poor, they mine gold and precious stones.

I think you should not skip on whatever antineurotic drugs your doc told u to take...

Bagay ka talaga sa 4chan...

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http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=622114&publicationSubCategoryId=66

MPTC eyes government priority road projects
By Mary Ann Ll. Reyes (The Philippine Star) Updated October 19, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)


MANILA, Philippines - Metro Pacific Tollways Corp. (MPTC) said it may participate in other government priority road projects either by way of bidding or by submitting unsolicited proposals.

MPTC president Ramoncito Fernandez told The STAR that while they are still awaiting word on the road projects to be prioritized by the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH), he mentioned the Calamba, Laguna Expressway and the Skyway link to the Manila airport to Coastal Road as among such projects worth looking into.

Last June, the DPWH accepted MPTC’s unsolicited proposal to undertake the P17-billion, 13.2-kilometer elevated connector road project that will connect the North Luzon Expressway (NLEX) with the South Luzon Expressway (SLEX).

The connector road will run along the Philippine National Railway (PNR) tracks within the Manila Central Business District, from the end of NLEX at C3 to the beginning of Skyway 1 at Buendia in Makati, and is projected to start in 2012.

MPTC’s parent Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC) is also looking at a new project for the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in Clark that will include not only a passenger terminal but also a new runway, road network and railway express that will span from Clark in Pampanga to Makati.

But MPIC and MPTC chairman Manuel V. Pangilinan earlier said they hope that the government’s private-public sector partnership (PPP) program will include not only the passenger terminal but the entire project as well.

Pangilinan said they have tapped consultants to design the whole project, adding that will probably take five to 10 years before the Clark project materializes.

He explained that while it may take some time before the project takes off, he emphasized that an airport express train service is needed if the Clark airport seeks to attract more foreign carriers.

“The Philippines is the only country which still does not have an airport express service,” he stressed.

Pangilinan also told The STAR that the airport express project can be complementary to the connector road project that will be undertaken by MPTC.  “We do not know yet whether it is the connector road or the airport express railroad that will be constructed above the PNR tracks. We are thinking of three levels. On the ground will be the PNR rail system, and above it are the connector road or the airport express railroad. But the two projects will both use the PNR right-of-way.”

He pointed out that while the train project may compete in some way with the connector road project, he emphasized that what is needed is to bring in more people into Clark.

As envisioned, he said the airport express may have three stops - Balintawak, Espana and Buendia.

Pangilinan noted that one of the requirements among foreign air carriers is for a train to travel 40 minutes from Metro Manila to Clark for them to locate at DMIA. “The speed of the train must be calibrated,” he said.

In an earlier interview, Fernandez said it is very natural for the Clark airport to use the NLEX right-of-way for a possible high-speed rail.

“If you have an airport in the North, you need a high-speed rail that will bring passengers in and out of the airport,” he added.

Both MPIC and San Miguel Corp. (SMC) earlier announced that they are in talks on the possibility of being partners in joining a Filipino-Korean consortium led by Philco Aero, which earlier made an unsolicited proposal to construct a $177 million (more than P8 billion) new terminal (Terminal 2) at the DMIA. 

The Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) has announced that its joint venture special committee (JVSC) had favored the Philco Aero-led group for “detailed negotiations” for the Terminal 2 project.

In an earlier interview, Fernandez said it is very natural for the Clark airport to use the NLEX right-of-way for a possible high-speed rail.

--naiimagine ko, na ang NLEX ay mayroong railroad either elevated sa gitna nito or sa magkabilang gilid. High Class, World Class!

Jin Air to Start Flights at DMIAOctober 18, 2010, 3:13pm

CLARK FREEPORT, Pampanga — Starting October 27, 2010, South Korea’s budget carrier Jin Air will start its regular flights at the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA), plying the Incheon-Clark-Incheon route five times weekly.

Clark International Airport Corporation (CIAC) President and CEO Victor Jose Luciano announced the entry of the newest airline at the DMIA signals Jin Air’s full operations at the 2,367-hectare Clark Civil Aviation Complex in the Clark Freeport Zone in Pampanga.

“We welcome Jin Air’s regular flights at DMIA that would not only bring in more Korean tourists to Clark but also give the people of Northern Luzon the opportunity to visit the beautiful country Korea,” he added.

Jin Air will operate five flights weekly at Clark utilizing the airlines’ 180-seater Boeing 737-800 aircraft for their Incheon-Clark-Incheon operations.

Jin Air is the sixth and latest addition to the international airlines operating at the DMIA and is the second South Korean commercial airline after Asiana Airlines that started operations in October, 2003.

On October 27, Luciano will lead a simple welcome ceremony for the Jin Air inaugural flight at the DMIA that is expected to arrive at about 1:00 a.m. At 6 p.m. of the same day, Luciano will host a cocktail for airlines and the tourism industry at the Mahogany Room of the Holiday Inn Clark in the Mimosa Leisure Estate.

Jin Air is a full subsidiary of Korean Air. Korean Air is the flag carrier and the largest airline of South Korea. Korean Air serves 130 cities in 45 countries around the world while its domestic divisions serve 20 destinations.

Korean Air is among the top 20 airlines in the world in terms of passengers carried and is also a top-ranked international freight carrier. The airlines’ international hub is the Incheon International Airport.

Jin Air began operations in July, 2008 with routes to regional destinations in Korea using their Boeing 737-800 and in October, 2009, began flights to Guam, Osaka and Bangkok.

“Since 2004, Korean tourists have immensely contributed to the local economy of Angeles City and the communities in the Metro Clark area as well as the rest of Central Luzon. There are an estimated 20,000 Korean tourists in the Clark and Subic areas,” Luciano said.

“The Korean tourists have contributed to the growth and development of Clark which in effect generated businesses and employment for the people in the area,” he added.

Luciano also said upon arrival in Incheon, Jin Air passengers can go to other destinations in the world.

“Travelers can go to other destinations in the world when you take Jin Air,” he pointed out.

Jin Air has five Boeing 737-800 aircraft in its fleet for their operations in the South East Asian region, including Japan.

Jin Air adds to the host of foreign and local carriers operating international and domestic flights at the DMIA that include Asiana Airlines that flies daily to Incheon; Tiger Airways that flies daily to Singapore; and, Air Asia that flies daily to Kuala Lumpur and Kota Kinabalu.

Also operating flights at the DMIA is local carrier Cebu Pacific Air, which flies to Hong Kong, Singapore, Macau and Bangkok as well as domestically to Cebu. The Spirit of Manila Airlines flies to Taipei while and South East Asian Airlines (Seair) flies via to Caticlan. :cheers:

In an earlier interview, Fernandez said it is very natural for the Clark airport to use the NLEX right-of-way for a possible high-speed rail.

--naiimagine ko, na ang NLEX ay mayroong railroad either elevated sa gitna nito or sa magkabilang gilid. High Class, World Class!

It can be like the Airport Expressway of Hong Kong where the airport express railway runs at its side

5 to 10 years pa ang feasibility studies at siguro 5 years ang construction..mmm tanda ko na nun

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MPTC eyes government priority road projects
By Mary Ann Ll. Reyes (The Philippine Star) Updated October 19, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)

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MPTC’s parent Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC) is also looking at a new project for the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) in Clark that will include not only a passenger terminal but also a new runway, road network and railway express that will span from Clark in Pampanga to Makati.

But MPIC and MPTC chairman Manuel V. Pangilinan earlier said they hope that the government’s private-public sector partnership (PPP) program will include not only the passenger terminal but the entire project as well.

Pangilinan said they have tapped consultants to design the whole project, adding that will probably take five to 10 years before the Clark project materializes.

He explained that while it may take some time before the project takes off, he emphasized that an airport express train service is needed if the Clark airport seeks to attract more foreign carriers.

“The Philippines is the only country which still does not have an airport express service,” he stressed.

Pangilinan also told The STAR that the airport express project can be complementary to the connector road project that will be undertaken by MPTC.  “We do not know yet whether it is the connector road or the airport express railroad that will be constructed above the PNR tracks. We are thinking of three levels. On the ground will be the PNR rail system, and above it are the connector road or the airport express railroad. But the two projects will both use the PNR right-of-way.”

He pointed out that while the train project may compete in some way with the connector road project, he emphasized that what is needed is to bring in more people into Clark.

As envisioned, he said the airport express may have three stops - Balintawak, Espana and Buendia.

Pangilinan noted that one of the requirements among foreign air carriers is for a train to travel 40 minutes from Metro Manila to Clark for them to locate at DMIA. “The speed of the train must be calibrated,” he said.

In an earlier interview, Fernandez said it is very natural for the Clark airport to use the NLEX right-of-way for a possible high-speed rail.

“If you have an airport in the North, you need a high-speed rail that will bring passengers in and out of the airport,” he added.

Both MPIC and San Miguel Corp. (SMC) earlier announced that they are in talks on the possibility of being partners in joining a Filipino-Korean consortium led by Philco Aero, which earlier made an unsolicited proposal to construct a $177 million (more than P8 billion) new terminal (Terminal 2) at the DMIA. 

The Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) has announced that its joint venture special committee (JVSC) had favored the Philco Aero-led group for “detailed negotiations” for the Terminal 2 project.

Why can't they speed up the feasibility studies? Are they waiting for air traffic to build up at DMIA? Isn't this going to be another chicken and egg thing?

Re the $177 million new terminal, it seems more of patchwork again. If ever they push through with this they should have in the blueprint options to integrate this to a larger airport facility worth $2-3 billion. MVP asking for the whole project is a right step, at least implementation will be integrated and nobody else to blame but one proponent instead of many other smaller projects involved.

Re the airport train express, the three stops looks OK. How about placing the middle stop along Aurora Boulevard instead of Espana? Or if they are planning to use Espana indeed, shouldn't there be an LRT extension from Line 7? Buenida, IMO is too far away from the major interchange at Magallanes. Besides, I doubt if the Forbes park people will agree to have a major train station at their backyard.

as long as it will take more than 2-3 hrs to travel to Clark from Metro Manila, it will never catch on.

^^ agree. tama lang yung timeline ni pangilinan. we still have the underutilized terminal 3. the market will decide.

^^ agree. tama lang yung timeline ni pangilinan. we still have the underutilized terminal 3. the market will decide.

My guess is that the expansion of Cebu Pacific will start to move to the other hubs like CEB and DVO instead of NAIA and DMIA, at least for domestic destinations. Well, maybe even with some international destinations. I think we will start seeing CEBBKK, CEBKUL, CEBTPE, CEBBKI maybe CEBGUM (if Cat 1 is restored) once they've maximized the allocations from MNL. As for CRK to the other destinations, this is still likely but mostly for LCCs and charters.

As for DVO, let's hope to see Manado and Koror restored even though with other carriers. Maybe even DVOBKI with A319s or ATRs.

Having said that, it seems that we will definitely see the growth of Cebu Pacific and Airphilexpress while PAL sorts out its labor issues and Cat 1 restoration by the CAAP. Once Cat 1 is restored, we will probably see a surge of widebody activity on PAL to the US (beginning with the 773 and possible new routes like SAN and SEA/ORD).

nice Jin Air 737-800 aircraft sa DMIA

It can be like the Airport Expressway of Hong Kong where the airport express railway runs at its side

kahit pano may spaces pa yung sa gilid ng expressway dun sa HK.
saka wala masyado tatamaan mga ROW

dito sa NLEX dami tatamaang row kung at grade at parang malabong atgrade pa. mukhang elevated portion ang Manila to candaba viaduct, tapos siguro pede nang at-grade sa portion na yun.

In an earlier interview, Fernandez said it is very natural for the Clark airport to use the NLEX right-of-way for a possible high-speed rail.

--naiimagine ko, na ang NLEX ay mayroong railroad either elevated sa gitna nito or sa magkabilang gilid. High Class, World Class!

It can be like the Airport Expressway of Hong Kong where the airport express railway runs at its side

nabanggit na dati ni MVP sa media na sa gitna ng NLEX posibleng ipadaan ang airport express

Re the airport train express, the three stops looks OK. How about placing the middle stop along Aurora Boulevard instead of Espana? Or if they are planning to use Espana indeed, shouldn't there be an LRT extension from Line 7? Buenida, IMO is too far away from the major interchange at Magallanes. Besides, I doubt if the Forbes park people will agree to have a major train station at their backyard.

nasabi sa article na "papadaanin ang airport express sa ibabaw ng riles ng PNR" kaya MALAYONG tamaan ang FORBES PARK. at ang riles ng PNR ang rason kung bakit sa Buendia, Espana at Balintawak ang mga napiling istasyon hindi sa Aurora Blvd na napakalayo. dahil hindi na kelangan pang intindihin ang "ROW" o Right of Way. Mukhang ikaw lang ang makikinabang dyan. :lol:

ganito ang itsura na sinasabi nina MVP sa plano nila na ilagay ang connector road at DMIA airport express sa ibabaw ng riles ng PNR para sa hindi pa nakakaalam

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nasabi sa article na "papadaanin ang airport express sa ibabaw ng riles ng PNR" kaya MALAYONG tamaan ang FORBES PARK. at ang riles ng PNR ang rason kung bakit sa Buendia, Espana at Balintawak ang mga napiling istasyon hindi sa Aurora Blvd na napakalayo. dahil hindi na kelangan pang intindihin ang "ROW" o Right of Way. Mukhang ikaw lang ang makikinabang dyan. :lol:

What I meant by Aurora Blvd. is the section where there is a bridge above the PNR tracks, near Bacood in Sta. Mesa (between V. Mapa and Pureza stations). You can also use the PNR Sta. Mesa station which is a few meters away from Aurora Blvd. (parallel to Altura Ext.) This seems more logical than Espana. The thing going for the current PNR Espana station is that they have more area, so that could be the major consideration why it will be paced there instead of PNR Sta. Mesa station.

The Buendia section along SSHiway is along the PNR ROW. However it was not discussed where the terminus of the airport express will be, or if it will indeed connect with NAIA.

This is what was said in the article earlier: Pangilinan also told The STAR that the airport express project can be complementary to the connector road project that will be undertaken by MPTC.  “We do not know yet whether it is the connector road or the airport express railroad that will be constructed above the PNR tracks. We are thinking of three levels. On the ground will be the PNR rail system, and above it are the connector road or the airport express railroad. But the two projects will both use the PNR right-of-way.”

If you have the airport express connect with NAIA then it will pass by the backyard of Dasmarinas and Ecology Villages, and not Forbes Park. It will then find a way to connect into NAIA, but highly unlikely along EDSA which is crowded already. So I possibly see a spur connection somewhere at the Sales interchange of Fort Bonifacio leading towards Nichols (where PNR also has a station).

As of this stage, we don't really know the exact route. But I would think it would be foolish to build an airport express which has stations in Balintawak, Espana and Buendia if it doesn't go the extra few kilometers to have a terminus at NAIA.

that railway link is sure adding more complexity to air travel if Clark will become the premier airport. imagine having to go to Balintawak or Sta. Mesa or Kalookan to board the trains, especially if you come from Novaliches or Zapote-Alabang. then taking the train itself with all your luggage. then disembarking at the Clark station, then taking another ride to the airport.

it would take more than 3 hrs to go to Clark if that is the case. plus the 3hr checkout time, it means you have to devote minimum of 6 hrs for pre-flight activities. kung HK lang ang biyahe, mas matagal pa ang biyahe papuntang airport, lol

Tsk tsk, ang anti-airport express train mo talaga. Hindi naman sa Caloocan ang isang stop ah. Ang sabi, Balintawak, Espanya, at Buendia ang mga station. Balintawak Station for Quezon City, Caloocan, Malabon, Valenzuela, Navotas and northern Manila residents; Espanya for Manila, San Juan, and Mandaluyong residents; Buendia for Makati and southern Metro Manila residents. At ang sabi ni MVP: the ideal travel time is 40 mins, so the speed of the trains should be calibrated.

kelan ba naging reality ang ideal na yan?

Hi everyone,
I am new here and would like to introduce myself.

I also was wondering why the new terminal at DMIA is not in use although it already was inaugurated. Would be nice to see some images of airlines docked at the 2 new aerobridges from the apron side.

Can anyone take some shots please ? Thanks !

The Buendia section along SSHiway is along the PNR ROW. However it was not discussed where the terminus of the airport express will be, or if it will indeed connect with NAIA.

If you have the airport express connect with NAIA then it will pass by the backyard of Dasmarinas and Ecology Villages, and not Forbes Park. It will then find a way to connect into NAIA, but highly unlikely along EDSA which is crowded already. So I possibly see a spur connection somewhere at the Sales interchange of Fort Bonifacio leading towards Nichols (where PNR also has a station).

As of this stage, we don't really know the exact route. But I would think it would be foolish to build an airport express which has stations in Balintawak, Espana and Buendia if it doesn't go the extra few kilometers to have a terminus at NAIA.

It MUST be FOOLISH to CONNECT DMIA Airport Express to NAIA when YOU KNOW Dasmarinas and Ecology Villages would be AGAINST it in the first place. Am I right?? :lol:

That's why the planned Airport Express which is being pushed by MVP will be built ALONG NLEX AND over PNR tracks. Why?? It SAVES TIME, MONEY, EFFORT. Why would MVP build it to "other" properties where he CAN use his own and Government's Property via PPP?? Wouldn't be that MORE ideal???

It MUST be FOOLISH to CONNECT DMIA Airport Express to NAIA when YOU KNOW Dasmarinas and Ecology Villages would be AGAINST it in the first place. Am I right?? :lol:

That's why the planned Airport Express which is being pushed by MVP will be built ALONG NLEX AND over PNR tracks. Why?? It SAVES TIME, MONEY, EFFORT. Why would MVP build it to "other" properties where he CAN use his own and Government's Property via PPP?? Wouldn't be that MORE ideal???

It would make sense to have connections between NAIA and DMIA in the following scenarios:

1. NAIA ends up like Haneda and DMIA like Narita - in maybe 6-10 years. (Interconnectivity). Unless they are both privatized and owned by competing entities.

2. Why would the terminus of the airport express be only at Buendia? Look at all the high rises (especially Cityland) there, you can't make a major intermodal station for lack of real estate.

3. There is more real estate at Nichols area, or even at the airport. Even better if it reaches the FTI area, assuming it will be made into a major transport hub. Or at the transport hub in Bonifacio Global City (which was the original concept back in the 90s).

4. If the airport express passes along the PNR ROW in the section between EDSA and Nichols, then Dasmarinas and Ecology villages won't be as affected. There are already high rises in that area that will block the view of the airport express. It's a different story if the airport express passed through EDSA, but that won't happen because of the MRT being there.

The original plan back in the 90s was to connect the airport express to Bonifacio Global City passing underground after the Pasig River. Of course that's changed, most likely because of high construction costs and more buildings in the 15 or so years since the time of FVR.

Re your second point, that makes sense because the investment will be lesser for MPIC. Especially now that the government is open to PPP.

However, there should be a major transport hub at the terminus of the airport express. As to where that is, I cannot say at this point. Hence the feasibility studies to be made.

it will be more sensible to develop Cebu and compel airlines to originate flights from there, rather than have a patchwork of "solutions" that will force the usage of Clark, despite the impracticability of such endeavor

it will be more sensible to develop Cebu and compel airlines to originate flights from there, rather than have a patchwork of "solutions" that will force the usage of Clark, despite the impracticability of such endeavor

And that's even more impossible... so what do you want to do? Lick out those plants in MEPZA 1-2? Put a terminal between the two industrial zones?

it will be more sensible to develop Cebu and compel airlines to originate flights from there, rather than have a patchwork of "solutions" that will force the usage of Clark, despite the impracticability of such endeavor

Man, what have you been smoking these days dude, care to share it? :weird:

:lol:

Unlike you, I'm not a pothead. Go back to your bong, ok? you are having withdrawal symptoms again.

Unlike you, I'm not a pothead. Go back to your bong, ok? you are having withdrawal symptoms again.
:bash:

:rofl: talaga itong si Kintoy! Huwag kang masungit kasi!! he he, no offense spearhead, not making fun of you. Sometimes I just can't help but laugh in kintoy's punchline. Ofcourse, not to ridicule him also. He is just a character....:lol:

:rofl: talaga itong si Kintoy! Huwag kang masungit kasi!! he he, no offense spearhead, not making fun of you. Sometimes I just can't help but laugh in kintoy's punchline. Ofcourse, not to ridicule him also. He is just a character....:lol:

No worries man, i share the same sentiments when i get annoyed with kintoy's punchline sometimes. He's a comedian, without him this place will be abandoned long ago. I kindda like his character hehe... Right mr. kintoy? :hi: I guess coming back to me and calling me a pothead, and dont even know what's a "bong" means, is this some kind of a filipino street kid's slang? :lol:

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Parang Puregold ang itsura, tapos sa loob parang community health center, kulang na Lang dengue patients...

^^

:lol::lol::lol:

parang yun bahay ninyu:lol:

oo nga. kahit ako di ako nagagandahan sa loob ng DMIA. Kahit dito sa bago. Chaotic at hindi impressive. Walang class lalo na sa loob.

kahit yung exterior nya hindi masyadong pasado sa akin. Naalala ko yung design ng bagong public market namin. Tapos kapag magbabayad ka ng travel tax, para ka lang tumutubos ng cedula.

Basta ... hindi sya mukhang international!

Maganda pa ang SM Clark.

noong first time ko ngang makapunta ng DMIA, nasabi ko sa sarili ko, 'ganito lang pala sa personal, mas maganda sa picture'

I remember tuloy yung sabi ng isang forumer dito na ' OUR DOT OFFICIALS SHOULD KNOW THAT 90% OF TOURISM POTENTIAL IS AESTHETICS'

GUMAGAWA NA RIN LANG KASI HINDI PA AYUSIN!

Opinion ko lang po ah. :) walang magagalit !

It would make sense to have connections between NAIA and DMIA in the following scenarios:

1. NAIA ends up like Haneda and DMIA like Narita - in maybe 6-10 years. (Interconnectivity). Unless they are both privatized and owned by competing entities.Problem is, we're NOT in Japan

2. Why would the terminus of the airport express be only at Buendia? Look at all the high rises (especially Cityland) there, you can't make a major intermodal station for lack of real estate.Planning & Engineering has SOLUTIONS to it


4. If the airport express passes along the PNR ROW in the section between EDSA and Nichols, then Dasmarinas and Ecology villages won't be as affected. There are already high rises in that area that will block the view of the airport express. It's a different story if the airport express passed through EDSA, but that won't happen because of the MRT being there.

How come it wont happen if they can built it OVER MRT???

The original plan back in the 90s was to connect the airport express to Bonifacio Global City passing underground after the Pasig River. Of course that's changed, most likely because of high construction costs and more buildings in the 15 or so years since the time of FVR. I fully agree on this. I hope the AIRPORT EXPRESS will end up at FORT BONIFACIO instead

It would make sense to have connections between NAIA and DMIA in the following scenarios:

1. NAIA ends up like Haneda and DMIA like Narita - in maybe 6-10 years. (Interconnectivity). Unless they are both privatized and owned by competing entities.Problem is, we're NOT in Japan

There's nothing wrong with trying to emulate the Tokyo scenario. Just because we are the Philippines and not Japan doesn't mean our creative ideas end there.


2. Why would the terminus of the airport express be only at Buendia? Look at all the high rises (especially Cityland) there, you can't make a major intermodal station for lack of real estate.Planning & Engineering has SOLUTIONS to it

If you look closely at the Buendia area, there is little room for expansion except where the public school (University of Makati) is. Across the street you have Cash and Carry and SM Hypermart, so that won't happen on the west side of the PNR tracks. On the east side, you have Cityland condominiums (at least 4 of them). I know this place very well. I lived there in the past and walked along Buendia on my way to my office.

Unfortunately even if engineering and planning have solutions, fiscal management is usually their problem. If they will demolish the old flyover at Buendia corner SSHiway and make that an intermodal station then I think this is quite possible. But then again, which will come first? Phase 3 of the Skyway (connector road with NLEX), or the airport express? It's good that MPIC may end up doing both projects so this is likely to happen.


4. If the airport express passes along the PNR ROW in the section between EDSA and Nichols, then Dasmarinas and Ecology villages won't be as affected. There are already high rises in that area that will block the view of the airport express. It's a different story if the airport express passed through EDSA, but that won't happen because of the MRT being there.

How come it wont happen if they can built it OVER MRT???

The MRT is already there. MPIC doesn't own the MRT. So that will complicate issues. And why build an airport express over the existing MRT? The MRT is not consistent, i.e. there are at grade sections, underground sections and elevated sections. Definitely this will cause chaos in the planning and construction stage so I doubt it will even be considered. Not to mention it will be an eyesore aesthetically speaking.

The statement I made below which you affirmed in the positive is the best idea although it's sad that it hasn't been revived by the succeeding administrations after FVR.


The original plan back in the 90s was to connect the airport express to Bonifacio Global City passing underground after the Pasig River. Of course that's changed, most likely because of high construction costs and more buildings in the 15 or so years since the time of FVR. I fully agree on this. I hope the AIRPORT EXPRESS will end up at FORT BONIFACIO instead

that railway link is sure adding more complexity to air travel if Clark will become the premier airport. imagine having to go to Balintawak or Sta. Mesa or Kalookan to board the trains, especially if you come from Novaliches or Zapote-Alabang. then taking the train itself with all your luggage. then disembarking at the Clark station, then taking another ride to the airport.

it would take more than 3 hrs to go to Clark if that is the case. plus the 3hr checkout time, it means you have to devote minimum of 6 hrs for pre-flight activities. kung HK lang ang biyahe, mas matagal pa ang biyahe papuntang airport, lol

man....that's what tourist do in HK.....you travel by train...with your luggage transfer to your connectiong line....and finally on to the airport....that is no hussle....it's not rocket science....

No worries man, i share the same sentiments when i get annoyed with kintoy's punchline sometimes. He's a comedian, without him this place will be abandoned long ago. I kindda like his character hehe... Right mr. kintoy? :hi: I guess coming back to me and calling me a pothead, and dont even know what's a "bong" means, is this some kind of a filipino street kid's slang? :lol:

Bong? hindi mo alam? tsk tsk.

I think you giggle like a girl whenever I respond to your posts. kinda creepy, but whatever gets your rocks off man.

man....that's what tourist do in HK.....you travel by train...with your luggage transfer to your connectiong line....and finally on to the airport....that is no hussle....it's not rocket science....

Manila or Clark isn't HK. You can't compare the two. And since even in the past, you would run into pick pocketers and snatchers. I don't think airline passengers would be safe or invisible to these crook. The more they see the person have something, the more they would target. Aside from that, just the way how it is in chaotic Manila, and the amount of population, it's easy to see a train packed elbow to elbow. It is only no hassle if the flow is smooth, not over crowded and the people knows how to follow orders, then you've got these, again, the presence of husslers around. Hell, I can just see a passenger losing their wallet, or travel documents from snatchers or pick pocketers. If not their cell phone, wrist watches and other valuables.

I dont think the train going to Chep Lap Kok is the same as Manila to Clark distancewise. the Airport Express line is only 35 kms and it goes beyond the airport.

talagang that will not be the same kahit kayo saan magpunta sa mundo.....what i'm trying to say....is the concept....is the same......you have you bags....you travel by train....you switch between lines....and on to your airport destination.......siguro naman by the time natapos na ang mga infra na yan......nabago na rin ang ugali ng mga pinoy.....:lol: marunong na siguro sila mag kutsara at tinidor.....:lol:

Sana kung mabago. Malaking "KUNG".... maganda nga sana ang concept pero hindi natin alam kung kailan mababawasan ng paghihirap ang ibang filipino. Pero, as long as these things are not changed and achieved. It's hard to get it to work. For one, like i said, over population will be a problem. Meanwhile, I don't see pinoy air travelers to get in trains with all their luggages with them, they much rather be driven to the airport.

bakit naman magiging jam packed eh airport train yan... di naman yan mass transit na katulad ng MRT na kung sino sino lang pwedeng sumakay... tsaka unless ang modus operandi na ng mga magnanakaw ngayon eh bumili ng ticket at pumunta sa airport para magnakaw sa mga pasahero, sa tingin ko napaka rare na magkaroon ng petty crimes jan... siguro sa labas ng mga stations oo pero madukutan sa loob ng tren, i doubt...:2cents:

That still remains to be seen as feasible and affordable. For one thing, the trains we see in most airports goes around the property and between terminals which is just a few acres of land and not around 80 miles away from the city proper. The trains people use to go to an airport terminal in most countries with direct connection to a train transport is also used as mass transit. That plan to build a transit system stictly for airline passenger's use is needed to be carefully studied. Because one, like we have discussed before, unlike HK airport, DMIA or even NAIA if it really happen to move its international operations in DMIA, the cost of of building a fast rail system would be greater than the number of passengers going in and out of MNL/Clark airport. 50 million passenger activities in HK is far greater than the 24million passengers annually in Manila. another is that in HK the distance between the city center and the terminal itself is only 35.5 KM I believe, DMIA and the city center in Manila is way more than that. I am not saying this project is impossible because it is doable. The only difference is, will there be enough market to generate revenue that would support an ambitious project like these and be able to maintain it. At this point, there is no clarity as to how that rail system will be put in place. There is this planned North Rail project already in placed, somehow we have not yet seen it completed.it was slated to finish this year 2010 supposedly. Kaya nga nang huhula lang tayo kung anong mangyayari diyan sa project na iyan.

Sana kung mabago. Malaking "KUNG".... maganda nga sana ang concept pero hindi natin alam kung kailan mababawasan ng paghihirap ang ibang filipino. Pero, as long as these things are not changed and achieved. It's hard to get it to work. For one, like i said, over population will be a problem. Meanwhile, I don't see pinoy air travelers to get in trains with all their luggages with them, they much rather be driven to the airport.

IMHO its okey if the line is dedicated for airport passengers just like Dulles International in North Virginia na kahit mag train ka from Washington DC walang hassle at kakunting pasahero lang ang gumagamit.In the SFO Bay area passengers are riding on trains from San Francisco airport in San Bruno to downtown San Francisco though maraming stopovers pero enjoyable namang sumakay sa Bay Area Train na yon, dahil medyo okey lang ang distance at comfortafle ang mga trains. I doubt kung uubra sa Clark ito baka bubong magkaroon pa ng pasahero.

Well, the proposed airport express project suggested by ( Chit, I cant remmber his name) is supposed to be patterned in HK's airport express. They built this in time when the then new Chep Lak airport is being built in a reclaimed land. The old terminal has a capacity of over 34 million passengers yearly i believe and was projected to rapidly increase which is exactly what happened. The express train span stretch to about 35.5 KM so the passengers can arrive comfortably in the airport in 12 minutes from city center/ downtown and you can also take this same train to go to Asia-World Expo. Now, if this is going to be the same as in DMIA's airport express. They definitely need to move the whole NAIA operations to DMIA but like i said, the projected increase in travel isn't that great yet in the Philippines comparing to HK so, let's see how these goes.

Majority of the the domestic airtravels right now is through LCCs, most of our international travelers are OFW , only few leisure travelers and we lack the premium passengers. I believe HK disneyland were already in their mind back then when they built this terminal and airport express, so, definitely the HK gov is already expecting volume in revenues enough to support and sustain these. The users can buy a month's worth of express train fare, so, it goes to show that it is not strictly airline passengers get on these trains. I know their MRT is separate. So definitely, on pi_malejanna's question if I think, the crooks will buy this train fare just to carry out their crime or loots. My answer is. It's not impossible. Some snatchers would spare a few penny/pesos because you I betcha a dollar, once they steal something, the few penny train ticket is just a fraction of what they will get in return.

Manny Pangilinan knows it's a big risk... so i'm sure they'll scrutinize the proposal first... sayang lang kung kokonti lang ang gagamit diba...

as for the thieves/snatchers, syempre di naman basta basta makakapasok yan... i'm guessing you have to bring something to prove you really are going to use the airport (either a passport, a ticket, baggage, etc)... hula ko lang yan ah; and yes hindi naman impossible talaga yan eh, kung gusto talaga nilang magnakaw gagawa at gagawa ng paraan yan kahit pa di makapasok sa tren mismo...

Well just like in HK airport express, contrary to what many of the pinoys think that only airline passengers are allowed to get in, those who are picking up or greeting an airline passengers can actually use it too. How can the authorities get the proof for these? We can't under estimate the diabolic talents of all the thieves, it doesn't matter if they are pinoy or not, they operate the same way. They always have a way to get through.

Majority of the the domestic airtravels right now is through LCCs, most of our international travelers are OFW , only few leisure travelers and we lack the premium passengers. I believe HK disneyland were already in their mind back then when they built this terminal and airport express, so, definitely the HK gov is already expecting volume in revenues enough to support and sustain these. The users can buy a month's worth of express train fare, so, it goes to show that it is not strictly airline passengers get on these trains. I know their MRT is separate. So definitely, on pi_malejanna's question if I think, the crooks will buy this train fare just to carry out their crime or loots. My answer is. It's not impossible. Some snatchers would spare a few penny/pesos because you I betcha a dollar, once they steal something, the few penny train ticket is just a fraction of what they will get in return.

Yes, that's quite true nowadays. Somebody I know just got back from HKG yesterday on PR using their 747 and said that even the business executives (obviously those traveling in suits with their laptops in tow) were seated in economy. And who were seated in business class? The matrons, the old rich, and a handful of pilots who seemed to be on junket with their families. One reason why PAL is not making money at the front of the plane, although this discussion should be for another thread.

Going back to Clark, the fewer the stations and stops for the airport express, the lesser the risk to airline passengers. If the volume of airline passengers is too low that it will take longer for MPIC to get ROI on its investment, then they might want to consider segregating the train cars for airline passengers and for those who want to commute from Clark to Manila, even if they are not airline passengers (including passengers in transit for more than 8 hours who might want to visit Manila). At first, when DMIA starts accepting international flights on legacy carriers (as to when this will happen, your guess is as good as mine), you will see relatively low volumes of passengers. Let's do a little math here:

Let's say an Airport Express (AE) train has 2 cars for a total of 400 passengers. That would mean the equivalent of a 747 or 2-3 A320s. Since most legacy carriers will be flying wide bodies, depending on how often they land, you can expect an AE train for each arriving or departing widebody. However not all passengers will take the train, as there are other options like buses (for tour groups), and private vehicles (for FITs and families). So you'd probably only get 50% of the plane's total passengers onboard the AE train, probably even less at first when people are adjusting to the system. So how many trips will the AE need to make to meet the demand, and to remain profitable and get ROI in the shortest possible time?

The HKG AEL trains depart every 12 minutes from 5:50 AM to 1:15AM the following day. That roughly translates into 5 trains every hour, so for 20 hours, you have a total of a hundred or so trains. The AEL A-Stock EMU has a capacity of about 700 passengers for the 8 cars within each train. So by simple arithmetic, the AEL serves up to 7,000 passengers per day. That's the equivalent of about 20 large widebody aircraft (773s and 744s).

But we all know HKIA gets more than that number of passenger arrivals per day. So the lion's share of the HKIA isn't with the AEL, but is spread across the taxis, private cars, limousines, tour buses, public buses, etc. Which makes me conclude that the AEL is subsidized, although I haven't done research yet as to whether it is profitable already.

A similar scenario can happen with the DMIA airport express. Maybe they will have to run trains at 30 minute intervals during the start, and for sure we'll see near empty trains while the travelers are adjusting to the new system and airline schedules. Eventually, more ridership will happen, until it reaches a point where it would probably be the de facto choice of FITs, businessmen, etc. who want a faster but more expensive way of getting to DMIA to Manila compared to the traditional means (buses, cars, for hire vehicles).

There's nothing wrong with trying to emulate the Tokyo scenario. Just because we are the Philippines and not Japan doesn't mean our creative ideas end there.

yes, there's no problem with that. But there are current issues which you point out before if that is the plan. Again, MVP would use his OWN properties instead to SAVE.


If you look closely at the Buendia area, there is little room for expansion except where the public school (University of Makati) is. Across the street you have Cash and Carry and SM Hypermart, so that won't happen on the west side of the PNR tracks. On the east side, you have Cityland condominiums (at least 4 of them). I know this place very well. I lived there in the past and walked along Buendia on my way to my office.

Unfortunately even if engineering and planning have solutions, fiscal management is usually their problem. If they will demolish the old flyover at Buendia corner SSHiway and make that an intermodal station then I think this is quite possible. But then again, which will come first? Phase 3 of the Skyway (connector road with NLEX), or the airport express? It's good that MPIC may end up doing both projects so this is likely to happen.

But if the plan is to build it there, then, we don't have any other choice. I believe that place will be cramped and dark if that Buendia part is the choice to build the terminal since it's NEAREST to MAKATI CBD.



The MRT is already there. MPIC doesn't own the MRT. So that will complicate issues. And why build an airport express over the existing MRT? The MRT is not consistent, i.e. there are at grade sections, underground sections and elevated sections. Definitely this will cause chaos in the planning and construction stage so I doubt it will even be considered. Not to mention it will be an eyesore aesthetically speaking..

Well, if this design will be implemented, then airport express will be built OVER the MRT unless they opt to do that part underground as what was happened in the LRT station in Katipunan.

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The statement I made below which you affirmed in the positive is the best idea although it's sad that it hasn't been revived by the succeeding administrations after FVR

yes, i agree. it is the best idea. Fort CBD will replace Makati CBD as the premier CBD in the next 10 yrs, NAIA terminal 3 is just 15mins away plus a Monorail by that time is already built.

Naging malinaw naman sa plan ni MVP na ipupush nila talaga ang AE kung seryoso na ba talaga ang government na gawin nang MAJOR MAJOR airport ng Pilipinas ang DMIA. Kaya nagta-tie up na ang MVP at SMC for this project.

Also, For sure na hindi hahayaan ni MVP na magtayo lang ng basta basta AE. Tingnan naman natin nangyari sa NLEX di ba? World Class. So for sure, hindi macocompromise ang comfortability, safety, and security at ng pagka world class level ng mga pasahero.

For sure din, na mahal ang bayad sa fare nito sa AE. Pero kahit naman sa ibang bansa mahal din ang fare ng AE nila.

Pero kung tutuusin mo, ganon din naman kalalabasan kung mag car ka, traffic, toll gates, pagod sa byahe are some factors na pwede namang ipangtapat sa less hassle ride ng AE. so ganon din but less at risk for accidents unlike mag drive ka.

Clark is di malayong magkataong Makati in the future. Sa dami ding mga on going projects at itinatayong buildings. Mangyayaring Business Capital din ang Clark. AE is a link from Makati to another Makati (which is the Clark). Possible na maraming gumamit nito.

Travel time simula NLEX Balintawak to DMIA is lagpas an hour sa speed na 80-100kph. So kung may AE, eh di less than an hour lang ang Makati to DMIA speed of 200kph yan kasama na ang dadaang ibang stations. Not bad.

Maganda ang proyekto. And another infra na maipagmamalaki ng Pilipinas ito kapag nagawa ito.

Mapa-Makati pa yan o sa he Fort ilagay, parehas lang. dahil both makati and global may connected roads naman.

yes, i agree. it is the best idea. Fort CBD will replace Makati CBD as the premier CBD in the next 10 yrs, NAIA terminal 3 is just 15mins away plus a Monorail by that time is already built.

I want to expand on this concept a bit. Given that we have at least 4 major CBDs in Metro Manila (Makati, Ortigas, Alabang, Bonifacio Global City not counting the old CBD of the Parian in Binondo and Escolta), why aren't we seeing a CBD rising in the area where the major airports are?

I'm referring to Clark and Angeles City. While Angeles has long been a city, I don't see that many financial and service companies setting up regional headquarters there (except for the BPOs and aviation related industries) complete with their high rises. Which makes it difficult to draw tourists and international business folk except for those with links to the industries I mentioned above. If Clark does not reinvent itself as a CBD in the league of BGC and those I mentioned, I think it will be difficult to get the kind of investments related to allowing the price of their real estate to appreciate way beyond what these are right now.

For the Kapampangans, correct me if I'm wrong, but Angeles City and Olongapo primarily grew because of the presence of the US military bases until the 90s. After the bases left in 1992, the infrastructure was one of the reasons why companies found it easy to invest in these areas, despite the distance from Manila. Hence you had business like FedEx and UPS as well as logistics firms jockeying to get a slice of the action at DMIA and Subic International Airport.

Probably that's how similar it is to other places where new international airports are built, but not in all cases. Airports are supposed to be far away from population centers, but should be ACCESSIBLE enough for movement to be facilitated.

why would there be a CBD in Angeles in the first place?

tourists flying in thru Clark are mostly Koreans who want to have a good time at the red light district.

Manny Pangilinan knows it's a big risk... so i'm sure they'll scrutinize the proposal first... sayang lang kung kokonti lang ang gagamit diba...

as for the thieves/snatchers, syempre di naman basta basta makakapasok yan... i'm guessing you have to bring something to prove you really are going to use the airport (either a passport, a ticket, baggage, etc)... hula ko lang yan ah; and yes hindi naman impossible talaga yan eh, kung gusto talaga nilang magnakaw gagawa at gagawa ng paraan yan kahit pa di makapasok sa tren mismo...

ang daling mag-photoshop ng e-ticket.

why would there be a CBD in Angeles in the first place?

tourists flying in thru Clark are mostly Koreans who want to have a good time at the red light district.

Exactly. That's why I asked the question in the first place.

Going by your line of thinking, the Koreans have replaced the American G.I.s as the main tourist arrivals in a period of 20 years:nuts:

ang daling mag-photoshop ng e-ticket.

But you can't fool those system generated numbers.

^^

as if the guards check those.

For the Kapampangans, correct me if I'm wrong, but Angeles City and Olongapo primarily grew because of the presence of the US military bases until the 90s.

That's true, but technically, Angeles City regrew on its own since it was virtually wiped-out during the eruption. (Just an OT comment) :)

Exactly. That's why I asked the question in the first place.

Going by your line of thinking, the Koreans have replaced the American G.I.s as the main tourist arrivals in a period of 20 years:nuts:

Ang mga malilibog na yan!!! :lol::lol:

@NTprime, you are right about this part:

I'm referring to Clark and Angeles City. While Angeles has long been a city, I don't see that many financial and service companies setting up regional headquarters there (except for the BPOs and aviation related industries) complete with their high rises. Which makes it difficult to draw tourists and international business folk except for those with links to the industries I mentioned above. If Clark does not reinvent itself as a CBD in the league of BGC and those I mentioned, I think it will be difficult to get the kind of investments related to allowing the price of their real estate to appreciate way beyond what these are right now.


So, far it is the Koreans and the Japanese are the number one visitors in the Philippines. Most of them goes to Cebu and Boracay. Those who are most likely going to benefit with DMIA as a main gateway to the Philippines are mostly OFWs because of LCCs.


That airport express is really a very nice plan, that's the only thing. How will they generate revenues if they intended to have it strictly for airline passenger's use only. Most likely, the biggest station would be in Balintawak. I am not sure if they are also planning on extend the AE to Makati, but I believe that AE would only have only 2 stations. Which means, aside from buying tickets for AE, the all the passengers would have to hire a cab or some one has to drive them up to the nearest station. I don't think you can have too many stations in AE because that would also delay the travel time.

seems like no one is interested in seeing images of the wonderful new terminal with docked aircraft to it´s 2 aerobridges.....or are they still not utilized ? aircraft in front of the new terminal will do too (incase the aerobridges are not working yet)

any comment please ? no answers so far.

Ang mga malilibog na yan!!! :lol::lol:

@NTprime, you are right about this part:


So, far it is the Koreans and the Japanese are the number one visitors in the Philippines. Most of them goes to Cebu and Boracay. Those who are most likely going to benefit with DMIA as a main gateway to the Philippines are mostly OFWs because of LCCs.


That airport express is really a very nice plan, that's the only thing. How will they generate revenues if they intended to have it strictly for airline passenger's use only. Most likely, the biggest station would be in Balintawak. I am not sure if they are also planning on extend the AE to Makati, but I believe that AE would only have only 2 stations. Which means, aside from buying tickets for AE, the all the passengers would have to hire a cab or some one has to drive them up to the nearest station. I don't think you can have too many stations in AE because that would also delay the travel time.

if you going to friendship highway outside friendship gate..you can see the Korean Town of Angeles City.may korean hospital,hotel at mga store from korean people:)

MPIC eyes Indra Group for Clark airport study

by Mary Ann Ll. Reyes, The Philippine Star
Posted at 10/24/2010 12:25 AM | Updated as of 10/24/2010 12:33 AM


MANILA, Philippines - Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC) may likely tap the services of the Madrid-based Indra Group to conduct the feasibility study and act as technical consultant for the development of a comprehensive Clark international airport project.

MPIC chairman Manuel Pangilinan told The STAR that Indra has an arm that does airport studies, design and engineering. Indra Philippines is an affiliate of the Manila Electric Co. (Meralco), a public utility controlled by Pangilinan’s group, and is part of the global Indra family headquartered in Madrid, Spain. It has become one of the leading information technology service providers in the country and in the Asia Pacific region, and has projects in the utilities and energy, banking and insurance, and public sectors.

Pangilinan said they have received an offer from Indra to conduct the study for the Clark project. “It is likely that we will award it to them,” he noted.

MPIC is looking at a total new international airport project for the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) that will include not only a passenger terminal but also a new runway, road network and railway express that will run all the way from Clark in Pampanga to Makati.

Pangilinan earlier said they hope that the government’s private-public sector partnership (PPP) program will include not only the passenger terminal but the entire project as well.

He explained that while it may take some time before the project takes off, an airport express train service will be needed if the Clark airport seeks to attract more foreign carriers.

“The Philippines is the only country which still does not have an airport express service,” he stressed.

Pangilinan said the airport express project can be complementary to the NLEX-SLEX connector road project that will be undertaken by MPIC subsidiary Metro Pacific Tollways Corp. (MPTC). “We do not know yet whether it is the connector road or the airport express railroad that will be constructed above the PNR tracks. We are thinking of three levels. On the ground will be the Philippine National Railway (PNR) rail system, and above it are the connector road or the airport express railroad. But the two projects will both use the PNR right-of-way,” he said.

Last June, the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) accepted MPTC’s unsolicited proposal to undertake the P17-billion, 13.2-kilometer elevated connector road project that will connect the North Luzon Expressway with the South Luzon Expressway.

The connector road will run along the PNR tracks within the Manila central business district, from the end of NLEX at C3 to the beginning of Skyway 1 at Buendia, and is projected to start in 2012.

He pointed out that while the train project may compete in some way with the connector road project, he emphasized that what is needed is to bring in more people into Clark.

As envisioned, he said the airport express may have three stops: Balintawak, España and Buendia.

Pangilinan noted that one of the requirements among foreign air carriers is for a train to travel 40 minutes from Metro Manila to Clark for them to locate at DMIA. “The speed of the train must be calibrated,” he said.

In an earlier interview, MPTC president Ramoncito Fernandez said it is very natural for the Clark airport to use the NLEX right-of-way for a possible high-speed rail. “If you have an airport in the north, you need a high-speed rail that will bring passengers in and out of the airport,” he added.

Both MPIC and San Miguel Corp. (SMC) earlier announced that they are in talks on the possibility of being partners in joining a Filipino-Korean consortium led by Philco Aero which earlier made an unsolicited proposal to construct a $177 million (more than P8 billion) new terminal (Terminal 2) at the DMIA.

But when asked on the status of talks with SMC, Pangilinan revealed that they have not discussed the matter with SMC lately, even as the MPIC chairman said that they are still open to the possibility of entering into a partnership with other groups for Clark.

if you going to friendship highway outside friendship gate..you can see the Korean Town of Angeles City.may korean hospital,hotel at mga store from korean people:)

Yep, alam ko yan. I've got a friend who caters to Korean clients. She was married to a Korean man and returned to the Philippines after divorce with their kids. So, I do know alot of activities there in your area. But what we are talking about is that, the Koreans and Japanese do not all go to Clark as the main target. If you have ever been to Cebu, you would see even more number of Korean tourists because of the new resorts in the islands, then Boracay. There are also english teaching schools that caters to Koreans just like in Manila and Clark so, not a solid 100% of Korean tourists go to Clark. Otherwises, Asianna Air and Korean Air would have daily scheduled flight and more than just one flight per day seven days a week. So far, I knew that most of the flights from Korea are chartered.

marami rin dto sa Holy Ange university ang nang aaral na mga korean people..

Yep, alam ko yan. I've got a friend who caters to Korean clients. She was married to a Korean man and returned to the Philippines after divorce with their kids. So, I do know alot of activities there in your area. But what we are talking about is that, the Koreans and Japanese do not all go to Clark as the main target. If you have ever been to Cebu, you would see even more number of Korean tourists because of the new resorts in the islands, then Boracay. There are also english teaching schools that caters to Koreans just like in Manila and Clark so, not a solid 100% of Korean tourists go to Clark. Otherwises, Asianna Air and Korean Air would have daily scheduled flight and more than just one flight per day seven days a week. So far, I knew that most of the flights from Korea are chartered.

scheduled ang flights ng Asiana CRK-ICN...:)

as in regular daily flights? okay... Last time I checked it's mostly chattered flight or I guessed you maybe right, scheduled flight but not 14 flights weekly or 7 flights a week.

^^ 6 flights a week ata??:dunno:

MPIC eyes Indra Group for Clark airport study

by Mary Ann Ll. Reyes, The Philippine Star
Posted at 10/24/2010 12:25 AM | Updated as of 10/24/2010 12:33 AM


MANILA, Philippines - Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC) may likely tap the services of the Madrid-based Indra Group to conduct the feasibility study and act as technical consultant for the development of a comprehensive Clark international airport project.

MPIC chairman Manuel Pangilinan told The STAR that Indra has an arm that does airport studies, design and engineering. Indra Philippines is an affiliate of the Manila Electric Co. (Meralco), a public utility controlled by Pangilinan’s group, and is part of the global Indra family headquartered in Madrid, Spain. It has become one of the leading information technology service providers in the country and in the Asia Pacific region, and has projects in the utilities and energy, banking and insurance, and public sectors.

Pangilinan said they have received an offer from Indra to conduct the study for the Clark project. “It is likely that we will award it to them,” he noted.

MPIC is looking at a total new international airport project for the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) that will include not only a passenger terminal but also a new runway, road network and railway express that will run all the way from Clark in Pampanga to Makati.

Pangilinan earlier said they hope that the government’s private-public sector partnership (PPP) program will include not only the passenger terminal but the entire project as well.

He explained that while it may take some time before the project takes off, an airport express train service will be needed if the Clark airport seeks to attract more foreign carriers.

“The Philippines is the only country which still does not have an airport express service,” he stressed.

Pangilinan said the airport express project can be complementary to the NLEX-SLEX connector road project that will be undertaken by MPIC subsidiary Metro Pacific Tollways Corp. (MPTC). “We do not know yet whether it is the connector road or the airport express railroad that will be constructed above the PNR tracks. We are thinking of three levels. On the ground will be the Philippine National Railway (PNR) rail system, and above it are the connector road or the airport express railroad. But the two projects will both use the PNR right-of-way,” he said.

Last June, the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) accepted MPTC’s unsolicited proposal to undertake the P17-billion, 13.2-kilometer elevated connector road project that will connect the North Luzon Expressway with the South Luzon Expressway.

The connector road will run along the PNR tracks within the Manila central business district, from the end of NLEX at C3 to the beginning of Skyway 1 at Buendia, and is projected to start in 2012.

He pointed out that while the train project may compete in some way with the connector road project, he emphasized that what is needed is to bring in more people into Clark.

As envisioned, he said the airport express may have three stops: Balintawak, España and Buendia.

Pangilinan noted that one of the requirements among foreign air carriers is for a train to travel 40 minutes from Metro Manila to Clark for them to locate at DMIA. “The speed of the train must be calibrated,” he said.

In an earlier interview, MPTC president Ramoncito Fernandez said it is very natural for the Clark airport to use the NLEX right-of-way for a possible high-speed rail. “If you have an airport in the north, you need a high-speed rail that will bring passengers in and out of the airport,” he added.

Both MPIC and San Miguel Corp. (SMC) earlier announced that they are in talks on the possibility of being partners in joining a Filipino-Korean consortium led by Philco Aero which earlier made an unsolicited proposal to construct a $177 million (more than P8 billion) new terminal (Terminal 2) at the DMIA.

But when asked on the status of talks with SMC, Pangilinan revealed that they have not discussed the matter with SMC lately, even as the MPIC chairman said that they are still open to the possibility of entering into a partnership with other groups for Clark.

This will be the third or forth feasability study ? Some way to waste money and loose precious time.

This will be the third or forth feasability study ? Some way to waste money and loose precious time.

Now that you mention it, what were the recommendations of the previous feasibility studies and when were these made? I know some of them date back a generation ago...

Now that you mention it, what were the recommendations of the previous feasibility studies and when were these made? I know some of them date back a generation ago...

As far as I know a Kuwait Company was ready to invest after they had their own study at hand and the Chinese (or was it Korean?) government paid for the Masterplan (including Terminals) accomplished during the latter period of the M-Arroyo administration some 1 - 2 years ago.

Ofcorse they (Chinese or Korean) were interested in enforcing their own companies after financing proper feasibility studies.

Guys, I need your help!

I booked a flight from Clark to Cebu on January 14 via Cebu Pacific since most of the flights from Manila to Cebu are almost fully booked. I grabbed the 50% discount and the fare is lower than flights from Manila.

Is there any buses that will take me from Cubao to Clark Airport. My flight is at 2045H and is there any schedule of the buses going to DMIA? How much the current fare?

Thanks!:):):)

Instead of repeating ourselves with master plans and feasability studies over and over again (pls check the last 20 pages) we should rather concentrate on basics and reality.

Can anyone quote why the new terminal is not being utilized yet? In case it is, would be great to see some new photos.

Thanks everyone.

Guys, I need your help!

I booked a flight from Clark to Cebu on January 14 via Cebu Pacific since most of the flights from Manila to Cebu are almost fully booked. I grabbed the 50% discount and the fare is lower than flights from Manila.

Is there any buses that will take me from Cubao to Clark Airport. My flight is at 2045H and is there any schedule of the buses going to DMIA? How much the current fare?

Thanks!:):):)

not sure if the one from megamall is still operating...

i think it does. but that one is coming from pasay. so you need to be there on time the moment the bus makes a stop.

Guys, I need your help!

I booked a flight from Clark to Cebu on January 14 via Cebu Pacific since most of the flights from Manila to Cebu are almost fully booked. I grabbed the 50% discount and the fare is lower than flights from Manila.

Is there any buses that will take me from Cubao to Clark Airport. My flight is at 2045H and is there any schedule of the buses going to DMIA? How much the current fare?

Thanks!:):):)

^^ You can check Philtranco Bus Station in Cubao..I think they have scheduled trip to Clark.

Instead of repeating ourselves with master plans and feasability studies over and over again (pls check the last 20 pages) we should rather concentrate on basics and reality.

Can anyone quote why the new terminal is not being utilized yet? In case it is, would be great to see some new photos.

Thanks everyone.

TAMA..lets focus naman on the real situaion ng terminal... panay day dreaming naman kasi eh..lol:lol::lol:

Lets see you results guys, anyone flying into clark lately ? What is going on with that terminal ?

Will it wast and stay idle like T3 in Manila for a couple of years ?

Guys, I need your help!

I booked a flight from Clark to Cebu on January 14 via Cebu Pacific since most of the flights from Manila to Cebu are almost fully booked. I grabbed the 50% discount and the fare is lower than flights from Manila.

Is there any buses that will take me from Cubao to Clark Airport. My flight is at 2045H and is there any schedule of the buses going to DMIA? How much the current fare?

Thanks!:):):)

^^Don't worry about the buses. Ride any bus (5 Star or Victory Liner) going to the North passing Dau Terminal in Mabalacat, Pampanga. From Dau ride a jeepney (small jeepneys going to Clark Main Gate). There are lots of jeepneys from Clark Main gate going to Clark Airport.

^^Thanks po!

Wala po ba yung Jeep na derecho papuntang airport from Dau Terminal? Nagcheck kasi ako sa ibang site, meron po daw... Pero saan po doon?

meron yatang shuttle na pa airport lang sya from dau bus terminal to airport terminal

^^Thanks po!

Wala po ba yung Jeep na derecho papuntang airport from Dau Terminal? Nagcheck kasi ako sa ibang site, meron po daw... Pero saan po doon?

Baka meron na ngayon. Nung nag work ako sa Clark wala pa eh :). Basta once you're at Dau Terminal inquire ka lang dun. Pero kung wala ka makita sa Dau, mag jeep ka na lang from Dau going Clark main gate. Main Gate dun marami din jeepneys going Clark Airport.


P.S. Pag nag jeep ka marami ka makakasakay na magaganda :lol:

Baka meron na ngayon. Nung nag work ako sa Clark wala pa eh :). Basta once you're at Dau Terminal inquire ka lang dun. Pero kung wala ka makita sa Dau, mag jeep ka na lang from Dau going Clark main gate. Main Gate dun marami din jeepneys going Clark Airport.


P.S. Pag nag jeep ka marami ka makakasakay na magaganda :lol:

ay sinabi mo pa.. pag ako nagpupunta angeles, dami ko nakakasakay na magaganda.hehe

http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20101107-302010/S-Korean-budget-airline-starts-regular-flights-at-Clarks-DMIA

S. Korean budget airline starts regular flights at Clark’s DMIA

By Tonette Orejas
Central Luzon Desk
First Posted 23:01:00 11/07/2010

Filed Under: Philippines - Regions, Tourism, Air Transport

CLARK FREEPORT, Philippines—South Korean budget airline Jin Air has started its Incheon-Clark-Incheon flights at the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) here recently, potentially increasing tourism in Central and Northern Luzon.

Jin Air’s Boeing 737-800 made its maiden flight into DMIA at 12:40 a.m. two weeks ago. The 180 passengers were mostly Korean tourists, said Victor Jose Luciano, president of Clark International Airport Corp., who welcomed Jin Air pilots and crew members.

The budget carrier will ply the route five times weekly, he said.

Luciano said Jin Air, a subsidiary of Korean Air, is the sixth international airline to operate in the 2,367-hectare DMIA.

South Korea’s Asiana Airlines began flights here in October 2003.

Jin Air also flies to Guam, Osaka and Bangkok.

Luciano said Korean tourists, estimated at around 20,000 in Clark Freeport in Pampanga and Subic Bay Freeport in Zambales, have “contributed to the growth and development of Clark, which in effect generated businesses and employment for the people in the area.”

Daily flights through DMIA are done by Asiana Airlines to Incheon, Tiger Airways
to Singapore and Air Asia to Kuala Lumpur and Kota Kinabalu.

By way of DMIA, Cebu Pacific Air flies to Hong Kong, Singapore, Macau, Bangkok and Cebu. The Spirit of Manila Airlines flies to Taipei.

S. Korean budget airline starts regular flights at Clark’s DMIA

By Tonette Orejas
Central Luzon Desk
First Posted 23:01:00 11/07/2010

Filed Under: Philippines - Regions, Tourism, Air Transport

CLARK FREEPORT, Philippines—South Korean budget airline Jin Air has started its Incheon-Clark-Incheon flights at the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) here recently, potentially increasing tourism in Central and Northern Luzon.

Jin Air’s Boeing 737-800 made its maiden flight into DMIA at 12:40 a.m. two weeks ago. The 180 passengers were mostly Korean tourists, said Victor Jose Luciano, president of Clark International Airport Corp., who welcomed Jin Air pilots and crew members.



Would be great to see the JIN 737-800 afront the new terminal. Any images available please ?

Do we have any renderings of the proposed terminals?:?:?:?

Do we have any renderings of the proposed terminals?:?:?:?

GMA officially opened a new annex at the exisitng terminal with 2 installed aerobridges shortly before her retreat from office. We have seen only few images at that time, but no new photos since the inauguration.

This annex is beautiful, quite classy in international standards. But I never saw any airline docked to the aerobridges ever yet.

That was what I was asking for, incase anyone has a change to shoot while boarding or disembarking from the apron side of this new annex.

Now that we also have a new airline freuquenting DMIA, we would see quite an innovative image-change at this airport.

Any suggestions ?

P1-B MRO hangar to rise in Clark Aviation ComplexNovember 11, 2010, 7:38pm

CLARK FREEPORT, Pampanga, Philippines – Leading aircraft maintenance, repair and overhaul (MRO) company SIA Engineering Company (SIAEC) will be setting up its second hangar costing close to P1 billion to provide MRO services for the Boeing 747 and 777 and generate 300 direct jobs in the 2,367-hectare Clark Civil Aviation Complex.


Clark International Airport Corporation (CIAC) President and CEO Victor Jose I. Luciano announced that the construction of the second hangar will start mid-November 2010.


“SIAEC will be building a bigger hangar to accommodate wide-bodied aircraft such as the Boeing 747 and 777,” Luciano said.


In November 2008, SIAEC, together with its joint venture partner Cebu Pacific Air, began construction of the first hangar for the Airbus 320 and 319 series aircraft in the Clark Civil Aviation Complex that paved the way for the further development of the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA).


The first hangar, costing an estimated P800 million, started operations in July 2009 which accommodates Airbus A-320 series aircrafts.


“Now we will see the development of the second, much larger hangar in Clark. This will generate no less than 300 direct jobs and about 200 indirect jobs for our people in Central and Northern Luzon,” Luciano stressed.


He said SIAEC will spend close to P1 billion for the construction of the second hangar and will commence operation by end 2012.


SIA Engineering Company based in Singapore is a leading aircraft MRO company providing total maintenance solutions to wide-bodied aircraft of the world. SIA Engineering Company, together with its 24 joint ventures and subsidiaries across nine countries, formed the SIAEC Group.


The SIAEC Group provides extensive MRO of aircraft to more than 85 international airlines worldwide. With certifications from more than 20 airworthiness authorities, SIAEC’s six hangars and 22 in-house workshops in Singapore provide complete MRO services in airframe, component, engine, aircraft conversions, and modifications to major airlines from four continents.


SIEAC also provides support services at the Changi International Airport in Singapore as well as line maintenance support services to countries such as Australia, United States, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Vietnam, and the Philippines.

^^^^^^:cheers:

nice! wide body planes will now be able to use the airport..:okay::D
di nga lang passenger flights...

nice! wide body planes will now be able to use the airport..:okay::D
di nga lang passenger flights...

My guess: the larger hanger is needed for the growing 5J Airbus fleet. No airline so far is interested in maintanance at Clark. South East Asia is full of maintanance facilities; a very large and successful one for large aircraft just around the corner such as 747 and 777 being in MNL = LHT Philippines.

^^ that seems plausible... by the time the hangar is complete (2012 daw) e baka may wide body ac na ang 5J...

^^ that seems plausible... by the time the hangar is complete (2012 daw) e baka may wide body ac na ang 5J...

Who knows, maybe PAL will be bankrupt by then and 5J will follow Asia X concept with longhauls......

Who knows, maybe PAL will be bankrupt by then and 5J will follow Asia X concept with longhauls......

That is possible but I don't think the government will allow the Philippine Airlines name just to die like that. If ever PAL goes belly up under Lucio Tan, as a result of closure due to a protracted strike, then the government can temporarily take over and then sell it to interested parties.

But I have a feeling Lucio Tan will keep his stakes in Airphilexpress. He's seen how the LCC model is better suited to his style of management while bringing in profits.

If ever 5J would follow the lead of AirAsia X, it might be after 2012... they will still have to place orders for widebodied long haul aircraft unless they decide to lease or buy second hand. But of course long haul traffic must also increase. I don't see them flying yet to the mainland USA but GUM is very likely once Category 1 is restored. And I am expecting to see them flying to Darwin when they get additional A320s.

S. Korean budget airline starts regular flights at Clark’s DMIA

By Tonette Orejas
Central Luzon Desk
First Posted 23:01:00 11/07/2010

Filed Under: Philippines - Regions, Tourism, Air Transport

CLARK FREEPORT, Philippines—South Korean budget airline Jin Air has started its Incheon-Clark-Incheon flights at the Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) here recently, potentially increasing tourism in Central and Northern Luzon.

Jin Air’s Boeing 737-800 made its maiden flight into DMIA at 12:40 a.m. two weeks ago. The 180 passengers were mostly Korean tourists, said Victor Jose Luciano, president of Clark International Airport Corp., who welcomed Jin Air pilots and crew members.



Would be great to see the JIN 737-800 afront the new terminal. Any images available please ?

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/_data/photo/2010/10/27215237.jpg

Photo from Joongang Daily

That is possible but I don't think the government will allow the Philippine Airlines name just to die like that. If ever PAL goes belly up under Lucio Tan, as a result of closure due to a protracted strike, then the government can temporarily take over and then sell it to interested parties.

But I have a feeling Lucio Tan will keep his stakes in Airphilexpress. He's seen how the LCC model is better suited to his style of management while bringing in profits.

I hope Manny Pangilinan's MPIC decides to go into the Airline industry, and once it does, I hope they buy PAL from Lucio Tan. The nation's flag carrier deserves a better management!

BTW, Airphil's handling of its Singapore flights is a mess! I won't go into details here but, I strongly discourage people from flying internationally via Airphil.

Another poorly-managed company, brought to you by Lucio Tan!

I hope Manny Pangilinan's MPIC decides to go into the Airline industry, and once it does, I hope they buy PAL from Lucio Tan. The nation's flag carrier deserves a better management!

BTW, Airphil's handling of its Singapore flights is a mess! I won't go into details here but, I strongly discourage people from flying internationally via Airphil.

Another poorly-managed company, brought to you by Lucio Tan!

I'm with you on the first sentence. Whether MPIC of Manny Pangilinan or SMC of Ramon Ang, they would be the best local players to take over PAL completely (not just a minority share).

Well, give them a few more times to get it right. Remember, this is their first foray internationally. Not all APX staff are seconded or came from PAL. Many of them are not even airline people (like their head of marketing, who came from Globe and ABS-CBN). At least with fresh and new minds they can come up with creative ideas...

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/_data/photo/2010/10/27215237.jpg

Photo from Joongang Daily

sana naman gamitin na ung airbridge, kahit pa budget airline sila...:D

:cheers:

http://joongangdaily.joins.com/_data/photo/2010/10/27215237.jpg

Photo from Joongang Daily

Why thank you tyronne, at last someone is interested to picking up images on this forum again. Anyone with another shot, possibly with the new terminal in the background ?

I hope Manny Pangilinan's MPIC decides to go into the Airline industry, and once it does, I hope they buy PAL from Lucio Tan. The nation's flag carrier deserves a better management!

BTW, Airphil's handling of its Singapore flights is a mess! I won't go into details here but, I strongly discourage people from flying internationally via Airphil.

Another poorly-managed company, brought to you by Lucio Tan!

People here will appreciate your act if you will say what really happen (handling SIN flights of Airphil Express).

MEANS IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED SOONER!!

http://manilatimes.net/index.php/business-columns/31227-metro-pacific-san-miguel-take-first-crack-at-ppp

Metro Pacific, San Miguel take first crack at PPP

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BY DARWIN G. AMOJELAR SENIOR REPORTER

TWO of the Philippines’ top conglomerates have first dibs at two infrastructure projects originally lined up for the government’s public-private partnership (PPP) initiative. Kenneth Tanate, director of the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) Infrastructure Staff, said the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) removed the P21-billion North Luzon Expressway (NLEX)-South Luzon Expressway (SLEX) Link would no longer be included in the PPP lineup for 2011.

The NLEX-SLEX Link is an unsolicited proposal submitted by Metro Pacific Tollways Corp., which is a unit of Pangilinan-led Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC).

The project would involve constructing a 13.2-kilometer elevated road through the Philippine National Railway tracks from the end of NLEX at C3 to the beginning of Skyway 1 at Buendia.

Besides the NLEX-SLEX Link, the planned City Terminal for Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) likewise was removed from the PPP list.

A consortium led by Philco Aero is in negotiations with state-run Clark International Airport Corp. (CIAC) for the construction of the new DMIA terminal.

San Miguel Corp. (SMC) earlier said it was in talks with Philco Aero for the development of the airport terminal.

Besides MPIC and SMC, other parties have announced they were interested in the PPP projects.

South Korea’s military pension fund was one of them, according to the Board of Investments (BOI).

Separately, Trade Undersecretary and BOI Managing Head Cristino Panlilio told reporters that he urged the Military Mutual Aid Association during a visit to South Korea last week to infuse a part of its $5-billion fund into the PPP projects that the Aquino administration would roll out.

Tanate said the government has “13 bankable projects” ready for bidding next year.

The NEDA official said the P70-billion Metro Rail Transit (MRT)-Light Rail Transit (LRT) Expansion Project was broken into three projects.

The first project involves the operation and maintenance of LRT Line 1 (LRT 1) North Extension Project, while the second is the construction of the LRT 1 South Extension Project.

The third project is the Common Ticketing System Project for LRT 1, LRT 2 and MRT Line 3.

Tanate said the government decided to break the P70 billion MRT/LRT Expansion Project to prevent an investor from getting too big a project, and instead distributing it to more bidders.

Other projects to be rolled out next year are the P11.3-billion MRT Line 2 Extension Project, the P7.54 billion New Bohol Airport, the P4.36 billion Puerto Princesa Airport, the P10.5 billion CALA Expressway- Manila-side Section, and the P3.08 billion Daraga International Airport.

Also included in the PPP list are the Privatization of the Operation and Maintenance of the Laguindingan Airport, and the Supply of Treated Bulk Water for Metro Manila, the costs for both of which have yet to be determined.

For 2012 and beyond, the government identified 73 projects under its PPP portfolio.

These include airports, roads, rails, water supply, irrigation, school buildings, health facilities, solid waste management services, and other social support projects.

Of these projects, 28 require P263.5 billion in investments.

In the power sector alone, 43 projects will be lined up for PPP with an indicative amount of P348.5 billion

[QUOTE=magmario;67472339]MEANS IT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED SOONER!!

http://manilatimes.net/index.php/business-columns/31227-metro-pacific-san-miguel-take-first-crack-at-ppp

Metro Pacific, San Miguel take first crack at PPP

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Tuesday, 02 November 2010 00:00
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BY DARWIN G. AMOJELAR SENIOR REPORTER

TWO of the Philippines’ top conglomerates have first dibs at two infrastructure projects originally lined up for the government’s public-private partnership (PPP) initiative. Kenneth Tanate, director of the National Economic and Development Authority (NEDA) Infrastructure Staff, said the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) removed the P21-billion North Luzon Expressway (NLEX)-South Luzon Expressway (SLEX) Link would no longer be included in the PPP lineup for 2011.

The NLEX-SLEX Link is an unsolicited proposal submitted by Metro Pacific Tollways Corp., which is a unit of Pangilinan-led Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC).

The project would involve constructing a 13.2-kilometer elevated road through the Philippine National Railway tracks from the end of NLEX at C3 to the beginning of Skyway 1 at Buendia.

Besides the NLEX-SLEX Link, the planned City Terminal for Diosdado Macapagal International Airport (DMIA) likewise was removed from the PPP list.
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Before we talk about another Terminal here that isn´t even built yet, what ever happened to T 1 ? Has anyone ever seen an image of the newly finished annex GMA built in utilization ? No one seems to have an answer to this question, although I have asked fellow forumers for some time now.

http://www.dmia.ph/ciacgallery_htm_files/119.jpg
http://www.dmia.ph/ciacgallery_htm_files/120.jpg
http://www.dmia.ph/ciacgallery_htm_files/121.jpg
http://www.dmia.ph/ciacgallery_htm_files/122.jpg
http://www.dmia.ph/ciacgallery_htm_files/126.jpg
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OMG! Ang ganda pala ng airport na yan. :cheers: