http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/sterock85/bridgepg5.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wear_Bridge

I guess now we have our own forum, we can now add some more threads related to specific developments.

Anyone else still feeling very nervous that we won't get the bridge we desire?

I like that design - very impressive

Where exactly is it going to be located? (would be great if someone can show it on google images)

Also how is the funding going to work for this?

I like that design - very impressive

Where exactly is it going to be located? (would be great if someone can show it on google images)

Also how is the funding going to work for this?

It's been funded by the government already, it was given along with the Metro money, then they said the Metro must be semi privitised.
£100m for the bridge I think has been given.

I think I heard it was going to be apart of the A19, or just off the A19.

A very good bridge, but I think £100m is very expensive, and Sunderland could do a whole lot more with that money, and still have a good looking bridge for about £25m-£30m.

wow ... Just loving that bridge ..

I think originally it was to join Wessington Way with European way on the south side of the wear.

that will be a spectacular sight :nuts:

A very good bridge, but I think £100m is very expensive, and Sunderland could do a whole lot more with that money, and still have a good looking bridge for about £25m-£30m.

Well there was the option to build a supposedly 'standard' wear crossing, but they were quoting 100m.

Very elegant bridge, but yeah, £100m is a lot for a bridge by an architect who isn't Calatrava

Amazing design! if the bridge gets built you could easily see the bridge becoming an icon for your area. Like the Humber Bridge is for the Humber area and the hopes for our new bridge going over the river hull.

I like that design - very impressive

Where exactly is it going to be located? (would be great if someone can show it on google images)

Also how is the funding going to work for this?


The centre of the bridge will be here:

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=54.916%2C-1.426&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

(green arrow not red one).

Funding is £100m pledged by the government (rough cost of a basic, no-frills bridge and work on approach roads, with two new junctions and feeder roads on the Pallion side and a reconfiguring of the roundabout at the Castletown end), with £30m having to be found from local taxpayers, local funds (airport sale windfall), One North East, EU etc.

I love the design and really hope it'll get built as it'll do wonders for the image of the city.

Now we have to hope for a pedestrian bridge between the SOL and Vaux site.

...P.S. I pray they hurry up and get cracking with it; we in the north east understand what icons and focal points bridges can become, even new ones. There have been hintings that the Tories may reverse the funding commitment from central government, although local Conservatives have been generally supportive (as I suppose they have had to be, with upwards of 80% of residents polled backing the more expensive design).

I love the design and really hope it'll get built as it'll do wonders for the image of the city.

Now we have to hope for a pedestrian bridge between the SOL and Vaux site.

Absolutely right. In fact it's fundamental for Vaux to work and for the city centre and Sheepfolds to grow over the next twenty years. We could even make do with a cheapy for that site, as long as it looks reasonably good. An Infinity Bridge (Stockton) would do... Match days would also be significantly more pleasant, and dare I say a new crossing there would breathe extra vibrancy into Deptford, paving the way for an Ouseburn-on-Wear.

Absolutely right. In fact it's fundamental for Vaux to work and for the city centre and Sheepfolds to grow over the next twenty years. We could even make do with a cheapy for that site, as long as it looks reasonably good. An Infinity Bridge (Stockton) would do... Match days would also be significantly more pleasant, and dare I say a new crossing there would breathe extra vibrancy into Deptford, paving the way for an Ouseburn-on-Wear.

This is something I have often thought myself, with the Ropery, TJ Doyles etc down that way, there is no reason that Deptford couldn't become Sunderland's answer to Ouseburn with a little bit of help.

Something like the infinity bridge would be perfect. I also really like that Wakefield bridge from that channel 4 programme, although it would be unsuitable for a high level bridge like this, you can have a lot more fun and be a lot more inventive with pedestrian bridges than with road bridges.

The footbridge to the vaux site needs the land to be developed first though. There's no way we're going to get a great new bridge linking one brownfield site to another, and I doubt building the bridge first would be a suficient catalyst for things to move forward on the vaux site.

Just as an interesting side note, I wonder what the new wear bridge will do for house prices for properties overlooking it?

This is something I have often thought myself, with the Ropery, TJ Doyles etc down that way, there is no reason that Deptford couldn't become Sunderland's answer to Ouseburn with a little bit of help.

Something like the infinity bridge would be perfect. I also really like that Wakefield bridge from that channel 4 programme, although it would be unsuitable for a high level bridge like this, you can have a lot more fun and be a lot more inventive with pedestrian bridges than with road bridges.


Spot on there mate I don't know why they don't get a river boat organised between the pubs in Deptford and either further up stream.

This bridge is going to be brilliant, but a footbridge from Deptford over to Stadium Village is vital imo.

This bridge is going to be brilliant, but a footbridge from Deptford over to Stadium Village is vital imo.

Exactly right there marra the foot bridge should have bee sorted years ago.

Exactly right there marra the foot bridge should have bee sorted years ago.

Can you imagine the suicide count during the 15 point season though? :ohno:

Just imagine Newcastle without the Redheugh Bridge, the positioning of this new bridge is critical to ensuring the future development along the length of the Wear within the city limits.

It would certainly help South Tynesiders get to Sunderland without the problems of the Wear Bridge and the A19. :banana:

The new Bridge could be a casualty of the Governments cuts of around £36 billion expected between 2011 and 2014, ----because part of those cuts will be from the Transport Dept, --hope I'm totally wrong, --but it's not looking good, ----whats peoples thoughts.

The new Bridge could be a casualty of the Governments cuts of around £36 billion expected between 2011 and 2014, ----because part of those cuts will be from the Transport Dept, --hope I'm totally wrong, --but it's not looking good, ----whats peoples thoughts.

I was thinking the same mate. could it also be affected by oneNorth East having to bail out Teesside after corus left as well do you think?

Just read this piece in today's Echo, ----it's good news, and there could be a possible 2012 start date, --and I hope my fears for this project in my post above will prove to be unfounded, --



£133m iconic bridge another step closer Published Date: 11 December 2009
Finalised plans for an iconic bridge being lined up for Sunderland will be submitted next week.
Sunderland City Council's planning application will bring the long-awaited river crossing a step nearer.

If approved, it would be the tallest bridge in the country, standing at up to 190 metres.

It will form the centrepiece of the Sunderland StADVERTISEMENTrategic Transport Corridor (SSTC), crossing the Wear from Castletown on the north side to Pallion.

The full application, made up of 15 reports and more than 400 pages of plans, drawings and assessments, is expected to be put before planning chiefs next week.

After being considered by the council's planning and environment service, the application will be put to the planning and highways committee in the new year.

Council leader Coun Paul Wat-son said: "In September, we agreed that we should move to the next stages of the landmark bridge project, and by publishing these notices, we have now moved into this planning phase.

"As with any major development project, the landmark bridge and its approach roads are being put through the due process and scrutiny of the planning system."

Work on the bridge could begin as soon as 2012.

The cable-stay crossing, designed by Black Cats supporter Stephen Spence and engineering firm Techniker, features two masts soaring 180 metres from the river.

It would be the highest point in Sunderland and the tallest bridge in England.

The bridge and its approach roads will cost £133million. The Government has agreed to provide up to £98million for the project, subject to various procedures.

The rest of the cash will come from the council and regional development agency One North East.

I was thinking the same mate. could it also be affected by oneNorth East having to bail out Teesside after corus left as well do you think?

Yeah, I saw the local news last night and was thinking the same, ---they said that One North East had to take about £30 million which was already designated for other projects in the Region, ---anyway, I just posted some better news above, --still got everything crossed though.:lol:

Fingers crossed it is saved the worst of the cuts. It is such a vital project for the future development of the city.

Absolutely right. In fact it's fundamental for Vaux to work and for the city centre and Sheepfolds to grow over the next twenty years. We could even make do with a cheapy for that site, as long as it looks reasonably good. An Infinity Bridge (Stockton) would do... Match days would also be significantly more pleasant, and dare I say a new crossing there would breathe extra vibrancy into Deptford, paving the way for an Ouseburn-on-Wear.

Deptford is one of the North East's best kept secrets and if the proposed footbridge gets built it will go from being a hidden gem to Sunderland's version of Ouseburn overnight.:) No doubt other hostelries will open in the area to cash in on the match day traffic which will funnel through there.

[QUOTE=Blackcatfan;48340099]Deptford is one of the North East's best kept secrets and if the proposed footbridge gets built it will go from being a hidden gem to Sunderland's version of Ouseburn overnight.:) No doubt other hostelries will open in the area to cash in on the match day traffic which will funnel through there.[/QUOTE


It's a few years since I was last down Deptford, --but I thought it was a canny area then, ---so I agree with you.

The Government has agreed to provide up to £98million for the project, subject to various procedures

Various procedures? This doesn't sound so positive to me at all.

Various procedures? This doesn't sound so positive to me at all.



I think that when the Government agreed to fund the £98 million --they wanted assurances from the Council / and ARC that they would find the rest, --the Government have agreed the money, ---lets hope they don't take it back through their proposed cuts in 2011, ---everything crossed for this one.

so apparently then, im the only one who is either aware of bothered that this has come in for planning permission....

if you sunderland people want this, you have to support this.... get writting those letters!!!!!!

09/04661/LAP

Erection of new highway bridge, with two columns of maximum height of 190m and 140m respectively, and associated highway infrastructure, connecting Wessington Way in Castletown and European Way in Pallion, with associated landscaping and engineering works, together with a temporary bridge to facilitate bridge construction; Stopping-Up of highways, change of use of land and inclusion of additional land as new highway and highway infrastructure at and in proximity to Hylton Riverside, Hylton Park Road , Timber Beach Road, Wessington Way and European Way and Crown Works and Groves/Coles Site, Sunderland.

Land At, Wessington Way,Timber Beach Road, Hylton Park Road, European Way And Groves Coles Site,Sunderland.

Cheers ^^^

Will do!

btw, at 190m tall, it makes the new wear crossing...

the 19th tallest bridge in the World

the 5th tallest in Europe, and

the TALLEST in the UK

so apparently then, im the only one who is either aware of bothered that this has come in for planning permission....

if you sunderland people want this, you have to support this.... get writting those letters!!!!!!

09/04661/LAP

Erection of new highway bridge, with two columns of maximum height of 190m and 140m respectively, and associated highway infrastructure, connecting Wessington Way in Castletown and European Way in Pallion, with associated landscaping and engineering works, together with a temporary bridge to facilitate bridge construction; Stopping-Up of highways, change of use of land and inclusion of additional land as new highway and highway infrastructure at and in proximity to Hylton Riverside, Hylton Park Road , Timber Beach Road, Wessington Way and European Way and Crown Works and Groves/Coles Site, Sunderland.

Land At, Wessington Way,Timber Beach Road, Hylton Park Road, European Way And Groves Coles Site,Sunderland.


I knew there was a planning application lodged in December, ---but I'm surprised the Highways Committee will discuss it so soon, -----thanks for the post mate, cheers.

btw, at 190m tall, it makes the new wear crossing...

the 19th tallest bridge in the World

the 5th tallest in Europe, and

the TALLEST in the UK

So exciting! :cheers:

Just hope it all goes according to plan.

btw, at 190m tall, it makes the new wear crossing...

the 19th tallest bridge in the World

the 5th tallest in Europe, and

the TALLEST in the UK


It will be fantastic if this happens.

Does anybody know how soon a decision will be made by the Council regarding the planning application, cheers.

it will be clearly marked on the council website

Does anybody know how soon a decision will be made by the Council regarding the planning application, cheers.

We should find out sometime in the Spring.

We should find out sometime in the Spring.

Application expiry date is 29/10/2010.

The details that have been submitted are very detailed, I actually think this is going ahead. :banana:

http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=dates&keyVal=KUE32ABB00P00

Application expiry date is 29/10/2010.

The details that have been submitted are very detailed, I actually think this is going ahead. :banana:

http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=dates&keyVal=KUE32ABB00P00

Agree mate, I can't see this not going ahead.

David Walker said in a council committee meeting that the final approval for the £98m DFT funding for the bridge will be given once all CPOs had gone through. CPOs can only go through when planning permission has been given. However, all other necessarily approval stages for this funding have passed and its literally a case of making sure SCC keep up their end of the bargain.

Agree mate, I can't see this not going ahead.

David Walker said in a council committee meeting that the final approval for the £98m DFT funding for the bridge will be given once all CPOs had gone through. CPOs can only go through when planning permission has been given. However, all other necessarily approval stages for this funding have passed and its literally a case of making sure SCC keep up their end of the bargain.


Yes I agree, ---and I hope that Sunderland City Council will give Approval sometime in the Spring, :cheers:

well then i assume you all have written to the council offering yor suport for ths scheme???

well then i assume you all have written to the council offering yor suport for ths scheme???


I registered my support last year mate, ----I don't know how many more have, ----although the polls they did last year showed a massive support for it.

this is a totaly different exercise.... your thoughts then will have zero influence on whether this scheme is approved planning permission of not.... commenting to the planning application will!!!

if not one supports it, you cant complain if its refused planning permisison

Wow. It looks like something from high fantasy. When did Sunderland get an influx of Elven immigrants?

this is a totaly different exercise.... your thoughts then will have zero influence on whether this scheme is approved planning permission of not.... commenting to the planning application will!!!

if not one supports it, you cant complain if its refused planning permisison


Ok mate, ---then we should all get cracking and show our support, cheers.

EXACTLY!!!!!

^^^^


A letter of support will be going in very shortly, ---anyone else?:cheers:

You can comment on the application by clicking this link (http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do;jsessionid=DE5F3BB17C81C934FD1FBF1E3755BBD2?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=KUE32ABB00P00) you need to register though.

You can comment on the application by clicking this link (http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do;jsessionid=DE5F3BB17C81C934FD1FBF1E3755BBD2?activeTab=makeComment&keyVal=KUE32ABB00P00) you need to register though.

Cheers mate.:cheers:

Having read through the application material, one particularly interesting thing is that the proposed new road from the new bridge to the City Centre will run from Woodbine Terrace, around the back of Pallion Yard, underneath the Queen Alexandra Bridge, along Deptford Terrace and then bear back round to the Trimdon Street Roundabout.

I think this road could be a real catalyst for development on the river bank areas, particularly at Deptford.

Having read through the application material, one particularly interesting thing is that the proposed new road from the new bridge to the City Centre will run from Woodbine Terrace, around the back of Pallion Yard, underneath the Queen Alexandra Bridge, along Deptford Terrace and then bear back round to the Trimdon Street Roundabout.

I think this road could be a real catalyst for development on the river bank areas, particularly at Deptford.


If this is the Route, ---then yes, --there will be huge opportunities to Develop those areas you mentioned, and in particular the Deptford area, cheers.

Having read through the application material, one particularly interesting thing is that the proposed new road from the new bridge to the City Centre will run from Woodbine Terrace, around the back of Pallion Yard, underneath the Queen Alexandra Bridge, along Deptford Terrace and then bear back round to the Trimdon Street Roundabout.

I think this road could be a real catalyst for development on the river bank areas, particularly at Deptford.


I think it will be great if all this happens, and they will also bring many new jobs which has to be a good thing.

^^As you mentioned the route running towards the queen Alexandra bridge, I'm sure I read about a firm wanting to build a large office block to the left of the Q A bridge on the South side, but this was at least a year ago, anybody know about this.cheers.

^^As you mentioned the route running towards the queen Alexandra bridge, I'm sure I read about a firm wanting to build a large office block to the left of the Q A bridge on the South side, but this was at least a year ago, anybody know about this.cheers.



I seem to remember something to do with Pallion Engineering wanting to build offices, ---don't know what happened about this plan though.

Bit more news on the next step for the Bridge plans, ----this from the Echo, --



Plans for iconic Wear Bridge complete
Published Date: 02 February 2010
Plans for the new Wear bridge are now complete.
The dramatic design dreamed up by architect Stephen Spence and engineers Techniker is being put before planners for the first time.

It marks an important step for the landmark structure, which it is hoped will become an international symbol for Sunderland, pulling in investment and visitors as well as improving transport links into the city.

Councillors on both the Sunderland South and Sunderland North development control committees will discuss the plans this evening.

They are recommended to refer the application to Sunderland City Council's planning and highways committee, which will make the final decision on whether to grant permission for the project.

The planning application for the multimillion-pound project includes the approach roads needed to link the bridge up with the existing transport network.

It will connect Wessington Way in Castletown and European Way in Pallion.

What crap from the Echo, it's merely the council meeting tonight. The plans have been complete for months. :bash:

the joys of local journalism....

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm322/sterock85/bridgepg5.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wear_Bridge

I guess now we have our own forum, we can now add some more threads related to specific developments.

I don't think people realise how tall this bridge will be, if you compare it (at 180m) to the Dartford Bridge (at 137m)

http://www.bardaglea.org.uk/bridges/bridge-types/images/cable-dartford-bridge.jpg

And the humber bridge at 155m

http://www.freefoto.com/images/11/35/11_35_2---The-Humber-Bridge_web.jpg

http://www.humberbridge.co.uk/resources/humber_bridge_shot1.jpg

Then dear god, it'll be visible for miles around!!

Yeah it's going to be some size, -----I like those photos, --especially the last one of the Humber and the clouds.----maybe we will see some similar photos of ours in a few years,:cheers:

On a visit to Sunderland the other Day, ---Ken Clarke the Shadow Business Secretary --brushed off ---that the Tories would axe funding for the new Wear Bridge, ---he said --"Have Labour Politicians uncovered a secret Conservative plan to cut funding for the iconic Bridge?---I very much doubt it", -----does this statement allay anyones fears or concerns about the Bridge funding?, ----personally I don't trust any Politicians now.

hmmm interesting

On a visit to Sunderland the other Day, ---Ken Clarke the Shadow Business Secretary --brushed off ---that the Tories would axe funding for the new Wear Bridge, ---he said --"Have Labour Politicians uncovered a secret Conservative plan to cut funding for the iconic Bridge?---I very much doubt it", -----does this statement allay anyones fears or concerns about the Bridge funding?, ----personally I don't trust any Politicians now.



I tend to agree, I dont have any faith in politicians, and that goes for all of them, but we will have to wait and see if they will keep their word.

So what exactly is the situation with this?

I have no idea how developments like this work!

I jave assumed that all was given the go ahead for it to begin in a couple of years, but is there still a chance we may not see the iconic bridge.

So what exactly is the situation with this?

I have no idea how developments like this work!

I jave assumed that all was given the go ahead for it to begin in a couple of years, but is there still a chance we may not see the iconic bridge.

it has been submitted for planning permission and has yet been granted planning permission. there is no garentee the council will approve the planning application, it all depends on what they at the top decide.

Also, planning permission does not mean anything will ever get built. there is a lot of risk this bridge will never see the light of day in this economic climate

The planning application for the bridge has been referred to the Planning and Highways Committee by both the South and North Committees (as it straddles both North and South Sunderland) and is due for consideration on the 29 April 2010.

According to the Planning Performance Agreement, a decision will be made no later than 31 May 2010 by the planning authority.

In terms of the funding, the DfT has already accepted the 'business case' for the bridge and therefore it is highly unlikely that they can just withdraw funding. Final approval of funding will depend on the applicant (Sunderland City Council) successfully gaining all 'permissions' to proceed, i.e. completing CPOs on land needed for the construction of the bridge and gaining approval from the Government Office or Secretary of State if needed.

The planning application for the bridge has been referred to the Planning and Highways Committee by both the South and North Committees (as it straddles both North and South Sunderland) and is due for consideration on the 29 April 2010.

According to the Planning Performance Agreement, a decision will be made no later than 31 May 2010 by the planning authority.

In terms of the funding, the DfT has already accepted the 'business case' for the bridge and therefore it is highly unlikely that they can just withdraw funding. Final approval of funding will depend on the applicant (Sunderland City Council) successfully gaining all 'permissions' to proceed, i.e. completing CPOs on land needed for the construction of the bridge and gaining approval from the Government Office or Secretary of State if needed.


So mate, ---would you say that even if the Tories come into power, ---they wont withdraw the funding, ----because I'm wary of them, ---they keep saying how much they will cut back on spending?

Especially considering they've nothing to lose up north

Especially considering they've nothing to lose up north


Aye, --you could be right Tyr, --but lets hope if they do get in, --that they would honour the allocated funding, ----although I do have my doubts.

So mate, ---would you say that even if the Tories come into power, ---they wont withdraw the funding, ----because I'm wary of them, ---they keep saying how much they will cut back on spending?

I couldn't say for certain mate, I just don't know.

But my feeling is that this one is fairly safe. Sunderland City Council haven't secured the funding yet for certain, but that is because the funding is conditional on them keeping up their end of the bargain with CPOs, etc.

It seems to me like the most important stage has passed; submitting the business case. This is the government admitting that the project is worthy of the funding and that it is a worthwhile project, and this decision by the DfT has contractual obligations attached it, which it seems to me like any government could not just go back on.

If I were a betting man, I would bet on this bridge happening.:cheers:

What's the chance that the tories will scrap sunderland arc and one north east though? If the latter goes then there could be a problem.

What's the chance that the tories will scrap sunderland arc and one north east though? If the latter goes then there could be a problem.


You have a point Talisker, ---if the Tories get rid of the likes of One North East, ---then there will be a short fall of monies for the Bridge, ---as they are to fund about £10 million towards it.

What's the chance that the tories will scrap sunderland arc and one north east though? If the latter goes then there could be a problem.

I don't see the abolishment of One North East having an effect on the funding for the bridge, to be honest.

I personally think that the ONE funding would still come, but possibly be granted to the Council, or another local funding vehicle, prior to the abolishment of ONE.

What the Tories have said is that they would devolve funding powers from regional 'quangos' to a 'Local Partnership' level. I don't know for certain, but to me this would see organisations such as Sunderland arc becoming more like the old Urban Development Corporations and having possibly more direct funding powers, as at the moment they have very little.

Sunderland arc come in for a lot of stick, and rightly so in a lot of senses. However, its important to remember that they have very little funding powers and their job is to coerce their partners (ONE, HCA, T&W Partnership, City Council) into spending their money. Unless these partners do anything, Sunderland arc are pretty powerless to make things happen.

I don't see the abolishment of One North East having an effect on the funding for the bridge, to be honest.

I personally think that the ONE funding would still come, but possibly be granted to the Council, or another local funding vehicle, prior to the abolishment of ONE.

What the Tories have said is that they would devolve funding powers from regional 'quangos' to a 'Local Partnership' level. I don't know for certain, but to me this would see organisations such as Sunderland arc becoming more like the old Urban Development Corporations and having possibly more direct funding powers, as at the moment they have very little.

Sunderland arc come in for a lot of stick, and rightly so in a lot of senses. However, its important to remember that they have very little funding powers and their job is to coerce their partners (ONE, HCA, T&W Partnership, City Council) into spending their money. Unless these partners do anything, Sunderland arc are pretty powerless to make things happen.



I hope your right regarding the funding mate, ---because it's just one of those unknown things --when /if a new Party takes power.

I was talking with a couple of mates about the new Bridge and if a new Government would put the block on it, and one of the lads said the money is in place now, does anybody know if this is the case, and if so, would a new Government be able to renege and take the money back?

I was talking with a couple of mates about the new Bridge and if a new Government would put the block on it, and one of the lads said the money is in place now, does anybody know if this is the case, and if so, would a new Government be able to renege and take the money back?

Effectively the money is in place, yes.

In essence the Department for Transport, by accepting and approving the 'business case' for the Sunderland Strategic Transport Corridor project, have signed a contract which effectively says that if Sunderland City Council keep up all of their obligations at each stage of the funding approval process (such as planning permissions, land acquisitions, CPO, other funding commitments from ONE, etc), they will give them the £98m for the bridge.

I find it very difficult to see how they could simply back out of this process and not give them the funding.

Therefore the risk of this bridge not happening lies with the City Council and One North East. The City Council are doing everything right as far as I can see, and it seems like they have enough external experts on board who know what they are doing. I suspect that the One North East funding has already passed to the City Council to 'get it out the door' before the end of the financial year, to pay for design, planning application process, CPO, land acquisition, etc.

I was talking with a couple of mates about the new Bridge and if a new Government would put the block on it, and one of the lads said the money is in place now, does anybody know if this is the case, and if so, would a new Government be able to renege and take the money back?

Yes the money has already been allocated for it, nothing that any party can do after the election can take that money away as it's effectivly already been spent.

^^^^

I'm pleased at what your all saying regarding the Government's Allocated monies for the new Bridge, -----lets hope whoever gains power, --that they honour the monies which they have already Allocated.

New bridge is waste of cash

Published Date:
16 March 2010
By Ross Robertson
THE new Wear bridge is a waste of money and the £130million would be better spent on green travel projects.
That is the view of sustainable transport charity Sustrans, which has filed an official objection to the proposed landmark bridge over the Wear.

Sunderland City Council says the crossing will cut congestion, improve transport links and give the ciADVERTISEMENT

ty an internationally-renowned icon, attracting tourism and investment.

But Graham Johnson, North East manager for Sustrans, said the bridge will only add to the region's transport, climate and health issues.
"We must question the benefit of the proposed scheme. It seems another case of more roads for more cars," he said.

"While it may initially relieve some of the traffic problems within Sunderland city centre, we believe it will ultimately lead to more traffic problems and further congestion.

"This, in turn, will lead to further environmental damage and health issues."

Mr Johnson said the transport sector caused more than a quarter of the UK's carbon emissions and there were also local factors to consider, such as air quality and noise pollution.

He added: "In addition, the reliance upon motor vehicles has been linked to the increasing burden of the nation's health problems such as obesity, heart disease, diabetes, stroke, cancers and osteoporosis.

"The scheme does nothing to encourage people to use sustainable transport or to travel in active ways which will benefit their health and thereby reduce the burden on the NHS."

Mr Johnson pointed the council to the Department for Transport (DfT) "Delivering a Sustainable Transport System" report, which he said included tackling climate change and promoting health as central objectives.

He claimed bridge proposals do not meet the criteria set out in the DfT report.

He said: "If it is correct that this scheme is in the region of £130million, then we believe that there are much better opportunities within the region for such a magnitude of investment."

He said these would fall in line with the region's commitment to the DfT report, which is under review by the Association of North East Councils and the regional development agency (One North East).

He said: "Such schemes would have a significant and substantial impact and provide a long-term solution to the region's transport problems."

Mr Johnson was responding to the planning application for the bridge as the proposals pass through council procedures. Sustrans is often asked for its views on developments.

His letter will be considered by planners and councillors in determining whether or not the project should be granted planning permission. The final decision will be made in the coming months.

How does he propose all these 'sustainable transport schemes' cross the river then?

:ohno:

^^^^


I agree mate, ------this mans thinking doesn't make sense, ----he talks of there being to much congestion on our roads and Bridges, ----yet if the new Bridge doesn't get built, ----then how much more congestion will there be in Sunderland ?, ----he doesn't want more roads and Bridges built, --yet this Country is producing thousands of cars every year, --what happens if there are no more roads and Bridges built ??----also, --I'm not sure, --but I can't remember Mr Johston objecting to the new Tyne Tunnel ?:ohno:

What a load of shit.

I'm all for having a minimal impact on the environment but people who spout climate change bollocks and carbon emissions as excuses are idiots.

We need good transport links, and that includes roads.

What a load of shit.

I'm all for having a minimal impact on the environment but people who spout climate change bollocks and carbon emissions as excuses are idiots.

We need good transport links, and that includes roads.

Totally agree mate, ----and I really hope this Bridge gets Built.

How does he propose all these 'sustainable transport schemes' cross the river then?

:ohno:

Exactly. Im fairly sure that the new bridge includes cycle paths/pedestrian paths/etc as well.

Part of the purpose of the new bridge is to encourage the regeneration of several brownfield sites along the 'River Wear Corridor', which is surely a good thing in environmental terms. Its foolish to believe that even in the next 200 years we can completely diminish an urban City Centre location's dependency on motor vehicles.

Surely building this bridge will cut congestion around the City Centre by encouraging the development of key employment sites in locations on the edge of the City Centre. Also, im sure that new bus links will be created by the bridge to link key employment sites.

Im all for less roads and more public/green transport but im more for regenerating the City of Sunderland and providing a better future for its people in terms of employment and creating a great place to live and work.

Exactly. Im fairly sure that the new bridge includes cycle paths/pedestrian paths/etc as well.
Part of the purpose of the new bridge is to encourage the regeneration of several brownfield sites along the 'River Wear Corridor', which is surely a good thing in environmental terms. Its foolish to believe that even in the next 200 years we can completely diminish an urban City Centre location's dependency on motor vehicles.

Surely building this bridge will cut congestion around the City Centre by encouraging the development of key employment sites in locations on the edge of the City Centre. Also, im sure that new bus links will be created by the bridge to link key employment sites.

Im all for less roads and more public/green transport but im more for regenerating the City of Sunderland and providing a better future for its people in terms of employment and creating a great place to live and work.


Your correct regarding footpaths and cycleway, ---and the Bridge will be a 4 lane, ----I think that objecter, --is trying to justify his job.

Note, for inclusion on the

New Wear Bridge | Wessington Way, Sunderland | 190m / 140m | Submitted

thread


The revamp of our forum is now nearly complete, once the mods respond to this last post on the Naming & Moving threads and posts, thread.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=54337293&postcount=42


FOR THE FUTURE RE ‘PROJECTS’ INFORMATION:

Can I suggest that all information about our current projects is provided on the appropriate individual Project Thread (where there is one) rather than on the old Full Summary of Projects thread?

We currently have 12 of these project threads, listed on the new Development Summary, and ‘linked’ from that thread.

01. New Wear Bridge | Wessington Way, Sunderland | 190m / 140m | Submitted
02. SAFC Training Facility | South Tyneside | 1fl | Submitted
03. Sunderland Crown Court I Sunderland, Farrington Row | ?fl | Proposed
04. Porterfield Plaza | Sunderland | 5fl | U/C
05. Vaux Site | Sunderland | Various | Proposed
06. Sunderland Software Centre | Sunniside, Tavistock Place | ?fl | Proposed
07. Stadium Village | Sunderland | Various | Proposed
08. New Student Village | Sunderland | ?fl | Proposed
09. Durham Gate | Thinford, Co Durham | Various | Proposed
10. Spirit of Sunderland | Sunderland | 33fl | 328ft | Proposed
11. Central Area Multi Storey Car Park | Sunderland | ?fl | Demolition
12. Durham University new Admin Building | Durham City | ?fl | Proposed

Also, I have been advised by ‘horokeio’ that there could be (at least) another six project threads to be set up, here . .
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=53899249&postcount=38

Can this be confirmed and the threads set up by someone? Also, are there any other specific projects, not yet mentioned, that could also be set up as threads? Please let me know, on the 'Naming and moving threads and posts' thread.

I can then add any new project threads to the ‘Development Summary’ thread, as suggested.

A bit more news regarding the Bridge, --this from the Echo, ---



Iconic bridge a step closer



An artist's impression of the bridge for the River Wear.

Published Date:
22 April 2010
By By ROSS ROBERTSON
PLANS for Wearside's new landmark bridge are set to get the green light.
Supporters of the design dreamed up by architect Stephen Spence, say the structure over the Wear will cut congestion, attract investment and give Sunderland an internationally-renowned landmark.


The bridge would be up to 190m tall at its highest point and cost more than £130million to build.

Proposals for a new crossing have been discussed for years and Spence's competition-winning design has sat on the drawing board since 2003.

But councillors will meet to consider final planning permission for the project next week, and are recommended to approve.

In a report before the committee, planners say: "The elegant structure will be visible over a wide area and will be a genuinely-striking gateway into central Sunderland.

"It is likely to be an attraction in itself as the tallest bridge in the country, providing the city with an impressive landmark."

The bridge will run between Pallion and Castletown as part of the second phase of the Sunderland Strategic Transport Corridor super route into the city, linking into its key development sites.

Planning officers at Sunderland City Council say the bridge and road plans are in-line with national, regional and city planning policy to improve the strategic road network and ease congestion in the city.

In their report, they said: "The scheme has the potential to act as a catalyst for further improvement to the quality of the area by improving access for the future redevelopment of industrial sites along the southern banks of the River Wear."

There are no objections to the application from consultees such as the Environment Agency, Highways Agency or Natural England.

However, sustainable transport charity Sustrans did submit an objection earlier in the year stating that the bridge was a waste of money which would be better spent on more environmentally-friendly modes of travel.
Planners say there are no major concerns about disturbance during construction.

Once planning permission is granted the council will need to secure funding and deal with other issues before work can begin.

Subject to all necessary permission, work on the bridge and its approach roads could start in 2012.

The Planning and Highways Committee will consider the bridge application on Thursday, April 29, at 4.30pm in Committee Room 2 at Sunderland Civic Centre. The meeting is open to the public.


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What EXCELLENT news from the Echo!

Here is the pic from that article . . .

http://editorial.jpress.co.uk/web/Upload/SEJJ//TH1_224201044newestbridgeApril22.jpg

Pity it's a bit small!!

Good news, sounds very positive!

Can't wait for the day when this bridge is there for real :)

Good news, sounds very positive!

Can't wait for the day when this bridge is there for real :)



Yeah, ---and lets hope whoever forms the next Government, --- will honour the funding which has been allocated for the Bridge, ---it would be a real setback if this funding was stopped.

However, sustainable transport charity Sustrans did submit an objection earlier in the year stating that the bridge was a waste of money which would be better spent on more environmentally-friendly modes of travel.



Twats.

Good news, sounds very positive!

Can't wait for the day when this bridge is there for real :)

This is Sunderland, you sure you can wait that long? :lol::lol::lol:

Twats.


:lol: ---Succinctly put mate.:lol:

This is Sunderland, you sure you can wait that long? :lol::lol::lol:

Well im not going to set up camp on the banks of the Wear waiting....:lol:

Well im not going to set up camp on the banks of the Wear waiting....:lol:


The only worry I have, --is if the money is stopped through cutbacks, ---it will be a real setback if the funding is stopped.

Any particular party more likely to do that? ^^^

Any particular party more likely to do that? ^^^


The Tories a planning big cuts across the board, ---so if I had to choose, ---they would be the ones most likely.

Planners urged to back £130m Wear bridge
Apr 27 2010 by Tony Henderson, The Journal

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nejournal/apr2009/0/6/sunderland-bridge-wear-bridge-856037338.jpg

A DECISION will be made this week on whether the North East is to have the country’s tallest bridge.

Sunderland city councillors are being advised on Thursday to agree to the building of the dramatic bridge over the Wear between Pallion and Castletown.

The bridge consists of two independent curving steel towers. The smaller would be no higher than 140metres and the taller up to 190 metres, both of which would need to be fitted with aviation warning lights.

Planners say that the “elegant” structure will be visible over a wide area and would be “a genuinely striking “ landmark gateway to Sunderland city centre.

“It is likely to be an attraction in itself as the tallest bridge in the country, providing the city with an impressive landmark. The overall design and appearance of the bridge is proposed as a symbol for Sunderland’s regeneration aspirations and provides an architectural feature with which the community can identify,” says a 71-page report to councillors.


REST OF ARTICLE HERE - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2010/04/27/planners-urged-to-back-130m-wear-bridge-61634-26323365/

Planners urged to back £130m Wear bridge
Apr 27 2010 by Tony Henderson, The Journal

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nejournal/apr2009/0/6/sunderland-bridge-wear-bridge-856037338.jpg

A DECISION will be made this week on whether the North East is to have the country’s tallest bridge.

Sunderland city councillors are being advised on Thursday to agree to the building of the dramatic bridge over the Wear between Pallion and Castletown.

The bridge consists of two independent curving steel towers. The smaller would be no higher than 140metres and the taller up to 190 metres, both of which would need to be fitted with aviation warning lights.

Planners say that the “elegant” structure will be visible over a wide area and would be “a genuinely striking “ landmark gateway to Sunderland city centre.

“It is likely to be an attraction in itself as the tallest bridge in the country, providing the city with an impressive landmark. The overall design and appearance of the bridge is proposed as a symbol for Sunderland’s regeneration aspirations and provides an architectural feature with which the community can identify,” says a 71-page report to councillors.


REST OF ARTICLE HERE - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2010/04/27/planners-urged-to-back-130m-wear-bridge-61634-26323365/

Good news. However, I feel that headline is misleading given that the planning officers have already backed the plans and are urging the planning committee of councillors to approve the plans.

Perhaps the headline should read:

'Planners urge to back £130m Wear bridge'

^^^^


Yeah, ---would expect the the planning committee to approve this, ----btw, does anyone know if there has been any recent surveyancing done?

The Tories a planning big cuts across the board, ---so if I had to choose, ---they would be the ones most likely.

Cheers. :)

Cheers. :)


I hope I'm wrong mate, ---but they do intend to save billions through cuts.

Sunderland City Councillors approved the plans for the new Bridge at a meeting yesterday, ------and Construction work could begin in --2012, --and the Bridge expected to be complete in --2015, ----but before work can begin, --the Council must secure ownership of the land, ---and then get final approval from the Department for Transport.

^^^^



This from the Echo, ---


Go ahead for £130m landmark Wear bridge



Sign InRegisterVIEW OF A BRIDGE: Civil Engineers President Paul Jowitt (third left) looking at a model of the proposed new bridge, with Ed Wallage, Sunderland City Council structures and new works manager; Greg Lutton, chairman Institute of Civil Engineers North East and David Abdy, project director Sunderland City Council.

Published Date: 30 April 2010
Wearside's new £130million landmark bridge has been given official approval.
Councillors have now granted planning permission for the gigantic structure.

It will span the Wear between Castletown and Pallion, improving transport links and – it is hoped – giving Sunderland a world-renowned symbol.

The bridge team will now move on to the next stages of the project, acquiring the land and securing final funding from the Department for Transport.

Janet Johnson, deputy chief executive of Sunderland City Council, said: "This is a project that will bring significant benefits to the city by easing congestion, opening up new areas for regeneration and more jobs, and providing a new landmark for Sunderland and the North East."

The bridge project is expected to go out to tender in 2011 and work could begin as early as 2012 with the bridge and link roads open by 2015.

It will form a key part of the Sunderland Strategic Transport Corridor – a super route linking up development sites such as Vaux – which experts say is fundamental to Wearside's regeneration.

David Walker, chief executive of regeneration agency Sunderland Arc, said: "I'm delighted that after seven years being involved in the project that we've reached this critical stage."

Mr Walker said the landmark bridge would have a significant impact on developers interest in regeneration sites and the pace of development.
With its curving steel towers, 190m at the highest point, the bridge will be the highest in England.

The final plans, approved last night, were developed from the competition-winning design by architect Stephen Spence and design engineers Techniker.

Matthew Wells, a director at Techniker, said: "This is a very positive planning decision for Sunderland. The bridge's construction methods were outlined as part of the application and we look forward to seeing this landmark crossing of the River Wear."

The design also got the thumbs up from Paul Jowitt, president of the Institution of Civil Engineers who viewed the plans on a visit to Sunderland earlier in the day.

"Not only will it fulfil its purpose of getting people across the river, but people will look at it and feel better for it," he said.
Mr Jowitt was at Sunderland Civic Centre as part of a tour of civil engineering transport projects, including the new Tyne Tunnel.

Councillors heard how a number of businesses may have to be bought up and demolished to make way for the bridge, including a dental practice, but planners said it was not yet clear how many would be affected.
There were also objections to the bridge plans.

Springs Leisure, which is trying to sell its vacant site at Sunderland Enterprise Park in North Hylton, said plans for the new bridge would make the land less attractive to buyers.




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Very good news, but until i see building work begin i will not get to excited...

Very good news, but until i see building work begin i will not get to excited...


Yeah I agree, --I'm still wary of what might happen regarding cut backs from the next Government.

Yeah I agree, --I'm still wary of what might happen regarding cut backs from the next Government.

Same here, the conservatives wont think twice about removing funding for a major scheme for labour controlled council. :ohno:

Same here, the conservatives wont think twice about removing funding for a major scheme for labour controlled council. :ohno:


I quite agree. I think anybody who regards this bridge as a done deal is being extremely naive. With a Tory victory the likelihood is that it will be cancelled.

It now has a website.

http://www.newsunderlandbridge.com/



http://www.newsunderlandbridge.com/images-gallery/large/1.jpg
http://www.newsunderlandbridge.com/images-gallery/large/2.jpg
http://www.newsunderlandbridge.com/images-gallery/large/4.jpg
http://www.newsunderlandbridge.com/images-gallery/large/5.jpg

Love the second picture....please let this happen :D

^^^^

Good find mate, ---will be great if it happens like, --everything crossed for this.:cheers:

No doubt the Tories will cancel this project now. :ohno::bash:

^^^^

yup .. the Tories promised huge spending cuts to get the economy moving. Fully expect this to be mothballed as the Department of Transport just wouldn't release £130M worth of funding for a 'landmark' structure :ohno:

Well it looks like the lib lab deal is on now Brown has resigned. Good news for this project I guess.

Well it looks like the lib lab deal is on now Brown has resigned. Good news for this project I guess.

Or maybe not!

Bye bye iconic bridge...........

Soon we'll have a three lane motorway all the way from London to the north east..................... well that was the plan, can't see it happening now that the Tories are in, they'll let the works finish around Catterick and that'll be it.

And this bridge will be the first to go.

The north east will get nothing from this point on. :ohno:

http://www.newsunderlandbridge.com/

http://www.newsunderlandbridge.com/

Yep, --have seen this site, ---will be great if this becomes reality, ---but I won't be holding my breath --cheers.

Department Of Transport have today been told to make £680m of savings under the new government spending cuts just announced.

All non-essential 'low priority' projects will now be pulled !

shame .. would've been great to see this built :ohno:

especially as there is now a model of this the the reception of the civic centre!

^^^^


Aye, --but has been anticipated for some time, ---although I don't think we will find out for definite until the Autumn ---but it's not looking good, --will be a shame if it is stopped though.

How about they cancel the works at Whitemare pool roundabout, that'll saved them a few million and not disrupt my journey to work. :bash:

How about they cancel the works at Whitemare pool roundabout, that'll saved them a few million and not disrupt my journey to work. :bash:


You sound frustrated marra, :lol:---although I know it can be vexing, ---how long before the Roadworks are completed ?

^^^^


Aye, --but has been anticipated for some time, ---although I don't think we will find out for definite until the Autumn ---but it's not looking good, --will be a shame if it is stopped though.

I have to admit, im very worried about it. The scale of funding required to be cut by the DfT compared to the cost of the bridge is worrying.

On the other hand, I still think the DfT will find it difficult to back out of the process. Fingers crossed, eh.

I have to admit, im very worried about it. The scale of funding required to be cut by the DfT compared to the cost of the bridge is worrying.

On the other hand, I still think the DfT will find it difficult to back out of the process. Fingers crossed, eh.


I believe the actual amount of funding from the dft is £98 million, ---so I share your concern, ---the only thing that could might be in the Bridge's favour, --is, -- that the new Bridge and Road network are promoted along with job creation along both sides of the River, but I think particular the South side, around the Pallion / Deptford /Vaux and Docks areas, ----this could create thousands of jobs, ---and would hopefully sway the balance, -----so it's everything crossed for this one.---but I won't hold my breath.

^^ I'm like everybody else, and hoping that the bridge goes ahead, but in all honesty I don't think it will happen now, not when you hear what this Government is going to do, hope I'm wrong.

^^^^


Yeah, --we all hope the Bridge will get built, ---and I think we will find out for definite in the Autumn, ---but when you hear of the intended cuts, --then it doesn't look good.

It's got another award now.

A SOUTH Tyneside architect has scooped a top award for a spectacular bridge.

Stephen Spence, formerly of South Shields, designed the 180m Infinity Bridge, which spans the Tees in Stockton.

His London-based company Spence Associates picked up an award at the Royal Institute of British Architects (RIBA) North East awards 2010 ceremony.

All projects now go forward to a national awards and be entered for the RIBA Stirling prize, the winners of which will be announced live on Channel 4 in October.

Mr Spence is also behind the design plans for England's tallest bridge to be built across the Wear.

The cable-stayed structure, which could cost up to £133m, would be 614ft high and more than 1,100ft long.

Building work could begin in 2012, with the bridge expected to open by 2015.

http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/Architect39s-award-for-bridge-design.6326666.jp

^^^^

Really hope this still happens, -----but many people I'Ve spoken with --reckon it won't happen, ---just got to hope for the best like.

I took these shots on the North side of the Wear where I think the new Bridge will span, ------really hoping it will still get built, ---





http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/BRITISH100/densphone139.jpg




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http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t282/BRITISH100/densphone140.jpg

Thanks for the photos, Denm.

Bridget Phillipson MP (Houghton and Sunderland South) has certainly been proactive in seeking answers to the questions her constituents will want answering. Two weeks running she has asked David Cameron at PMQs about the £20m grant for Nissan (which he has eventually confirmed today), and she has also laid down several written questions, including this one to the transport minister:


Bridget Phillipson (Houghton and Sunderland South, Labour):

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what plans his Department has for funding a new bridge over the Wear in Sunderland.


Norman Baker (Parliamentary Under Secretary of State (Regional and Local Transport), Transport; Lewes, Liberal Democrat):

The Department for Transport will consider the funding for local authority major transport schemes as part of the Government's spending review to be carried out by the autumn. Until then the Department can give no assurances on funding for any local authority scheme that is not yet in construction.



and this one to the education minister about the BSF programme:

Bridget Phillipson (Houghton and Sunderland South, Labour):

To ask the Secretary of State for Education

(1) what his plans are for future funding of the Building Schools for the Future programme in (a) Houghton and Sunderland South constituency and (b) the North East;

(2) how much funding he plans to allocate to the Building Schools for the Future project at Hetton School.


Nick Gibb (Minister of State (Schools), Education; Bognor Regis and Littlehampton, Conservative:

The Department is reviewing the Building Schools for the Future programme to ensure that when we build schools for the future, we do so in a more cost-effective and efficient fashion.



Just a shame both answers have been so unhelpful - all part of the 'new politics' apparently.

^^^^

Yeah I think we will find out about the cuts in the Autumn ----I hope we are not disappointed, ---we shall see.

Game Over!
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/transport/article7147897.ece
:(

Gutted ^^^^^ :ohno:

Game Over!
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/transport/article7147897.ece
:(

Not game over, yet.

The article states that all projects not yet contractually committed would be suspended pending review. It isn't really telling us anything that we didn't already know.

We knew that the DfT would have to reconsider its funding priorities, given that its budget has been drastically cut. All this article is telling us is that no further spending will be committed until they know what they want to spend their money on.

Our project, as the article states, has passed the first stage of the funding process. They won't cancel everything, so we have as good, if not better, chance as anybody.

Don't panic!

Not game over, yet.

The article states that all projects not yet contractually committed would be suspended pending review. It isn't really telling us anything that we didn't already know.

We knew that the DfT would have to reconsider its funding priorities, given that its budget has been drastically cut. All this article is telling us is that no further spending will be committed until they know what they want to spend their money on.

Our project, as the article states, has passed the first stage of the funding process. They won't cancel everything, so we have as good, if not better, chance as anybody.

Don't panic!

I agree, ---we can only hope this will be one of the projects which will not face the axe, --so everything crossed for this like.

Just a bit more news, ---this from the Echo, --




Iconic Wear bridge plans on ice

Published Date: 11 June 2010
Plans for the new Wear bridge have been put on ice as the Government continues to review all public spending projects.
Ministers have suspended all cash for transport projects – including more than £90million earmarked for the landmark Wear crossing – as the Tory-Lib Dem coalition seeks to rein in public spending.

The high-profile structure, aimed at cutting congestion and giving Sunderland a world-renowned symbol, won planning permission last month and the project team were preparing to acquire the required land.

Sunderland City Council leader Paul Watson said the authority would now not move on to the next stage of the bridge project until the cash was secure. A decision is expected in October.

"We have been told that is that expenditure incurred from now until then on preparing for programmes or projects such as the Sunderland Strategic Transport Corridor (which includes the new bridge) will be at the risk of the local authority," he said. "It would be silly of us to pursue that when we can't be assured we're going to get the funding."

Coun Watson said the Compulsory Purchase Order process to acquire land needed for the bridge would also prove problematic until funding was secured.

He said if the council could not make a deal with landowners, it would need to go to court and must prove to the judge that the land was indeed needed and would be used for the project proposed.

"It would be very difficult to say in the current economic climate that this would actually happen."

The council leader said the bridge plans would remain "on the boil" and he will discuss with the chief executive what internal work the bridge team can continue with while the authority awaits the funding decisions.

He added that he would continue to fight for the bridge and make the case for the project.

"It is one of the most important things for the city. It was going to be a symbol of the city, something we can all look at and feel proud of," he said.

"It's not going to go away – the issue of getting a new bridge hasn't gone away for 50 years."

The new bridge, designed by competition-winning architect Stephen Spence and design engineers Techniker, will cost about £130million. It would be the largest bridge in the country.

Under the Labour Government, the Department for Transport agreed more than £90million for the project, which the council said was enough to build a basic bridge. The council allocated additional funds and regional development agency One North East also pledged cash.

It would appear it's not been included in the first round of cuts.

Fingers crossed. :cheers:

In Full: The projects axed or suspended by government
Page last updated at 16:37 GMT, Thursday, 17 June 2010 17:37 UK
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Here is the list of funding for projects agreed to by the Labour government since January 2010 which have been axed, or suspended by the Conservative/Liberal Democrat coalition government

The full list of projects agreed since 1 Jan now being cancelled:

Stonehenge Visitor Centre: £25m
Plans aimed to improve the setting of the prehistoric monument, with a new centre located further from the stones, the nearby A344 closed and a new transport system to drop visitors off.

Local Authority Leader Boards £16m
Created in the last weeks of the Labour government to replace regional assemblies, made up of English council leaders with powers over areas like transport and housing. The government says their powers will be given to councils.

Sheffield Forgemasters International Limited: £80m
The Labour government had extended the engineering firm an £80m loan for a 15,000 tonne press to supply specialist components for the nuclear industry. Company's nuclear parts loan axed

Rollout of the Future Jobs Fund: £290m
A fund to support job creation for young people who were long-term unemployed which aimed to create 150,000 jobs. Councils, charities and social enterprises were encouraged to bid for a share of the money.

Six month offer recruitment subsidies: £30m
For people on Jobseekers Allowance for six months - it included new short-term training places, recruitment subsidies for firms employing them and more support for people to start up a business.

Extension of Young Person's Guarantee to 2011/12: £450m
The scheme aimed to provide work or training places, mainly for 18 to 24-year-olds who had been out of work for six months - some linked to the Future Jobs Fund.

Two year Jobseeker's Guarantee: £515m
Aimed at giving jobseekers a guaranteed offer of a job, internship, volunteering placement or work experience after two years of being out of work.

Active Challenge Routes - Walk England: £2m
Department of Health project to map walking routes and promote them on an interactive website so people can record their fitness.

County Sports Partnerships: £6m
Aimed at helping people access and benefit from sport - 49 across England. They also make sure local facilities are being put to best use.

North Tees and Hartlepool hospital: £450m
New hospital at Wynyard Park, on Teesside to replace existing hospitals in Hartlepool and Stockton-on-Tees.

Local Authority Business Growth Initiative: £50m
Aimed at encouraging councils to help local businesses grow by rewarding them with a grant that was not ringfenced.

Outukumpu: £13m
Project to buy and develop a Sheffield site into an industrial park.

List of projects suspended:
A14 road: £1.1bn
There had been plans to widen the road between Cambridge and Huntingdon to six lanes.

Libraries Modernisation Programme: £12m
Plan to reverse decline in library usage, to offer flexible opening hours, free internet access and entitlement to membership from birth. Film centre loses government cash

Sheffield Retail Quarter: £12m
Retail and leisure development in central Sheffield consisting of about 100 new shops and 200 apartments.

Kent Thameside Strategic Transport Programme: £23m
Improving road junctions and bus transit schemes on the A2 to accompany major residential housing and commercial office development.

University Enterprise Capital Fund: £25m
Funding to help university departments translate ideas into commercial ventures.

Newton Scholarships: £25m
Initiative to identify, assist and retain 100 of the best research students at UK universities.

Health Research Support Initiative: £73m
Service to help medical researchers understand trends in patient data to support clinical trials and other studies.

Leeds Holt Park Well-being Centre: £50m
Plan for a "community hub" in Leeds including a new swimming pool and learner pool, meeting areas, a community café, activity rooms and consulting rooms.

Birmingham Magistrates Court: £94m
Proposal to build a state-of-the-art new court building in the centre of Birmingham.

Successor Deterrent Extension to Concept Phase Long Lead Items: £66m
Purchase of hardware for design phase of successor to Trident nuclear missile system - to be reviewed as part of the broader Trident "value for money" review.

Search and Rescue Helicopters: £4.6bn
Private Finance Initiative (PFI) funded deal for a new generation of search and rescue helicopters to be jointly operated by the Ministry of Defence and the Ministry of Transport. They will be reviewed "as a matter of urgency".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10341863.stm

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Yeah good news so far, ----but come the Autumn, --and it might be a different story, --but like you said marra, --fingers crossed.

Not looking good, ---but was anticipated, --this from the Sunderland Echo, ---



Bridge in doubt in 'Austerity Sunderland'


Published Date: 22 July 2010
A serious question mark hangs over the future of the new Wear bridge today after council chiefs met to discuss Government cuts.
Sunderland City Council must swallow more than £9million-worth of funding cuts as the coalition Government slashes public spending.

Cash has been lost for projects from housing to careers advice, and play parks to encouraging business.

The city must wait until October to find out if Government cash earmarked for the new Wear bridge will continue, but says the £133million scheme is now in major doubt.

The authority is continuing to prepare for the project and large costs have already been incurred which were expected to be reimbursed from the Department of Transport, but up to £3.6million may now have to be found from council coffers.

The cost could be even greater if money from regional development agency One North East is pulled.





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^^ Yes, I think this is what everybody has been expecting, it's going to be a shame thogh if it 's not built.

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Aye, --I think most people are more or less resigned to the Bridge not being built, ---I really hope I'm wrong. --and yes, it will be a shame:ohno:

I hate the Tories

I hate the Tories

Don't think your alone marra.:lol:

I saw no mention of this project in the list of cuts produced at the weekend by One North East. Either this means it's protected or it means it's already assumed dead. I guess the CSR on 20th October is when we find out for certain.

I saw no mention of this project in the list of cuts produced at the weekend by One North East. Either this means it's protected or it means it's already assumed dead. I guess the CSR on 20th October is when we find out for certain.

Annoyingly it will be some little cretin in London that will decide during his lunch hour over this, "Why does Sunderland need a new bridge, it's already got a few?". Bang, just like that. Gone.

I'd love to see a comprehensive list of all the building projects that have not been cut, not just those that have. I'm sure that in comparison Sunderland would be one of the worst affected. :soapbox:

I saw no mention of this project in the list of cuts produced at the weekend by One North East. Either this means it's protected or it means it's already assumed dead. I guess the CSR on 20th October is when we find out for certain.

I was thinking the same although I was taking the slightly more positive angle of, "It hasn't been cut so maybe they know the Government aren;t cutting their funding." But it's probably just wishful thinking!

I saw no mention of this project in the list of cuts produced at the weekend by One North East. Either this means it's protected or it means it's already assumed dead. I guess the CSR on 20th October is when we find out for certain.

This is a bit of speculation on my part, but here's how I see it:

As far as I know, the funding from ONE was already contractually committed, as it was dependent on Sunderland City Council stumping up their share of the 'extra' cost of the iconic bridge.

I actually think this can work in the project's favour. The project contract has secured a level of extra funding from the Council, some of which it has already spent. It is possible that the Council could spend the extra funding for the 'iconic' add-on, without the £98m from the DfT, in developing the bridge design and all necessary land purchases in the hope that the funding will become available in the future.

In any case, ONE will have had to 'ring-fence' this amount in case of an eventuality where the DfT gives the go ahead for the bridge, as it is contracted to do so. Should ONE cut this funding, and the bridge go ahead, they would be in breach of this contract with the Council, who would then have a legal case against the government.

Gut feeling: the bridge will go ahead (but don't quote me on that!!)

This is a bit of speculation on my part, but here's how I see it:

As far as I know, the funding from ONE was already contractually committed, as it was dependent on Sunderland City Council stumping up their share of the 'extra' cost of the iconic bridge.

I actually think this can work in the project's favour. The project contract has secured a level of extra funding from the Council, some of which it has already spent. It is possible that the Council could spend the extra funding for the 'iconic' add-on, without the £98m from the DfT, in developing the bridge design and all necessary land purchases in the hope that the funding will become available in the future.

In any case, ONE will have had to 'ring-fence' this amount in case of an eventuality where the DfT gives the go ahead for the bridge, as it is contracted to do so. Should ONE cut this funding, and the bridge go ahead, they would be in breach of this contract with the Council, who would then have a legal case against the government.

Gut feeling: the bridge will go ahead (but don't quote me on that!!)

Strange that the design looks like a pair of crossed fingers.

the DfT and the Council were funding this bridge as far as im aware, and so it isnt on the books of ONE and so would not be included within the list of their spending cuts!

the DfT and the Council were funding this bridge as far as im aware, and so it isnt on the books of ONE and so would not be included within the list of their spending cuts!

Quote from the project website:

Subject to the project meeting certain conditions, funding of £98m will be provided by the Department for Transport. £3m will come from ONE North East and £32m from Sunderland City Council. The City Council's contribution will be reduced by £8.9m should an approved additional contribution from ONE be confirmed in May 2010.

As far as im aware, the additional funding from ONE was approved. As said previously, if the DfT gives the go ahead for the project, ONE and the Council's funding is already contractually committed and therefore it is difficult for them to back out.

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I believe One North East pledged nearly £10 million towards the Bridge, ---don't know if this will be withdrawn now though?, --- --and I hope that YM's gut instinct is right.:)

Strange that the design looks like a pair of crossed fingers.

We have a nickname! I'll try and add that to the SSN entry for the bridge

We have a nickname! I'll try and add that to the SSN entry for the bridge


What, --something like the Horny Bridge ?:lol:---or something else.

Yep, especially as it will be visable from such a distance.......maybe in a near by city :D

Yep, especially as it will be visable from such a distance.......maybe in a near by city :D


And fingers crossed for us,:) ---but seriously, ---I can't see it going ahead.

Minister warns transport projects set to hit red lights
October 16th 2010, by Adrian Pearson, The Journal

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nejournal/apr2009/0/6/sunderland-bridge-wear-bridge-856037338.jpg

A LIST of vital transport projects lined up for the North East will have to be cut back, a minister has warned.

Businesses and council bosses will be asked to look again at a regional wishlist which includes plans to build the UK’s tallest bridge over the River Wear as the Government prepares to swing the axe.

Transport minister Norman Baker said the Labour Government had “grotesquely” over-committed itself to the list of previously approved projects.

The coalition Government has already banned the North East from carrying out any further preparation work on its regional funding allocation as it goes over the numbers looking for cuts.

On a visit to Newcastle, Mr Baker said it would be unrealistic to expect the coalition Government to hand over more than £400m for North East projects.

The Liberal Democrat MP added: “Some of that money is already handed over, you did get a major investment in the Metro reinvigoration

“But everything from the previous Government was automatically frozen and will be subject to a new appraisal and we are negotiating with the Treasury now and then we will have certainty regarding specific schemes.


Read More - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2010/10/16/minister-warns-transport-projects-set-to-hit-red-lights-61634-27482239/#ixzz12VpHKglf

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The new Sunderland Bridge was one of the first projects I thought would be scrapped when this Government took power, ----so it would be no surprise to me if the funding is withdrawn, ---of course we all hope it might be spared, ----but can't see it.

Sunderland really should have voted lib dem or even *choke* tory in the last election. That would have made them reconsider how they treat the city.

Sunderland really should have voted lib dem or even *choke* tory in the last election. That would have made them reconsider how they treat the city.



We will find out tomorrow about all the cuts, -----as for the new Bridge, ---I won't hold my breath.

I think this project has gone. The article above hints at it and I see no reason for that Lib Dem to say anything unless all road projects had been cut.

We know there're going to be cuts yet he's still felt the need to emphasise that the cuts will be drastic.

Interesting to see the Mersey project has been protected. It seeem to have similar aspirations and a much greater price tag. But whereas this is likely to be the major project with funding in the North West it looks like all we're going to get is a committment to that Metro funding. But seeing as that has already been allocated, in reality it means they're going to give us nothing in transport investment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersey_Gateway
http://www2.halton.gov.uk/merseygateway/content/theproject/thenewbridge/?a=5441

the different between the merson project and our own, the mersey crossing in the runcorn area has only a single road bridge.... and it the only vehicle crossing point for a 34km stretch of the river..... liverpools tunnel to the west and warringtons bridges to the east..

tghe sunderland bridge will be the 4th road bridge in a 6km stretch of river..... you do the math of which one is most likely to be needed!

the different between the merson project and our own, the mersey crossing in the runcorn area has only a single road bridge.... and it the only vehicle crossing point for a 34km stretch of the river..... liverpools tunnel to the west and warringtons bridges to the east..

tghe sunderland bridge will be the 4th road bridge in a 6km stretch of river..... you do the math of which one is most likely to be needed!

I think you've misunderstood me, I recognise the importance of the Mersey project and it's right that it goes ahead.

I was just summarising the evidence I see for the Sunderland bridge not going ahead.

Mr Osborne said there is to be £30 billion invested in Transport Projects over the next four years --- including £14 billion to fund maintenance and investment in Railways, ---does anyone know if this investment represents a cut. cheers

I think this project has gone. The article above hints at it and I see no reason for that Lib Dem to say anything unless all road projects had been cut.

We know there're going to be cuts yet he's still felt the need to emphasise that the cuts will be drastic.

Interesting to see the Mersey project has been protected. It seeem to have similar aspirations and a much greater price tag. But whereas this is likely to be the major project with funding in the North West it looks like all we're going to get is a committment to that Metro funding. But seeing as that has already been allocated, in reality it means they're going to give us nothing in transport investment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mersey_Gateway
http://www2.halton.gov.uk/merseygateway/content/theproject/thenewbridge/?a=5441

I agree. Im 99% certain that this project has gone and im gutted, quite frankly. Another aspirational project for the city has come and gone. Unlike other projects, there is no possibility of the private sector taking over such a project because there's no money to be made from it. Gideon's vision for a cavalier private sector isn't going to take over the reins for this one.

The government has to realise that developers don't invest in the provincial regions where the infrastructure isn't there. Without strategic public sector intervention, there is no reason for companies to areas such as the River Wear corridor, because there is better infrastructure elsewhere. Companies don't invest in the infrastructure, they simply bugger off to somewhere that has the infrastructure.

However, taking my Mackem-rose-tinted-glasses off for a second, I can see why this project isn't a top priority. That isn't to say that it isn't important, though. We need aspirational transport infrastructure projects to revive Sunderland's economy, but unfortunately this one isn't going to drastically help the country as a whole climb out of the mire that it's in.

A really sad day for Sunderland.

I can't find any specific mention of the bridge in the various press releases and documentation but I think it's safe to say it is gone. However I have found some things of interest to the region, the following have been cancelled:

*A19 Seaton Burn junction improvements
*A19 Moor Farm junction improvements
*A1 Leeming to Barton motorway upgrade

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/clientmicrosite/Content/Detail.aspx?ClientId=202&NewsAreaId=2&ReleaseID=416118&SubjectId=36

That's 3 out of the 7 Highway's Agency projects cancelled affecting our region.

As expected, in reality the region has had all infrastructure investment cut.

If anyone is interested in this project feel free to ask me questions as I was on the design team during the major design phase.

If anyone is interested in this project feel free to ask me questions as I was on the design team during the major design phase.


I think it's a fantastic design, --you must have enjoyed, --and be proud to have worked on it, ---but as it looks as though it won't get built, --you must be as gutted as the rest of us,---btw, --welcome to the site Opax, --cheers.

I guess so. Although even when we were doing the design we all sort of had the feeling that it would never be constructed. The guy who worked on the construction phasing had some headaches, trying to actually build what was designed on paper was damn near impossible.
I lobbied to actually have some kind of internal observation platform similar to the St. Louis monument as it allready had stairs and a lift on the inside. It was going to be the first of its kind, a cable stay bridge that didnt rely on a backstay but more from the cambered strength of the towers which I dont think had been done at that scale. I know my boss got ridiculed for the initial design, especially as it beat out a Frank Gheary proposal, as the engineering community just didnt think it was feasible.

Send that image to Arup, there would be a thousand engineers who'd take the challenge! And I sent you a private message, Opax :)

I guess so. Although even when we were doing the design we all sort of had the feeling that it would never be constructed. The guy who worked on the construction phasing had some headaches, trying to actually build what was designed on paper was damn near impossible.
I lobbied to actually have some kind of internal observation platform similar to the St. Louis monument as it allready had stairs and a lift on the inside. It was going to be the first of its kind, a cable stay bridge that didnt rely on a backstay but more from the cambered strength of the towers which I dont think had been done at that scale. I know my boss got ridiculed for the initial design, especially as it beat out a Frank Gheary proposal, as the engineering community just didnt think it was feasible.


It's a real shame this won't get built, --- and after all the work that went into designing something which would have been unique, and also beating Frank Geary design --it has to be a real sickener, ----btw, ---do you think it possible that this design will be used else where

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/clientmicrosite/Content/Detail.aspx?ClientId=202&NewsAreaId=2&ReleaseID=416188&SubjectId=36

The DfT announcment today has the bridge scheme (under the name Sunderland Strategic Corridor) as allowed to bid for funding from a £600m pot. The schemes deemed best value for money will be granted.

What is the exact breakdown of costs on this project? If the cost to the Government can be minimised by introducing more local funding then it might have a chance.

The Sunderland Central Route is mentioned as being in the process of evaluation to see if it can be allowed to bid for some of the £600m. However the application has been withdrawn from the Sunderland City Council website today which suggests they're not pursuing it. A bit of a conspiracy theory here, but perhaps they're focusing their efforts on securing funding for the bridge?

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/clientmicrosite/Content/Detail.aspx?ClientId=202&NewsAreaId=2&ReleaseID=416188&SubjectId=36

The DfT announcment today has the bridge scheme (under the name Sunderland Strategic Corridor) as allowed to bid for funding from a £600m pot. The schemes deemed best value for money will be granted.

What is the exact breakdown of costs on this project? If the cost to the Government can be minimised by introducing more local funding then it might have a chance.

The Sunderland Central Route is mentioned as being in the process of evaluation to see if it can be allowed to bid for some of the £600m. However the application has been withdrawn from the Sunderland City Council website today which suggests they're not pursuing it. A bit of a conspiracy theory here, but perhaps they're focusing their efforts on securing funding for the bridge?

With regards to this point, I had trouble with the Planning Applications portal today and got this message for every application so I don't think its been withdrawn, the site just isn't working properly. In any case, the application has been granted permission so there's no reason to withdraw it.

This is as good a piece of news as we can expect at this stage. So we need the best people behind this project to make an outstanding case for it to go ahead. This is a truly transformational project and not just some road improvements, so hopefully that will work in its favour. Also, given that the North East's well publicised reliance on public sector jobs in firmly in the spotlight, this may persuade the government to favour investment there.

Here's hoping.

There doesn't seem like much hope for this, but we can only wait and see......:/

With regards to this point, I had trouble with the Planning Applications portal today and got this message for every application so I don't think its been withdrawn, the site just isn't working properly. In any case, the application has been granted permission so there's no reason to withdraw it.

This is as good a piece of news as we can expect at this stage. So we need the best people behind this project to make an outstanding case for it to go ahead. This is a truly transformational project and not just some road improvements, so hopefully that will work in its favour. Also, given that the North East's well publicised reliance on public sector jobs in firmly in the spotlight, this may persuade the government to favour investment there.

Here's hoping.


Really hope there is still a chance, ---and like said, --we can hope, --fingers crossed.

Heres a bit more, ---this from the Sunderland Echo, ---



A bridge too far
The proposed new bridge

Published on Wed Oct 27 12:23:03 BST 2010


THE future of the new Wear Bridge and other major transport projects have been left hanging in the balance.


Transport minister Philip Hammond has revealed how several schemes throughout the country will fare after the £81billion spending review cuts.

It means:

l Plans for a new Wear crossing are put on ice, and possibly the end for the “iconic” bridge design;

l Improvements to Testo’s roundabout on the A19 shelved until at least 2015;

l The Central Route, designed to improve access to Rainton Bridge Business Park, also remains on hold.

The changes mean that the projects that would have seen more than £450million spent on upgrades to bridges and bypasses during the next decade have been stalled.

The landmark bridge – part of the Strategic Transport Corridor – with its ambitious design was intended to put Sunderland on the map, bring in investment, cut congestion and boost business links.

Transport Minister Philip Hammond said: “This project is one of many in the development pool, so applicants will have to sharpen their pencil, think through their scheme and put their best proposal forward; then we will make a decision.”

But city council leader Paul Watson was not despondent about the announcement. He said: “It’s relatively good news. At least it hasn’t been killed dead.”

He said the project will now have to prove its value against about 20 other transport schemes from across the country, to win part of the £600million cashpot.

He added: “We need to show how it will regenerate the economy along the south bank of the river and the route into the port, and how it can enable the government to achieve its aim to rebalance the economy across the country.” Coun Watson said they had to show the bridge’s value in “whatever form it takes,” suggesting the planned iconic design could have to be ditched for a cheaper one.

“If if can’t be iconic then it can’t be, but we never give up hope.”

Sunderland Conservative Group leader, Coun Tony Morrissey, said he was pleased the project was still in the competition for funding. He said: “This gives us some hope, but only if we can put up a convincing enough argument.”

Coun Tony Morrissey and Coun Watson recently sent a joint letter to the transport department, urging support for the bridge project.

“Anything else we can do to help will be done,” he said. “It is an important part of the economic masterplan for the city.”

Gary Hutchinson, chairman of the Sunderland committee of the North East Chamber of Commerce, said the uncertainty over the bridge scheme and any cuts to transport and infrastructure were “a concern for business.”

He said the bridge was also about regeneration and ensuring arterial routes are sufficient for the new Tyne Tunnel.

The bridge project had been thrown into doubt after the General Election when the £98million earmarked by the last Government was caught up in the Coallition spending review.

Ministers said yesterday that Sunderland Strategic Transport Corridor – which includes the bridge – was value for money, but would be “subject to further analysis” and consultation, and a revised funding offer from Sunderland Council.

It may be that the council or a successor to One NorthEast has to find more of the cash for the project.

Houghton and Sunderland South MP Bridget Phillipson took the Government to task over the transport projects yesterday.

She said: “If we are to compete nationally and regionally then we need improved transport links, and the Strategic Transport Corridor and the bridge are crucial in that, and in bringing jobs to Sunderland.” She added she thought the North East had “faired poorly” in transport statements released yesterday.

The second Tyne Tunnel is due to open next year, bringing with it improved transport links and hopes of more investment in Sunderland.

A number of proposals to improve traffic flow and cope with the increased number of vehicles on the A19 as a result of the second tunnel were submitted to Government, but have either been scrapped or remain in doubt.

Improvements to Testo’s roundabout on the A19 in Boldon and the A19/A1058 Coast Road Junction in North Tyneside are said to be “unaffordable” during the current spending review, but are “likely candidates” to be continued after 2015.

Other schemes on the A19 North of the Tyne at Seaton Burn and Moor Farm which have been scrapped outright as the Government says these “cannot realistically be funded in the forseeable future”.

Improvements to the Metro system, installing new tickets and gating will go ahead as previsouly announced.

I wonder if the cancellation of this project will have a knock-on effect in terms of the Sainsburys development on the Jennings site? The loss of the bridge will close off a lot of potential customers surely.

I wonder if the cancellation of this project will have a knock-on effect in terms of the Sainsburys development on the Jennings site? The loss of the bridge will close off a lot of potential customers surely.

Don't think this will affect the Development, --think they would have considered all eventualities.

---This from the Echo, ---



New hope for bridge funding
Published on Sat Nov 27 10:05:08 GMT 2010


A FRESH bid for funding to create an iconic bridge in Sunderland will be considered next week.


Council chiefs are expected to submit the new bid for the money, after Ministers put the project on ice because of the Comprehensive Spending Review.

The landmark structure is hailed as a key development for reviving Wearside’s fortunes. Sunderland City Council was pledged £98million from the Department for Transport (DfT) for the project back in 2008.

Since then, however, the project has been caught up in the national spending crisis and the Government announced last month that funding for the bridge was now in the DfT’s £600million “development pool.”

The department has said it will carry out further work on the 22 projects in the pool and make funding decisions before the end of 2011.

Senior councillors will meet next week to discuss sending the Government an “expression of interest” confirming the council wishes to continue the bridge project and detailing how much cash it needs and the wider economic benefits of the scheme.

Council leader Paul Watson said: “A new major road crossing for the River Wear has been an issue for many years and has not gone away yet.

“We know the city’s landmark bridge project is a strong case with its functional and regeneration role.

“We are looking, on Wednesday, at what we do next to deliver this key project for Sunderland and the North East region.”

The council must submit its expression of interest in January, followed by a “best and final offer” from the council to the Government.

It will also be able to continue with preparations for acquiring the land for the bridge, drawing up compulsory purchase orders where necessary.

If successful at the final offer stage, officers will appoint a main contractor for the project in 2012 and work will begin in 2013.

The new bridge between Castletown and Pallion is part of the Sunderland Strategic Transport Corridor superroute aimed at beating congestion and providing fast links into the city’s key development sites.

Total costs for the bridge and approach roads were anticipated at £133million when the council and its partners decided to back the landmark structure, designed by architect Stephen Spence with engineers Techniker.

The public can sit in on Wednesday’s cabinet meeting to discuss the next stage of funding the project.

It starts at 2pm in Committee Room One at Sunderland Civic Centre.

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Sounds like the council are determined (for a change) to get this one going.

Anyone going to the meeting?

Sounds like the council are determined (for a change) to get this one going.

Anyone going to the meeting?


Yeah, --the Council seem determined to try and keep this project moving ahead, ----lets hope they can submit a winning bid, ----at least they are giving it a go,

I won't be able to get to the meeting.

Yeah, --the Council seem determined to try and keep this project moving ahead, ----lets hope they can submit a winning bid, ----at least they are giving it a go

I think the gist of the meeting will be let's try and get anything that is left in the "pot". It either won't happen or we will get a bog standard road crossing and even that will be unlikely, but you never know. I might have tempted to go had the weather been better and more importantly I had any leave from work.

Has anyone heard anything about the deputy leader of Sunderland council? I think she is called Florrie Anderson and apparently she has been slagging off Sunderland and the football team, she is supposed to be a Newcastle supporter. She was the one who hoped Maggie Thatcher burns in hell, nice lady. Could not find anything in the Sunderland Echo or on the web. What hope have we got with councillors like that.

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I think the gist of the meeting will be let's try and get anything that is left in the "pot". It either won't happen or we will get a bog standard road crossing and even that will be unlikely, but you never know. I might have tempted to go had the weather been better and more importantly I had any leave from work.

Has anyone heard anything about the deputy leader of Sunderland council? I think she is called Florrie Anderson and apparently she has been slagging off Sunderland and the football team, she is supposed to be a Newcastle supporter. She was the one who hoped Maggie Thatcher burns in hell, nice lady. Could not find anything in the Sunderland Echo or on the web. What hope have we got with councillors like that.

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We have to hope for the best possible outcome, ---but you have a point regarding a standard road bridge, ---be a shame though if the fantastic design is not built, -----as for this woman councillor, ----I have heard people mention what she has been saying, --the way I see this, ---she can support any football team she wants, ----but if it's true that she has been slating/slagging the Council and the City she represents in public, then personally I think this is wrong, --and her position untenable, ---just my view like.

We have to hope for the best possible outcome, ---but you have a point regarding a standard road bridge, ---be a shame though if the fantastic design is not built, -----as for this woman councillor, ----I have heard people mention what she has been saying, --the way I see this, ---she can support any football team she wants, ----but if it's true that she has been slating/slagging the Council and the City she represents in public, then personally I think this is wrong, --and her position untenable, ---just my view like.

I agree she can supports who she likes, however I doubt she would be having a go at Sunderland if she supported, say Man Utd. People like her give great ammuntion to some of our neighbours up the road (I include the media as well) who take great delight in slagging the place off but are silent when Sunderland does achieve anything. Anyway, it would be fantastic if the bridge happens and hopefully it will be an icon for the City when we get the World Cup bid (fingers crossed).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wear-11897953

Fresh hope for new River Wear bridge in Sunderland
Proposed Sunderland River Wear bridge The previous Labour government has said it would fund up to £98m of the costs.

Plans to build England's tallest bridge across the River Wear in Sunderland are to be resubmitted to the government, despite a previous bid being shelved.

The 590ft (180m) high and 1,102ft (336m) long structure would link Wessington Way on the north side of the river to Pallion New Road on the south.

But the Sunderland City Council plan fell foul of government spending cuts.

The Department for Transport said any revised plan would have to compete for a share of a £600m pot.

The previous Labour government had promised up to £98m of the costs. But the coalition government shelved the proposal in the spending review.

Sunderland City Council leader Paul Watson said he was hopeful that a resubmitted bid for cash would be successful.

He said: "We are cautiously optimistic that we have a good case although the criteria has slightly changed.

"The thing is that we don't just have to make a case for the bridge now, we have to make a case in competition with other bids around the country.

"Congestion will get worse and car ownership will rise, so this bridge becomes more and more important to the economy of the city and the wellbeing of its residents."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wear-11897953

Fresh hope for new River Wear bridge in Sunderland
Proposed Sunderland River Wear bridge The previous Labour government has said it would fund up to £98m of the costs.

Plans to build England's tallest bridge across the River Wear in Sunderland are to be resubmitted to the government, despite a previous bid being shelved.

The 590ft (180m) high and 1,102ft (336m) long structure would link Wessington Way on the north side of the river to Pallion New Road on the south.

But the Sunderland City Council plan fell foul of government spending cuts.

The Department for Transport said any revised plan would have to compete for a share of a £600m pot.

The previous Labour government had promised up to £98m of the costs. But the coalition government shelved the proposal in the spending review.

Sunderland City Council leader Paul Watson said he was hopeful that a resubmitted bid for cash would be successful.

He said: "We are cautiously optimistic that we have a good case although the criteria has slightly changed.

"The thing is that we don't just have to make a case for the bridge now, we have to make a case in competition with other bids around the country.

"Congestion will get worse and car ownership will rise, so this bridge becomes more and more important to the economy of the city and the wellbeing of its residents."

I certainly think the heart is still beating in this one.

This bridge would do a lot of the work that public sector subsidy would have done in development schemes along the River Wear Corridor, and therefore it must be seen as good value for money by the government. Better transport infrastructure and an iconic 'wow' factor for the City will bring private sector investment and change any adverse perceptions of the City that the private sector may have.

Does anyone have any information on which schemes we are competing against for this funding? I seem to remember seeing them at some point but can't find the info on the web anywhere.

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We can all hope marra, ----I don't know any of the other projects, ---but I think there is 22 of them, --lets hope we can still get the funding.

I certainly think the heart is still beating in this one.

This bridge would do a lot of the work that public sector subsidy would have done in development schemes along the River Wear Corridor, and therefore it must be seen as good value for money by the government. Better transport infrastructure and an iconic 'wow' factor for the City will bring private sector investment and change any adverse perceptions of the City that the private sector may have.

Does anyone have any information on which schemes we are competing against for this funding? I seem to remember seeing them at some point but can't find the info on the web anywhere.

A pot of over £600m will be available to fund further local authority projects. The department will conduct some further analysis on the following schemes – the ‘development group’ - and invite best and final funding bids from this pot:

- Waverley Link Road (Rotherham)
- Beverley Integrated Transport Plan
- Bedale-Aiskew-Leeming Bar Bypass (N Yorks)
- Norwich Northern Distributor Road
- Bristol Bus Rapid Transit Ashton Vale to Temple Meads
- Loughborough Town Centre Transport Scheme
- Leeds Rail Growth package
- Nottingham Ring Road
- Access York Park & Ride
- Weston-Super-Mare package
- Bath Transportation Package
- White Rose Way Improvement (Doncaster)
- Rochdale Interchange
- Crewe Green Link Southern Section
- Sunderland Strategic Corridor
- A18-A180 Link
- Manchester Cross City Bus
- Pennine Reach (East Lancs Rapid Transit)
- Sheffield Supertram additional vehicles
- Hucknall Town Centre Improvement (Northamptonshire)
- Leeds New Generation Transport
- Bexhill to Hastings Link Road

http://nds.coi.gov.uk/clientmicrosite/Content/Detail.aspx?ClientId=202&NewsAreaId=2&ReleaseID=416188&SubjectId=36

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Just got to hope that the Council resubmitted bid will be good enough, --fingers crossed, ----thanks for the info marra.

Looking at that list, from a purely political point of view, we must be in with a good chance. York or Bedale are the nearest competing projects, so if they want anything in the NE, they've got to go for Sunderland.

Plus, there are a lot of public transport projects in there, which I guess won't be as popular with what seems like quite a pro-car administration.

Like denm says, just up to the Council to make sure the bid's up to scratch.

Looking at that list, from a purely political point of view, we must be in with a good chance. York or Bedale are the nearest competing projects, so if they want anything in the NE, they've got to go for Sunderland.

Plus, there are a lot of public transport projects in there, which I guess won't be as popular with what seems like quite a pro-car administration.

Like denm says, just up to the Council to make sure the bid's up to scratch.

They scrapped the A19/Testo's/Tyne Tunnel improvements and agreed the £360m metro improvements though.

It's hard to gauge, ---or guess what the Government Department will do, ---and with all these other schemes/projects wanting funding, ---it's just wait and see, and hope our bid is strong enough, ---fingers crossed and all that.

I must say as much as I like the bridge Sunderland should really throw its weight more behind dualling the A1 in Northumberland.

I must say as much as I like the bridge Sunderland should really throw its weight more behind dualling the A1 in Northumberland.


I think all North East Councils have backed the A1 proposals, ---but, ----a new Bridge for Sunderland is vitally important, --not only to help ease congestion, --but also it will help with economic growth.

There have been whispers that this massive project may have been given the kiss of life, but we should hear more soon.

I don't want to dampen anyone's hopes here but does it have to be an iconic bridge?

Their is no doubt that a new bridge maybe needed, but wouldn't a simple no frills bridge that cost say £20m instead of £100m do just the job? Simply Sunderland isn't going to be given £100m for a bridge, no one place outside of London is going to be given that much, especially when the region has been given a lot of money for the Metro aswell.

If indeed the region did manage to hold on to that £100m, do you agree that it would be best splitting it up, for a no frills bridge, and say money for the A19? which is a road that provides a lot of transport access to and from Sunderland.

I don't want to dampen anyone's hopes here but does it have to be an iconic bridge?

Their is no doubt that a new bridge maybe needed, but wouldn't a simple no frills bridge that cost say £20m instead of £100m do just the job? Simply Sunderland isn't going to be given £100m for a bridge, no one place outside of London is going to be given that much, especially when the region has been given a lot of money for the Metro aswell.

If indeed the region did manage to hold on to that £100m, do you agree that it would be best splitting it up, for a no frills bridge, and say money for the A19? which is a road that provides a lot of transport access to and from Sunderland.


Not sure where you're getting your figures from, Chris. Are you gleaning your costings from anything in particular?

The cost of a no-frills bridge was put at £98m, and this figure was agreed by the Department of Transport under the previous government.

There followed a public debate about whether it was worth putting the £30m difference to finance the iconic aspects of the project, and it was resolved by Sunderland Council, One North East and other agencies that it was indeed worth the additional funding.

Not sure where you're getting your figures from, Chris. Are you gleaning your costings from anything in particular?

The cost of a no-frills bridge was put at £98m, and this figure was agreed by the Department of Transport under the previous government.

There followed a public debate about whether it was worth putting the £30m difference to finance the iconic aspects of the project, and it was resolved by Sunderland Council, One North East and other agencies that it was indeed worth the additional funding.Wow, £98m for a no frills bridge, thats steep. I thought it was £100m for the iconic bridge.

nope, i believe it was £95-£100m for a conventional bridge, and £130m for the iconic version

Not sure if this article has been posted yet?

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/business/latest-news/bid_to_bridge_funding_gap_1_3053199

But I like the comment But now the scheme has been out on ice as a result of the Coalition Government’s spending cuts, as the council concentrates on plans for a new Wear crossing.

Sounds like the bridge will happen at the expense of other schemes/upgrades.

Not sure if this article has been posted yet?

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/business/latest-news/bid_to_bridge_funding_gap_1_3053199

But I like the comment

Sounds like the bridge will happen at the expense of other schemes/upgrades.


Yeah your right marra, ----looks like the Council will shelve other Schemes in the hope that they will get funding for the new Bridge, ----lets hope it's works.

I was reading BQ magazine which has a Sunderland supplement in the latest issue. There was an article on regeneration in the City centre and the empty sites.

The message was that the focus since the spending review has been on the bridge and securing that funding and that everything else is on hold until that happens.

It said the council has provided significant extra information that proves the economic benefit of the new Wear as it will to kickstart development all along the corridor from the bridge to the City Centre. It seems to have been presented very much inline with the Government's aspirations of creating private sector jobs within regional cities to fund the gap left by the public service cuts.

Due to the huge potential of Sunderland and the fact that the City Centre is a blank canvas in many areas, it could turn into a real success story for the Government if they play their cards right.

Edit:
In fact the latest issue is now online, it's well worth the read: http://www.bq-magazine.co.uk/northeast/archive/2011/BQissue12supplement/index.html

I was reading BQ magazine which has a Sunderland supplement in the latest issue. There was an article on regeneration in the City centre and the empty sites.

The message was that the focus since the spending review has been on the bridge and securing that funding and that everything else is on hold until that happens.

It said the council has provided significant extra information that proves the economic benefit of the new Wear as it will to kickstart development all along the corridor from the bridge to the City Centre. It seems to have been presented very much inline with the Government's aspirations of creating private sector jobs within regional cities to fund the gap left by the public service cuts.

Due to the huge potential of Sunderland and the fact that the City Centre is a blank canvas in many areas, it could turn into a real success story for the Government if they play their cards right.

Edit:
In fact the latest issue is now online, it's well worth the read: http://www.bq-magazine.co.uk/northeast/archive/2011/BQissue12supplement/index.html

That was a canny read Jet, ---and I agree with your comments regarding the Government, ---I reckon there could be thousands of jobs created along the South side of the River, --from Pallion along to Deptford and right through to the City Centre / Vaux / Farringdon Row, and down to the Port, ---so lets hope the Government see the huge potential, --and fund the proposed Bridge, --cheers.

This from the Sunderland Echo, --


Bid to buy up land for new Sunderland bridge


An artist's impression of the proposed new Wear crossing.




Published on Wednesday 8 June 2011 10:43



WORK is pressing ahead to keep alive the vision of Wearside’s new landmark bridge.


Council bosses are putting together a fresh order to secure land needed to build the new river crossing – despite the project being put on ice.

Sunderland City Council has already made provision for Compulsory Purchase Orders (CPOs) to acquire land needed to build the bridge and its approach roads if negotiations fail with landowners.

Now it is preparing the ground for another CPO for land on the south side of Pallion New Road.

Councillor Jim Blackburn, responsible for the bridge project, said some highways must be stopped-up or improved, which would impact on the land in question.

“The stopping-up of this access is required on highway safety grounds, given its proximity to the proposed new traffic signal-controlled junction, which will be installed at the key junction of the B1405 with Woodbine Terrace and European Way as part of the southern approach to the new bridge,” he said.

“Without access to Pallion New Road, the land will be of limited or little value to the land owner and the council must therefore buy it from them


Read more http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/bid_to_buy_up_land_for_new_sunderland_bridge_1_3458192

Nice to see they are not letting this one die, I'd love to see that bridge go up.

Nice to see they are not letting this one die, I'd love to see that bridge go up.

Yeah I agree, ---just got to hope they might still get the funding from Government, --but won't hold my breath.

This from the Sunderland Echo, ---



The new river Wear road bridge




Published on Wednesday 24 August 2011 10:15



THE new Wear crossing should be dubbed the “Diamond Jubilee Bridge” to help persuade ministers to cough up cash.


That’s the view of Tory councillor Lee Martin, who wants to step up pressure on his own party to deliver the vital Government funding needed for the project.

The £98million earmarked for the bridge by the last Government is caught up in the Coalition’s review of transport spending.

Coun Martin, the Barnes councillor who stepped down as Sunderland Tory leader last year, said: “We’ve got to do something to put pressure on the Government to make sure we get the funding for that bridge.

“Plans for a new bridge have been discussed for 30 or 40 years and we can’t let it wait that long again.

“Next year is the Diamond Jubilee, but it’s also the 20th anniversary of the Queen making us a city.”

He added: “We need to make the bridge uncancellable and I don’t think anyone’s going to want to pull funding on something called the Diamond Jubilee Bridge

Read more http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/diamond_idea_for_new_bridge_1_3706444

New bridge for Sunderland may become a reality
by Iain Laing, The Journal, September 28th 2011

http://i698.photobucket.com/albums/vv345/manorpark_photos/Newcastle%203/big-bridge.jpg

BUSINESSES from across the North East have thrown their weight behind a bid to build a new bridge across the River Wear in Sunderland.

The project is designed to help support further city regeneration and improve access between the A19 and central Sunderland.

A bid for £82.5m towards funding the crossing has now been logged with the Department for Transport (DfT).

In 2010, the Transport Secretary said a pot of more than £600m of funding could be made available for local authority transport projects that can help facilitate economic growth and provide jobs.

The bid can be seen at www.newsunderlandbridge.com.

It includes letters of support from businesses including Nissan, Arriva, Newcastle International Airport, Hays Travel, Liebherr, Stagecoach, Rayovac, TRW Systems, UK Land Estates, Gentoo, 2Touch and Barclays.


Read More (Two Pages) - http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/business-news/latest-business-news/2011/09/28/new-bridge-for-sunderland-may-become-a-reality-51140-29499188/

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This is excellent news, ---would be fantastic if it becomes a reality, --lets hope it happens, cheers.

Would be great if it comes off, the city really needs it, as it's a right pain driving either allt he way into Queen Alex bridge or back out to the A19 if you want to go over the river.

I know i'll prob get shot down over this, but whilst i like the iconic design, do you think it would have been approved earlier if it had a possibly cheaper and more pragmatic design, like say the A19 bridge over the Wear?

Would be great if it comes off, the city really needs it, as it's a right pain driving either allt he way into Queen Alex bridge or back out to the A19 if you want to go over the river.

I know i'll prob get shot down over this, but whilst i like the iconic design, do you think it would have been approved earlier if it had a possibly cheaper and more pragmatic design, like say the A19 bridge over the Wear?



The previous Government had already approved funding for a new Bridge, --think it was about £90 million, ---this would get a basic designed Bridge similar to the Hylton Bridge, -----SCC would have funded the remainder for the iconic Bridge about £30 million, ----but I don't think any of this would have meant it's approval would have been sooner, --just my opinion like, --btw, welcome to the forum.

Thanks Denm, i have often looked in, as i have an interest in developments, and architecture, and this forum is always good to see what's going on in the local area, and some of the other areas of the country that i have lived in.

Do you remember a few years ago, they where on about building a footbridge over the Wear, next to the railway bridge, and Wearmouth bridge. It was to connect the SoL to the city centre, so that they didn't have to semi-close Wearmouth Bridge on match days. I haven't read anything about that for a long time, do you have any news on it?

Thanks Denm, i have often looked in, as i have an interest in developments, and architecture, and this forum is always good to see what's going on in the local area, and some of the other areas of the country that i have lived in.

Do you remember a few years ago, they where on about building a footbridge over the Wear, next to the railway bridge, and Wearmouth bridge. It was to connect the SoL to the city centre, so that they didn't have to semi-close Wearmouth Bridge on match days. I haven't read anything about that for a long time, do you have any news on it?


Regarding the Footbridge, ---I believe it was in the original blue print and Master plan that included a Pedestrian Bridge, ----and I believe this still to be the case, ---but it remains to be seen, --when Developers eventually get on site --if plans will have changed or not, --- but sorry mate, --I don't have any updates.

Do you remember a few years ago, they where on about building a footbridge over the Wear, next to the railway bridge, and Wearmouth bridge. It was to connect the SoL to the city centre, so that they didn't have to semi-close Wearmouth Bridge on match days. I haven't read anything about that for a long time, do you have any news on it?

I'll probably be told I'm mad, but I'd love to see a cable car over the wear from the Vaux site to the stadium. Would really make the most of the river gorge, and would be a feature that no other cities have. It'd fit well with the sports village concept for the Stadium/Sheepfolds area. Boris is doing one from the Dome to Excel, so clearly such things are possible.

I guess it would require someone at SCC to have some imagination/ambition, tho.

I'll probably be told I'm mad, but I'd love to see a cable car over the wear from the Vaux site to the stadium. Would really make the most of the river gorge, and would be a feature that no other cities have. It'd fit well with the sports village concept for the Stadium/Sheepfolds area. Boris is doing one from the Dome to Excel, so clearly such things are possible.

I guess it would require someone at SCC to have some imagination/ambition, tho.

You know, i think that would be excellent too, i would imagine it wouldn't cost much more then a bridge to build either, possibly even cheaper, but maintenance costs be a little more, and would be unique, and an attraction in its own right.

The downside is, i bet people would be waiting a long time to go across the river on matchdays, can you imagine the ques ! lol

They're building a cable car over the Thames in London now which is approximately 60m.

I'll probably be told I'm mad, but I'd love to see a cable car over the wear from the Vaux site to the stadium. Would really make the most of the river gorge, and would be a feature that no other cities have. It'd fit well with the sports village concept for the Stadium/Sheepfolds area. Boris is doing one from the Dome to Excel, so clearly such things are possible.

I guess it would require someone at SCC to have some imagination/ambition, tho.


Don't know if a cable car has been suggested, ---but one over the Wear might be worth thinking about, --like you said, --it would certainly be a feature.

Published on Monday 28 November 2011 11:22

THE new Wear bridge will unlock 6,000 jobs and generate £4 for every £1 it costs to build, the Government has been told.

Transport Secretary Justine Greening has come under pressure from her own party to release funding for Wearside’s landmark bridge.

Read more: http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/business/latest-news/new_sunderland_bridge_could_help_create_6_000_jobs_1_4011232

Read more: http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/business/latest-news/new_sunderland_bridge_could_help_create_6_000_jobs_1_4011232


We can only hope that the Transport Secretary will listen to Mr Oliver --and give the nod, --would be very good for the City if it gets the go-ahead.

Looks like 20 of the 45 schemes in the 'development pool' have been approved today. Says the other 25 will get a decision by Christmas: http://www.dft.gov.uk/publications/local-authority-major-schemes-development-pools
:yawn:

Looks like 20 of the 45 schemes in the 'development pool' have been approved today. Says the other 25 will get a decision by Christmas: http://www.dft.gov.uk/publications/local-authority-major-schemes-development-pools
:yawn:

Thanks for the link marra, ---just looked at those 20, ---and I noted there are a couple of Cities with two projects which have been given the nod,----also, --I think the amount of monies in the whole fund is approximately £ 600 million, --so, --with more than half of the funding gone, ----it's going to be touch and go for our Project, ---everything crossed for a positive outcome.

More waffle from the council..

Published on Monday 5 December 2011 13:52

CITY leaders hope cash for the new Wear bridge could come from a new Government transport fund after they met to discuss the project in Westminster.

Wearside MP Sharon Hodgson hosted talks in the House of Commons where public and private sector representatives said the new bridge and road network represents a “step change” in Sunderland’s development.

That news came after Chancellor George Osborne announced £6billion over three years to fund “oven-ready” infrastructure projects in his Autumn Statement.

Sunderland City Council leader Paul Watson said he was optimistic at the news.

Read more: Link (http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/funding_hope_for_new_sunderland_bridge_1_4032445?optionValueBeforeVoting=11072&pollId=poll_7_91502&pollIdpoll_7_91502QuestionId0=2&vote=true&pollIdpoll_7_91502=0&cookieSet=true)

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Just got to hope the Bridge receives the funding, ----theres the potential of thousands of jobs that could be created if the whole Project gets the go-ahead, ---everything crossed for this.:)

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Just got to hope the Bridge receives the funding, ----theres the potential of thousands of jobs that could be created if the whole Project gets the go-ahead, ---everything crossed for this.:)

And the potential for this to kick start the other developments like Vaux, Farringdon etc.

I needed to drive into Sunderland on Sunday morning (not something I do everyday because I live in Jarrow), and I can see why people dont want to visit Sunderland city centre. You've either got the choice of sitting in the one way ring road lights at Roker or the lights that take forever to change at the other bridge, it would have made a massive difference if I was able to cross the river at Hylton retail park.

I've got this gut feeling that the funding wont be approved though, they are more likely to give lots of little pots to smaller schemes than one massive scheme like this.

Fingers crossed though.

Was there a proposal back in the Tyne Wear Development Corporation's day to bring the upper deck of the Queen Alexandria Bridge back into use as a carriageway and effectively dual the bridge? I can imagine this being linked into a flyover from Wessington Way to the upper deck, avoidng the gyratory.

I've got this gut feeling that the funding wont be approved though, they are more likely to give lots of little pots to smaller schemes than one massive scheme like this.

Fingers crossed though.

I agree, I'd love it to be approved, but I think it's got zero chance.

Was there a proposal back in the Tyne Wear Development Corporation's day to bring the upper deck of the Queen Alexandria Bridge back into use as a carriageway and effectively dual the bridge? I can imagine this being linked into a flyover from Wessington Way to the upper deck, avoidng the gyratory.

Not sure if the Alex Bridge was an option mate, ---but I do remember something being mentioned about it's upper deck, --but don't know if this was the possibility of bringing back the rail line, --but I think the Alex Bridge would be to weak to carry another road system, ---it's not long since they had to strengthen it on Engineers advice. cheers .

And the potential for this to kick start the other developments like Vaux, Farringdon etc.

I needed to drive into Sunderland on Sunday morning (not something I do everyday because I live in Jarrow), and I can see why people dont want to visit Sunderland city centre. You've either got the choice of sitting in the one way ring road lights at Roker or the lights that take forever to change at the other bridge, it would have made a massive difference if I was able to cross the river at Hylton retail park.

I've got this gut feeling that the funding wont be approved though, they are more likely to give lots of little pots to smaller schemes than one massive scheme like this.

Fingers crossed though.


Yes, -- apart from the obvious benefits of reducing the various traffic problems, ---this new Bridge would bring so much more in terms of kick starting many Developments thus creating thousands of jobs, --and the thousands of jobs is exactly what the Government is desperate to create --and the new Bridge project fits the Governments criteria, ---- so like everyone else I hope the Bridge gets the funding, ---we can only hope.

I believe an announcement/decision with regard to funding is expected about December 16th...

I believe an announcement/decision with regard to funding is expected about December 16th...

Thanks for the info mate, --will be looking out for the decision with everything crossed, :lol:--cheers.

Published on Monday 12 December 2011 12:31

CONTRACTORS today warned ministers that delaying the new Wear bridge could contribute to a “catastrophic collapse” in the region’s civil engineering industry.

The Civil Engineering Contractors Association North East (Ceca) has sounded the alarm over construction investment and said the new crossing was a much-needed major project which was crucially important to the industry.

In a letter sent on behalf of 5,000 civil engineering workers, Ceca has called on North East MPs and the Commons Transport Select Committee to press for its approval by the Government.

http://www.sunderlandecho.com/webimage/1.4053819.1323693099!image/3186680543.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_595/3186680543.jpg

Read more: http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/business/latest-news/warning_over_delays_to_new_wear_bridge_1_4053820

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Seems though everyone is backing the new Bridge, ----just got to hope Government does likewise, ---won't be long until we will find out.

Finance approved. :banana:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/news/press-releases/dft-press20111214

Finance approved. :banana:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/news/press-releases/dft-press20111214


Absolutely fantastic news, ---cheers. :banana::cheers:

Absolutely fantastic news, ---cheers. :banana::cheers:

Second largest award, only the Norwich Northern Distributor Road was higher at £86.5m.

Made my day, gerrin!!

Great news!!

Any chance anything can stop this happening now?

Great news!!

Any chance anything can stop this happening now?

I don't think so, the tender process is sorted so it's just awarding the contract and getting on with it now.

Tallest bridge in England 180 metres high. :cheers:

I don't think so, the tender process is sorted so it's just awarding the contract and getting on with it now.

Tallest bridge in England 180 metres high. :cheers:

Brilliant! the sooner this get started the better, cn't wait for the day i can take photos of this bridge

Brilliant! the sooner this get started the better, cn't wait for the day i can take photos of this bridge

Think I might invest in a new DSLR for christmas after hearing this news. :lol:

Sunderland Strategic Corridor. A new bridge over the River Wear (£82.6m DfT contribution towards a total cost of £117.6m).

At last, something positive!

Think I might invest in a new DSLR for christmas after hearing this news. :lol:

This bridge is oing to be a great attraction for photographers!

When will dates etc be announced?

great news

This bridge is oing to be a great attraction for photographers!

When will dates etc be announced?

Don't know any exact dates, --but hopefully will begin early next year, --and complete in 2015, ---great news though.

Absolutely brilliant. Thought it would get knocked back. Opens up a load of land and hopefully a lot of investment. Sunderland "Oh, that's where the big bridge is!". I reckon it might be "The Sunderland Diamond Jubilee Bridge". No doubt our "friends" up the road will be moaning that it should have been spent there. Just hope the council don't mess it up now.

Brilliant news. Have to admit, quite a pleasant surprise - i had thought when it wasn't in the batch announced with the autumn statement that we didn't have much chance.

Up to the city now to make the most of it - hopefully yhe beginning of a new era for the city - a lot of potential along the route at Groves, Lisburn Terrace, Deptford, Farringdon Row and of course Vaux and the Port.

It does highlight how early the Echo goes to press though - i'd heard through twitter well before lunchtime, yet no mention in the paper tonight!

This from the BBC, ---


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Plans to build England's tallest bridge across the River Wear in Sunderland have been given the go ahead.

The government announced it would provide £82.6m to fund the 590ft (180m) high and 1,102ft (336m) long bridge.

The new crossing will link Wessington Way on the north side of the river to Pallion New Road on the south.

Sunderland City Council leader Paul Watson said it was "great news for Sunderland and the wider region".

Read more http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-16182658

This from the Sunderland Echo, ----



Sunderland's new bridge will be built.




Published on Thursday 15 December 2011 14:27



SUNDERLAND’S new landmark bridge is to become a reality.


Today civic leaders, MPs, leading businessmen and women and Wearsiders welcomed the announcement that will change the face of the city and bring thousands of jobs.

Department for Transport (DfT) chiefs have confirmed an £82.5million grant that will help make the much-touted “iconic bridge” project a reality.

And work could begin as early as next year, with the new crossing due to open to traffic as early as 2015.

Plans for the new bridge have been on the drawing board since the 1980s but there had been fears the Government’s wave of public sector spending cuts had killed off the project.

But Sunderland City Council put in a bid for funding in September after the Government said that £630million was being made available for local authority projects that could help boost economic growth and create jobs.

The council believes the project – which will link Castletown on the north bank of the Wear to Pallion on the south – will generate £4 in economic benefit for every £1 it costs.

Coun Paul Watson, leader of Sunderland City Council, said: “The investment in a strategic infrastructure scheme will open up regeneration sites along the River Wear and bring forward investment to Sunderland.

“We see this project as an integral part of Sunderland’s ongoing regeneration as it can help create thousands of new jobs by improving links between the A19, the city centre and the Port of Sunderland.

“This announcement is great news for Sunderland and the wider region.

“There has been talk for a long time that Sunderland has needed a major new road crossing over the River Wear.

“This is an issue that has not gone away and I know the city and region is grateful for this opportunity to start work on this landmark project.

“The bold design of the new bridge is architecturally significant; it will become a confident and symbolic landmark for Sunderland and the North East.

Read more http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/business/latest-news/sunderland_s_iconic_new_bridge_will_create_thousands_of_jobs_1_4064616

Reading the comments underneath that Echo article. Quite sad that some people are against such an exciting and iconic development. How anyone could argue that a plain design would have been suitable. Yes it would have done a basic job of getting people over the Wear etc but this bridge is much more than just that. It also gives the city believe that it has a real future.

In many years people will not just know Sunderland for being some place in the North East or having an underachieving football club, but also as the with the tallest bridge in England.

Reading the comments underneath that Echo article. Quite sad that some people are against such an exciting and iconic development. How anyone could argue that a plain design would have been suitable. Yes it would have done a basic job of getting people over the Wear etc but this bridge is much more than just that. It also gives the city believe that it has a real future.

In many years people will know Sunderland for being some place in the North East or having an underachieving football club, but also as the with the tallest bridge in England.


Aye, ---you just can't please some folk, ---and there are a minority who can't see passed their nose end, ---and there are some people who are just ignorant to the facts, ---I overheard one man saying the £82 million should be spent in the City Centre, ---obviously not understanding the funding is specifically for the Bridge and roads, ---anyway, ---it's great that the Bridge is going ahead, --and will most likely begin next Autumn.

I've updated SSN:

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=5901