Greatest City in Ireland?

Lisburn

Greatest City outside Dublin in Ireland?


Fixed that for you ;)

Strabane

Ooh you said "Derry" - your in trouble now.....beware the wrath of Belfastuniguy's "factual" rants ;)

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I say Derry.....idiot

Simply because it's quicker. I couldn't give a fuck about the political HYERBOLE. Though OFFICIALLY it is Londonderry.

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I say Derry.....idiot




Take a chill pill and relax. You should know when people are joking. The wink is the giveaway.

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Rather difficult to tell with you now and then, given the historical inclination to bullshit :)

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I'd say Dublin. It's the largest and it's the capital. And it used to be the Empires second city after London. But I think that Belfast is really great as well and one of the best cities in the UK.

1 & my vote = Dublin - Attractive, bustling, lively, friendly, multicultural - Everything a city should be (Apart from highrises :P)
2. Cork - Very attractive city. Nice atmosphere.
3. Belfast - Good new developments, attractive centre. Can seem unatmospheric/flat though.

Based on pics: (Probably would be higher if I visited)

4. Galway
5. Limerick

Cities that definitely shouldn't be cities:

Armagh (wtf!) Newry/Lisburn (Should still be towns, and Lisburn should be a suburb of Belfast, not it's own city)

(ok sorry, bit of a rant coming) I don't think Ireland really does great cities, in terms of attractiveness/transport, unfortunately. Great postcard villages, castles, cultural history and the like, but not really great cities.

In saying that though, many cities on the island do have lots of unleashed potential. I just don't think people will ever muster up the pride to do anything about it. People seem to think other major European cities just look the way they do without any effort and that cities here are doomed to be ugly.
I know my friends and family would describe Dublin as an ugly city, but have never actually bothered their ass to step inside Dublin Castle's courtyard or Trinity's Parliament Square.
Until people take a bit of pride in our cities I don't think this is a problem that will be going away any time soon.

However, I do think Dublin's amazing. Love the seaside towns, the bay, the moutains and the people/nightlife.

Kilkenny's a nice little city too...

Dublin and Belfast are the only two cities on the island tbh, Cork is pushing it.

Id agree nordisk that people dont have enough pride in their city. I would not call Dublin as a whole ugly, though there are some ugly places no doubt - I think there needs to be more of an effort to make the city cleaner, including cleaning buildings, removing nasty signage and taking care of those goddam street boxes.

So much potential there too, I agree, with hopefully a new rail network soon enough it will really open up the city.

Really want to visit Belfast, havnt gotten around to it yet though.

Ooh you said "Derry" - your in trouble now.....beware the wrath of Belfastuniguy's "factual" rants ;)

Bitchslap for me

Dublin and Belfast are the only two cities on the island tbh, Cork is pushing it.


Agreed :D

Though Cork does have the republic's tallest building.....poor form Dublin....tut tut!!

Seriously what defines the "greatest city". It could be for tourism, arts, culture, infrastructure, landmarks etc...

For overall greatness I pick Galway. Anyone that picks Dublin or Cork ahead of it needs their head examined.

Given the majority of voters are from those areas then it makes the whole poll pointless.

I also like Galway, it just has a nice vibrancy to it. I last visited Cork when I was 10, but then I can remember it being nice. Dublin is a nice city, there is a great atmosphere about Dublin. Derry is also quite a nice city, I always feel that it is like a museum piece. As For my home city of Belfast, I nearly think it is hard to compare it with other Irish cities, it is more like Glasgow, Liverpool or Manchester (any city north of the Midlands really). In that sense Belfast is quite an attractive city but the scars of the troubles have ruined some beautiful Buildings - Rebuild the facades!!!!

The atmosphere in Dublin is electric.

I said Galway,

In all fairness, theres only really 3 cities in this island.

Dublin, Belfast and Cork (pushin it)

I like Galway, particularly the city centre - Eyre Square and the pedestrianised streets have a great vibrancy to them....the city really felt like it punched above its weight/size. Not so keen on built environment once you go out a bit however, especially ugly housing estates surrounding the city around the ring road etc

Belfast and Dublin are neck and neck. Get yer votes in....

Ah in fairness I think it's because most people visiting the Ireland thread are from the North :)

Won't be surprised if Belfast edges in front as a result!

Ah in fairness I think it's because most people visiting the Ireland thread are from the North :)

Won't be surprised if Belfast edges in front as a result!

Just gave Dublin a lil nudge forward

I love Dublin, I think it is an amazing city, the centre is a glistening shining example of prosperity both past and present and I hope the current economic situation is only a blip in its progress.

There is no comparing Dublin and Belfast on these terms, Dublin has had years of investment, a number of licks of paint and previously quoted tax incentives, etc.

But the question here isn't which is the most impressive city, and for that reason it is easy for me to say that Belfast is far and away my favourite city in Ireland.

It still has a lot of problems, little activity in the city centre at night, scars of the troubles, peacelines, etc. however it has a buzz about it, with people (although they slag it senseless) feeling proud to say they come from here and proud that it has such extremely positive responses from tourists/travel journals, even though we cannot understand what they are doing here in the first place.

I have lived in England for 2 years, Madrid for 4 and have travelled a fair bit, and have fallen in love with a lot of places, but I still get drawn back to Belfast either to live in or visit. Pubs and night clubs are still friendly and welcoming, we aren't too pretentious, people are friendly, we have a sarcastic dry wit and despite all the shit that has gone on here, people are realising what it is really like here.

The most famous irish city is Dublin, after that Belfast.

The most famous irish city is Dublin, after that Belfast.

Because Dublin is the capital of a European state, and Belfast is a regional British City. However apart from Guinness and stag parties what is Dublin famous for. I have to say there aint alot that springs to mind.

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Dublin metropolitan area has 1,600.000 inh. and Belfast metropolitan area 600.000

My capital city London has a met population of 13million, makes Dublin look like a village and is a world financial centre. Belfast is only a regional centre of the UK. So really Belfast should be compared to Cork, where there is no comparison.

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Of course, Belfast is much less than Dublin!

However apart from Guinness and stag parties what is Dublin famous for. I have to say there aint alot that springs to mind.

i suggest you open your eyes and take a trip to dublin.... plank ^^

i suggest you open your eyes and take a trip to dublin.... plank

Been there lovely old architecture, thanks to when it was British, Trinity College and all that. Really there is not alot to it as a European capital. Its legacy is all from the British era. As for the last 100 years not alot exciting about the place. Edinburgh is a much more exciting place with alot more energy. Belfast does not compare to Dublin but then its only a recent capital, and has been bombed by Nazis and Republicans so it hasn't alot going for it. I like Belfast for its size and all that.
So my list for great capital cities within the British Isles would be
1. London
2. Edinburgh
3. Belfast
4. Dublin (soon to rejoin the UK)
5. Cardiff

i suggest you open your eyes and take a trip to dublin.... plank ^^

No, please, you can keep him up there :ohno:

No, please, you can keep him up there

I pass by on the way to catch the Kingstown Ferry to Hollyhead.

I pass by on the way to catch the Kingstown Ferry to Holyhead.

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:)

The thing is I pronounce it the Kingstown to Hollyhead. Do you pronounce it 'Holyhead'. I always pronounce Holywood Co. Down Hollywood, what way do you? (considering you live very near there)

I think we're lucky to have two top class cities within 100 miles of each other. Whether you're from Belfast or Dublin you certainly never need to explain to anyone where you come from. Both cities have a fascinating (and yet very different) history, have beautiful geographic settings and offer a jam packed cultural calender.

Though with it's Apple store, Belfast is clearly better.

The thing is I pronounce it the Kingstown to Hollyhead. Do you pronounce it 'Holyhead'. I always pronounce Holywood Co. Down Hollywood, what way do you? (considering you live very near there)

Doesn't matter how you pronounce it, that counts for nothing when it comes to correctly spelling the word.

Otherwise our litertaure would look utterly ridiculous with missing letters, extra letters and rather incomprehensible in general.

Been there lovely old architecture, thanks to when it was British, Trinity College and all that. Really there is not alot to it as a European capital. Its legacy is all from the British era. As for the last 100 years not alot exciting about the place. Edinburgh is a much more exciting place with alot more energy. Belfast does not compare to Dublin but then its only a recent capital, and has been bombed by Nazis and Republicans so it hasn't alot going for it. I like Belfast for its size and all that.
So my list for great capital cities within the British Isles would be
1. London
2. Edinburgh
3. Belfast
4. Dublin (soon to rejoin the UK)
5. Cardiff

Umm...

No, please, you can keep him up there :ohno:

:lol: Id actually love to talk to this guy in person, I wonder can he actually be as deluded as he seems.

I pass by on the way to catch the Kingstown Ferry to Hollyhead.

Still with this? Call it what you will, its still a great place in Dublin. Though im surprise pedant uniguy let you away with it ;)

I think we're lucky to have two top class cities within 100 miles of each other. Whether you're from Belfast or Dublin you certainly never need to explain to anyone where you come from. Both cities have a fascinating (and yet very different) history, have beautiful geographic settings and offer a jam packed cultural calender.

Agreed, still too broke to visit Belfast :/ someday...

Though with it's Apple store, Belfast is clearly better.

Damn you.

I think we're all a bit biased though, no place like home tbh. Hard without defining criteria... transport/24hr services/cultural events/apple stores.... I dont think size is the measure of a city.

I've been to all cities in Ireland apart from Derry, and can honestly say, hand on heart, that Dublin is by far the best IMO, and it's the only city in Ireland I would actually live in apart from maybe Galway. No other city in Ireland is as cosmopolitan or culturally diverse. There's a huge amount of great bars and restaurants in the city to choose from, and there's always something interesting going on be it theatre, exhibitions, shows etc. The atmosphere in the place in fantastic too. If you want to head away, there's a huge amount of destinations in Europe and the US to choose from in Dublin airport, that just aren't available from other airports in Ireland. The city has also become very multicultural too in the last 10 years or so which makes it even more interesting.

I know parts of the city have their problems, but there is absolutely no contest ! Dublin is the best.

Still with this? Call it what you will, its still a great place in Dublin. Though im surprise pedant uniguy let you away with it

Correcting Kingstown would not have been productive as Delta is a backward troll that enjoys winding Irish people up and such efforts on my part would have been counter-productive with him simply continuing as before.

Hes lives in a bubble.

Typical unionist evangelist

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Dublin metropolitan area has 1,600.000 inh. and Belfast metropolitan area 600.000

You should never compare cities by size or population. Eg Hong Kong and Mexico city as one of many examples (although actual city comparisons are down to personal opinion. The point is, a cities population or even size generally adds little to it's greatness.

This all depends on the criteria by which you make your measurement. Try getting sick in Dublin and see another side to the place. Take a trip to Dolphin's barn and check out the underbelly. I work in Dublin and see many smart things, but give me a Belfast citizen any day.

As for which one is more famous - that would be Belfast. The big thing that Belfast has, and Dublin lacks is an edge. We also have the sharper humour of course.

Dublin has the better roads etc, through years of scrounging from Europe, but ultimately it's a culchie capital and its residents are all bog-men with a chip on their shoulders about the demonstrably superior British. (now watch as they do their best imitations of a pond full of hungry carp)

Snailtrain, always the shit stirrer, you really are full of crap

Hes lives in a bubble.

Typical unionist evangelist

plank007

And you live in an even larger bubble-take a look at yourself.
Typical naive republican dreamer

Correcting Kingstown would not have been productive as Delta is a backward troll that enjoys

Kingstown is spelt correctly

The backward troll thing, you condemn anyone you does not worship your way of thinking. Now I for one do not worship, like you do, a lot of mainstream sciencific ideolodgy, if that makes me a backward troll then so be it.

Now I for one do not worship, like you do, a lot of mainstream sciencific ideolodgy, if that makes me a backward troll then so be it.

Well I'm glad you have finally realised you are a backward troll.

Well I'm glad you have finally realised you are a backward troll.

In your opinion. PS happy new year you arab

Lads dont fight, I totally agree that size doesnt matter. as a Limerick man im gona say Limerick but Metropolitain Cork is a close second. cork is so cool, has everything you need, its just like a small Dublin.

We Arabs don't celebrate the new year....different calender and all.....honestly, do you know anything :nuts:

cork is so cool, has everything you need, its just like a small Dublin.

Does it have IKEA?
Does it have direct scheduled flights to the USA?
Does it have House of Frazer?

plank007

And you live in an even larger bubble-take a look at yourself.
Typical naive republican dreamer

ye sure. idiot

You should never compare cities by size or population. Eg Hong Kong and Mexico city as one of many examples (although actual city comparisons are down to personal opinion. The point is, a cities population or even size generally adds little to it's greatness.

Agree with this, as I said earlier, but size does play a part indirectly... critical mass. If you have a sufficient population your city can support everything from small niche stores to ultralarge department stores. Size can bring with it diversity of population and with that come a multitude of cultural benefits (food, music, etc). 24hrs services also come into play, 24hr mcdonalds can be dead handy sometimes. Not to mention it lends viability to mass transit projects like metro and IC.

This all depends on the criteria by which you make your measurement. Try getting sick in Dublin and see another side to the place. Take a trip to Dolphin's barn and check out the underbelly. I work in Dublin and see many smart things, but give me a Belfast citizen any day.

As for which one is more famous - that would be Belfast. The big thing that Belfast has, and Dublin lacks is an edge. We also have the sharper humour of course.

Dublin has the better roads etc, through years of scrounging from Europe, but ultimately it's a culchie capital and its residents are all bog-men with a chip on their shoulders about the demonstrably superior British. (now watch as they do their best imitations of a pond full of hungry carp)

Umm, getting sick in Dublin is hardly an intimidating process... I have an excellent hospital down the road from me and another ridiculously high tech, plush one up the road if youre into splashing out.

Underbelly? You will find one in every city... go to right part of the city of love and I assure you, you will be more intimidated there and if you find an Irish person with an inferiority complex, it certainly wont be to the british :lol:

You love to play devils advocate eh?

In your opinion. PS happy new year you arab

Your idiocy speaks for itself, you and Snail should hang out.

Cork

Does it have IKEA?
Does it have direct scheduled flights to the USA?
Does it have House of Frazer?

It would be better placed in seeking to secure a House of Fraser:)

Your idiocy speaks for itself, you and Snail should hang out.

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Suprised Waterfront hasn't got a few more votes. Lovely place. Also Limerick aswell.

Hey, I look pretty good with a sword :D

you getting all upset because I didn't wish you a happy new year

...well it is only polite, but that can wait for our pints, like I said, I want to go to Belfast but im broke, so if ye spot me...

Been there lovely old architecture, thanks to when it was British, Trinity College and all that. Really there is not alot to it as a European capital. Its legacy is all from the British era. As for the last 100 years not alot exciting about the place. Edinburgh is a much more exciting place with alot more energy. Belfast does not compare to Dublin but then its only a recent capital, and has been bombed by Nazis and Republicans so it hasn't alot going for it. I like Belfast for its size and all that.
So my list for great capital cities within the British Isles would be
1. London
2. Edinburgh
3. Belfast
4. Dublin (soon to rejoin the UK)
5. Cardiff
LOL!
http://www.cromwell-intl.com/oliver/pictures/this-looks-like-a-troll.jpg

J4mesMcK

You must be blind, as that looks nothing like me, even with the hat off. Did you not see me in person switching the Christmas tree lights on at Belfast City Hall.

How has Galway got 6 votes? I've been to Galway and I found it a pretty standard, average city (or really, in all but name, a town)- with nothing particularly setting it apart from any other town in the British Isles. That's not to say it isn't a nice place, but how can it even be compared to Dublin, let alone be greater than it...

Cork has a certain charm to it, I would love to visit one day.