Sigh Angelusal...
I can tell you that this forum is the "happy SMDC customers' forum" where everyone should be happy with SMDC regardless of poor quality or lack of integrity. They expect the burden of proof to be on you when you complain or they will suspect that you're working for another development out to destroy SMDC's name...

IS THIS YOUR WEBSITE? then shut up... i'm sure your one of the agent of SMDC and Philippines is a free country so i can say what i want to say... if you finished at least college level, you will just shut up

thanks BAPHI for understanding...

TO THE OTHER WHO COMMENTED IRRELEVANTLY KINDLY READ MY TOPIC AGAIN ITS
"SM the GRASS residence bait and false advertisement"

@ningnicole - kindly view the pictures... thats my evidence. If the money came from your pocket ningnicole you should understand me right?
http://quezoncity.olx.com.ph/item_pa...d=81354199&g=6 -TO CHECK THE PICTURE...

Sigh Angelusal...
I can tell you that this forum is the "happy SMDC customers' forum" where everyone should be happy with SMDC regardless of poor quality or lack of integrity. They expect the burden of proof to be on you when you complain or they will suspect that you're working for another development out to destroy SMDC's name...

duh!??? this forum is the "happy SMDC customers' forum"? saan mo nakuha yan? everyone should be happy with SMDC regardless of poor quality or lack of integrity? that is the most stup!d thing i have ever read in a forum. wala pa yata akong nakikitang ganoon katanga na they should be happy regardless the developer gave you poor quality or your developer lack or lost its integrity. so you're saying ganoon ka and you think ganun din yun mga tao dito?

@ningnicole - kindly view the pictures... thats my evidence. If the money came from your pocket ningnicole you should understand me right?
http://quezoncity.olx.com.ph/item_pa...d=81354199&g=6 -TO CHECK THE PICTURE...

my comment is directly not for you.

Sigh Angelusal...
I can tell you that this forum is the "happy SMDC customers' forum" where everyone should be happy with SMDC regardless of poor quality or lack of integrity. They expect the burden of proof to be on you when you complain or they will suspect that you're working for another development out to destroy SMDC's name...

I think he is just being sarcastic and didn't mean it to be a "happy smdc forum"

guys read again...

if I remember it right, rob7777 has complains with his unit too

@wantacondo thank u for pointing that out. it seems i misunderstood rob7777's post.

@rob7777 sorry man. my bad. i was aware may nagpost ng problem sa mezza re finishing but i didn't know ikaw pala yun. i just read ur recent post that ganun yun impression sa akin. better rephrase it a little. but still it's my mistake. sorry.

sigh...
anyway, no worries guys, no harm done to me personally. But this will be my last post here in this particular forum. I was going to post some pics of my unit after it's completely renovated, but nevermind.
It's pointless if people do not get the point.
Good luck to you all...

@rob7777 about your problem, wala pa bang resolution si SMDC dun? i thought naayos na. can't you make a request ilinya nila ng maigi yun pipes ng unit mo? you still have 1 year para makapagreklamo kung sakaling magkaproblema. check mo na lang pag tagulan na. kung may ingay ng daloy ng tubig or may tulo.

i know how you feel and why the post. sorry again.

sigh...
anyway, no worries guys, no harm done to me personally. But this will be my last post here in this particular forum. I was going to post some pics of my unit after it's completely renovated, but nevermind.
It's pointless if people do not get the point.
Good luck to you all...



ei bro hope you'd still post your opinions here, 'love to hear from you

@wantacondo thank u for pointing that out. it seems i misunderstood rob7777's post.

@rob7777 sorry man. my bad. i was aware may nagpost ng problem sa mezza re finishing but i didn't know ikaw pala yun. i just read ur recent post that ganun yun impression sa akin. better rephrase it a little. but still it's my mistake. sorry.


yeah it's just a simple joke that rob7777 posted thus he meant the other way :)

masyado lang tayo lahat seryoso :)

I just met with baphi near the pool area. Aziza was here yesterday but i was in MOA with my kids. Kahapon pa lang kami nag sign ng deed of sale ng husband ko. Baphi and I walked around the amenities. Masarap mag jogging sa umaga. And kids can play soccer, volleyball and badminton sa grassy area. Wala pa yung ibang amenities like play ground ng kids and gym but since they are not yet charging association dues - ang sarap ng free elevator, pool use, security, housekeeping, etc!

may mga nakatira na sa tower 3 and 4. looks like up to 20+ plus as i can see lights and curtains. i will find time to take latest pics to post here.

I just met with baphi near the pool area. Aziza was here yesterday but i was in MOA with my kids. Kahapon pa lang kami nag sign ng deed of sale ng husband ko. Baphi and I walked around the amenities. Masarap mag jogging sa umaga. And kids can play soccer, volleyball and badminton sa grassy area. Wala pa yung ibang amenities like play ground ng kids and gym but since they are not yet charging association dues - ang sarap ng free elevator, pool use, security, housekeeping, etc!


Wow! Thats great! Sana magtagal pa eto na free!

I just met with baphi near the pool area. Aziza was here yesterday but i was in MOA with my kids. Kahapon pa lang kami nag sign ng deed of sale ng husband ko. Baphi and I walked around the amenities. Masarap mag jogging sa umaga. And kids can play soccer, volleyball and badminton sa grassy area. Wala pa yung ibang amenities like play ground ng kids and gym but since they are not yet charging association dues - ang sarap ng free elevator, pool use, security, housekeeping, etc!

Hi ning,just got back from the phils.Thanks for showing me around,very nice family and unit you have there ,so pretty children.I wish we had bonded a little longer hahaha.The biko that was cooked by your tatay is so good I brought it sa japan.I am so happy I had a kapitbahay like you.
Inspite of their speculations,we are actually enjoying our community.
Sana maulit and take care s on your going back to Abu Dabi:banana:
I wanna thank Aziza too,this is OT but because of Mezza I met a lot of friends.

Hi ning,just got back from the phils.Thanks for showing me around,very nice family and unit you have there ,so pretty children.I wish we had bonded a little longer hahaha.The biko that was cooked by your tatay is so good I brought it sa japan.I am so happy I had a kapitbahay like you.
Inspite of their speculations,we are actually enjoying our community.
Sana maulit and take care s on your going back to Abu Dabi:banana:
I wanna thank Aziza too,this is OT but because of Mezza I met a lot of friends.

good your safely back! it was really nice meeting you. i can say parehas lang tayong simpleng tao kaya nakakatuwa. good nagustuhan mo ang biko ni tatay.

nga pala i just checked kanina if ano na updates sa gym. originally its planned to be in 6th floor pero all DAW yun is function rooms na. ang gym daw sa 2nd floor na which i dont know how we can have good access kasi 3rd and 4th floor ang parking at di ako sure if we can go to 2nd floor thru our elevator. i will check on this before ako bumalik ng UAE.

kanina lang ako nag swimming at i just found out how good my kids can swim na thru free swimming lessons sa mga lifeguard. i saw some tenants kanina na nagpapaturo ng swimming.

^^ wow this community sounds great! sayang di ako bumili dito nung less than 1m palang ang 1br dito.

^^ wow this community sounds great! sayang di ako bumili dito nung less than 1m palang ang 1br dito.

so refreshing to see this kind of conversation... honestly, since the heated discussion started in Light, medyo nawalan na ko ng interest magbasa ng forum... kahit na I want to look at it as a learning process... medyo draining lang ung paulit ulit na rant...
@ningnicole, i'm happy that ur enjoying with mezza... :)
@baphi, so ur out of the country pala... hehe, i was waiting for ur post in Light, hope that our future neighbor will also post din, para naman, this early, we can build a nice community na... :lol: hope to meet u all, kahit si ningnicole...
@superBoy - i think sa Jazz thread kita nababasa before... dun ka ba bumili?

^^ wow this community sounds great! sayang di ako bumili dito nung less than 1m palang ang 1br dito.

below 1M pala dati ?

^^yes, started around PhP990K lang preselling.

@prehtsel14, you can join Light Residences' facebook account created by Mr.Residences. You will see actual construction pics there. Galing nga,eh. May videos and interviews pa.

so refreshing to see this kind of conversation... honestly, since the heated discussion started in Light, medyo nawalan na ko ng interest magbasa ng forum... kahit na I want to look at it as a learning process... medyo draining lang ung paulit ulit na rant...


I agree :lol: :lol: :lol:

@superBoy - i think sa Jazz thread kita nababasa before... dun ka ba bumili?

yes, sa jazz ako bumili. and i agree with you na nakakapagod ang walang katapusang rants. ala pa rant na ng rant. paano na lang pag nandyan na? mas maganda ang tahimik at just be happy with what you purchased diba? :banana:

yes, sa jazz ako bumili. and i agree with you na nakakapagod ang walang katapusang rants. ala pa rant na ng rant. paano na lang pag nandyan na? mas maganda ang tahimik at just be happy with what you purchased diba? :banana:

hay true yan! masyado nakakasakit ng ulo - OA na kasi. parang laging may debate at pagalingan ng sasabihin.

may new pics ako taken from my mobile phone pero di ko nadala cable ko so after pagbalik ko na lang sa UAE sa saturday ako mag down load. just shoots of current situation in mezza. what i enjoyed very much now is nakakaikot na ako sa amenities sa 5th floor. i like the plants surrounding the towers para kang wala sa downtown manila. though yung black fountain is not working - mukhang may repair pa - the plants are good in the eyes and as buffer.

arent the buyers here not satisfied? m hearing complains kasi particularly turnover of fully furnished units

arent the buyers here not satisfied? m hearing complains kasi particularly turnover of fully furnished units

fully furnished units in mezza? first time i heard it. or you mean sa ibang smdc properties? wala kasing fully furnisged units. back read ka na lang regarding buyers complains and "satisfaction".

^^yes, started around PhP990K lang preselling.

@prehtsel14, you can join Light Residences' facebook account created by Mr.Residences. You will see actual construction pics there. Galing nga,eh. May videos and interviews pa.

sayang di tayo nagkita ng personal! hope we could later...

Great neighborhood with friendly neighbours...sarap naman dito sa mezza. may free use pa ng amenities. I was seriously thinking of getting a unit here before since i grew up around the area, it's just so happened na nakakuha na din ako ng isa pang property along aurora blvd. kaya para maiba naman napunta tuloy ako sa Grass. Pero mukhang pagsisissihan ko yata 'yung desisyon na yun ah.....he he he :banana::banana::banana::lol::lol::lol:

sa turnover, ano po ba ibibigay nilang documents , may title ba?

Great neighborhood with friendly neighbours...sarap naman dito sa mezza. may free use pa ng amenities. I was seriously thinking of getting a unit here before since i grew up around the area, it's just so happened na nakakuha na din ako ng isa pang property along aurora blvd. kaya para maiba naman napunta tuloy ako sa Grass. Pero mukhang pagsisissihan ko yata 'yung desisyon na yun ah.....he he he :banana::banana::banana::lol::lol::lol:

free wifi din sa 5th floor galing saan saang source. hehe pero maglalagay din daw ang sm management mismo sa 5th floor naman. di pa din naman perfect sa mezza, wala pa nga gym, tv cable in 1-2mos pa daw, kulang pa mga playground amenities ng kids. pero since libre nga ang association dues since May, di naman ok na umangal.

Few pictures taken from Mezza:

In 6th floor which I heard will become function rooms na lang and the Gym will be a private one to be located in 2nd floor. If true, this is not good kasi unit owners dont have direct access to 2nd floor. The only way to go there is go out of the building and I have not seen any entrance yet to 2nd floor. Aside from that provision of Gym though not clearly stated as FREE is listed as one of the condo amenities.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/279/6thfloorfunctionroomsor.jpg (http://img408.imageshack.us/i/6thfloorfunctionroomsor.jpg/)

I've seen this working before (September 2009) but saw it not working now.
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4410/blackfountainunderrepai.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/blackfountainunderrepai.jpg/)


The mini parks on the 5th floor are nice places to stay around.
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9215/miniparkin5thfloor.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/i/miniparkin5thfloor.jpg/)

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4193/mysonq.jpg (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/mysonq.jpg/)

And these walkways na naging jogging paths.
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/446/walkways2.jpg (http://img39.imageshack.us/i/walkways2.jpg/)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8829/walkwaysin5thfloor.jpg (http://img186.imageshack.us/i/walkwaysin5thfloor.jpg/)

free wifi din sa 5th floor galing saan saang source. hehe pero maglalagay din daw ang sm management mismo sa 5th floor naman. di pa din naman perfect sa mezza, wala pa nga gym, tv cable in 1-2mos pa daw, kulang pa mga playground amenities ng kids. pero since libre nga ang association dues since May, di naman ok na umangal.

Hi, 1-2 months pa daw po ang tv cable? may idea po ba kayo kung anong tv cable company? Thanks!

Hi, 1-2 months pa daw po ang tv cable? may idea po ba kayo kung anong tv cable company? Thanks!

Destiny daw.

sa turnover, ano po ba ibibigay nilang documents , may title ba?

up.....

up.....

based on my experience, may pinapirmahan lang sila na acceptance nung turnover. pero yung mga documents pertaining sa bahay wala pa. as indicated here, itong paguwi ko lang recently kami nakapirma ng asawa ko ng deed of sale then yung condo title later pa daw talaga. then few months after turnover we got the HOA documents na isang thick folder about our unit, etc. whilst according to baphi last year pa siya nakapirma sa deed of sale at nakuha HOA documents niya. to sum up, i think yun and documents you should expect.

Sobra naman ang parking rate dyan sa harap ng Save More, P25 first hour, P25 succeeding hours. wtf!

Sobra naman ang parking rate dyan sa harap ng Save More, P25 first hour, P25 succeeding hours. wtf!

ay di ko po napansin. pa check ko nga sa tatay ko bukas. buti pala may parking slot. di ka ba kumuha?

ay di ko po napansin. pa check ko nga sa tatay ko bukas. buti pala may parking slot. di ka ba kumuha?

di ko pa ito napapacheck sa tatay ko ha kasi umuwi ng province. will post it here as soon maconfirm ko sa kanya. and yeah if ganun nga charges nila - thats too much! at alam ko walang overnight parking dyan because nun umuwi ako 2 weeks ago, i tried to park overnight kahit magbayad ako pero wala daw til 11pm lang daw sila. i have my parking slot na pinapa rent ko muna and i cant take it from them dahil lang gagamitin ko ng 2 weeks.

Sobra naman ang parking rate dyan sa harap ng Save More, P25 first hour, P25 succeeding hours. wtf!

Yeah, you are correct. I saw the parking rate signage.

@ningnicole, how much pa-rent mo ng parking?

Yeah, you are correct. I saw the parking rate signage.

@ningnicole, how much pa-rent mo ng parking?

3500/mo then i shoulder the assoc dues na di pa naman implemented til now :lol: it should be 4k pero nanghingi kasi ng discount yung kapitbahay ko so sige na nga lang.

Hi there. Have 2 units in Tower3. Have any of you there encountered problems with floor tiles being chipped and hollow (workers call it kapak)? Will SMDC replace this? We signed the acceptance form just so we could get the keys as we were excited to move in, but now we were advised by neighbors about the tiles.
Would appreciate info/advice from anyone.

Hi there. Have 2 units in Tower3. Have any of you there encountered problems with floor tiles being chipped and hollow (workers call it kapak)? Will SMDC replace this? We signed the acceptance form just so we could get the keys as we were excited to move in, but now we were advised by neighbors about the tiles.
Would appreciate info/advice from anyone.

"Kapak" happens when the floor is uneven, not enough tile cement/adhesive or poor workmanship by "mason". DIY or get them to replace it, ask SMDC kung ano ang specs ng ginamit nilang tiles. Kadalasan din na kapag inalis mo ang isang tile nadadamay na rin ang iba, kaya ingatan mo na hindi magalaw ang mga katabing tiles.

Hi there. Have 2 units in Tower3. Have any of you there encountered problems with floor tiles being chipped and hollow (workers call it kapak)? Will SMDC replace this? We signed the acceptance form just so we could get the keys as we were excited to move in, but now we were advised by neighbors about the tiles.
Would appreciate info/advice from anyone.

Ideally sana naraise mo ito sa kanila during punchlisting. Kasi they allow naman na magka acceptance subject to items they need to improve/change. It happened to me na yung bathroom mirror ko may part na di glossy and they changed it kahit nakalipat na kami.

I suggest irequest mo ito asap sa kanila na palitan saying na you just want to move in immediately kaya you did not made a big deal out of it during punchlisting. Good luck!

Hi there. Have 2 units in Tower3. Have any of you there encountered problems with floor tiles being chipped and hollow (workers call it kapak)? Will SMDC replace this? We signed the acceptance form just so we could get the keys as we were excited to move in, but now we were advised by neighbors about the tiles.
Would appreciate info/advice from anyone.

i think may 1 year warranty naman sila. better inform them na lang asap.

When I was there,I noticed staffs always changing tiles in the morning.When asked, they said its their job to change cracked or damaged tiles in common areas,hallways.
If they can do that to such areas,they can probably help you change your tiles in your unit lalo na katuturn over palang just inform admin.

SCUD: thanks for your advice. They have removed some of the tiles, however, as you said, the adjoining tiles have been damaged in the process - either chipped or also becoming hollow sounding. I've requested that they use a grinder to remove the now-damaged tiles to prevent damaging other tiles.

To be fair, SMDC or rather the CREB people have acted quite fast, with a gentle nudge from yours truly.

kaya nga ba papalitan ko yung tiles ng condo ko to wood floors ... very unreliable kasi yung tiles ... nababasag AT dumudumi yung grout over time.

Hi Baphi and Ningnicole ... kamusta na kayo? ngayon lang ako ulit nakabwisita dito hehehe ... Magkakaron kami ng furlough days sa work so baka atlast maka-uwi na din ako!

Take care ladies!

kaya nga ba papalitan ko yung tiles ng condo ko to wood floors ... very unreliable kasi yung tiles ... nababasag AT dumudumi yung grout over time.

Hi Baphi and Ningnicole ... kamusta na kayo? ngayon lang ako ulit nakabwisita dito hehehe ... Magkakaron kami ng furlough days sa work so baka atlast maka-uwi na din ako!

Take care ladies!

hmm parang gusto ko din magpalit ha. :cheers: may tv cable na sa mezza, at last! enjoy your holiday! its your turn!

kaya nga ba papalitan ko yung tiles ng condo ko to wood floors ... very unreliable kasi yung tiles ... nababasag AT dumudumi yung grout over time.

Hi Baphi and Ningnicole ... kamusta na kayo? ngayon lang ako ulit nakabwisita dito hehehe ... Magkakaron kami ng furlough days sa work so baka atlast maka-uwi na din ako!

Take care ladies!

Hi jma,happy to hear from you again.Ayan makikita mo na ang community natin.I know mageenjoy ka rin kasi everything is w/in your reach.
Pag naayos share naman ng pics sis.Are you going to rent it out?Andami nagiinquire kasi pasukan na.Meantime enjoy mo muna magdeep sa pool and jogging sa umaga.Those are just few to enjoy.
God bless.

Hello sa inyong lahat!!! at last me acceptance na ako 5 bags na dugo ang nasayang sa akin.... grabe talaga ang sm management sa customer relations dept....totoo iyun mahirap makipag usap sa kanila sa akin na ang investment at nagbabayad naman ako pinahihirapan pa nila... late na late na nga ang turn over nila... dapat November 2009 ang turn over ng t3 n t4 very poor very weak ang staff ng smdc customer relations department...... at isa pa ilang beses ang punch listing ko diyan bungi bungi ang tiles... kaya kahit bungi bungi iyan i aacept ko na iyan lumalakad ang araw.. ako na mismo ang magpapagawa ng mga tiles.... sa t4 pala ako...... totoo pala ang mga complaints nila ganun din ako nag resign na rin yung kausap ko dun ( back read)... pag me problema nde sila nag rereply sa e mail ang hirap tumawag sa kanila......hanggang sa dumating na gusto ko ng mag back out diyan sa investment ko na iyan sa buisit ko.....kaya yung gustong maka move in agad mag follow up kayo sa personally punta kayo dun moa sa bldg. nila level 4...grabe ang experience ko diyan sa MEZZA na iyan.....:bash:

Hello sa inyong lahat!!! at last me acceptance na ako 5 bags na dugo ang nasayang sa akin.... grabe talaga ang sm management sa customer relations dept....totoo iyun mahirap makipag usap sa kanila sa akin na ang investment at nagbabayad naman ako pinahihirapan pa nila... late na late na nga ang turn over nila... dapat November 2009 ang turn over ng t3 n t4 very poor very weak ang staff ng smdc customer relations department...... at isa pa ilang beses ang punch listing ko diyan bungi bungi ang tiles... kaya kahit bungi bungi iyan i aacept ko na iyan lumalakad ang araw.. ako na mismo ang magpapagawa ng mga tiles.... sa t4 pala ako...... totoo pala ang mga complaints nila ganun din ako nag resign na rin yung kausap ko dun ( back read)... pag me problema nde sila nag rereply sa e mail ang hirap tumawag sa kanila......hanggang sa dumating na gusto ko ng mag back out diyan sa investment ko na iyan sa buisit ko.....kaya yung gustong maka move in agad mag follow up kayo sa personally punta kayo dun moa sa bldg. nila level 4...grabe ang experience ko diyan sa MEZZA na iyan.....:bash:

:bash: nakupo. sa pinas ka lang ba rowena o abroad pa galing? bakit tagal nga inabot. anong floor ka ba? kasi by floor yan sila mag turnover. dapat dagdag sila ng qualified staff para maentertain mga unit owners sa ganyan lalo na now dami na nilang properties.

I just spoke to my cousin last night regarding my unit, super bagal daw talaga mag respond ng SM tapos nga nagpalit na ng management dahil marami na daw ang umalis. Biro mo tatanggalin lang yung maliit ng wall sa unit ko inaabot pa ng syam syam. kaya push na daw ng cousin ko na maayos na kasi marami nga daw ang gustong mag rent ng unit. Wag ko na muna daw pa change ang flooring at bathroom tiles kasi papa rent ko lang naman.

Hi Baphi! kamusta na? di ko pa sure kelan ako uuwi kasi iniisip ko super init daw sa pinas ngayon baka di makayanan ng anak ko pag sinama ko. So baka Nov/Dec na lang kami uuwi pag di na syado mainit. Take care and Lord bless!

I just spoke to my cousin last night regarding my unit, super bagal daw talaga mag respond ng SM tapos nga nagpalit na ng management dahil marami na daw ang umalis. Biro mo tatanggalin lang yung maliit ng wall sa unit ko inaabot pa ng syam syam. kaya push na daw ng cousin ko na maayos na kasi marami nga daw ang gustong mag rent ng unit. Wag ko na muna daw pa change ang flooring at bathroom tiles kasi papa rent ko lang naman.

Hi Baphi! kamusta na? di ko pa sure kelan ako uuwi kasi iniisip ko super init daw sa pinas ngayon baka di makayanan ng anak ko pag sinama ko. So baka Nov/Dec na lang kami uuwi pag di na syado mainit. Take care and Lord bless!

wow looks oks talaga yung rental business nyo jma. si baphi din di nwawalan ng tenant. napapaisip tuloy ako get pa ng 1 unit. maybe next year na lang.

anyone interested to buy my unit rush sale kaya mura ko na binebenta, its a one bedroom unit sa tower 1 9th floor. pls do contact me at noblehouse_struan@yahoo.com or 09159838377 sa mga interested...

uhm,, if i may ask, why are you selling your unit sir?

anyone interested to buy my unit rush sale kaya mura ko na binebenta, its a one bedroom unit sa tower 1 9th floor. pls do contact me at noblehouse_struan@yahoo.com or 09159838377 sa mga interested...

How much are you selling it? Is this a T-shaped 1 bedroom?

How much are you selling it? Is this a T-shaped 1 bedroom?

What is a T-shaped 1 bedroom? Mine kasi is not the same as the 1 bedroom model, it's a corner one next to the elevator, so more windows in kitchen AND bedroom.

@NING, naku di ko pa nga alam kung profitable nga. Wala pa naman akong renter. Sabi ng cousin ko wag ko muna daw ayusin at papa-rent ko lang, baka daw masira lang din ng renter. So bili na lang ako muna ng kama, refrigerator at aircon.

Sa mga nasa ibang bansa, how do you pay your utilities? Can you pay thru online banking if you have an bank account sa Phils? I have BDO, but I dont see any option to pay bills. Disconnected lahat ng utilities ko kasi walang nakatira and I dont know how to pay it from the US.

Salamat sa mag re-respond.

@jma yes, ung t shaped unit that im referring to is the same type as yours. maganda yang unit mo! we were supposed to get that type of unit too cos akala namen dati baka pede xia i connect sa two bedroom unit namen (unit 11). kaso hinde e kasi column wall ata ung asa pagitan so nde pede butasin. ganda ng unit mo. better than common one bedroom unit because of many windows! :D

How much ang rental ng one bedroom kaya diyan and selling

may nag oofer na agent sa tower 4 facing amenities one bedroom 2.2M 24flr... ok ba ang price

^^Resale ba?

yes resale siya furnished na siya with kitchen cabinet aircon hood range stove dining buffet table bed

How much ang rental ng one bedroom kaya diyan and selling

12-14k i heard ang rental ng 1br. depende gano ka furnished. selling not less than 2M.

Hi to evryone first tym ko magcomment d2, I was just surprise to see ung comment ni Ms. Rowena....I paid the full amount of the condo in Grass recidences at tulad ng sinabi ni Ms. Rowena, sasabog ang utak ko s galit at sama ng loob...Ako na nga ang magbabayad ako pa ang maghahabol s kanila..Kc ayaw nila ng full payment at gusto eh iloloan s kanila...4 times ako nagvisit s office nila s MOA...Kung di p ako magwawala dun eh di p ako papayagang magbayad...Bwisit ang management nila nakakdala, considering na padalawa n naming UNIT un..until now after paying in full after two years ung sa chatteau eh wala p rin kami title or deed of sale or proof ng ownership ng condo......

im sure either kahit saang residences ng SM eh bulok ang service nila, umuwi lang ako ng PINAS para ayusin ang payment kc sumuko na ang dakila kong ina na bumalik dun kc wala dw me alam ng gagawin...Magaling lang manggawa ng projects pero walang kwenta ang service nila s tao or investors....

Hi there. Bad trip talaga makipagdeal sa SMDC. We gave up on them ever fixing our tiles properly sa unit namin. We'll have it replaced later na lang.
But just wanted to say na ung turn over ng units namin sa Eton One Archer's Place was such a pleasure (my wife attended to it as I am out of country). Sure there were some issues with tiles and bad finishes; but, the Costumer Relations was there and readily agreed to have all the issues dealt with asap. There were even free snacks for the tenants who were there to inspect their unit! What a big big difference from SM.

any development na sa inyo guys? di pa din natuturnover? mahina nga sa customers relations ang SM, in general, sa amin dati na ilan pa lang kaming for turnover nagkakaproblem na, lalo ka siguro now na for towers 3 and 4. though may iba na smooth naman like nakasabay ko na from Canada then Japan then mga tga within Manila lang. baka depende din sa staff na nagaasssist.

OK ... its official ... my condo is for sale. Magkano ba bentahan ng 1 bedroom 22 sq meter unit ngayon? Yung unit ko nasa corner next to the elevator and has a lot of windows both in the room and the kitchen. Tower 1, 37th floor. Sabi "T-shaped unit" daw. Email me at jma030201@yahoo.com. Thanks.

OK ... its official ... my condo is for sale. Magkano ba bentahan ng 1 bedroom 22 sq meter unit ngayon? Yung unit ko nasa corner next to the elevator and has a lot of windows both in the room and the kitchen. Tower 1, 37th floor. Sabi "T-shaped unit" daw. Email me at jma030201@yahoo.com. Thanks.


magkano po at paano yun payment terms? Thanks po.

just wondering... na-ideliver ba lahat ng amenities dito sa mezza? naglagay na ba ng fitness gym dito?

http://www.smresidences.com/smresidences/index.php?p=1232

RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND AMENITIES
• Swimming Pool
• Fitness Gym
• Playground Area
• Outdoor Function Area and M-Bar
• Garden with Gazebos
• Lawn and Barbeque Area
• Wi-Fi enabled Common Area in 5th Floor Amenity Level

just wondering... na-ideliver ba lahat ng amenities dito sa mezza? naglagay na ba ng fitness gym dito?

http://www.smresidences.com/smresidences/index.php?p=1232

RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND AMENITIES
• Swimming Pool
• Fitness Gym
• Playground Area
• Outdoor Function Area and M-Bar
• Garden with Gazebos
• Lawn and Barbeque Area
• Wi-Fi enabled Common Area in 5th Floor Amenity Level

wala pang fitness gym as of April 2010. last year sabi magkaka gym na free for all at yung may bayad ang use sa may 6th floor - according to agents. then last i heard it will be placed sa 3rd floor sa taas daw ng mga restaurants which we need to go out pa of the building para makagamit - not confirmed - according to some agents. also heard na yung space sa 3rd floor now will become function rooms na lang - not confirmed - according to security personnel.

hope pag may functional condo owners association officers eh maayos ito na dapat ay meron. anyway, they are not yet charging assoc dues since May lat year both for condo units and parking slots. sana madeliver muna nila all before they start charging assoc dues.

i hope they deliver their promise. kung may fitness gym na may bayad, dapat iba yun. kasi hindi mo naman masasabi na amenities kung third party ang nagprovide at magpapalakad.

anyways, i saw may billboard sa harap ng mezza. i think along aurora blvd and araneta ave. for sure paparent nila yun space for billboard. naka-set-up na pati spot light. may usapan na ba kanino mapupunta yun income doon? sa HOA ba or SMDC?

i hope they deliver their promise. kung may fitness gym na may bayad, dapat iba yun. kasi hindi mo naman masasabi na amenities kung third party ang nagprovide at magpapalakad. agree na ako dun sa may free use then if magka roon din ng may bayad basta ba may % and assoc oks lang.

anyways, i saw may billboard sa harap ng mezza. i think along aurora blvd and araneta ave. for sure paparent nila yun space for billboard. naka-set-up na pati spot light. may usapan na ba kanino mapupunta yun income doon? sa HOA ba or SMDC? no idea.

ang sabi sa akin there are about 3 huge billboards that seems to be in front of the mezza. my friend took a photo yesterday yata. libre daw kasi yun sakay niya sa mrt. sabi there are 2 huge billboards space at aurora blvd and 1 huge billboard at araneta. magandang income generating business yun di ba?

here is the pic.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4751080031_8534c4fe1b_b.jpg

the question is, sino yun naglagay ng space for billboard? HOA or SMDC?

if HOA, kudos to you. malaking pera yun rents sa ads sa billboard, for sure liliit yun mga asso dues ninyo. if si SMDC yung naglagay, is it proper? di ba supposed to be mezza should be turned over to HOA? kung si SMDC yun naglabas ng capital, paano ang hati? pinag-meeting-an na ba yan ng mga owners ng mezza?

magkano po at paano yun payment terms? Thanks po.


Sorry di ako nakasagot agad ... bc kasi .... you need to get your own loan kasi fully paid na tong condo ko and I dont have any balances anywhere. Ang sabi sa akin nasa 2.3M daw na ngayon tong 1bedroom lalo na daw at maganda layout ng unit ko dahil maaliwalas, maraming bintana, but I can consider best offer. Uuwi ako sa August para sana ayusin yung unit para magamit namin (i.e. upgrade the tiles, buy appliances and furniture) but plans changed and I need to sell it. I am considering a townhouse instead sa mandaluyong area. So I will sign up with realtors sa August na lang to sell the unit quick. Dami daw naghahanap kasi nga katabi ng schools ... lalo na daw yung mga mayayaman na Iranians.

Hope that helps.

ang sabi sa akin there are about 3 huge billboards that seems to be in front of the mezza. my friend took a photo yesterday yata. libre daw kasi yun sakay niya sa mrt. sabi there are 2 huge billboards space at aurora blvd and 1 huge billboard at araneta. magandang income generating business yun di ba?

the question is, sino yun naglagay ng space for billboard? HOA or SMDC?

if HOA, kudos to you. malaking pera yun rents sa ads sa billboard, for sure liliit yun mga asso dues ninyo. if si SMDC yung naglagay, is it proper? di ba supposed to be mezza should be turned over to HOA? kung si SMDC yun naglabas ng capital, paano ang hati? pinag-meeting-an na ba yan ng mga owners ng mezza?

wala pa ako nabalitaang functional or voted na HOA. pero may existing/acting HOA since last year. i have no idea on these billboards but offhand, idea ko dito is most likely SMDC property ito. i dont think mezza unit owners association will get chunks from income sa rental/operations ng establishments around mezza i.e. starbucks, bench saloon, banks, etc. I have a feeling na sa SMDC itong businesses na ito. pero if ang mechanism is is they will share something to mezza residents assoc then thats good. kasi in the 1st place, we did not spend anything for these establishments.

pero within the boundaries ng mezza residences like the amenities (pools, gazebos, gym, functions rooms) yung mga fees na nakukuha nila even sa mga mga lumilipat, that is but right na dapat eh sa assoc mapunta kasi it directly affects the residents. i clearly heard bout this sa CBRE dati na all fees they are getting sa mga lumilipat, pool fees sa mga outsiders, rent ng gazebos, etc will be assoc money kaya yung 60/sqm will go down daw.

i am wondering, ano ba yun property na pag-aari ng mga home owners ng mezza? hindi ba buong building ng mezza? or may mga part lang? naka-specify ba ito clearly sa master deed? so paano yun hatian sa perpetual ownership?

also from what i know, kung pagaari mo yun building, if may gumastos for improvement doon, i know wala pa ring habol yun gumastos kasi they made improvements sa hindi nila property. puwede pa nga sila idemanda if walang knowledge or permission ng owner. more so, whatever income that one generates may rights ka doon kasi ikaw ang property owner. of course depende yun sa usapan, like kung ano yun hatian or magbabayad sila ng rent. tama ba?

i am wondering, ano ba yun property na pag-aari ng mga home owners ng mezza? hindi ba buong building ng mezza? or may mga part lang? naka-specify ba ito clearly sa master deed? so paano yun hatian sa perpetual ownership?

also from what i know, kung pagaari mo yun building, if may gumastos for improvement doon, i know wala pa ring habol yun gumastos kasi they made improvements sa hindi nila property. puwede pa nga sila idemanda if walang knowledge or permission ng owner. more so, whatever income that one generates may rights ka doon kasi ikaw ang property owner. of course depende yun sa usapan, like kung ano yun hatian or magbabayad sila ng rent. tama ba?

no idea bout exact boundary ng mezza. i did not bothered to check on the docs given to us which my parents are keeping now. the docs surely have the coordinates of the property and though not sure, my strong feeling is within the mezza residences amenities and towers lang ang property for us, unit owners. the restaurants and supermarket around it is most likely smdc property. i could be wrong. baka may iba pang unit owners dyan na nagka time i check ito. kindly post your idea/s

hey, saan ba magbabayad ng water bills? sa Mezza nga ba instead na sa Maynilad?

swimming pool 2 lang ang shower for 4 towers at magbibihis at maglalakad pa sa cr ng lobby .. very uncomfortable naman sana maglagay na lang sila ng dressing room near the showers.pag occupied na lahat ng unit diyan hindi kasya ang ang 2 shower na iyun kung magkasabay sabay silang mag swimming dun....

isa pa me amoy na ang mga sofa sa lobby ng 5th floor lalo na sa lugar ng malapit sa elevator pagbukas ng elevator iba na ang amoy di ba CBRE ang take charge diyan ishampoo sana nila iyun... karamihan nauupo mga IRANIANS duon sila nag bobonding..

hi... pakianswer naman... sa mezza ba dirctly magbabayd ng water bills? di ba sa maynilad? thanks

Sorry di ako nakasagot agad ... bc kasi .... you need to get your own loan kasi fully paid na tong condo ko and I dont have any balances anywhere. Ang sabi sa akin nasa 2.3M daw na ngayon tong 1bedroom lalo na daw at maganda layout ng unit ko dahil maaliwalas, maraming bintana, but I can consider best offer. Uuwi ako sa August para sana ayusin yung unit para magamit namin (i.e. upgrade the tiles, buy appliances and furniture) but plans changed and I need to sell it. I am considering a townhouse instead sa mandaluyong area. So I will sign up with realtors sa August na lang to sell the unit quick. Dami daw naghahanap kasi nga katabi ng schools ... lalo na daw yung mga mayayaman na Iranians.

Hope that helps.




Hi Ms JMA fronting amenities ba ang unit mo

hi... pakianswer naman... sa mezza ba dirctly magbabayd ng water bills? di ba sa maynilad? thanks

OO sa Mezza....Ang alam ko sa Admin magbabayad

OO sa Mezza....Ang alam ko sa Admin magbabayad

i confirm dun na sa office nagbabayad ng water.

thanks for the replies

isa pa me amoy na ang mga sofa sa lobby ng 5th floor lalo na sa lugar ng malapit sa elevator pagbukas ng elevator iba na ang amoy di ba CBRE ang take charge diyan ishampoo sana nila iyun... karamihan nauupo mga IRANIANS duon sila nag bobonding..

please advise if naadvise mo na admin o cbre about that? if yes, kidly post ano ginawa nilang action.

Hi Ms JMA fronting amenities ba ang unit mo

Hello, Its not facing amenities, but doesnt really matter since 37th floor is too high and you wont see the amenities anyways.

Anyone wants painting as added design for the interiors of your house/office/condo?

I can recommend a visual artist. He accepts commission works. He can do portrait painting, murals, abstract, stills, figures, scapes, etc. Its better to buy the painting directly from the artist.

Please send me a private message for more info.

How can I see samples of his work. I am interested in murals

If you want to know why the Philippines is still in dire economic state, try buying a condo from Mezza and you’ll have a first hand experience. We are talking about a private sector in the country’s economy and not even involving corruption or kickbacks. My wife went home recently to buy one and had to extend her stay for more than a month just to do the paperwork, have the place fixed and furnished. Still the work in the condo was not finished and she came back home to recount her harrowing experience with the incompetent management (including the costumer service) of Mezza, their “building engineers”, the furniture and electronic stores, the delivery ands installers people, etc. (I can understand that some of them are overworked). She told me how she would go back to the hotel crying after spending a whole day dealing with those people and not accomplishing anything. If you are used to an efficient system, this kind of experience can be appalling. I could not think of a valid reason why it takes many months to buy a condo (cash!), or weeks to deliver furniture or install an air-conditioner, except plain incompetence and inefficiency. Is it so deeply ingrained in our culture that it would be difficult to eradicate? If you have a different experience, please let me know. Perhaps, she was just naïve or did not know how to get around the unique Filipino system of doing things!:)

everything was pretty much smooth sailing for us. i wouldn't say it was perfect but years of living in the philippines have taught me to be patient. when things dont go my way, i just imagine killing those incompetent bastards in the most efficient but painful method i can think of and teach them a thing or two about efficiency and methodology. in my mind, i won. but in reality, they've succeeded in pissing me off. i just dont show it. hahaha

tell your wife all's well that end's well. not to waste a single drop of tear anymore. she experienced this for a month or two. we go through this almost everyday and sadly will go through this for as long as we are here. ill kill (in my mind) those sh*t heads for her. haha which unit did u get pala? resale or from sm mismo? mind me asking howmuch u got it for? lastly, welcome neighbor!:D

call me pessimist but i dont believe change will come anytime soon. really. a war or an a-bomb dropping at the center of every major city here will be the only way to change the system. this country has to start from scratch. really really sad.

I agree with some of your points mautakono - really sorry to know that. LIke ssc2, pessimist din ako and dont believe change will come so quick. In my case (1 year ago), I did exactly what ssc 172 did. Its abhorrence but I played around with them. Less than 1 month lang time ko to do mine. I did it pero di siya madali. welcome mga neighbors!

We got the penthouse from SM. I'm not sure if my wife is telling me the truth about the price but reportedly around 6 M (?). Thanks for your warm welcome!

6m sounds just about right. anu itsura ng layout nito? what floor? share pics naman @mautakono :D

may nagpakabit ba sa inyo dito ng water heater? pm naman contact ng electrician at anong klase ng heater pinakabit nyo at saan kayo bumili. magkano po bayad sa electrician? wala kasi ako nakitang electrical wire na naka abang for water heater. salamat po.

may nagpakabit ba sa inyo dito ng water heater? pm naman contact ng electrician at anong klase ng heater pinakabit nyo at saan kayo bumili. magkano po bayad sa electrician? wala kasi ako nakitang electrical wire na naka abang for water heater. salamat po.

Hi Danny, sabi ng cousin ko sa Acehardware daw kasama na installation. Yung water heater for shower right? I forgot if it was 4k or 8k

hello danny nagpakabit na kami ng water heater mura lang siya as compare sa sm 3 months na siya P3,600.00 here is the number 0917 795 3915 or 6870048 local 14885 libre ang kabit nagbigay lang ako ng tip ng P200.00 HOTER SINGLE POINT one bedroom din kami tower 4 ako. mas mahal kasi sa sm.. kung gusto mong makita ang itsura niya punta ka sa AYOS DITO/ NCR at ilagay mo water heater siya yung pinakamura...

iyung bathroom walang kasukat na isasalpak lang na makukulong iyong shower area..... wala pa rin akong makita na shower curtain at lagayan ng curtain na ready to use na mabibili dun.... nde ako alam kung me available sa sm/.ace hardware

Hi Danny, sabi ng cousin ko sa Acehardware daw kasama na installation. Yung water heater for shower right? I forgot if it was 4k or 8k

Thank you po.

hello danny nagpakabit na kami ng water heater mura lang siya as compare sa sm 3 months na siya P3,600.00 here is the number 0917 795 3915 or 6870048 local 14885 libre ang kabit nagbigay lang ako ng tip ng P200.00 HOTER SINGLE POINT one bedroom din kami tower 4 ako. mas mahal kasi sa sm.. kung gusto mong makita ang itsura niya punta ka sa AYOS DITO/ NCR at ilagay mo water heater siya yung pinakamura...

Thank you po. yun shower curtain nga rin pala baka may nakaka alam saan makakabili.

Newbie here, Im so glad Ive found this thread, I can relate to most problems encountered by some Mezza owners, my unit is finally ready for acceptance( duh, Im on T2, its way too late) just hopin everything on the punchlists were done properly ( naghintay lang nman ako ng 4 mos for the tiles) My SPA will revisit the unit next week so sana nga ok na talaga :)

iyung bathroom walang kasukat na isasalpak lang na makukulong iyong shower area..... wala pa rin akong makita na shower curtain at lagayan ng curtain na ready to use na mabibili dun.... nde ako alam kung me available sa sm/.ace hardware

My wife told me also that she could not find a specific shower curtain that will fit the odd shaped shower opening (it is difficult for me to imagine this type of shower area:ohno:). We have contracted an outfit that will place built-in glass doors (we have 3 showers), in addition to the kitchen and bedroom cabinets, etc. I'll let all of you know how they will turn out. Do you know that they wont let us replace the pathetic tiles because somebody caused a leak after doing the same? Is it true??:bash:

Hi to evryone first tym ko magcomment d2, I was just surprise to see ung comment ni Ms. Rowena....I paid the full amount of the condo in Grass recidences at tulad ng sinabi ni Ms. Rowena, sasabog ang utak ko s galit at sama ng loob...Ako na nga ang magbabayad ako pa ang maghahabol s kanila..Kc ayaw nila ng full payment at gusto eh iloloan s kanila...4 times ako nagvisit s office nila s MOA...Kung di p ako magwawala dun eh di p ako papayagang magbayad...Bwisit ang management nila nakakdala, considering na padalawa n naming UNIT un..until now after paying in full after two years ung sa chatteau eh wala p rin kami title or deed of sale or proof ng ownership ng condo......

:ohno:I think two years is too long para sa pag process ng title and wala pang proof sa full payment. Parang nakakatakot mag-invest dyan sa SMDC dahil ang proof of ownership mo lang ay ang susi ng unit na hawak mo.:ohno:

Originally Posted by djerassi2000
Hi to evryone first tym ko magcomment d2, I was just surprise to see ung comment ni Ms. Rowena....I paid the full amount of the condo in Grass recidences at tulad ng sinabi ni Ms. Rowena, sasabog ang utak ko s galit at sama ng loob...Ako na nga ang magbabayad ako pa ang maghahabol s kanila..Kc ayaw nila ng full payment at gusto eh iloloan s kanila...4 times ako nagvisit s office nila s MOA...Kung di p ako magwawala dun eh di p ako papayagang magbayad...Bwisit ang management nila nakakdala, considering na padalawa n naming UNIT un..until now after paying in full after two years ung sa chatteau eh wala p rin kami title or deed of sale or proof ng ownership ng condo......

:ohno:I think two years is too long para sa pag process ng title and wala pang proof sa full payment. Parang nakakatakot mag-invest dyan sa SMDC dahil ang proof of ownership mo lang ay ang susi ng unit na hawak mo.:ohno:

I think djerassi2000 should consult my wife how to "magwala" effectively sa MOA. Otherwise, it could also have taken much more than a month before we got our papers processed:lol:

:ohno:I think two years is too long para sa pag process ng title and wala pang proof sa full payment. Parang nakakatakot mag-invest dyan sa SMDC dahil ang proof of ownership mo lang ay ang susi ng unit na hawak mo.:ohno:

I think I need to clarify our situation. It took them 2 weeks to give us the key to the unit. My understanding is that they need to fix first all the things in the "punchlist" before we can accept the paperwork since we cant accept an unfinished unit (it might take longer for them to do it once you already accepted or not do them at all). This is the process that may take a while and I am pessimistic based on what I hear from everybody else. Let me know if I'm wrong.

At least it was available for my son to stay few days after the start of classes. It happened only after my wife "nagwala" sa MOA. Otherwise, he would have to stay in Robbinsdale for a month which was really expensive.

I just could not believe that it would be OK for SM to sell unfinished units. Here in the states, you could not sell a condo, apartment or a house that is not done and promise you will fix of finish it later, not unless you minus the cost of the repair from the total value and have the owner take care of it.:mad2:

:ohno:I think two years is too long para sa pag process ng title and wala pang proof sa full payment. Parang nakakatakot mag-invest dyan sa SMDC dahil ang proof of ownership mo lang ay ang susi ng unit na hawak mo.:ohno:

wala pa bang TCT ang mezza till now? i just remembered. i read something from other thread, may nagpost kasi kasi. it's about may cease and desist order (CDO) daw yun mezza sa HLURB. you can check it here - http://hlurb.gov.ph/uploads/license-sell/projects-with-cdo/CDOENCR.pdf. (nasa second page, line 11). akala ko ok na ang lahat, so i didn't bother to post it here.

wala pa bang TCT ang mezza till now? i just remembered. i read something from other thread, may nagpost kasi kasi. it's about may cease and desist order (CDO) daw yun mezza sa HLURB. you can check it here - http://hlurb.gov.ph/uploads/license-sell/projects-with-cdo/CDOENCR.pdf. (nasa second page, line 11). akala ko ok na ang lahat, so i didn't bother to post it here.

Please elaborate or explain further. Is this new news or an old one?. Pls avoid TLA's (three letter abbreviations) of FLA's/

6m sounds just about right. anu itsura ng layout nito? what floor? share pics naman @mautakono :D

oo nga pavisit naman minsan sa unit mo :)

iyung bathroom walang kasukat na isasalpak lang na makukulong iyong shower area..... wala pa rin akong makita na shower curtain at lagayan ng curtain na ready to use na mabibili dun.... nde ako alam kung me available sa sm/.ace hardware

correct. same problem last year when found our the walang fit na shower enclosure sa kanya kaya nagpagawa na lang ako sa iba. wala din kami mabiling shower curtain sa pinas with such shape pero here sa Ikea Abu Dhabi ang dami. sinabihan ko nga SM sa baba ng building na magtinda ng ganung shape ng shower rod at im sure maraming buyers from meza. nakakausap ko kasi manager dun dati at accomodating naman pero til makaalis ako,wala pa din silang shower rod na ganun.

My wife told me also that she could not find a specific shower curtain that will fit the odd shaped shower opening (it is difficult for me to imagine this type of shower area:ohno:). We have contracted an outfit that will place built-in glass doors (we have 3 showers), in addition to the kitchen and bedroom cabinets, etc. I'll let all of you know how they will turn out. Do you know that they wont let us replace the pathetic tiles because somebody caused a leak after doing the same? Is it true??:bash:

may mga nagpalit talaga ng tiles so i dont know why they will prohibit others to do so. if may nag leak before siguro dapat eh iset nlang nila rules nla na maiwasan mangyari yun ulit. i remember nung may nag repaint sa ibang units sa floor namin. grabe ang emittance. kinatok ko talaga at kako sana they will enclose the main door para di ma leak out ang odor then open nla windows ng inaayos nila. i reported it sa cbre at they agreed. pinagsabihan sla. very strong tlaga yung paint and thinner na gnamit - ewan ko ba :bash: nagparepaint din kami sa sm ng same color lang pero walang smell!

:ohno:I think two years is too long para sa pag process ng title and wala pang proof sa full payment. Parang nakakatakot mag-invest dyan sa SMDC dahil ang proof of ownership mo lang ay ang susi ng unit na hawak mo.:ohno:

hmmm as soon as you paid (partial/full) di ba dpat may proof of payment. i always have provisional receipt then ilang weeks pa to get the OR. i paid my unit in cash for almost 2yrs ndin at wala pa din naman ako condo title. last time umuwi kami ng asawa ko may pinapirmahan ulit na deed of sale ata, same with my parking slot at when i ask for a title - later pa daw yun. no idea also when ba dapat makuha yun for a condo project. kasi sa stateland dati bilis ko lang nakuha title ko pero sa nha housing ng mother ko bayad na kami in full for 3yrs, wala pdin title till now.

I think I need to clarify our situation. It took them 2 weeks to give us the key to the unit. My understanding is that they need to fix first all the things in the "punchlist" before we can accept the paperwork since we cant accept an unfinished unit (it might take longer for them to do it once you already accepted or not do them at all). This is the process that may take a while and I am pessimistic based on what I hear from everybody else. Let me know if I'm wrong.

At least it was available for my son to stay few days after the start of classes. It happened only after my wife "nagwala" sa MOA. Otherwise, he would have to stay in Robbinsdale for a month which was really expensive.

I just could not believe that it would be OK for SM to sell unfinished units. Here in the states, you could not sell a condo, apartment or a house that is not done and promise you will fix of finish it later, not unless you minus the cost of the repair from the total value and have the owner take care of it.:mad2:

agree na dapat i fix muna nila all ng nasa punchlist. pero you can compromise din na i accept with condition na gagawin nila agad. that is what happened to me last year kasi hinabol ko sa pasukan ng kids. well, nangyari naman pero konti pa kami dating tenant, i dont know now how fast they can act now sa mga requests kasi dami ng nakalipat. bow naman ako sa wife hehe di naman ako dati umabot sa MOA, within mezza lang ako kasi yung proj director dati laging andyan, sa kanya lang ako talk. pag kinakausap ako ng mga engineers kako okey i will talk to your proj director.

may mga nagpalit talaga ng tiles so i dont know why they will prohibit others to do so. if may nag leak before siguro dapat eh iset nlang nila rules nla na maiwasan mangyari yun ulit. i remember nung may nag repaint sa ibang units sa floor namin. grabe ang emittance. kinatok ko talaga at kako sana they will enclose the main door para di ma leak out ang odor then open nla windows ng inaayos nila. i reported it sa cbre at they agreed. pinagsabihan sla. very strong tlaga yung paint and thinner na gnamit - ewan ko ba :bash: nagparepaint din kami sa sm ng same color lang pero walang smell!

I agree with you. They should use water based paint, not oil based since it is indoors. It is easier to clean and no bad odor, and no need for thinner.

oo nga pavisit naman minsan sa unit mo :)

Our unit is not yet finished. We already bought all the furnitures before we left but the painting, mural, built-in cabinets, shower doors and punch-list are not yet done. The airconditioner in the second floor is not yet in coz we could not make the Engineer & the installer meet at the same time :ohno: My son is probably sweating all over everytime he eats breakfast upstairs.

Besides, my son is the only one staying there and probably partying all the time. I can still remember how his apartment looked in college last year. I dont want you to find the condo with drunk and naked kids laying down all over the place.:lol:

I'll send you pics when all the work is done. The way everything is going on right now, I am hoping before the interior decorator (designer?) retires.

Terms Exclusive for 2BR units with VAT

A. Spot 5%, 5% payable in 3 months, 90% bank financing or lump sum. (with
12% discount)

B. Spot 10%, 10% payable in 6 months, 80% bank financing or lump sum.(with 12% discount)

C. Spot 5%, 15% payable in 12 months, 80% balance bank financing or lump
sum. (with 10% discount)

D. Spot 3%, 5% payable in 3 months, 10% payable in 9 months, 82%
bank financing lump sum. (with 10% discount)

E. Spot 10%, 15%payable in 18 months, 75% bank financing or lump sum. (with 8% discount)


The PAYLITE Term is applicable only to PH, 1+1, 3BR units.

@mautakono: whoa bi-level ang unit nio? now im super curious how it looks like! post pix when your done fitting it out ha. cheers! :D

paano magpost ng pictures

Only 5% DP, Lipat agad.

hmm...may sunog daw now sa tower 2 sa 29th according to my kids and parents. room daw ng mga iranian. im hearing negative comments na sa lahing ito pero ayaw ko naman maging racist kasi pero i pity the owner of that unit. wala naman daw natataranta, actually dami pa nanonood from 5th floor. :ohno:

hmm...may sunog daw now sa tower 2 sa 29th according to my kids and parents. room daw ng mga iranian. im hearing negative comments na sa lahing ito pero ayaw ko naman maging racist kasi pero i pity the owner of that unit. wala naman daw natataranta, actually dami na nanonood from 5th floor. :ohno:

Ano kaya ang pinagmulan???...

My son said the sprinkler system did not work; there was no water!:bash:

I think the tenants should band together (no homeowner's association yet?) and complain to the management before another catastrophic fire happens.:ohno:

Here in America and probably in any civilized part of the world, it is a criminal act to put a sprinker system without water!:bash:

My son said the sprinkler system did not work; there was no water!:bash:

I think the tenants should band together (no homeowner's association yet?) and complain to the management before another catastrophic fire happens.:ohno:

Here in America and probably in any civilized part of the world, it is a criminal act to put a sprinker system without water!:bash:

same with what i heard with kids kasi yun din daw narinig nila. i will check bukas sa management what really happened at confirm that. may homeowners na interim lang so better check on it also. sabi daw ng kids iranian nakatira at there are some stories i've been hearing sa father ko bout these iranians thru guards. kaawa naman unit owner na ito at nasunugan agad. sabi daw nagiihaw sa loob ng unit then naiwan???

hmm...may sunog daw now sa tower 2 sa 29th according to my kids and parents. room daw ng mga iranian. im hearing negative comments na sa lahing ito pero ayaw ko naman maging racist kasi pero i pity the owner of that unit. wala naman daw natataranta, actually dami na nanonood from 5th floor. :ohno:


Thanks Ning for the updates,musta ka na? and yes its a nice decision to have a serious HOA.Thats too bad ..no water..?that is a very serious crime here in Japan too.SM or the management must learned their lesson.:ohno:

anak ng! nako. kulang pa bang pabahuin nila ang elevator at kelangan pa nila sunugin ang buong building! mga bobo rin naman pala mga yan e.

ning, can you share some of the stories that your dad heard from the guards ?
also please update the thread once you find out with management what really happened and why the sprinkler system didnt work.

maybe it wasnt too big of a fire that the sensor didnt detect the heat? totally gutted ba ung unit?

haaay may mga tao talagang walang malasakit to those around them... dapat sa mga yan nasunog na lang o nasuffocate. sorry, pero hmmmm

same with what i heard with kids kasi yun din daw narinig nila. i will check bukas sa management what really happened at confirm that. may homeowners na interim lang so better check on it also. sabi daw ng kids iranian nakatira at there are some stories i've been hearing sa father ko bout these iranians thru guards. kaawa naman unit owner na ito at nasunugan agad. sabi daw nagiihaw sa loob ng unit then naiwan???

Admin Information: 2 female Iranians and nakaiwan ng plantsa sa bed nila... 1 bedroom sa 29th flr at bed lang daw ang nasunog naagapan daw agad at mausok ang kuarto na delay lang daw ang paglabas ng tubig sa sprinkler.....

Admin Information: 2 female Iranians and nakaiwan ng plantsa sa bed nila... 1 bedroom sa 29th flr at bed lang daw ang nasunog naagapan daw agad at mausok ang kuarto na delay lang daw ang paglabas ng tubig sa sprinkler.....

thanks for the info. i called my parents before 9am here or past 12pm sa pinas. sabi nga plantsa daw naiwan or computer - iniimbestigahan pa daw til now actually. di ko pa nakausap admin kasi lunch break pa nila kanina. sabi ko na baka kasi yun lang narinig ng kids/parents ko so mahirap naman mag rely agad sa sabi sabi. at ang nakapatay nga daw ng apoy is taga cbre at di naman umakyat mga bumbero. good nag wowork naman pala ang sprinkler ayon sa updates mo jejemon kasi di ko maisip how mawalan ng tubig yun eh connected naman yun sa water system di ba? and not to a tank na dapat pang lagyan ng water? sabi ng asawa ko kagabi baka lang di lang agad nag work sensor ng water sprinkler. anyway, please provide updates.

sa kwento kwento naman ng mga guard sa iranians - hmm i rather keep it muna sa self ko kasi di naman ako sure na true yun.

nakausap ko na friend ko sa admin just now. andun pa nga daw mga iranians sa admin office kasi under investigation nga sila. naiwan daw plantsa na naka open at nakapatong sa bed. so nasunog bed, etc. naagapan naman daw agad ng cbre personnel kasi may fire extinguisher naman sila pero yun nga di agad nag function yung water sprinkler. nag work naman daw pero di agad so yun now ang pinapatignan nila sa maintenance/engineering. yung fire alarm din daw mahina so pinagtitignan din now. di na nga daw umakyat mga bumbero kasi pagdating daw bumbero halos nahandle na yung fire. 2 female students daw ang nakatira.

sa homeowners di pa daw naka form ng functional one kasi ongoing pa turn over. malapit na daw nila mareach 60% occupancy then pag nangyari yun, magkaka botohan na, etc.

at least yan - 1st hand info. may 2 rooms din tenanted sa floor namin na iranians. isang bachelor daw na mabait nman DAW sabi ng nanay at kids ko then isa is couple naman. pero others daw are not. some are drinking alcohol daw beside the pool na pinagalitan ng guard pero galit din daw. when i was there last april may couple na nagaway at batuhan sa loob room nila then kinatok ng guard at inawat pero nahirapan daw awatin kasi nagsasalita daw sa language nila hehe

Thanks Ning and jejemon for the updates.Good.to know how our neighborhood is doing and our management doing their job naman pala.
Hope that the admin will really learn from any unexpected events like this and be ready alway.

my friend lives here, hehe iranian din sya susumbong ko kayo

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"my friend lives here, hehe iranian din sya susumbong ko kayo"
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I guess we need to trace your IP address so that we can find out who is our modern day "Japanese Collaborator" in Mezza :mad2:

my friend lives here, hehe iranian din sya susumbong ko kayo


Magsumbong ka kung gusto. Totoo naman , kaya walang masama.
Mabuti nga kung malaman nila at least pwede nila icorrect ang mga maling ugali nila.

thanks for the info. i called my parents before 9am here or past 12pm sa pinas. sabi nga plantsa daw naiwan or computer - iniimbestigahan pa daw til now actually. di ko pa nakausap admin kasi lunch break pa nila kanina. sabi ko na baka kasi yun lang narinig ng kids/parents ko so mahirap naman mag rely agad sa sabi sabi. at ang nakapatay nga daw ng apoy is taga cbre at di naman umakyat mga bumbero. good nag wowork naman pala ang sprinkler ayon sa updates mo jejemon kasi di ko maisip how mawalan ng tubig yun eh connected naman yun sa water system di ba? and not to a tank na dapat pang lagyan ng water? sabi ng asawa ko kagabi baka lang di lang agad nag work sensor ng water sprinkler. anyway, please provide updates.

sa kwento kwento naman ng mga guard sa iranians - hmm i rather keep it muna sa self ko kasi di naman ako sure na true yun.

i think the sprinkler activates if malakas na ung smokea and theyre not meant to work pag konti lang ung smoke kasi if ganun un everytime nagluluto ka or nagyosi gagana sprinkler badbad agad ung unit

i think the sprinkler activates if malakas na ung smokea and theyre not meant to work pag konti lang ung smoke kasi if ganun un everytime nagluluto ka or nagyosi gagana sprinkler badbad agad ung unit

you're wrong. fire sprinkler activates when the tiny glass bulb located on the sprinkler head breaks. it breaks when it reaches sufficient heat, not "smoke".

about the fire incident, IMO, its because the unit is so small, there are really no proper place for ironing clothes. to add to that fact, these were just students, young people tend to be negligent and careless sometimes.

i wonder what will happen for condos that have smaller units than mezza, then there are lots of young people (students) such as them. ironing, smoking on the bed etc. well, it just might happen again.

my friend lives here, hehe iranian din sya susumbong ko kayo

:) sumbong ang alin? post ni ssc172? hehe actually some of them doesnt really smell good for filipinos. iba kasi standard natin sa amoy. even here in UAE, daming iranian, arabs and indian at talagang msakit sa ulo amoy nila. di naman kasi normal sa pinoy ang may amoy - sa kanila ordinary na yan :bash:

ask ko lang guys, on time ba ang turn over dates ng mga towers dito sa mezza. i am makng a survey kasi kung totoo nga yong sinasabi ng agents na "mabilis talaga ang turn over ng SMDC projects".ty

depends kasi sa basis ng schedule. if nasa planning stage pa lang then may given date na sila eh 50-75% nyan namomove yan later - unless priority project sya at may hinahabol talaga sila. then after planning, may date na naman sila sa launching..so pag launch naman when talaga magsimula yung construction.

if ako tatanungin, i rather ask ilang months construction? ex 2yrs? then ask when sila talaga nag start ng construction. sa experience ko nung nagpareserve ako launching nagsabi sila na last quarter ng 2008. then nung start construction, naging 1st quarter ng 2009. nagawa naman last quarter ng 2009 pero since by floor and schedule ang turnover inabot ako april/may 2009. di na masama for me.

ok. to make things simple, why dont you check your CTS? anu ba ang nakalagay na turnover date? and then, kelan yong ACTUAL turnover ng unit mo? tanong: mas maaga ba o late na (based on what was originally written sa CTS date of completion or turnover).

If late na, ilang beses nagpa extend ng turover date?

its not simple for me lighter, kasi wala CTS ko dito with me. im not in the phils but i got my cts much later na dahil nga wala ako sa pinas. and its not an issue anymore with me kasi more than 1yr na kaming nakatira sa mezza. so i cant say now if mas maaga based on cts. ang alam ko, 1 beses lang nagpa extend as i posted previously. baka may ibang tenant pa makasagot ng exact info you need.

Ningnicole,

Since I think you have the most experience dealing with the management, perhaps you can give us an advice. My son has been living in our unit since the turnover in the middle of June 2010. We had the check list of all the things that needed to be fixed in the unit but none has been done yet. We could not install our airconditioning in the second floor because the Engineer (Capinding) wont allow us without his presence but he is not always available. Before coming back to the states, my wife spent countless hours going to the management in Mezza and MOA without any success. Do you know what is our best option? Can anybody tell us where to send our complaint (address of MOA office & Henry Sy). It is frustrating and we are getting desperate. We would greatly appreciate any advise that you can give us.

bakit naman kailangan pa engineer eh yong sa unit namin kinabit 4 ac wala namang problema tapos 2 weeks ago may 1 unit bedroom friend ko nakabit din namin ac wala problema. last year pa na-turn over unit namin .

bakit naman kailangan pa engineer eh yong sa unit namin kinabit 4 ac wala namang problema tapos 2 weeks ago may 1 unit bedroom friend ko nakabit din namin ac wala problema. last year pa na-turn over unit namin .

Our aircon in the second floor is "split type" because the entire window side of the floor are all glass windows (dining & living rooms, no bedrooms) without opening for a regular airconditioning. We found out there was no available connection also for this type of aircon and the engineer needed be present when the installer comes in so that they can put it together. (I dont know the specifics) The problem is he was not always available and it was difficult to make an appointment with him to be with the installer. There was no problem with the bedrooms in the first floor because we used the regular ones.

excuse me ang taray I thought you`re also gonna have just the window type ac.I`m not aware that in other unit they have a split type. good luck with that engineer cause I heard he did`nt have good reputation thnks.

I believe taga-CBRE ang PMG people (Engineers, Leasing, Admin). If you objectively think that they are not doing their work, get the name and bring it to CBRE's attention.

I believe taga-CBRE ang PMG people (Engineers, Leasing, Admin). If you objectively think that they are not doing their work, get the name and bring it to CBRE's attention.

Do you have the address or e-mail? I am now in the states

Our aircon in the second floor is "split type" because the entire window side of the floor are all glass windows (dining & living rooms, no bedrooms) without opening for a regular airconditioning. We found out there was no available connection also for this type of aircon and the engineer needed be present when the installer comes in so that they can put it together. (I dont know the specifics) The problem is he was not always available and it was difficult to make an appointment with him to be with the installer. There was no problem with the bedrooms in the first floor because we used the regular ones.

yes same with me, nakabit windows AC namin and all other things without the engineer. pero you said its split type kaya andun ang issue. i asked that before sa kanila kasi sa living room area namin wlang butas for AC and we have balcony. I am thinking of installing a split type unit ac and walang ready connection nga. so when i inquired ganun din sinabi na they make sure daw na safe ang piping connection ng outdoor casing sa AC unit.

i think it should not be an issue if maalam naman ang gagawa. ang issue is yung availability ng engineer na yan! its ideal to complain them pero that will take time, my suggestion is to talk to the head of cbre mezza with that engineer, agree common day and time. if pwde papirmahin, then do it of course mention mo yung case nyo na nasa limited lang time nyo to finish all your task. if you can say paalis na kayo by next week bla bla para lang mafacilitate then do it. :bash:

make sure mawarn mo sya na pag wala sya sa agreed day na yun eh you need to proceed. in short, more pushing lang....then if wala sya kahit representative nya then you have all the right to proceed with your work...magreklamo man sya. but i suggest if mangyari yun pasama ka pa din sa taga cbre para may witness ka. anyway, if palpak naman pagkabit ng split type ac, you will still be liable with the presence or absence of that engineer. as if naman sya gagawa eh titingin lang sya! :ohno:

Under Property Management...

http://www.cbre.com.ph/asset-services-group.aspx

ok. tnx fot the info. so, na extend ng isang beses yung turnover. ilang buwan ang extension before the actual turnover?

ang alam ko 1 beses lang from last quarter ng 2008 to first 2009. so wala naman definite date, una is last quarter ng 2008 which is until dec 31 2008. then 1st quarter of 2009 is until march 31 2009 di ba. so count it...

please note na march pa lang may email na ako sa kanila informing me to choose anong date preferred ko for turnover. syempre i am also following up at telling them i need my unit by april/may. may sched sila by floor pero they were accomodating naman if di kalayuan ang floor mo. example 15-20 floors palang then 21 -22 ka. wag lang floor 38 syempre. april ako umuwi at nakita unit ko sabay punch listing then yung target kong end May 2009 in prep sa pasukan ng kids, natupad naman.

thanks everybody

Hello,

Finally moved in around 1 month ago. Just wanted to share my experiences with the Condo, Admin, and the Contractor.

Just to start things off, with regards to compalints, repairs and service:
1. Upon turnover, everything was wrong... spent 18 months complaining still nothing happened. Worst was my old place got submerged by Ondoy. So if I just moved in I would have avoided all the losses. It took some time before my Attorney-friend just convinced me to look the other way (avoiding to look at what's wrong) and just move in.
2. By Luck, I got to meet Levi Sevilla of Home Logic Builders. He transformed what was 18 months of depression to complete satisfaction in around 90 days. His rate was very good, his extra services is beyond expectations. (I just wish I met him say... 20 months earlier) A very experienced contractor and a very good friend, higly commendable.
3. As for the Mezza Admin, they are ok. Carina, Ryan and the short fella...the engineer are all ok. The security guards are ok, reception crew are also ok.
4. Contractors: well.... Just forget about them. Totally Unreliable. Unprofessional. Just a bad memory..... Imagine upon turnover, we complained that the toilet bowl seats are yellowish, not new condition. wow they said they will fix it. hmmmm, I guess they did, after 2 weeks they were like new. Moving in showed just how bad they are. Imagine the horror of finding out how they fixed the simple complaint... My 3 year old kid used it and when she got up "white paint was sticking on her behind" ... PAINT! Can someone please educate this people that paint is not a friendly substance.. and that you do not paint toilet seats to make them look new!!!! and to make things worse the level on the bathroom floors are not done correctly, water stops at one side, not even close to the side where the drain is (either thses guys do not use a level or they just hire guys who do not know what they are doing) My big thanks to Levi for fixing this dilemna for free.
5. Neighbors. Well I am not a Racist. So I will just point out what I noticed without pointing to particular races of people.

a.) Some people tend to press the hold button on the elevators and leave it on the 5th floor. Had to alert a guard to radio it in, because I noticed it was stuck there for 10 mins already. These are elevators used by everyone, not private elevators.
b.) Some people swim with only their underwear on... mostly male.
c.) Beware of leaving your yaya's alone with other yaya's they tend to share personal stuff about you to other yaya's

That's about it for now, will add more later, have to prepare to go to work na.

Thanks!

welcome kerpogi! agree ako sa iyo . oks nga mga tao sa admin (cbre) and even guards, etc. magagalang which is expected of them naman.

agree din ako sa iyo sa contractors. may mga angal din ako pero na medyo i ignored na dati kasi malapit napasukan. like small chips sa tiles. if wait ko mapalitan baka di kami makalipat ng May. yung toilet bowl pakiramdam ko super lapit sa wall at babangga legs ko wala namang action. naisip ko natural di yun madaling gawin siguro. then tissue holder kadikit halos ng toilet bowl kako ano ito masugatan pa ako :bash:. yung cr mirror namin may bubbles sa loob - dun ako di pumayag. kako palitan kahit pumirma ako sa punchlist. pinalitan naman nila. medyo affected ako sa shower enclosure kasi dami sanang mabili na mura at malapit sa atin na i install na lang pero di nga standard size so wlang mag fit in. so no choice talaga but have it done as built-in. then yung minors naadress naman like yung blue stickers sa mga windows, etc kako pakitanggal kasi baka malaglag pa ako if ako magtanggal...

sa foreign neighbors, dami kuwento ng parents and kids ko pero kako since im leaving abroad, wag ganun kasi dito dayuhan din kami. di ko na din i share ano mga comments nila like sa smell, etc. :nuts: ang ayaw ko lang maging magulo sila syempre like makipag away or what.

isa pang napansin ko nung last ko uwi, daming outsiders na nagsuswim. alam ko allowed sila pero sana not during weekends na dami din owners na nagsuswim at sana may limit lang like 20 outsiders a day? i know common faces sa lugar and i can say na one time parang halos 75% ng naliligo taga labas na and not wearing correct swim wears.

Sa yaya agree ako - baka kasi maging cause din yan ng problem later if they are sharing such sa other yaya. di mo masabi talaga. NUng umuwi ako, one time i saw my son with big chocolate and may 2 yaya cutting his choco ito pieces - kaloka. Di naman kasi suplado bunso ko so tinawag ko, then nagalisan sila at napahiya ata.

Hello,

Finally moved in around 1 month ago. Just wanted to share my experiences with the Condo, Admin, and the Contractor.

Just to start things off, with regards to compalints, repairs and service:
1. Upon turnover, everything was wrong... spent 18 months complaining still nothing happened. Worst was my old place got submerged by Ondoy. So if I just moved in I would have avoided all the losses. It took some time before my Attorney-friend just convinced me to look the other way (avoiding to look at what's wrong) and just move in.
2. By Luck, I got to meet Levi Sevilla of Home Logic Builders. He transformed what was 18 months of depression to complete satisfaction in around 90 days. His rate was very good, his extra services is beyond expectations. (I just wish I met him say... 20 months earlier) A very experienced contractor and a very good friend, higly commendable.
3. As for the Mezza Admin, they are ok. Carina, Ryan and the short fella...the engineer are all ok. The security guards are ok, reception crew are also ok.
4. Contractors: well.... Just forget about them. Totally Unreliable. Unprofessional. Just a bad memory..... Imagine upon turnover, we complained that the toilet bowl seats are yellowish, not new condition. wow they said they will fix it. hmmmm, I guess they did, after 2 weeks they were like new. Moving in showed just how bad they are. Imagine the horror of finding out how they fixed the simple complaint... My 3 year old kid used it and when she got up "white paint was sticking on her behind" ... PAINT! Can someone please educate this people that paint is not a friendly substance.. and that you do not paint toilet seats to make them look new!!!! and to make things worse the level on the bathroom floors are not done correctly, water stops at one side, not even close to the side where the drain is (either thses guys do not use a level or they just hire guys who do not know what they are doing) My big thanks to Levi for fixing this dilemna for free.
5. Neighbors. Well I am not a Racist. So I will just point out what I noticed without pointing to particular races of people.

a.) Some people tend to press the hold button on the elevators and leave it on the 5th floor. Had to alert a guard to radio it in, because I noticed it was stuck there for 10 mins already. These are elevators used by everyone, not private elevators.
b.) Some people swim with only their underwear on... mostly male.
c.) Beware of leaving your yaya's alone with other yaya's they tend to share personal stuff about you to other yaya's

That's about it for now, will add more later, have to prepare to go to work na.

Thanks!

Hi Ning, with regards to the shower enclosure, here is a tip; awkward as it seems lalo na the angle, just trace the shape of the lower bottom tiles (which stops water from going out) with Manila paper, bring it to Soler in manila, then have them make a custom tube 1" in diameter. Mine cost me P1,300 only, then I just got a shower curtain..Ok na! :D

Also with regards to what I read about with A/C installations done in front of the engineer; I think this is required if we are boring a hole on a solid wall. Since most of the sections are pre-fabricated, they have to inspect if these will weaken the structure. My way around it (since I was forced to have the master's setup with a split type a/c) is simply take out one of the glass panels on the top portion. Since the glass panel is not a foundation, it won't cause any harm to the foundation. I will be posting some pics soon on what Levi did to my room soon so as to give everyone an idea :)

One thing that I would like to get more info on is the electricity bill. I don't know about you guys, but I came from a bigger house with more appliances, but I only averaged 4 to 5,000 a month. But here with fewer appliances and using only one 1HP a/c (compared to the previous 2HP A/C) my electricity bill rose up to 7,900 :( I recently complained to Meralco and they promised to send an engineer to take a look. I also want to ask them why my meter is bigger than the rest of the units??? An electrician even told me my meter is 3-phase. which is normally for commercial units. If this is true then I need to downgrade my service with Meralco. I am still hoping that this is not true, otherwise I need to find out who was in charge of applying for the meters that got me into a 3 phase load when my unit is only 87 Sq mtrs. compared to my former place of 200 sq mtrs. which was only running at single phase lines. Any one experience high electric bills like mine?

nasolve ko na yung sa shower enclosure but I guess makakatulong yan tip sa iba. my friend installed shower enclosure / partition 2.5X 1.6 and .55 x 1.5 sized powder coated white – with design kasabay ng screen door and screen windows.

yes, post what you have para magkatips mga owners!

Hi Ning, with regards to the shower enclosure, here is a tip; awkward as it seems lalo na the angle, just trace the shape of the lower bottom tiles (which stops water from going out) with Manila paper, bring it to Soler in manila, then have them make a custom tube 1" in diameter. Mine cost me P1,300 only, then I just got a shower curtain..Ok na! :D

Also with regards to what I read about with A/C installations done in front of the engineer; I think this is required if we are boring a hole on a solid wall. Since most of the sections are pre-fabricated, they have to inspect if these will weaken the structure. My way around it (since I was forced to have the master's setup with a split type a/c) is simply take out one of the glass panels on the top portion. Since the glass panel is not a foundation, it won't cause any harm to the foundation. I will be posting some pics soon on what Levi did to my room soon so as to give everyone an idea :)

di ko na check type ng meter namin but we experienced more than 8k plus bill nung summer na umuwi kami ng asawa ko kasi halos di na napapatay AC. plus nagkataon tumaas din electric rate around those months. after we left regular na sa amin yung more than 6k to little more than 7k. ang use ng ac from 2pm to 5pm then around 8pm to 6am sa weekdays at longer sa weekends plus normal household appliances.

yan po ba yung malapit asa Gilmore?

Also just wondering if thereis a curfew along the common areas?

I sometimes experience groups of people who make a lot of noise on the East side between towers 2 & 3 during the wee hours of the morning. Not sure if they are purely unit owners or just guests, but they sure make a lot of noise, with their Mobile phones acting like radios playing their music.

Don't know which is worse hearing noisy jeepneys passby if you live in a low rise building... or hearing these noise around 2 am living in a high rise condo, which was supposed to provide peace & quiet.

I pity the poor security guards who actually talk nicely to these rowdy individuals who even have the guts to ask the guards.."why? have 20 unit owners complained already?" tsk tsk.. and I also wish they would not throw their trash and cigarettes in the common areas because kids play and wander in these areas early in the morning.

What makes me feel bad is these are our countrymen and not foreigners who might not be used to guidelines.

Also just wondering if thereis a curfew along the common areas?

I sometimes experience groups of people who make a lot of noise on the East side between towers 2 & 3 during the wee hours of the morning. Not sure if they are purely unit owners or just guests, but they sure make a lot of noise, with their Mobile phones acting like radios playing their music.

Don't know which is worse hearing noisy jeepneys passby if you live in a low rise building... or hearing these noise around 2 am living in a high rise condo, which was supposed to provide peace & quiet.

I pity the poor security guards who actually talk nicely to these rowdy individuals who even have the guts to ask the guards.."why? have 20 unit owners complained already?" tsk tsk.. and I also wish they would not throw their trash and cigarettes in the common areas because kids play and wander in these areas early in the morning.

What makes me feel bad is these are our countrymen and not foreigners who might not be used to guidelines.

haaaay. medyo ito ang kinakatakot ko sa condo living. mga pasaway na unit owners.

yan po ba yung malapit asa Gilmore?

medyo. actually mas malapit sa sm centerpoint, o tapat sya ng jollibee, ccp and immaculate heart along aurora blvd.

sino sa inyo nakapag avail ng short term payment with no interest? I inquired bout this pero sa parking slot lang kasi fully paid naman na yung unit ko. I am paying my parking slot DP for 2yrs and will end on October this year. I asked approval for 3yrs payment ng balance with no interest though I was warned na usually 2yrs lang ang pinapayagan. Luckily, naaprove request ko but I was asked to pay 3k processing fee for change payment which is ok...but also 54,280 as cost of money. It amounts to almost 45% of the original I should be paying with 15% interest. Misnomer naman pala itong "no interest" thing. I know it will cut around 7% of the 15% which is not bad at all pero I was expecting a real zero interest! :cheers:

Sabi kasi di ako makakabank loan for parking alone...kaya automatic inhouse financing lang ako which is high! on second though kahit i loan out ko din pala to pay cash its same naman din, so tiis muna pay ng 3yrs basta low interest naman :bash:

sino sa inyo nakapag avail ng short term payment with no interest? I inquired bout this pero sa parking slot lang kasi fully paid naman na yung unit ko. I am paying my parking slot DP for 2yrs and will end on October this year. I asked approval for 3yrs payment ng balance with no interest though I was warned na usually 2yrs lang ang pinapayagan. Luckily, naaprove request ko but I was asked to pay 3k processing fee for change payment which is ok...but also 54,280 as cost of money. It amounts to almost 45% of the original I should be paying with 15% interest. Misnomer naman pala itong "no interest" thing. I know it will cut around 7% of the 15% which is not bad at all pero I was expecting a real zero interest! :cheers:

Sabi kasi di ako makakabank loan for parking alone...kaya automatic inhouse financing lang ako which is high! on second though kahit i loan out ko din pala to pay cash its same naman din, so tiis muna pay ng 3yrs basta low interest naman :bash:

I am Ning,I paid mine 3yrs w/o interest.Originally na pagkatapos ng downpayment ay iloloan ko rin sana.But I chose to pay my downpayment in 12 months na ang available nila talaga noon is 24 months down payment remember.
Ay noong magaapply ako sa BDO andaming che bureche to think na inuwian ko pa kaya sabi sige pay ko nalang the total TCP in another 2 years na lang.Alam month ba pinag meetingan pa nila yun.
Ayaw sana nila pumayag kasi hindi daw yun ang usapan.But meron daw isang staff sa SMDC na he considered that I paid my DP in 12 months lang kaya ayun pumayag na rin na bayaran ko yung remaining balance ng TCP in 2 years and really w/o interest.
I don't have a parking tho'.

hi ning, yoong sa unit namin ay 3 yrs.with no interest same thing sa best friend ko thnks.

so baphi you did not pay for that "cost of money" na sinasabi? sa inyo kasi ni rugie eh looks parehas na for unit so i dont know if that applies sa parking slot. hay....anyway i inquired on that why may ganun pa! its unfair naman if sa unit eh wala tapos tapos sa parking meron.

so baphi you did not pay for that "cost of money" na sinasabi? sa inyo kasi ni rugie eh looks parehas na for unit so i dont know if that applies sa parking slot. hay....anyway i inquired on that why may ganun pa! its unfair naman if sa unit eh wala tapos tapos sa parking meron.

Yes ning,no, I didn't pay,first time that I've heard of that.

Yes ning,no, I didn't pay,first time that I've heard of that.

naku then thats weird! i really have to chase them bout it :bash: or baka sabihan its a new policy arghh...sana its for insurance or other payments nlang but for cost of money ek parang hirap intindihin!

@ningnicole, hi.

Since fully paid na unit mo, ano ano papers and docs na hawak mo as proof of ownership?

@ningnicole, hi.

Since fully paid na unit mo, ano ano papers and docs na hawak mo as proof of ownership?

Notarized CTS and Master Deed. Last April when we went to pinas may pinapirmahan sila another docs na i forgot what they call that.

Three months ago when we were at Mezza, we noticed a lot of people hanging out in the 5th floor. Some are sleeping and others are probably resting or spending the rest of the day in an air-conditioned area. I saw a few of them most of the days and I know they were there for hours because I saw them in the morning and also in the afternoon. Some of them are not even well dressed. No wonder somebody in this forum complained that the couches are smelly. Is this still going on? It is not only about the aesthetic appearance of the place, but also the security. I wish they will issue ID or pass to all residents. We can't wait for something bad to happen before taking any action. If only they put security cameras all over the place.

Notarized CTS and Master Deed. Last April when we went to pinas may pinapirmahan sila another docs na i forgot what they call that.

Hindi na ba kailangan pumunta sa register of deeds or munisipyo for the yearly property tax?

Hindi na ba kailangan pumunta sa register of deeds or munisipyo for the yearly property tax?

yeah if nasa atin na ang title. pero since hindi pa smdc is doing that.

sa mga ksama ko palang unit owners sa mezza, i just called Ryan to inquire sa insurance. he said insured ang building pero may provision daw na if due to negligence ng unit owner like sa fire eh di daw siya covered. i wonder if we can get a copy of such insurance. of course i asked him if hes recommending na ipainsure natin ang ating unit and as expected he said YES.

lastly, until now di pa nababawasan ang hoa fees natin. its still free for more than 1yr na so that could be good but of course we need a working hoa para masimulan na ang mga pwdeng mgawa to improve the place like sa comment ni mautakono. isa sa iniisip ko is changing room near poolside at di yung pupunta pa sa cr ng 5th floor lobby yung mga nagswim kaya nagkalat minsan ang water. another is limiting the number of outsiders sa building particularly sa pag gamit ng amenities. dapat may certain number lang sila na pwde in a day. of course yung pag implement ng ID system asap. dati nag require sila ng ID pics for each family member so sana maayos na nila yun.

Notarized CTS and Master Deed. Last April when we went to pinas may pinapirmahan sila another docs na i forgot what they call that.

nakuha ko na yun key ng unit namin pero wala naman binigay na CTS and master deed?
saan at kanino po ito kinukuha at gaano katagal after turnover ng unit?

nakuha ko na yun key ng unit namin pero wala naman binigay na CTS and master deed?
saan at kanino po ito kinukuha at gaano katagal after turnover ng unit?

last year din lang namin nakuha na nakatira na kami. no idea gaano katagal dapat.

nakuha ko na yun key ng unit namin pero wala naman binigay na CTS and master deed?
saan at kanino po ito kinukuha at gaano katagal after turnover ng unit?

last year din lang namin nakuha na nakatira na kami. no idea gaano katagal dapat.

Kerpogi,

Would you mind giving me the Tel# of Levi Sevilla of Home Logic Builders?

Hello,

Finally moved in around 1 month ago. Just wanted to share my experiences with the Condo, Admin, and the Contractor.

Just to start things off, with regards to compalints, repairs and service:
1. Upon turnover, everything was wrong... spent 18 months complaining still nothing happened. Worst was my old place got submerged by Ondoy. So if I just moved in I would have avoided all the losses. It took some time before my Attorney-friend just convinced me to look the other way (avoiding to look at what's wrong) and just move in.
2. By Luck, I got to meet Levi Sevilla of Home Logic Builders. He transformed what was 18 months of depression to complete satisfaction in around 90 days. His rate was very good, his extra services is beyond expectations. (I just wish I met him say... 20 months earlier) A very experienced contractor and a very good friend, higly commendable.
3. As for the Mezza Admin, they are ok. Carina, Ryan and the short fella...the engineer are all ok. The security guards are ok, reception crew are also ok.
4. Contractors: well.... Just forget about them. Totally Unreliable. Unprofessional. Just a bad memory..... Imagine upon turnover, we complained that the toilet bowl seats are yellowish, not new condition. wow they said they will fix it. hmmmm, I guess they did, after 2 weeks they were like new. Moving in showed just how bad they are. Imagine the horror of finding out how they fixed the simple complaint... My 3 year old kid used it and when she got up "white paint was sticking on her behind" ... PAINT! Can someone please educate this people that paint is not a friendly substance.. and that you do not paint toilet seats to make them look new!!!! and to make things worse the level on the bathroom floors are not done correctly, water stops at one side, not even close to the side where the drain is (either thses guys do not use a level or they just hire guys who do not know what they are doing) My big thanks to Levi for fixing this dilemna for free.
5. Neighbors. Well I am not a Racist. So I will just point out what I noticed without pointing to particular races of people.

a.) Some people tend to press the hold button on the elevators and leave it on the 5th floor. Had to alert a guard to radio it in, because I noticed it was stuck there for 10 mins already. These are elevators used by everyone, not private elevators.
b.) Some people swim with only their underwear on... mostly male.
c.) Beware of leaving your yaya's alone with other yaya's they tend to share personal stuff about you to other yaya's

That's about it for now, will add more later, have to prepare to go to work na.

Thanks!

Mautakono,

Levi 's contact numbers are:
09175373837
and 2151783
send him an sms first :D

By the way, pwede mag plug??? Haha :D

I'm wondering if someone is interested, I'm selling my 40 day old ELBA built-in Hob.
Its a 70cm sized 3 plate Hob. Model is 74-030SS I'm planning to get a 90cm model.
Got it for 18.8k will give it for 15k :)

the specs are:
1 standard electric plate 1500w size 180
1 Rapid electric plate 1500w size 145
1 rapid electric plate 2000w size 180

Made in Italy.

Interested buyers can get in touch with me at 217-4750

Thanks!

Kerwin

last year din lang namin nakuha na nakatira na kami. no idea gaano katagal dapat.


sa office ba sa 4th flloor ? sino po incharge at ano sasabihin ko? ( CTS at master deed ba?)

sa office ba sa 4th flloor ? sino po incharge at ano sasabihin ko? ( CTS at master deed ba?)

sa customer service ka inquire ng smdc

ang tagal ng updates natin

ang tagal ng updates natin:ohno:

By the way, pwede mag plug??? Haha :D

I'm wondering if someone is interested, I'm selling my 40 day old ELBA built-in Hob.
Its a 70cm sized 3 plate Hob. Model is 74-030SS I'm planning to get a 90cm model.
Got it for 18.8k will give it for 15k :)

the specs are:
1 standard electric plate 1500w size 180
1 Rapid electric plate 1500w size 145
1 rapid electric plate 2000w size 180

Made in Italy.

Interested buyers can get in touch with me at 217-4750

Thanks!

Kerwin

Ahm Sori Kerwin, just curious, why are you selling it? You'll buy a new one?

Hi everyone. I'm selling my 2 br unit at 27 floor T2. Fully furnished like 37 inch Samsung LCD TV, Samsung double sidedoor Ref, furnished kitchen etc. I got my unit last October 2009 and we live there for 1 month only last December. Our US petition was already ok and has to sell it before next summer. We will be there this christmas so if you're interested please have a look. Price is negotiable.

Hi everyone. I'm selling my 2 br unit at 27 floor T2. Fully furnished like 37 inch Samsung LCD TV, Samsung double sidedoor Ref, furnished kitchen etc. I got my unit last October 2009 and we live there for 1 month only last December. Our US petition was already ok and has to sell it before next summer. We will be there this christmas so if you're interested please have a look. Price is negotiable.

how much?
magkano ba ang rental income ng 2 bedroom? 1 bedrrom?

does anyone know where to pay prudential insurance ( fire etc. )? a rep from prudential called my dad to remind him about the due date and was told to wait for the statement by mail. thanks in advance

Sabi ng asawa ko ay matagal na na mabaho raw sa Tower 3. Hangang sa mga upper floors abot na ang amoy na mabaho.. What is the SM Mezza management doing about this?

Sabi ng asawa ko ay matagal na na mabaho raw sa Tower 3. Hangang sa mga upper floors abot na ang amoy na mabaho.. What is the SM Mezza management doing about this?

Anong amoy daw po? Tower 1 kmi.

amoy ng tao yan for sure.

weh....di nga...nakaka-apekto ba yan sa resale? Joke...

kabalik ko lang for 1 week holiday and di ko napansin. Madaming "mataray" na tenants sa Mezza kasama na mother ng kaklase ng anak ko na taga Tower 3 din. So if matagal na yang mabaho i am sure di pwdeng walang mag rereklamo dyan :cheers:

Tower 1 kami at 2x din akong nakaakyat sa Tower 3 kasi sa unit ng kaklase ng anak ko sila sa tower 3 nagtututor. So pakispecify nature ng amoy at since when pa. Pero oo madaming Iranian students talagang may amoy na makakasabay ka sa elevator. Good wala sa floor naming Iranian pero makakasabay mo pa din sila sometimes. In fairness, not all. May few of them na walang amoy. Paano kaya macontrol mga tenants na may amoy? Kasi amoy is subjective. At kahit di Arab, mabantot din. Im working sa isang Australian consulting firm at daming puti ditong may amoy din. Kahit pinoy may putok waaahhhhhhh I wonder if ipagbawal silang mag rent dyan eh prerogative naman yan ng unit owner. Or sana sama sama na lang sila sa specific floors.

Heard sa January na magkaka functional HOA na may representative from tenants. I wish pro-active ang mamuno at masipag para maayos ang maintenance ng Mezza.

tagal ko na di nakapag post ng pics so I dont know if this will work. taken ito sa grass area where may nagsa soccer na kids pag Friday and Saturday aside sa mga unit owners/tenants na sitting around the area. Dito ako usually nanonood sa anak ko pag nagsa soccer sya while using FB dahil may free wifi here.

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ayaw mag automatic. i will try again.

ayaw mag automatic. i will try again.

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anlaki pala pasensya na. :nuts:

in less than 2 years eh gusto ng asawa ko palitan yung kitchen upper and lower cabinet. nagkataon na inabutan ko pa yung last part ng installation kasi natagalan sila sa pag cut ng black granite. hirap kasi magpagawa na andun na nakatira at less na space, etc. ito yung upper and lower cabinet na pinalitan namin. previous lower cabinet was the one included sa turn over. yung previous upper cabinet kami na naglagay before. this does not include yung left side with ref below pa.

yung previous sink pinalitan din namin kasi we want one with drainer on the side para di masyado mabasa pag nahuhugas ng pinggan. yung previous wood na inalis kasi nababasa so may part ng durog kahit pinaseal pa namin dati. sana ito tumagal naman. we also changed the faucet at di na medyo loose na sa connection.

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di masyado good ang quality ng picture taken using iphone4 at sa gabi pa. this is for sharing lang naman sa husband ko but i am thinking of sharing it sa ibang unit owners to give idea on how they can improve their kitchen.

some notes pa pala from my recent 1 week stay in Mezza.

1) all garbage bins sa building eh separated in 3 types. kaya sa kusina namin separated na din ang waste namin although into 2 types lang nakita kong ginagawa ng parents ko.

2) no gym until now. i saw tarpaulin sa harap ng save more inviting medical and wellness businesses though sa 2nd floor ng SM. di naman nakalagay na dapat sa loob mismo ng mezza. hope matutukan ito ng hoa sa january. 6th floor is still a vacant place na ang huli kong rinig magiging function rooms pero no traces of final plan for the space.

3) yung parking space sa ground floor/lobby area na dating free at anytime sa mauuna ay may nakalagay ng free for 20mins only. i heard sa mga naging bisita ko na, the guards can be flexible for another 20-30 minutes pero pag inabot na daw ng 1hour, maniningil na sila.

4) they added additional and nice tables and chairs beside the pool. di ko lang nakunan ng picture.

5) one of the 3 elevators in tower 1 (i dont know sa ibang tower) considered as service elevators (covered with old woods) remained the same. iniexpect ko eh gawin na din siyang ordinary elevator kasi medyo di maganda tignan. baka kasi dami pang lumilipat.

6) may mga elevator buttons na looks melted from maybe lighter or what. yan ang issue sa walang camera sa elevator at per floor kasi di mo matrace who is doing that. all are pointing sa mga iranian na tenants. sometimes may elevator na ang tagal sa 1 floor but no one can trace nga of the cause dahil walang camera. sana gawin itong project ng hoa later.

7) continuous na yung AC sa 5th floor lobby unliek last April 2010.

8) ang daming new stores sa paligid ng save more ang ioopen. its along the entrance ng save more - not sa hilera ng Mann Hann.

anlaki pala pasensya na. :nuts:

in less than 2 years eh gusto ng asawa ko palitan yung kitchen upper and lower cabinet. nagkataon na inabutan ko pa yung last part ng installation kasi natagalan sila sa pag cut ng black granite. hirap kasi magpagawa na andun na nakatira at less na space, etc. ito yung upper and lower cabinet na pinalitan namin. previous lower cabinet was the one included sa turn over. yung previous upper cabinet kami na naglagay before. this does not include yung left side with ref below pa.

yung previous sink pinalitan din namin kasi we want one with drainer on the side para di masyado mabasa pag nahuhugas ng pinggan. yung previous wood na inalis kasi nababasa so may part ng durog kahit pinaseal pa namin dati. sana ito tumagal naman. we also changed the faucet at di na medyo loose na sa connection.

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Hi Ning, Im Riza newbie here, you have a nice kitchen, may I know sino gumawa? Hindi ko pa kasi naayos unit ko, this coming February pa ko uuwi, Im looking for a contractor right now, btw Tower 2 nga pla ko.Thanks so much

ningnicole, san ka nagluluto?

nice kitchen there! :)

Hi Ning, Im Riza newbie here, you have a nice kitchen, may I know sino gumawa? Hindi ko pa kasi naayos unit ko, this coming February pa ko uuwi, Im looking for a contractor right now, btw Tower 2 nga pla ko.Thanks so much

friends na couple ko - the guy is an electrical engineer and the lady is an architect. dati ko silang ksamahan sa isang office sa manila then they also worked here in Abu Dhabi (AECOM) until nagka recession kaya they started na lang their own (small) contracting company sa Pinas. If interested, PM mo na lang ako for their contact details. If 2 bedroom ka din alam na nila mga sukat and they can easily provide you designs. yung supposed to be maids room, we used it as cooking and washing area and uumpisahan din nya ang improvement itong december.

@kyoto, dun po sana na maids room po kami nagluluto. andun din washing machine namin, water dispenser, rice dispenser, small garbage bin saka mga kitchen utensils.

ito yung initial plan for that area. ignore the MDF kasi ayaw ng asawa ko so papalitan yun ng wood. then yung inalis na granite gagamitin namin here. same pa din yung accordion door where dun ilalagay yung washing machine. then yung tall cabinet dyan ilalagay yung water dispenser then cab up and down will be for mga kaldero etc.

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nice kitchen there! :)

walang pang laman yan richard. dito na lang ako bibili sa ikea ng mga pang lagay. magulo nga nung nag picture kasi i have to report it everday sa asawa ko. then yung mga kalat na paints sa gilid ayos na yan kasi nagpapaint din ako ng salas at dining area. yung sa rooms at lutuan will be later na lang. hirap magpagawa kasi ng madami ng gamit sa loob.

so sa mga neighbors, good luck sa mga unit renovation/improvement ninyo.

ganda naman ningnicole! congrats! :)

kabalik ko lang for 1 week holiday and di ko napansin. Madaming "mataray" na tenants sa Mezza kasama na mother ng kaklase ng anak ko na taga Tower 3 din. So if matagal na yang mabaho i am sure di pwdeng walang mag rereklamo dyan :cheers:

Tower 1 kami at 2x din akong nakaakyat sa Tower 3 kasi sa unit ng kaklase ng anak ko sila sa tower 3 nagtututor. So pakispecify nature ng amoy at since when pa. Pero oo madaming Iranian students talagang may amoy na makakasabay ka sa elevator. Good wala sa floor naming Iranian pero makakasabay mo pa din sila sometimes. In fairness, not all. May few of them na walang amoy. Paano kaya macontrol mga tenants na may amoy? Kasi amoy is subjective. At kahit di Arab, mabantot din. Im working sa isang Australian consulting firm at daming puti ditong may amoy din. Kahit pinoy may putok waaahhhhhhh I wonder if ipagbawal silang mag rent dyan eh prerogative naman yan ng unit owner. Or sana sama sama na lang sila sa specific floors.

Heard sa January na magkaka functional HOA na may representative from tenants. I wish pro-active ang mamuno at masipag para maayos ang maintenance ng Mezza.

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The report of the bad smell is true and we have reported it many times because it can be a health risk. My brother-in-law gets headaches everytime he sleeps there. It is worse in the top floors. It is due to uncovered sewer openings in the top floors (they dont have "cleanout" covers). We found out that the original builder/contractor abandoned the project and may explain all the unfinished work in Towers 3 & 4. It is the reason tenants in the top floor could not install their airconditionings because they failed to put a provision for them. They have been trying to figure out how to make them go to the ceiling/roof (for months), but the last time I heard they are still waiting for a smarter engineer to do it, and the Gods at MOA to approve it (you can imagine how slow they make a decision there). I dont want to start again... but it is enough to say that in a civilized society, it does not work this way. You are either out of business or in jail if you run your realty business this way!!

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The report of the bad smell is true and we have reported it many times because it can be a health risk. My brother-in-law gets headaches everytime he sleeps there. It is worse in the top floors. It is due to uncovered sewer openings in the top floors (they dont have "cleanout" covers). We found out that the original builder/contractor abandoned the project and may explain all the unfinished work in Towers 3 & 4. It is the reason tenants in the top floor could not install their airconditionings because they failed to put a provision for them. They have been trying to figure out how to make them go to the ceiling/roof (for months), but the last time I heard they are still waiting for a smarter engineer to do it, and the Gods at MOA to approve it (you can imagine how slow they make a decision there). I dont want to start again... but it is enough to say that in a civilized society, it does not work this way. You are either out of business or in jail if you run your realty business this way!!

OMG. that might have a lasting effect, like resale? They need to fix that asap. why would a contractor abandon a project with the Philippines biggest and most liquid corporation?

Blame SMDC for bastardizing the real estate and construction industry and treating them like their retail business. If you are a newcomer in this business and want to make a name, start by hiring better builders, contractors and suppliers. Hindi mo pwedeng baratin especially these days na booming ang construction at marami silang mapupuntahan. Heavy marketing and piggybacking on their already established SM brand are not enough kung gusto nilang makipagsabayan sa ibang real estate giants, condo units are not cheap, milyon ang binabayad ng mga buyers diyan. These so called "good guys" should just concentrate on their retail business and stop selling "affordable" condo units using "affordable" labor and materials. Mas malaki pa ang gagastusin ng mga tao sa maintenance.

@mautakono - kung cleanout nga reason malaking problema yan. One of the most common mistakes a plumber can do is not providing cleanout or cleanout cover, sa plumbing and pipe laying every bend kailangan may cleanout. Not only for cleaning purposes (sa bends madlas ang clogging), diyan din kasi pinapadaan ang video cameras para sa inspection kung may cracks at sira ang pipe. Kung cleanout cover madali lang yan solusyunan, but I doubt kung cover nga lang ang problema dahil umabot pa kamo sa higher floors. Somewhere along the pipeline siguradong clogged, SMDC engineer should check the gradient of the sewer pipes again on each floor (dapat simula pa lang) to ensure na meron gravity flow, a building of this density should have at least 1% grade or 1cm flow for every 1 meter of pipe. Any numbers below that is a catastrophe. Isang malaking tubol lang na hindi dumaloy dyan makakasagabal na yan sa flow ng system.

As for you brother's headache, he's having a "Sick Building Syndrome" so tell him not to stay in your condo for awhile. Pinalala pa yan na walang outsde air na pumapasok sa building kaya circulating na ang masamang hangin sa loob.

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The report of the bad smell is true and we have reported it many times because it can be a health risk. My br\other-in-law gets headaches everytime he sleeps there. It is worse in the top floors. It is due to uncovered sewer openings in the top floors (they dont have "cleanout" covers). We found out that the original builder/contractor abandoned the project and may explain all the unfinished work in Towers 3 & 4. It is the reason tenants in the top floor could not install their airconditionings because they failed to put a provision for them. They have been trying to figure out how to make them go to the ceiling/roof (for months), but the last time I heard they are still waiting for a smarter engineer to do it, and the Gods at MOA to approve it (you can imagine how slow they make a decision there). I dont want to start again... but it is enough to say that in a civilized society, it does not work this way. You are either out of business or in jail if you run your realty business this way!!

so existing pa ito until now sa tower 3? and 4? di ko masyado napansin ito when i went there last week though 2x ako umakyat sa tower 3 at wala naman akong naamoy going to floor 26. i am in the pool area almost everyday para bantayan kids ko at wala din akong naamoy. sa 26th floor kasi nagtututor ang kids ko minsan pag wala na silang table na makuha sa 5th floor. Naka AC naman sila sa 26th floor so i assume higher than 26th floor ang issue?

please advise naman ano naging reply nila sa reklamo ninyo? or any actions na nagawa nila. di sila dapat nagpa move in muna sa affected floors if may issues pa na ganyan. kawawa naman mga nakapag move-in na.

we dont know the exact nature of the problem with the contractors at mahirap maging so conclusive ng walang basis but of course dapat maiexplain ng smdc yan ng maayos sa mga unit owners. and most importantly maaksiyunan agad para maiwasang mageneralize ang problem sa lahat ng mezza (or all sm properties) as this one is kamo sa upper floors ng tower 3 and 4 nangyari.

kaya talagang looking forward ako sa functional HOA soon para may representative na ang mga unit owners.

i remember what they did to sea residences that they welded pipes instead of using proper fittings. just wondering paano kung na-turnover na yan at nagkaroon ng problema? 1 year lang naman yung guarantee ni smdc sa mga unit owners di ba? laking gastos yan if ever sa HOA which units owners themselves will have to shoulder. tsk tsk.

can't help to imagine, nagawa nila yan sa sea which is considered mahal ang benta nila doon, what more mababa lang ang benta nila sa mezza at kaka-start pa lang nila sa condo building.

even sa grass tower 1, same din ang ginawa nila tulad sa sea. i think i need to bring it to attention again para marami makaalam at mapansin. para hindi na nila ulit magawa mga yun. tsk tsk. this is bad!

if they can do this to their main projects, i hate to imagine what they will do to their cheaper projects like myplace. mas maraming cost cutting and cutting short corners?

Blame SMDC for bastardizing the real estate and construction industry and treating them like their retail business. If you are a newcomer in this business and want to make a name, start by hiring better builders, contractors and suppliers. Hindi mo pwedeng baratin especially these days na booming ang construction at marami silang mapupuntahan. Heavy marketing and piggybacking on their already established SM brand are not enough kung gusto nilang makipagsabayan sa ibang real estate giants, condo units are not cheap, milyon ang binabayad ng mga buyers diyan. These so called "good guys" should just concentrate on their retail business and stop selling "affordable" condo units using "affordable" labor and materials. Mas malaki pa ang gagastusin ng mga tao sa maintenance.



Bro, Tell us how you really feel about SMDC. :lol:
Very nice assessment.

Problem is plenty of investors don't do their research.
Most of them would probably see the other SMDC projects kasi nga malakas ang marketing and they would think that SMDC is all there is.

SMDC is using the real estate industry as a tool for the monopoly of retail business. SMDC loves to sell affordable small units a la "bartolina", mas maraming tao mas mabuti para sa kanila, ibebenta sa mababang monthly amortizations pero mataas na interes, tatayuan ng retail business na kunwari ay para sa convenience ng mga naninirahan?

And guess where do they make more money? Sa Condo na naibenta o sa retail business na patuloy na bumebenta habang nakatayo ang building.

Do they even care about traffic congestion? No
Do they care about the load on garbage and waste disposal? No
How about the small businesses within the vicinity? They don't care
or SM plastic bags? Hindi na nila problema kung saan itatapon ng mga tao yan.

SMDC is using the real estate industry as a tool for the monopoly of retail business. SMDC loves to sell affordable small units a la "bartolina", mas maraming tao mas mabuti para sa kanila, ibebenta sa mababang monthly amortizations pero mataas na interes, tatayuan ng retail business na kunwari ay para sa convenience ng mga naninirahan?

And guess where do they make more money? Sa Condo na naibenta o sa retail business na patuloy na bumebenta habang nakatayo ang building.

Do they even care about traffic congestion? No
Do they care about the load on garbage and waste disposal? No
How about the small businesses within the vicinity? They don't care
or SM plastic bags? Hindi na nila problema kung saan itatapon ng mga tao yan.

I guess that is smart business by SMDC. Good business plan. I can't blame them they are in the business of making money. Sabi nga nila "Hate the Game, But don't hate the Playa".

Traffic congestion - you are correct but if the government wants to avoid that they should have not given SMDC permit to build without having a plan.
Small business in the vicinity. Its the same argument Wal-Mart is getting. Sad but true the weak gets eaten up.

I just wish that since they are a strong and big company they would take the lead and set the example of how a good and responsible business should be in the Philippines.

i wonder despite negative posts about SMDC in this forum, new properties keeps on popping? it seems this forum is not that effective :ohno: to influence possible owners.

one common thing i read is about SM business strategy which may not be liked by others but looking at the other side hindi ba may positive impact ito sa socio-economic conditions (EIA mode) by providing job opportunities sa tao? I agree that if there are issues on traffic congestion, the government should have not given SMDC permit to build without having a plan. I worked as EIA consultant before sa Philippines and part of an EIA is traffic impact assessment and solid waste management. DENR or EMB to be exact has technical review committee for these EIS from different government agencies, academe, NGO, other stakeholders before issuing NOC.

going back to the issue, being a unit owner in Mezza I look forward how building issues are being handled. i want to believe this is an isolated case.

so existing pa ito until now sa tower 3? and 4? di ko masyado napansin ito when i went there last week though 2x ako umakyat sa tower 3 at wala naman akong naamoy going to floor 26. i am in the pool area almost everyday para bantayan kids ko at wala din akong naamoy. sa 26th floor kasi nagtututor ang kids ko minsan pag wala na silang table na makuha sa 5th floor. Naka AC naman sila sa 26th floor so i assume higher than 26th floor ang issue?

please advise naman ano naging reply nila sa reklamo ninyo? or any actions na nagawa nila. di sila dapat nagpa move in muna sa affected floors if may issues pa na ganyan. kawawa naman mga nakapag move-in na.

we dont know the exact nature of the problem with the contractors at mahirap maging so conclusive ng walang basis but of course dapat maiexplain ng smdc yan ng maayos sa mga unit owners. and most importantly maaksiyunan agad para maiwasang mageneralize ang problem sa lahat ng mezza (or all sm properties) as this one is kamo sa upper floors ng tower 3 and 4 nangyari.

kaya talagang looking forward ako sa functional HOA soon para may representative na ang mga unit owners.

I agree with you Ningnicole that only a functional HOA may be able to convince them to find another builder/contractor to finish the job. Otherwise, we may need to organize and solicit signatures from the unit owners to strongly express our concern and demand not only explanations but also solutions. I also agree that this problem may tarnish the name of the whole place and lower the resale value of every unit owner's investment

"I agree that if there are issues on traffic congestion, the government should have not given SMDC permit to build without having a plan."

asa ka pa sa gov't, parang wala namang utak mga nakaupo doon eh. parang nakaupo lang sa puwesto kasi may kapit. honestly, ganoon na kalakaran sa atin. hindi kayo pinoy kung hindi ninyo alam ito.

before may magreact, just think first, ano ba sistema sa lrt/mrt? nakikita ba ninyo kung gaano karami ang tao? (talk about overload) how about mga prangkisa ng mga bus sa edsa for example? (overload!) same argument, why did the gov't issue those "prangkisa" to bus operator? sa taxi na lang alam naman natin lahat hindi nagsusukli, tapos may batingting pa! ano ulit ginagawa ng gov't? not to say may mga cam na sa edsa at nakikita naman kung paano nagmamaneho ang mga bus na parang sawa pero ano ulit ginagawa ng gov't? bakit pa naglagay ng camera kung wala din palang use? sayang lang sa pera!

ang tagal tagal na issue ang mga side walk vendor pero till now ganoon pa rin. wala ba silang mga mata!? just go to divisoria now. they blocked the whole streets like they own it! guess how's the traffic? why did the gov't allowed it?

talk about kapabayaan. doon na lang sa walkbridge sa tapat ng sm north edsa, ginawa yun para daanan ng tao. guess what? ginawa ng place na bentahan ng mga sidewalk vendor. 2/3 na ang ino-occupy nila. 1/3 na lang ang naging daanan ng tao. i assume yung mga vendor doon mga squatters na taga baranggay san roque na pinapaalis pero ano ulit ang ginawa ng gov't?

asa ka pa. like the gov't won't issue or give permit kung hindi nila pinagaralan yan. if you are going to look at it, it seems nagbigay sila ng permit kasi napaka-incompetent ng mga tao sa gov't! parang mga walang utak at walang pinagaralan. puro palpak!!!

unsolicited advise for you keyo, make one step forward to act or do something to lessen these socio-economics issues in our country (apart from providing advise in this forum). but we need to open our eyes na 3rd world country tayo and these issues are not only in the Philippines. Dito nga sa Abu Dhabi na napaka liit pa ng population (at napakayamang bansa), may bus overloading pa din, sa city siyempre. Masyado mahabang usapin yan in the point of economy.

regarding government employees, yung parang mga walang utak mga nakaupo at incompetent eh dont generalize. madami scholar ng bayan na matatalino at serving back to the government. pero di lang naman utak o talino ang kailangan sa implementation, it's full support. main question is may enough funds and police power ba ang government to do that? hulihin mo man mga vendors na yan o ikulong, ilalagay lang sila kulungan at government pa din ang magpapakain sa kanila sa kulungan? di naman yan makakapag multa kasi nga wala silang pera so think over. as said, napakahabang usapin nyan.

@mautakono, if you need to organize and solicit signatures from the unit owners, expect my full support. from what floor ba ng tower 3 and 4 ang affected at this time?

i wonder despite negative posts about SMDC in this forum, new properties keeps on popping? it seems this forum is not that effective :ohno: to influence possible owners.

one common thing i read is about SM business strategy which may not be liked by others but looking at the other side hindi ba may positive impact ito sa socio-economic conditions (EIA mode) by providing job opportunities sa tao? I agree that if there are issues on traffic congestion, the government should have not given SMDC permit to build without having a plan. I worked as EIA consultant before sa Philippines and part of an EIA is traffic impact assessment and solid waste management. DENR or EMB to be exact has technical review committee for these EIS from different government agencies, academe, NGO, other stakeholders before issuing NOC.

going back to the issue, being a unit owner in Mezza I look forward how building issues are being handled. i want to believe this is an isolated case.

Good to know you were an EIA consultant, that makes it easier for me to voice out my opinions because we have the same background, I used to dabble in Environmental Impact Assessment also and quite knowledgeable in matters concerning the environment so hindi na mahirap satin na hindi magkaintindihan.

Sure this project has positive impacts, job creations - although mostly contractual- has been the number one argument by SM for their business, we can't take that away from them. But how about the negative impacts? We, as practitioners of EIA, both know that the first step in assessing the environmental situation eh kailangan muna natin malaman kung ilan ang DENSITY. Ilan ang populasyon na nakaka-apekto sa environment at ilan ang populasyon na maapektuhan ng bagong environment? After all hindi lang environment ang concern natin, pati rin ang public health, di ba?

Now with this "smart" business strategy by SMDC of mixing their business in a residential property hindi mo na malaman kung ilan ba talaga ang populasyon na gumagamit ng utilities at nakaka-apekto sa environment. Instead of having a predetermined number of occupants sa residential buildings na gagamit ng kuryente, magtatapon ng mapoproduce na solid waste, gagamit ng sewer, dadaan sa kalsada, iinom ng tubig, etcetera. hiinahaluan pa nila ng dagdag na populasyon na dadayo sa kanilang commercial establishment na gagamit ng kuryente, magtatapon ng basura, dudumi, iihi at iba pa. And what could be the worst possible impact? Overloading ng utilities, hindi ba? While the unit owners of these buildings are dutifully paying their property taxes sa lupang tinitirikan ng building nila and an additional value added tax sa mga pinapamili sa mga grocery stores ng SM, other consumers na napadaan lang pero nakigamit ng utilities are exempted from paying utility taxes. Ang VAT na binabayaran ng SM eh nireremit din lang nila galing sa mga consumers. Mga barya-barya lang sa kanila yan na hindi na sinusukli sa mga mamimili.

There's another thing na probably hindi rin kayo aware, aside from additional usage of service utilities by commercial establishments intended for residential owners eh ang labor and construction materials na ginamit sa pag-gawa ng mga commercial space are also paid for by you, SMDC buyers. Kasama na sa patong na binayaran niyo yan sa mga unit niyo. Ang mga kawad ng kuryente na dumadaan diyan, mga tubo ng tubig at sewer, pintura, semento, buhangin are all coming from the sales of residential units.

Eh ang tanong, Homeowners ba ang may-ari niyan?

I definitely agree SMDC has a good business plan.

kahit out of topic, what do you mean SCUD na SMDC is mixing their business (commercial) in their residensial properties? if you mean community connectivity at nilapit nila yung supermarket/hardware/money change/pharmacy well that is appreciated for a unit owner like me that wants accessibility for various reasons - save money from petrol, reduce air pollution from car usage, reduce traffic, etc. kaya ka nga bumili ng condo unit for accessibility di ba?.

of course unit owners have option not to patronize them. like in my case, according to my parents my items na mahal sa save more at may mura. so yung mahal dun na lang sa talipapa binibili ng parents ko considering yung ipapamasahe/pang gas at time.

regarding commercial establishments - of course, we can determine the approximate number of customers and FTE ng regular staff as users (part of feasibility study?) and if you have such figure, provision of utilities and the capacity will be based on that. overloading may happen in some cases but if you made a could estimate ng number ng tao during design stage palang, then that should not likely to happen.

ang di ko makuha yung issue about linking it sa residential units... na magkaka additional usage of service utilities by commercial establishments intended for residential owners? these 2 are separate entities. if tuusin if all mezza owners nga will be fully patronize savemore/other establishments sa mezza, nakakabawas nga yan sa use of utilities. kasi unit owners does not need to pee or produce much waste kasi they can do that na sa unit nila.

for curiosity, can you show clear proof na ang labor and construction materials na ginamit sa pag-gawa ng mga commercial space are also paid for by us - unit owners?

Good to know you were an EIA consultant, that makes it easier for me to voice out my opinions because we have the same background, I used to dabble in Environmental Impact Assessment also and quite knowledgeable in matters concerning the environment so hindi na mahirap satin na hindi magkaintindihan.

Sure this project has positive impacts, job creations - although mostly contractual- has been the number one argument by SM for their business, we can't take that away from them. But how about the negative impacts? We, as practitioners of EIA, both know that the first step in assessing the environmental situation eh kailangan muna natin malaman kung ilan ang DENSITY. Ilan ang populasyon na nakaka-apekto sa environment at ilan ang populasyon na maapektuhan ng bagong environment? After all hindi lang environment ang concern natin, pati rin ang public health, di ba?

Now with this "smart" business strategy by SMDC of mixing their business in a residential property hindi mo na malaman kung ilan ba talaga ang populasyon na gumagamit ng utilities at nakaka-apekto sa environment. Instead of having a predetermined number of occupants sa residential buildings na gagamit ng kuryente, magtatapon ng mapoproduce na solid waste, gagamit ng sewer, dadaan sa kalsada, iinom ng tubig, etcetera. hiinahaluan pa nila ng dagdag na populasyon na dadayo sa kanilang commercial establishment na gagamit ng kuryente, magtatapon ng basura, dudumi, iihi at iba pa. And what could be the worst possible impact? Overloading ng utilities, hindi ba? While the unit owners of these buildings are dutifully paying their property taxes sa lupang tinitirikan ng building nila and an additional value added tax sa mga pinapamili sa mga grocery stores ng SM, other consumers na napadaan lang pero nakigamit ng utilities are exempted from paying utility taxes. Ang VAT na binabayaran ng SM eh nireremit din lang nila galing sa mga consumers. Mga barya-barya lang sa kanila yan na hindi na sinusukli sa mga mamimili.

There's another thing na probably hindi rin kayo aware, aside from additional usage of service utilities by commercial establishments intended for residential owners eh ang labor and construction materials na ginamit sa pag-gawa ng mga commercial space are also paid for by you, SMDC buyers. Kasama na sa patong na binayaran niyo yan sa mga unit niyo. Ang mga kawad ng kuryente na dumadaan diyan, mga tubo ng tubig at sewer, pintura, semento, buhangin are all coming from the sales of residential units.

Eh ang tanong, Homeowners ba ang may-ari niyan?

I definitely agree SMDC has a good business plan.

May I attempt to tackle some of your questions. Pardon me if I misunderstood your question.

A lot of condominiums built now a days, especially the bigger ones, consists of residential and commercial elements. As most people know, the residential element is divided into units and sold to residential buyers with a restrictive covenant that it be used for residential purposes. The commercial element is likewise divided into units and are either sold to commercial investors, or leased by the developer to commercial operators (normally occurs if developer is unable to sell it right away), or the developer may choose to retain ownership of the commercial units because he has a second business that engages in the operation of commercial establishments. In any event, the commercial units have separate owner/s and not part of the Corporation’s Common property that is turned over by the developer to the condominium corporation; but they are still parts of the condominium corporation, like the residential units are parts of the condominium corporation(managed by the HOA). Because ownership is separate, the residential owners do not bear the burden of cost for the construction and maintenance of the commercial units. The collection of condominium fees for common expense relating to the shared elements shall be calculated and determined for commercial units and residential units, respectively, on the basis of the percentage allocations set forth in the by-laws. All common expenses incurred by the corporation in relation to the residential elements shall be allocated exclusively to the residential owners, in proportion to their respective ‘unit factors’, and shall therefore not be a charge upon or payable by the commercial owners in any manner whatsoever. Likewise, all common expenses incurred by the corporation in relation to the commercial elements shall be allocated exclusively to the commercial owners, in proportion to their respective ‘square footage’, and shall therefore not be a charge upon or payable by the residential owners in any manner whatsoever. In recognition of the disproportionate size of the residential unit to the commercial units, and the relative number of persons associated therewith, respectively, all condominium fees in respect of common expenses incurred by the corporation in relation to the shared elements shall be paid for by the residential owners and the commercial owners, in proportion to their respective square footages (for commercial) and 'unit factor' (for residential) as defined in the by-laws. The residential and commercial unit owners therefore bear the burden of their own separate maintenance cost.

well said tchitz. i read this similar post and reply from other threads. i appreciate to know that. lagi kasi yan naitatanong.

@tchitz - I appreciate your comments but yoy must realize we are talking about Mezza, no functioning HOA, no condominium corporation, no bylaws.. unit owners can correct me if I'm wrong for that. Another thing, the commercial areas here are not divided into
smaller units for lease, the ground floor is one big area owned by SM and part of parcels of buildings called Mezza Residences which is sold to the buyers. Ibig sabihin, this whole complex was built by Mezza Residences of SM Development Corporation and not by SM Holdings or whoever is running their supermarket chain. Lahat ng perang ginastos sa commercial area nanggaling sa budget ng Mezza Residences na naipasa na sa mga buyers. In short, laway lang ang puhunan ng SM sa pagpapatayo ng structure ng commercial area. The condominum corporation is not making any money here, walang lease agreement between the condo corp and bussiness establishments, and there is no condo corp to begin with.

So tapos na tayo sa construction phase, let us talk about accountability. In case lang na ang problema sa sewer system ng Mezza is traced underground magtatanong ka ngayon kung saan galing ang problema. The commercial area is part of the building so naturally kasama yan sa sewer system ng buong building. Papaano kung magkaroon ng overloading sa underground domestic cistern tank ng Mezza due to higher volume of waste generated
by the commercial establishment, pwede mo ba singilin ang SM for repair o manggagaling ang pambayad sa maintenance fee na siningil sa unit owners?

ningnicole, are you telling us na Mezza Residences unit owners lang ang mga customers ng commercial establishment. If it's exclysively for mezza residents at sila lang ang gumagamit ng utilities ng commercial area, plus regular staff, then tama ka there is no additional load sa mga utilities like sewer system.

But, but... mezza residents lang ba talaga ang mga customers?

SCUD there are HOA, condominium corporation and by laws. when i say no functioning HOA is a real representative from existing unit owners na voted by unitowners. this is how new condos are being run. na discuss na yan here previously na kahit wala pang hoa, SMDC did not wait for home owners to move. may existing ng HOA before we moved. obviously. you dont know much pa nga sa how Mezza was ran initially.

commercial area are divided for lease also....and you can not tell part and parcel lang ng Mezza ang owned ng buyers. by floor area ang commercial units nga ang part and parcel lang. :ohno: i cant imagine the scenario you are putting. Tchitzs' explanation who looks may knowledge sa ganyang system or set-up makes more sense.

i am not telling na Mezza Residences unit owners lang ang mga customers ng commercial establishments sa baba - madaming customers. i just commendted sa sinabi mong SMDC mixing ng commercial establishment sa residential and use of utilities- na kamo instead na known ang number residents nahahaluan pa ng population ng commercial establishment. so i mentioned ano advantage ng magkadikit na residential units at commercial establishments in terms of utilities. na puwdeng maging kabawasan sa load ang mga condo tenants, kasi since accessible nga siya, time spent (probability to use utilities) in these establishment by condo owners are reduced.

and i dont see anything bad on such arrangement. kaya nga naging mabenta ang SMDC propertes is because of those establishments. i heard it direct sa parents ng mga studens na nag i stay sa Mezza. Napaka accessible daw sa mga kailangan ng anak nila like laundry shop, water station, photocopying, LBC, major banks, major resto, money changer, pharmacy, restaurants.Talking of safety, with such we can say low ang risk from crime ng mga tenants if ganito sila kalapit sa mga kailangan nila.

to all - i know SMDC is not perfect. madami pa silang dapat iimprove. they are very young in the business kaya the key is looking for the right person to run this kind of business. any building got their own and isolated issues. kahit nga 7 star hotel pa yan sa Dubai may issue sa wastewater. but i rather focus sa issue ng Mezza na kung saan nakatira now ang family ko. as said, us unit owners should talk and discuss the issues personally (though discussing it here is not an issue). i got may + and - dose of having my Mezza unit, pero in my 1st hoa meeting last year, i saw many sensible tenants. i want to believe na pag navote na yung owners representative, many positive things will happen.

SCUD there are HOA, condominium corporation and by laws. when i say no functioning HOA is a real representative from existing unit owners na voted by unitowners. this is how new condos are being run. na discuss na yan here previously na kahit wala pang hoa, SMDC did not wait for home owners to move. may existing ng HOA before we moved. obviously. you dont know much pa nga sa how Mezza was ran initially.

commercial area are divided for lease also....and you can not tell part and parcel lang ng Mezza ang owned ng buyers. by floor area ang commercial units nga ang part and parcel lang. :ohno: i cant imagine the scenario you are putting. Tchitzs' explanation who looks may knowledge sa ganyang system or set-up makes more sense.

Obviously we don't see eye to eye sa issue na to. Let's start with some questions again para simple, is SM Savemore part of Mezza Residences at nagbabayad ng maintenance fee and owned by condominium corporation? Kumikita ba ang condo corp ng dividend sa kita ng savemore?

If yes, then I apologize for not knowing about this whole set-up.

i am not telling na Mezza Residences unit owners lang ang mga customers ng commercial establishments sa baba - madaming customers. i just commendted sa sinabi mong SMDC mixing ng commercial establishment sa residential and use of utilities- na kamo instead na known ang number residents nahahaluan pa ng population ng commercial establishment. so i mentioned ano advantage ng magkadikit na residential units at commercial establishments in terms of utilities. na puwdeng maging kabawasan sa load ang mga condo tenants, kasi since accessible nga siya, time spent (probability to use utilities) in these establishment by condo owners are reduced.

and i dont see anything bad on such arrangement. kaya nga naging mabenta ang SMDC propertes is because of those establishments. i heard it direct sa parents ng mga studens na nag i stay sa Mezza. Napaka accessible daw sa mga kailangan ng anak nila like laundry shop, water station, photocopying, LBC, major banks, major resto, money changer, pharmacy, restaurants.Talking of safety, with such we can say low ang risk from crime ng mga tenants if ganito sila kalapit sa mga kailangan nila.



I don't argue with the positive impacts SMDC brings here, there's no argument about the convenience this set-up brings. Ang sinasabi ko lang nagkakaproblema yan pagdating sa accountability kung may mangyaring problema. If you happen to know Zoning ordinances and Land Use planning may iba-ibang classification ang mga buildings (residential, semi-business, businesss, commercial, etc.). At sa bawat classifications na yan may iba-ibang batayan for tax collection, water usage, garbage collection at iba pang utilities. Ang tanong diyan ano ba ang classification ng building niyo for tax and utility purposes? Are you a residential building or semi business or commercial? Kung ang sinisingil ng Quezon City government sa inyo is for residential use bracket, aba eh baka kulang naman ang binabayad niyo. Kung singilin naman kayo as semi-business building eh papaano naman ang mga hindi bumibili diyan pero nagbabayad ng malaking tax?

I agree that if there are issues on traffic congestion, the government should have not given SMDC permit to build without having a plan.

i am just pointing out. it doesn't mean because the gov't gave permit or it allows it, pinagaralan na nila ng mabuti yan. ang daming palpak ng gov't natin. lagi iniisip mga short term benefits lang. also basta may lagay, halos lahat puwede kahit hindi puwede o hindi dapat o kahit magkakaproblema ito sa future. i know you know that don't you?


unsolicited advise for you keyo, make one step forward to act or do something to lessen these socio-economics issues in our country (apart from providing advise in this forum). but we need to open our eyes na 3rd world country tayo and these issues are not only in the Philippines. Dito nga sa Abu Dhabi na napaka liit pa ng population (at napakayamang bansa), may bus overloading pa din, sa city siyempre. Masyado mahabang usapin yan in the point of economy.

yun nga ang masama. hanggang ngayon 3rd world country pa rin tayo given na maaabilidad ang mga pinoy. why is that other countries can harness pinoy's abilities and talent but in our own country hindi natin magawa?

you also know before 2nd best tayo sa asia, 2nd only to japan. dollar exchange rate is 2 pesos to 1 dollar. would you consider that a 3rd world country? now naunahan na tayo ng mga ibang 3rd world country na dumanas pa ng giyera? tapos habang tumatagal pababa pa tayo ng pababa? tama ba sabihing "we need to open our eyes na kasi 3rd world country tayo"? tapos accept na lang natin yan at lagi na lang tayong 3rd world country?

regarding government employees, yung parang mga walang utak mga nakaupo at incompetent eh dont generalize. madami scholar ng bayan na matatalino at serving back to the government. pero di lang naman utak o talino ang kailangan sa implementation, it's full support. main question is may enough funds and police power ba ang government to do that? hulihin mo man mga vendors na yan o ikulong, ilalagay lang sila kulungan at government pa din ang magpapakain sa kanila sa kulungan? di naman yan makakapag multa kasi nga wala silang pera so think over. as said, napakahabang usapin nyan.

pag ganyan tayo magisip, bakit kailangan pa gumawa ng batas kung hindi naman kayang ma-impliment? para panakot? kung ganoon, no wonder dumami ng ganoon at lumala ng ganito ang sitwasyon.

it doesn't have to be ang gov't ang magpapakain sa kanila. if the gov't is competent, makakaisip yan ng way para makagawa ng livelihood project para sa mga preso na puwedeng magwork ang mga preso para may income na panggastos sa pagpapakain sa kanila. the other benefit of that, pag labas nila ng kulungan, may alam na silang ikakabuhay nila. instead na nakaupo lang lagi sa bilibid at kung mainip, mangaaway. iba yung may pinagkakaabalahan sila para hindi makapagisip manggulo at mangaway.

it's true maganda ang may full support, pero kailan pa mangyayari yun? posible pa ba mangyari yun? it's been how many years na? yan pa rin ba aantayin natin before may magbago? there will never be and will never happen na magkakaroon ng full support sa isang bansa. tell me one country na may ganoon na umasenso. mayroon ba? for sure daming kokontra kung hindi sila makikinabang. given na yan. what we need is political will. gagawin niya kung ano ang tama kahit maraming tatamaan o hindi susuporta. tama ba sinabi ko? do you want me to tell you kung ilang country ang may ganito na umasenso?

i also agree maraming matatalino dito. pero dahil sa sistema ng pagpapalakad ng bansa at ng mga nakaupo, hindi sila nabibigyan ng oportunidad. mga sakim ang mga nakaupo. as proof, bakit sa tingin mo kung mayor ang tatay, itutulak na maging mayor din ang anak o asawa? ang sistema sa atin, it doesn't matter what you know, but rather who you know." kung may backing ka ng mayor, governor, congressman, senator o presidente, for sure madali kang mauupo sa puwesto. di ba tama ako?

as mentioned socio-economic issues then samahan mo pa ng politics - mahabang usapin yan. out of topic na dito sa thread ng mezza.

just my last post regarding that, i served the government ng more than 10 years, aside sa 5yrs private consulting, at hindi ako yumaman. kaya nga ako nag abroad kasi nadagdagan ang anak ko at kinukulang na sahod naming magasawa. there are many things easily said that done. dati ang dali ng NGOs mag impose ng dapat gawin, nung sila na pinaupo sa govt office after marcos mga wala di pala magawa with the given situation, fund and deadlines! nilunok din mga idealismo nila. given sa pinas na sobra sa human rights, you cant implement much kahit ang daming batas. patayin mo criminal, masama ka kasi di mo binigyan chance. at san mo pakukuhanin ng livelihood fund ang mga vendors na ikukulong mo? yung criminals nga na nakakulong di pa nila maayos eh. well, naniniwala akong best solution is deal na lang sa grassroot. i am not saying im 100% right. pero baka sa kabataan, sa murang gulang eh na influence mo na sila na wag mangurakot, sumunod sa batas, tumulong sa kapwa. etc. kahit marami ang di sumusunod eh at least kami sa family ko, alam ko na "malinis kami". alam ko madaming ganyan din ang pananaw. :cheers:

Obviously we don't see eye to eye sa issue na to. Let's start with some questions again para simple, is SM Savemore part of Mezza Residences at nagbabayad ng maintenance fee and owned by condominium corporation? Kumikita ba ang condo corp ng dividend sa kita ng savemore?

If yes, then I apologize for not knowing about this whole set-up.

i brought it up before. i saw may mga billboards na nakalagay sa mezza and i asked if may income ba nakukuha ang HOA. kasi given na yung lupa at building dapat nasa pagaari ng mga unit owners ng mezza. anong income o mayroon ba nakukuha ang HOA dito? if wala at sabihin na may owner ang commercial property sa labas at parang pinaparent lang nila ito tulad ng pagpaparent ng ibang owners sa ibang tao (like sa mga students etc), nagbabayad ba ng association dues ang mga owner/s ng commercial establishment sa labas? nagbabayad din ba sila ng fire insurace ng building etc sa HOA? hindi ba part din sila ng building na pagaari ng HOA? pangit naman isipin na sila ang may pera at may malaking income na nakukuha, sila pa ang lulusot at malilibre.

also if smdc will retain the ownership of the rooftops, don't they also have to pay asso dues etc that depends on the size of the property they own? its like they own the whole top floors. unfair naman kung hindi. tapos in the end pag nagkuwentahan, kasali sila sa perpetual ownership.

As far as I know:

Let's start with some questions again para simple, is SM Savemore part of Mezza Residences at nagbabayad ng maintenance fee and owned by condominium corporation? No

Kumikita ba ang condo corp ng dividend sa kita ng savemore? No

My basis is because this was not told to us when we had 1st HOA orientation (which is prerequisite before moving) pero walang election pa na naganap kasi dapat more than 50% or 60% daw muna ng tenants ang nag accept/move in before doing such. Other unit owners can correct this if wrong. Occasionally, natatanong ko ang CBRE regarding HOA funds like kita sa pool etc. pero basic questions like who is keeping the money. Never did they mentioned na may income kami from save more, etc. which may explain the reason why nung nabaha sila sa ondoy at nag close ng ilang araw, walang namention ang CBRE na nabawasan ang HOA fees namin for their maintenance.

I wonder if may existing residential condos na may commercial spaces din sa baba at residential unit owners get share from it. I am not familiar with that pero as indicated, tchitz post about the arrangement makes more sense to me.

Obviously we don't see eye to eye sa issue na to. Let's start with some questions again para simple, is SM Savemore part of Mezza Residences?
Yes, SM Savemore is part of the Mezza Residences Condominium Corporation
...at nagbabayad ng maintenance fee?
Yes
...and owned by condominium corporation?
Not the business and proceeds of the operation of SM Savemore; but the space it occupies, although it is owned by SM Savemore, is also within the domain of the Mezza Residences Condominoum Corporation.
...Kumikita ba ang condo corp ng dividend sa kita ng savemore?
No. Because the commercial establishments, although part of the condominium corporation, has its own separate owners, and not part of the ‘common property’. As such, it is subject to the payment of condominium corporation fees that is apportioned to their unit. As with regards to the utilities (water and electrical usage) incurred by the commercial establishments, they have their own separate meters for this purpose, no different than the residential units have their own separate meters metering their individual usage.

So,s a question na "Nagbabayad ba ang SM Savemore ng maintenance fee?"

ningnicole - No

tchitz - Yes

I wonder if may existing residential condos na may commercial spaces din sa baba at residential unit owners get share from it. I am not familiar with that pero as indicated, tchitz post about the arrangement makes more sense to me.

meron ata. Victoria Towers sa may Timog has Starbucks, Robinsons supermarket, Mang Inasal, Ministop sa ground level. Not sure what's the set up...i think the space is leased to them.

No. Because the commercial establishments, although part of the condominium corporation, has its own separate owners, and not part of the ‘common property’. As such, it is subject to the payment of condominium corporation fees that is apportioned to their unit. As with regards to the utilities (water and electrical usage) incurred by the commercial establishments, they have their own separate meters for this purpose, no different than the residential units have their own separate meters metering their individual usage.

tchitz, given na yan na SM savemore ang magbabayad ng water and power usage ng sariling business nila of course. But my question is, nagbabayad ba ang SM savemore ng maintenance fee sa condo corp.

Think of it this way, Mezza Residences have water pipes and 2 overhead water tanks owned and maintained by the condo corp. Normal lang na magbayad din ng maintenance fee ang mga commercial establshments na gumagamit ng utilities, di ba?

...If you happen to know Zoning ordinances and Land Use planning may iba-ibang classification ang mga buildings (residential, semi-business, businesss, commercial, etc.). At sa bawat classifications na yan may iba-ibang batayan for tax collection, water usage, garbage collection at iba pang utilities. Ang tanong diyan ano ba ang classification ng building niyo for tax and utility purposes? Are you a residential building or semi business or commercial? Kung ang sinisingil ng Quezon City government sa inyo is for residential use bracket, aba eh baka kulang naman ang binabayad niyo. Kung singilin naman kayo as semi-business building eh papaano naman ang mga hindi bumibili diyan pero nagbabayad ng malaking tax?The classification is ‘Mixed-use’, with both commercial and residential usage. The commercial unit owners are charged by the city for their property tax based on commercial zoning, and pay their utilities based on commercial rate. Likewise, the residential unit owners are charged by the city for their property tax based on residential zoning, and pay their utilities based on residential rate. The maintenance of common property shared by both commercial and residential elements is paid for by the condominium corporation taken from the funds coming from the condominium fees paid by both, and each of them pay their own maintenance fees based on their square footage (commercial) or unit factors (residential) as defined in the condominium by-laws.

The classification is ‘Mixed-use’, with both commercial and residential usage. The commercial unit owners are charged by the city for their property tax based on commercial zoning, and pay their utilities based on commercial rate. Likewise, the residential unit owners are charged by the city for their property tax based on residential zoning, and pay their utilities based on residential rate. The maintenance of common property shared by both commercial and residential elements is paid for by the condominium corporation taken from the funds coming from the condominium fees paid by both, and each of them pay their own maintenance fees based on their square footage or unit factors as defined in the condominium by-laws.

I agree na kailangan din magabayad ng maintenance fee ang commercial establishments like SM savemore based on per square meters of usage.

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He he he he he. Since everything is now clear, I think I’m going to temporarily take a break in my participation in this forum for a week because I still have to prepare for our flight to Las Vegas for a week of golfing with my better half. When temperatures here in Alberta reached -30 degrees centigrade at the start of the week, I am feeling the urge to go down south to play some rounds of golfing.

the question I answered is " Is SM Savemore part of Mezza Residences at nagbabayad ng maintenance fee and owned by condominium corporation?

just to be clear my answer is "i think (which could not be correct) they are not part of mezza residences at di sila nagbabayad ng maintenance fee sa hoa ng mezza. for sure may binabayaran din silang maintenance fees but it is not to mezza hoa.

also, i dont think part sila ng mezza residences per se. what i mean is di sila part ng common areas ng mezza and what i read sa mga documents na nakuha ko, they specified the common areas in sqm and mentioned na part ng maintenance fees ng binabarayan namin ang maintenance ng common areas na yan...they mentioned income sa pools, function rooms and cabanas. at if part ng maintenance ng mezza ang save more eh di sana same maintenance group hired by CBRE should be serving all establishments sa baba ng Mezza.

if in any case eh we can get income from these establishment - eh di thanks god! but this will be my last response because it does not make any sense to me.

the question I answered is " Is SM Savemore part of Mezza Residences at nagbabayad ng maintenance fee and owned by condominium corporation?

It is part of the Condominium Corporation, and the Condominium Corporation has separate defined Commercial Elements, Residential Elements, as well as Shared Elements.

...just to be clear my answer is "i think (which could not be correct) they are not part of mezza residences.

In a large Condominium Establishment with Commercial and Residential Elements, although both are within the Condominium Corporation, usually a separate committee (also sometimes called as Commercial Board) is formed for administering the activities of the commercial element. I must emphasize however, that this Commercial Board is really only a separate committee, and therefore still part of the Condominium Corporation and not a separate entity or corporation. Hence when you say Mezza Residences, you picture in your mind the part that belongs to the residential elements only.

...at di sila nagbabayad ng maintenance fee sa hoa ng mezza. for sure may binabayaran din silang maintenance fees but it is not to mezza hoa.

Well, they pay a maintenance fee to the same Condominium Corporation based on their square footage to cover their part of shared cost of Commercial and Shared Elements.

...also, i dont think part sila ng mezza residences per se. what i mean is di sila part ng common areas ng mezza

Yes to this. There are defined separate Common Areas for Residential exclusive use only, Commercial exclusive use only, as well as Shared Common Areas.


...and what i read sa mga documents na nakuha ko, they specified the common areas in sqm and mentioned na part ng maintenance fees ng binabarayan namin ang maintenance ng common areas na yan...they mentioned income sa pools, function rooms and cabanas.

Same as above. Income generated by the use of the exclusive residential areas goes to a separate bucket for the benefit of the residential owners only.


...at if part ng maintenance ng mezza ang save more eh di sana same maintenance group hired by CBRE should be serving all establishments sa baba ng Mezza.

For efficiency and specialization, it is sometimes best to hire separate maintenance group to administer the commercial and residential elements separately.

...if in any case eh we can get income from these establishment - eh di thanks god! but this will be my last response because it does not make any sense to me.
Neither to me.

^ Agree. The bottomline is, all commercial establishmets including SM Savemore has to pay its share of maintenance fee to the condo corp for using Mezza Residences infrastructure.

As long as the Condominium structure with Commercial and Residential Elements, was built in such a manner where they have Common Property or Shared Elements, like concrete slab forming the ceiling of the Commercial Units and the floor of the podium level, structural concrete slab forming the floor of the Commercial Units and the roof of the parkade, sidewalks, landscaping, walkways, drive ailes & roadways, loading docks, stalls and doors, garbage collection staging area, common chillers located in the buildings intended to provide air conditioning for both the residential and commercial area, electrical power supplies, etc. etc.... intended to service or be used by both the commercial and residential units, in common; then, there can only exist one general owner, and that is the Condominium Corporation. If the structure of the building was built in such a way, that they don’t have any Shared Elements or Common Areas, but rather clear and separate boundaries of ownership, then yes you can have two separate General Owners. I currently own a residential unit that I rent out, and the entire building block consist of twin towers with its own residential and commercial spaces, but there is a vertical concrete wall separating the two, and each has its own separate Condominium Corporation & its own Condominium Board. The only reason why this was possible was because they have no shared elements or common property.

Now, I must confess I don’t know how the building was structured/built in Mezza, but if they have shared elements and common property, then the space that SM Savemore unit occupies in Mezza is part of the Condominium Corporation, and by extension, pays their share of maintenance fee.

As long as the Condominium structure with Commercial and Residential Elements, was built in such a manner where they have Common Property or Shared Elements, like concrete slab forming the ceiling of the Commercial Units and the floor of the podium level, structural concrete slab forming the floor of the Commercial Units and the roof of the parkade, sidewalks, landscaping, walkways, drive ailes & roadways, loading docks, stalls and doors, garbage collection staging area, common chillers located in the buildings intended to provide air conditioning for both the residential and commercial area, electrical power supplies, etc. etc.... intended to service or be used by both the commercial and residential units, in common; then, there can only exist one general owner, and that is the Condominium Corporation. If the structure of the building was built in such a way, that they don’t have any Shared Elements or Common Areas, but rather clear and separate boundaries of ownership, then yes you can have two separate General Owners. I currently own a residential unit that I rent out, and the entire building block consist of twin towers with its own residential and commercial spaces, but there is a concrete wall separating the two, and each has its own separate Condominium Corporation & its own Condominium Board. The only reason why this was possible was because they have no shared elements or common property.

Now, I must confess I don’t know how the building was structured/built in Mezza, but if they have shared elements and common property, then the space that SM Savemore unit occupies in Mezza is part of the Condominium Corporation, and by extension, pays their share of maintenance fee.

I guess somebody from SMDC or a unit owner who is more familiar with the specifics of the Condominium Corporation are the only ones who can clarify these issues.

Pang chillax lang :lol: : nagshooting daw sila Anne Curtis, Candy Pangilinan and DJ Durano sa Mezza kanina. Some scenes were taken daw sa pool, elevator and 38F...madaming na excite na mezza kids kanina as posted sa mga FBs nila :hahaha:

issue na naman 'yan. Saan mapupunta ngayon 'yung bayad ng movie company for using Mezza as their shooting location? he he he

issue na naman 'yan. Saan mapupunta ngayon 'yung bayad ng movie company for using Mezza as their shooting location? he he he

:nuts::cheers: hahaha super natawa ako dun! if may share mga unit owners - thanks god! madadagdagan ang yaman ng mga mezza unit owners! magandang benefits ata ito at puwedeng maging one of the main selling points if indeed may share sa income ang mga unit owners. pero wag na lang if sa mga main building issues :ohno: hehehe

nag-organize na ba ng HOA ang mezza? sinu-sino kaya ang mga naka-upo?

Merry Christmas Unit Owners! Our 2nd in Mezza Residences....:cheers:

How much po ang asso dues dito now per sqm? Thanks.

anybody here who has an idea kung gano katagal processing ng smdc pag nag-cancel ng contract?...how long will it take bago makuha yung refund?

refund? why did you think they will give you refund?

How much po ang asso dues dito now per sqm? Thanks.

its 60/sqm way back May 2009. sa mga lumipat they asked for 6mos hoa dues for such rate but until this wala pang new payments done. we were advised na magbababa yan depends sa new set of officers na most or less in placed na. welcome! tower ano ka?

Hi ningnicole,

May i ask kung nakuha mo na CTS at master deed mo? If yes, ilan months after pinakafirst payment/reservation mo nakuha?

Hello everyone! Been following this forum for a while -- just to keep up on the Mezza Residences' progress over the years -- but never really had anything to post.

Anyway, I need to try this:
We're re-selling our 2BR unit (tower 2, 6th floor). 41.67 sqm, no balcony, facing away from amenities. Php 3.8M asking price (negotiable) + assume balance (Php 44K/month until July 2012). It's not furnished but it's RFO. Have copy of CTS and master deed pa lang. We need to sell it because of some family medical/health issues that came up unexpectedly -- have to redirect finances.

If anyone is interested or knows someone who'd like to buy, please PM me. Thanks a lot!

Hi ningnicole,

May i ask kung nakuha mo na CTS at master deed mo? If yes, ilan months after pinakafirst payment/reservation mo nakuha?

hi NotA, yes po meron na. ang tanda ko tapos na deposit ko ng 2 years nung nakuha ko CTS at master deed ko kasi nasa abroad ako. Baka available na sya ng mas earlier pero di ko lang nakuha agad kasi di ako nag SPA for representative. Lahat eh direct to me.

Thanks Ning. Really appreciate it. :)

sir's any news po about mezza turn over na ba?

hi NotA, yes po meron na. ang tanda ko tapos na deposit ko ng 2 years nung nakuha ko CTS at master deed ko kasi nasa abroad ako. Baka available na sya ng mas earlier pero di ko lang nakuha agad kasi di ako nag SPA for representative. Lahat eh direct to me.

hi ning,

may babayaran ba tayo property tax sa mezza?