hi ning,

may babayaran ba tayo property tax sa mezza?

opo pag nasa atin na condo title natin. they applied for that daw, i mean siguro for few na paid na. for mine kasi sabi naiapply na the last time (nov 2010) i submitted pdcs for my parking slot. paguwi ko next month i will follow up.

This project never cease to amaze me! Kamusta kaya feedback sa market ng Mezza 2?

Hi. Has anyone recently paid for the fire ins and Mortgage redemption ins. ?

just want to know kung meron ba kayong exhaust sa mezza? sa grass kasi filter lang daw and no provision para sa exhaust,so amoy pa rin pag magluto, how about sa mezza?

If anyone wants a painting as added interior design of your condominium, send me a private message. i can recommend a visual artist! Paintings are cheaper when buying directly from the artist rather than the gallery.

Hello mezza owners me na ka advertise na duon sa mezza araneta side si Ann Curtis...sa smdc iyung naka ad na iyun di ba .....kaya lang magbabayad ba sila sa mezza owners ng fee..Me Gym na kaya dun....owner din ako kaya lang pina rent ko unit ko:bash:

Finish contract na yung umuupa sa akin this April one year na sila... Baka me gusto umupa sa inyo furnish siya one bedroom t4... 16thousand a month.pm me

what is this nonsense statement? haven't you heard of perpetual ownership? please stop posting false sweeping statements and start panic anong unit owners. this is really BS statement. nakakainit ng ulo ha! what do you think of investors, stupid people who does not do their homework? :nuts:


perpetual ownership is the right term po for this issue :bash:


and hello owners of mezza residence im in need po of 3-bedroom unfurnished for sale. i need po resale unit kase mas mura daw po. please reach me if you have po 0921-3093855

Terms Exclusive for 2BR units with VAT

A. Spot 5%, 5% payable in 3 months, 90% bank financing or lump sum. (with
12% discount)

B. Spot 10%, 10% payable in 6 months, 80% bank financing or lump sum.(with 12% discount)

C. Spot 5%, 15% payable in 12 months, 80% balance bank financing or lump
sum. (with 10% discount)

D. Spot 3%, 5% payable in 3 months, 10% payable in 9 months, 82%
bank financing lump sum. (with 10% discount)

E. Spot 10%, 15%payable in 18 months, 75% bank financing or lump sum. (with 8% discount)


The PAYLITE Term is applicable only to PH, 1+1, 3BR units.



mam aziza baka po may resale kayong 3bedroom need ko po asap cash po ang terms of payment. reach me po 0921-3093855

Hello po. Meron po ba dito nakaexperience na ibenta yung unit nila after turnover? Pano po ang process nun?

Thanks in advance po.

musta na mga unit owners? i just came from 1 week holiday sa pinas. grabe busy sa mezza for party venue rental. its 4,500 for half of the M bar and twice kong nakita na may 2 parties at the same time which means 9k for such occassion. iba pa rental sa gazebo. magandang source ng fund ito ng hoa.

good things na nakita ko for a week: (1) may everyday morning exercise ang mga ladies sa grass area (2) may friday saturday soccer games mga kiddos from 4 to past 5pm (3) dami pa din nagsuswim (4) well maintained pa din main lobby, 5th floor lobby and each floor hallways naman (5) active pa din mga security personnel (6) cooperative pa din mga cbre staff

not so nice na napansin ko (1) some "melted" elevator buttons which i alerady observed last uwi ko nung november (2) vandalism sa service elevators na obviously from iranians. dapat talga may camera sa elevator para pag nakita sino culprit, icharge yung unit owner (3) too much yaya around na tsikahan ng tsikahan. no offense pero dapat ilimit ito ng hoa later. they should only be allowed to loiter with their alaga around. dati sabi sa hoa rules bawal sla mag swim pero i heard may 1 yaya na nagpa bday swimming party :ohno: (4) sana ilimit mga guests na gagamit ng pool especially pag weekend. i heard na unlimited ang number ng guests though paying eh di rin super okey. dapat pag weekend tipong may limited number ng guests lang allowed. hoa should look on this later (5) yung fountain sa 5th pool is not working (6) amenities sa 6th floor is still not working, di alam if function rooms na ba sya or gym? (7) sana magka changing room near sa pool area (8) sana well ventilated ang grass area at yung paligid ng 5th floor. i heard some stories na may mga guard and yaya na nagdidate sa mga madilim na areas na ito.

wala pang functional hoa but i think may tentative schedule na sila ng botohan but may mga activie unit owners na nagpapirma ng mga concerns nila - which is well appreciated. di ako makangal pa ng sobra sa ibang amenities na di pa nadedeliver kasi we are not paying hoa fees naman since we moved except for 6mos advance. i was told before na nautilized na yun pero yung next payment eh paguusapan pa ng manonominate na hoa officers.

Hello po. Meron po ba dito nakaexperience na ibenta yung unit nila after turnover? Pano po ang process nun?

Thanks in advance po.
i did. if in your case na turn overed na po yung unit. it means nai-loan nyo na sya sa bank so the title is already in your name not sm, so if ever you will sell your property the arrangement is you will transfer the title to the buyer. you will pay 6% for the capital gains and 1.5% for other charges etc...
mas madali po idispose property if ever may balance pa kayong dapat i-settle becoz the process of transfering the title will be from SM to the buyer directly.

sir's any news po about mezza turn over na ba?





FYI owners. there will be a meeting regarding the home-owners association this april. i will post the date in advance so all the owners can join the meeting raise your concerns and vote for your officers of mezza.
the admin ( in advance ) will put notice letters in all elevator before the meeting.
pls share this msg to the owners abroad. see you po...

sir's any news po about mezza turn over na ba?





FYI owners. there will be a meeting regarding the home-owners association this april. i will post the date in advance so all the owners can join the meeting raise your concerns and vote for your officers of mezza.
the admin ( in advance ) :banana:will put notice letters in all elevator before the meeting.
pls share this msg to the owners abroad. see you po...

i did. if in your case na turn overed na po yung unit. it means nai-loan nyo na sya sa bank so the title is already in your name not sm, so if ever you will sell your property the arrangement is you will transfer the title to the buyer. you will pay 6% for the capital gains and 1.5% for other charges etc...
mas madali po idispose property if ever may balance pa kayong dapat i-settle becoz the process of transfering the title will be from SM to the buyer directly.

The title is not in your name if it is mortgaged to the bank...

I am a proud owner of a unit here, am currently renting it out for 11500. Parang mura yata no? Baka taasan ko sa next contract, facing east pa naman sa akin at nasa 21st floor

I am a proud owner of a unit here, am currently renting it out for 11500. Parang mura yata no? Baka taasan ko sa next contract, facing east pa naman sa akin at nasa 21st floor

medyo mura nga :) mabait ka naman siguro kasi. furnished ba? may iba ako kilala eh 13-15k ang pa rent nila. well nagparent din ako ng parking space ko for almost 2 years at mura din bigay ko, pero kinuha ko na now, im sure sad ang tenant ko :ohno:

to all unit owners: alam ko start na ang formation ng hoa kasi last day, i heard nagka initial meeting na and my nanay attended. wish the officers to be voted will be so focused and have the good feeling of the real needs of the majority. we need an ACTION MAN not a bla bla bla person. I can see many things na dapat pang iimprove so good luck sa election.

last 2 weeks ako before going back here in abu dhabi, nagka Red Cross Training nga pala sa ating lugar which is a very nice initiative.

thank you everyone for the updates,my tenant is very happy sa management ng Mezza and sana maimprove pa when the officers are being set up.I am renting mine for 15000/a month fully furnished.
Hi ning,glad to hear from you.

thank you everyone for the updates,my tenant is very happy sa management ng Mezza and sana maimprove pa when the officers are being set up.I am renting mine for 15000/a month fully furnished.
Hi ning,glad to hear from you.

musta ka na? hows Japan now? Nakauwi nga pala ako ulit 2 weeks ago for a week and i am coming back again by end of the month for a month. Magtake ako ng pics for you. daming new restos/food shops now. occupied na halos lahat ng stalls sa baba which include photo printing, mobile accessories, etc. nagamit na natin ang parking slot namin and matao na nga sya compared last time we were there together...see you soon again!

i did. if in your case na turn overed na po yung unit. it means nai-loan nyo na sya sa bank so the title is already in your name not sm, so if ever you will sell your property the arrangement is you will transfer the title to the buyer. you will pay 6% for the capital gains and 1.5% for other charges etc...
mas madali po idispose property if ever may balance pa kayong dapat i-settle becoz the process of transfering the title will be from SM to the buyer directly.


Thanks po.

musta ka na? hows Japan now? Nakauwi nga pala ako ulit 2 weeks ago for a week and i am coming back again by end of the month for a month. Magtake ako ng pics for you. daming new restos/food shops now. occupied na halos lahat ng stalls sa baba which include photo printing, mobile accessories, etc. nagamit na natin ang parking slot namin and matao na nga sya compared last time we were there together...see you soon again!

Hi ning,good for you,I am jealous kasi you are enjoying our place,we are ok here in japan but we have to adjust also for the sake of the affected.One thing maaamaze ka sa japanese people is how they deal with disasters in unity na I hope and pray maranasan natin in our country.
Sorry sa O.T,but good to hear about Mezza from you and happy kasi you always go to this thread to inform us about our place every time you go home.
If I am to ask,your tatay is one of my best candidate to be one of our officers because of his know how sa palakad aside from being the first resident ng Mezza.
Anyway hope to see you too.

^^ ning, question po. may garden unit/s or unit at amenity area ba ang mezza? ano hitsura? i'm just curious, asa amenity area kasi yung unit ko sa jazz.

^^ ning, question po. may garden unit/s or unit at amenity area ba ang mezza? ano hitsura? i'm just curious, asa amenity area kasi yung unit ko sa jazz.

hi, superboy!

ang amenity area ng mezza is sa 5th floor and may mga units sa 5th floor in all 4 towers po. ang hitsura is same sa other floors except sa tower 1 and 2 kasi may another lobby sa 5th floor hence in all other floors that will be units na. in short, mas konti ang units sa 5th floor ng tower 1 and 2. then part pa ng 6th floor pang amenity area at looks like view area sa 7th floor. naakyat ko yun dati, ito yung may 4 units na may malaking terrace/veranda overlooking mezza pool.

Hi ning,good for you,I am jealous kasi you are enjoying our place,we are ok here in japan but we have to adjust also for the sake of the affected.One thing maaamaze ka sa japanese people is how they deal with disasters in unity na I hope and pray maranasan natin in our country.
Sorry sa O.T,but good to hear about Mezza from you and happy kasi you always go to this thread to inform us about our place every time you go home.
If I am to ask,your tatay is one of my best candidate to be one of our officers because of his know how sa palakad aside from being the first resident ng Mezza.
Anyway hope to see you too.

hi baphi! good you are safe and ok there in Japan. naku in terms ng pagboto ng officers sana yung iba na lang na sanay sa mga project implementation. yes mabait parents ko at kilala na sla sa mezza pero we need a quality more than that. we need someone na makikinig sa mga hinaing ng owners at mag lead to address those things. supporting na lang sila ni nanay hehe :cheers:

hi ms. ningnicole! unit owner din kami ng husband ko sa mezza - sa tower 2 kami. i've been reading this forum pero ngayon lang ako nag-post. pwede ba malaman kung satisfied ka sa gumawa ng shower enclosure sa unit mo at kung mare-recommend mo sila sa amin. we are planning to have ours done this Oct. gaano katagal nila ginawa? if possible, hihingin ko sana ang contact info nila. thanks in advance! if you don't mind, paki-email na lang ako sa agnes.m.te@gmail.com. :)

hi ms. ningnicole! unit owner din kami ng husband ko sa mezza - sa tower 2 kami. i've been reading this forum pero ngayon lang ako nag-post. pwede ba malaman kung satisfied ka sa gumawa ng shower enclosure sa unit mo at kung mare-recommend mo sila sa amin. we are planning to have ours done this Oct. gaano katagal nila ginawa? if possible, hihingin ko sana ang contact info nila. thanks in advance! if you don't mind, paki-email na lang ako sa agnes.m.te@gmail.com. :)

hi agnes. actually ang gusto kong shower enclosure yung ready to install ng nabibili (mdami dyang magandang design sa tama ng sm centerpont) but unfortunately di nga fit sa ating unit. i tried asking them before na gawan ako ng mag puwede mag fit sa unit natin pero no one agreed.

anyway, i asked a friend who owns aluminium and glass works company. they installed mine (showe enclosure/partition) 2.5 X 1.6 and .55 x 1.5 sized powder coated white – with design for 12k. satisfied ako sa gawa nila pero that is not the kind of enclosure i want. after installation, okey na din :bash: :nuts: kasi i have a son na super likot at grabe makabukas-sara ng enclosure - meaning okey na din na ganun na lang muna enclosure namin now:cheers:

medyo mura nga :) mabait ka naman siguro kasi. furnished ba? may iba ako kilala eh 13-15k ang pa rent nila. well nagparent din ako ng parking space ko for almost 2 years at mura din bigay ko, pero kinuha ko na now, im sure sad ang tenant ko :ohno:

to all unit owners: alam ko start na ang formation ng hoa kasi last day, i heard nagka initial meeting na and my nanay attended. wish the officers to be voted will be so focused and have the good feeling of the real needs of the majority. we need an ACTION MAN not a bla bla bla person. I can see many things na dapat pang iimprove so good luck sa election.

last 2 weeks ako before going back here in abu dhabi, nagka Red Cross Training nga pala sa ating lugar which is a very nice initiative.

Hindi siya furnished. Pagkabigay ng susi tinurnover ko na agad. baka taasan ko siya ng 1k sa next contract namin para sagot na niya yung monthly na association dues kasi total siya rin naman nakakagamit ng amenities hehehe.

Anung unit yung nakuha mo? if ever anung long term plan mo sa unit mo? ako kasi first condo ko ito so for now habang binabayaran ko pa amortization sa bangko, pinapaupa ko muna, pero if ever kung may interested bumili, tsaka na siguro ako makikipagnegotiate

Hindi siya furnished. Pagkabigay ng susi tinurnover ko na agad. baka taasan ko siya ng 1k sa next contract namin para sagot na niya yung monthly na association dues kasi total siya rin naman nakakagamit ng amenities hehehe.

Anung unit yung nakuha mo? if ever anung long term plan mo sa unit mo? ako kasi first condo ko ito so for now habang binabayaran ko pa amortization sa bangko, pinapaupa ko muna, pero if ever kung may interested bumili, tsaka na siguro ako makikipagnegotiate

mine is 2br with balcony. wala pa akong solid long term plan, pero before kami tumira nung 2009 eh nag plan ako ibenta sya kasi may nagustuhan akong house and lot pero di agad nagka response so pinalipat ko muna kids and parents ko. nagkaka offer ako pero di kasi pwde ng di after schooling ang pagbenta so yun nag stop na din. i paid mine in cash pero until next pa ako matapos sa pagbabayad ng loan sa bank here abroad. pwde din paupa ko then kukuha ako ng another house and lot at yung rent ang pangbayad ko new property pero saka ko na yan isipin after full payment next year.

Ahh wise choice yan mas mura ang interest rates sa ibang bansa yata kaysa sa dito hehehe. Ang magandang house and lot sa laguna nga lang yung Amaia Scapes Laguna. Nakakuha ako for 900K lang. Ayala property siya sa may Calamba, Laguna

Ahh wise choice yan mas mura ang interest rates sa ibang bansa yata kaysa sa dito hehehe. Ang magandang house and lot sa laguna nga lang yung Amaia Scapes Laguna. Nakakuha ako for 900K lang. Ayala property siya sa may Calamba, Laguna

bigger lot (not less than 200sqm) and bigger house na sana next na target namin. oo mas mure interest here at walang hassle, 2 days lang release ng loan.

Hindi siya furnished. Pagkabigay ng susi tinurnover ko na agad. baka taasan ko siya ng 1k sa next contract namin para sagot na niya yung monthly na association dues kasi total siya rin naman nakakagamit ng amenities hehehe.

Anung unit yung nakuha mo? if ever anung long term plan mo sa unit mo? ako kasi first condo ko ito so for now habang binabayaran ko pa amortization sa bangko, pinapaupa ko muna, pero if ever kung may interested bumili, tsaka na siguro ako makikipagnegotiate



FYI OWNERS SPECIALLY ALL THE OWNERS IN ABROAD:
There has been a letter given to all the owners in mezza now or maybe they slide it in under your doors saying that they will increase the association dues from 60 to 70 per sqm... now most of the owners na ininform ko ( im an spa of most of the units na for rent in mezza ) the sure thing in the letter is they will retro the payment from the time of acceptance of unit until now, and 1 thing they indicated in the letter that starting january 2011 they will charge the P.70 per sqm upto now, so they will just less the 6months assoc you paid before moving in then they will compute the remaining months until now...
now we had some gatherings in the 5th floor headed by owners in tower-3 that they will write a letter to smdc (main office) and to MR.HENRY SY that they are willing to pay all the necessary dues but they have to complete first the amenities indicated in the flyers and provide security cameras to specific places like elevator and parking... i'll try to upload the letter that came from the head of admin ciao

Hindi siya furnished. Pagkabigay ng susi tinurnover ko na agad. baka taasan ko siya ng 1k sa next contract namin para sagot na niya yung monthly na association dues kasi total siya rin naman nakakagamit ng amenities hehehe.

Anung unit yung nakuha mo? if ever anung long term plan mo sa unit mo? ako kasi first condo ko ito so for now habang binabayaran ko pa amortization sa bangko, pinapaupa ko muna, pero if ever kung may interested bumili, tsaka na siguro ako makikipagnegotiate




FYI po ulet... (to all the owners na nag-papaupa i have a request lang po)
im a broker po handling rentals in mezza now i have atleast 30 units na hawak all for rent, so this assoc on the way will surely affect all the prices of rentals in mezza. i suggest din po all owners to have a uniformed price for studio-1br-2br etc... coz now were having a problem disposing units in the regular price kase there are some agents and brokers lowering the price of the units kumita lang which is not good to mezza. imagine renting your fully furnished studio unit for 10k only! then others unit for unfurnished is 11k upto 13k.
im just saying that if we let this happen the money you invested to your property in mezza will surely depreciate. how can you sell your property in a nice price when the buyers will have an idea that they will purchase your property tapos ganun lang rent? it happened na po to the units i handle kaya im sharing and hopefully all of you can contribute something for making a solution to this unforseen problem that may affect all your investments and properties in mezza. tnx po nyt na ;)

FYI po ulet... (to all the owners na nag-papaupa i have a request lang po)
im a broker po handling rentals in mezza now i have atleast 30 units na hawak all for rent, so this assoc on the way will surely affect all the prices of rentals in mezza. i suggest din po all owners to have a uniformed price for studio-1br-2br etc... coz now were having a problem disposing units in the regular price kase there are some agents and brokers lowering the price of the units kumita lang which is not good to mezza. imagine renting your fully furnished studio unit for 10k only! then others unit for unfurnished is 11k upto 13k.
im just saying that if we let this happen the money you invested to your property in mezza will surely depreciate. how can you sell your property in a nice price when the buyers will have an idea that they will purchase your property tapos ganun lang rent? it happened na po to the units i handle kaya im sharing and hopefully all of you can contribute something for making a solution to this unforseen problem that may affect all your investments and properties in mezza. tnx po nyt na ;)

Thank you so much for this effort to post this here,very informative and I really appreciate it.

FYI OWNERS SPECIALLY ALL THE OWNERS IN ABROAD:
There has been a letter given to all the owners in mezza now or maybe they slide it in under your doors saying that they will increase the association dues from 60 to 70 per sqm... now most of the owners na ininform ko ( im an spa of most of the units na for rent in mezza ) the sure thing in the letter is they will retro the payment from the time of acceptance of unit until now, and 1 thing they indicated in the letter that starting january 2011 they will charge the P.70 per sqm upto now, so they will just less the 6months assoc you paid before moving in then they will compute the remaining months until now...
now we had some gatherings in the 5th floor headed by owners in tower-3 that they will write a letter to smdc (main office) and to MR.HENRY SY that they are willing to pay all the necessary dues but they have to complete first the amenities indicated in the flyers and provide security cameras to specific places like elevator and parking... i'll try to upload the letter that came from the head of admin ciao

wow so from the start? May 2009 mga tenant dyan so until october 2009 lang ang 6mos hoa that were asked so from november 2009 up to may 2011 now? :nuts: so 18 mos??:cheers: sabi ng cbri dati 'walang bayad" which i doubted na nga pero i am not expecting na tataasan pa nila at may retroactive pa eh may kulang pa nga ang amenities. before sabi nila bababa pa daw yan depending sa projects o mapaguusapan but now tumaas pa pala.

wala akong issue kahit tumaas ang hoa if ang kapalit naman is our security and more efficient maintenance kasi hoa officers naman na hahawak ng perang ito. now, i wonder if cash nilang sisingilin ito :bash:

i am coming home again this week and i will support that kind of letter to smdc and henry sy. i suggest na sana nga babaan pa yung hoa dati na kulang pa sa amenities then impost na lang yung 70 per sqm if kumpleto na.
we need those security cameras saka sana changing room near pool area and well-lighted grass area sa gabi. grabe ang naririnig kong stories na daming maids/security guards/maintenance ang gumagawa ng milagro sa grass area at mga vacant rooms. dapat unit owners din will be advised na yun mga nanny nila after certain time ay di na pwde patambay tambay lang around. puro tsismisan lang ginagawa.:ohno:

Nakuha nyo na ba title ng unit nyo? May property tax po bang babayaran at saan magbabayad.

If nakaloan pa yung property mo hindi pa yata kailangan magbayad ng property tax sa pagkakaalam ko

Thank you so much for this effort to post this here,very informative and I really appreciate it.

I agree sa post mo. Sana nga maging uniform pero mahirap yun mangyari i guess kasi iba iba ang view na hanap ng mga tenant tsaka ayun sa dami din siguro ng units.

FYI po ulet... (to all the owners na nag-papaupa i have a request lang po)
im a broker po handling rentals in mezza now i have atleast 30 units na hawak all for rent, so this assoc on the way will surely affect all the prices of rentals in mezza. i suggest din po all owners to have a uniformed price for studio-1br-2br etc... coz now were having a problem disposing units in the regular price kase there are some agents and brokers lowering the price of the units kumita lang which is not good to mezza. imagine renting your fully furnished studio unit for 10k only! then others unit for unfurnished is 11k upto 13k.
im just saying that if we let this happen the money you invested to your property in mezza will surely depreciate. how can you sell your property in a nice price when the buyers will have an idea that they will purchase your property tapos ganun lang rent? it happened na po to the units i handle kaya im sharing and hopefully all of you can contribute something for making a solution to this unforseen problem that may affect all your investments and properties in mezza. tnx po nyt na ;)

If ever pala can you PM your contact number para if meron akong ibang properties ko na ipaparent I'll contact you. Galing mo pala maghanap ng tenants naka30 ka na? hehehe

If nakaloan pa yung property mo hindi pa yata kailangan magbayad ng property tax sa pagkakaalam ko


Fully paid na sya kasi nag loan din ako dito sa abroad. Pero wala pa namn title at meron na bang property tax na babayaran?

hanggang wala pa yung title i think di pa kelangan. Went for a swim kanina. Sarap magswimming sa pool lalo na't ganito kainit. Kakaiba lang kasi i went straight at di ako hinarang ng guard. marami din kasing labas pasok

Hi just wanted to ask about SMDC PMO here in Mezza... Got a unit in Jazz but just wanted to ask about SMDC's PMO... :)

hanggang wala pa yung title i think di pa kelangan. Went for a swim kanina. Sarap magswimming sa pool lalo na't ganito kainit. Kakaiba lang kasi i went straight at di ako hinarang ng guard. marami din kasing labas pasok
Ang pagkakaalam ko kilala nila lahat ng unit owners,because we have our pics submitted.Mas gusto ng mga pamangkin ko sa Tivoli kasi they can go there to swim whenever they want to,but not in Mezza.They can`t use the pool if nobody invites them.

Mahigpit pala magswim dito pag di unit owners?

Mahigpit pala magswim dito pag di unit owners?

Guests can also use the pool but the tenant must confirm that they are invited by him and has to abide certain rules in using the pool/premises.

Na received ko na notice thru e mail increasing the HOA from 60 to 70/sq.m. retro... so dapat lang we have standard rate for renting the unit....Suggestion ko lang: unfurnished for studio type is P12,000.00-P13,000.00 and furnished is P16,000.00-P18,000.00.

We had a personal experience with one agent...

Our unfurnished 2-BR unit with balcony was rented out on a 1-year contract thru an agent for 19k...6-months before the contract renewal, our agent was telling us that rental prices for the following year will be reduced by 2k to 3k!!! We knew right away what she's up to and it got us really pissed -- EX-AGENT na namin siya!!! There must be a way to stop this breed of unscrupulous agent. Unit owners should not allow such things to happen coz we are at the losing end!!!

There should be more agents like aprilvillota na may concern din sa unit owners, and not only after his/her commission. I also agree that there should be a uniform price rental. Can the Mezza condominium assoc or SMDC management do something about this? Dapat siguro meron na lang accredited agents sa Mezza?



FYI po ulet... (to all the owners na nag-papaupa i have a request lang po)
im a broker po handling rentals in mezza now i have atleast 30 units na hawak all for rent, so this assoc on the way will surely affect all the prices of rentals in mezza. i suggest din po all owners to have a uniformed price for studio-1br-2br etc... coz now were having a problem disposing units in the regular price kase there are some agents and brokers lowering the price of the units kumita lang which is not good to mezza. imagine renting your fully furnished studio unit for 10k only! then others unit for unfurnished is 11k upto 13k.
im just saying that if we let this happen the money you invested to your property in mezza will surely depreciate. how can you sell your property in a nice price when the buyers will have an idea that they will purchase your property tapos ganun lang rent? it happened na po to the units i handle kaya im sharing and hopefully all of you can contribute something for making a solution to this unforseen problem that may affect all your investments and properties in mezza. tnx po nyt na ;)

We had a personal experience with one agent...

Our unfurnished 2-BR unit with balcony was rented out on a 1-year contract thru an agent for 19k...6-months before the contract renewal, our agent was telling us that rental prices for the following year will be reduced by 2k to 3k!!! We knew right away what she's up to and it got us really pissed -- EX-AGENT na namin siya!!! There must be a way to stop this breed of unscrupulous agent. Unit owners should not allow such things to happen coz we are at the losing end!!!

There should be more agents like aprilvillota na may concern din sa unit owners, and not only after his/her commission. I also agree that there should be a uniform price rental. Can the Mezza condominium assoc or SMDC management do something about this? Dapat siguro meron na lang accredited agents sa Mezza?

question lang, if your agent tells you to the rental prices for the following year will be reduced by 2-3K, why don't you just tell her you won't if you feel you're being shortchanged?

why are you barking at other unit owners who are willing to rent it out cheaper than you? isn't it that its their own money that was invested? if you are really concern about them loosing money by doing that, then be happy. its them who's loosing money and not you. asking others to do the same as you just because you feel the income is not good for you just seems so lame. if you have a store in a mall, you just can't demand other stores to follow your pricing just because you are not happy how they price their products. tama ba? its what you call fair competition. masira man nila ang prices ng rent sa mezza, just wait hanggang maubos yung mga murang rent na iyon, then baka may kumuha na ng unit mo. antay ka na lang if you're not happy lowering it.:nuts::nuts::nuts:

If ever pala can you PM your contact number para if meron akong ibang properties ko na ipaparent I'll contact you. Galing mo pala maghanap ng tenants naka30 ka na? hehehe

aprilvillota said....

im a broker po handling rentals in mezza now i have atleast 30 units na hawak all for rent

she did not say all 30 is already being rented. most probably she is referring to them as her inverntories. and its just common sense the reason she is ranting here about owners lowering their asking price is because she couldn't or having a hard time renting out her inventories. :lol::lol::lol:

@apollo17, looks like you stepped on somebody's toes...you may not know it but keyo168 could be the agent whose services you fired!! :lol::lol::lol:

To Ms. April Villota,
How much po ba rental ng furnished 1 bedrum sa mezza residences.. tower 4 ako ibig kong paupahan ang unit ko.... How much din po ba ang average rate sa mga funished 1 bedrum.... Thank you po

any feedback po sa PMO ng MEZZA? kahit pa PM n lng po... :)

to all unit owners abroad...
the management implemented 70pesos per square na po as of January 2011.
may letters na po na pinadala indicating the computation breakdown...
the goodness after the short notice that they will be implementing the assoc increase some of the owners gather and came up with "if ever will be paying an increase they should deliver all the amenities and cctv's"

they wrote a letter to sm and after few weeks we haved been informed that they will deliver the said request...
fyi lang po. para hindi po mabigla ung mga owner kung bakit suddenly may babayaran silang ganung kalaki.

i'll try to upload po the letter given by the management sooner

hehe mam ning pano po upload pics?


CHRISTIAN VILLOTA
PROPERTY MANAGER / INTERIOR / WOOD WORKS
Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines
Mob#: (63) 921-3093855 / (63) 915 8495554 / (63) 932-5922210
Email/FB : ven_heart2003@yahoo.com
http://www.propertyguidephilippines.com/

^^^ aprilvillota.. i've sent you a PM last week. please check and hope you can reply.

hehe mam ning pano po upload pics?


CHRISTIAN VILLOTA
PROPERTY MANAGER / INTERIOR / WOOD WORKS
Quezon City, Metro Manila, Philippines
Mob#: (63) 921-3093855 / (63) 915 8495554 / (63) 932-5922210
Email/FB : ven_heart2003@yahoo.com
http://www.propertyguidephilippines.com/

hi, try this link.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=593861

nga pala its my first time to attend "homeowners meeting" kanina. katuwa naman to see how people show their interest na magkaroon ng maayo sna HOA sa mezza. may 1 naglilead sa team and they have volunteers. nagawa nilang ilapit mga issue kay Henry Sy particularly yung paglagay ng gym, playground, dressing room near pool, bbq area, cctv, bridge pa SM, etc. May confirmation letter na directly from Sy na idedeliver sya. Now I am thinking na baka yung tauhan lang nya and the CBRE ang mabagal.

happy to see na ibat ibang nationalies ang andun kanina but all are agreeing na dapat mapaghandaan ang election ng officers na iboboto nila kasi its criticial. all are educated and willing to share inputs unlike some are insinuating na tanga ang mga sm property buyers :bash:. met medical doctors, accountants, auditors, lawyers, ofws, at madaming businessmen na mga chinese, etc. with what I saw, i have confidence na mapapaganda nila ang hoa ng mezza.

this is unofficial group but they managed na mpahinto ang paniningil ng current admin ng backlogs na hoa fees within short period of time lang with 5% interest per month. They managed to question yung increase ng hoa fees from 60 to 70 per sqm until mapresent ng current admin yung audited financial report nila at justification for the increase and of course na masingil lahat ng kakulangan.

my mother is one of the active volunteers ng tower 1. i applause the recommendation na dapat may officers per tower na haharap sa immeidate need ng unit owners. good luck inyong lahat. magagaling talaga mga pinoy. sana tuloy tuloy lang na gamitin ang talino sa tama.

Thank you so much for this important updates regarding the association,thumbs up sa yo Ning as always.My unit is always tenanted thats why I rarely get some updates kaya this thread helps a lot.
We have different experiences sa SM depende siguro sa project but I am very happy with our investment for more than 3 fruitful years now.:banana:

Thank you so much for this important updates regarding the association,thumbs up sa yo Ning as always.My unit is always tenanted thats why I rarely get some updates kaya this thread helps a lot.
We have different experiences sa SM depende siguro sa project but I am very happy with our investment for more than 3 fruitful years now.:banana:

Naku baphi if andito ka lang matutuwa ka to see how real unit owners gathered and voicing out their ideas. Di ko na tinapos meeting kasi may sense ang snasabi nilang lahat. May 1 nagtanong lang why a new group is being formed pero naguguluhan lang ang lola, so after explanation na the volunteers are not creating a new group but just an early prep for hoa election soon eh naliwanagan naman. Noong una na sabi ng sm mas ok may interim na hoa officers agad para maaddress agad ang mga possible issues, naapreciate ko siya pero if di gagalaw ang interim officers much more na di nakikipagusap sa unit owners eh dapat lang palitan agad.

Sana na we can see very soon yung remaining deliverables nila at least before umupo ang elected officers. Kailan ka ulit uwi baphi? Baka ako sa
Nov/Dec na after this.

Sana na we can see very soon yung remaining deliverables nila at least before umupo ang elected officers. Kailan ka ulit uwi baphi? Baka ako sa
Nov/Dec na after this.[/QUOTE]

How I wish I was there and and have some of your tatays ricecakes again lol.Seriously, namimiss ko ang magstay sa Mezza.I am jealous of you ha,ilang beses ka ng nakauwi in a year.Me?not sure basta If I have the chance I will sneak out to have a dip in the pool.Is it still peaceful and quiet sa park?Kahit dun ako magstay sa isang unit,I will inform you should I get there.Regards to your nanay and tatay and kids.

to all unit owners abroad...
the management implemented 70pesos per square na po as of January 2011.
may letters na po na pinadala indicating the computation breakdown...
the goodness after the short notice that they will be implementing the assoc increase some of the owners gather and came up with "if ever will be paying an increase they should deliver all the amenities and cctv's"

they wrote a letter to sm and after few weeks we haved been informed that they will deliver the said request...
fyi lang po. para hindi po mabigla ung mga owner kung bakit suddenly may babayaran silang ganung kalaki.

i'll try to upload po the letter given by the management sooner


Hi April. Thanks for the info as I am presently based in Qatar. Do you handle also or tried handling unit's for sale? I have 2 bedroom (with balcony) fully furnished unit in tower 2 that i'm planning to sell. This unit is slightly used since we stayed twice only for a month each. Thanks.

Hi future neighbors.
I'm a tenant sa tower 3 and will be moving in a few months time. Ask ko lang po sana if medyu matagal talaga proseso ng SMDC for their turn over kasi advise po sakin is wait lang daw po ako ng mail from them for invitation for turn over. Kakabayad ko lang po kasi ng Other Charges this month.
Thanks.

Kingphilip better call smdc property management, ganyan dn nangyari s kin, na delay me almost 2 months, puede naman pala iset manually khit wala na ung letter.

Alright. Thanks much.

Hi future neighbors.
I'm a tenant sa tower 3 and will be moving in a few months time. Ask ko lang po sana if medyu matagal talaga proseso ng SMDC for their turn over kasi advise po sakin is wait lang daw po ako ng mail from them for invitation for turn over. Kakabayad ko lang po kasi ng Other Charges this month.
Thanks.

Pwede mo silang pakiusapan na madalin ang turn over if you have reasons.Ningnicole has a clear experience with that,right ning?Constant communication lang sa admin as in make kulit to them if you want early turn over.
Sa amin noon sa Mezza 1,sa mga owners overseas,kasi nga excited, we adviced each other not to book a visit yet hanggat wala pang Letter of Turn Over and ningnicole was the very first tenant long before we got our unit.

Thanks sa reply. Nagfollow-up ulit ako and then they had it scheduled for this week. :-)

Dun po sa mga may tsikot na walang parking slot, i know may limit na yung parking sa harap ng lobby, san po kayu nagpapark? Hindi ako bumili kasi nung parking area parang may kamahalan e hehe.

sa mga walang parking slot sabi nila may pay parking sa 2nd floor na bubuksan.... ewan ko lang kung kelan naman yun..... buti naman may wifi na 5th floor lobby sana maibigay na nila lahat ang amenities esp. children playground na ipinangako at ang dressing room sa shower area nadulas anak ko papunta sa CR kasi basa siya.... nag reklamo na nga pala ako sa admin yung CR sa 5th floor "mabaho" as in me amoy at mga sira ang mga tiles sa femal CR ....at isa pa yung ventilation sa elevator pa 5th floor walang "hangin" sa loob lalo na kung me kasabay na mga IRANIAn hmmmmmm..... PANSIN KO RIN PARANG BUMAGAL ANG ELEVATOR NG PA 5TH FLOOR.

sa mga walang parking slot sabi nila may pay parking sa 2nd floor na bubuksan.... ewan ko lang kung kelan naman yun..... buti naman may wifi na 5th floor lobby sana maibigay na nila lahat ang amenities esp. children playground na ipinangako at ang dressing room sa shower area nadulas anak ko papunta sa CR kasi basa siya.... nag reklamo na nga pala ako sa admin yung CR sa 5th floor "mabaho" as in me amoy at mga sira ang mga tiles sa femal CR ....at isa pa yung ventilation sa elevator pa 5th floor walang "hangin" sa loob lalo na kung me kasabay na mga IRANIAn hmmmmmm..... PANSIN KO RIN PARANG BUMAGAL ANG ELEVATOR NG PA 5TH FLOOR.





Greetings po ulit MEZZA OWNERS its me again christian reporting on duty :banana:... there's been a letter circulating mezza na blank form. they slip it on all the units in mezza and they want you to fill it out. there's some questions dun na are you renting? what the problem of your unit? etc...
most of the units and tenants i handle received that letter, when we asked whats the purpose of that letter they said they will use it to file a case against sm without informing the one who filled the form whats the purpose. of course its valid kase may pirma kaso they did not inform the person who signed... i went deeper re:forms sent to each units in mezza, they want to use it daw to file a suite against sm. and they're asking owners not to pay the dues kc daw hindi daw tama ang palakad ng mezza...
i suggest po na magbayad po lahat ng owners ng association dues because its your obligations and responsibility as owner of mezza. kasi kung hindi po kayo magbabayad mapepenalize kayo and worst eh mapapabayaan ang facilities ng mezza and that's not good to all owners.
i don't know the reason why they're asking the owners not to pay, pero i asked admin what will happen if you don't settle the dues, and that's penalties of course

Greetings po ulit MEZZA OWNERS its me again christian reporting on duty :banana:... there's been a letter circulating mezza na blank form. they slip it on all the units in mezza and they want you to fill it out. there's some questions dun na are you renting? what the problem of your unit? etc...
most of the units and tenants i handle received that letter, when we asked whats the purpose of that letter they said they will use it to file a case against sm without informing the one who filled the form whats the purpose. of course its valid kase may pirma kaso they did not inform the person who signed... i went deeper re:forms sent to each units in mezza, they want to use it daw to file a suite against sm. and they're asking owners not to pay the dues kc daw hindi daw tama ang palakad ng mezza...
i suggest po na magbayad po lahat ng owners ng association dues because its your obligations and responsibility as owner of mezza. kasi kung hindi po kayo magbabayad mapepenalize kayo and worst eh mapapabayaan ang facilities ng mezza and that's not good to all owners.
i don't know the reason why they're asking the owners not to pay, pero i asked admin what will happen if you don't settle the dues, and that's penalties of course

70 per sq.meter na po ang association dues. nag start ng assoc dues collection last april 2010? then kung ngayon ka lang magbabayad aabutin ka ng 14K for 1BR. april to sept kasi yun 6 months advance na binayad natin nun turnover, then balance is oct 2010 to June 2011. 9 months x 1.6K=14K+++
siguro yun mga nag rereklamo yun mga bumili ng malalaking unit o bumili ng maraming unit.
sabi kasi ng agent na nakausap ko marami pang penthouse at 3BR na hindi nabenta at mahirap daw ipa rent compared sa 1BR. sold out na raw lahat ng 1BR at sa mezza 2 konti na lang natitira.

ano po ba penalty sa delayed payment ng assoc. dues?
paano kung walang nakatira sa unit, d po ba magbabayad din ng dues? parang madami pa kasing unit na walang nakatira sa mezza.

70 per sq.meter na po ang association dues. nag start ng assoc dues collection last april 2010? then kung ngayon ka lang magbabayad aabutin ka ng 14K for 1BR. april to sept kasi yun 6 months advance na binayad natin nun turnover, then balance is oct 2010 to June 2011. 9 months x 1.6K=14K+++
siguro yun mga nag rereklamo yun mga bumili ng malalaking unit o bumili ng maraming unit.
sabi kasi ng agent na nakausap ko marami pang penthouse at 3BR na hindi nabenta at mahirap daw ipa rent compared sa 1BR. sold out na raw lahat ng 1BR at sa mezza 2 konti na lang natitira.

ano po ba penalty sa delayed payment ng assoc. dues?
paano kung walang nakatira sa unit, d po ba magbabayad din ng dues? parang madami pa kasing unit na walang nakatira sa mezza.

bago bang news ito? kasi i was there nung end of May at hindi po ganyan ang sinabi sa sulat galing sa SMDC. did you attend the meeting about this last May?

Greetings po ulit MEZZA OWNERS its me again christian reporting on duty :banana:... there's been a letter circulating mezza na blank form. they slip it on all the units in mezza and they want you to fill it out. there's some questions dun na are you renting? what the problem of your unit? etc...
most of the units and tenants i handle received that letter, when we asked whats the purpose of that letter they said they will use it to file a case against sm without informing the one who filled the form whats the purpose. of course its valid kase may pirma kaso they did not inform the person who signed... i went deeper re:forms sent to each units in mezza, they want to use it daw to file a suite against sm. and they're asking owners not to pay the dues kc daw hindi daw tama ang palakad ng mezza...
i suggest po na magbayad po lahat ng owners ng association dues because its your obligations and responsibility as owner of mezza. kasi kung hindi po kayo magbabayad mapepenalize kayo and worst eh mapapabayaan ang facilities ng mezza and that's not good to all owners.
i don't know the reason why they're asking the owners not to pay, pero i asked admin what will happen if you don't settle the dues, and that's penalties of course

i will ask my mother about this. is this a recent thing? last time im in Pinas which is last month lang is may sulat ng galing sa SMDC about this. meron bang news na hindi nagkasundo ang representative ng unit owners kaya magkaka legal action na? well, if we have valid point i go for that. nakita ko mga acting leaders sa mezza last May and they are credible people - mga medical doctors, engineers, lawyers, accountants t mga professionals na ofw.

i will ask my mother about this. is this a recent thing? last time im in Pinas which is last month lang is may sulat ng galing sa SMDC about this. meron bang news na hindi nagkasundo ang representative ng unit owners kaya magkaka legal action na? well, if we have valid point i go for that. nakita ko mga acting leaders sa mezza last May and they are credible people - mga medical doctors, engineers, lawyers, accountants t mga professionals na ofw.



mam ning i believe po nung may eh nakasama din po ako sa meeting ng owners na yun, kaso po ngayon eh iba na po ang nag-head ng mga owners.
before po kase si mam rochelle from tower-3, and they actually sent a letter to the main office and Mr.Henry sy jr. and they actually replied with good news kase nung napunta ako sa admin may mga nag ssubmit na ng company profile for CCTV cameras heard to that they're working out the GYM on the 6th floor then pinalitan nila yung tubig ng pool that time, that was the time nung naka-attend kayo ng meeting but now its diffrent person's who are handling group of owners... im not saying na wag kayo sumunod sa sinasabi nila im just concerns to the owners who will be penalized becoz they're suggesting not to pay yet... so far po wala pa pong legal actions na nagaganap...


and sir danny1975


The increase of 70 pesos per square occured january of 2011 and they sent the notice around may to june po as i can recall...

mam ning i believe po nung may eh nakasama din po ako sa meeting ng owners na yun, kaso po ngayon eh iba na po ang nag-head ng mga owners.
before po kase si mam rochelle from tower-3, and they actually sent a letter to the main office and Mr.Henry sy jr. and they actually replied with good news kase nung napunta ako sa admin may mga nag ssubmit na ng company profile for CCTV cameras heard to that they're working out the GYM on the 6th floor then pinalitan nila yung tubig ng pool that time, that was the time nung naka-attend kayo ng meeting but now its diffrent person's who are handling group of owners... im not saying na wag kayo sumunod sa sinasabi nila im just concerns to the owners who will be penalized becoz they're suggesting not to pay yet... so far po wala pa pong legal actions na nagaganap...


and sir danny1975


The increase of 70 pesos per square occured january of 2011 and they sent the notice around may to june po as i can recall...

hindi po ba pinapalitan ang tubig ng pool? gaano po ba nila kadalas palitan yun tubig?
asan na po ba si maam Rochelle ?

bago bang news ito? kasi i was there nung end of May at hindi po ganyan ang sinabi sa sulat galing sa SMDC. did you attend the meeting about this last May?

this year po nag start yun 70/m2 yun ang sabi sa admin office. wala ako sa meeting.

mam ning i believe po nung may eh nakasama din po ako sa meeting ng owners na yun, kaso po ngayon eh iba na po ang nag-head ng mga owners.
before po kase si mam rochelle from tower-3, and they actually sent a letter to the main office and Mr.Henry sy jr. and they actually replied with good news kase nung napunta ako sa admin may mga nag ssubmit na ng company profile for CCTV cameras heard to that they're working out the GYM on the 6th floor then pinalitan nila yung tubig ng pool that time, that was the time nung naka-attend kayo ng meeting but now its diffrent person's who are handling group of owners... im not saying na wag kayo sumunod sa sinasabi nila im just concerns to the owners who will be penalized becoz they're suggesting not to pay yet... so far po wala pa pong legal actions na nagaganap...


and sir danny1975


The increase of 70 pesos per square occured january of 2011 and they sent the notice around may to june po as i can recall...

well, if you are in the meeting, di ba ang reply we got from Sy, is that we can pay the previous dues ( i forgot anong cut off) until end of Dec 2011? and no one is saying not to pay during the meeting. i dont know much sino itong new group but alam kong rochelle handed over the issue/documents to them well. hiniram pa nga nila yung among Masted Deed kasi meron dung mga homeowners rules na na walang copy daw ang iba according to my mother. kaya nga when rochelle was discussing na sm formed hoa na walang rules, di na lang ako nagsalita pero there are! we were asked to attend initial hoa orientation and discussed with us the interim rules until nga magka elected hoa officers. actually i find that advantageous kasi at least paglipat natin may rules na than kakapa-kapa pa at yun nga SEC registered na sila agad.

Anyway, i saw these set of officers na kinausap ni rochelle and some are chinese. Im sure may nangyari kaya umaabot now sa legal remedy? Rochelle is also saying that before she left na if di papayag ang SMDC sa mga requests natin then we will file a class suit. Actually even yung increase na 70/sqm, di naman tayo na consult about it and Rochelle indic

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well, if you are in the meeting, di ba ang reply we got from Sy, is that we can pay the previous dues ( i forgot anong cut off) until end of Dec 2011? and no one is saying not to pay during the meeting. i dont know much sino itong new group but alam kong rochelle handed over the issue/documents to them well. hiniram pa nga nila yung among Masted Deed kasi meron dung mga homeowners rules na na walang copy daw ang iba according to my mother. kaya nga when rochelle was discussing na sm formed hoa na walang rules, di na lang ako nagsalita pero there are! we were asked to attend initial hoa orientation and discussed with us the interim rules until nga magka elected hoa officers. actually i find that advantageous kasi at least paglipat natin may rules na than kakapa-kapa pa at yun nga SEC registered na sila agad.

Anyway, i saw these set of officers na kinausap ni rochelle and some are chinese. Im sure may nangyari kaya umaabot now sa legal remedy? Rochelle is also saying that before she left na if di papayag ang SMDC sa mga requests natin then we will file a class suit. Actually even yung increase na 70/sqm, di naman tayo na consult about it and Rochelle indicating na di tayo papayag sa increase until mapakita ng current hoa yung justification at yung financial audit ng dati/current na pera. That is just fair kasi dapat malinis ang lahat before ipasa sa elected hoa officers. I think walang mapakita ang current hoa president and his group!!!

hay naku sana maayos pa yan, but if legal action is the only remedy, GO!

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well, if you are in the meeting, di ba ang reply we got from Sy, is that we can pay the previous dues ( i forgot anong cut off) until end of Dec 2011? and no one is saying not to pay during the meeting. i dont know much sino itong new group but alam kong rochelle handed over the issue/documents to them well. hiniram pa nga nila yung among Masted Deed kasi meron dung mga homeowners rules na na walang copy daw ang iba according to my mother. kaya nga when rochelle was discussing na sm formed hoa na walang rules, di na lang ako nagsalita pero there are! we were asked to attend initial hoa orientation and discussed with us the interim rules until nga magka elected hoa officers. actually i find that advantageous kasi at least paglipat natin may rules na than kakapa-kapa pa at yun nga SEC registered na sila agad.

Anyway, i saw these set of officers na kinausap ni rochelle and some are chinese. Im sure may nangyari kaya umaabot now sa legal remedy? Rochelle is also saying that before she left na if di papayag ang SMDC sa mga requests natin then we will file a class suit. Actually even yung increase na 70/sqm, di naman tayo na consult about it and Rochelle indicating na di tayo papayag sa increase until mapakita ng current hoa yung justification at yung financial audit ng dati/current na pera. That is just fair kasi dapat malinis ang lahat before ipasa sa elected hoa officers. I think walang mapakita ang current hoa president and his group!!!

hay naku sana maayos pa yan, but if legal action is the only remedy, GO!

Ning, nagbayad na po ba kayo ng assocition dues?

Ning, nagbayad na po ba kayo ng assocition dues?

nagbayad kami ng need pa lang bayaran pero ang di pa need eh di muna kasi malaki ang amin at since may 2009 pa kami andun. ikaw nakabayad ka na?

btw i spoke to my mother na at yun nga galit na naman ang mga leaders ng hoa mainyl because yung pinangakong amenities na kukumpletuhin (gym, changing rooms near pook, bbq area, playground, etc) eh wala namang news. ang mga letter puro lang pano makasingil ng dues! pero yung follow up letter regarding amenities wala pa din. at gusto na daw iturn over sa maelect na hoa officers ng ganun lang eh ang pinaglalaban nga now is before turnover kumpletuhin muna or else it means that tayo ang gagastos for those lacking amenities. thats reasonable so kahit ako i go for ireklamo na lang sla legally. it seems may humaharang na mga officers yan im sure, sumisipsip kay Sy. nung una kasi bilis daw ng reply ng Sy indicating na idedeliver all pero now wala na daw makuhang reply/confirmation.

then sa water, its more than 60 pesos per cubic meter pa din, matagal na daw nila nireklamo na lakarin na maging residential na sya

nagbayad kami ng need pa lang bayaran pero ang di pa need eh di muna kasi malaki ang amin at since may 2009 pa kami andun. ikaw nakabayad ka na?

btw i spoke to my mother na at yun nga galit na naman ang mga leaders ng hoa mainyl because yung pinangakong amenities na kukumpletuhin (gym, changing rooms near pook, bbq area, playground, etc) eh wala namang news. ang mga letter puro lang pano makasingil ng dues! pero yung follow up letter regarding amenities wala pa din. at gusto na daw iturn over sa maelect na hoa officers ng ganun lang eh ang pinaglalaban nga now is before turnover kumpletuhin muna or else it means that tayo ang gagastos for those lacking amenities. thats reasonable so kahit ako i go for ireklamo na lang sla legally. it seems may humaharang na mga officers yan im sure, sumisipsip kay Sy. nung una kasi bilis daw ng reply ng Sy indicating na idedeliver all pero now wala na daw makuhang reply/confirmation.

then sa water, its more than 60 pesos per cubic meter pa din, matagal na daw nila nireklamo na lakarin na maging residential na sya


binayaran ko po hanngang June this year. kaya nga nalaman ko na nag increase sila ng 70/sq. meter. hanggang anong month po binayaran nyo?

binayaran ko po hanngang June this year. kaya nga nalaman ko na nag increase sila ng 70/sq. meter. hanggang anong month po binayaran nyo?

yung bill na need na bayaran asap which is current. madami na nga nagbayad using 70 kahit alam ko eh may argument pa tungkol dun kasi nga walang basis ang pagtaas.

sino po dito nakabili ng penthouse unit (38th floor) at magkano po bili nyo?

sino po dito nakabili ng penthouse unit (38th floor) at magkano po bili nyo?

Does anybody knows what is the height of the unit from floor to ceiling?

Is it true that there is no 13th floor. I read somewhere that there is also no 4th floor. Are these TRUE? So if you live on the 20th floor, it's like you are only in the 18th or 19th floor. Can someone please enlighten me on this matter. Thank you.

Does anybody knows what is the height of the unit from floor to ceiling?

Is it true that there is no 13th floor. I read somewhere that there is also no 4th floor. Are these TRUE? So if you live on the 20th floor, it's like you are only in the 18th or 19th floor. Can someone please enlighten me on this matter. Thank you.

i dont know the exact height of ceiling pero high ceiling sya.
meron sya 4th floor ( admin office)
walang 13th floor.

i dont know the exact height of ceiling pero high ceiling sya.
meron sya 4th floor ( admin office)
walang 13th floor.

Thank you Danny...
So that means, for those who lives in the higher floors...isang floor lang ang mababawas.

Thank you Danny...
So that means, for those who lives in the higher floors...isang floor lang ang mababawas.

tama po.

separate po ba parking slots ng tower 1/2 sa tower 3/4?
kung sa tower 1, pwede ka ba bumili ng parking slots sa tower 3 and vice versa?

UNIT FOR SALE, 3 BEDROOMS ON TOWER 2, 10TH FL FULLY FURNISHED WITH ALL CUSTOM NARRA WOODS, 4 CARRIER A/C , BOTH BATHROOM HAS WATER HEATER AND GLASS ENCLOSURE AND NARRA CABINETS, AND ALSO NARRA TOP KITCHEN CABINET, PLUS WASHER AND REFRIGERATOR, THIS UNIT FACING AMENITIES AND MAKATI SKYLINE, IF ANY ONE INTERESTED PLEASE E MAIL ME AT ( D_ADAD1@YAHOO.COM ) OR CALL MY OPHEL ADAD AT 0917 363 7048. TITLE ON HAND

HINDI PA PO ITO NATITIRHAN AT AVAILABLE PO ANG INSIDE PHOTOS SA MGA INTERISADO, SALAMAT PO

ITO PO AY MAY TITLE NA AT READY NA ILIPAT SA SINO MANG MAKAKABILI.

ano na po balita sa association dues?
bakit lagi may amoy sa labas ng mga unit kahit anong tower

im in need po ng 3bedroom for rent... need it asap, may tenant po ako na ililipat from tower-1.

CHRISTIAN VILLOTA
Mob#: (63) 921-3093855 / (63) 915-8495554 / (63) 932-5922210
Email : ven_heart2003@yahoo.com

ano na po balita sa association dues?
bakit lagi may amoy sa labas ng mga unit kahit anong tower

saang tower ka danny nakatira?

separate po ba parking slots ng tower 1/2 sa tower 3/4?
kung sa tower 1, pwede ka ba bumili ng parking slots sa tower 3 and vice versa?

yes its separate. you cant but parking slots which is not for your tower. anong tower ka nakatira now?

Hi Ning, PM sent.

may condotel service po ba ang smdc?

tried to look for hotel at quezon city sa www.asiarooms.com , may naka advertised na mezza residences.

http://www.asiarooms.com/en/philippines/manila/202749-mezza_residences_condotel.html

im in need po ng 3bedroom for rent... need it asap, may tenant po ako na ililipat from tower-1.

CHRISTIAN VILLOTA
Mob#: (63) 921-3093855 / (63) 915-8495554 / (63) 932-5922210
Email : ven_heart2003@yahoo.com




LATEST UPDATE PO RE:MEZZA 2...
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROJECT STARTED ALREADY ITS THE 4th DAY TODAY AND ITS 24/7 I THINK. KC 11PM NA Q UMUWI DAMI PA WORKER WEH.
SO IT MEANS THE LICENSE TO SELL OF THE PROJECT IS OK ALREADY.

pano po upload video>?

Hello Everyone.

I hope this finds you all well.

For the past several weeks we have been coordinating with SMDC's Legal and Property management group. Several Issues were tackled, but sadly none will be resolved. There are major issues that will drag this situation much longer, and we are powerless at the moment. But with God's good grace, we believe we have been guided by brave individuals who have shown us a way to fight for our rights.

Just to give everyone an update, here are the list of problems hounding the majority:

1.) Non delivery of CCTs certificate of condominium title.
Said title is supposed to be issued 6-months from full payment of Unit buyer or Bank to the developer. This is a very important piece of document for it gives one the right to be a voting member of a homeowner's association.

2.) Association Dues for July, 2011 remains to be P70.00 per sq. meter. There was an increase of P10.00 from the former P60.00 per sq. meter without due process. By law any changes to this should have been voted on by the majority of Valid Homeowners in the homeowner's association. Now since we do not have our CCTs yet, we have no say. If you want to know who has a majority voting bloc; you can check with the registry of deeds. You will be shocked to see 90% of the deeds under the name of SMDC.

3.) Being the Majority Voting Bloc, they can change anything, anytime they wish to. Like for example the Master deed, this has gone thru 4 changes without anyone's knowledge. And also the amendment to the original completion plans to the HLURB.

4.)Common areas amenities not yet complete, SMDC failed to deliver within the time requirement the basic facilities stated in the HLURB approved construction plan, which is a violation of PD 957, “Regulating the Sale of Subdivision Lots and Condominiums, Providing Penalties for Violations Thereof”.
By Misrepresentation they have edited the plan to just include the swimming pool, clubhouse and the now famous "M" bar (do we need this? really?)

It is a good thing that we kept our copies of the sales brochures, which make them liable to complete the amenities before they secured their certificate of completion last 2009, and together with that got back their cash bond.

To name a few here are what's missing: (you can add if i missed any)
a.) Children's Playground
b.) Gym
c.) Clubhouse
d.) Barbeque Area
e.) Pool Changing room
f.) CCTV security cameras
g.) Electric/gas stove facilities on select units (how does one get selected? easy, just be one of the SMDC board members who own premium units under their name)

5.) Units and amenities with defects and facilities problems because of substandard materials used (we need to have a certified structural enginner to have these checked)

6.) Water Billing Statements have irregularities; everyone is advice to check their bills, read their meters regularly, especially on their schedule dates of reading and make your own record to double check their water readings.

Unit Owners have experienced erroneous meter readings the past month.
Be vigilant. They bill us a month delayed, but how sure are we it is correct? If they push the meter readings by say... 10 cu mter they earn P660.7 from a single unit. and by the time you verify, the meter has already gone thru the reading in question because we get it in 30-day delay scheme. Hence they get away I guess.

WE HOPE EVERYONE CAN ATTEND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF HOMEOWNERS/TENANTS ON JULY 24. 2011, SATURDAY, 7:00 PM AT THE 5TH FLOOR .

This is consolidate all our complaints and have it ready for filing to the proper government agencies.

Everyone is requested to submit their complaints with pictures to email address mezzahome@yahoo.com on or before July 24, 2011. Please indicate your name, tower and unit no. and contact nos. and submit your affidavit of complaint in the next meeting. If you do noy know how to make an affidavit, we can send you a template for it. Just email us to request for it.

We Hope to see you all this Saturday.
Please fight for your rights, and believe that God will always right the wrong.

God Bless!

Hello Everyone.

I hope this finds you all well.

For the past several weeks we have been coordinating with SMDC's Legal and Property management group. Several Issues were tackled, but sadly none will be resolved. There are major issues that will drag this situation much longer, and we are powerless at the moment. But with God's good grace, we believe we have been guided by brave individuals who have shown us a way to fight for our rights.

Just to give everyone an update, here are the list of problems hounding the majority:

1.) Non delivery of CCTs certificate of condominium title.
Said title is supposed to be issued 6-months from full payment of Unit buyer or Bank to the developer. This is a very important piece of document for it gives one the right to be a voting member of a homeowner's association.

2.) Association Dues for July, 2011 remains to be P70.00 per sq. meter. There was an increase of P10.00 from the former P60.00 per sq. meter without due process. By law any changes to this should have been voted on by the majority of Valid Homeowners in the homeowner's association. Now since we do not have our CCTs yet, we have no say. If you want to know who has a majority voting bloc; you can check with the registry of deeds. You will be shocked to see 90% of the deeds under the name of SMDC.

3.) Being the Majority Voting Bloc, they can change anything, anytime they wish to. Like for example the Master deed, this has gone thru 4 changes without anyone's knowledge. And also the amendment to the original completion plans to the HLURB.

4.)Common areas amenities not yet complete, SMDC failed to deliver within the time requirement the basic facilities stated in the HLURB approved construction plan, which is a violation of PD 957, “Regulating the Sale of Subdivision Lots and Condominiums, Providing Penalties for Violations Thereof”.
By Misrepresentation they have edited the plan to just include the swimming pool, clubhouse and the now famous "M" bar (do we need this? really?)

It is a good thing that we kept our copies of the sales brochures, which make them liable to complete the amenities before they secured their certificate of completion last 2009, and together with that got back their cash bond.

To name a few here are what's missing: (you can add if i missed any)
a.) Children's Playground
b.) Gym
c.) Clubhouse
d.) Barbeque Area
e.) Pool Changing room
f.) CCTV security cameras
g.) Electric/gas stove facilities on select units (how does one get selected? easy, just be one of the SMDC board members who own premium units under their name)

5.) Units and amenities with defects and facilities problems because of substandard materials used (we need to have a certified structural enginner to have these checked)

6.) Water Billing Statements have irregularities; everyone is advice to check their bills, read their meters regularly, especially on their schedule dates of reading and make your own record to double check their water readings.

Unit Owners have experienced erroneous meter readings the past month.
Be vigilant. They bill us a month delayed, but how sure are we it is correct? If they push the meter readings by say... 10 cu mter they earn P660.7 from a single unit. and by the time you verify, the meter has already gone thru the reading in question because we get it in 30-day delay scheme. Hence they get away I guess.

WE HOPE EVERYONE CAN ATTEND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF HOMEOWNERS/TENANTS ON JULY 24. 2011, SATURDAY, 7:00 PM AT THE 5TH FLOOR .

This is consolidate all our complaints and have it ready for filing to the proper government agencies.

Everyone is requested to submit their complaints with pictures to email address mezzahome@yahoo.com on or before July 24, 2011. Please indicate your name, tower and unit no. and contact nos. and submit your affidavit of complaint in the next meeting. If you do noy know how to make an affidavit, we can send you a template for it. Just email us to request for it.

We Hope to see you all this Saturday.
Please fight for your rights, and believe that God will always right the wrong.

God Bless!

I can also recall during everyone's Orientation meeting, questions were raised on when the supposed 6-month association dues DEPOSIT will start to be used, they always answer: THERE IS STILL NO ANNOUNCEMENT.

And now we received a letter from an individual claiming to be the Board President that we have back dues because it started last year.... and that the 6 month DEPOSIT was never a deposit, but was to be used as a WORKING CAPITAL to probably finish the amenities. Its seems we have to pay for the completion of our own amenities.. How sad.

As of May, 2011 the Condominium Corporation has not had any election.
Nor is the name of a certain individual known as Sandro Javier appear in the list of Board directors / trustees. Totally a misrepresentation.

It is also a sad note that the very people who are part of the Board of trustees are familiar names especially when you lodge a complaint at smdc before, regarding problems with your unit. The likes of Ramil Lombos, Sheila Raucho, etc. etc. Tsk tsk.

Hi Kerpogi,

ano po pwede gawin ng mga overseas unit owner?
sino po ba kukulitin natin para dun sa CCT.
paano po ba counting ng voting rights , 1 unit = 1 voting rights? paano po kung owner ka ng 2 bedroom or 3 bedroom vs 1 bedroom, pareho lang ba na tig isang voting rights? kung multiple unit owner ka ibig po bang sabihin multiple voting rights mo o counted as 1 lang?
yun monthly condo dues nag start sila sa date na na turnover yun unit, hindi po last year, kung na turnover yun unit ng 2009, ang monthly dues start from 2009 until now, napalaki po nyan.
pwede po ba hindi muna magbayad ng dues? may legal issues po ba pag hindi ako nagbayad since hindi pa malinaw kung 60 or 70.

Thank you Danny...
So that means, for those who lives in the higher floors...isang floor lang ang mababawas.

It also means that if you were living on the 14th floor, you're actually on the 13th floor!

Hi Kerpogi,

ano po pwede gawin ng mga overseas unit owner?
sino po ba kukulitin natin para dun sa CCT.
paano po ba counting ng voting rights , 1 unit = 1 voting rights? paano po kung owner ka ng 2 bedroom or 3 bedroom vs 1 bedroom, pareho lang ba na tig isang voting rights? kung multiple unit owner ka ibig po bang sabihin multiple voting rights mo o counted as 1 lang?
yun monthly condo dues nag start sila sa date na na turnover yun unit, hindi po last year, kung na turnover yun unit ng 2009, ang monthly dues start from 2009 until now, napalaki po nyan.
pwede po ba hindi muna magbayad ng dues? may legal issues po ba pag hindi ako nagbayad since hindi pa malinaw kung 60 or 70.

Hi Danny, It is supposed to be per Title one vote. Ok naman for me kahit one vote as long as everyone has a power to cast a vote. What they plan to do is issue proxies to allow us to vote BUT keep the titles in their name so tey can keep amending rules and regulations to their advantage anytime.
I was even one of the unlucky few, who were fooled to pay the real estate tax, which we are not even supposed to pay yet because the titles are still under smdc's name. They will scare you that they will penalize you, and that they are paying it for you in advance.... Its all a LIE. What they are doing is against the law. We all agreed not to pay anymore dues starting this month.
We just need everyone to fight for their rights! I also believe even if one is overseas one has equal rights as anyone, because everyone worked hard for their units just the same.

Hello Everyone.

I hope this finds you all well.

For the past several weeks we have been coordinating with SMDC's Legal and Property management group. Several Issues were tackled, but sadly none will be resolved. There are major issues that will drag this situation much longer, and we are powerless at the moment. But with God's good grace, we believe we have been guided by brave individuals who have shown us a way to fight for our rights.

Just to give everyone an update, here are the list of problems hounding the majority:

Wow! It is rare to read such posting as yours here in SSC pertaining to condominium unit owner’s rights and issues, wherein you actually know what you are talking about. Kudos to you in your attempts to empower unit owners, and hope that you get a lot of support from your neighbours.


1.) Non delivery of CCTs certificate of condominium title.
Said title is supposed to be issued 6-months from full payment of Unit buyer or Bank to the developer. This is a very important piece of document for it gives one the right to be a voting member of a homeowner's association.

Yes, you are right. The developer is supposed to deliver the title free from liens and encumbrance to fully paid buyers and if mortgaged is redeemed, deliver the same within six months from full payment. Have you checked with HLURB to find out what the consequence to the developer is if developer failed to do so? Would HLURB do anything if you go to their office to report such a case with your developer? I really wonder if HLURB would do anything. I can’t help but think that laws in the Philippines are sometimes not worth the paper it is written, when violators are able to manipulate the system with impunity, and without consequence.

It is common practice by developers to require payment of the real estate tax/assessment on the lot/unit to the buyers once possession/occupation has taken place, even though the delivery of CCT is pending and 6-12 months away from delivery. I have no opposition to that, but on the same breath, once I’ve started paying for tax assessment, I should be able to vote on tabled motions during general meetings. There is a known principle that says “no taxation without representation”. They cannot have their cake and eat it too, as the saying goes. It is one or the other, and not both ways. If they are denying me the vote, then they should continue paying for the assessed tax. I wonder, what is HLURB’s stance on this.


2.) Association Dues for July, 2011 remains to be P70.00 per sq. meter. There was an increase of P10.00 from the former P60.00 per sq. meter without due process. By law any changes to this should have been voted on by the majority of Valid Homeowners in the homeowner's association. Now since we do not have our CCTs yet, we have no say. If you want to know who has a majority voting bloc; you can check with the registry of deeds. You will be shocked to see 90% of the deeds under the name of SMDC.

The Property Management cannot just raise the condominium fee without adhering to proper procedural requirement. It is actually the HOA with the consent of the majority of the unit buyers that can approve any propose increase on the association dues and with justification, by providing a copy of the financial statement of the Condominium Corporation to all. This means, the Property Management will have to notify all owners that has taken possession of their unit, post announcements at conspicuous places like bulletin board by the front hallway entrance and/or elevators, of a scheduled general meeting, with its agenda. How can an increase be valid if it failed such procedural requirement? I wonder what HLURB stance on this is. Can they declare an increase null and void if a complaint is filed and proof of non-adherence to requirements is submitted?


3.) Being the Majority Voting Bloc, they can change anything, anytime they wish to. Like for example the Master deed, this has gone thru 4 changes without anyone's knowledge. And also the amendment to the original completion plans to the HLURB.

I think they can easily change the Master Deed prior to the granting of the LTS (License to Sell). You will observe that most developers start selling units several years before obtaining LTS, years before the start of building construction, knowing all along that they will purposely not obtain the LTS till the start of the construction or even several months after construction has begun, although they are not suppose to be selling yet. However, when buyers buy a pre-selling unit without the benefit of an LTS, the developer cannot adhere to the Master Deed when the LTS has not yet been granted. It’s the LTS that puts finality to all submitted requirements (i.e. Master Deed) to HLURB by the developer. Hence, when the Master Deed is not final, there is nothing for them to adhere to as of yet. Once the permanent LTS has been granted, then the Master Deed becomes final, and they now must get approval to all those who bought/reserved units after the granting of the LTS, before any submission of changes can take place to HLURB. For this very reason alone, they have a very good reason to delay the LTS. The developer would also try to delay the permanent LTS, by first asking for a temporary LTS, which can be extended for 1.5 years, before they would submit all requirements for the granting of the permanent LTS.


4.)Common areas amenities not yet complete, SMDC failed to deliver within the time requirement the basic facilities stated in the HLURB approved construction plan, which is a violation of PD 957, “Regulating the Sale of Subdivision Lots and Condominiums, Providing Penalties for Violations Thereof”.
By Misrepresentation they have edited the plan to just include the swimming pool, clubhouse and the now famous "M" bar (do we need this? really?)

It is a good thing that we kept our copies of the sales brochures, which make them liable to complete the amenities before they secured their certificate of completion last 2009, and together with that got back their cash bond.

To name a few here are what's missing: (you can add if i missed any)
a.) Children's Playground
b.) Gym
c.) Clubhouse
d.) Barbeque Area
e.) Pool Changing room
f.) CCTV security cameras
g.) Electric/gas stove facilities on select units (how does one get selected? easy, just be one of the SMDC board members who own premium units under their name)

Sorry, I didn’t understand what you meant by “getting their cash bond”. Kindly explain. Where you actually able to submit a case to HLURB and they took your side and now requiring the developer to deliver what has been stated in their brochures?


5.) Units and amenities with defects and facilities problems because of substandard materials used (we need to have a certified structural enginner to have these checked)

Hmmmmm.. This is problematic. Normally here in the west (Canada & U.S.), once the HOA has taken over, they would hire an independent contractor to check the entire building to make sure it is up to standards and note all deficiencies. Then, their report is submitted to the developer for rectification. In Philippine setting, when the Property Management Company and officers of HOA are one and the same with the developer, how can one proceed? Not really, until such time that the actual resident owners has taken over the HOA, then they can proceed.


6.) Water Billing Statements have irregularities; everyone is advice to check their bills, read their meters regularly, especially on their schedule dates of reading and make your own record to double check their water readings.

Unit Owners have experienced erroneous meter readings the past month.
Be vigilant. They bill us a month delayed, but how sure are we it is correct? If they push the meter readings by say... 10 cu mter they earn P660.7 from a single unit. and by the time you verify, the meter has already gone thru the reading in question because we get it in 30-day delay scheme. Hence they get away I guess.

Gosh, if I were a unit owner here, I would take pictures of my meter reading on supposed scheduled meter reading date, and compare that with what is stated in the statement. Falsification reading can then easily be detected.


WE HOPE EVERYONE CAN ATTEND THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF HOMEOWNERS/TENANTS ON JULY 24. 2011, SATURDAY, 7:00 PM AT THE 5TH FLOOR .

This is consolidate all our complaints and have it ready for filing to the proper government agencies.

Everyone is requested to submit their complaints with pictures to email address mezzahome@yahoo.com on or before July 24, 2011. Please indicate your name, tower and unit no. and contact nos. and submit your affidavit of complaint in the next meeting. If you do noy know how to make an affidavit, we can send you a template for it. Just email us to request for it.

We Hope to see you all this Saturday.
Please fight for your rights, and believe that God will always right the wrong.

God Bless!

More power to you. Hope you are supported by other unit owners. Good luck.

i hope that this is not a reflection of how SMDC will manage all its development. For now, I will steer away from them until this gets fixed and I have enough funds within the next 2 to 3 years.

Hi Danny, It is supposed to be per Title one vote. Ok naman for me kahit one vote as long as everyone has a power to cast a vote. What they plan to do is issue proxies to allow us to vote BUT keep the titles in their name so tey can keep amending rules and regulations to their advantage anytime.
I was even one of the unlucky few, who were fooled to pay the real estate tax, which we are not even supposed to pay yet because the titles are still under smdc's name. They will scare you that they will penalize you, and that they are paying it for you in advance.... Its all a LIE. What they are doing is against the law. We all agreed not to pay anymore dues starting this month.
We just need everyone to fight for their rights! I also believe even if one is overseas one has equal rights as anyone, because everyone worked hard for their units just the same.

paano po kami makaka vote kung nasa abroad kami? wala pa rin po sa amin ang CCT.

Hi Tchitz,

To answer your question regarding the cash bond, its a bond that hlurb keeps to make sure the developer delivers their promises, but thru misrepresentation, and unlawful editing of the plans, they have showed the HLURB that the project is complete. Hence getting their certification, and getting their cash bond released. In short, HLURB has nothing to hold against them at the moment.

Although the Presidential Decree 957, has provisions that can hold SMDC liable for all their wrongdoings. We all just need to act as one and file a unified complaint against the developer, the condominium association, its board of trustees and everyone involved in this big fiasco and let them face the music.

I hope everyone really attends the general meeting this weekend.

paano po kami makaka vote kung nasa abroad kami? wala pa rin po sa amin ang CCT.
Hi Danny,
There should be a provision in your Condominium by-laws pertaining to voting by proxy, allowing you to submit an instrument in writing appointing a proxy for a particular meeting. Here is a wording sample of such an instrument.

PROXY FORM
“Mezza Residences”

I/We _________________________ are registered Owners of unit ____________ and I/we hereby appoint __________________ or failing him/her ______________________ to vote on my/our behalf at the Special General Meeting to be held at 04:00 p.m. on Saturday, July 23, 2011 at the meeting hall of the Mezza Residences common area.

Resolutions to be voted on (if known):___________Yes___No___Proxy Discretion
#1 Condominium fee increase of 10 pesos ___________________ x
#2 resolution #2____________________________yes
#3 resolution #3_________________________________No
#4 etc.....

(please indicate your voting preference)

Signed:_____________________________________ Date:__________________________

(If you are unable to attend the meeting, please send your signed Proxy Form to ____________(name, address or fax number or email address (scan it)).

Hi Tchitz,

To answer your question regarding the cash bond, its a bond that hlurb keeps to make sure the developer delivers their promises, but thru misrepresentation, and unlawful editing of the plans, they have showed the HLURB that the project is complete. Hence getting their certification, and getting their cash bond released. In short, HLURB has nothing to hold against them at the moment.

Although the Presidential Decree 957, has provisions that can hold SMDC liable for all their wrongdoings. We all just need to act as one and file a unified complaint against the developer, the condominium association, its board of trustees and everyone involved in this big fiasco and let them face the music.

I hope everyone really attends the general meeting this weekend.

Thanks for explaining. It’s much clearer now to me. And I see your point, that there’s a chance the developer can be made accountable on what was promised in their ads & brochures.
I wish you luck in your efforts to stand up for the rights of unit owners. Hope you get a lot of support from your neighbours.

Hi Danny,
There should be a provision in your Condominium by-laws pertaining to voting by proxy, allowing you to submit an instrument in writing appointing a proxy for a particular meeting. Here is a wording sample of such an instrument.

PROXY FORM
“Mezza Residences”

I/We _________________________ are registered Owners of unit ____________ and I/we hereby appoint __________________ or failing him/her ______________________ to vote on my/our behalf at the Special General Meeting to be held at 04:00 p.m. on Saturday, July 23, 2011 at the meeting hall of the Mezza Residences common area.

Resolutions to be voted on (if known):___________Yes___No___Proxy Discretion
#1 Condominium fee increase of 10 pesos ___________________ x
#2 resolution #2____________________________yes
#3 resolution #3_________________________________No
#4 etc.....

(please indicate your voting preference)

Signed:_____________________________________ Date:__________________________

(If you are unable to attend the meeting, please send your signed Proxy Form to ____________(name, address or fax number or email address (scan it)).

When we met with the legal rep of Smdc, they actually suggested giving you a proxy to allow you to vote, at first it sounded ok, then it hit Us... why give us proxies when it is our right to have the titles under our name. It seems they will allow you to vote, but on the background they can still make changes without us knowing because the titles are still under the developer's name.
We are really dealing with "Wise Guys" here and not "Good Guys" as they claim.

When we met with the legal rep of Smdc, they actually suggested giving you a proxy to allow you to vote, at first it sounded ok, then it hit Us... why give us proxies when it is our right to have the titles under our name. It seems they will allow you to vote, but on the background they can still make changes without us knowing because the titles are still under the developer's name.
We are really dealing with "Wise Guys" here and not "Good Guys" as they claim.

I don’t understand.

Let’s give an example. If both of us are unit owners, so both of us have the right to vote. If I cannot attend for whatever reason, I can sign a Proxy Instrument authorizing you my neighbour, to cast my vote as per my directions. If the resolution/s to be voted on is known, because it has been announced before hand like in an agenda, then I can even indicate how I would like to vote on each resolution, whether it is a “yes” or a “no”. If the resolution/s to be voted on is not known, then I can specify that my vote will be at your discretion as my Proxy. I would only authorize giving out my proxy vote to someone I trust, and not otherwise (like to the Property Management).

Now, there is a question with regards to who can vote. You raised a valid point that only those with CCT are allowed to vote. It is my contention, that this is not the case. If I have taken possession of the unit, have been paying the tax assessment on my unit, been paying the condominium fee for my unit, then I contend that I am entitled to vote. I don’t know what HLURB’s opinion on this is. But even if I am not entitled to vote for lack of CCT, then by the same breath, I cannot sign an authorization to give out my Proxy Vote.

If the Property Management is collecting signed authorization from unit owners so they can act as Proxies, I won’t entrust that to them. But If I know you as my neighbour, and we have discussed the issues before hand, but the resolutions to be voted on hasn’t been announced, and I cannot attend the meeting, I could sign an instrument authorizing you to vote on my behalf. When voting takes place, you can then vote for yourself, and in addition, you can cast a second vote for me because you are holding that instrument that I have given you.

When a resolution is voted on during a meeting, counting should take place during that same meeting. This is to ensure the validity of the votes. You can observe to make sure that they are not making any changes to the votes.

I don’t understand.

Let’s give an example. If both of us are unit owners, so both of us have the right to vote. If I cannot attend for whatever reason, I can sign a Proxy Instrument authorizing you my neighbour, to cast my vote as per my directions. If the resolution/s to be voted on is known, because it has been announced before hand like in an agenda, then I can even indicate how I would like to vote on each resolution, whether it is a “yes” or a “no”. If the resolution/s to be voted on is not known, then I can specify that my vote will be at your discretion as my Proxy. I would only authorize giving out my proxy vote to someone I trust, and not otherwise (like to the Property Management).

Now, there is a question with regards to who can vote. You raised a valid point that only those with CCT are allowed to vote. It is my contention, that this is not the case. If I have taken possession of the unit, have been paying the tax assessment on my unit, been paying the condominium fee for my unit, then I contend that I am entitled to vote. I don’t know what HLURB’s opinion on this is. But even if I am not entitled to vote for lack of CCT, then by the same breath, I cannot sign an authorization to give out my Proxy Vote.

If the Property Management is collecting signed authorization from unit owners so they can act as Proxies, I won’t entrust that to them. But If I know you as my neighbour, and we have discussed the issues before hand, but the resolutions to be voted on hasn’t been announced, and I cannot attend the meeting, I could sign an instrument authorizing you to vote on my behalf. When voting takes place, you can then vote for yourself, and in addition, you can cast a second vote for me because you are holding that instrument that I have given you.

When a resolution is voted on during a meeting, counting should take place during that same meeting. This is to ensure the validity of the votes. You can observe to make sure that they are not making any changes to the votes.

All the things you pointed out are correct, I think to clarify things, since we are all demanding our CCTs because it is long overdue already, the legal rep told us that they are willing to issue proxies to allow everyone to vote.
I guess that gives us the chance to have a say in any dcision that might come up... BUT, it is a two-sided coin; yes we can help steer a decision in a direction benefitting the community, but behind it, since SMDC still has the titles under their name, They, can actually still ammend things that we are not aware of, because they can hold private meetings and vote on anything.

*That is why the developement plan was altered at the HLURB.
*That is why there was no intention of finishing the other amenities promised.
*That is why there are individual representing the Board of Directors that no one knows who that person is exactly.
*That is why they can raise the association dues at a whim without even presenting the audited financial statements (which up until now they said they are preparing, I hope someone from the BIR looks into this for I know the deadline for filing the financial documents are past 3 months na; and yet they are still Padding..er preparing the financial statements pa rin)
*That is why they are charging outsiders P150 each for swimming at our common pool (there was an incident that a resident brought around 32 outsiders to swim) yet there are no records where the money goes to.
*That is why they allow parties at the common areas (where is that CLUBHOUSE anyway?) for a certain fee, again without any records to where the proceeds go to.

It is really depressing that there are really a lot of wrongdoings being allowed to continue at the expense of all the residents / unit buyers at Mezza.

We have already vowed to put a stop to all this madness.
We tried to settle it amicably, but all SMDC did was let us run in circles.
Now once the cases are files at the HLURB by the end of this month,
Lets see how attentive they will be to listen once all their license to sell for all their projects are suspended.

great job kerpogi. will monitor this.

by the way, since you are going to hlurb to clarify things, why don't you ask about the income coming from the billboards of the facade of mezza? also the rooftop. why does smdc still retain ownership of that? what are the undesignated common areas? why are they making their claim of those too? is charging 5.5% (other charges) legal? hlurb states no developer shall charge additional fee... blah blah. i forgot that already.

also what are the consequences for a developers misrepresenting their projects? like adding floors while under construction but the initial buyers did not know, charging facade to their benefit (like they did to light) its a total face lift.

oohhh... i almost forgot, smdc also issued a list of included appliances for their fully furnished units while marketing, but later make changes (deducting several items) after the clients already bought.

i'm sure i forgot something. the lists are too many. i'll add again if i remember.

Lastly, I would just like to clear things up.
The general meeting this Saturday is a meeting amongst all residents of Mezza Residences to address all the issues hounding the community.
This is not an official or sanctioned meeting. When we asked for their permission to post an announcement for meetings we were told that they do not allow such things. There were also efforts to let the board meet the people but to our disappointment that never came. There is no vote-taking for we are not allowed to participate in any election held by the condominium corporation.

I hope that we can all work as one solid community so that we can convince the HLURB to step in and fix the mess that SMDC has caused us.

Priorities for this movement are the following:
1.) Release of CCTs in our names (no proxies)
2.) Immediate assistance with the repairs of units with problems caused by substandard materials and violations on the building code.
(I hope I can upload some pictures soon to show you just how dangerous our investments have turned out to be, after seeing them; you will be convinced to have your walls taken down just to see if the project can pose as a safety hazard for your loved ones living there.)
3.) Completion of all promised amenities.
4.) Formation of a true Homeowners Association
5.) Presentation of the audited financial statements.
6.) Refunds for fraudulent water meter readings and charges.
7.) Refunds for the over charged Association dues that was raised without our consent.
8.) To file a motion to have Maynilad install individual meters so that a regular usage of 20 cu. mtr. per month will only cost P330 instead of P1221.40
9.) To abolish the retro charges of the Association Dues for lack of formal notice on when this actually began, aside from changing the 6-month deposit term into a 6-month do anything that they please working capital.
10.) To have the corporation apply our 6- month deposit to the months of Jan to June, 2011 instead for this was the period when all these problems started.

great job kerpogi. will monitor this.

by the way, since you are going to hlurb to clarify things, why don't you ask about the income coming from the billboards of the facade of mezza? also the rooftop. why does smdc still retain ownership of that? what are the undesignated common areas? why are they making their claim of those too? is charging 5.5% (other charges) legal? hlurb states no developer shall charge additional fee... blah blah. i forgot that already.

also what are the consequences for a developers misrepresenting their projects? like adding floors while under construction but the initial buyers did not know, charging facade to their benefit (like they did to light) its a total face lift.

oohhh... i almost forgot, smdc also issued a list of included appliances for their fully furnished units while marketing, but later make changes (deducting several items) after the clients already bought.

i'm sure i forgot something. the lists are too many. i'll add again if i remember.

Thanks for the insights keyo168, will look into that.
Smdc is really flooded with violations.
Only a valid homeowner association is supposed to charge equally residents expenses for common facilities, areas and services that are for the betterment of the residents. But in our case the Corporation is doing the charging also, manipulating itself as a two-headed snake making all residents of Mezza its milking cows, and if I am not mistaken, are opening a new corral called mezza 2 to gather a new set of cows to feed on.

I will update everyone on everything :)

Hi Danny, It is supposed to be per Title one vote. Ok naman for me kahit one vote as long as everyone has a power to cast a vote. What they plan to do is issue proxies to allow us to vote BUT keep the titles in their name so tey can keep amending rules and regulations to their advantage anytime.
I was even one of the unlucky few, who were fooled to pay the real estate tax, which we are not even supposed to pay yet because the titles are still under smdc's name. They will scare you that they will penalize you, and that they are paying it for you in advance.... Its all a LIE. What they are doing is against the law. We all agreed not to pay anymore dues starting this month.
We just need everyone to fight for their rights! I also believe even if one is overseas one has equal rights as anyone, because everyone worked hard for their units just the same.

kerpogi paki PM naman ng name/email/unit mo. i want to discuss some things with you as unit owners. baka kasi isa ka friend ng nanay ko.

regarding title, may kilala kasi ako sa loob ng smdc, dati ko pa syang friend nung nasa stateland sya at nakakuha din ako ng property sa kanila dati so nagkita na lang kami sa smdc na. sya naguupdate sa akin na inaayos na title ko and that was last year then i followed up kahapon sa customer service at swerte lang na mabilis reply nla though di pa din ako sure if reliable. actually i am requesting for a certificate na i fully paid with amount of my condo unit. kasi ko may paggagamitan ako. after series of email, this is what i got:

Dear XXXXX,

I would like to clarify that the Condominium Certificate of Title will not reflect the amount you paid in purchasing it. However, the Deed of Absolute Sale does reflect the Contract Price. I suppose you already have the notarized copy; if not, we can provide you a copy of the Deed of Absolute Sale when you claim the Title and Tax Declaration.

By the way Mam, we are expecting the Tax Declaration to be released by 3rd or 4th week of August.

If you have further questions, you may contact us at 857-0100 loc. 1162.

Respectfully yours,

Arnel Cornelio
Registration Officer

srddreservation@smdevelopment.com ang email address nya. ang kilala ko ay nasa accounts but not sa registration department nila.

paano ka nagbayad ng real estate tax ng wla ka title? sa kanila ka pay? well from experience i only pay real estate tax pag nasa akin na ang title. i heard bout it sa nanay ko na why daw wala pa ako binabayarang amelyar eh meron na daw ang iba. kako how can that happen eh wala pang title and i am one of the first tenants - i think. so naisip ko baka malakas yun unang mga nagka title pero when i checked bout it sa smdc iilan pa lang nga daw ang meron but i did not bothered to ask whos who kasi di ko din naman sila kilala.

the last time i attended the meeting (also the first), i posted here na i go for what you are all fighting for! tama yan! and i trust all of the unit owners who are standing there. pipirma kami sa anumang pinaglalabanang tama!

Lastly, I would just like to clear things up.
The general meeting this Saturday is a meeting amongst all residents of Mezza Residences to address all the issues hounding the community.
This is not an official or sanctioned meeting. When we asked for their permission to post an announcement for meetings we were told that they do not allow such things. There were also efforts to let the board meet the people but to our disappointment that never came. There is no vote-taking for we are not allowed to participate in any election held by the condominium corporation.

I hope that we can all work as one solid community so that we can convince the HLURB to step in and fix the mess that SMDC has caused us.

Priorities for this movement are the following:
1.) Release of CCTs in our names (no proxies)
2.) Immediate assistance with the repairs of units with problems caused by substandard materials and violations on the building code.
(I hope I can upload some pictures soon to show you just how dangerous our investments have turned out to be, after seeing them; you will be convinced to have your walls taken down just to see if the project can pose as a safety hazard for your loved ones living there.)
3.) Completion of all promised amenities.
4.) Formation of a true Homeowners Association
5.) Presentation of the audited financial statements.
6.) Refunds for fraudulent water meter readings and charges.
7.) Refunds for the over charged Association dues that was raised without our consent.
8.) To file a motion to have Maynilad install individual meters so that a regular usage of 20 cu. mtr. per month will only cost P330 instead of P1221.40
9.) To abolish the retro charges of the Association Dues for lack of formal notice on when this actually began, aside from changing the 6-month deposit term into a 6-month do anything that they please working capital.
10.) To have the corporation apply our 6- month deposit to the months of Jan to June, 2011 instead for this was the period when all these problems started.

mabait pa nga list nyo kasi if ako lang eh pwdeng lumabang magisa i will not really pay 70/sqm kasi it was not agreed upon by hoa. walang formal hoa pa kasi wla pang electon na naganap. i heard gusto na ng smdc magka hoa kasi nga ipasa na daw "responsibilities" sa uupo pero isa yan sa inaawayan nga ng mga acting officers kasi nga parang inaccept nla obligation na sila na ang magtatapos ng amenities- which is not fair!

naguluhan lang ako sa Item 1 mo? pwde ba magkaproxy sa CCT? pano yun nangyari?

at yung 6mos deposit nga dapat iapply lang if tapos na nila all amenities. pwde siguro may pro-rated silang singilin like 35 or 40 i dont know pero instead bumaba dinagdagan pa at ginawang 70. aysus. tuloy nyo yan!

paano po kami makaka vote kung nasa abroad kami? wala pa rin po sa amin ang CCT.

i read the docs i have before at ang tanda ko its not 1 per unit parang by share. paki double check na lang. i remember i went home last May, the acting officers borrowed our documents and my mother said not all unit owners have such at lagi nga daw nahihiram yung aming copy. paki basa na lang kasi all docs ko nasa pinas.

i read the docs i have before at ang tanda ko its not 1 per unit parang by share. paki double check na lang. i remember i went home last May, the acting officers borrowed our documents and my mother said not all unit owners have such at lagi nga daw nahihiram yung aming copy. paki basa na lang kasi all docs ko nasa pinas.

dapat nga po per share, kasi unfair sa mga owner ng bigger units.
halimbawa kayo ning 3 bedroom unit owner = 1 vote
tapos ako owner ng dalawang 1 bedroom unit = 2 vote
ang HOA na binabayaran ng one 3 bedroom unit compared to two 1 bedroom unit ay halos parehas lang o baka mas malaki pa ang binabayaran ng 3 bedroom unit owner.

Thanks for the insights keyo168, will look into that.
Smdc is really flooded with violations.
Only a valid homeowner association is supposed to charge equally residents expenses for common facilities, areas and services that are for the betterment of the residents. But in our case the Corporation is doing the charging also, manipulating itself as a two-headed snake making all residents of Mezza its milking cows, and if I am not mistaken, are opening a new corral called mezza 2 to gather a new set of cows to feed on.

I will update everyone on everything :)


yes, slay the two-headed beast (crocodile) with your mighty sword! you'll be doing all smdc buyers a big favor. all the best on your endeavor.

kerpogi paki PM naman ng name/email/unit mo. i want to discuss some things with you as unit owners. baka kasi isa ka friend ng nanay ko.

regarding title, may kilala kasi ako sa loob ng smdc, dati ko pa syang friend nung nasa stateland sya at nakakuha din ako ng property sa kanila dati so nagkita na lang kami sa smdc na. sya naguupdate sa akin na inaayos na title ko and that was last year then i followed up kahapon sa customer service at swerte lang na mabilis reply nla though di pa din ako sure if reliable. actually i am requesting for a certificate na i fully paid with amount of my condo unit. kasi ko may paggagamitan ako. after series of email, this is what i got:

Dear XXXXX,

I would like to clarify that the Condominium Certificate of Title will not reflect the amount you paid in purchasing it. However, the Deed of Absolute Sale does reflect the Contract Price. I suppose you already have the notarized copy; if not, we can provide you a copy of the Deed of Absolute Sale when you claim the Title and Tax Declaration.

By the way Mam, we are expecting the Tax Declaration to be released by 3rd or 4th week of August.

If you have further questions, you may contact us at 857-0100 loc. 1162.

Respectfully yours,

Arnel Cornelio
Registration Officer

srddreservation@smdevelopment.com ang email address nya. ang kilala ko ay nasa accounts but not sa registration department nila.

paano ka nagbayad ng real estate tax ng wla ka title? sa kanila ka pay? well from experience i only pay real estate tax pag nasa akin na ang title. i heard bout it sa nanay ko na why daw wala pa ako binabayarang amelyar eh meron na daw ang iba. kako how can that happen eh wala pang title and i am one of the first tenants - i think. so naisip ko baka malakas yun unang mga nagka title pero when i checked bout it sa smdc iilan pa lang nga daw ang meron but i did not bothered to ask whos who kasi di ko din naman sila kilala.

the last time i attended the meeting (also the first), i posted here na i go for what you are all fighting for! tama yan! and i trust all of the unit owners who are standing there. pipirma kami sa anumang pinaglalabanang tama!

They asked me to go to M.O.A. to get a proxy note, then I paid it at the City Hall. Gulat nga mom-in-law ko when she saw it was still under the developer's name.

That's what got me to think. What did they do to our Transfer Tax fund that we all paid vefore being given a clearance for moving in?

Thats over 20M in funds that's earning interest somewhere....Hmmmmm.
Normally if one pays the transfer tax, transfer takes 2-3 weeks sa CityHall.
Could this be the reason?

mabait pa nga list nyo kasi if ako lang eh pwdeng lumabang magisa i will not really pay 70/sqm kasi it was not agreed upon by hoa. walang formal hoa pa kasi wla pang electon na naganap. i heard gusto na ng smdc magka hoa kasi nga ipasa na daw "responsibilities" sa uupo pero isa yan sa inaawayan nga ng mga acting officers kasi nga parang inaccept nla obligation na sila na ang magtatapos ng amenities- which is not fair!

naguluhan lang ako sa Item 1 mo? pwde ba magkaproxy sa CCT? pano yun nangyari?

at yung 6mos deposit nga dapat iapply lang if tapos na nila all amenities. pwde siguro may pro-rated silang singilin like 35 or 40 i dont know pero instead bumaba dinagdagan pa at ginawang 70. aysus. tuloy nyo yan!

With regards to issuance of Proxy, that's what they suggested para siguro di magwala yung mga tao.. thinking na voting rights lang ang habol ng tao.
Di nila alam na we need it in our name, because we paid for it.

Ibalik nalang nila yung transfer tax if di nila magawa... Ay wait... Naku, baka mahinto isang developement project nila hehehe.

dapat nga po per share, kasi unfair sa mga owner ng bigger units.
halimbawa kayo ning 3 bedroom unit owner = 1 vote
tapos ako owner ng dalawang 1 bedroom unit = 2 vote
ang HOA na binabayaran ng one 3 bedroom unit compared to two 1 bedroom unit ay halos parehas lang o baka mas malaki pa ang binabayaran ng 3 bedroom unit owner.

Hmmm, wonder how many votes i can get?
I have a 3-bedroom suite
and a 2-bedroom suite also.

@ningnicole

baka naman tawag diyan birth pain pa rin.

Based on what you have related thus far, I gather that the “Final Turnover” of Mezza hasn’t yet occurred. This is an important date in the life of a Condominium Project. This can only take place when the following has occurred:

- 50-100% of the units have been turned over to the buyers,
- 50-100% of owners are in possession of their CCTs to enable them to vote,
- the amenities and common areas are completed,
- there is no more major construction work taking place,
- the remaining construction work pertains to minor finishing touches and rectifying deficiencies.

When the above has taken place, then the Developer can perform the “Final Turnover”. Its implications are as follows.

- The Developer no longer have majority vote.
- The first “Annual General Meeting” is announced. This event is important because the election of officers of the Condominium Board from the ranks of unit owners will be voted on by his peers.
- With the election of the officers of the Condominium Board, control of the Condominium Corporation is rested from the Developer and control is ceded to the newly elected officers of the Condominium Board. This is the start of the HOA. The names of the officers will be submitted to HLURB.

Unless the “Final Turnover” has occurred, any effort you make in controlling or influencing the directions of the affairs of the Condominium Project is at best miniscule if not futile, because you don’t have authoritative say in the running of the affairs of the Condominium Corporation, and whatever you say is merely a suggestion for their consideration. At the moment, the officers of the Condominium Board have been put in place by the Developer and coming from the ranks of their employees as they still have majority shares of the corporation.

Hope this helps in explaining what’s been happening thus far.

dapat nga po per share, kasi unfair sa mga owner ng bigger units.
halimbawa kayo ning 3 bedroom unit owner = 1 vote
tapos ako owner ng dalawang 1 bedroom unit = 2 vote
ang HOA na binabayaran ng one 3 bedroom unit compared to two 1 bedroom unit ay halos parehas lang o baka mas malaki pa ang binabayaran ng 3 bedroom unit owner.

Allocation of vote count entitlement works differently when compared to shares of condominium fees for common expenses. In the case of condominium fees, payment is distributed “pro rata” among all owners base on the respective percentage allocations set forth in the by-laws. In the case of voting, it is per “unit factor”, that is to say “one unit equals one vote”. This is so to level the playing field among unit owners, whether they own a smaller or bigger unit.

This is the standard in Canada & the U.S.A. and I suspect the same with any condominium in the Philippines. Correct me if I’m wrong if you have read the Mezza by-laws.

tsk tsk tsk owner unit ako... attend ako ng miting mmya... saan ba ako aaten sa july 23 na 4:00pm o sa July 24 na 7:00 pm 5th floor parehas ba iyan..... Ano ba ang pag bobotohan natin para maging simple lang ang usapan.... sorry hindi ko masyadong maintindihan.......

tsk tsk tsk owner unit ako... attend ako ng miting mmya... saan ba ako aaten sa july 23 na 4:00pm o sa July 24 na 7:00 pm 5th floor parehas ba iyan..... Ano ba ang pag bobotohan natin para maging simple lang ang usapan.... sorry hindi ko masyadong maintindihan.......

if andyan ka naman sa pinas jejemon, better attend the 2 meetings to weigh things if ano kaibahan. i am getting first hand info from my mother and actually she warned me na may mga unit owners na parang kampi sa smdc. looks like may 2 groups. parang union din ata ito! thats why nag iingat din ako sa mga sinasabi ko kasi though konti lang naman talaga ang unit owners na nasa forum eh you dont know whos who. sometimes may mga comments na very isolated at after confirming privately eh di naman pala ganun.

take note we real unit owners are at stake here. yes, we can get on some advice on this forum, but not all will be helpful but rather will just add worries, worst makikipagtalo ka pa. since may mga meeting ng nagaganap, that is still the proper venue to discuss our concerns and expect solutions. just pray na yung mga acting officers eh may real concern talaga sa ating property and will not be swayed sa smdc later na tayo ang malulugi.

Sa mga aatend ng meeting mamaya, pwede po pa update?

tsk tsk tsk owner unit ako... attend ako ng miting mmya... saan ba ako aaten sa july 23 na 4:00pm o sa July 24 na 7:00 pm 5th floor parehas ba iyan..... Ano ba ang pag bobotohan natin para maging simple lang ang usapan.... sorry hindi ko masyadong maintindihan.......

No Voting po.
Just unifying all complaints.

Para sabay sabay ang pag file sa HLURB

Sa mga aatend ng meeting mamaya, pwede po pa update?

No Problem Sir Danny

if andyan ka naman sa pinas jejemon, better attend the 2 meetings to weigh things if ano kaibahan. i am getting first hand info from my mother and actually she warned me na may mga unit owners na parang kampi sa smdc. looks like may 2 groups. parang union din ata ito! thats why nag iingat din ako sa mga sinasabi ko kasi though konti lang naman talaga ang unit owners na nasa forum eh you dont know whos who. sometimes may mga comments na very isolated at after confirming privately eh di naman pala ganun.

take note we real unit owners are at stake here. yes, we can get on some advice on this forum, but not all will be helpful but rather will just add worries, worst makikipagtalo ka pa. since may mga meeting ng nagaganap, that is still the proper venue to discuss our concerns and expect solutions. just pray na yung mga acting officers eh may real concern talaga sa ating property and will not be swayed sa smdc later na tayo ang malulugi.

Agree. I remember there used to be people who wanted to settle things amicably, but they do not realize SMDC is just using them :(

i just confirmed from my friend who owns a unit in Avida condo in San Lazaro Manila na little more than 2 years nya nakuha ang condo title nya. so i think yung claim bout cct na makuha after full payment eh should not a big issue. just a note....

Agree. I remember there used to be people who wanted to settle things amicably, but they do not realize SMDC is just using them :(

ang unang usapan naman talaga di ba dapat amicable kasi we are civilized people. nagkakademandahan lang naman pag di masettle amicably. let us just lessen pointing down to others. im sure iisa lang ang gusto ng unit owners, may maiba man dyan baka di yan tunay na unit owner or super kaiba lang sya. so sana yung mga mas nakakaintindi eh konting usap pa sa mga naliligaw.

take note also that we unit owners should not only highlight the issues in mezza. as we have privately discussed, maayos ang pagtira natin mezza (.e. not all iranians in mezza are "bad", efficient security and cleaning personnel) at mishandled lang at may mga dapat itama before magbotohan for hoa officers. and look around other condo units if sa mezza lang ba yan nangyayari ito.

ang unang usapan naman talaga di ba dapat amicable kasi we are civilized people. nagkakademandahan lang naman pag di masettle amicably. let us just lessen pointing down to others. im sure iisa lang ang gusto ng unit owners, may maiba man dyan baka di yan tunay na unit owner or super kaiba lang sya. so sana yung mga mas nakakaintindi eh konting usap pa sa mga naliligaw.

take note also that we unit owners should not only highlight the issues in mezza. as we have privately discussed, maayos ang pagtira natin mezza (.e. not all iranians in mezza are "bad", efficient security and cleaning personnel) at mishandled lang at may mga dapat itama before magbotohan for hoa officers. and look around other condo units if sa mezza lang ba yan nangyayari ito.
Good point there. I'm a newbie here. Bought a unit sa light and it's our first investment. Came across this thread while reading yung thread ng light. Some things that i've read here makes me worry. I just hope na sana maayos na yung mga prob sa mezza para naman di na magworry mga investors ng smdc. Sana din we made the right decision sa smdc

It's really alarming that all these problems and conflicts are cropping up. The fact that SMDC is new to Condominium developer..., hope that they Do Not scare current and future investors away. They claim to be "good guys" hope they Do Not turn out to be the "wise guys" who take advantage of their investors (unit owners). People work hard to invest for a nice, secure, comfortable place to live. I hope that the developer make true to what they advertise and deliver all the amenities. I hope to live in a peaceful, harmonious environment and enjoy the fruit of my investment at SMDC property!!! Hope that SMDC will promptly and actively take part to resolve all significant concerns involved, the soonest possible time.

This is an article I saw in the Los Angeles Times today titled " Shaky Public Policy" by Claire Berlinski
I'm sharing an except from the article...

I was surprise that "MANILA" is included. And I wonder what building code was used and applied in condominium buildings by SMDC. I don't mean to scare you guys, I am just as concern as anyone. The article is kinda long, so I just got the paragraphs that mentioned Manila and the building code. Hope there's someone who can enlighten us (unit owners) for our safety in living in these high-rise condominiums.


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may update po ba sa mga naka attend ng meeting?

Sana na we can see very soon yung remaining deliverables nila at least before umupo ang elected officers. Kailan ka ulit uwi baphi? Baka ako sa
Nov/Dec na after this. How I wish I was there and and have some of your tatays ricecakes again lol.Seriously, namimiss ko ang magstay sa Mezza.I am jealous of you ha,ilang beses ka ng nakauwi in a year.Me?not sure basta If I have the chance I will sneak out to have a dip in the pool.Is it still peaceful and quiet sa park?Kahit dun ako magstay sa isang unit,I will inform you should I get there.Regards to your nanay and tatay and kids.

Hey Baphi kamusta na? Uwi kami sa nov 10-26 of this year ... sana magkita tayo. dami palang problema sa mezza hehehe wala akong ka-alam alam ... i guess I will find out pag uwi ko ... hope to see you in nov.

Hi Everyone,

Sorry it took some time for me to update you guys, Sir Danny also.
Last week's meeting took place at around 7pm.

Here is the list of the Issues that were tackled in the general meeting among homeowners / unit buyers and residents.

* The Agreed Non-Payment of Association Dues unlawfully being levied by the current corporation starting from this month. (kindly continue paying water & electrical bills for these are utility bills that we consume)
* The explanation on how to be vigilant in the recording of your water meter readings which leads to fraudulent water bills that have recently been discovered.
* The distribution of the Affidavit template for all concerned homeowners / unit buyers and residents who are filing complaints.
* Updates on the talks between representatives of the group and those of the developer (SMDC) which resulted in acts of Bad Faith, where promises where broken and supposed implementations were taken back. For those who may have missed the past meetings, the rate rollback of P60.00 which was verbally agreed upon and the schedule of the completion of the missing amenities which was also verbally promised to be posted thru a bulletin, have both been cancelled.
* The Schedule of the group filing of complaints at the HLURB has been finalized to be on Monday, August 1, 2011
* That there will be a regular meeting every week

And yesterday, we had another weekly meeting and this was what was discussed by the majority:

* The filing of the petition to the Mayor's office on Monday also. Everyone who attended the meeting affixed their signatures on the petition which covers complaints on the subject of Structural and Water concerns. This was requested by one city councilor so that they can step in and help investigate on what is really happening to the project.
* The Petition covers:
1.) Defective / Sub-standard Water Piping & Plumbing System - which has been causing leaks in the unit ceilings, causing fast deterioration of units of the buyers.
2.) The Tampering / Padding of water meter readings (with evidence) of CBRE, the authorized agent of both the developer and the corporation (Mezza Residences Condominium Association, Inc)
3.) The drainage problem on all units. (due to sub standard materials)
4.) Structural damages on the buildings itself after last week's earthquake.
5.) The inadequate air vents on the fire escape / imposition of one-way entry system on the fire escape
6.) The missing Laundry and Drying areas on several units that are requirements on the building code. Since most of the units were originally designed as 2 to 3 bedroom units which have the provisions, after the units were cut up to smaller units, plans were not made to ensure each cut would have the laundry/drying facility anymore. I believe those who bought units on tower 3 & 4 were shown model units of tower 1 & 2 and were shocked when they got something different from what they were shown.
7.) Malfunction of water sprinkler system / fire alarm system - If you did not know, there was a fire last year on the 29th floor of Tower 2. The Sprinkler system did not work. Nor did the fire alarm activated. Worse, the water hose on the emergency fire cabinet did not even have water coming out of it. A volunteer fire fighter had to go to another floor just to see if a working fire hose was available. And all CBRE and the Corporation can come up with is: Its the fault of a Iranian tenant....Great, blame it on who caused it, but not looking into the malfunction of the basic safeguards that were in place, under which premise the corporation canceled the fire insurance policy of the building because they have deemed that there was no need for it since the building is made of High-end materials and with the following safeguards in place. Tsk Tsk.

But aside from this, the residents also planned the following community activities:

- Planning of a community party to help everyone get to know each other.
- A Medical mission service, offering free Blood Pressure checkups for all residents especially the elderly.

Thats it for now, will update you again next week.

Thanks!

Hi Everyone,

Sorry it took some time for me to update you guys, Sir Danny also.
Last week's meeting took place at around 7pm.

Here is the list of the Issues that were tackled in the general meeting among homeowners / unit buyers and residents.

* The Agreed Non-Payment of Association Dues unlawfully being levied by the current corporation starting from this month. (kindly continue paying water & electrical bills for these are utility bills that we consume)
* The explanation on how to be vigilant in the recording of your water meter readings which leads to fraudulent water bills that have recently been discovered.
* The distribution of the Affidavit template for all concerned homeowners / unit buyers and residents who are filing complaints.
* Updates on the talks between representatives of the group and those of the developer (SMDC) which resulted in acts of Bad Faith, where promises where broken and supposed implementations were taken back. For those who may have missed the past meetings, the rate rollback of P60.00 which was verbally agreed upon and the schedule of the completion of the missing amenities which was also verbally promised to be posted thru a bulletin, have both been cancelled.
* The Schedule of the group filing of complaints at the HLURB has been finalized to be on Monday, August 1, 2011
* That there will be a regular meeting every week

And yesterday, we had another weekly meeting and this was what was discussed by the majority:

* The filing of the petition to the Mayor's office on Monday also. Everyone who attended the meeting affixed their signatures on the petition which covers complaints on the subject of Structural and Water concerns. This was requested by one city councilor so that they can step in and help investigate on what is really happening to the project.
* The Petition covers:
1.) Defective / Sub-standard Water Piping & Plumbing System - which has been causing leaks in the unit ceilings, causing fast deterioration of units of the buyers.
2.) The Tampering / Padding of water meter readings (with evidence) of CBRE, the authorized agent of both the developer and the corporation (Mezza Residences Condominium Association, Inc)
3.) The drainage problem on all units. (due to sub standard materials)
4.) Structural damages on the buildings itself after last week's earthquake.
5.) The inadequate air vents on the fire escape / imposition of one-way entry system on the fire escape
6.) The missing Laundry and Drying areas on several units that are requirements on the building code. Since most of the units were originally designed as 2 to 3 bedroom units which have the provisions, after the units were cut up to smaller units, plans were not made to ensure each cut would have the laundry/drying facility anymore. I believe those who bought units on tower 3 & 4 were shown model units of tower 1 & 2 and were shocked when they got something different from what they were shown.
7.) Malfunction of water sprinkler system / fire alarm system - If you did not know, there was a fire last year on the 29th floor of Tower 2. The Sprinkler system did not work. Nor did the fire alarm activated. Worse, the water hose on the emergency fire cabinet did not even have water coming out of it. A volunteer fire fighter had to go to another floor just to see if a working fire hose was available. And all CBRE and the Corporation can come up with is: Its the fault of a Iranian tenant....Great, blame it on who caused it, but not looking into the malfunction of the basic safeguards that were in place, under which premise the corporation canceled the fire insurance policy of the building because they have deemed that there was no need for it since the building is made of High-end materials and with the following safeguards in place. Tsk Tsk.

But aside from this, the residents also planned the following community activities:

- Planning of a community party to help everyone get to know each other.
- A Medical mission service, offering free Blood Pressure checkups for all residents especially the elderly.

Thats it for now, will update you again next week.

Thanks!


Thank you po Sir Kerpogi sa updates.
lahat po ng umattend nag agree po na hindi natin bayaran yun association dues. Hindi na rin ako magbabayad kung ganun ang pinag usapan, kasi wala rin ako dyan at wala rin nakatira sa unit ko.

ano po yun naging damage ng intensity 6 earthquake dyan sa mezza?

salamat po.

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/th_Playground.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/?action=view&current=Playground.jpg)

Here is the latest amenity completed by SMDC.
Its the Children's playground promised us by the developer.

All we need now is to transform all our kids into smurfs to enjoy using it :)

This should be used on their future marketing materials for their other projects that promises a children's playground.

grabe, these are people, design and structural issues. HLURB na talaga to. sana maayos at matuto ang SMDC that they cannot short-change their customers. Every condominium developer has its own shortcomings pero, lahat ata ng 'defects' nagsama-sama.

Thank you po Sir Kerpogi sa updates.
lahat po ng umattend nag agree po na hindi natin bayaran yun association dues. Hindi na rin ako magbabayad kung ganun ang pinag usapan, kasi wala rin ako dyan at wala rin nakatira sa unit ko.

ano po yun naging damage ng intensity 6 earthquake dyan sa mezza?

salamat po.

cracks on the outer wall, and floors, will try to go around and take pics if nalibre ako :)

It is common practice for newly built condominiums in Canada & elsewhere, for the newly elected officers of the Condominium Corporation (elected by the HOA), to hire an independent engineering firm to take a thorough inspection of the building to assess adherence to building codes and note any deficiencies found. Their findings are then submitted to the developer for rectification.

thanks sa updates. good may weekly meeting na among unit owners para magkaroon ng regular updates. keep on updating us sa pagsubmit ng reklamo sa HLURB and City Mayor office.

kindly clarify some points:

1. so di na muna magbabayad ng hoa fees from this month?
2. yung defective / sub-standard Water Piping & Plumbing System is in all towers and units? di ko kasi narinig yan sa mother ko
3. yung computation ng water readings naririnig ko yan sa nanay ko na may mali maling computations nga
4. anong issue sa drainage on all units? same, now ko lang din sya narinig.
5. sana matignan agad ng city hall yung structural damages mentioned as indicated. after earthquake, dapat talaga tignan all buildings - not only SMDC.
6) may drying areas din sa 1br di ba? i mean i saw it in tower 1 and 2 na mga 1br units. at iba nga shapes ng ibang mga units sa tower 3 and 4.

good also that some residents are also planning community activities. last May may mga na meet akong medical doctors na tenants dyan and i know some mothers na nurses na unit owners din dyan- kaya magandang move yan.

I made an <Mezza Owner Online> in facebook para mas madali kayo mkapag-update regaring whats happening tp mezza and whats the latest issues just join the <Mezza Owner Online> in face book... to check click on the link po the join the group tnx :)
http://www.facebook.com/groups/212321522153999/?ap=1

I made an <Mezza Owner Online> in facebook para mas madali kayo mkapag-update regaring whats happening tp mezza and whats the latest issues just join the <Mezza Owner Online> in face book... to check click on the link po the join the group tnx :)
http://www.facebook.com/groups/212321522153999/?ap=1

this is good...

Thank you for all the updates. I Cannot believe that a big developer like SMDC would cheat it's customers (unit owners). Especially the safety of the people living in their high rise condominium.

What!!! A newly built condominium buildings have CRACKS!!! SMDC are you really the good guys. It should not be all money. SMDC must consider customer satisfaction and safety.

I was not aware of the earthquake recently. Probably I missed it in TFC (tv patrol).
This is truly alarming!!!

dapat talaga matignan ng structural engineer yung extent ng damage as alleged and posted as one of the issues. cracks ba yang structural damages na sinasabi mo kerpogi? big and many? bakit di muna paalisin mga tenants for safety, until it ruled out na okey naman pa sya? i remember nung nagaaral ako na nagkalindol, di pinaoccupy mga school buldings until na check ng city hall.

anyway, unit home owners we should all agree na maielevate mga issues at consult authority sa mga complaints para maaddress sya at maensure ang safety ng tenants. i just hope all complaints aired are with technical basis at it could create worries to other unit owners.

August 1 na today so as you posted kerpogi, nasa HLURB na siguro sya at this time and hopefully sa city hall din.

join the fb ni april with unit owners.

kerpogi napagusapan ba sa mga meeting ang pag hire ng 3rd party to check on building structural integrity and mga claims na defective/sub standard?

that would be of big help para malaman ano ba talaga ang dapat ipag worry. hirap kasi ng claims if may isolated case/s lang pero will be understood na its for all mezza. para mabalikan ang Contractor, project management group at mga consultants na humawak ng building construction if we have the solid basis. they are liable for that if found true.

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/Petition.jpg

Hi everyone,

Just got free from work, and I would just like to update everyone on the latest developments with regards to the Mezza Residents' complaints against the developer SMDC. Last August 1, Monday Mezza Reps Atty. Ernie Peralta and Dra. Tes Yambot went to QC city hall to personally submit the signed petition (which was signed by concerned residents last Saturday during the weekly meeting) to the office of the Mayor. We were also greeted by Councilor Anthony "Onyx" Crisologo, who was kind enough to spend time with us in going over the petition which was accompanied with photos that provided proof of the common problems facing all Mezza residents now. He was surprised to see the level of damage and the poor quality of work done to the units. He also shared the same concerns with regards to the pictures of substandard materials used for the units' water and drainage lines. He has assured as that he will call a special hearing the moment their regular sessions starts in two weeks. This is really good news :)

As for the submission of Affidavits, we have to re-schedule this, for latest developments have led us to discover more violations not only from the developer, but also the corporation and the administration office who handles the so-called association concerns.

We will share these new findings with everyone on this Saturday's weekly general meeting.

Thank you for taking time to read this.

kerpogi napagusapan ba sa mga meeting ang pag hire ng 3rd party to check on building structural integrity and mga claims na defective/sub standard?

that would be of big help para malaman ano ba talaga ang dapat ipag worry. hirap kasi ng claims if may isolated case/s lang pero will be understood na its for all mezza. para mabalikan ang Contractor, project management group at mga consultants na humawak ng building construction if we have the solid basis. they are liable for that if found true.

Yung mismong City Inspector ng Q.C. ang pupunta to inspect as requested by the office of the councilor and the mayor.

thanks sa updates. good may weekly meeting na among unit owners para magkaroon ng regular updates. keep on updating us sa pagsubmit ng reklamo sa HLURB and City Mayor office.

kindly clarify some points:

1. so di na muna magbabayad ng hoa fees from this month?
Yes. Since there is no actual homeowners association, there should be no association dues and as long as Final turnover has not taken place, it is still under the developer's expense dapat ang maintenance.
2. yung defective / sub-standard Water Piping & Plumbing System is in all towers and units? di ko kasi narinig yan sa mother ko
Majority I think sa Higher floors, we have to wait for the City Inspector to confirm this.
3. yung computation ng water readings naririnig ko yan sa nanay ko na may mali maling computations nga.
Illegal Padding was the culprit
4. anong issue sa drainage on all units? same, now ko lang din sya narinig.
Problems I think stemmed from the fact that the units were planned as 2 to 3 BR units were suddenly cut-up to smaller units without considering that there are modifications to the water/drainage lines which I think ginawan lang ng paraan. Some units even don't have a laundry and drying area which is against the building code.
5. sana matignan agad ng city hall yung structural damages mentioned as indicated. after earthquake, dapat talaga tignan all buildings - not only SMDC.
Very Soon.
6) may drying areas din sa 1br di ba? i mean i saw it in tower 1 and 2 na mga 1br units. at iba nga shapes ng ibang mga units sa tower 3 and 4.
That is what I need to confirm with the residents. Hard to put everyone together even on weekends, nakakapagod din, pero as long as for the greater good ok lang.
good also that some residents are also planning community activities. last May may mga na meet akong medical doctors na tenants dyan and i know some mothers na nurses na unit owners din dyan- kaya magandang move yan.
That is the true nature of a Community kasi :)

I made an <Mezza Owner Online> in facebook para mas madali kayo mkapag-update regaring whats happening tp mezza and whats the latest issues just join the <Mezza Owner Online> in face book... to check click on the link po the join the group tnx :)
http://www.facebook.com/groups/212321522153999/?ap=1

April, do you guys join the meeting?
Are you related kay christian? :)

I saw him Saturday afternoon, sayang di siya nag attend :(

Hope to get your presence this weekend, since you represent close to 200 unit owners whose units you rent out, their support would be greatly appreciated :)

Forgot to add today's update pala.

Today August 2, Tuesday; a strong typhoon hit Metro Manila.
As expected a long line of poor residents were lined up at the admin office.
Everyone was panicking because their units were leaking water, some from the windows and some from their walls. I was lucky enough to interview some of these poor residents and found out they belong to the higher floors (25th - 34th) they said this was not the first time. I took this opportunity to actually take snaps and videos of the leaks which I can use as records for the general inspection. Even the poor Iranian tenants were not spared, some were having difficulty trying to ask for assistance, I met one whose floor was already starting to flood because there was no way to stop water from coming in.

I will try my best to see what we can do to help them in the future.

I want to prioritize inspecting the fire exits first. Concerns were raised in last weekend's meetings that there are problems with these also. Issues raised were:

1.) Poor or no ventilation provisions at all.
A danger just in case a fire breaks out, if smoke gets acess to the lower floors, the residents from the upper floors will be trapped or possibly suffocate with all the smoke will go in only one direction....UP, since there is no adequate ventilation for the smoke to escape.
2.) The Auto-lock doors.
I need to organize a sort of drill to see if this is a concern. Some were citing that should the door accidentally close behind them, they cannot get back to assist others or the family that are still in their unit.
3.) The Floors assigned as exits are sometimes locked.
The floors assigned for evacuees exit are closed. (3rd and 4th was closed)
only 5th floor and ground floor were accessible. We need to have monitors who can take responsibility for every floor if in case a fire breaks out.

That's it for tonight... will see if I have more news for tomorrow :)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/th_Playground.jpg (http://s847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/?action=view&current=Playground.jpg)

Here is the latest amenity completed by SMDC.
Its the Children's playground promised us by the developer.

All we need now is to transform all our kids into smurfs to enjoy using it :)

This should be used on their future marketing materials for their other projects that promises a children's playground.

I can't wait for this weekend, to see how the some 200++ kids of Mezza Residences can fit in this children's playground delivered by SMDC

Forgot to add today's update pala.

Today August 2, Tuesday; a strong typhoon hit Metro Manila.
As expected a long line of poor residents were lined up at the admin office.
Everyone was panicking because their units were leaking water, some from the windows and some from their walls. I was lucky enough to interview some of these poor residents and found out they belong to the higher floors (25th - 34th) they said this was not the first time. I took this opportunity to actually take snaps and videos of the leaks which I can use as records for the general inspection. Even the poor Iranian tenants were not spared, some were having difficulty trying to ask for assistance, I met one whose floor was already starting to flood because there was no way to stop water from coming in.

I will try my best to see what we can do to help them in the future.

I want to prioritize inspecting the fire exits first. Concerns were raised in last weekend's meetings that there are problems with these also. Issues raised were:

1.) Poor or no ventilation provisions at all.
A danger just in case a fire breaks out, if smoke gets acess to the lower floors, the residents from the upper floors will be trapped or possibly suffocate with all the smoke will go in only one direction....UP, since there is no adequate ventilation for the smoke to escape.
2.) The Auto-lock doors.
I need to organize a sort of drill to see if this is a concern. Some were citing that should the door accidentally close behind them, they cannot get back to assist others or the family that are still in their unit.
3.) The Floors assigned as exits are sometimes locked.
The floors assigned for evacuees exit are closed. (3rd and 4th was closed)
only 5th floor and ground floor were accessible. We need to have monitors who can take responsibility for every floor if in case a fire breaks out.

That's it for tonight... will see if I have more news for tomorrow :)

Thanks for all the updates, Im also a unit owner at T2 26th floor, currently occupied by an Iranian tenant, need to call leasing department if there some issues in my unit. I wish I can attend meetings ( I work overseas)
I like the idea of medical mission service, Im a nurse, I can volunteer during my vacation.
GOD Bless your heart for doing such a great job!!!:applause::applause:

Forgot to add today's update pala.

Today August 2, Tuesday; a strong typhoon hit Metro Manila.
As expected a long line of poor residents were lined up at the admin office.
Everyone was panicking because their units were leaking water, some from the windows and some from their walls. I was lucky enough to interview some of these poor residents and found out they belong to the higher floors (25th - 34th) they said this was not the first time. I took this opportunity to actually take snaps and videos of the leaks which I can use as records for the general inspection. Even the poor Iranian tenants were not spared, some were having difficulty trying to ask for assistance, I met one whose floor was already starting to flood because there was no way to stop water from coming in.

I will try my best to see what we can do to help them in the future.

I want to prioritize inspecting the fire exits first. Concerns were raised in last weekend's meetings that there are problems with these also. Issues raised were:

1.) Poor or no ventilation provisions at all.
A danger just in case a fire breaks out, if smoke gets acess to the lower floors, the residents from the upper floors will be trapped or possibly suffocate with all the smoke will go in only one direction....UP, since there is no adequate ventilation for the smoke to escape.
2.) The Auto-lock doors.
I need to organize a sort of drill to see if this is a concern. Some were citing that should the door accidentally close behind them, they cannot get back to assist others or the family that are still in their unit.
3.) The Floors assigned as exits are sometimes locked.
The floors assigned for evacuees exit are closed. (3rd and 4th was closed)
only 5th floor and ground floor were accessible. We need to have monitors who can take responsibility for every floor if in case a fire breaks out.

That's it for tonight... will see if I have more news for tomorrow :)


I give you some tips..

Tell the inspectors to check if SMDC and its contractors provide vent pipes for their plumbing system, without it your system will create vacuum dahil walang hangin na lalabas to let the water flow freely. Check also if they provided cleanouts in every turns/elbows, diyan madalas nagbabara kung may debris at dapat nabubuksan ang cleanout para maitulak ang bara.

Tell them also to check the fittings of your water and drainage line, there was a photo of one of the projects of SMDC na may nakitang they welded the pipes instead of using threaded pipes or bolted flanges, may balita rin ako na some of the workers intentionally pull out the rubber gaskets of PVC pipes dahil nahihirapan sila pagdugtungin ang mga pipes and fittings or maaring nagtitipid sa paggamit ng pipe soap/lubricant.

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/Petition.jpg

Hi everyone,

Just got free from work, and I would just like to update everyone on the latest developments with regards to the Mezza Residents' complaints against the developer SMDC. Last August 1, Monday Mezza Reps Atty. Ernie Peralta and Dra. Tes Yambot went to QC city hall to personally submit the signed petition (which was signed by concerned residents last Saturday during the weekly meeting) to the office of the Mayor. We were also greeted by Councilor Anthony "Onyx" Crisologo, who was kind enough to spend time with us in going over the petition which was accompanied with photos that provided proof of the common problems facing all Mezza residents now. He was surprised to see the level of damage and the poor quality of work done to the units. He also shared the same concerns with regards to the pictures of substandard materials used for the units' water and drainage lines. He has assured as that he will call a special hearing the moment their regular sessions starts in two weeks. This is really good news :)

As for the submission of Affidavits, we have to re-schedule this, for latest developments have led us to discover more violations not only from the developer, but also the corporation and the administration office who handles the so-called association concerns.

We will share these new findings with everyone on this Saturday's weekly general meeting.

Thank you for taking time to read this.

ikaw ba yang nasa gitna? nakasubmit na din sa HLURB, di ba. hope HLURB will respond as well.

Yung mismong City Inspector ng Q.C. ang pupunta to inspect as requested by the office of the councilor and the mayor.

this is good. at least civil or sana structural engineer talaga mag declare ng building integrity. hope mag release sila ng documentation ng real status para may basis talaga.

I can't wait for this weekend, to see how the some 200++ kids of Mezza Residences can fit in this children's playground delivered by SMDC

completed amenities na daw ba ito? di ko na matandaan if may sukat at details yung promised playgroun kasi. di kasi dyan napapadpad ang aking anak, nasa grass area siya lagi for the soccer.

nasa 200++ na pala now ang kids playing around at the same time during weekend. dami naman whoah.....

Thanks for all the updates, Im also a unit owner at T2 26th floor, currently occupied by an Iranian tenant, need to call leasing department if there some issues in my unit. I wish I can attend meetings ( I work overseas)
I like the idea of medical mission service, Im a nurse, I can volunteer during my vacation.
GOD Bless your heart for doing such a great job!!!:applause::applause:

you are truly a carebear. tama if ano ang services we can offer, sana magkachance tayong mai share din.

i am into environmental and sustainability works so i dont know how i can help later sa community. may mga kilala akong unit owners na mga engineers dyan, sana makahelp din sila sa mga inspections na gagawin.

i just asked my nanay if may leaks sa unit namin pero wala naman daw though before i reported here na nung bago kaming lipat eh nagka leak sa amin but its from the upper lower namin. di daw naisara yung balcony door at may issue din sa pipe kaya bumaba sa amin. that time. inayos naman nila agad yung unit sa taas then di pa sya ulit naglileak. more than 2 years ago na yung nangyari.

grabe, these are people, design and structural issues. HLURB na talaga to. sana maayos at matuto ang SMDC that they cannot short-change their customers. Every condominium developer has its own shortcomings pero, lahat ata ng 'defects' nagsama-sama.


it's sad to read all these complaints considering na isa ito sa mga unang project ng SM.

hoping for a fast resolution para sa mga unit owners.

on a lighter side, kaw ba yan Kerpogi nasa pic?

ikaw ba yang nasa gitna? nakasubmit na din sa HLURB, di ba. hope HLURB will respond as well.

No :)

The one in the middle is councilor Anthony "Onyx" Crisologo.

Ladies, he is Engr. Onyx Crisologo, a Civil Engineer and QC councilor son of Bingbong

Thank you po Sir Kerpogi sa updates.
lahat po ng umattend nag agree po na hindi natin bayaran yun association dues. Hindi na rin ako magbabayad kung ganun ang pinag usapan, kasi wala rin ako dyan at wala rin nakatira sa unit ko.

ano po yun naging damage ng intensity 6 earthquake dyan sa mezza?

salamat po.

Danny ... nagbigay ka ba ng 6mos advance sa HOA? Ako kasi nung pay off ko unit ko 2 years ago, they required a check for 6mos advance of HOA. Last year nung umuwi ako, na cash na nila. I have not paid a single cent since dahil sa november pa ulit ako uuwi.

Dun sa ulan ... nung andyan ako last year, umuulan and the water did start coming into my unit through the seal sa bedroom window ko, the seal was not properly put on. And my kitchen window does not close properly. Fortunately, the workers were there and they re-sealed my bedroom window
and fixed my kitchen window.

Dun sa mga fully furnished rental units ... how are your tenants? malinis ba sila? do they take care or abuse your appliances/furnitures? I want to rent out my unit as well, but I don't want the tenants to abuse my appliances/furniture ... how much is the average rental for furnished units and how many people max on a 1bedroom unit?

Salamat sa kung sino man ang mag respond!

*TY nga pala ke kerpogi sa informative postings!*

@ kerpogi,thanks a lot for your encouraging effort to update us and be involve in fighting for everyones right,this means a lot to us.Currently,my unit is being rented out and so far no issues raised up yet,still ,hope to share what I can do someday in our community.
@jma030201...thanks for your thoughts of me,sent you a pm,pls check.

Thanks for all the updates, Im also a unit owner at T2 26th floor, currently occupied by an Iranian tenant, need to call leasing department if there some issues in my unit. I wish I can attend meetings ( I work overseas)
I like the idea of medical mission service, Im a nurse, I can volunteer during my vacation.
GOD Bless your heart for doing such a great job!!!:applause::applause:


meron pala leasing department ang mezza? paki pm mo naman kung paano arrangement kung ipapa lease ko yun unit ko.

salamat po.

Danny ... nagbigay ka ba ng 6mos advance sa HOA? Ako kasi nung pay off ko unit ko 2 years ago, they required a check for 6mos advance of HOA. Last year nung umuwi ako, na cash na nila. I have not paid a single cent since dahil sa november pa ulit ako uuwi.

Dun sa ulan ... nung andyan ako last year, umuulan and the water did start coming into my unit through the seal sa bedroom window ko, the seal was not properly put on. And my kitchen window does not close properly. Fortunately, the workers were there and they re-sealed my bedroom window
and fixed my kitchen window.

Dun sa mga fully furnished rental units ... how are your tenants? malinis ba sila? do they take care or abuse your appliances/furnitures? I want to rent out my unit as well, but I don't want the tenants to abuse my appliances/furniture ... how much is the average rental for furnished units and how many people max on a 1bedroom unit?

Salamat sa kung sino man ang mag respond!

*TY nga pala ke kerpogi sa informative postings!*


opo, may 6 months advance HOA at na encashed na po nila. yun collection po ng HOA nag start po from turnover date.

ang nasa interim hoa rules 1br is for 3 pax; 2br for 5pax and 3br for 7pax. that is in terms ng use ng amenities. pero in cases na may bisita ka at saglit lang naman mag stay sa inyo, wla naman silang issue. parang wala nga at all kasi di naman ata sila nagiinspect talaga. i hope maimplement ito ng magiging voted hoa officers. nagpasubmit sila ng ID dati di ba before tayo lumipat at nagpa fill up ng form kung sino ang tenants sa unit.

baphi, good to know na tuloy tuloy lang paupa mo at walang issue til now. swerte mo hehe yung sa structural integrity ako looking forward talaga at hope a qualified inspector can clarify this. ang hirap kasi na mag bloat ito into huge balloon. kakilabot naman isipin "structural damages = cracks" ang tinitirhan ng family ko. actually i asked my civil engineers and architects friends sa manila to take a quick look ng tirahan namin para magka idea ako. pero di ito official move for mezza - pang personal ko lang. the qc engineering dept or a 3rd party company should formally do that. yung kasing sa plumbing eh im sure isolated case kasi like you and some others eh wala namang issue.

Forgot to add today's update pala.

Today August 2, Tuesday; a strong typhoon hit Metro Manila.
As expected a long line of poor residents were lined up at the admin office.
Everyone was panicking because their units were leaking water, some from the windows and some from their walls. I was lucky enough to interview some of these poor residents and found out they belong to the higher floors (25th - 34th) they said this was not the first time. I took this opportunity to actually take snaps and videos of the leaks which I can use as records for the general inspection. Even the poor Iranian tenants were not spared, some were having difficulty trying to ask for assistance, I met one whose floor was already starting to flood because there was no way to stop water from coming in.

I will try my best to see what we can do to help them in the future.

I want to prioritize inspecting the fire exits first. Concerns were raised in last weekend's meetings that there are problems with these also. Issues raised were:

1.) Poor or no ventilation provisions at all.
A danger just in case a fire breaks out, if smoke gets acess to the lower floors, the residents from the upper floors will be trapped or possibly suffocate with all the smoke will go in only one direction....UP, since there is no adequate ventilation for the smoke to escape.
2.) The Auto-lock doors.
I need to organize a sort of drill to see if this is a concern. Some were citing that should the door accidentally close behind them, they cannot get back to assist others or the family that are still in their unit.
3.) The Floors assigned as exits are sometimes locked.
The floors assigned for evacuees exit are closed. (3rd and 4th was closed)
only 5th floor and ground floor were accessible. We need to have monitors who can take responsibility for every floor if in case a fire breaks out.

That's it for tonight... will see if I have more news for tomorrow :)

Hope you can post some pictures caused by typhoon leaking and flooding in the units as well as the CRACKS caused by the recent earthquake.
Thank you

I can't wait for this weekend, to see how the some 200++ kids of Mezza Residences can fit in this children's playground delivered by SMDC

hmm bakit nawala kaya agad yung mga items na nasa picture mo kerpogi? :lol:

http://tinypic.com/r/11gu0j9/7

share ko lang these pics taken kaninang hapon lang sa mezza when my friends came to visit my kids. for info ng mga unit owners, may mga mezza kids soccer team tayo. these kids are legitimate mezza residents po sila.

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4448/mezzaplayground.jpg

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8954/mezzaplayground1.jpg

im not sure lang if lalabas agad ang pics, i forgot it already. anyway, puwede din i click if hindi lumabas automatically.

update naman po. may structural damage ba talaga?

Hope you can post some pictures caused by typhoon leaking and flooding in the units as well as the CRACKS caused by the recent earthquake.
Thank you

kapag may crack sa wall ng unit, sino po sasagot sa repairs? unit owner or smdc?

Hi Everybody, sorry it took me a long time to write back. I usually give updates every few days, but weird as it may sounds, but my IP might have been blocked by the system. I swear to everyone that I am not exagerating :(
In my home where I always post, all my devices cannot log on to Skyscrapercity. I even borrowed a laptop from a friend to try it, to no avail. But, from a different location, luckily in a public hotspot such as where I am now, it is working.... All my devices actually. So I guess, after I post again, somehow this IP will be tagged and blocked again... So might as well write a complete update before I get shut down again :P

I will be uploading Pics of structural damages in the next few days... I might need a zoom lens, some structural damages are on the outside structure of higher floors.

For the moment, let me share the most recent events at Mezza Residences.
For the last few posts, I was telling everyone about our substandard piping and drainage, so here are some pics :)

Here is a picture I took at the 17th floor, while inspecting several floors for structural damages. You will see the floor is wet, because of a leak.
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/Tower217thfloorLeak2.jpg
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/Tower217thfloorLeak.jpg
So taking a closer look I noticed that the main water pipe was busted.
I asked some sources and was told that it was a problem long reported.
So why the constant leak? Well let's see how this is addressed:
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/Tower217thfloorCauseofLeak.jpg
As you guys can see, Masking Tape and a Sponge ought to do the trick....
So I guess if someone's meter reading gets padded again, at least we know who pays for the leak Haha.

Now a few days ago, Typhoon Juaning & Kabayan visited Metro Manila, and I remember posting the long line of residents lining up at the Admin office because their units were leaking.... Well to summarize things, all the answer they got was... "Not all areas of the structure was properly waterproofed."
So who is gonna volunteer to rappel down 20 to 30 stories to apply waterproofing to a "finished" structure? A show of Hands please..... Who?
Sandro who? (Just Kidding)

Here are pics to prove how bad the finishing was
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/Tower2-27thfloorCeilingLeak.jpg
This is an inside part of the structure already yet water is seeping in, and the support cladding is also starting to rust. I guess this is the best solution for now:
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/Tower2-27thfloorBestSolution.jpg
At least it works right?

Now Fast forward -> -> -> August 7, 2011
A Fire broke out again... Tower 2 Again (coincidence I guess)
A maid forgot that she was still cooking something and left the unit.
Luckily I was on my way down with my kids to buy some Pearl Shakes and when I got to the elevator, we were greeted with a putrid smell and some foreigners covering their noses and mouth... So I asked them, what the smell was, they said there was a fire on the 18th floor. WHoa... Really? Then I got surprised when one of our companions in the elevator said "Yes, there was a fire, we could not get the door to open to see if anyone was there so we just went down." So I asked how come there was no alarm? he said "Alarm? these crazy alarms don't work, we pulled the levers but there was no alarm" Really? I said. Hmmm. Then when we got to the lobby a lot of people were already rushing down. But strangely when I checked with people no one still knows a slightest bit about it. So I went to Savemore to buy the shakes and when I came back I saw someone accompany the two foreigners in the elevator, he was telling them that the fire was nothing but a burned meal. So I asked him, how come the alarm did not sound, he answered "the fire was not enough to trigger the alarm" ... I guess what he meant was the detectors right? But when I got down the smoke detector panel was sounding off a warning tone (So it works.) What got me thinking is this....

Just follow my train of thoughts for a few moments...
1.) If a Major Fire does start,
2.) Smoke detectors can work...(but only the lobby will know about it, there is no centralized intercom on the whole developement, so I guess the lobby can go call every 1,736 units to announce the fire?)
3.) Sprinklers don't or won't work. (Its the 2nd fire still no sprinkler activity detected) They always defend that it takes an extreme level of fire to start it. (So how come the windows on the 29th floor fire burst out? tempered glass can withstand high temperatures right? So what kind of "Fire Level" are we talking about here? the kind that burns several floors? the kind that since the Corporation cancelled the fire insurance due to the reasons the building is made up of high grade materials will not burn to the ground? can I get an idea?)
4.) Fire Alarm was pulled down twice. Nothing happened, according to the manual of this device installed is that it should give out a loud siren / and when power is cut down (safety protocol) a strobe will start.
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/Tower218thfloorFireSwitch.jpg http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/Tower27thFloorFireAlarmSirenStrobe.jpg

So if the fire started at night, when everyone is sound asleep.......
The mere thought scares me.
Big Fire. Eveyone Sleeping. Sprinklers don't work. Fire Alarms Don't work.
No water on the firehose cabinet (as what happened to the fire on the 29th floor) Detector works to alert Lobby.... who alerts everyone else?
By the time people find out smoke must have filled up several corridors and when one gets to the fire exit, is greeted with smoke also because the fire exit has no ventilation.

Hmmmm, maybe one reason the alarm did not sound is this:
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/Tower218thFloorFireAlarmSirenStrobe.jpg
This is the actual unit on the 18th floor. Notice the strobe assembly is missing and the circuit board is showing though.. My same thoughts exactly...This unit is broken.
Maybe the Fire is a sign from our Lord to show us clues on what to look for and then report to the proper agency to have everything checked properly, for Our very lives depend on it.

I am not really in the mood anymore for scaring off prospective buyers of this developer anymore. What I want to show here is proof that We all should be very vigilant on what we are purchasing, or putting our hard earned monies into. Not just SMDC, but all developers projects should undergo a strict inspection because things like this can happen to anyone, anywhere, and anytime.

I just hope you so called "Good Guys" stop acting like "Wise Guys" and do your part in making sure the structure you build is safe to live in for people to place their families in.

I guess in two weeks when the city inspectors come, Everything will be revealed. :(

Last note: A news broke out that Vandals from outside have infiltrated the towers and have maliciously put superglue on several doorknobs of a few units. Grabe! I guess if they can't break in might as well make it hard for the owner to get in his own unit.
Where are the promised Security Cameras???????
And since there is still problems with laxes in security (the place is too big for the small number of security guards to handle even at their best efforts)
Be careful, continuous reports still cite unfamiliar / unknown individuals still going in and out of the building, getting out on different floors probably looking for a unit to break into. Just be careful I guess.

For people who actually have units or who have relatives who live here, please join our yahoogroups so we can update everyone. I know for sure that in a few days I will be blocked off again :(

Our yahoo groups name is Mezzahomeowners

Thank you.

I think I will post all the pictures there, so once you are members you can check out more in the days to come :)

Thank you for the update..... Dapat yata ma TULFO na sila...... Pede bang i report iyan kay TULFO!!!!!!

uy nakapagpost ka na din :) di na talaga maopen sa ipad mo?

thanks sa post. naka 2 fire na yang sa tower 2 ha. you did not mentioned if may dumating na firemen at gaano kalaki naging sunog. yang mga fire alarm na yan eh a real issue, why it did not worked. may inspection dpat yan on a regular basis :bash:

yung leak sa 17th floor is sa tower 2 din? i assume may nakatira na sa nearest unit nyan which likely looks 1705 or 1701. may plumber ang cbre di ba na umiikot, bakit di nila yan magawa? when we experienced leak pagkalipat namin and i shared it here and from another post ng unit owner who experienced this also, eh naayos naman agad. so if matagal na pala yan, is it because walang unit owner na masipag magreklamo ba o di kaya ng plumber nila na ayusin....:bash:


yeah, a claim from qc inspector about the structural damages will free the unit owners from worries. :cheers:

at ano naman itong superglue team :ohno:. these guards are known to be so strict kaya nga naiinis mga relatives and friends namin na dumalaw sa amin kasi daming tanong, hinahanapan sla ng ID at tinatawagan pa kami sa unit before they are allowed to come inside. sa tower 2 din ba ito ulit? :ohno: baka inside job yan....:bash:

keep on posting.....:banana:

Thank you for the update..... Dapat yata ma TULFO na sila...... Pede bang i report iyan kay TULFO!!!!!!

or sa imbestigador kaya? all prospective condo buyers should be aware of these things kaya dapat ma ipa media...

:speech::speech::speech:

uy nakapagpost ka na din :) di na talaga maopen sa ipad mo?

thanks sa post. naka 2 fire na yang sa tower 2 ha. you did not mentioned if may dumating na firemen at gaano kalaki naging sunog. yang mga fire alarm na yan eh a real issue, why it did not worked. may inspection dpat yan on a regular basis :bash:

yung leak sa 17th floor is sa tower 2 din? i assume may nakatira na sa nearest unit nyan which likely looks 1705 or 1701. may plumber ang cbre di ba na umiikot, bakit di nila yan magawa? when we experienced leak pagkalipat namin and i shared it here and from another post ng unit owner who experienced this also, eh naayos naman agad. so if matagal na pala yan, is it because walang unit owner na masipag magreklamo ba o di kaya ng plumber nila na ayusin....:bash:

yeah, a claim from qc inspector about the structural damages will free the unit owners from worries. :cheers:

at ano naman itong superglue team :ohno:. these guards are known to be so strict kaya nga naiinis mga relatives and friends namin na dumalaw sa amin kasi daming tanong, hinahanapan sla ng ID at tinatawagan pa kami sa unit before they are allowed to come inside. sa tower 2 din ba ito ulit? :ohno: baka inside job yan....:bash:

keep on posting.....:banana:


My IP has been intentionally blocked from access to this forum and site :(
Its weird that all my devices (Ipad, Iphone, Macbook, PC Desktop) all cannot access this informative site. But just take a few floors down and use the common WIFI access on the 5th floor and ..Surprise! I can post again :)
(Until they block it off again)

As an update, Yesterday in a major daily, (Philippine Daily Inquirer) SMDC got a 2-page Ad stating that all legal sanctions imposed on their "BLUE RESIDENCES" project have all been lifted. Citing different complaints were all overturned in their favor, and thus they are once again cleared to continue what they are building. So that's a victory of a Giant over little communities I guess.

Then after skipping several pages (p.21 I think) I saw a whole page Ad, showing a Petition from Ateneo, Miriam and some neighboring villages, questioning the sudden decisions in favor of the big developer even after citing violations. They I think will hold a Major Rally on Friday, Aug. 12 to form an act of protest.

Hmmmm. I think we should have a talk with these people, for I think their complaints are based on violations done even if the project has just started. I think they would enjoy hearing the horror stories of violations committed AFTER the project is completed.

So there really is no escape from this Big Developer then.
I just hope someone from the right side of the Law will take a closer look at what is really going on.

As for the leak, the Masking Tape- Sponge solution was the solution I guess.
I fear they do not have individual gate valves per floor to stop the source, enough to replace the busted pipes.

As for the security, its a see-saw battle. I experience People scolding security on why they still need to have their guests registered. So If I was security, its a Damn if I do, and a Damn if I don't situation.

People should understand that these measures are meant to strengthen the Security and not an act of being a judge of character. I guess if the ID system would be implemented soon, this will make things easier.
Sorry ha people, please lang... No V.I.P. treatements. pantay pantay lang tayo lahat. Even if you are rich, if may nakapasok na masamang elemento at pinatay ka, tapos na buhay mo.

As for the clearance of the inspector, what happens if may nahanap nga na problem? are we all supposed to move out? Will the developer pay for our stay in a different place? (like what airlines do, when a flight is cancelled) I really do not have an idea.

Well that's it for now :)

Oh one last thing, Committees of different towers were successfully formed last week during the general meeting :)
I will also upload another promised amenity :)

Ciao!

uy nakapagpost ka na din :) di na talaga maopen sa ipad mo?

thanks sa post. naka 2 fire na yang sa tower 2 ha. you did not mentioned if may dumating na firemen at gaano kalaki naging sunog. yang mga fire alarm na yan eh a real issue, why it did not worked. may inspection dpat yan on a regular basis :bash:

yung leak sa 17th floor is sa tower 2 din? i assume may nakatira na sa nearest unit nyan which likely looks 1705 or 1701. may plumber ang cbre di ba na umiikot, bakit di nila yan magawa? when we experienced leak pagkalipat namin and i shared it here and from another post ng unit owner who experienced this also, eh naayos naman agad. so if matagal na pala yan, is it because walang unit owner na masipag magreklamo ba o di kaya ng plumber nila na ayusin....:bash:

yeah, a claim from qc inspector about the structural damages will free the unit owners from worries. :cheers:

at ano naman itong superglue team :ohno:. these guards are known to be so strict kaya nga naiinis mga relatives and friends namin na dumalaw sa amin kasi daming tanong, hinahanapan sla ng ID at tinatawagan pa kami sa unit before they are allowed to come inside. sa tower 2 din ba ito ulit? :ohno: baka inside job yan....:bash:

keep on posting.....:banana:

Grabe daming issues dyan sa MEZZA. Hope naayos yang mga problema. Safety is very important considering na mahal na investments sa mga units. Plus yung monthly maintainance dues.

I guess yung strict checking by the guards for visitors is a must for the safely of all unit owners!

hmm... madaming mas grabe ang post against developers pero di naman naba block :ohno: so di naman siguro...if indeed true, grabe!

sa leak, well engineers can correct me but based from pics, its isolated. dapat ayusin ang tubo in that side as solution. hirap naman to say its for all towers and all floors.

sa security, i know them as strict so sana imaintain na lang nila yun at wag magpa intimidate sa mga ibang unit owners who acts as if langgam ang mga security staff ng mezza...dapat talaga iimplement na yang ID system. im sure they know the real unit owners so yung new face talaga eh dapat lang higpitan. i know guards are liable sa mga nangyayari na related sa security ng building. kwento ng father ko dati may nagreklamo sa admin na nagasgasan daw ang car ng nagreklamo sa parking lot. well, yan ang disavantage ng walang cctv to see sino nag gasgas if dun nga nagasgas kaya pinagbayad ang guard. after that, naging alert na din ang guard na pag may mag park they check the car para di sila masisi later. that's why everytime we go out and will park, may guard na umiikot sa car namin.

dun sa magiging result ng inspection, mmm.....if may major structural defects nga ang all towers, more or less may mararamdaman naman na signs ang mga unit owners - in my opinion. di naman siguro yan babagsak bigla hehe :nuts: to be honest yan "declaration" kasi na structural defects is not a joke. it can create BIG FEAR sa iba. sabi nga ng isang civil engineer na friend ko crack/s is not equivalent sa structural defects. kailangan talagang i assess ito ng isang maalam na tao. im sure they have better description about it pero of course its not something na need din pabayaan. umuuga na ba ang tower 2, kerpogi? :ohno:

so as recently posted by another mezza owner/tenant, magkaka survey pala ng suggestions regarding house regulations and there will be a general assembly to held on August 20th starting from 9am to 12 pm. so may mga nangyayari na pala little by little sa BBQ area, Gym Area daw may equipment delivered na. hope free lang itong free unlike in Sophia na amenities daw pero may byad. heard ko dati magkaka gym na free at gym na paid? anyway.....lets see ano mangyayari......

yung hlurb pala, any news?

i guess, SMDC tends to be flashy with things that can be seen outrightly but scrimps on those that are hidden. ang mga leaks sa tubo is bad.

i guess, SMDC tends to be flashy with things that can be seen outrightly but scrimps on those that are hidden. ang mga leaks sa tubo is bad.

agree! :bash: that pic shows outside the unit kasi water meter sya. at looks like walang unit owner or tenant pa ba, kerpogi? i think that should be a "simple" thing na dapat naaayos agad. nakapag lagay ng sponge at napupunasan ang floor pero maayos? minus points sa CBRE!

to all unit owners, may yahoo groups po para sa mezza unit owners/tenants at facebook account! you can see other updates dun...........

This inaction from smdc and the cases filed in hlurb is really a big dissappointments for us unit owners especially for ofws like me. I wonder who else is going to buy those bunch of residences they currently building if their first condo is currently in disarray. Its been almost 3 years now and their promised amenities and things to be fixed is just a promise specially making sure it is a secured place. No kudos no cbre as they seems to have no knowledge at all what an admin should be.

hmm... madaming mas grabe ang post against developers pero di naman naba block :ohno: so di naman siguro...if indeed true, grabe!

sa leak, well engineers can correct me but based from pics, its isolated. dapat ayusin ang tubo in that side as solution. hirap naman to say its for all towers and all floors.

sa security, i know them as strict so sana imaintain na lang nila yun at wag magpa intimidate sa mga ibang unit owners who acts as if langgam ang mga security staff ng mezza...dapat talaga iimplement na yang ID system. im sure they know the real unit owners so yung new face talaga eh dapat lang higpitan. i know guards are liable sa mga nangyayari na related sa security ng building. kwento ng father ko dati may nagreklamo sa admin na nagasgasan daw ang car ng nagreklamo sa parking lot. well, yan ang disavantage ng walang cctv to see sino nag gasgas if dun nga nagasgas kaya pinagbayad ang guard. after that, naging alert na din ang guard na pag may mag park they check the car para di sila masisi later. that's why everytime we go out and will park, may guard na umiikot sa car namin.

dun sa magiging result ng inspection, mmm.....if may major structural defects nga ang all towers, more or less may mararamdaman naman na signs ang mga unit owners - in my opinion. di naman siguro yan babagsak bigla hehe :nuts: to be honest yan "declaration" kasi na structural defects is not a joke. it can create BIG FEAR sa iba. sabi nga ng isang civil engineer na friend ko crack/s is not equivalent sa structural defects. kailangan talagang i assess ito ng isang maalam na tao. im sure they have better description about it pero of course its not something na need din pabayaan. umuuga na ba ang tower 2, kerpogi? :ohno:

so as recently posted by another mezza owner/tenant, magkaka survey pala ng suggestions regarding house regulations and there will be a general assembly to held on August 20th starting from 9am to 12 pm. so may mga nangyayari na pala little by little sa BBQ area, Gym Area daw may equipment delivered na. hope free lang itong free unlike in Sophia na amenities daw pero may byad. heard ko dati magkaka gym na free at gym na paid? anyway.....lets see ano mangyayari......

yung hlurb pala, any news?

Ayaw pa kasi aminin na ayaw nila magkaroon ng totoong HomeOwners Association. Baka mabuksan yung book of accounts at madiskubre ang lahat na itinatago Hehe.

Kung survey lang, pa distribute lang nila sa security ok na hehe.

And House Regulations....Which House? SMDC's House?
No matter what rules you may set or change, the Majority (SMDC, since 80% of titles still in their name, while all the transfer Tax funds collected are currently invested elsewhere) can amend and change this anytime since majority of members are under their name.

Correct me if I'm wrong, even OFWs who invested, OK lang ba with you guys that you invested money on a property, pero 3 years after na, nasa pangalan pa rin ng developer, on the premise na may Internal Problem sila...
(Kasalanan ba natin na ginamit nila yung pera ng pag transfer sa ibang bagay?)

If they cannot transfer it yet, Balik nalang muna yung funds with interest, It should have earned interest if it wasn't touched....Wait, I guess it could have earned more interest if they did touch it Hmmmmm.

For me, SMDC together with CBRE should fix the priorities first.
1. Deliver all Titles ASAP.
2. Finish all promised amenities.
3. Fix all Unit Damages due to substandard materials.
4. Turn over properly to REAL Homeowners Association
Then maybe after these, take a survey with regards to house rules.

This inaction from smdc and the cases filed in hlurb is really a big dissappointments for us unit owners especially for ofws like me. I wonder who else is going to buy those bunch of residences they currently building if their first condo is currently in disarray. Its been almost 3 years now and their promised amenities and things to be fixed is just a promise specially making sure it is a secured place. No kudos no cbre as they seems to have no knowledge at all what an admin should be.

Totally Agree with you :)

Join our yahoogroups to get updates also :)
mezzahomeowners

1. Deliver all Titles ASAP.
Developer is supposed to deliver the title to fully paid buyers within six months from full payment. I’m curious what’s HLURB’s reaction to SMDC’s inability to comply with this ruling? I suspect SMDC is purposely delaying the delivery until they are ready to do so, that way majority vote doesn’t tilt against their favour at the early stages, pero three years na ba kamo? Wow naman.

3. Fix all Unit Damages due to substandard materials.
Yes! And speaking of deficiencies in the common areas, the cost for repairing any damages left by developer will shift to the unit owners as a whole once the developer has done their “final turnover date” of completion for common areas and the warranty period has lapsed. That is why it benefits SMDC to delay and delay, hoping existing residents are complacent enough and not rattle the cages, so to speak.

4. Turn over properly to REAL Homeowners Association.
Take note of this:
The “final turnover date” has to be authorized by HLURB pursuant to PD 1216. If I were you, I’ll keep on updating HLURB about existing deficiencies to common areas so HLURB will not approve the “final turnover date” until SMDC complies with resolving all deficiencies.

Ayaw pa kasi aminin na ayaw nila magkaroon ng totoong HomeOwners Association. Baka mabuksan yung book of accounts at madiskubre ang lahat na itinatago Hehe.
You got it right. It’s good this early, you get the picture of what is really happening. Fact of the matter is, the Property Management company placed there by SMDC will not work against the interest of SMDC, even if it will benefit the home owners. It’s best that you have a plan of your own on how you can reverse the situation. Here is what I suggest.

1. Wait for the developer to do the “final turnover”. By then, they no longer have majority vote.

2. Submit a resolution to strike out the provision in the Corporation’s Master Deed that gives the developer the sole discretion to name the property management company for the next 20 years or so. (am not sure if it’s 20 years with SMDC, maybe it’s more.... he he he). There is a provision in the ACT that allows you to make Amendments to the Master deed providing you get simple majority vote, or maybe two thirds vote. Not sure, but you can check your by-laws.

3. Having done #2, then the Condominium Corporation will have the discretion of retaining existing property management company or not. But at least you will now have the upper hand and in a position to dictate terms & compliance, and that’s the way it should be since it’s the HOA that pays them.

Developer is supposed to deliver the title to fully paid buyers within six months from full payment. I’m curious what’s HLURB’s reaction to SMDC’s inability to comply with this ruling? I suspect SMDC is purposely delaying the delivery until they are ready to do so, that way majority vote doesn’t tilt against their favour at the early stages, pero three years na ba kamo? Wow naman.

I have been fully paid for almost 3 years, but I dont have the title for my condo. Meron na bang nakakuha ng title? I am not there kasi most of the time. Medyo expensive na nga umuwi every year lalo na at maliit na lang ang exchange rate ng dollar.

Can someone advise me if there is something I can do this November when we go and visit the Phils? Sana meron meeting at that time. 2 weeks lang ang bisita namin kasi. Makukuha ko na kaya yung title ko at that time?

Salamat sa sasagot.

Baphi, my dear ... sayang di tayo magkikita sa pag uwi ko, kasama ko pa naman ang aking unico ijo, first time nya umuwi. Take care my dear and Lord bless you always.

hi jma, uwi din ako sa oct/nov ng mga 10 days. i posted here before na nag follow up ako recently ng title thru email. they said they are expecting that my tax declaration will be released this August. Irelease daw title paglabas ng tax declaration? I am not familiar how long it should really take at bakit napakatagal naman but when asked my friend na may condo sa Avida San Lazaro na Kuwait based, more than 2yrs nya nakuha yung sa kanila. i suggest i follow-up mo na now before ka umuwi.

up also sa ano bang nangyari sa HLURB?

siguro nga better wag na muna sila magpa vote ng real HOA until di pa nila nadedeliver yung remaining amenities. of course may disadvantages on this pero di naman pwedeng mag linger pa ito. Since May/June 2009 pa nagkaroon ng first group of tenants sa Tower 1 and 2 and last part of 2009 naman sa Tower 3 and 4. Mahabang time na din yun.........

Developer is supposed to deliver the title to fully paid buyers within six months from full payment. I’m curious what’s HLURB’s reaction to SMDC’s inability to comply with this ruling? I suspect SMDC is purposely delaying the delivery until they are ready to do so, that way majority vote doesn’t tilt against their favour at the early stages, pero three years na ba kamo? Wow naman.


Yes! And speaking of deficiencies in the common areas, the cost for repairing any damages left by developer will shift to the unit owners as a whole once the developer has done their “final turnover date” of completion for common areas and the warranty period has lapsed. That is why it benefits SMDC to delay and delay, hoping existing residents are complacent enough and not rattle the cages, so to speak.


Take note of this:
The “final turnover date” has to be authorized by HLURB pursuant to PD 1216. If I were you, I’ll keep on updating HLURB about existing deficiencies to common areas so HLURB will not approve the “final turnover date” until SMDC complies with resolving all deficiencies.


You got it right. It’s good this early, you get the picture of what is really happening. Fact of the matter is, the Property Management company placed there by SMDC will not work against the interest of SMDC, even if it will benefit the home owners. It’s best that you have a plan of your own on how you can reverse the situation. Here is what I suggest.

1. Wait for the developer to do the “final turnover”. By then, they no longer have majority vote.

2. Submit a resolution to strike out the provision in the Corporation’s Master Deed that gives the developer the sole discretion to name the property management company for the next 20 years or so. (am not sure if it’s 20 years with SMDC, maybe it’s more.... he he he). There is a provision in the ACT that allows you to make Amendments to the Master deed providing you get simple majority vote, or maybe two thirds vote. Not sure, but you can check your by-laws.

3. Having done #2, then the Condominium Corporation will have the discretion of retaining existing property management company or not. But at least you will now have the upper hand and in a position to dictate terms & compliance, and that’s the way it should be since it’s the HOA that pays them.

My sincerest Thanks for all your valuable inputs :) i will research on your pointers :) thank you so much for the help.

Here are the provisions (two) in the ACT I alluded to previously pertaining to amending certain provisions in the Master Deed:

(1) The Condominium ACT, Republic ACT No. 4726, Section 4-(H):
The enabling or master deed may be amended or revoked upon registration of an instrument executed by the registered owner or owners of the property and consented to by all registered holders of any lien or encumbrance on the land or building or portion thereof. The term “registered owner” shall include the registered owners of condominiums in the project. Until registration of a revocation, the provisions of this Act shall continue to apply to such property.

(2) The Condominium ACT, Republic ACT No. 4726, Section 9-(b):
The manner and procedure for amending such restrictions: Provided, That the vote of not less than a majority in interest of the owners is obtained.

Opinion: the above two provisions in the ACT clearly provides an amending formula in modifying the Master Deed. It only requires a simple majority vote of members of the Condominium Corporation, and registering the change (registration of instrument) in the Land Title’s Office. You will have to bide your time till after the “final date of turnover” has taken place, when majority vote is no longer owned or controlled by the Developer, after the formation of a real HOA, and election of officers coming from the ranks of unit owners has taken place.

Take note of a similar restriction in your Master Deed that goes something like this. This is what appears in mine from Megaworld. I am sure you have something similar with SMDC.

Master Deed: Section 3. Maintenance, Repairs and Alterations. (A.) Designation of Developer as Property Manager. The Developer is hereby designated as the Property Manager of the Project for a period of 25 consecutive years. In this connection, the Developer may designate any of its subsidiaries, associates and/or affiliates to act as Property Manager for the Project.

Opinion: It is this type of restriction that handcuffs future unit owners and binds them with an existing Property Management Company put in place by the Developer. With a near perpetual assurance of being designated as your Property Manager, regardless of performance, service, and track record, is that really the best way in motivating a call to duty? Future officers of the Condominium Corporation coming from the ranks of HOA should not be handcuff with this kind of restriction placed in the Master Deed, and should have a free hand in maintaining or replacing them, based on the interest of the majority of the homeowners.

Also, go to: http://hlurb.gov.ph/downloadable-forms/
And click on the link: Application for Ammendment of Master Deed
http://hlurb.gov.ph/uploads/DONWLOADABLE-FORMS/ApplicationAmendmentMasterDeed.pdf

Kerpogi, ayaw ko na sanang palakihin pa ang manga problema mo tungkol sa MEZZA, kaso baka meron kayong ganitong salita sa Deed of Restriction ninyo.

Roofdecks and Unassigned Areas.
The DECLARANT shall retain the ownership over the roofdecks of the buildings / towers in the Project, including the airspace above it. It is also understood herein that the DECLARANT shall retain ownership to all unassigned portions of the available and unutilized common areas of the Project. By virtue of its ownership over the roofdecks and all unassigned areas, the DECLARANT shall have sole, exclusive, and full aurthority and discretion over the use, purpose, maintenance, and management of the same. Further, the DECLARANT reserves the right to build or construct improvements on these areas, such as but not limited to, storage rooms and communication towers/antennas.

If you have a similar restriction, you may be interested in back reading discussions at Light Thread way back last December.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1231969&page=8 (post #150, and maybe previous to this post to get a background of what was being discussed)

Grabe talaga SMDC. Will scan copies of the Master Deed being forced upon the poor buyers here, as reference :)

Legal ba na only after paying in Full, can you have access to the secret document known as the "master deed?"

Well anyway, as promised, more updates on Mezza Structure :banana:

Here is a short clip of the famous "Mystery Bubble Show" that several units of Tower 2 (again?) experience everyday. Take not also the quality of plumbing works on "Finished" and "Delivered" Units :nuts:

http://s847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/?action=view&current=IMG_1679.mp4

...And then here are some boggling facts to think about, If you had the resources to actually to start a pending amenity such as a gym with Glass Windows and Doors because a formal complaint has been filed:

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/photo10.jpg

Then why can't you simply repair a damaged glass door on a common area that has been complained about and reported for almost 3 months now? Does it take another formal complaint for it to be taken care of?

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/photo9.jpg

This is the entrance access to the common lobby at the 5th floor, on Tower 2 (again?) This is the cause of the widespread of Mosquitoes in the area, (Dengue anyone?) If someone will deny this, I challenge that person to wear shorts and stay put in the sofas for a good ten minutes without actually trying to whisk away a pesky mosquito or to scratch a bite, this I dare.

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/photo2.jpg

I know for a fact that since SMDC fooled the HLURB in doing a false Final Turnover, they will force the repair on the account of the HOA HomeOwners Association, and since that is a long time away, this glass door will never be repaired. Including the A/C units that get damaged due to the non stop run of the compressors because the cool air is just going out of the door freely.
And I thought SM was so serious with their Earth Day campaign on energy conservation. Eh dito palang Blind eye na. (ang masaya si Meralco, at yung nag service ng A/C units) Ever wondered how long na "Dead" 3 of the 8 A/C units sa 5th floor lobby.

As for Common Areas, how about this damage on the ceiling on the infamous "M Bar"

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/photo3.jpg

Di pa nga kumpleto yung ilaw (1 out of 5 installed) eh bumibigay na ang bubong. Repairing this is a near impossible task... Why? Hehe, because the supposed to be common area "Viewing Deck" was sold as part of a Unit. So try to convince that unit owner to allow the contractors to destroy his Veranda to get access to fix the dying ceiling haha. This particular perk was not even offered on the sales plan, so special people lang ba pwede kumuha nito? Paging Mr. Ramil Lombos, the other side is still in your name hehe.

And now we move on to the MORE serious part. (lahat naman ito serious...MORE lang ito) These are pictures of the Elevator Access sa Tower 3 (hindi na tower 2 sa wakas :lol:) I will let the pictures speak for themselves and get reactions nalang :)

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/photo4.jpg
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/photo5.jpg
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/photo6.jpg
http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/photo8.jpg

Gaps are getting bigger :bash:

I really do not know how SMDC can allow these things :ohno:

I hope these things get to their Big Boss.
I know their people know good ways to hide these facts from the Big Boss himself, but I just hope someone with a good conscience will make him realize that these are people also and not collateral damage :ohno:

Thanks.

If you want to see the viewing deck turned veranda let me know so I can post pics, then you judge whether it was originally a common area rather than a special unit arrangement. :banana:

Sorry about the missing bubble show, di pala pwede tag ng video.....

http://s847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/?action=view&current=IMG_1679.mp4

try the link above, hope it works :)

Sorry about the missing bubble show, di pala pwede tag ng video.....

http://s847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/?action=view&current=IMG_1679.mp4

try the link above, hope it works :)

sayang di ko mapanood link as im just using iphone now. if di namimaintain ng maayos mga basic na yan meaning palpak cbre or wala silang nakukuhang support sa smdc to do the necessary repairs. hope yung mabo vote na hoa officers later will be passionate na maayos ang mezza. more of actions at can deal with all if these with grace hehe

so yan strucrtural damage aka cracks eh sa tower 3 lang ba? or in that location lang ba o madami pang iba? hope you can post more pics. looking forward to see also engineers report ng qc city hall rep.

Sorry about the missing bubble show, di pala pwede tag ng video.....

http://s847.photobucket.com/albums/ab35/kerpogi/?action=view&current=IMG_1679.mp4

try the link above, hope it works :)

napanood ko na ang video. may clarification lang ako where it was taken? kasi correct me if im wrong, this is a drying area in a room. i saw these kind of area sa 1br units in tower 1 ni baphi and sa unit ng classmate ng anak ko then 2 friends in tower 2 and in our room as well. its just that i dont use this drying area kasi we have balcony and we can dry clothes near the door balcony. mabilis lang kami makapagpatuyo ng labahin sa unit namin kasi aside from almost dried na from washing machine ang sampay namin, we also have ventilation from the balcony.

obviously di yan magkaka bubbles if walang mixture of water and soap either within the same place or coming from above. from the video, may tumutulo pang water hence its most likely galing sya sa higher floors. mukhang nasa lower floors ito to have such accumulation of bubbles. i also know may pipe sa area na yan para sa mga tulo ng sinampay pero hindi itong simple tulo lang from a newly washed clothes na na drier, it looks di pa nabanlawang mabuti ang nilabhan :bash:

good di naman sya naexperience ng family ko pero sad to know this happens sa iba. another house rules na di nasusunod....:ohno:

baphi sa unit mo ba nagka bubbles show :nuts:

baphi sa unit mo ba nagka bubbles show :nuts:[/QUOTE]

Hi ning,di ko alam if I am fortunate,kasi as of this moment maayos yung unit according to my brother and no problems like these whatsoever inside/outside the unit.Karerenew lang ng tenant ko this august for a year from 3 months contract dahil nagustuhan nga yung place.She even paid her HOA dues till dec.
But of course the unfinished amenities/common areas` problems are different stories na sana`y maayos agad pati na ang unit ni kerpogi.
And I appreciate the vigilance of our concerned unitowners in making our place better.

And sa mga 1br unit like mine,mostly walang washing mashine kasi,drying area lang talaga (for innerwear or small stuffs))and like my tenants,dry cleaning ang mga clothes nya which is sa baba lang naman.

Hi jma my sis,enjoy ur vacation,Sayang di ko makikita your most talented son.God bless and enjoy the trip.

...Legal ba na only after paying in Full, can you have access to the secret document known as the "master deed?"...

You should be able to ask a copy of the Master Deed, and your agent should be able to provide a copy for you, even while a buyer is still at the stage of considering to purchase a unit and hasn't put up the down payment yet. I can’t see why not when it is a public document that anyone can obtain a copy at HLURB for a fee (and I suspect at the Land Title’s office as well because all condo property titles will have an annotation of the existence of a Master Deed).

All CTBS (contract to buy and sell) has the following wordings:

“Whereas, Buyer has examined the proposed plan and specifications of the Project and desires to purchase certain condominium unit/s and/or parking slots in the Project...”

Therefore, all you have to do is to say to your Sales Agent, that in order for you to comply with the examination of the proposed plan & specifications of the project, you need to get a copy and examine the Master Deed. Note that the Master Deed is the Master Plan of the Project and the Condominium Corporation was established pursuant to the Master Deed.

Hi everyone. With all this talk about SMDC's failure to deliver, I'm not so sure that it's a good time to post this but anyway --

My 2BR unit (no balcony) in tower 2 (6/F) is for URGENT resale. It's unoccupied and unfurnished. The only reason it's for resale is because our family has run out of funds for our monthly payments (unexpected problems and medical issues and the like). Laki ng payments kasi in-house financing e.
Was originally selling for profit but now we really, really just need the funds to pay off the balance. Please PM me if interested.

Thanks.

You should be able to ask a copy of the Master Deed, and your agent should be able to provide a copy for you, even while a buyer is still at the stage of considering to purchase a unit and hasn't put up the down payment yet. I can’t see why not when it is a public document that anyone can obtain a copy at HLURB for a fee (and I suspect at the Land Title’s office as well because all condo property titles will have an annotation of the existence of a Master Deed).

All CTBS (contract to buy and sell) has the following wordings:

“Whereas, Buyer has examined the proposed plan and specifications of the Project and desires to purchase certain condominium unit/s and/or parking slots in the Project...”

Therefore, all you have to do is to say to your Sales Agent, that in order for you to comply with the examination of the proposed plan & specifications of the project, you need to get a copy and examine the Master Deed. Note that the Master Deed is the Master Plan of the Project and the Condominium Corporation was established pursuant to the Master Deed.

Found my old Contract to sell :)
It has a checklist that says it has a Master Deed included, But there was none. and this was a notarized document.

So is there a penalty for this? its a requirment for a CTS right?

Found my old Contract to sell :)
It has a checklist that says it has a Master Deed included, But there was none. and this was a notarized document.

So is there a penalty for this? its a requirment for a CTS right?

...So is there a penalty for this?

All you have to do is to contact the Seller’s representative and point out the following facts:

“You know what, this CTS is a notarized document, and it says I was supposed to get a copy of the Master Deed, but I sure didn’t get one.”

If that person is a lawyer or one who knows the consequence of “perjury”, he/she will claim an unintentional lapsed, and will try to immediately extricate himself/herself or beg for redemption by providing you a copy of the Master Deed PDQ (pretty dam quick). He he he.

The CTS alludes to the existence of the Master Deed. In my CTS from Megaworld, it has the following statement:

“Whereas, Buyer has examined the proposed plans and specifications of the Project and desires to purchase certain condominium unit...”

You see, the Master Deed wasn’t voluntarily given to me in the beginning. I had to ask for it before it was provided. Upon examining the CTS, I mentioned to the “Seller” that in order for me to comply with the above statement of the CTS, I need a copy of the Master Deed. So I was provided PDQ. He he he.

I don’t know why it is common practice in the Philippines not to provide the Master Deed right away. It seems like a buyer has to pry for it first. I thought it should be automatically given. I attribute it to lack of language in the ACT. The Condominium ACT of the Philippines is only about 3 pages long, compared that with 30+ pages in other countries, so the ACT is due for a change.

All you have to do is to contact the Seller’s representative and point out the following facts:

“You know what, this CTS is a notarized document, and it says I was supposed to get a copy of the Master Deed, but I sure didn’t get one.”

If that person is a lawyer or one who knows the consequence of “perjury”, he/she will claim an unintentional lapsed, and will try to immediately extricate himself/herself or beg for redemption by providing you a copy of the Master Deed PDQ (pretty dam quick). He he he.

The CTS alludes to the existence of the Master Deed. In my CTS from Megaworld, it has the following statement:

“Whereas, Buyer has examined the proposed plans and specifications of the Project and desires to purchase certain condominium unit...”

You see, the Master Deed wasn’t voluntarily given to me in the beginning. I had to ask for it before it was provided. Upon examining the CTS, I mentioned to the “Seller” that in order for me to comply with the above statement of the CTS, I need a copy of the Master Deed. So I was provided PDQ. He he he.

I don’t know why it is common practice in the Philippines not to provide the Master Deed right away. It seems like a buyer has to pry for it first. I thought it should be automatically given. I attribute it to lack of language in the ACT. The Condominium ACT of the Philippines is only about 3 pages long, compared that with 30+ pages in other countries, so the ACT is due for a change.

But here's the thing :)
I kinda figured out why the Master Deed was intentionally left out :)
even if it is a Checklist, even if it was promised to follow (after 3 years!) because it only contains rules and regulations daw (so no worries daw...NOT!)

The real reason on why the Master Deed was intentionally not presented is because it had a very important provision that intends to shortchange would be buyers without even realizing it.

In the Condominium Act it states that pillars and columns are not part of a unit OTHERWISE if stated in the Master Deed. While in the Master Deed it states that the unit starts from the horizontal edge of the wall / window to the other end of the unit. So.... in short, if the Master Deed was presented with the Contract to Sell, we would question the provision and not agree to it.

By not presenting the Master Deed, they get away with making the buyer pay for several square meters more than what the buyer should really be paying for. Just imagine, I paid for 6 sq. meters. of the Developer's columns, and their Corporation gets 6 sq. meters more worth of association dues uncontested.

SMDC ....wise guys nga talaga.
Very soon their rating will be upgraded to BAD GUYS.

At least I have proof that they intentionally did this on purpose and will challenge this in my affidavit next week with the HLURB.

Wish me luck! :)

But here's the thing :)
I kinda figured out why the Master Deed was intentionally left out :)
even if it is a Checklist, even if it was promised to follow (after 3 years!) because it only contains rules and regulations daw (so no worries daw...NOT!)

The real reason on why the Master Deed was intentionally not presented is because it had a very important provision that intends to shortchange would be buyers without even realizing it.

In the Condominium Act it states that pillars and columns are not part of a unit OTHERWISE if stated in the Master Deed. While in the Master Deed it states that the unit starts from the horizontal edge of the wall / window to the other end of the unit. So.... in short, if the Master Deed was presented with the Contract to Sell, we would question the provision and not agree to it.

By not presenting the Master Deed, they get away with making the buyer pay for several square meters more than what the buyer should really be paying for. Just imagine, I paid for 6 sq. meters. of the Developer's columns, and their Corporation gets 6 sq. meters more worth of association dues uncontested.

SMDC ....wise guys nga talaga.
Very soon their rating will be upgraded to BAD GUYS.

At least I have proof that they intentionally did this on purpose and will challenge this in my affidavit next week with the HLURB.

Wish me luck! :)

I see where you are heading with this, but allow me to explain based on my limited understanding of “condominiums”.

The periphery of your unit mentioned in the Master Deed (the unit starts from the horizontal edge of the wall / window to the other end of the unit) is for purposes of defining the space within that boundary where you have “exclusive use”. The “square footage” of your unit is only an approximation. The price is for the unit. No doubt the space the pillars and columns occupy diminishes your area of “exclusive use”; nevertheless you weren’t quoted a “per square footage” price, but rather a price for the unit. Salespeople and buyers alike have a penchant for using the term “per square footage” but that is only for illustration purposes. You will note however that pricing for units is never quoted in “per square footage price” in any of the documents (CTS & Master Deed).

I see where you are heading with this, but allow me to explain based on my limited understanding of “condominiums”.

The periphery of your unit mentioned in the Master Deed (the unit starts from the horizontal edge of the wall / window to the other end of the unit) is for purposes of defining the space within that boundary where you have “exclusive use”. The “square footage” of your unit is only an approximation. The price is for the unit. No doubt the space the pillars and columns occupy diminishes your area of “exclusive use”; nevertheless you weren’t quoted a “per square footage” price, but rather a price for the unit. Salespeople and buyers alike have a penchant for using the term “per square footage” but that is only for illustration purposes. You will note however that pricing for units is never quoted in “per square footage price” in any of the documents (CTS & Master Deed).


@tchitz
you are both right and wrong. yes it is not quoted "per square footage (meter) price" but it is also stated in the contract how many square footage (meter) your unit is. so its only natural that you'd expect the said dimension.

there has been a long debate on how the condo units should be measured. imo developers should just stick to measuring what is the liveable/usable area rather than the other. quoting the other tend to mislead condo buyers.

Here is how it was described in my CTS from Megaworld:

APPROXIMATE FLOOR AREA: 100.00 square meters

How was it described in yours?

Insofar as how it was described in my specific CTS from Megaworld, my previous statement was accurate. If they didn’t use the word “approximate”, I will have caused for complaint should I get less than what was stated. As it is, when dealing with Property Description, precise terms and correct language is crucial. The Courts tend to favour the inviolability of a written contract over what was “said”. There is a saying that goes, “if it’s not written, it doesn’t exist”. The statement is so true when dealing with Contractual Dispute.

Addendum: In addition, the following statement was also mentioned in my CTS.

"Subject Property is being sold at the lump sum purchase price hereunder stipulated. Thus, any discrepancy between the area of the property actually delivered and the area indicated in the Contract or in Seller’s brochures and/or price list for the Project shall not serve to increase or decrease the lump sum purchase price hereinafter stipulated. The purchase price is established principally on a per unit basis and not on the basis of unit measurement of dimension."

Contractual Language is meant to be written with precision, if done correctly. Otherwise ambiguity can set in and may haunt contractual parties in the future.

Here is how it was described in my CTS from Megaworld:

APPROXIMATE FLOOR AREA: 100.00 square meters

How was it described in yours?

Insofar as how it was described in my specific CTS from Megaworld, my previous statement was accurate. If they didn’t use the word “approximate”, I will have caused for complaint should I get less than what was stated. As it is, when dealing with Property Description, precise terms and correct language is crucial. The Courts tend to favour the inviolability of a written contract over what was “said”. There is a saying that goes, “if it’s not written, it doesn’t exist”. The statement is so true when dealing with Contractual Dispute.

Addendum: In addition, the following statement was also mentioned in my CTS.

"Subject Property is being sold at the lump sum purchase price hereunder stipulated. Thus, any discrepancy between the area of the property actually delivered and the area indicated in the Contract or in Seller’s brochures and/or price list for the Project shall not serve to increase or decrease the lump sum purchase price hereinafter stipulated. The purchase price is established principally on a per unit basis and not on the basis of unit measurement of dimension."

Contractual Language is meant to be written with precision, if done correctly. Otherwise ambiguity can set in and may haunt contractual parties in the future.

Sa akin walang ganyan :)

Pero para sure check ko. I think kasi unfair ito.
Lalo na yung sa tower 3 & 4 na pinakitaan ng showroom at floorplan ng tower 1 & 2 and got the surprise of their lives when it was delivered na totally iba.

Kawawa naman sila.
Also saan ka nakakita 2BR unit na walang Laundry and Drying Area?
Saan pa? Mezza Residences.
"Live like a Star" talaga!
"Yaya! bring my Labahan to the laundromat pls! :banana:

May update po ba? Salamat po.

Good pm.Question lang po sa mga unit owners, kailangan po ba na i continue hoa fees kasi nabasa ko around july na wag muna magbayad so ganoon po ginawa namin.pero may na-receive na uli ako bill for july and august.nagbaba po ang fees from Php 4300 to 3700 parang Php 60 na lang as compared before na Php 70/sq.m.sana ma credit kami sa nabayad namin before.pls.update.thnks

Good pm.Question lang po sa mga unit owners, kailangan po ba na i continue hoa fees kasi nabasa ko around july na wag muna magbayad so ganoon po ginawa namin.pero may na-receive na uli ako bill for july and august.nagbaba po ang fees from Php 4300 to 3700 parang Php 60 na lang as compared before na Php 70/sq.m.sana ma credit kami sa nabayad namin before.pls.update.thnks

hello rugie. katanong ko lang sa nanay ko kagabi tungkol dyan. sila naman nakapagbayad nga ng 70/sqm since june pero ang sabi nag admin pag naapprove na ibabalik sya sa 60/sqm ay isosoli naman daw or yes ikicredit sa next bill.

may gym na nga daw or malapit na magamit pero may fees daw dahil sa involved operations cost. hmmm i thought it will be free. sana naman reasonable ang fees. then may bbq area na din which according to my mother is wala naman sigurong bayad when i asked if may bayad di ba ang pag gamit :lol:

sana soon magka election na ng hoa officers para maupdate na ang house rules.

lastly, may nadengue daw na katulong sa Mezza. :bash: ingat po mga Mezza tenants!

tsk tsk, kahit pala dito may bayad ang gym. kalokohan talaga ng mga developers to.

...may gym na nga daw or malapit na magamit pero may fees daw dahil sa involved operations cost. hmmm i thought it will be free. sana naman reasonable ang fees. then may bbq area na din which according to my mother is wala naman sigurong bayad when i asked if may bayad di ba ang pag gamit :lol:...

It might interest you to know that the Condominium Act of the Philippines (PD957) specifically prohibits the collection of fees for an alleged community benefit. It is understood that there is a cost involved in the operations and maintenance of amenities, but that should come from the Condo Fees and not as separate fees charged to residents for every usage.

Here is the context of the prohibition:
Section 27. Other Charges. No owner or developer shall levy upon any lot or buyer a fee for an alleged community benefit. Fees to finance services for common comfort, security and sanitation may be collected only by a properly organized homeowners association and only with the consent of a majority of the lot or unit buyers actually residing in the subdivision or condominium project.

It is also reiterated in HLURB website:
http://hlurb.gov.ph/services/developers/developers-responsibilities-and-obligations/responsibilities-obligations-of-owners-developers/
It specifically states that Developers....
“Refrain from levying any fee for an alleged community benefit upon the buyers...”

If they would pursue charging fees for using an amenity, I suggest to take this matter up with HLURB.

I have a 2BR penthouse unit unfurnished and 1 BR unit furnished for rent. Pls pm me.

hi ningnicole thnks sa update mo.sa statement na nabayaran na namin april 2010 to dec.2010 php60/sq.m at nagtaas sila jan.2011 hanggang may 2011 php70/sq.m.bale macredit pala ilang mos.na nabayaran namin.nag-continue ka na ba monthly bayad sa hoa dues since nareceive nyo asso.dues statement?salamat uli

hi ningnicole thnks sa update mo.sa statement na nabayaran na namin april 2010 to dec.2010 php60/sq.m at nagtaas sila jan.2011 hanggang may 2011 php70/sq.m.bale macredit pala ilang mos.na nabayaran namin.nag-continue ka na ba monthly bayad sa hoa dues since nareceive nyo asso.dues statement?salamat uli

hi rugie. nagbayad kami from June 2011 pa lang muna based on 70/sqm kasi nga nilalakad pa ng unit owners na mabalik ito sa 60/sqm kaya di ko muna binayaran yung from Jan 2011 to May 2011. bale 3mos pa lang kaming nakapagbayad naman ng fees based on 70/sqm at yun nga sabi ni nanay iaadjust naman daw yung nabayad pag naapprove na yung pagbalik sa 60/sqm. wala pa pong nakuhang new computation ang nanay ko based sa 60/sqm, and if you got yours already then baka this time meron na din kami. :banana:

tsk tsk, kahit pala dito may bayad ang gym. kalokohan talaga ng mga developers to.

Personally, I'd rather have "pay as you use" amenities (pool, gym, sauna, tennis court, club-house,etc.) with minimal condo dues over "free" amenities with high condo dues. I think this is fair to all especially for those who are based overseas with no tenant on their units, or those who seldom use the amenities. Besides, being free is usually associated with being abused, di ba? This is the usual complaint of my tenants and friends. They say the same faces occupy the gym and pool most of the time, as if they own the place. This is even more frustrating if the amenities are small.

Personally, I'd rather have "pay as you use" amenities (pool, gym, sauna, tennis court, club-house,etc.) with minimal condo dues over "free" amenities with high condo dues. I think this is fair to all especially for those who are based overseas with no tenant on their units, or those who seldom use the amenities. Besides, being free is usually associated with being abused, di ba? This is the usual complaint of my tenants and friends. They say the same faces occupy the gym and pool most of the time, as if they own the place. This is even more frustrating if the amenities are small.

hi nez. for me is option naman ng "pay as you use" and regular user rate. pero syempre applicable lang ito sa amenities kasi may cost din naman to maintain the common areas din. until walang rules about limitations sa pag gamit ng amenities eh puwede talaga siya maabuse. i dont know how elected hoa officers can impose rules later about that. siguro nga imposing fees can reduce their numbers. para if sila naman gamit ng gamit at least yung binabayad nila can be used sa maintenance.

saka dapat din mabantayan dyan eh mga users na beyond na sa tenant limits. i remember kami yung unang batch na naorient about hoa rules. may certain number lang per unit na i highly doubt if nasusunod. second, dapat maghigpit din sla sa mga outsiders na kahit ba c/o sa unit owner at nagbabayad sila eh dapat may days na di sla allowed or their numbers should be limited lang like maybe 10-15pax lang a day, etc. eh pano same din fees to use m bar and gazebo ng unit owners at mga outsiders.

also, no offense sa katulong ha pero sabi dati sa orientation eh di sla allowed to use the pool, pero i know many of them use it at nagsicelebrate din sla ng bday nla sa grass area :bash:

^^ just for the sake of discussion, what if yung common areas lang ang covered ng association dues at yung maintenance ng amenities will come from the payments (reasonable price) of eligible users? di ba fair sya for all unit owners since the non-users will no longer subsidize the users? bababa yung monthly dues and the amenities could be self-sustaining, i hope. i know it is easier said than done, but it's something worth considering. i proposed this in one of the hoa meetings i attended (not in mezza) but i was out-voted by the noisy ones who frequent the amenities.

^^ just for the sake of discussion, what if yung common areas lang ang covered ng association dues at yung maintenance ng amenities will come from the payments (reasonable price) of eligible users? di ba fair sya for all unit owners since the non-users will no longer subsidize the users? bababa yung monthly dues and the amenities could be self-sustaining, i hope. i know it is easier said than done, but it's something worth considering. i proposed this in one of the hoa meetings i attended (not in mezza) but i was out-voted by the noisy ones who frequent the amenities.

It may, or may not matter at all. It will depend on the type of maintenance system you have in cleaning the pool and maybe people density in your building/s. In the condominium where I own a unit for instance, water is pumped out of the outdoor pools (heated swimming pool and hot tub) through a piping system and run through a filtration system, then pumped back in to the pools. The water temperature is maintained at 85f for the heated pool and 104f for the hot tub for the entire time that the amenity area is open (6 am to 10 pm). The water is chemically tested every day for bacterial content to make sure it is clean and conforms to the health act. That type of maintenance is maintained regardless whether one or 10 people use the pools on a daily basis. Hence, cost wise, it’s not going to make any difference at all. Just my two cents worth.

^^ just for the sake of discussion, what if yung common areas lang ang covered ng association dues at yung maintenance ng amenities will come from the payments (reasonable price) of eligible users? di ba fair sya for all unit owners since the non-users will no longer subsidize the users? bababa yung monthly dues and the amenities could be self-sustaining, i hope. i know it is easier said than done, but it's something worth considering. i proposed this in one of the hoa meetings i attended (not in mezza) but i was out-voted by the noisy ones who frequent the amenities.

natawa ako sa noisy :lol: nature na talaga ng tao ang pagiging self-serving. pag di pabor sa kanila eh ayaw sumunod :nuts: other unit owners can reason out din kasi na di na nila fault yun if yung ibang unit owners/tenants ay ayaw gamitin ang amenities while they use it frequently :cheers:.

sana maisama ito ng mga maielect na hoa officers. may magaling sanang mag cost analysis about this. di lang talaga maiiwasan ang politics sa hoa, normal ng may faction at the one leading could be critized. kaya nga if ano ang majority, then lets go for that.

^^ Good point. However, you have to consider that the pool maintenance requires consumables (water, filter, chemical, light bulbs, etc.) and power, which is very expensive here. You also have to consider the wear and tear of the pumps and the pool itself and its share of the property tax. The same is true with the gyms, saunas, etc. Those expenses are usually bundled on the association dues and paid by all owners/tenant whether or not they use said amenities. Why not make them generate income instead so they can pay for their own keep and then charge only condo dues for the common areas like elevators? I think every HOA could identify/breakdown the expenses of every amenity so they would know how much to charge the users.

^^ Good point. However, you have to consider that the pool maintenance requires consumables (water, filter, chemical, light bulbs, etc.) and power, which is very expensive here. You also have to consider the wear and tear of the pumps and the pool itself and its share of the property tax. The same is true with the gyms, saunas, etc. Those expenses are usually bundled on the association dues and paid by all owners/tenant whether or not they use said amenities. Why not make them generate income instead so they can pay for their own keep and then charge only condo dues for the common areas like elevators? I think every HOA could identify/breakdown the expenses of every amenity so they would know how much to charge the users.

agree. specially yun barbecue pit, dapat may bayad yan at may deposit, pag hindi nilinis yun pit pagkatapos gamitin hindi na ibabalik yun deposit.
sa gym naman, agree rin ako na may bayad din, kung walang bayad kasi baka naman hindi na makakapag gym yun iba, gaano ba kalaki yan gym , kaya ba para sa 4 towers? , kung walang bayad, dapat may araw na pwede gumamit ang per tower or per floor, example, odd number tower 1 and 3 pwede gumamit, even number tower 2 and 4 para hindi ma congest ang gym, pwede rin odd number, 5th floor to 25th floor, even number 26th floor to 38th floor.

yun swimming pool, wala na dapat babayaran dyan kasi yun maintenance nyan halos pareho lang yan kahit konti o marami gumamit.

^^ and take note, most gyms are fully air-conditioned, same with indoor play areas. why would i pay for that, kung wala naman akong anak? ganun din sa parking areas, 24x7 guarded, maintained at nakabukas mga lights, e wala naman akong slot sa parking? why should i subsidize those parking slot owners? why not make all amenities profit-centers? and if the income is good baka puede na nila i-subsidize ung dues for the common areas. just asking... :)

^^ and take note, most gyms are fully air-conditioned, same with indoor play areas. why would i pay for that, kung wala naman akong anak? ganun din sa parking areas, 24x7 guarded, maintained at nakabukas mga lights, e wala naman akong slot sa parking? why should i subsidize those parking slot owners? why not make all amenities profit-centers? and if the income is good baka puede na nila i-subsidize ung dues for the common areas. just asking... :)

yun parking slot po may binabayaran din ata yun owner na dues per month, pls verify mga parking slot owner. salamat

it actually depends on how much you will save. if malaki then "pay as you use" is better. if 10-50 pesos lang (since marami naman units magbuild si smdc sa condo niya na parang tenement, marami magshe-share), i don't see a point to implement "pay as you use".

also to consider, dahil utak pinoy tayo, marami ang gustong manglamang, (like kahit hindi registered, tapos palalabasin na libre gumamit), "pay as you use" is better. well, it will depends on both. how much will be saved and how strict are they to implement the rules. puwede namang magpataw ng penalty (like pay 5x the ongoing rate ng use ng amenities if mahuli) as well as ma-black list. (like 1 month suspension to use i.e swimming pool/gym pag nahuli for the first time, 3 months sa next and 1 year if third time in a year.)

IMO its unfair for condo unit owners to not use these facilities/amenities as they pay for it. kaya nga kumuha ng condo para doon eh. its just because may mga tiwali pati sila madadamay? better ipataw yung penalties sa mga lalabag lang.

IMO its unfair for condo unit owners to not use these facilities/amenities as they pay for it. kaya nga kumuha ng condo para doon eh. its just because may mga tiwali pati sila madadamay? better ipataw yung penalties sa mga lalabag lang.

IMO it's also unfair to be billed a pro-rata share of the operating cost of the amenities even though you don't or hardly use these facilities.

For me the ideal set-up is no condo dues, but pay reasonable amount for every use of the amenities. reasonable means, just enough to break-even and well below the rate being charged to outsiders. I know mabusisi ito, but could be done with a dedicated HOA and property management.

@Danny, yes there are monthly dues for parking areas. I missed that.

^^ and take note, most gyms are fully air-conditioned, same with indoor play areas. why would i pay for that, kung wala naman akong anak? ganun din sa parking areas, 24x7 guarded, maintained at nakabukas mga lights, e wala naman akong slot sa parking? why should i subsidize those parking slot owners? why not make all amenities profit-centers? and if the income is good baka puede na nila i-subsidize ung dues for the common areas. just asking... :)

nez we pay separate hoa fees for parking slot. if you dont have parking slot, you will not pay for that.

sa akin hmm....tama na muna yung 60/sqm na yan to cover basic maintenance then implement the "reasonable fees" for the use ng amenities at after few months if may good income talaga na nakukuha dyan, then either they can reduce the 60 or gamitin yung income sa pagpapaganda or pagdagdag ng existing amenities. wish ko lang :cheers:

IMO it's also unfair to be billed a pro-rata share of the operating cost of the amenities even though you don't or hardly use these facilities.

For me the ideal set-up is no condo dues, but pay reasonable amount for every use of the amenities. reasonable means, just enough to break-even and well below the rate being charged to outsiders. I know mabusisi ito, but could be done with a dedicated HOA and property management.

@Danny, yes there are monthly dues for parking areas. I missed that.

nez, wag naman no condo dues kasi pano naman basic maintenance like lights sa lobby, guard, hallway cleaning, etc. :cheers:

nez, wag naman no condo dues kasi pano naman basic maintenance like lights sa lobby, guard, hallway cleaning, etc. :cheers:

exactly, kaya nga dapat ang goal ng every hoa, imo, is to make profit centers out of all the amenities na puedeng pagkakakitaan using the "pay-as-you-use" set-up. that way, it can also pay for the common areas at wala ng association dues. kung pwede nga lang gumamit ng coin-operated elevators, mas mabuti para walang reklamo yung nasa lower floors. :lol: kung sakali mang magkaroon ng fund shortage, saka na lang maningil ng association dues to cover for it.

ang nangyayari ngayon, developers or their appointed property managers just pick up a figure from nowhere (industry rate daw) at yun na ang isisingil nila. they don't even bother to show how they arrived on their charges.

hi ningnicole salamat sa update mo.yong latest bill na nareceive namin php60/sq.m na price at na credit yong nabayad namin from ja.2011 to june 2011.magbabayad na rin kami ng hoa fees hanggang sept.bill.ang start mo ba eh since last year pa at what month ka nag start ? thnks ulit

hi ningnicole salamat sa update mo.yong latest bill na nareceive namin php60/sq.m na price at na credit yong nabayad namin from ja.2011 to june 2011.magbabayad na rin kami ng hoa fees hanggang sept.bill.ang start mo ba eh since last year pa at what month ka nag start ? thnks ulit

opo since last year pa dapat start ko though wala pang nabigay na total to us. ang naging suggestion kasi ng nanay ko is magbayad lang muna kami from June to date(kasi ito ang nirequire talaga from us) until maibalik yung 60/sqm.

rugie, nakatira din ba kayo sa Mezza now or pinapaupahan nyo?

exactly, kaya nga dapat ang goal ng every hoa, imo, is to make profit centers out of all the amenities na puedeng pagkakakitaan using the "pay-as-you-use" set-up. that way, it can also pay for the common areas at wala ng association dues. kung pwede nga lang gumamit ng coin-operated elevators, mas mabuti para walang reklamo yung nasa lower floors. :lol: kung sakali mang magkaroon ng fund shortage, saka na lang maningil ng association dues to cover for it.

ang nangyayari ngayon, developers or their appointed property managers just pick up a figure from nowhere (industry rate daw) at yun na ang isisingil nila. they don't even bother to show how they arrived on their charges.

problem there is once hoa makes profit out of pay-as-you-use, it will be subjected to tax. i don't know kung may tax binabayaran ang hoa if they just collect dues for utility expense. also there is the risk na gawing negosyo yan ng naka-upo. how can you monitor yung mga pasok ng pera sa "pay-as-you-use"? madali lang yun dayain.

if you want hoa to have some sort of income, why not put up a vendo machine sa ibaba tapos may pasa-load din sa information desk? puwede pa may coffee shop sa lobby.

natawa naman ako sa coin-operated elevator. try mo gumawa. that will be first in the phils. sikat ka pag nagkaganoon. also maganda din yata coin-operated sa swimming pool at mga threadmill machines.

i have a better idea. para sure may constant income ang hoa, yung main entrance ng mezza coin operated na rin. pag hulog mo automatic kang pagbubuksan. labas-pasok ng tao mag-gegenerate ito ng income. this way hindi ka na magbabayad ng asso dues. :lol:

hi ningnicole, hindi kami nakatira doon ginagamit lang namin pag umuuwi kami at hindi rin namin pinaparent kumpleto sa gamit kasi.pag may kakilala na interesado sa 3 bdr.at negotiable price pls.pm me k thnks

Hi Ning, meron din ako 1 bedroom for rent at 2 bedroom penthouse for rent Baka may kakilala ka gusto mag rent. Salamat po

Hi Ning, meron din ako 1 bedroom for rent at 2 bedroom penthouse for rent Baka may kakilala ka gusto mag rent. Salamat po

hehe si villota po nagpaparent. i think may more than 10 units siyang pinaparent na mga mezza units from unit owners. he also post here pero sabihan ko po sya na i pm kayo.

@keyo, i think hoa's are non-profit organizations, hence they are exempted from income tax. of course, they withhold and pay taxes, sss, philhealth etc. of their employees. besides, any profit they earn will be used for the upkeep of their condos/villages.

true, pag may pera na pumapasok andyan na ang kurakot. but isn't this going on already with the condo dues charged by developers and their property managers? the first step really is to for the hoa to take over control of the management of the property. then establish audit and monitoring systems to plug loopholes in the handling of funds.

re condo dues, members and officers of hoa should aim first for a zero amount when they meet to decide what is the fair rate. when they set their minds into it, creative ideas will come out on how they can achieve it. saying outright that it can't be done without even thinking about ways and means how to do it, is laziness. and that hoa deserves a high condo dues.

even if the hoa eventually finds out, after a creative brainstorming, that zero-dues is not possible, they will at least arrive at a low rate that satisfies most, if not all. just my thoughts... :)

Hi! Question lang po. Do they charge you residential rates for you elec and water bill?

Another question po. Meron ba ditong nakapagloan nung unit sa bdo kht wala pang master deeds and copy ng title? Baka kasi maging in house financing pag di ko nailian sa bdo yung remaining balance ko dahil wala tong mga requirements na ito.

Hi, anyone knows an affordable 1BR or 2BR fully furnished unit for rent from Dec 30-Jan 30? Please PM me.... Thanks...

Hi! Question lang po. Do they charge you residential rates for you elec and water bill?

hi bellabear. ang alam ko residential na ang rate ng electric since we transferred in 2009 pero ang water di pa din until today. paki correct na lang ako mga unit owners if mali. kasi yung electric bills namin is halos same sa dati naming bills namin (townhouse) but i am sure sa water na commercial pa din kasi nirereklamo sya ng nanay ko na mahal ang per cu.m. also the last time i followed up with them na less than 1 yr pa lang sabi nila wala pa din reply from water provider about pag change nga to residential rate.

hi ningnicole,sabi ng sister in-law ko ang rate daw ng water natin eh residential na which is sobrang mahal php69.66/cu.m.galing kasi sya over the weekend binayaran na nya hoa at sa mga di pa nakabayad i think deadline till dec.2011 para mabayaran kulang nila.sobra talaga charge nila tubig at halos wala naman stay sa unit namin pero ang mahal ng binayad namin.sana marami magreklamo tungkol dito.yong unit namin di ko pa rent benta ko kung negotiable price.update ka lang ha anytime dami ko natutunan sa yo thnks

hi bellabear. ang alam ko residential na ang rate ng electric since we transferred in 2009 pero ang water di pa din until today. paki correct na lang ako mga unit owners if mali. kasi yung electric bills namin is halos same sa dati naming bills namin (townhouse) but i am sure sa water na commercial pa din kasi nirereklamo sya ng nanay ko na mahal ang per cu.m. also the last time i followed up with them na less than 1 yr pa lang sabi nila wala pa din reply from water provider about pag change nga to residential rate.

Mabuti nalang resi rate un kuryente. Haaay.

hi ningnicole,sabi ng sister in-law ko ang rate daw ng water natin eh residential na which is sobrang mahal php69.66/cu.m.galing kasi sya over the weekend binayaran na nya hoa at sa mga di pa nakabayad i think deadline till dec.2011 para mabayaran kulang nila.sobra talaga charge nila tubig at halos wala naman stay sa unit namin pero ang mahal ng binayad namin.sana marami magreklamo tungkol dito.yong unit namin di ko pa rent benta ko kung negotiable price.update ka lang ha anytime dami ko natutunan sa yo thnks

ay good naman at residential rate na pala ang water bill. mabawasan na nga budget nila nanay hehe pero yan daw ba ang rate for residential? ang mahal pa din. i will also inquire from admin about this.

Allowed ba ang condo management na sumingil ng mas mataas na rate sa tubig at kuryente kaysa sa mga service provider?

hi ningnicole,sabi ng sister in-law ko ang rate daw ng water natin eh residential na which is sobrang mahal php69.66/cu.m.galing kasi sya over the weekend binayaran na nya hoa at sa mga di pa nakabayad i think deadline till dec.2011 para mabayaran kulang nila.sobra talaga charge nila tubig at halos wala naman stay sa unit namin pero ang mahal ng binayad namin.sana marami magreklamo tungkol dito.yong unit namin di ko pa rent benta ko kung negotiable price.update ka lang ha anytime dami ko natutunan sa yo thnks

deadline po ba december 2011? magkano naman po yun babayaran from january 2011 to June 2011? 60 per sq metres ba or 70 per sq.meters?

at yun HOA ba kelan ba sila nagsimula sumingil? date of turnover po ba? so kung Jan 2009 naturn over unit magbabayad ka from January 2009 to now?

hi danny, since last year yong nareceive naming statement around june so binayaran naming lahat ito.for 2010 php60/sq.m then 2011 php70/sq.m.last statement namin july and august php60/sq.m then na credit yong nabayad namin na 70/sq.m from jan2011 to june 2011.sorry ha kung medyo magulo pero mas mabuti magcoordinate kayo admin.oo yata dec.deadline para sa hindi pa nakakabayad para may time o installment makabayad unit owners.

so what is the official rate here -- 60 or 70 per m2? 70/m2 is higher than the rate of some less dense condos in bgc. i think hoa's of high density projects should enjoy relatively lower condo dues thru the economy of scale.

so what is the official rate here -- 60 or 70 per m2? 70/m2 is higher than the rate of some less dense condos in bgc. i think hoa's of high density projects should enjoy relatively lower condo dues thru the economy of scale.


lol. nice one nez. yan yung pinapalabas nilang excuse sa client kung magdadagdag sila ng floors at mabenta nila yung super high density tenement-inspire condos nila. yung pala sisingil sila ng mas mataas kaysa sa mga low density condos. lol

hi danny, since last year yong nareceive naming statement around june so binayaran naming lahat ito.for 2010 php60/sq.m then 2011 php70/sq.m.last statement namin july and august php60/sq.m then na credit yong nabayad namin na 70/sq.m from jan2011 to june 2011.sorry ha kung medyo magulo pero mas mabuti magcoordinate kayo admin.oo yata dec.deadline para sa hindi pa nakakabayad para may time o installment makabayad unit owners.

i asked my mother din danny, wala pa syang billing sa ibang months na nakukuha.

@nez its 60/sqm. and in tower 1 and 2 (i supposed) ang alam ko there are 10 rooms per floor. and mas madaming rooms sa tower 3 and 4 kasi mas madaming 1br units dun. such rate can be reduced later depende sa hoa kasi sila na magpapatakbo ng maintenance later.

Pumasyal ako kahapon sa Mezza, gawa na raw gym kulang pa raw equipment.. kita ko rin yung barbecue grills, at mini childrens playground 2 klase lang nakalagay na pedeng gamitin ng mga bata na pang 2-3 years old lang yun.... wala pa rin kapalit dun sa glass door sa 5th flr.... hindi pa pede ang gym.... ano kaya ang hinihintay???

me nag oofer sa akin sa My Place Ortigas.... hay naku hindi na lang ang MEZZA ang last investment ko sa SMDC nakakadala sila... WHAT HAPPEN NA KAYA yung file natin sa Municipal of Quezon City

may update po ba ? salamat:)

may update po ba ? salamat:)

hi danny. hi everyone :)

Villota informed me last night na na-waive yung hoa fees after ng 6mos advance nyo up to May this year. June onwards daw ang sisingilin lang. napakagandang news naman :banana: :cheers:

i dont know if they will send a mail to all unit owners but i advise you to check this sa admin din. tama lang ang advice sa amin na June onwards lang muna bayaran......

hi ningnicole salamat sa update mo ha.magandang balita ito at kailangan namin puntahan admin. at pa recompute naibayad namin kung waive pala previous hoa fees. bale june of this year start ng bayad di ba?

hi danny. hi everyone :)

Villota informed me last night na na-waive yung hoa fees after ng 6mos advance nyo up to May this year. June onwards daw ang sisingilin lang. napakagandang news naman :banana: :cheers:

i dont know if they will send a mail to all unit owners but i advise you to check this sa admin din. tama lang ang advice sa amin na June onwards lang muna bayaran......

salamat Ning:)

yun HOA mag start lang this year tama po ba? so kung na turn over yun unit nun 2010 , ngayon January 2011 lang tayo mag start magbabayad ng HOA tama po ba? tapos yun 6 months deposit idededuct Jan 2011 to June 2011, then magbabayad start June 2011...

may update po ba dun sa mga damages sa buildings?

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