Near R'cif
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Old moroccan medicine
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Primary school
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Somewhere
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That's acutally not in Fes, it's a market beside the road to Meknes
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Street deco in the new town.
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Medersa, name i forgot. Actually it was near Quaraouine but it was not used any more. It was just empty.
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R'cif
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Palais Royal, Fes El-Jdid
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Candy shop in Mellah
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Mellah
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Bab in Fes El-Jdid
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Square west of Batha
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Riad
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Cafe in the Hotel Merinides
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Borj Nord
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Medina Jadida in the background
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Moulay Idriss
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Karaouien
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Nice squre south of Karaouien
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Nekhalien
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Some gate :D
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Hadiqa fii riad
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Nice contrast
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Tannery
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Medersa near Al-Andalous
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Attarine
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Riad
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Fez is ugly!

^^
I do not get it. Fes is definitely ranking above Casa, Agadir and many other cities in terms of beauty!
In terms of old history Fes is the most interesting place in Morocco.

History yes! But Casablanca, Agadir... are more beautiful than Fez, it's sure! ;)

^^

Oki, different people different taste. For me Casa is butt ugly and Agadir is boring. For you it is vice versa.

^^

Oki, different people different taste. For me Casa is butt ugly and Agadir is boring. For you it is vice versa.

You need a lot of money to love Casa, Rabat and Marrakech! ;) Agadir is good for old tourists! ;)

Fez is horrible, old fashionned and dirty. Only few parts in the downtown look clean and presentable.

Last time i visited Fes was a very long time ago. I believe it was in 1998. As i could remember it was very clean and absolutely beautiful at that time! The places in the pictures are ok! But the area around Sidi Harazam is more beautiful! Does somebody has pictures of Sidi Harezem in Fes? Please post!!

tnx for the pictures Isek they r really nice.. well as u said tastes r different but guys come on u saying that fez is ugly and dirty.. well this part u talking about is the old medina, it's old and kept everything the same.. so what about casa and rabat's medinas?? rnt they ugly , old fashioned and dirty too? fez's old town looks thousand times much better, bigger, finest and richest than any other old town in morocco and the world too.. if u had to compare cities let us know which parts i mean between old towns or new towns.. tnx.. one more thing, you can feel the beauty of it only while you're there and at the end tastes r different

btw the medersa by the qarawiyyine mosque on top which u forgot the name Isek is named Cherratine medersa

tnx for the pictures Isek they r really nice.. well as u said tastes r different but guys come on u saying that fez is ugly and dirty.. well this part u talking about is the old medina, it's old and kept everything the same.. so what about casa and rabat's medinas?? rnt they ugly , old fashioned and dirty too? fez's old town looks thousand times much better, bigger, finest and richest than any other old town in morocco and the world too.. if u had to compare cities let us know which parts i mean between old towns or new towns.. tnx.. one more thing, you can feel the beauty of it only while you're there and at the end tastes r different

btw the medersa by the qarawiyyine mosque on top which u forgot the name Isek is named Cherratine medersa

Agree with you (by the way, Rabat's medina is ultra clean). People sometimes say a lot of bullshit on that forum...

You need a lot of money to love Casa, Rabat and Marrakech! ;) Agadir is good for old tourists! ;)

Maybe you can buy love, but you can't buy beauty ;)

Anyway, there's no accounting for taste. Last summer, I visited Fes for the first time and I was very impressed. It's magnificent and a beautiful piece of world heritage.

I never been to fes but I heard it has the highest crime rate in all of morocco's major cities i read it in let matin and a magazine

I never been to fes but I heard it has the highest crime rate in all of morocco's major cities i read it in let matin and a magazine

Highly doubt it, Casablanca must be Number 1 ;)

History yes! But Casablanca, Agadir... are more beautiful than Fez, it's sure! ;)

Casa beautiful???? It's not Paris!!!!
You must not know Morocco to say that !!

Fes is the most beautiful city in Morrocco and in the Arabic Maghreb, the first imperial city, Bab boujloud, the largest medina in the world, the first university in the world, a beautiful architecture...

Casa is nothing in terms of beauty compared to Fes, all Morrocans say that!!!
The money in Casa is the propriety of Fassi's Families:)! like all the Morocco lol
Moreover to love a city money is not important,

Highly doubt it, Casablanca must be Number 1 ;)

Number 1 of nothing!!!, I love Morroco It's my country and Casa is a Morrocan city but compared to other cities in Morroco Casa is not beautiful like Fes, Marrakech, chaouen, Rabat also is most beautiful than casa with an architecture very beautiful, Tetouan with an andalusian medina, the rif's mountains are magnificent, Tangier is the city of the painters Matisse, delacroix because of the brightness...

Casa is the economic Capital, the biggest city but She doesn't represent the beauty of Morrocco!

Casa beautiful???? It's not Paris!!!!
You must not know Morocco to say that !!

Fes is the most beautiful city in Morrocco and in the Arabic Maghreb, the first imperial city, Bab boujloud, the largest medina in the world, the first university in the world, a beautiful architecture...

Casa is nothing in terms of beauty compared to Fes, all Morrocans say that!!!
The money in Casa is the propriety of Fassi's Families:)! like all the Morocco lol
Moreover to love a city money is not important,

I don't care about what people say! Fes is ugly, dirty, old and boring! I love my city, Casablanca! Even it's not Paris! Casablanca is Casablanca and Paris is Paris! ;)

You need a lot of money to love Casa, Rabat and Marrakech! ;) Agadir is good for old tourists! ;)

It seems that in general most of the young and educated Europeans (students e.g.) have some very different taste on what is beautiful! No one here would consider Casa or even Agadir beautiful. We love old medina in Fes, we love old moroccan tradition, handicraft and food. Sorry to say but most of your modern city things are just cheap crap for us by just trying to imitate crappy decadent Western lifestyle....



btw the medersa by the qarawiyyine mosque on top which u forgot the name Isek is named Cherratine medersa

Thanks. Are you born in Fes? I realized that they are updating Google Maps with lots of informations even in Fes. Hopefully they add all sites and all major derbs.

It seems that in general most of the young and educated Europeans (students e.g.) have some very different taste on what is beautiful! No one here would consider Casa or even Agadir beautiful. We love old medina in Fes, we love old moroccan tradition, handicraft and food. Sorry to say but most of your modern city things are just cheap crap for us by just trying to imitate crappy decadent Western lifestyle....




Thanks. Are you born in Fes? I realized that they are updating Google Maps with lots of informations even in Fes. Hopefully they add all sites and all major derbs.

I don't care, I don't like Fez!

I don't care, I don't like Fez!

Oki. No problem. But many Moroccans say that Casa would be nothing without the old aristocratic people mainly from Fes that moved to Casa to do business.

:cheers:

Oki. No problem. But many Moroccans say that Casa would be nothing without the old aristocratic people mainly from Fes that moved to Casa to do business.

:cheers:

I've nothin against Fessis but their city is ugly and boring, that's why they left it! hahahaha ;)
U don't understand, I don't hate Fez but for me it's just a boring historic city! ;)

And what do you find interesting in Casa? Do not get me wrong and i just have been to Casa three times, but it did not impress me at all. Hassan II and the seashore outside the city is nice but that's all.
Give some European a reason to spend more than 1 night in Casa. Tell me, i am curious about.

And what do you find interesting in Casa? Do not get me wrong and i just have been to Casa three times, but it did not impress me at all. Hassan II and the seashore outside the city is nice but that's all.
Give some European a reason to spend more than 1 night in Casa. Tell me, i am curious about.

My family is in Casa, my friends, everything in my life, I live in Casa since I was born! Casa is maybe very boring if you compare it with Paris, London or Madrid but it's Morocco's most important city, you can find everything here, things that you can't do in Fez or Agadir, you can do them here! If you prefer Fez it's good for you then go to Fez! ;) If I want to go to Fez I can take a car and go there! :) :cheers:

Oki, for sure private things makes the city important to your life. But i was asking whether you can give me some hints about visiting Casa next time. So i can go there and spend some time. Some nice places, bars or theater or some nice outlook.

Oki, for sure private things makes the city important to your life. But i was asking whether you can give me some hints about visiting Casa next time. So i can go there and spend some time. Some nice places, bars or theater or some nice outlook.

Casa is not a big cultural place but if you want to party, you can find everything here! ;) Are you Moroccan or have Moroccan origins?

Casa is not a big cultural place but if you want to party, you can find everything here! ;) Are you Moroccan or have Moroccan origins?
This debate is ridiculous, Fes is Morocco, Casa is Morocco! I love all cities of Morrocco!!!

And to finish
GOD bless Morrocco!!
Our country is fantastic:banana:

This debate is ridiculous, Fes is Morocco, Casa is Morocco!
And to finish
GOD bless Morrocco!!
Our country is fantastic:banana:

Absolutly, Fez or Casa it's the same for me as a Moroccan! Casa is more interesting FOR ME than Fez that's all! ;)

Are you Moroccan or have Moroccan origins?

No, i'm European.

Well, so next time i'm in Casa i will look out for some young freaky people to show me some decent places to roam around. :cheers:

Absolutly, Fez or Casa it's the same for me as a Moroccan! Casa is more interesting FOR ME than Fez that's all! ;)
Maybe but Fez has a good Future and a great potential, every parts of the city are UC!!!:banana:

Maybe but Fez has a good Future and a great potential, every parts of the city are UC!!!:banana:

:lol: No doubt about that! BUT Casa IS the future! ;) :cheers:

^^you are so immature!:bash: Casa is not the best city in the world, there are one hundred better cities out there!! You always bash other cities in Morocco and elsewhere but then you cry when someone talks bad about casablanca! Grow up:nuts: Do yourself a favor and leave Morocco, travel the world, then come back and you'll see how unimportant casa is to 99% of the world. I'm sorry to sound mean, but you need to stop with your bs casa pride.

All Moroccan cities have their good sides, but they all need improvements as well:cheers:l

^^you are so immature!:bash: Casa is not the best city in the world, there are one hundred better cities out there!! You always bash other cities in Morocco and elsewhere but then you cry when someone talks bad about casablanca! Grow up:nuts: Do yourself a favor and leave Morocco, travel the world, then come back and you'll see how unimportant casa is to 99% of the world. I'm sorry to sound mean, but you need to stop with your bs casa pride.

All Moroccan cities have their good sides, but they all need improvements as well:cheers:l

^^ What an IDIOT! We are talking about Fez and Casa not about other cities in the world! You are so stupid! :)

Agree with you (by the way, Rabat's medina is ultra clean). People sometimes say a lot of bullshit on that forum...

u right.. well ive been to Rabat's medina many times since it's my seconde favorite city after Fes and it was dirty too.. it's morocco bro :ohno: .. it's not perfect

Thanks. Are you born in Fes? I realized that they are updating Google Maps with lots of informations even in Fes. Hopefully they add all sites and all major derbs.

u welcome.. yup born and raised in Fes :) i figured out too about informations, however the satellite image is still the same old one since 2006 while Hassan II avenue was U-C.. i hope so too

:lol: No doubt about that! BUT Casa IS the future! ;) :cheers:

... and i thought Tangier would be THE future city of Morocco.



however the satellite image is still the same old one since 2006 while Hassan II avenue was U-C.. i hope so too

It's really a pity that they are not updating pictures with high quality. The quality shown now is nealy useless for all that tiny paths and and houses in the old medina. I really love medina of Fes it's so different from our "western life"..

... and i thought Tangier would be THE future city of Morocco.

Sure! Tangier has a great future! I love Tangier! :) BUT Casa is the economic city, the city of 5millions...! I'd love to see Tangier shining in a near future! :cheers:

Oh no, not that 5 million again! :lol: Got that data from Arab wikipedia site? :ohno:

Any census? Any reliable data? Any idea about how many of that x million are economical active people?

Oh no, not that 5 million again! :lol: Got that data from Arab wikipedia site? :ohno:

Any census? Any reliable data? Any idea about how many of that x million are economical active people?

+/- 3millions for the city! +/- 5millions for the agglomeration! ;)

Well, Gran Casa is a subdivision of Maroc having somewhat 3.8 million (assuming we trust that data). I strongly doubt that the agglomeration is exceeding Gran Casa. If you count Mohammedia, Mediouna, Bouskoura you better define a metropoltian area that is also including Berrechid for example.

But back to Fes! Why do so many Moroccans do not like Fes? It is because many old rich families come from Fes?

Well, Gran Casa is a subdivision of Maroc having somewhat 3.8 million (assuming we trust that data). I strongly doubt that the agglomeration is exceeding Gran Casa. If you count Mohammedia, Mediouna, Bouskoura you better define a metropoltian area that is also including Berrechid for example.

But back to Fes! Why do so many Moroccans do not like Fes? It is because many old rich families come from Fes?

^^ People love Fes! But it's not Rabat, Casa or Marrakech, it's just Fes! I have many friends from there! ;)

^^ People love Fes! But it's not Rabat, Casa or Marrakech, it's just Fes! I have many friends from there! ;)

Just Fes? Oki so the Moroccan Non-fessi thinks that Rabat, Casa or Marrakech is somewhat above Fes? I do not get it. I visited every big Moroccan city and i can not find any city-property that makes Fes unattractive. For me Fes is the most sympathic Moroccan city. Marrakech is Disneyland, Casa is ugly and Rabat is arrogant.. ;-)

Just Fes? Oki so the Moroccan Non-fessi thinks that Rabat, Casa or Marrakech is somewhat above Fes? I do not get it. I visited every big Moroccan city and i can not find any city-property that makes Fes unattractive. For me Fes is the most sympathic Moroccan city. Marrakech is Disneyland, Casa is ugly and Rabat is arrogant.. ;-)

;) I like Casa, Marrakech and Rabat! :cheers:

^^ What an IDIOT! We are talking about Fez and Casa not about other cities in the world! You are so stupid! :)

Did you even read past the first sentence that I posted??? Or do you have the attention span of a two-year old?:bash: Again, you are very immature and you need to grow up:)

But back to Fes! Why do so many Moroccans do not like Fes? It is because many old rich families come from Fes?

:nuts::nuts:

I don't like Fes because its boring, warm and has a dirty medina (specially when you visit other medinas such as Chaouen, Rabat or Tetouan) and I don't like Casablanca because its a big industrial city.
My favourite city is Chefchaouen or Chaouen, so each to his own! :)

.. it's morocco bro :ohno: .. it's not perfect

What a colloquial statement :ohno:

Did you even read past the first sentence that I posted??? Or do you have the attention span of a two-year old?:bash: Again, you are very immature and you need to grow up:)

^^ IDIOT! ;)

:nuts::nuts:

I don't like Fes because its boring, warm and has a dirty medina (specially when you visit other medinas such as Chaouen, Rabat or Tetouan) and I don't like Casablanca because its a big industrial city.
My favourite city is Chefchaouen or Chaouen, so each to his own! :)



What a colloquial statement :ohno:

Tetouan's medina is not really clean...! ;)

^^ IDIOT! ;)

come to Egypt and say it to my face!!:bash: yallah, I'm waiting....bitch:lol:

come to Egypt and say it to my face!!:bash: yallah, I'm waiting....bitch:lol:

^^ Ok baby I'm coming! :D :cheers:

Ey! That's a thread i want to show fotos i made in Fes. It's not for flaming around... :nuts:

Ey! That's a thread i want to show fotos i made in Fes. It's not for flaming around... :nuts:

^^ Oops sorry! :lol: :lol:

:nuts::nuts:

I don't like Fes because its boring, warm and has a dirty medina (specially when you visit other medinas such as Chaouen, Rabat or Tetouan) and I don't like Casablanca because its a big industrial city.
My favourite city is Chefchaouen or Chaouen, so each to his own! :)



What a colloquial statement :ohno:

Fes is not boring! do You know Fes and his around? I think you don't know!
Tetouan was the dirtiest city of Morrocco when HII was King... Fez is class not tetouan, casa ... But Tetouan has a beautiful medina I think.

THe most beautiful and interesant cities of morrocco are the four imperial's cities:
FES
Marrakech
Rabat
Meknes

Secondly we can add Ouarzazate, Tangier but not Agadir!

Fes is not boring! do You know Fes and his around? I think you don't know!

I've been to Fes many times, and i didn't like it.
Do you understand the statement "Each to his own"?

Tetouan was the dirtiest city of Morrocco when HII was King

False because under H II, Morocco was the dirtiest country on earth.

... Fez is class not tetouan, casa ... But Tetouan has a beautiful medina I think.

I said i like Chaouen's medina, so i don't understand why are you bashing at Tetouan :nuts:

False because under H II, Morocco was the dirtiest country on earth.



:
No It's not false and I am an MRE and during HII each years when I arrived in Morrocco Tetouan was miserable and dirty IT's the true, it's my experience!!! ALL the Tetouanis say that the region of tetouan,mdiq,fnidek , sebta, was very miserable!
I know Morrocco very well, I have been To each region in the kingdom and I can say during HII chamal was the most miserable region in Morrocco!
Moreover during HII RABAT, Fes, Marrakech ... was not dirty but the Chamal was miserable but now the things have changed with Mohamed VI politics and it is Better!

God bless Morrocco!

The first time I went to fes was this summer, and didn't like it, but it has something special, I don't know what but it has it, didn't went to downtown, but some people told me that now it's cleaner than before, and I saw that in other parts like the main avenue and other areas, touristic areas btw...

About Casa, I think that you have to be born or live in Casa to like it...I'm Rbati (born n' living but not really Rbati) and as most of Rbatis they don't like the lifestyle of Casa to noisy and crowded, maybe to spend the day there but not to live in it...

^^ Oops sorry! :lol: :lol:

:rofl:
perhaps more pics should be posted:lol:

No It's not false and I am an MRE and during HII each years when I arrived in Morrocco Tetouan was miserable and dirty IT's the true, it's my experience!!! ALL the Tetouanis say that the region of tetouan,mdiq,fnidek , sebta, was very miserable!

You seems to like talking about past, so let's talk about past...

Tetouan before H II was the most industrialised city of Morocco, thanks to the Spanish and was the administrative capital of the country after Rabat (second most powerful city in taking decisions).

So why are you talking about H II? Everybody knows that he hated the North, besides that, he did nothing to improve the economy of Morocco nor to fight illetracy..., he only increased his own wealth and destroyed not only Northern Morocco's economy and infrastructure but the economy of the whole country!

Miserable??? You must be confusing Tetouan's region with an other one :nuts:
I remember you that Marinasmir, Restinga, Kabila, Cabo Negro... were built under H II So we wasn't that "miserable"!!

during HII chamal was the most miserable region in Morrocco! Moreover during HII RABAT, Fes, Marrakech ... was not dirty

I repeat, all the Moroccan cities were dirty and neglected during that period Tangier, Tetuan, Fes and Casablanca...
And many Moroccans will agree with me on that!!

By the way, I was 11 years old when H II died, so I don't know much more on that period, on the other hand, I know M 6 is doing quite well and all Morocco is enjoying the highways, the hospitals, Tanger med and the futur Nador west med...

http://www.maroc-finance.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=863:tanger-tetouan&catid=190:regions&Itemid=278

God bless Morrocco!

Thats the only sensible thing you've said.


Sorry Izek, This is the last time I answer adamelstar (I hate nationalism)

You seems to like talking about past, so let's talk about past...

Tetouan before H II was the most industrialised city of Morocco, thanks to the Spanish and was the administrative capital of the country after Rabat (second most powerful city in taking decisions).

So why are you talking about H II? Everybody knows that he hated the North, besides that, he did nothing to improve the economy of Morocco nor to fight illetracy..., he only increased his own wealth and destroyed not only Northern Morocco's economy and infrastructure but the economy of the whole country!

Miserable??? You must be confusing Tetouan's region with an other one :nuts:
I remember you that Marinasmir, Restinga, Kabila, Cabo Negro... were built under H II So we wasn't that "miserable"!!



I repeat, all the Moroccan cities were dirty and neglected during that period Tangier, Tetuan, Fes and Casablanca...
And many Moroccans will agree with me on that!!

By the way, I was 11 years old when H II died, so I don't know much more on that period, on the other hand, I know M 6 is doing quite well and all Morocco is enjoying the highways, the hospitals, Tanger med and the futur Nador west med...



Thats the only sensible thing you've said.


Sorry Izek, This is the last time I answer adamelstar (I hate nationalism)
Désolé de répondre en Français mais la ça s'impose...
Comment peut-on dire que Casablanca était négliger sous HII alors qu'on y a construit la deuxième mosquée la plus grande du monde...C'est vraiment affirmer des énormités que de dire cela.
J'avais aussi 11 ans lors de la mort de Hassan II. De plus Casablanca, FES, Rabat n'étaient pas négliger sous Hassan II et je vais te le montrer juste avec l'exemple des premières autoroutes du Maroc qui sont Casa Rabat, Rabat Fes...
Sans oublier pour Casa la Grande Mosquée, les Grands Hotels à Fes qui datent de l'époque de HII, les lignes de trains.,Agadir complètement reconstruit par Hassan II après le tremblement de terre de 1960, Marrakech érigé en destination Touristique de premier plan déja à cette époque., le Sahara qui n'était qu'un désert vide...
Dire que toutes les villes du Maroc étaient négligés sous HII est faux, désolé de te contredire!
C'est justement en confrontant les idées et les arguments que les débats sont plus interressant , non pas en déformant les propos des autres.
Tu fais plusieurs amalgames et tu déformes mes propos, je penses que ce n'est qu'un malentendu et que tu as simplement fais une erreur d'interprétation!
Qu'est- ce que le nationalisme à avoir la dedans?
Ce que j'ai voulu dire c'est que Tetouan et sa région ont évolué par rapport au temps de HII ou la région était moins dévellopé que le reste du Maroc( désolé c'est la réalité)
Maintenant tout est transformé et les choses vont dans le bon sens et c'est trés agréable car le dévellopement se propage dans toutes les régions ce qui est bon signe pour l'avenir!


Evite les jugements érronés sur la sensibilité et le Nationalisme qui sont deux choses qui n'ont rien avoir avec mon propos et avec le sujet.
Pour finir tu détestes le Nationalisme Hors le Maroc et le monde Arable de manière général ( mais encore plus quand il s'agit du Maroc) se distingue par un Nationalisme sans faille (Istiqlal,Corcas,Monarchie, Sahara Occidental...)


Amicalement,

Nayda! :banana: :banana2: :lol:
Calmoooooooooooos!

Some older fotos i took in July 2008

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Nice to see you BTW, and nicely taken pictures. Unfortunately, I feel ashamed when I see some parts of Fèz which are about to collapse. Finally, they are starting to revive it little by little, but it needs a very important maintenance process.

The aerial tramway project will undoubtedly give it a new look ;)

Will fes ever boom like Marrakech ? All I have to say I hope fes gets better and good luck to city of fes and its region
I never been there so I have no opinions I have heard horror stories good stories boring stories regular stories etc about fes but I do plan to visit
these pics only represent a tiny fraction of fez more pic please !! la ville nouvelle for example would be nice and any new suburban areas being built like other moroccan cities ??

Will fes ever boom like Marrakech ?

Fes will hopefully improve, but please do not follow the path of Marrakech. Fes should save its traditonal charakter and should not be turned into a Disney Land for European and American snop people. I like Fes like it is!

Fes will hopefully improve, but please do not follow the path of Marrakech. Fes should save its traditonal charakter and should not be turned into a Disney Land for European and American snop people. I like Fes like it is!

Marrakech is still a traditional city, even if it' gets more and more developped, it's people are still traditional and it's medina too! :)

Some pics I've taken this octuber in fes saiss airport...

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and the train station...

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm220/ahmednewkirk/SDC10233.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm220/ahmednewkirk/SDC10232.jpg

hmmm nice train station, looks like Marrakech's one! :D

Better than I expected, thanks for the pics. No pics of the interior of the airport ? :)

Better than I expected, thanks for the pics. No pics of the interior of the airport ? :)

Les aeroports sont biens , j'en ai jamais douté moi! ;)

Wow ! The train station doesn't look nice. It looks OUTSTANDING ! Even better than Marrakech one in my view (and as you know, I'm marrakchi :D). I really didn't expect It would look that nice. Great surprise. Thanks zefreaky ;)

PS : Think about posting that pic in the corresponding thread :)

Better than I expected, thanks for the pics. No pics of the interior of the airport ? :)

no, camaras aren't allowed inside the airport, in seaports neither btw...

Fes is not boring! do You know Fes and his around? I think you don't know!
Tetouan was the dirtiest city of Morrocco when HII was King... Fez is class not tetouan, casa ... But Tetouan has a beautiful medina I think.

THe most beautiful and interesant cities of morrocco are the four imperial's cities:
FES
Marrakech
Rabat
Meknes

Secondly we can add Ouarzazate, Tangier but not Agadir!

Every city is beautifull, from Tanger to Lagouira !

no, camaras aren't allowed inside the airport, in seaports neither btw...

Sorry but this is complete bullshit, why on earth would they impose such a futile law ? Especially that it's not the case in Mohammed V Airport, etc.

Sorry but this is complete bullshit, why on earth would they impose such a futile law ? Especially that it's not the case in Mohammed V Airport, etc.

Actually I'm not sure about taken photos in the airport, but in seaport yes it is prohibited, from the car entrance door untill you get into the boat...

Actually I'm not sure about taken photos in the airport, but in seaport yes it is prohibited, from the car entrance door untill you get into the boat...

Sounds more logical to me ;)

no, camaras aren't allowed inside the airport, in seaports neither btw...

Moroccan law?

Because no else in the world such a law exists! Well, maybe in North Korea neither :lol::lol:

It's really a pity that they are not updating pictures with high quality. The quality shown now is nealy useless for all that tiny paths and and houses in the old medina. I really love medina of Fes it's so different from our "western life"..

true and that's why i love it too.. the medina kept everything the same as it was when it first built.. it's considered i live museum.. i just wish responsibles share the same opinion with us and help the medina get improved.. well they did something but it's not enough.. it needs more !!