http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/898wtc_hotel_2.jpg

An Artist's rendering shows the new Central World Hotel Bangkok and Convention Centre, due to be completed in early 2006. Located at the Central World Plaza complex at Bangkok's prime Ratchaprasong intersection, the new tower designed by Tandem and BBG of New York rises 189 metres from street level to the top corwn.

Central World Hotel Bangkok & Convention Centre

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Thailand's Central Hotels & Resorts has selected the design of the Central World Hotel Bangkok & Convention Centre, the Group's future flagship hotel due to be completed in early 2006, designed as a collaborative effort between Tandem and BBG, New York.

"The Lotus Blooms Over Bangkok" is the architecture at the top of the tower unfolds into a dramatic outer shell, culminating in two elongated arches. This imagery is inspired from a young lotus flower blooming high above the water in the "Patumwan" area where the hotel is located. "Patumwan" in Thai means "Lotus Eden". This graceful architectural gesture evokes the harmony born out of the disorder and will become an immediate urban landmark.

The hotel tower is integrated into a multipurpose podium. In addition to the hotel public floors, this large volume houses parking floors and extensive convention facilities. This state-of-art convention center features 20,000 square meter convention hall and numerous function rooms. These facilities, easily accessed from the street via a dedicated bank of elevators, are situated in close proximity to the hotel ballroom and meeting rooms allowing the two facilities to be used concurrently.

The iconic hotel tower soars high above the podium to take its place as a landmark building in the Bangkok skyline. The mass of the podium is a succession of concentric circles layered around the tower shaft. The glass and metal cylinder rises directly from the street to a height of approximately 189 meters. Its architectural expression consists of an arrangement of horizontal banding overlaid onto a strong vertical framework. Dynamism and the play of transparency versus solidity are the hallmarks of the overall design. These elements combine to create a building whose lightness belies its large size of 57 floors.

Group' executive vice president, Mr. Gerd Steeb, said "The dramatic figure of the Central World Hotel Bangkok will be instantly recognized amid the busy skyline of Bangkok and that means the first
achievement in our Marketing mission".


Source : Asia Pacific News : Apr 6, 2004

so that's the final design for the WTC hotel??

will it be build?

Yes, They'r building it. The foundation is now finished and the tower is rising from ground level.

seems most of the facade they use stainless-steel panel right? like petronus tower.

Yep, Aluminum Cladding and Glass facade...just like the Petronas..., ;)

very cool.
BKK needs more building like this.

very cool.
BKK needs more building like this.


Every City needs it...;)

AWESOME. with the Central World office bldg., these two will be a great landmark in shopping district of Pathumwan. :)

Can't wait to see the real one.

Can't wait to see the real one.


Me too.....but still have to wait...:D

just hope that they will not reduce the floors like central world tower :D

I realized that the Office tower was reduced only a floor, I think because to cut cost and spend more on the Hotel tower.....;)

AWESOME DIAGRAM!!
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=29022&drawingID=23847
by someone ssp.com illustrator

Dang!!...That was fast!!!, did u amde that BIG?

nope ... ไปตั้งกระทู้ให้ใครก็ได้มาช่วยเขียนให้หน่อย ;) http://www.skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=626468#post626468

Alright, I will.....;)

and hey Big, the Spire Height is 189 not 179....

and hey Big, the Spire Height is 189 not 179....

i told him already ;) 189 is to the roof and 235 as i calculated is to the top spire.

:D

"สี่พระยาก่อสร้าง-เคเท็ค"ซิวเรียบ เพชรน้ำเอกตึกเซ็นทรัล2.5พันล.

"สี่พระยาก่อสร้าง" ส้มหล่นได้งานยักษ์ คว้างานก่อสร้างศูนย์การค้าเซ็นทรัลเวิลด์ พลาซา 2.5 พันล้าน เผยเซ็นทรัลพัฒนาโหมโรงหนัก ขยายพื้นที่รองรับตลาดทำเลไข่แดงกรุงเทพฯ หลังจับมือเค-เท็ครับเหมารายใหญ่ลุยสร้างออฟฟิศบิลดิ้งมาแล้วย่านราชประสงค์

นายกอบชัย จิราธิวัฒน์ กรรมการผู้จัดการใหญ่ บริษัท เซ็นทรัลพัฒนา จำกัด (มหาชน) เปิดเผยว่า ได้เซ็นสัญญาให้บริษัท สี่พระยาก่อสร้าง จำกัด เป็นผู้รับเหมาก่อสร้างศูนย์การค้าเซ็นทรัลเวิลด์ พลาซา มูลค่า 2,500 ล้านบาท เพื่อขยายพื้นที่ในศูนย์การค้าเซ็นทรัลเวิลด์ พลาซา สี่แยกราชประสงค์ ด้านติดกับห้าง ISETAN ซึ่งเป็นงานเฟสแรก จะแล้วเสร็จในเดือนธันวาคม 2548

เซ็นทรัลพัฒนาประกาศว่า จะพัฒนาให้ศูนย์การค้าเซ็นทรัลเวิลด์ พลาซา เป็นศูนย์การค้าครบวงจร mixed use ระดับโลก และเป็น landmark ที่สวยที่สุดใจกลางกรุงเทพฯ จึงต้องคัดเลือกบริษัทก่อสร้างที่มีประสบการณ์สูงเข้ามาร่วมพัฒนา เช่นเดียวกับก่อนหน้านี้ที่ให้บริษัทเค-เท็คก่อสร้างโครงการอาคารสำนักงาน Central World Tower ในพื้นที่เดียวกันมาแล้ว

"เฟสแรกที่ก่อสร้างจะเพิ่มพื้นที่ศูนย์การค้าและพื้นที่จอดรถรวมกว่า 140,000 ตารางเมตร เมื่อก่อสร้างเสร็จแล้วจะมีพื้นที่จอดรถเพิ่มขึ้นอีก 3,000 กว่าคัน และมีพื้นที่รองรับร้านค้าอีก 80,000 ตารางเมตร" นายกอบชัยกล่าว

ด้านนายวัชระ จิรังบุญกุล ประธานบริษัท สี่พระยาก่อสร้าง จำกัด กล่าวสั้นๆ ว่า โครงการนี้จะพลิกวงการค้าปลีกในไทย ด้วยความแปลกใหม่ของสถาปัตยกรรม เพราะเป็นศูนย์การค้าที่ใหญ่และครบวงจร งานก่อสร้างค่อนข้างเร่งพอสมควรเพื่อเปิดให้ทันในอีก 2 ปี

ที่สำคัญทางเซ็นทรัลยังได้เตรียมก่อสร้างถนน 6 เลน เชื่อมระหว่างถนนพระรามที่ 1 กับถนนราชดำริล้อมรอบโครงการ พร้อมกับก่อสร้างพื้นที่จอดรถ 7,500 คัน และรองรับปริมาณรถหมุนเวียนเข้าออกได้ 35,000 คันต่อวัน

จุดเด่นคือการสร้าง sky walk ทางเดินเชื่อมจากสถานีรถไฟฟ้า 2 สถานีคือชิดลมและสยาม ที่จะเข้าถึงตัวศูนย์การค้าและอาคารสำนักงาน เหมือนกับอาคารสยามเซ็นเตอร์ นอกจากนี้ ยังมีการสร้างสะพานลอยคนข้ามเชื่อมต่อกับศูนย์การค้าเกษร อีกด้วย

Wow. BIG BIG BIG Plan came out of Central Pattana Lately......Nice and very Smart Idea...:)

chad ,นายว่า central world plaza จะปรับเปลี่ยนรึปล่าวอะ แบบ renovate ด้านนอก กะด้านในใหม่หมดเลยอะ แบบว่าตอนนี้แค่เปลี่ยนชื่อป้าย กะเปลี่ยนเสาให้เป็นสีขาว กะห้องน้ำแค่เนี้ย

archstudent, you're right. That diagram is amazing. I just hope the building will be that cool too. ;)

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=29022&drawingID=23847
very nice diagram.
Central really has a great plan for this project to compete with the mighty Siam Paragon.

A unique and nice looking tower is good advertising for the business that occupies the building.. same as with Kasikorn Bank HQ. And that's advertising that only cost money during construction. :)

BTW, the diagram pic came very quickly!!

Central World Tower will only be 45 storeys tall?? :wallbash:

chad ,นายว่า central world plaza จะปรับเปลี่ยนรึปล่าวอะ แบบ renovate ด้านนอก กะด้านในใหม่หมดเลยอะ แบบว่าตอนนี้แค่เปลี่ยนชื่อป้าย กะเปลี่ยนเสาให้เป็นสีขาว กะห้องน้ำแค่เนี้ย


ทยอยเปลี่ยน....ตอนนี้ เสาเปลี่ยนหมดแล้วยกเว้นชั้น 5 ที่ยังไม่ได้เปลี่ยน.....:) แล้วก็ร้านค้าจะทยอยปรับปรุงเช่นกัน..ให้เข้ากะ คอนเซ็ป ของ Central Pattana ที่มีไว้เพื่อให้เป็นแนวทางเดียวกัน

[QUOTE=Jo]A unique and nice looking tower is good advertising for the business that occupies the building..[QUOTE]


It's a Hotel Jo, not office Tower....:D

haha.. yes okay, but it's good advertising for Central :)

yes, very good corporrated indentity...:)

THE FIRST UPDATE.. 15-04-04

http://www.student.chula.ac.th/~45340461/wthotel-15-04-04.jpg

seems like foundation work are finished ... they are preparing to rise from underground..

Hey BIG, Thats not teh hotel...Thats the extension part of the mall...the hotel tower is on your right hand side...:)

oh.. sorry for my mistake :D ... OK ..that's the update of extension mall :D :D

Hey BIG, Thats not teh hotel...Thats the extension part of the mall...the hotel tower is on your right hand side...:)

โรงแรมนี่มันติดกับริม site เลยรึป่าวอะ เห็นมันเนียนไปหมดเลยดูไม่ค่อยออก :D

I had to say it again. I am very excited about this project.


:drunk:

I had to say it again. I am very excited about this project.


:drunk:

not only you... ME TOO!!.. i hope they will build with the same as the render.

not only you... ME TOO!!.. i hope they will build with the same as the render.

Dont worry, this is the ONLY design of the tower...if not this one...which it could be...;)

This is it...sorry for sucks pics, They were taken from my sister's cam....

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/898imgp0498.jpg

See the line of the pilling pillars?, thats the edge of the Hotel Podium...

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/898imgp0497.jpg

I'm not quiet sure exactly about where the site is.Can I see it from a distance?

Well.....obviously u can see it from above angle like my place, Baiyoke II or someother skyscrapers around...:)

Awesome! Design is excellent, quite unique:)

Very Very unique GrayX...;)

http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/5286dsc04997.jpg

Apr 25, 2004 :

Note : The 4th crain at the WTC erected at the site of teh Hotel tower after the previous one appeard at the site of the Shopping Center Expension parcel.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05228.JPG

I can't believe how many construction sites there are around this area. And Chad has ringside view - lucky man!! :)

Haha.....There are actually constructions every where around town JO,...no matter where you looking from.., always one or two sites..:)

Sure is :) ..but here you got lots and massive ones like Pratunam Complex, Central World Hotel, Central World Tower, Siam Paragon, Platinum Fashion Mall, giant tv screens popping up all over the place etc :D

Not so much on the north side of Petchaburi Rd though

Well....appearently I can see Le Metro Condominium and the future Central Rama IX.....:)

..and in the future the transit link to NBIA?! ..and, I hope, Baiyoke 3 :)

Nha, There is no more Baiyoke Group's Landlard around that area.....which means, there wont be Baiyoke III...:(

May 18, 2004 :

Note : Foundation is now ready, will start rising soon...:)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05770.JPG

what is that green cladding building under contruction on that last picture???

Thats The under major upgrading progress "City Center Mall" next to the Amari Watergate Hotel...:)

It's not cladding BTW , just that scarf -folding that prevents the dust from the site....:)

great ;) , that building looked kinda old but they had a cool glass elevator though, hope it will be nice :)

WTC Hotel construction happened to quickly, not long ago I wasn't even aware they had shosena design for i and now we have a foundation for it!

Uh, that thing in front is...??

Thats The under major upgrading progress "City Center Mall" next to the Amari Watergate Hotel...:)

It's not cladding BTW , just that scarf -folding that prevents the dust from the site....:)

cool!! they're finally upgrading the City Centre building. I remember the basement level of that building used to be a popular place for "Suki".
Chad do you have rendering of the new facade?

very excited about the CW hotel, seems the piling nearly finished.

the new facade, they will use the Aluminum-Carbon cladding board and glass...:)

May 27, 2004 :

Note : The 2nd crain is now being installed on the site of the hotel it's self

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310DSC05927.JPG

this hotel will be a nice compliment to Baiyoke II

It will rise fast after done that crain installation progress....:cool:

June 10, 2004 ;

Note : currently 3 tower crains working night and day at the site

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310paragose_102.JPG

That's good.So we can see it sooner.

U can also see some pillars rising at the coner of the mall too...

U can also see some pillars rising at the coner of the mall too...


At the yellow pipe-lines...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/500/1310paragose_102.JPG

Oh yes I saw it.:)

Fast huh?..;), I'm sure it will be twice faster after the completion of the office tower..:okay:

So excited !!

Me too !!!...:D

it would be nice if WTC shopping mall's roof would add a green nice garden with flowers and trees when this baby comes up , the roof looks horrible at WTC shopping mall now

It is parts of the project of Siam Paragon, The Pride of Bangkok

It is parts of the project of Siam Paragon, The Pride of Bangkok


I think u got something wrong big time, This is not part of Siam Paragon Project. This is part of the Central World Plaza Project (former WTC), Siam Paragon's main compettitor.

it would be nice if WTC shopping mall's roof would add a green nice garden with flowers and trees when this baby comes up , the roof looks horrible at WTC shopping mall now
agree and same go for many buildings in Bangkok.

This looks really really cool! I like the top.

Jul 26, 2004 :

Note : 3rd tower crain at the site erected!!!!

http://img56.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC06877.jpg

Excellent, this is my favourite Bangkok project at the moment.

The design is fabulous doesnt it...:okay:

Chad, you mean "isn't it" :)

oh yeh.

Aug 9, 2004 :

Note : The 4th crain is now rising!!!! :ekk: :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC07089.jpg

The Sign :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC07090.jpg

The Sign :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC07090.jpg

So we can enjoy the construction for 2 more years :cheers:

So is this for CWP or the hotel? cos it says only 50 storey.:?

Yes, The Hotel structure it's self situated on a 7 Storey retail mall...:)

oh ! I see ..cheating huh !! 55555555555

actually, that would make the building taller since mall-ceilling is higher than typical hotel floor...;)

Sep 28, 2004 :

I dont know what exactly going on there but looks very busy with 5 tower crains!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC08088copy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC08089copy.jpg

very busy indeed !!

Oct 25, 2004 :

Note : SO MANY cranes !!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC08514copy.jpg

Nov 13, 2004 :

Note ; Will try to go to the site later on, but for now just have a look at those crains on the site !!! :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC08942copy.jpg

I cant see all of them, but it looks like 7 or 8?

There are 6 crains at the site..all green, the yellow ones in that pic are The Platinum Fashion Complex's crains.

Nov 13, 2004 :

Note ; Will try to go to the site later on, but for now just have a look at those crains on the site !!! :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC08942copy.jpg

Thanks Khun Chad. I hope the tower will grow up soon. :)

does anyone know the expected due date? hopefully the construction will speed up tremendously because the WTC office building is almost finish...

this building is one of my most favorite buidlings in the world!

anyway.. is the central world trade plaza and siam square going to have a major renovation since it's surrounded with all classy modern building? Plus.. MBK already had one!

Central World Plaza is going to be renovated for sure. I think they are planning on starting it next year.
There have been proposals for renovating Siam Square which can be seen in www.2bangkok.com
I think that will be harder to organise though because Siam Square is leased out to many different tenants.
I dont really like some of the redesign plans for Siam Square, mainly because they want to cover it up and I like it when you can walk around there in the open air. hot, but nice.

Central World Plaza is going to be renovated for sure. I think they are planning on starting it next year.
There have been proposals for renovating Siam Square which can be seen in www.2bangkok.com
I think that will be harder to organise though because Siam Square is leased out to many different tenants.
I dont really like some of the redesign plans for Siam Square, mainly because they want to cover it up and I like it when you can walk around there in the open air. hot, but nice.

Do you have link in 2bangkok.com? I cant find where is it in there.:?

does anyone know the expected due date? hopefully the construction will speed up tremendously because the WTC office building is almost finish...

this building is one of my most favorite buidlings in the world!

anyway.. is the central world trade plaza and siam square going to have a major renovation since it's surrounded with all classy modern building? Plus.. MBK already had one!


OK, I think there are some misunderstandings.

Let see, Central World Hotel and Central World Plaza+Central World Tower are Practically different owner, Central Hotel and Resorts and Central Pattana.
They are related in a way, yes. But both got differents set listing own firm and directors of boards.

So, that means Central World Hotel still has to pay the rental fees of the land area which is the location of the Hotel to Central Pattana, the owner of the whole complex.

Despite that, the completion of two towers actually have nothing to do with eachother in one or another way., The early 2006 is the expectation of completion of the Hotel., while the office tower will be completed very soon from now on...:)

They are seperate companies but theyre owned by the same people.
like AIS and Shin Corp.

Pon, one of the proposals can be seen at http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/buildings/arch2004/architect2004.shtml on the bottom of the page. Its just a proposal though, as far as I have heard there are no plans for renovation.

They are seperate companies but theyre owned by the same people.
like AIS and Shin Corp.

Pon, one of the proposals can be seen at http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/buildings/arch2004/architect2004.shtml on the bottom of the page. Its just a proposal though, as far as I have heard there are no plans for renovation.

Thank you !!

[QUOTE=Hitesh]They are seperate companies but theyre owned by the same people.
like AIS and Shin Corp.

QUOTE]


But not practically, same Family but differrent people.

Pon, one of the proposals can be seen at http://www.2bangkok.com/2bangkok/buildings/arch2004/architect2004.shtml on the bottom of the page. Its just a proposal though, as far as I have heard there are no plans for renovation.

Funny thing is that, the renovation on Siam Square has already done, the fountain and square has been re-constructed, The Event Square also renovated by put the transformed tent on the roof structure.

:o.... alright.. thank you na kub for the info about the wtc

the "siam square" i was talking about is the old green building that is connected to Discovery Center.. It would be awesome if it gets renovated.

That's Siam Center ;)

Personally I like it with its green facade that stands out from other buildings and even the large advertising on it.
BTW those ads on its facade, are they of the 'page flipping' or static kind?

ok, i didnt know that. I haven't been to siam square since july and didnt read anything about the renovation.

That's Siam Center ;)

Personally I like it with its green facade that stands out from other buildings and even the large advertising on it.
BTW those ads on its facade, are they of the 'page flipping' or static kind?


Yes, "Tri-ads"..:)

ok, i didnt know that. I haven't been to siam square since july and didnt read anything about the renovation.

There was a news in Thai newspaper last year on the renovation by the leaser that currently leasing the Siam Square from Chula Longkorn Property.

Yes, "Tri-ads"..:)
Oh so that's what they are called?! Thanks

Even in this day of huge facade mounted tv screens I still think tri-ads look a little futuristic :)

Yep, especially when it's moving...:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/IMGP0937.jpg

I think that's awesome. It's even larger than your TV :D

So there are two or three of them, right?

Anyway, I think the stair advertising is less good though... makes it look cheap or tacky or something.. just my opinion

I think that's awesome. It's even larger than your TV :D

So there are two or three of them, right?

Anyway, I think the stair advertising is less good though... makes it look cheap or tacky or something.. just my opinion


There are 3 of them.

The Stair ad?, infact it also cause some confusion while walking up aswell....:dizzy:

Thats the biggest tri-ad i've ever seen!

not so long from now, Aqua....There will be the world Biggest Tri-ad board on the Thai Airways HQ on Vibhavadee-Rangsit Road being built by Matching Studio (the owner of the Giant screen infront of the WTC).....;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/CTWC.jpg

nice rendering..
the wtc hotel looks different from what i expected though... but it's still nice :)

so they changed the design?

not so long from now, Aqua....There will be the world Biggest Tri-ad board on the Thai Airways HQ on Vibhavadee-Rangsit Road being built by Matching Studio (the owner of the Giant screen infront of the WTC).....;)

You don't see them anymore in Los Angeles..

I just heard the news that CU will renovate all the facade in Siam Square, starting from the curved one onn the Patumwan intersection.
It'll be translucent glass curtain wall with media projected on it and also ads stickers.

They'll begin construction next year if I was not mistaken.

thats very good news.
it will be a nice looking area when the art museum is completed on the opposite side in a few years.

so they changed the design?


I dont think so.

I think they have man.
The original rendering has the building more circular looking and one of the 'fins' are taller than the other.
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/898wtc_hotel_2.jpg

What can I say, That rendering above (with the Office Tower) is not the rendering for the hotel, lots of mistaken occurs.

The Proportion of the complex is not evenright, just look and see that the Hotel is facing wrong site and it will not extended out from the main complex that much.

Seems funny.

atfirst i thought they changed the rendering too.. but then i assumed that the first rendering is probably misleading.. the reason why the first fin is taller is probably because it's closer to the "viewer".

What can I say, That rendering above (with the Office Tower) is not the rendering for the hotel, lots of mistaken occurs.

The Proportion of the complex is not evenright, just look and see that the Hotel is facing wrong site and it will not extended out from the main complex that much.

Seems like u fooled by the rendition-mistaken Hitest..;).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/CTWC.jpg

some people say the first rendering is wrong, some say the second.
if u want my opinion, i think the second rendering sucks.
i wouldnt be surprised if they changed the design to get more useable floor space out of the building, it wouldnt be the first time a building's architectural integrity was compromised in the name of higher profits.

I'm still telling you here Hitesh, They did not changed the design., What made u think they changed it anyway, so funny to see how u reacted to referances so sensitively. Without suring anything, u already scream just like you know so well or may be you just accord to your self too much?

Aah.. the tower looks a lot better in the original rendering. I sure hope it's just the new rendering that is messed up :(

I'm still telling you here Hitesh, They did not changed the design., What made u think they changed it anyway, so funny to see how u reacted to referances so sensitively. Without suring anything, u already scream just like you know so well or may be you just accord to your self too much?
no i wasnt screaming anything, it just looks different, im sure even you can see that.
the original rendering shows the building is circular whilst the second shows it as more of an oval shape.
and im not Thaksin where I think I am always correct, in fact that is far from the truth. If you explain where or how I am wrong I will be the first one to admit my mistake.
In this case however, I think the pictures speak for themselves right?

I was under the impression that the architect used the same design as another (unsuccessful competition entry) design of a building in Dubai.
The building is quite 'round' as shown in this rendering:

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~passean/centralworldhotel1.JPG

Dec 28, 2004 :

Note : The Core is rising.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC00039copy.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC00038copy.jpg

This building is going to be awesome and a landmark when it done.

now it will go up fast

Yay it's rising!

วันนี้ผ่านเห็นชั้นล่างพร้อมให้บริการทุกเมื่อเลยอ่ะ
นึกถึงช่วงหน้าหนาว ลมเย็นๆใส่โค้ตไปเดินโต้ลมที่ลานข้างหน้า.. อรึมมม ให้บรรยากาศเมืองนอกดีแท้
( แต่อย่าหันไปมองฝั่งวัดปทุมละกัน เดี๋ยวจะรำลึกได้ว่ายังอยู่เมืองไทย อิอิ )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/centralworldmasterplan.jpg

wow!!! zen expansion project is so huge!!!

when does it going to be finished?

2007.

I was under the impression that the architect used the same design as another (unsuccessful competition entry) design of a building in Dubai.
The building is quite 'round' as shown in this rendering:

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~passean/centralworldhotel1.JPG


They did not changed the design, as recall for another version of the rendition which proved the perspective view visioanary-miscorrection of the round shape.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/central.jpg

as lowered the angle, u will see the building is not 'round' since the first place.

Jan 9, 2005 :

Note : Crain Scape!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/DSC00002copy1.jpg

5 cranes? wow!

They did not changed the design, as recall for another version of the rendition which proved the perspective view visioanary-miscorrection of the round shape.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/central.jpg

as lowered the angle, u will see the building is not 'round' since the first place.

OK thanks for clarifying that Chad. I saw another rendering of a Dubai building posted here sometime ago and thought it's the same design.
Yes it does look different from a new angle.

5 cranes? wow!

no, 6.

OK thanks for clarifying that Chad. I saw another rendering of a Dubai building posted here sometime ago and thought it's the same design.
Yes it does look different from a new angle.

Yep, DMCC Tower was designed by same Architect; BBG/BBGM New York.

Version 1 :

http://63.240.68.115/FirmFiles/14/images/DubaiMixed%20%28small%29%2Ejpg

Version II :

http://www.ameinfo.com/images/news/2/1732-Almas200903.jpg

A quick comparison, quite different lah...:)

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~passean/centralworldhotel1.JPG

Damn, they should have made that first version of the DMCC in Bangkok!!

I think the Dubai building version 1 look quite similar to CW hotel, view from the back, minus the podium. Ah well... optical illusion. yeh that would have been nice if they build something like that in BKK :)

Look quite stylish..
But not so elegent as the 1st one.

A quick comparison, quite different lah...:)

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~passean/centralworldhotel1.JPG


I am confused. :?
It's only 180 meters high? not 235m?

Yes, as I said at First it's Going to be 180 meters. But "Archstudent", one of our forummers concerns over the heigh tthat he was quite sute that 180 is the number of the last floor plate and if including the crown, total is equal 235 meters.

Never The less, my self still think it's going to be 180 meters as the news reported.

Yes, as I said at First it's Going to be 180 meters. But "Archstudent", one of our forummers concerns over the heigh tthat he was quite sute that 180 is the number of the last floor plate and if including the crown, total is equal 235 meters.

Never The less, my self still think it's going to be 180 meters as the news reported.


Oh I see....
So it will be a little shorter than the office na.

too bad, Bangkok should have more bldgs. over 200m.

Jan 23, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/DSC00234.jpg

Feb 20, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/DSC00786.jpg

Feb 20, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/DSC00786.jpg


Wow.It is rising!!
Thanks for update. :)

Feb 22, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/DSC00816.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/DSC00836.jpg

Petchburi Road Side :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/DSC00837.jpg

Srapathum Side :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/DSC00842.jpg

awesome model! :eek:

the hotel is rising out of the ground now..

The hotel looks so small from the model.

The hotel is smaller than the rendering we have seen before?? :(
So the height of it should be around 170m? (Compared to 205m of CWT)

Nice model, Chad.. although hotel doesn't look as slender as the rendering.
I like the new 'glass box' addition to Zen.

The hotel is actually around as tall as the office, but it's smaller. Sounds reasonal though since the office tower's footprint is gigantual.

If you cant really think of the shape of the hotel, think of 2 joined tubular that formed into one cyclindral shape.

The hotel is actually around as tall as the office


Good.
The model is displayed in the lobby of the office tower?
I will go see it when I have a chance.

they look so clean

I saw this model 2 days ago. The hotel does look rather short and definately not as nice as its rendering. It seem that this tower would no longer posess darker tone surface but grey and green.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/centralworldmodel231.jpg

and that loop thing doesn't seem to be as loopy anymore. I guess the origional looked too different from the WTC

:bash:!

:bash:

It looks the same, just the angle.

:wallbash:
I wish the fin was taller, would be as impressive as the CWT crown.

I think the crown it's self is high, but seems like they increased 2-3 floors on the top.

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~passean/centralworldhotel1.JPG

It looks better in the rendering.

the rendering drawing looks idealized & slimmer and taller, and the model looks a bit stockier and squatter, but I think the model design looks great anyway :) BUT it would have been nice if the angle of the loop was taller & sharper to create a much more noticable bold dramatic flair :yes:

anyway, I really like the way the line of the loop continues down the building to create a harmonic integrated design :cheers1:

i just hope they light up the corwn like how they light up the wtc's crown. or it will be cool if the whole fin is lit up :D

the rendering drawing looks idealized & slimmer and taller, and the model looks a bit stockier and squatter, but I think the model design looks great anyway :) BUT it would have been nice if the angle of the loop was taller & sharper to create a much more noticable bold dramatic flair :yes:
I completely agree. It's still very good but it lost a lot of the dramatic flair that made it so outstanding :)

Chad how can you say the rendering and the model is the same design. look at it.

The crown in the rendering is quite big with total height around 13-14 floors but in the model it was smaller...around 3-4 floors.
And also in the rendering it has more feeling of metalic facade. Anyway it is way nicer than amari watergate and novotel siam.:)

Chad how can you say the rendering and the model is the same design. look at it.


It is, but they increased 2 levels on the top. Thats why the crown looks shorter due to totaled levels on it.

"If" two floors havnt been increased.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/centralworldmodel23143.jpg

That crown will be a talking point in Bangkok I'm sure

Mar 13, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bank/DSC01123.jpg

Mar 27, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bank/DSC01409.jpg

Apr 2, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bank/DSC01518.jpg

Apr 26,, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bank/DSC01683.jpg

Thats the podium part of the hotel right?

hope it goes up as fast as the wtc

Thats the podium part of the hotel right?


More likely.

Apr 27, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bank/DSC01773.jpg

I didn't check this thread for a while. This thing is growing :okay:

rising rising.........

Good job :applause: :lock:

finally some tangible progress!

Look very beautuful !! We want more Modern structures in BKK.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/veranda/DSC01954big.jpg

I can count this photo has above 28 cranes....oh shit















:jk:

wow! lots of progress

cant wait til its finish..............
this building will totally be an icon..........

May 20, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/veranda/DSC03735.jpg

it's huge................
that includes the new extension i guess...............

The tower part is what risen highest rightnow, others are expansion part.

ic...............
it should be done by 2007 right???...............
two more years............

correct.

เค้าเพิ่มจำนวนชั้นอีก 2 ชั้นจริงๆเหรอครับ ??

ทำไมในโมเดลที่ไปดูมา มันเตี้ยกว่า Office เยอะจังเลยหง่ะ :tongue3:

เอารูปมาฝากครับ รูปซ้ายแบบเก่า รูปขวาเป็นแบบใหม่ที่เค้าโปรโมตในเวบ ( มีผักชีโรยด้วยอ่ะ เก๋ซะ )


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y120/thinkpop/Central.jpg

It's the Perspective Angle that makes two images different., Furthermore two pictures are showing different sides of the towers which may occur some provokative nad misiarable of viewing perspection.

the left looks high and graceful.....................
the right is fat and chubby.............
i dont know why they look different...........

..

The circular tube dissappeared becouse they add two floors to covered it up.

June 2, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/veranda/DSC03919.jpg

^
from this view, it looks pretty dense..

Chad,This Building isn't 57 floors,but lower,you agree with me?

Chad,This Building isn't 57 floors,but lower,you agree with me?

ผมเห็นด้วยครับ เค้าน่าจะ redesign ใหม่จริงๆนั่นแหล่ะ เพราะโมเดล 3 มิติที่ตั้งไว้ในออฟฟิศมันก็เป็นแบบใหม่อย่างที่เห็นจริงๆ และที่สำคัญ มันเตี้ยกว่า Office เยอะพอสมควรเลยนะครับ

เฮ้อ ... นึกว่าจะมีตึก 200m+ โผล่ขึ้นมาประดับเมืองอีกสักตึก ที่ไหนได้ แป่วอีกแย๊ว :ohno:

pop:ผมว่าทั้ง Office และ Hotel เค้า redesign ใหม่ทั้งหมดนั่นแหล่ะ เพราะในโมเดล 3 มิตินั้นฯ Office จริงๆมันเตี้ยกว่าในโมเดลประมาณ 4 ชั้น ทำให้จริงๆความสูงก็ลดลงด้วย
Original : 63 ชั้น ความสูง 235 เมตร
แบบใหม่ : 55 ชั้น ความสูง 204 เมตร
Final : 45 ชั้น ความสูง 185 เมตร

ส่วน Hotel นั้นมีติดบอกตรง Site ว่าสูง 50 ชั้น ซึ่งน่าจะสูง 180 เมตร

Oh no why don't they leave it higher and higher

Petchburi Road Side :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/Bangkok2/DSC00837.jpg


55555555 so difference for the model

i like it in the first rendering better................

will see when it reaches the fin level...;)

55555555 so difference for the model

U know why?,....because u comparing the wrong sides. The model is showing Petchburi Road side while on the contrary, the rendition is showing the side from the back.

..

the higher the fin.......
the better..........

Believe what you think people, I'm not here to urge people to believe what I said here...

Just will see when it's done.

i believe in the long fin.................
the thin tower..............

Just make it tall.

is building gonna be in the top ten height

definitly..............

Jul 21, 2005

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/London/DSC05113.jpg

Jul 30, 2005

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/London/DSC05291.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/London/DSC05293.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/London/DSC05294.jpg

Very interesting perspective... I didn't realize before that the hotel will cover a very extended land area.

So now the hotel's ready to spurt....good, good.

nice
there should be a skywalk connecting siam paragon to platinum fashion mall.. :)

,.....and then to Baiyoke Towers?, de nada :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/London/DSC05294.jpg

Wow we got a very beautiful temple there and 2 very beautiful skyscrapers here and a very big slump there.
:rofl:

It's the crown Property Bureau's Land, no one can really do anything unless the Firm them selves decide to develop something there which likely to be one very soon.

This is a very honesty from me, I dont see many slumps in Bangkok anymore, a lot less than in the 90's and this is (I believe) made it to the top 3 biggest.

Yeah...I see.
I know that we are getting better and better everyday but I can't hold my humour when seeing this picture.
:)

with regards to those little houses in the picture.
i would call them "community" rather than slum

how many of you have actually walked in there and explore the entire precinct? come on, don't judge it just by looking at those roofs. calling it slum is a little harsh here.

the part closer to Th. Ratchadamri may be a little messy but once you get in there... it's quite a cosy and safe community with all public utilities (water, electricity, sewage) supplied.

this community isn't too crowded either in my opinion. there are no smelly puddles / sewage, no filthy heaps of rubbish left uncollected, no pests teeming about and that's why it doesn't fall under the slum / shantytown category.

just that those lower-income families don't build their houses with beautiful roofs, glass facade and a marble floor lobby does not mean that we should brand it "slum". if Bangkok is all about high-end elitist estates, then I wouldn't like it anymore.

this community is not as established / well-constructed mainly because of the C/D road saga 10 to 15 years ago when the ETA wanted their land to build the 2nd-stage expressway.

Even in cities like London, Dubai or even Singapore, there are still many less well-maintained estates to be found. Sometimes, we you see along a few stretches of roads can be a lot worse than what we see in BKK.

The thing is that we do not believe in / do not attempt to hide those ugly bits of Bangkok away from the expats / tourists' eyes. Not the same can be said about other cities which I mentioned earlier. When you go to Singapore or Dubai, you confine yourself to the touristy parts of the city where everything is nice, neat and beautiful. How many Thai tourists have ever seen the not-so-nice parts that the Thai construction works in Singapore have to live in? How many of us have actually ventured out of the 'typical tourist routes'?

i take pride in Bangkok being very honest to the world not only about how we have modernised our city, albeit lagging behind some of our neighbours, but also in the many social problems or urban ills that the ciy is currently confronting.

the fact that there is:
a presently in-use palace (Wang Sa Pathum),
a Royal temple (Wat Pathumwanaram),
a modern office tower (Central World Tower),
2 world-class shopping malls (CWP / Siam Paragon)
are all lying side-by-side with this low-profile community speaks very well of a civil society that the city currently enjoys.

if we can look at things this way, we will appreciate the fabric of this city better...
Bangkok can never be a pastic city full of modern but soul-less towers, and i don't think it should try to be one...

I have, I often use the walkway inside the "community" to go to Petchburi Road from the WTC.

And I think it's really called "slum", when the government agency come to my school for some volumteery teacher they always claim the area as "slump behind Wat Pathumwanaram".

Besides, I dont really want to called it slum but thats what likely it is. " a district of a city marked by poverty and inferior living conditions" : :sleepy:

I remember going to my highschool I used to walk through that area a lot. While I don't think we should be removing or relocating this community, and as zoowatch pointed out, destroying one of the city's fabric, I think at least the area can be made more presentable w/ better sanitary conditions. I mean for the sake of the people living there.
For a start, I don't know how they resolve the drainage problems all stormwater must have been flushed directly into the canals including all domestic wastes??
And imo from a fire hazard point of view the confine spaces and the kind of building materials used are totally unacceptable. They are DEATH TRAP. What about ventilation, fire escape routes, are there any?
if this area was to catch fire.. think about the potential losses.
if there was a fire everyone would probably have to jump into the smelly canals and then they probably get toxic poison!!!
I remember there was a couple of incidents of gas tank explosions in Pratunam. What tragedy. anyway sorry for the rambling.

btw thanks for the update Chad :)

Yep...part of the city's fabric. That's why there're so many high walls in town, 'cause you can't choose your neighbourhood....

Steeb to steer firm’s overseas expansion

Industry veteran takes over from Suthikiat as company president

Suchat Sritama

Central Plaza Hotel Plc has put veteran hotelier Gerd Steeb in charge of its hotel operations to guide the company’s foreign expansion.

His new marching orders come after the company, with businesses in the hospitality and restaurant sectors, announced that former president Suthikiat Chirathivat was made chairman, paving the way for Steeb to succeed him.

Suthikiat will continue to oversee company policy and provide key strategic direction.

The group is expected to dip its toes into the hotel and restaurant business abroad but would give no details. The expansion onto foreign soil dovetails with the company’s five-year business plan, which calls for building five-star hotels in Krabi, Phuket, Pattaya and Bangkok. It will also expand the number outlets under the many restaurant chains it operates, including KFC and Pizza Hut among others.

Later this year, the company will open Central Krabi Bay Resort, a five-star resort with 192 rooms. The firm anticipates that it will be as popular as its other resorts, including the Sofitel Central Hua Hin Resort and the Central Samui Beach Resort.

Construction is already underway on Central World Hotel Bangkok, a 55-storey, five-star hotel that will boast 505 rooms and a large convention complex when opens in late 2007. The targeted market will be corporate customers, incentive groups and organisers of meetings, conventions and exhibitions.

Also, Central Wong Amat Pattaya Beach Resort will close for renovation and be turned into a five-star resort with 555 rooms. Construction will start later this year and finish in 2008.

And in Phuket, the company plans to start constructing a five-star hotel in 2007, to be completed it in 2009.

The company’s restaurants include KFC, Pizza Hut, Mister Donut, Auntie Anne’s, Baskin Robbins and Steak Hunter, all managed by its subsidiary, Central Restaurant Group Co. The company plans to increase the number of outlets to more than 500, from the current 371, an expansion that should be completed in the next two years.

Prior to his new post as president, Steeb served as executive vice president of Central Hotels & Resorts, the hospitality-management arm. The German national has more than 30 years’ experience in the hotel industry, including a 15-year stint in senior management with Accor. The group also appointed Thiradej Chirathivat senior executive vice president of company.

The eldest son of Suthikiat, Thiradej was executive director of Central Restaurants for the last 14 years.


Source : THE NATION : Aug 17, 2005

Auntie Anne’s............
Me Favorita..........!!!

^
never heard of it? what kind of food do they sell? Cake?

Pretzels.

Check out:

http://www.auntieannes.com/

^
thanks. ughh..i thought it's a Thai brand.

Hahah you get atleast two Auntie's in every Mall in Los Angeles

They got one at Pacific Terrace in Seattle.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/London/cwp2-1.jpg

Aug 26, 2005 :

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/chady/London/DSC05512.jpg

I really like the new rendering. Awesome