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EddieB317
November 3rd, 2009, 06:46 PM
Wishard Facts (wishardfacts.org) (http://www.wishardfacts.org/)

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IUPUI Land Swap
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Wishard Facts Evaluation Chart (PDF) (http://www.wishardfacts.org/evaluation-chart.pdf)

IBJ: The New Wishard
July 17, 2009 (http://www.ibj.com/weigh-in-on-the-new-wishard/PARAMS/post/6717)

The $754-million project calls for 11 stories and about 1.2 million square feet of space. It would be built just west of the current hospital, next to the Roudebush VA Medical Center, as part of a land swap with IU. Hospital officials say renovating the current facility is not practical because mechanical systems are failing and patient rooms can't accommodate modern equipment. Wishard's facility is spread over 17 buildings, many built before World War II. The new hospital would replace the former home of Larue D. Carter Memorial Hospital. The old Wishard would be used for an expansion of the IUPUI campus.







Wishard: Our Next 150 Years (http://www.wishardfacts.org/years.php)

Wishard has developed most probable-, best- and worst-case scenarios on the cost of a new Wishard. Even under the highly unlikely worst-case scenario, Wishard has adequate revenue to meet all bond obligations with no property tax increase.

The most probable-case scenario would result in $612.9 million in bonds. Under the best-case scenario, Wishard would lower bonding needed to $604.3 million using Build America Bonds included in the federal economic stimulus plan, which is intended to encourage construction projects like a new Wishard. The absolute worst-possible case, which has Wishard unable to raise any money through philanthropy and paying a full 100 basis points over the current bond rate, still leaves Wishard $6.7 million more than is needed to cover bond payments with no tax increase.

Bonding will allow $754 million for a new Wishard campus. Wishard, the Indiana University School of Medicine, Purdue University School of Pharmacy, the Regenstrief Institute, the RL Roudebush VA Medical Center and other neighbors plan to participate in a public-private initiative with a lease back provision to provide a power plant serving the area, additional parking and flexible offices on the property. These joint projects will not require bonding.

Wishard has saved more than $150 million to put toward the project. New, more efficient facilities will be 33 percent smaller and save 45 percent in utility costs, yet able to serve more patients than Wishard's current facilities.

Wishard is confident that if it acts now, it can transition into more efficient facilities before cutting or compromising services, quality and efficiency. Each year of delay will cost $53 million, and increase the risk of catastrophic failure.

New, more efficient facilities can be opened as soon as December 2013. Funding mechanisms are feasible. Commodities pricing is falling - which is good news for the total project price tag. And from a regional economic development standpoint, this major construction project will be a shot in the arm for the local economy.

Wishard hopes the research provided is compelling evidence that a new Wishard is a "win-win-win-win" for central Indiana. New facilities will allow us to continue to provide superior services to our city's citizens with no tax increase, while also operating more energy efficient, green facilities. Further, this initiative supports and advances life sciences initiatives critical to the long-term viability of our region.






IBJ: Wishard hopes to overcome taxpayer skepticism in referendum
December 2, 2009 (http://www.ibj.com/wishard-hopes-to-overcome-taxpayer-skepticism-in-referendum/PARAMS/article/10874)

When voters go to the polls on Tuesday to decide whether to OK a new $754 million hospital for Wishard Health Services, Wishard’s biggest opponent will be history.

Typically, taxpayers vote on such referenda when city leaders want to raise taxes to fund a new project.

That’s not the case for Wishard, which has advanced a plan to pay for the new hospital with no tax increase. Wishard wants taxpayers to guarantee bonds it wants to sell, so it can get much lower interest rates for the project.

That plan was won over support from a dizzying list of local business, civic and political leaders. Wishard’s leaders just hope enough people know that.

“There are very large numbers of people who are good, hard-working people, who live busy lives, and they have heard only a small amount about this project. They presume that we’re asking for a great big tax increase,” said Matt Gutwein, CEO of Wishard’s parent organization, the Health and Hospital Corp. of Marion County.

Even if they don’t presume Wishard wants a tax increase, voters still might conclude that they’ll eventually be asked to cover payment on Wishard’s bonds. Cost overruns on recent public projects, such as the Central Library renovation and Lucas Oil Stadium, have soured the mood for further government spending

“We bring up these past projects to remind taxpayers about what can happen despite the best intentions," said state Sen. Scott Schneider in a statement last week. "As soon as there is a snag in any part of Wishard's finances, taxpayers are on the hook.”

That’s not really true, however, countered Gutwein. He has made more than 200 presentations in the last few months—including talks at four churches on Sunday—arguing that Wishard officials have built in such a large cushion for error, that the hospital will never have to fall back on taxpayers for help.

The hospital corporation wants to sell up to $703 million in bonds to replace its aging complex of 17 buildings at 10th Street and University Boulevard.

Selling the bonds now would take advantage of historically low interest rates, which Gutwein does not expect to last. They could save Wishard hundreds of millions of dollars, Gutwein estimates.

Wishard’s bond sales would qualify for even lower interest rates under President Obama’s Build America stimulus program. Gutwein estimates that will save $120 million.

Also, the hospital corporation has saved $150 million to apply toward the project. It is also conducting a philanthropic campaign to raise another $50 million.

“I know of no other public project in the history of our state where a public entity has been able to save $150 million as a down payment of a project,” Gutwein said.

Wishard estimates its annual debt payments for the new hospital will be at least $38 million a year for 30 years. That’s 10 times higher than it currently spend on debt payments. But Gutwein noted that the higher payments still amount to only 4.25 percent of the hospital corporation’s budget.

One key source of revenue Wishard has comes from nursing homes it owns throughout the state. Much attention has focused on these homes, which receive higher payments for Medicaid patients—the lion’s share of all nursing home residents—than those received by a typical nursing home.

The Indiana Medicaid program, using a combination of state and federal funds, pays $130 a day for its patients to stay in nursing homes. But the hospital corporation pays the state $20 extra in taxes per day in order to receive the maximum federal reimbursement of $205.

So on average, the hospital corporation’s nursing homes receive an extra $55 a day, a bonus 42 percent higher than typical nursing homes.

Congress and the Government Accountability Office spent most of this decade investigating the rules, called Upper Payment Limits, which allow the hospital corporation to do garner these higher payments. They made no changes but the scrutiny has caused some to question the prudence of relying on the rules to remain the same for the 30 years it will take Wishard to pay off its bonds.

That includes Sen. Schneider and state Rep. Phil Hinkle, as well as Secretary of Commerce Mitch Roob, who held Gutwein’s job in the 1990s. It also includes Carl Moldthan, a retired firefighter and founder of the Indianapolis Taxpayers Association.

“There’s going to be cuts in Medicare and Medicaid, you know that,” Moldthan said, who will vote no in the Wishard referendum. Moldthan is sure that at some point, local taxpayers will be asked to help pay off Wishard’s bonds.

“When is this going to stop? Somebody is going to have to learn how to say no,” said Moldthan, who has opposed various public projects since 1981.

Another key issue for Wishard will be voter turnout. Special elections have notoriously low participation. In a March 2008 special election to replace the late Rep. Julia Carson’s seat in Congress, just 13 percent of Marion County voters showed up.

If the Wishard project wins, Gutwein said his staff is ready to move immediately to launch the bond sale and start construction work on the new hospital site, which will rest between the Veteran’s Affairs hospital and the IUPUI campus, roughly on the site of the former Larue-Carter mental hospital.

If the referendum fails, Gutwein said, “the most probable outcome would be that we would be required eventually to close Wishard.”

EddieB317
November 4th, 2009, 04:54 PM
Looks like we're getting a new Wishard!

http://www.ibj.com/wishard-construction-project-receiving-84-percent-of-votes/PARAMS/article/10908

http://www.indy.gov/eGov/County/Clerk/Election/Election_Info/Pages/SpecialElection09.aspx

***Originally Posted in Indianapolis Development News

SkywlkrSnd
November 5th, 2009, 03:02 PM
Boy, they're not wasting any time! Referendum passes, now demo is scheduled to begin next week with construction following in March. That's moving at a pretty good clip; I wonder how far along the actual architectural design of the hospital is. Hopefully we'll see some more detailed renders soon.

IBJ: Work on new Wishard Hospital set to start next week (http://www.ibj.com/work-on-new-wishard-will-start-next-week/PARAMS/article/10927)

EddieB317
November 5th, 2009, 06:00 PM
With One Market Square, Penn Centre, and other large scale developments around downtown all falling apart or getting delayed it is nice that Wishard is conveying a sense of urgency with this project. It's fun that the project is breaking ground while there will still be a broad buzz of excitement in Indianapolis.

I will keep an eye out for any new renderings and or details concerning the final design. I haven't seen any more than what I have already posted.

EddieB317
November 5th, 2009, 06:56 PM
Wishard Facts FAQ Page (http://www.wishardfacts.org/faq.php#q19)


What will the new Wishard look like?
If there were a single word to define the new Wishard, it would be "efficient." The new Wishard will be clean, easy to maintain, easy to navigate and highly supportive of patients, physicians, medical students and the public. In addition, the new design will better maintain client confidentiality while still projecting openness and accessibility.

What environmentally friendly or green building designs will the new Wishard design include?
Wishard will build new, more efficient facilities to LEED standards. Wishard plans to include a green roof and other sustainable features. These environmentally-conscious selections will provide long-term cost savings and reduce Wishard's energy costs and use.

When will the new Wishard open?
A new, more efficient facility can be opened as soon as December 2013.

How many beds will the new Wishard have?
The new Wishard will have approximately the same number of beds as its existing facilities. But the new facility will be one-third smaller than the current 17 buildings and yet be able to accommodate more patients.




Saying that the new Wishard will look "efficient" is a little discouraging. I do want it to BE efficient... but I really don't know if looking efficient is necessarily a good thing.

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EddieB317
November 5th, 2009, 08:02 PM
City Hospital 1880
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City Hospital Main Entrance 1900
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City Hospital 1907 (Left); City Hospital Addition 1908 (Right)
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City Hospital 1914
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City Hospital Administrative Building 1924
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Building at City Hospital 1927
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1967
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Regeinstreif Building Consrtuction Nov 4, 1972
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Wishard can be seen in the distance in the top left. July 2009
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SkywlkrSnd
November 5th, 2009, 09:38 PM
Wishard Facts FAQ Page (http://www.wishardfacts.org/faq.php#q19)


What will the new Wishard look like?
If there were a single word to define the new Wishard, it would be "efficient." The new Wishard will be clean, easy to maintain, easy to navigate and highly supportive of patients, physicians, medical students and the public. In addition, the new design will better maintain client confidentiality while still projecting openness and accessibility.

What environmentally friendly or green building designs will the new Wishard design include?
Wishard will build new, more efficient facilities to LEED standards. Wishard plans to include a green roof and other sustainable features. These environmentally-conscious selections will provide long-term cost savings and reduce Wishard's energy costs and use.

When will the new Wishard open?
A new, more efficient facility can be opened as soon as December 2013.

How many beds will the new Wishard have?
The new Wishard will have approximately the same number of beds as its existing facilities. But the new facility will be one-third smaller than the current 17 buildings and yet be able to accommodate more patients.




Saying that the new Wishard will look "efficient" is a little discouraging. I do want it to BE efficient... but I really don't know if looking efficient is necessarily a good thing.

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There's some good general info in that FAQ page...thanks for the link, Eddie.

With regard to the design, a truly "efficient" hospital design is something great to strive for, but difficult to achieve. We're working on one now (not in Indy), and juggling all the docs and departments, and the different workflow requirements of each one, is quite a challenge. If they can get it to be truly efficient and with a smooth traffic and work flow, that would be good.

However, that's not what their own question asked. And therein lies the problem. "How will it look?" is different from "How was it designed?" Seem to me the FAQ asks the first, but answered the second. Efficient design is great, but how will they accomplish that? That's the key. Hopefully we can get something other than a SketchUp model soon to answer it.

And what exactly does "build to LEED standards" mean? Are they shooting for an actual LEED certified building (I HOPE SO!), or they just going to take LEED "principals" and loosely apply them to the building as convenient in order to use in their marketing materials. I'll guess we'll have to wait and see on that one.

EddieB317
November 6th, 2009, 08:57 PM
So I drove by where the new Wishard facility is going to be built earlier today. This project is going to absolutely screw up parking at IUPUI! The parking is already very bad, but now its going to get real bad particularly for the medical students.

These pictures don't actually do the parking situation justice... but it is bad. This whole area is going to be where the new facility is. Glad I am not a current IUPUI med student!

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CorrND
November 6th, 2009, 09:24 PM
So I drove by where the new Wishard facility is going to be built earlier today. This project is going to absolutely screw up parking at IUPUI! The parking is already very bad, but now its going to get real bad particularly for the medical students.

These pictures don't actually do the parking situation justice... but it is bad. This whole area is going to be where the new facility is. Glad I am not a current IUPUI med student!
The parking situation is going to be bad, yes, but it's going to affect all medical-related personnel equally.

The med student population is actually only a drop in the bucket of people that park at IUPUI. There are about 900 or so med students in Indianapolis (300 more are in 1st and 2nd year in satellite campuses around the state). Of the 900 in Indy, 300 are in 1st and 2nd year and are in classrooms every day. The remaining 600 in 3rd and 4th year are spread out and work at hospitals all around the city, though a large chunk work at Wishard/IU/Riley/VA. Maybe 600-700 are on campus on any given day.

My guess is that a majority of people that park north of Larue Carter work at the VA and the majority that park south of it work in the Union Building.

Speaking of the Union Building, the plans show that building being razed. I wonder where all the campus administration personnel that work there are slated to be relocated?

cailes
November 23rd, 2009, 07:00 PM
Im going to be in this area tonight after classes. I was wondering if there was anything going on here yet. I havent turned up anything except that on the 4th they said they were starting that next week.

So if there is something, I will post back tomorrow about it

socrates#1fan
November 24th, 2009, 12:33 AM
Does anyone know what structure is being demolished?

CorrND
November 24th, 2009, 03:43 AM
Does anyone know what structure is being demolished?
According to the IUPUI Master Plan, Larue Carter, the former State Board of Health building and the Union Building are all slated to be razed for New Wishard.

cailes
November 24th, 2009, 02:15 PM
I stopped to pick up something at the Ronald McDonald House last night, and there is a lot of orange construction fence, and it LOOKS like some land is bulldozed, but it was so dark through there, it was difficult to tell what.

cailes
December 1st, 2009, 03:38 PM
http://www.indystar.com/article/20091201/BUSINESS/912010326/1003/BUSINESS/Wishard-project-edges-a-step-closer-to-reality

More in the paper today on this

EddieB317
December 1st, 2009, 05:35 PM
Wishard project edges a step closer to reality
Bid specifications are to be released today for 6-level, $50 million parking garage


By Daniel Lee; Indianapolis Star
Posted: December 1, 2009

Marion County Health and Hospital Corp. is moving ahead with plans to build a roughly $50 million parking structure, the first phase of construction of the planned new Wishard Memorial Hospital complex.

The corporation plans to release bid specifications today for a six-level parking garage that will have about 2,300 spaces, according to Matt Gutwein, chief executive of Health and Hospital Corp. The garage will be adjacent to the hospital and outpatient buildings that are all part of the $754 million complex to be built between 10th and Michigan streets on the Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis campus Downtown.

Work on the garage is expected to begin in fall 2010 and to be completed in about a year. The hospital complex is supposed to be finished by December 2013.

The bids are only for the garage project, according to Gutwein, who said they are due Jan. 11. A separate process will be used to select the contractor for the new hospital.

Gutwein said Health and Hospital Corp. will hold a workshop this month for contractors interested in working on the project. The session will include information on subcontract firms owned by minorities, women, veterans and those with disabilities.

In a special election on Nov. 3, Health and Hospital Corp. received voter approval to issue bonds to finance the building project.


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CorrND
December 1st, 2009, 10:01 PM
Total suburbia.

One thing that bugs me every time I look at the siteplan is that hitch in the road. They made the logical decision to realign Union St. with the Michigan/Limestone St. intersection, but they also made a poor decision to line things up with the existing 10th/Elmwood St. intersection. Those two points aren't lined up north-south, so they had to put in a hitch.

They should have just lined things up with Limestone/Michigan, made it a straight shot north to a new intersection with 10th, and ripped out Elmwood.

With that hitch, they're making the new, 4 lane road the western edge of the Ball Gardens quad, ruining one of the few quads at IUPUI that really feels like a university quad. Now there's no space to put a building on that edge of the quad to replace the Frankenstein Union Building that's slated for demolition (employees to be moved to the recently vacated Lockefield Village building at Wishard).

ablerock
December 2nd, 2009, 05:49 PM
I just don't understand these "build a huge parking garage but still surround the buildings with a sea parking lots" projects that keep happening.

EddieB317
December 2nd, 2009, 06:03 PM
Wishard Releases First Construction Bid Package for New Hospital Project (http://www.wishard.edu/421.html)
Contact: Michelle O'Keefe
Phone: (317) 630-6863
Pager: (317) 310-5972

Indianapolis, December 1, 2009 – The new Wishard Hospital construction project moves forward today with the release of the first construction bid package, which includes a 2,300-car parking garage.

“We are very pleased with the progress we’ve made over the past four weeks and excited to enter this important stage in building a new Wishard,” said Matthew Gutwein, president and CEO of Health and Hospital Corporation of Marion County. “Our team was fully prepared and began immediately upon passage of the referendum to execute our plan to build an efficient and cost-effective new hospital.”

Wishard will construct the six-level parking garage as the first of five buildings at the new site. The parking garage will have three entrances and three stair/elevator towers and will stand on the west side of the new Wishard campus. The garage will accommodate Wishard employees and visitors to the new hospital, as well as provide parking for the Richard L. Roudebush VA Hospital. Wishard’s development will also create an additional 1,500 surface parking spaces upon completion.

“We recognize parking is at a premium in this area and are working with IUPUI to minimize the impact on parking through the construction phase,” said Dr. Lisa Harris, Wishard Health Services CEO and medical director. “The garage will go up first to alleviate the impact of construction on parking and ultimately accommodate Wishard’s parking needs.”
The bid package also includes a utility tunnel running under the garage, on- and off-site utilities and rough grading for the new hospital and portions of the site. Off-site utilities will include high-pressure steam and fiber optics along with underground electric system extension and modification of site drainage.

Wishard published the request for bids today. Bids are due on Jan. 11. Wishard will host a pre-bid meeting and MBE/WBE workshop on Dec. 17 at Wishard Hospital. The meeting and workshop will include a visit to the new site, contractor outreach and networking and information regarding minority-owned and woman-owned business enterprise goals and attainment strategies.

“We take a great deal of pride in maintaining a strong commitment to diversity,” Gutwein said. “We are inviting local businesses that are owned by minorities, women, veterans and people with disabilities to participate in a workshop on Dec. 17 to learn about the specific needs for this construction project and introduce general contractors to these businesses.”

The hospital building project will create more than 4,400 jobs at the height of construction, providing a much-needed shot in the arm to the local building trades industry. In 2010, the garage and demolition work are projected to generate a total of 315 jobs, and in 2011, the garage will create 524 jobs. The garage package and demolition work will provide an estimated economic impact to Marion County of nearly $28 million in 2010, and more than $46.5 million in 2011.

"When voters passed the Wishard referendum, they voted not only for a healthier Indianapolis but also for a healthier local economy,” said Indianapolis Mayor Gregory A. Ballard. “The construction of this garage will generate hundreds of jobs for local workers, and I congratulate the Wishard team for getting this building project started so quickly."
The garage will stand immediately adjacent to the new hospital to maximize convenience and accessibility for patients, visitors and staff. The garage will eventually connect to the main level of the ambulatory clinic building and the second level of the administrative office building.

The facility will primarily feature flat levels, instead of the more common inclined levels, to better accommodate individuals with mobility challenges. The garage will also contain an open core to enhance customer orientation and to provide natural light and ventilation, part of its environmentally friendly design.

Each floor of the garage has a footprint of 240 feet by 609 feet, which is equivalent to the square footage of three football fields. The six levels of the parking structure will provide equivalent square footage of 18 football fields.

On-site work began immediately following the Nov. 3 election, as officials from Wishard and Indiana University signed the land exchange swap the next day, arranging for the transfer of the current Wishard site to Indiana University and the new site to Wishard.
The physical work of the project began immediately as well, with asbestos remediation and interior demolition inside the former Larue D. Carter Hospital. By the end of this year, the interiordemolition of the Larue D. Carter Hospital will conclude, and interior demolition and asbestos remediation will begin in the Indiana State Department of Health building. External demolition of Larue D. Carter Hospital starts near the first of the year, and demolition of both buildings wraps up in late spring 2010.

Wishard will break ground on the hospital in spring 2010. Wishard will construct the new hospital in phases, beginning with the parking garage, and plans to complete the project at the end of 2013.

EddieB317
December 2nd, 2009, 06:06 PM
I just don't understand these "build a huge parking garage but still surround the buildings with a sea parking lots" projects that keep happening.

I agree. I think the developers look at it as a cost benefit equation and they do not put enough weight on the value of great green spaces. They just think another floor on the parking garage will cost a lot, and a surface lot will be cheap.

SMSC1
December 2nd, 2009, 09:38 PM
Cool Corvette in the lot in the 1967 photo!

:)

EddieB317
May 13th, 2010, 12:20 AM
The ground breakin ceremony was today! Can't wait to see this huge project to get noticably under way. Also, I can't wait to find out the new fate of the old property.

CorrND
May 13th, 2010, 04:41 AM
The ground breakin ceremony was today! Can't wait to see this huge project to get noticably under way. Also, I can't wait to find out the new fate of the old property.
One reuse is currently being studied (from the IU Architect's Office project documents):

04/12/2010
IN140 LOCKEFIELD VILL
20106374
PROGRAM 02/01/2010
LOCKEFIELD VILLAGE - FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR STUDENT HOUSING

Lockefield Village is the relatively new building just SW of the corner of Indiana and University (I'm thinking it was built in the 90's-ish, but maybe someone can verify for me). It was originally publicized that the IUPUI campus offices that are housed in the Union Building -- slated for demolition in the second phase of new Wishard construction -- were going to be moved there. With the current Lockefield Gardens (http://www.sextonproperties.com/apartment/index.php?cid=1376) complex and Buckingham's plans (http://www.ibj.com/property-lines/2009/12/23/trustee-chooses-buckingham-for-ymca-redevelopment/PARAMS/post/15357) for the old YMCA site, I like the idea of reusing Lockefield Village for student housing and creating a student housing zone around the Bloch Cancer Survivors Park.

EddieB317
May 13th, 2010, 05:34 AM
But how will that fit with the campus master plan? f I remember correctly they are going to expand housing due west of the current main campus bound by the river and michigan street. I guess the comprehensive campus plan is a very long term plan... so there is a need for housing in the short term.

cwilson758
May 13th, 2010, 04:28 PM
thanks for the old photos

fashionking
September 30th, 2010, 07:40 PM
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keela10
October 24th, 2010, 10:25 AM
Webcam:


http://oxblue.com/pro/open/netwise/wishard

IndyYeah
October 24th, 2010, 10:26 PM
I love the sight of cranes in the air!

UrbanIndy
October 29th, 2010, 10:01 PM
Huge pile of dirt. It doesn't look that big from this perspective, but trust me, it's a ton of dirt.http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/5125229547_3a05999328_b.jpg

fashionking
June 10th, 2011, 07:37 PM
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GarfieldPark
November 4th, 2011, 10:54 PM
Man this building is getting big now. Was out west of downtown along White River Parkway and then drove back in towards downtown on New York Street. It looks like the Wishard complex is now taller than both the Roudebush Medical Center and the Simon Cancer wing at IU Hospital - and it still has a floor or two until it reaches the top of its previously constructed elevator towers. I'll try to get my camera out and takes some pictures. Likewise -- if anyone else is in the area and can get some pictures - it would be good to show them in this thread to mark the progress.

araman0
November 6th, 2011, 05:43 AM
I've been using this web cam (http://oxblue.com/pro/open/netwise/wishard) to monitor progress.

cailes
November 6th, 2011, 08:06 PM
Drove by this weekend. The camera does not do justice to how enormous this building will be

Drewbie
November 10th, 2011, 04:21 AM
^^ It's comparable to the JW falling over on its side ! I'm excited to see how the giant Glass facades end up, and what the reflectivity will be like.

Indy'd
November 16th, 2011, 07:57 PM
I still can't believe the size of the parking garage. It is unfortunate how much visual impact it comands. The set back hurts me as well. What an awesome urban edge this could have presented along this corridor, plus an ambulance would not have had as far to travel. haha

EddieB317
January 11th, 2012, 11:16 PM
01/11/12

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