Is there any reason to why they build a artificial island? Surely Trondheim got enough of coastlines and land elsewhere to build on to not need reclaimed land too?

I think this is a great idea for other Norwegian cities, too. Comparing it to the Dubai palms is a bit voer the top, though.

Construction updates, July 2d, 2011.

Hospitalsløkkan 20
Rendering: http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3144/hospitalslkkan201.jpg

The old tram-hall is been rebuilt into 36 apartments.
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6312/trondheimupdate4.jpg


Strandveien 43
http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/5363-strandveien-43

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3636/trondheimupdate5.jpg


Lund Østre
http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/2189-lund-ostre

A larger residential project in the outskirts of the urban area of Trondheim.
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/2374/trondheimupdate1.jpg


Ilsvika Extra
http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/2176-ilsvika-extra

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/5170/trondheimupdate2.jpg

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/3799/trondheimupdate3.jpg


Grilstad Park
http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/2195-grilstad-park

This is just a depressing development...
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6081/trondheimupdate9.jpg

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/6946/trondheimupdate6.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4513/trondheimupdate8ry.jpg

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4017/trondheimupdate7.jpg

Sluppenveien 17A
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=46764901&postcount=84

Two first post is a report of some pictures i took in May, but here are some more close-up pictures of this new office building which marks the first
construction phase of Trondheim Næringspark. I must admit i like the facade.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4166/sluppen2.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7766/24953240.jpg http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/200/sluppen1.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7766/24953240.jpg http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/8676/trondheimupdate16.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7766/24953240.jpg http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1198/trondheimupdate15.jpg

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7766/24953240.jpg http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/7138/trondheimupdate10.jpg

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8836/trondheimupdate13.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3884/trondheimupdate14.jpg

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/15/trondheimupdate12.jpg

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9568/trondheimupdate11.jpg

Yup, I like the metal cladding too, is it brushed aluminium? Although they could of course have made it a bit more exciting than just plain and flat, something more like this for example (Beekman Place N.Y): (dream, dream ;))

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1359/5142304709_991be87df8_b.jpg

^^ yes, its brushed aluminium. We're miles away from anything similar to Beekman Place with modern architecture in Trondheim, and i bet we can dream for the rest of our lives without seeing anything even close!

I'm sure Beekman Place would be loved by the Miljøpartiet in Trondheim.

Miljøpartiet wants as low buildings as possible. The Trondheim næringspark is probably too tall for them...

I quite like how the building ended up. Finally a building looking better than the renders!:cheers:

Yes yes, fine. But one shiny house does not a næringspark make. When's the rest coming?

Construction updates, taken today.

Clarion Hotel Trondheim
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=45920741&postcount=24

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2374/trondheimupdate1.jpg

Testing how the 1st floor windows should look like, hopefully the wider choice.
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5170/trondheimupdate2.jpg

The "crown" of the building is been built, hopefully these metal plates they are installing on top are just temporary.
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3799/trondheimupdate3.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6312/trondheimupdate4.jpg

Rica Hotel Bakklandet
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=58953397&postcount=326

Last update i guess since its almost completed.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3636/trondheimupdate5.jpg

Entrance toward the bridge.
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6946/trondheimupdate6.jpg

Entrance toward the roundabout.
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/4017/trondheimupdate7.jpg

Parking garage.
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9381/trondheimupdate8.jpg

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6081/trondheimupdate9.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7138/trondheimupdate10.jpg

Nice update, but could Trondheim please stop with these Sjøhus look alikes? They make would otherwise have been a very attractive historic area, into Disney Land. And it only gets harder to appreciate the reals historic buildings with more and more of these copies. A shame.

Nice update, but could Trondheim please stop with these Sjøhus look alikes? They make would otherwise have been a very attractive historic area, into Disney Land. And it only gets harder to appreciate the reals historic buildings with more and more of these copies. A shame.

You know, there are strong protectionist / NIMBY forces in this town. And some are so reactionary that they just want to keep things like they are - regardless! If there must be change though (in case of fires for example), the next best thing seem to be that they suggest building a replica of what was there before, or at least something that is "adapted" to the nearby environment.

I've read quite a few papers from the authorities, and it's always (in the historical parts of town anyway) seem to be the most important to NOT make new buildings stand out. In Fjordgata, it's been fours years now since three "brygger" burnt down, and they still haven't been given the approval to rebuild. I've seen the renderings for that plot and it's still in the very classic "brygge"-style, but apparently it was 0.5m too high (5 floors) :ohno:

When all that's said, I'm not against building in this style at this plot or in Fjordgata (towards the canal). It is possible to use a certain style even though if it's from a different age. A totally different kind of building towards the river/canal would disrupt the harmony of the "bryggerekke". So, I disagree with you in this case, I don't think it will make it like Disneyland, and it's not an exact copy of what was there before either. Besides, the one that was there before was not an old, historical brygge.

It delights me to see that BTU (Brønnteknologiutvikling) is growing, and apparently does their business well enough to expand into this building. They are a small vendor company for the oil business (well plugs are one of the main products). And since I am working in the oil industry myself, it's cool to see local companies playing a larger role.

By the way, they are currently located at Sluppen, and they also have workshop facilities there, so i presume this new building will have that too.

Worked as a machine-operator for a few years producing different parts of BTU's well plugs, so its nice to see some of my customers are doing good.

My understanding was that this one (with the red lined building) was an alternative design later abandoned, yes.

The alternative design doesn't look too great, but so does the final version, and as Galro mention, nothing wrong in a little diversity, especially not a a hospital complex of this size.

I guess i can post a picture of Akutten og Hjerte-lunge-senteret, which offer some different facades.
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7967/stolavs15.jpg

I posted some pictures of some recently completed buildings in the My Trondheim (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=81101508) thread, might be worth a peek!

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9568/trondheimupdate11.jpg

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4559/bergstudentby2.jpg

http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1661657.ece
Nå blir det nytt Torv
Kommunen og investorene endelig enig om det nye Torvet i Trondheim. I 2013 skal det nye Torvet i Trondheim stå ferdig. Det siste halve året har kommunen sammen med Odd Reitan, Ivar Koteng og andre investorer jobbet fram et endelig forslag.

- Nå er det ingen skjær i sjøen, sier Ivar Koteng til adressa.no.

Investorene ønsket seg et torg som:

blir enklere å bruke til arrangementer
tilbyr mer servering
videreutvikler dagens salgsboder
tilbyr en attraktivitet som øker foretningenes omsetning, og mer leiepotensial for kontor
er mer intim
fremstår som trøndersk
oppfattes som et kvalitetstorg
er tilnærmet vedlikeholdsfritt


Rendering of the winning design in the 2005/2006 competition.
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01228/nytorv3_jpg_1228474c.jpg

^^ Looks good, but can you please knock down the buildings to the left?

I hope there will be some nice details in the pavement, like in Drammen. Neons lights, art etc..

Well, it's a good foundation, and the criteria listed in the bullet points are all fine. But it needs something more if it should get "more intimate", which it really, really needs to be. Just like this it will still be a barren "stone desert". I would for instance love to see a big fountain! Perhaps if they are creative about it, it could be made in the shape of a circle around the statue. To put in some high quality lighting is essential too.

Also it needs to have more greenery embedded - this could be in the form of small "islands" that breaks up the continuous floor. To get the idea, the picture below is from "Plaza de España" in Palma Mallorca. Lastly, the floor needs to have some patterns and variations - grey granite slabs are nice enough, but for the size of this place, it will simply be too much of it and too boring. Oh, and yes, my last request would be to fit it with heat tracing, it makes a world of a difference during the winter!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-a_LE-ZMcvMo/TiHQANCor4I/AAAAAAAABxM/LKkTQ07fPCg/Plaza%252520Espana.jpg

Moholt Aktiv

39 apartments divided in 3 buildings.

Links | Moholt Aktiv official website (http://www.moholtaktiv.no/)

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/73/moholtaktiv2x1000.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6726/moholtaktiv8.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8979/moholtaktiv4.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/2412/moholtaktiv3.jpg

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8316/moholtaktiv7.jpg

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1968/moholtaktiv6.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/904/moholtaktiv5.jpg

Heimstad Park

Phase 2 of Heimstad Park is out for sale these days. Byggetrinn 2 conist of 18 apartments in a three floor tall building. Heimstad Park is located at
Tiller, east of Heimdal and City Syd.

LINKS | Heimstad Park official website (http://heimstadpark.no/)

View high resolution renderings (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=82160004#post82160004)

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/4205/heimstadpark1x1000copy.jpg
Illustration by Godhavn (http://www.godhavn.no/)

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2596/heimstadpark2x1000copy.jpg
Illustration by Godhavn (http://www.godhavn.no/)

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/5637/heimstadpark3x1000copy.jpg
Illustration by Godhavn (http://www.godhavn.no/)

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/832/heimstadpark4x1000copy.jpg
Illustration by Godhavn (http://www.godhavn.no/)

I know its been posted before, this is just a post i will use with links to the first post of this thread and Urbika.

Udbyes gate 1

Udbyes gate 1 vil bestå av to blokker som strekker seg over 7 etasjer. I første etasje skal det etableres dagligvarebutikk. Leilighetene som
starter på 3.etasje kommer derfor høyt opp fra bakkeplan, og med sine to grønt- områder vil du finne din egen oase - men likevel så
sentrumsnært.

Leilighetene er fra 45,5 m2 - 122 m2, med ett sove-rom på de minste og tre soverom på de største. Alle leilighetene leveres med egen
balkong, flislagt bad og egen bod inne i leiligheten. For de større leilighetene får du levert separat vaskerom. Vi har lagt vekt på at det skal
være lyse og trivelige flater, og store vinduer sørger for at du får godt med lys.

Med et steinkast fra både fra NTNU Gløshaugen og St.Olavs Hospital befinner du deg fra en av Midt-Norges største arbeids- og studieplasser
med mange muligheter. Området bærer derfor mye preg av modernisering og nye flotte bygg. Trondheim sentrum med alle sine fasiliteter når
du med en gåtur på 15 min, eller du kan benytte deg av byens kollektivtrafikk som har busstopp like utenfor i Elgsetergate.

LINKS | Udbyes gate 1 official website (http://www.udbyesgate1.no/)

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4060/betweenbar20pixelsssc.jpghttp://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1377/udbyesgate5.jpg

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4060/betweenbar20pixelsssc.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4479/udbyesgate6.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5906/udbyesgate3x1000.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7759/udbyesgate4x1000.jpg

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2711/udbyesgate1x1000.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1247/udbyesgate2x1000.jpg

hey guys!

I will be driving to Trondheim from west norway what road is best and faster?

hey guys!

I will be driving to Trondheim from west norway what road is best and faster?

It depends on where you are, but if you are in Bergen or nearby drive to Lærdal - Beitosdølen - Vågå - Sel (E6) and to Trondheim. If you are around Sognefjorden (Sogndal) drive across Sognefjellet - Lom - Vågå - Sel (E6) and to Trondheim. If in Stryn, Førde or Florø the fastest road is across Strynfjellet to Lom - Vågå - Sel (E6) and to Trondheim. If you are in Ålesund, Volda or Molde drive E39 to Trondheim, or drive to Sunndalsøra - Oppdal - Trondheim.

I needed a post for this one as well (its been posted before).

Strandveien 43

A new 11 000m2 large commercial building replacing a old industrial warehouse close to the WWII Dora I submarine building. PLAN Arkitekter is the
architect of the building which started construction in late 2010 and is scheduled to be completed in 2012.

LINKS | Strandveien 43 official website (http://www.strandveien43.no/) | Construction webcamera (http://www.strandveien43.no/webkamera)

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/2451/strandveien436j.jpg
Illustration by PLAN Arkitekter AS (http://www.plan.no/)

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6813/strandveien433x1000.jpg
Illustration by PLAN Arkitekter AS (http://www.plan.no/)

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

Construction Updates

Construction update, July 2d, 2011.
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/3636/trondheimupdate5.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

Construction update, September 11th 2011.
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2374/trondheimupdate1.jpg

One thing that seems to have been changed about this project is that the renderings show the new building replacing all of the previous buildings along it. However, on the actual site, the hall to the left is still standing. I am quite pleased with that actually, since that hall is a nice functional facility housing stuff like a climbing hall and other entertainment activities.

Hard to get any info on why, but it might be that they are planning a phase 2 sometime in the future. If so i guess they will move the climbing hall and sport/entertainment facilities in that building (i'd like to see more sport facilities such as this in Trondheim rather than football/handball arenas...).

Some Professor Emeritus (not specifying in what field he actually is a Professor within) has written a chronicle about city densification: http://www.adressa.no/meninger/article1674540.ece

The article is angled towards his opinion that there is "too much capitalism" and that building has been done "too high and too dense". Needless to say, I totally disagree with both his analysis and his conclusion!!

hey guys!

I will be driving to Trondheim from west norway what road is best and faster?

It depends on where you are, but if you are in Bergen or nearby drive to Lærdal - Beitosdølen - Vågå - Sel (E6) and to Trondheim. If you are around Sognefjorden (Sogndal) drive across Sognefjellet - Lom - Vågå - Sel (E6) and to Trondheim. If in Stryn, Førde or Florø the fastest road is across Strynfjellet to Lom - Vågå - Sel (E6) and to Trondheim. If you are in Ålesund, Volda or Molde drive E39 to Trondheim, or drive to Sunndalsøra - Oppdal - Trondheim.

The shortest (and possibly most spectacular) but not neccessarily fastest road between Bergen and Trondheim is via Øvre Årdal (Tindevegen) and Sognefjellet: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=41680358&postcount=810

A couple of aerial photographies from Statens Vegvesen of the project:

Western part / Møllenberg tunnel entrance: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-YMEpqmtTpFQ/TkVklL7igrI/AAAAAAAABxk/rNCxLxNqN-8/s1152/M%2525C3%2525B8llenberg_resize.jpg

Eastern part / Strindheim tunnel entrances and the 3-level intersection:
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vUfU9ji1bAk/TkVmfS5_5iI/AAAAAAAABx4/xio9qY2ccTs/s1152/Strindheim_resize_crop.jpg

Those look awesome - i will post them in the international tread!

There has been a lot of articles on Adressa the last few weeks on «luftslottene i Trondheim», they should be mentioned in this thread as well.

Firefelts avlastningsvei over Bakklandet (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1664145.ece)
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01229/vikan_kart_artikke_1229142c.jpg

HiST og NTNU i ett (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1664121.ece)
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01228/std_1228997c.jpg

Statuen av Olav Tryggvassons på Torget (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1664061.ece)
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01228/trygg1_1228983c.jpg

And as posted in the Ocean Space Center-thread.
UFO-en som ikke lander i fjorden (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1664131.ece)
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01229/bilde08_1229004c.jpg

next page pls!

Jobber videre mot giganthall og «fyrtårn»
http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1665313.ece

Planene for 105 meter høye Trondheim Tower og idrettshall på Brattøra går fremover.

Byplansjef Ann-Margrit Harkjerr mente at Trondheim ikke trenger høyhus for å fremstå som en moderne by. Hun tror Trondheim Tower kan bryte mot bystyrets vedtak om at nybygg ikke skal konkurrere med Nidarosdomen. Hans Hoff i Realinvest er opptatt av tett dialog med kommunen for å få til byggeplanene.

- Vi er i kontakt med kommunen for å få vite hva som må utredes og vil begynne arbeidet med dette etter valget i høst. Vi håper på en behandling i 2012, sier han.

More in the article.

Lerkendal Innovasjonssenter

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/Bilder090.jpg

Finally, some of the construction rises above the surrounding wall. Following the progress from the bus will be a lot more interesting from now on :)

Sorry for the poor quality.

Lerkendal Innovasjonssenter

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Bilder090.jpg

Finally, some of the construction rises above the surrounding wall. Following the progress from the bus will be a lot more interesting from now on :)

Sorry for the poor quality.

Looks like your image disappeared from photobucket....:(

Leader of Trondhjems Arktitektforening issues challenge to Trondheim's political leadership: More urban development!

Tøffere tiltak i byplanleggingen (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/article1686948.ece)

Elgesetergate 55-57

Development of Elgesetergate 55-57 is slowly going forward. This is a mulighetstudie and reguleringsplan for the site made by Studio 4 Arkitekter (http://www.studio4arkitekter.no/).

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6859/elgesetergate551.jpg
Illustration by CADMAN (http://www.cadman.dk/)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1808/elgesetergate552.jpg
Illustration by CADMAN (http://www.cadman.dk/)

The trainstation renders are beautiful and they positively reek of nitty-gritty urbanity. Hopefully, the actual finished constructions will look as good as the renders.

The feasibility study of Elgeseter gate 55 and 57 looks great and my first reaction is that it's lightyears better than the open lot and mutated wreck of an automobile garage that currently occupies it. I just hope there's a plan for the Elgester gate 53 plot as well (between the project and the building to the left on the render), otherwise that whole city block is going to seem incomplete.

They both seems like high quality projects.
:)

- Stanser bygging av kulturhus
http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/nordtrondelag/stjordal/article1689027.ece

Byggingen av kulturhus på Stjørdal kan bli utsatt. Årsaken er, ifølge Stjørdalens Blad, at bygget kan bli dyrere enn den økonomiske rammen på 570 millioner kroner som tidligere har blitt vedtatt.

http://i48.tinypic.com/rsetjq.jpg

Ilsvika Extra:
Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/2176-ilsvika-extra)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/DSC_0001.jpg

Kanalhotellet:
Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/3949-kanalhotellet)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/DSC_0022.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/DSC_0027.jpg

KBS Senteret:
Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/2178-kbs-senteret)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/DSC_0006.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/DSC_0012.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/DSC_0011.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/DSC_0019.jpg

Nice updates guys! The train station does look promising indeed. But these renderings only show the tracks area, what will the actual entrance/exit hall look like?

Elgeseter gate 55-57 seem to have some quality as well. But in my mind it is wrong to merge the two plots for one single building. The building should rather have been half the width and twice the height, and then a different building could have occupied the neighbouring plot to ensure variety. The rendering shows it labelled with "Høgskolen i Sør-Trøndelag" - is this just a candidate, or is it actually decided as the occupant of it?
If HIST is to use the building, I can understand the form factor is more convenient, but if it would be just another office building, my comment above about taller/narrower stands. Although this probably would not pass approval from the authorities anyway....

Edit: And I really like the large and open entrance area at the corner! :)

My pleasure! Actually, I'd like to steal those renders of Elgeseter gate 55-57 and set up a project on Urbika If you don't mind.

^^ its all yours, i am busy for the next week anyway!

Charlottenlund Vest

18 new apartments next to the new Charlottenlund Videregående Skole (upper secondary school). Construction starting autumn 2011 with completion in summer 2012.

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3144/charlottenlundvest1x128.jpg

EC Dahls Eiendom have hired ARC arkitekter for a densification project in Midtbyen.

Project website (http://www.arcarkitekter.no/midtbykvartalet-2011)
Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/6112-midtbykvartalet)

http://www.arcarkitekter.no/components/com_portfolio/includes/phpthumb/phpThumb.php?w=800&src=../../../../images/stories/portfolio/item_original/123_1313397297.jpg
(c) ARC arkitekter

Yet another feasibility plan. This one I'm definitely rooting for. The area today is dominated by a big ugly plank fence and an even bigger and uglier piece of "art" - the Leif Eriksson monument.

Project website (http://www.arcarkitekter.no/kjopmannsgata-36-38-detaljplan-2011)
Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/6113-kjopmannsgata-36-38)

http://www.arcarkitekter.no/components/com_portfolio/includes/phpthumb/phpThumb.php?w=800&src=../../../../images/stories/portfolio/item_original/113_1296123217.jpg
(c) ARC arkitekter

Proposed new cathedral to replace the current St Olav catholic church.

Project homepage (http://www.bergersenarkitekter.no/Prosjekter/11750)
Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/6125-st-olav-cathedral)

http://www.vitaminw.no/kunde/bark/karusell/1319/Tumb_Show/fugl.jpg

http://www.vitaminw.no/kunde/bark/karusell/1319/Tumb_Show/klostergang.jpg

http://www.vitaminw.no/kunde/bark/karusell/1319/Tumb_Show/hovedskip.jpg

I think it looks quite nice, but it needs a higher tower imho.

With Nidarosdomen nearby? Good luck with that.

^^ You don't have to build it that high! But I do think it looks weird now that the church body is higher than the churchs tower!
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa352/ruterruter/fugl.jpg

Just double the height and it will look a lot better imho.

Just double the height
http://dittoslo.no/polopoly_fs/forn-yd-2-1.6226512!/image/507640080.jpg_gen/derivatives/derivative_article_168/507640080.jpg

:lol:

It would be great if the plot at Kjøpmannsgata 36 can be developed with something along this proposal. The tall, ugly plank wall gives nothing back to its surroundings, and it is a real shame at such a central location. I've wondered why it has been like this all these years, and it wouldn't surprise me if the "byantikvar" has something to do with it. Anyway: Thumbs up for Villaservice / ABC Architects!

By the way, I think the monument is quit alright. The pool is nice. I've included the "street view" pics below so that people not familiar with it can see what we're talking about:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W3ST5m1VvlQ/TmTZBTICifI/AAAAAAAAByA/lmA-2OqeR94/Leiv%252520Eriksson1.jpg

And from the opposite direction (water surface seen in front):
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-LP9TM7HVgL4/TmTZCUeu0dI/AAAAAAAAByE/AcUIdkEQzAw/Leiv%252520Eriksson2.jpg

The momument is alright, the fence is horrible, and as is the building next to the fence.

What? Dude, that is prime, grade A, funky sixties functionalism! Priceless stuff! ;)

Incidentally, the Trondheim section on Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/cities/view/172-trondheim) just went three figures. We now have one hundred projects! :D

:banana::banana2::cheers::cheers1::cheers::banana2::banana:

Well, by the looks of it, this whole city block is from the '60s, but with the exception of the north-eastern corner, seen clearly in the bird view rendering below (thanks to Finn Maps 3D), which consist of older wooden buildings. I don't know the history, but what's interesting is that the older wooden houses are lined up in a block structure too, but as a different smaller block within the newer one. It is clear that when the newer parts were constructed in the '60s, the old block structure was razed, but the new block was never completed.

Perhaps the rest of the old wooden buildings (which now are gone) that once occupied the plot was demolished, before "byantikvaren" called a halt to preserve the last part? Perhaps the rest was ruined in a fire, and they were not allowed to demolish the last part? Perhaps a finance crisis? As I said, I don't know the history behind it, but it would certainly be interesting to know.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-58GjbTHTINQ/TmUnoaIvJBI/AAAAAAAAByM/WQq2AM8QhCk/broken%252520block.jpg

Incidentally, the Trondheim section on Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/cities/view/172-trondheim) just went three figures. We now have one hundred projects! :D


Well that's great, and thanks for your contributions Arntf. Although it is not entirely correct that there are 100 projects, since also a number of historical buildings are listed. Stiftsgården for instance, which was completed in 1774, is a pretty old "project" :lol:

I had forgotten Urbika existed.. haven't really used it in like 6 months, and I love how not shit has been done since I stopped updating it.

We are still ahead of you with 137 projects, and no historical buildings :)

Well that's great, and thanks for your contributions Arntf. Although it is not entirely correct that there are 100 projects, since also a number of historical buildings are listed. Stiftsgården for instance, which was completed in 1774, is a pretty old "project" :lol:

Heck, we've just been updating Urbika since before the internet. The Stiftsgården project was just among those that got ported over from the old calf-skin-and-feather-quill database ;)

Anyway, all projects eventually become either dumped, completed or demolished in the end, so in the long run it makes no difference.

Perhaps the rest of the old wooden buildings (which now are gone) that once occupied the plot was demolished, before "byantikvaren" called a halt to preserve the last part? Perhaps the rest was ruined in a fire, and they were not allowed to demolish the last part? Perhaps a finance crisis? As I said, I don't know the history behind it, but it would certainly be interesting to know.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-58GjbTHTINQ/TmUnoaIvJBI/AAAAAAAAByM/WQq2AM8QhCk/broken%252520block.jpg

Well, I don't know about the other two in the block, but the 60's building that faces Kjøpmannsgaten and Dronningens gate replaced Gramgården, wich was torn down in 1951, despite being a unique, protected building. Fortunately, some of it remains in the form of a replica at the Sverresborg museum (http://www.sverresborg.no/psmaler/side.asp?thisId=1146694861)

http://www.sverresborg.no/bildearkiv/gramgaarden.jpg
(c) Sverresborg Folkemuseum

Yeah, and I also did some research and found this one, which shows a fire in Krambugata 1, dated June 1959. So that fits very well with the '60s style architecture rebuilt in its place. (credit to www.trondheimsbilder.no (http://www.trondheimsbilder.no))

http://galleri.bibsys.no/bildedb/images/FB-59-081-B1-03?lib=ubit

Yup, that would be the TOBB headquarters of today, the one CoR loves so much ;)

LINK Arkitekter prosjektside (http://www.link-signatur.no/no/prosjekter/strinda-videregaende-skole//)
Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/6183-nye-strinda-vgs)

Den nye videregående skolen på Strinda vil få 207 ansatte og 1275 elever fordelt på studieprogrammene; studiespesialisering, idrettsfag, restaurant- og matfag, elektrofag, helse- og sosialfag og tilrettelagte kurs. Skolen vil få et bruttoareal på ca. 17.250 m2. Som en del av skoleanlegget bygges en stor flerbrukshall beregnet på bruk også utenfor ordinær skoletid, og blir blant de største videregående skolene i midt-norge.
Det tidligere hovedbygget i eksisterende skoleanlegg er bevaringsverdig og beholdes som en integrert del av det nye skoleanlegget.

http://www.ladejarlen.vgs.no/upload/Ladejarlen/Nye%20Strinda/nyeStrinda2.jpg
(c) LINK Arkitektur AS

I think this proposal looks surprisingly beautiful! Most "modern" churches that has been built are soulless boxes, but this one.... well I actually find it very, very aesthetic. I also like the way they have lowered the level of the plaza in front of the church. Of course the clock tower should have been taller, but as I can recall from a while ago reading about it, it was the usual objections: "must be subordinate to the historical environment.. blah blah", which in this case of course means Nidarosdomen as its close neighbour.

The existing church building there today is really ugly - a dated example of some '70s modernism. It has also become way to small for the number of people with catholic faith as a result of the immigration over the last 30-40 years.

I think this proposal looks surprisingly beautiful! Most "modern" churches that has been built are soulless boxes, but this one.... well I actually find it very, very aesthetic. I also like the way they have lowered the level of the plaza in front of the church. Of course the clock tower should have been taller, but as I can recall from a while ago reading about it, it was the usual objections: "must be subordinate to the historical environment.. blah blah", which in this case of course means Nidarosdomen as its close neighbour.


Not all of them! Check out this church here in the city:
http://www.archdaily.com/1929/mortensrud-church-jsa/

And also see the new church they are building in Alta:
http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/1099-nordlyskatedralen

Both beautiful imho.

The capacity problem is the main reason they want a new one, but I'm kinda fond of the old one too. Which is odd, since as far as I care about churches, they should be just... ornamenty. All the older churches in town fit that bill to a T, and all the newer ones around are horribly ordinary and unimpressive. The only exception in my humble opinion, is the old St Olav's. It has a certain scruffy modernism and I like it.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/St_Olav_kirke_Trondheim.jpg

Of course, with all those glass blocks, it also looks like my bathroom, only consecrated.

It's a big shame that we still continue building religious buildings at all.. huge waste of money.

Sure, but in this case it will be a big waste of the Vatican's money, in which case I'm not overly bothered.

Construction updates 11.09.2011

Clarion Hotel Trondheim
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=45920741&postcount=24

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5170/trondheimupdate2.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

Strandveien 43
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=82655214#post82655214

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2374/trondheimupdate1.jpg

Construction updates 11.09.2011

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2374/trondheimupdate1.jpg

What's the tower to the right/under the crane?

^^ Thats the tower of EC Dahl's factory. :)

The company pub is inside that tower. Excellent place :)

Se nye Spektum
http://www.adressa.no/sport/article1694383.ece

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01236/NyeSpektrum_1236503c.jpg

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01236/NyeSpektrum2_1236505c.jpg

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01236/NyeSpektrum1_1236506c.jpg

This is the wrong way to go in my opinion. To choose this location for a larger exhibition and sports center will be like walking backwards into the future. The access to the area today (via Klostergata) is suboptimal, since it is a dead-end-road going through a residential area. Constructing a new (very narrow it looks like) bridge crossing the river from Osloveien in the west, as the only access will be a horrible solution if they close Klostergata from accessing the area. This means that it would be extremely cumbersome the get there if you come from south via Elgeseter gate. You would have to drive through the bottleneck of Midtbyen and Ila (in particular more so since they now have choked the capacity in Ila).

And of course, an area with this proximity to town center should be developed as an urban area. Some green heads are raving about leaving the whole area for a park if the Nidarøhallen moves, but this would be a total waste. Even the area that is park-like there today - basically the belt along the river - is scarcely used. And in case of an urban development of the Nidarø area, this green belt would be preserved. But then it would actually have the potential to be filled with people and activity.

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01236/NyeSpektrum1_1236506c.jpg

Bygg.no have closer version of this render showing the design better:
http://www.bygg.no/cache/image/39267/53/spektrum-nidarø-bredde.jpg

Link: http://www.bygg.no/2011/09/oensker-ny-storhall-paa-nidaroe

Illustrated article in Adresseavisen (http://www.adressa.no/sport/skoyter/article1694902.ece)

Norges Skøyteforbund og Norges Bandyforbund ønsker et anlegg på Leangen bygd på samme måte som Frogner stadion i Oslo. Der er det et helårlig flerbruksanlegg med heldekkende isflate på indre bane for bandy og kunstløp på vinters tid, og med kunstgress for fotball og amerikansk fotball i sommerhalvåret.

Two national sports associations for skating and bandy want to redevelop the Leangen ice sports centre in Trondheim redeveloped in the style of Frogner Stadium in Oslo, wich is an all-year multi use facility. It features bandy and skating during the winter and football and american football on artificial grass during summer.

Nå har de engasjert seg for å få fortgang i planene, og Trondheim er satt på en prioriteringsliste over anlegg som skal få ekstraordinære midler til kostnadskrevende anlegg. Kombinasjonen innebærer at man i tillegg til ordinære spillemidler på 6,5 millioner kroner, kan få ekstraordinære spillemidler på 5 millioner.

The Trondheim facility is now shortlisted to receive additional funding in order to speed up the process. This entails 6.5 million NOK in National Lottery funds and an additional funding of 5 million NOK.

This is not the most intriguing of projects, but filling up the plot would remove one underutilized eyesore in central Trondheim. At present the plot consists of a single floor, flat roof building that houses shops. The project proposes a five floor newbuilt to replace it, and rebuilding backyard buildings behind it.

Project website (http://lusparken.no/kongensgt-27-info)
Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/6203-kongensgate-27)

http://lusparken.no/images/stories/prosjekter/kongensgate27/Kongensgt_27.jpg

^^For god's sake, add some colors:bash:

It's just a concept render. Details like choice of materials and colours won't come in to play until later.

Right, should probably have read the description on their site first. In my defence, it usually ends up with something very similar to this sketch...

^^For god's sake, add some colors:bash:

Here you go:
http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa352/ruterruter/Kongensgt_27-1.jpg

Time for your meds, Galro... ;)

Took a couple of snapshots of Lerkendal Innovasjonssenter today:

Skyskrapercity (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=58876011&postcount=330)
Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/2181-lerkendal-innovasjon)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/XL800371.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/XL800370.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/XL800368.jpg

Things are progressing quickly at the Lerkendal Innovasjonssenter:

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/Bilder106.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/Bilder107.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/Bilder105.jpg
(c) Meself

Architect students at NTNU have doodled a couple of projects for incorporating bicycle storage, rental and transport in Trondheim:

Article (http://www.adressa.no/student/article1698466.ece)

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01237/prosjekt2_1237495c.jpg

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01237/prosjekt1_2_1237494c.jpg

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01237/prosjekt3_1237493c.jpg

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01237/prosjekt4_1237492c.jpg
All photos (c) NTNU

Adresseavisen, the country's oldest surviving newspaper, has finally grown tired of the suburban life at Heimdal and is planning to move it's headquarters back into the city. The intended plot is Verftsgata 2, one of the very few areas of the former industrial east bank of Nidelven that remains undeveloped.

The media company has struck a deal with Polaris Media and Verftsgata Holding AS, intending to create a real estate company to develop the plot.

Article (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article1701327.ece)

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01238/Bakke_bru_1238130c.jpg
(c) Adresseavisen

Excisting development plans for the plot:

Verftstomta on Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/1877-verftstomta) and Skyscrapercity (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=46109847&postcount=69)

http://www.urbika.com/imgs/projects/large/1877_verftstomta.jpg
(c) Arc Arkitekter

^^Terrible.

^^Terrible.

I don't think it's that bad. Could you elaborate Mjoks?

The current renderings show a boxy building very similar to the rest of Nedre Elvehavn development, and copy Royal Garden Hotel across the river, as a massive building. I would be pleased if they developed a complex of similar size and height as the current plan and with urban qualities with shops, restaurants and bars in the first floor, and especially toward the river. Though i wish they would design the building with some variety of architecture and design. A barcode of attached buildings each unique in design and height as an example.

examples
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3262/vulkan3.jpg

http://www.selvaaggruppen.no/SiteCollectionImages/Forvaltning/Utleie/Bolette%20brygge.jpg

Sadly, Trondheim just knows exactly how to destroy the plots with the best potential, and build poorly designed buildings.

I don't think it's that bad. Could you elaborate Mjoks?
Well, surely that must be one of the best infill plots in the city, right next to the river and the bridge. The architecture does not justify that location at all. It looks cheap, boring and misplaced. Its fails (imo) to both integrate with the existing buildings and/or make a good contrast to it. Besides, it does not look like a good building to locate a newspaper. Is should look like one building and not a “three-headed” building, cause that doesn't fit at all, on public buildings like this. This building can from the look of it contain everything…

Not mean to brag, and I dont know how well this picture represent it for someone (I assume) not knowing it. But I think the Tønsbergs blad new (6 years I think) building is a quite good example for its purpose. Most of the building is an old funkis building that was much hated before is was renewed.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2425392105_67912cd6d3.jpg
(The windows is usually not covered with persienner.. In the bottom you can look right in to the tv vestfold studio)

You could also see brondeimr's photos here. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=60951787&postcount=365)

Edit: But I guess the building will change alot if Adressa moves in.

^^ i am not sure if one big building will integrate very well with the current surrounding buildings. It will make a good contrast if its design with be something of a landmark though (like that is going to happen!). The Trondheim site is almost twice as large as the site for Tønsberg Blad (Tønsberg blad's building is certainly more beautiful the the plans for Verftsgata, though i would hope for something much better).

^^ How about something like the building to the right here:
http://www.finseth.no/upload/2010/11/26/kopi-av-bilder-017.jpg
http://www.google.no/imgres?q=sk%C3%B8yen+arken&um=1&hl=no&client=opera&rls=nb&channel=suggest&biw=1646&bih=824&tbm=isch&tbnid=oAYA8b47ivmVNM:&imgrefurl=http://www.finseth.no/reference/6/sjolyst-arken&docid=d66kRzkNCi_hyM&w=1200&h=729&ei=mzGCTr6XMof0sgbdtfmmDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=598&vpy=165&dur=630&hovh=175&hovw=288&tx=169&ty=90&page=1&tbnh=115&tbnw=189&start=0&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0

Would look great leaning over the road from the bridge.

^^ its nice, but i am thinking even more spectacular (as always!). For such a important, central and 'historic' site like this i'd rather not have a huge 40000m2 single office buildings though.

^^ You could reduce it in height/size and still have the leaning effect though.
but i am thinking even more spectacular (as always!).

But how much spectacularness does the city alow though? It appears to me like Trondheim are super conservative when it comes to developments.

^^ its not the area or height i am worried about, its the usage of one design over a large face. I'd be happy to see 10 floors as long as its design is sleek which is why i first though a line of attached barcode-like stripes buildings, which integrate well with the line of wharf's down the river.

i am not sure if one big building will integrate very well with the current surrounding buildings.
No, that is my point. It should rather try integrate/mirror the surroundings better, or don't do it all. Build a signal building instead. Don't need to be tall (not realistic), but a location like this deserve a building that is at least a bit costly.

I can easily see that the two examples you posted, Þróndeimr, are much better in terms of variety and urbanity (the first one is Vulkan, but what is the other one?) No doubt, Trondheim could benefit in many ways by taking in inspiration from urban style architecture around the world. Unfortunately yes, there is too much conservatism. The authorities are extremely narrow minded when it comes to building heights and plot utilisations. The result is less urban and less exciting architecture. And in many cases it also stops any development at all.

(the first one is Vulkan, but what is the other one?)

Tjuvholmen.

Actually, I'm not hating this proposal as much. I especially think the choice of green copper plating and red bricks work well in the context of the former industrial area that makes up the neighbourhood.

Also, none of the other buildings downriver on that bank are trying to look too much like small wharf houses, apart from the energy building next door (which is horrendously ugly). The only concession it is making, is in the three block style. Besides, the plot is way to big for an infill project, and way way too close to the cathedral for any highrise.

But how much spectacularness does the city alow though? It appears to me like Trondheim are super conservative when it comes to developments.

Which is, basically true, but it is mostly an issue when proposals are made close to the historical city centre. This one is right on the river, within spitting distance of the cathedral and wedged inbetween the picturesque Møllenberg and Bakklandet areas. Any development there will be argued to death or mediocrity.

It makes me wish that the city council could decide to set aside an area of the city, for spectacular, experimental or demanding architecture - and not just for tall architecture, as the case is today.

Sluppen would be my preferred choice. All the way from Lerkendal to Kroppan bru, including Tempe and Sorgenfri

This is not the most intriguing of projects, but filling up the plot would remove one underutilized eyesore in central Trondheim. At present the plot consists of a single floor, flat roof building that houses shops. The project proposes a five floor newbuilt to replace it, and rebuilding backyard buildings behind it.

Project website (http://lusparken.no/kongensgt-27-info)
Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/6203-kongensgate-27)

http://lusparken.no/images/stories/prosjekter/kongensgate27/Kongensgt_27.jpg

This is indeed a very-much needed infill. So, I checked up a bit. The case (detail regulation) was up in "Bygningsrådet" last year, and "Rådmannen" proposed to reject it. It looks however like it passed with some annotation about correcting the maps/regulation to reflect that it is a "preservation area" (hensynssone for verneverdig bebyggelse) The regulation states that the maximum height allowed to be built is 4 floors / 14m at the plot. It is a bit unclear to me however if the proposed development is acceptable or not within this regulation. I suspect it is not. (The whole case can by the way be found here: http://www.trondheim.kommune.no/content/1117694698/Kongens-gate-23-27-29-og-31-detaljregulering-)

This plot has a long history. Originally it was supposed to be built a rather large building on it in 1917. But for some reason, it was never completed, so only a small part was actually built, as can be seen in the illustration below. In 1996 an approval was given for a slightly lower building, but apparantly this ran out in 2003. So now they had to apply again, this time with an even lower utilisation (since the 5th floor is in lammells and not continuos).

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CvGQNAHw16c/ToS5gUF3NGI/AAAAAAAAByY/w9-UNL99DXY/s912/Kongens%252520gate%25252027.jpg

It's quite amazing really, that a 100 years ago they were allowed to build larger than today. So, even the last proposal was now troublesome according to "Rådmannen" who rejected it. Below is a snapshot of the report (saksfremstilling). Super conservative?? Oh yeah! Depressing really. I leave it to you guys to read it, and rest my case....:ohno:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vd_MILCwLWs/ToS8YVu9-FI/AAAAAAAABys/9iUNrcavtnM/s720/Kongens%252520gate%25252027b.jpg

The proposed volume will add to a weakening of the readability of the historical quarter, as it becomes unclear what delineates the end of the quarter; the small house in front or the big one behind.

Yeah, that's really gonna bust my day whenever I pass through the area...


For crying out loud, you feckless morons, the people who bloody well built the historical values you arguably try to preserve, thought it was fine to build taller! If they'd gone ahead and built the full 1917 proposal you'd be preserving that instead! :bash:

Always size/height that is important. No one cares about the actual design. :ohno:

Some new pictures of the Brattøra hotel in this article.

http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article1703410.ece

This is indeed a very-much needed infill. So, I checked up a bit. The case (detail regulation) was up in "Bygningsrådet" last year, and "Rådmannen" proposed to reject it. It looks however like it passed with some annotation about correcting the maps/regulation to reflect that it is a "preservation area" (hensynssone for verneverdig bebyggelse) The regulation states that the maximum height allowed to be built is 4 floors / 14m at the plot. It is a bit unclear to me however if the proposed development is acceptable or not within this regulation. I suspect it is not. (The whole case can by the way be found here: http://www.trondheim.kommune.no/content/1117694698/Kongens-gate-23-27-29-og-31-detaljregulering-)

This plot has a long history. Originally it was supposed to be built a rather large building on it in 1917. But for some reason, it was never completed, so only a small part was actually built, as can be seen in the illustration below. In 1996 an approval was given for a slightly lower building, but apparantly this ran out in 2003. So now they had to apply again, this time with an even lower utilisation (since the 5th floor is in lammells and not continuos).

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CvGQNAHw16c/ToS5gUF3NGI/AAAAAAAAByY/w9-UNL99DXY/s912/Kongens%252520gate%25252027.jpg

It's quite amazing really, that a 100 years ago they were allowed to build larger than today. So, even the last proposal was now troublesome according to "Rådmannen" who rejected it. Below is a snapshot of the report (saksfremstilling). Super conservative?? Oh yeah! Depressing really. I leave it to you guys to read it, and rest my case....:ohno:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vd_MILCwLWs/ToS8YVu9-FI/AAAAAAAABys/9iUNrcavtnM/s720/Kongens%252520gate%25252027b.jpg

Well, the difference is that the 1917 proposal looked nice, the 2011 proposal looks like shit.

^^ true, it looks like shit, but the council declined it because its "too tall" when they should have rejected it because it looks like shit. That is the problem with politicians in Trondheim!

^^ true, it looks like shit, but the council declined it because its "too tall" when they should have rejected it because it looks like shit. That is the problem with politicians in Trondheim!

I think it looks quite okey actually...

^^ true, it looks like shit, but the council declined it because its "too tall" when they should have rejected it because it looks like shit. That is the problem with politicians in Trondheim!

Yes, I agree with you on this, and the focus on height / volume instead of estethics has lead to way too much bad architecture in Trondheim. Actually, I think they should focus more on both in the central city, and primarily on estethics in other parts of Trondheim. IMO, rådmannen has some valid points in this case, although most of the people in here don't agree....

Quick update on a couple of construction sites: First, the "Kunnskapssenteret" - last building of St.Olav Hospital - which has just started rising above the ground
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CoIG0aSPILw/Toyzva-hKkI/AAAAAAAABy0/QsjCJiOuJr4/s1024/IMG_0501.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ce6xYVplWDo/Toyzvu7NoII/AAAAAAAABzA/kXNulBHcfRM/s1024/IMG_0502.JPG

And a close-up of some of the slabs being used for the "Olav Kyrres Plass", looks to be high quality! :)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sJCrjfKRu4U/Toyzv6eLKEI/AAAAAAAABy4/hOdd8xC4lBQ/s1024/IMG_0503.JPG


The next pictures are from the eastern side of Strindheimtunnelen, with the new 3-level intersection and the new shopping center "Leangen Senter"

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-s_iI_j9TzH4/ToyzwoILXhI/AAAAAAAABy8/HkYpalUR9OY/s1024/IMG_0504.JPG
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-r1gQCW6Y2PA/ToyzxS8lASI/AAAAAAAABzE/i8Q-XkloDKI/s800/IMG_0507.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3lvnlFiYXa8/Toyzx41Uo6I/AAAAAAAABzI/1pT_IiuOqso/s1024/IMG_0509.JPG

Clarion has published a promo website and video of Brattøra Hotel here:

http://www.clariontrondheim.no/video


And I found this one on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaenZRznBJE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

The finest short cut in town Article (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1708508.ece)

By June 2012, pedestrians and bicyclists can get from Lade to Strindheim by way of the new crossing bridge and tunnel across the Nordlandsbanen and Meråkerbanen rail lines. The council claims it will be the finest short cut in town, although not for motorists.

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01239/LADE-16-9_1239700c.jpg
(image: Rambøll)

The finest short cut in town Article (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1708508.ece)

By June 2012, pedestrians and bicyclists can get from Lade to Strindheim by way of the new crossing bridge and tunnel across the Nordlandsbanen and Meråkerbanen rail lines. The council claims it will be the finest short cut in town, although not for motorists.


It's high time that there comes a link between the northern/southern side of the rail lines in this area. I am however unsure about how smart exactly this shortcut is, making a 360 degree loop between the two lines. Surely, there must have been other and better ways to make it??

Cool picture Tronnelon, did you take it yourself? I'd like to have a hi-res version of it .. please :) Compliments also to the Clarion promo video !

Elgesetergate 55-57

Development of Elgesetergate 55-57 is slowly going forward. This is a mulighetstudie and reguleringsplan for the site made by Studio 4 Arkitekter (http://www.studio4arkitekter.no/).

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6859/elgesetergate551.jpg
Illustration by CADMAN (http://www.cadman.dk/)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1808/elgesetergate552.jpg
Illustration by CADMAN (http://www.cadman.dk/)

Trondheim Økonomiske Høgskole has decided to move to this building. The building will be completed in 2013.

TØH til Elgeseter
http://www.p4.no/story.aspx?id=434069

P4 (Lillehammer): Trondheim Økonomiske Høgskole flyttes til Elgeseter gate. Nå har nemlig styret i Høgskolen i Sør-Trøndelag vedtatt at skolen ikke lenger skal holde til på Moholt. Det nye bygget skal stå ferdig i 2013.

Rema får hjelp av stjernearkitekter
http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article1712697.ece

Snøhetta, som har tegnet operaen, skal designe butikk i Kroppanmarka.

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01240/REMA_DAG__1240547c.jpg

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01240/REMA_kveld___1240548c.jpg

Well, I'm still flogging this horse:

Lerkendal Innovasjonssenter. Skyscrapercity (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=58876011&postcount=330) Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/2181-lerkendal-innovasjon)

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/XL800397.jpg

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/XL800400.jpg

Seems like this thing is rising pretty fast now, after a veeeery slow start in the pit to get it above the ground. But what about the housing part of the project? Still in the blue I'm afraid. Has this now in reality been split into two separate projects (and even two different developers ??)

As far as I know, the commercial part was first all along.

That is very nice. See what bring the timehttp://s01.flagcounter.com/mini/fcPpr/bg_F5F5FF/txt_F5F5FF/border_F5F5FF/flags_0/.jpg

Under Dusken, the leading university students' publication, says there will be six, seven-floor student apartment buildings at Lerkendal by 2014, in agreement with the developer SiT and Skanska. This means housing for just over 610 students.

Hi guys, if I may ask, is trondheim the university town of norway? just asking, thanks!

Yes. And also Oslo, Bergen, Stavanger, Kristiansand, Tromsø, Bodø and, er... Ås.

^^I thought Ås was the University town. All the others are cities, aren't they? (not including Bodø and their "university")

Yes. And also Oslo, Bergen, Stavanger, Tromsø and Bodø.
those are like, 6 cities in all. that's very good!

Grimstad/Kristiansand...

A little research provided this info:

Norges teknisk-naturvitenskapelige universitet (NTNU)
Universitetet i Agder (UiA)
Universitetet i Bergen (UiB)
Universitetet for miljø- og biovitenskap (UMB)
Universitetet i Nordland (UiN)
Universitetet i Oslo (UiO)
Universitetet i Stavanger (UiS)
Universitetet i Tromsø (UiT)


http://www.universitet.no/Norske_universiteter/Godkjente_universiteter_i_Norge.html

http://www.adressa.no/meninger/article1716729.ece

(About hightrises)

For tredje gang prøver Samfundet å realisere nybygg på Fengselstomta. Finansieringen er på nytt det største hinderet i veien mot mål.
...
Både Samfundet, NTNU og kommunen er nå optimister, til tross for tidligere fadeser. I 2003 falt det første konkrete forsøket i grus, før man i 2006 igjen måtte innstille prosjektet, like før byggestart.

Skisseplanen som nå ligger på bordet er en integrert løsning mellom NTNU og Samfundet. Samfundet ønsker et bygg på omkring 1200 kvadratmeter med tilsvarende kjellerarealer, der resten av Fengselstomten skal selges til NTNU.

Article in Under Dusken (http://www.underdusken.no/kultur/2011/10/1516046/%E2%80%93+realistisk+%C3%A5+se+ferdigstilt)

http://www.underdusken.no/image/1516220/h=/b=725
(Illustration: Pir II)

Reading that article in "Under Dusken" just makes me depressed over the extremely bureaucratic process needed to make this happen...:ohno:

Which actually makes the following commentary in Aftenposten, all the more poignant:

http://www.google.no/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aftenposten.no%2Fmeninger%2Fkronikker%2FDet-regelstyrte-samfunn-6680989.html&ei=x92pTrKfAcr-4QSK79XwDw&usg=AFQjCNERJkKug2dxBjbJ5ct052bnqjK-cg

Notice where the authors work...

There is a building under construction at the south end of the Gløshaugen university campus, roughly 5 floors tall. It's right next to the Lerkendal rail station / SINTEF offices. Does anyone know what project this is?

Kan det være dette?

http://www.nina.no/Aktuelt/Artikkel/tabid/945/ArticleId/885/-Gleder-oss-til-Gloshaugen.aspx

^^ its probably that one he is talking about, u/c for a while now, i know i've written a bit about it + renderings 2 or 3 years ago but can't seem to find it on SSC. Anyway, its the same thing as on PIR II's website (http://www.pir2.no/prosjekter/kontorbygg-nina/).

Yup, that's it! I've totally missed it. Mostly because it hasn't featured in mainstream media.

It's NINA allright. It's a good while since they spudded, but from what I figure the construction seemed to be put on hold for a while due to a NIMBY neighbour complaint to "Fylkesmannen". That was however overruled, so i think the construction has quite recently started up again.

Out of the ruins of the old KBS shopping centre comes the new Sirkus Shopping. The article has pictures and an introductory video from the builders.

Adressa (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article1721931.ece)

Én forandring er at det nye kjøpesenteret alene blir dobbelt så stort som det gamle. 35 000 kvadratmeter over to etasjer skal fylles med 100 butikker.

Det gamle senteret var rundt 15 000 kvadratmeter stort, og rommet 48 butikker.

I tillegg kommer et eget helse- og velværesenter i 3., 4. og 5.-etasje. Rundt 40 aktører kommer til å holde til her.

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01242/sirkus2_1242430c.jpg
(foto) Narud Stokke-Wiig arkitekter

That video i didn't get at all!

It doesn't look like much from the renders... How can this be larger than City Syd?

City Syd covers 38000 m2 and has 71 businesses today and will therefore be smaller than Sirkus, at 72000 m2 and roughly 100 businesses.

Adressa (http://www.adressa.no/forbruker/article1722018.ece)

I can't remember the last time I read a positive comment on anything concerning city development on adressa.no..

Adressa (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/nordtrondelag/article1722712.ece)
Östersundsposten (http://op.se/lanet/ostersund/1.4074060-el-pa-merakerbanan-klar-fem-ar-tidigare)


Tirsdag skal det formelt vedtas å starte en organisasjon for å fremskynde elektrifiseringen av jernbanen mellom Trondheim og Storlien. Men ifølge varaordfører Arne Braut i Sør-Trøndelag fylkeskommune, dette så godt som klart

– Jernbaneverket og Trafikverket har lagt en plan for elektrifisering, men det handler om ti år frem i tid. Det har vi ikke tid til å vente på, sier han til Östersundsposten.

^^Good news. I hope they get them starting before 2015. It's a much needed upgrade.

Adressa (http://www.adressa.no/sport/article1724367.ece)

Byggesøknad. Avslag. Utsettelse av byggestart. Ny byggesøknad. Nytt avslag og nok en utsettelse av byggestarten.

Dette er i korte trekk den korrespondansen som har foregått mellom Trondheim kommune og utbygger av det nye Toppidretts-senteret i Granåsen de siste fire årene. Stadig er det noe som mangler og byggestarten får nye datoer på løpende bånd.

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01242/granaasen_1242883c.jpg
Photo: Voll Arkitekter

I just discovered this page on Kjeldsberg Eiendoms web. I don't think the illustrations featured here has been posted on this forum before.


http://www.kjeldsberg.no/Kjeldsberg-Eiendom/Prosjekter_eiendom/trondheim-naringspark/

^^ they have, its like 2-3 years old. ;)

Does someone have some pictures of the new shopping center on Hakon VII's Gate, near Burger King??

I would like to see how it look when is finished, I was around while it was under construction.

Does someone have some pictures of the new shopping center on Hakon VII's Gate, near Burger King??

I would like to see how it look when is finished, I was around while it was under construction.

I don't have any pictures, but I visited there yesterday. It's branded as "Lade Arena", so basically an extension of the existing Lade Arena, although across the street and not under the same roof. It's a looong building. This part has only large chain "superstores" like XXL, Living, Bomøbler, Biltema, Elkøp etc.

Not too exciting i think. I believe this is an effect of the terms the city administration set for the development, that only "plasskrevende varer" was allowed. Of course, these chains has all sorts of small stuff in addition to their larger products.

I have been waiting for this one... :nuts: (about the warfs in Fjordgata that burned down 17. Mai 2007) http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article1730226.ece

I have been waiting for this one... :nuts: (about the warfs in Fjordgata that burned down 17. Mai 2007) http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article1730226.ece

Yes, this case was brought up in the paper back in April too. It's so tragic, stupid and depressing that it is hard to find the words! :bash: I wrote this blog post (http://essenzes.blogspot.com/2011/04/vernehysteriet-og-myndighetenes.html) about it at the time.

It shows that there is no limit to the extreme NIMBYism in the city administration in Trondheim. They will do all that they can to prevent development, rather than do the opposite - promoting it - which ought to be their job. They now sadly function as "museum guards", making everyone pay for it and making the city less attractive. :ohno:

"Vil tillate nye brygger likevel

Politikerne trosser rådmannen i høydekrangelen."
http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article1730470.ece


Looks like they finally came to their senses..

"Vil tillate nye brygger likevel

Politikerne trosser rådmannen i høydekrangelen."
http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article1730470.ece


Looks like they finally came to their senses..

Weird that it took 3,5 hours from Adressa published the first article until the next one came with happy news, what would the "gang" at city-hall do without the papers? :happy:

So suddenly NOW the politicians finally have come to their senses and will intervene?? It's only gone 4 years for Christ's fucking sake!!
Question (interviewer): - "Burde ikke politikerne grepet inn på et tidligere tidspunkt for å få dette ordnet?"
Reply (Brox) "Både ja og nei."

Unbelievable!! Either it has taken too long or it has not. Clearly it has. In cases where the "Rådmann" is against something, he should still pass it to the politicians in "Bygningsrådet" for a political decision. If he doesn't, the politicians may ask for it anyway, which seems to be what they now have done, 4 years too late.

As well as 9 mill kr only in planning and lawyer costs for one of the developers, you could probably another 25 Mill for lost rental for 5 years. On top of that I think it's worth at least 10 kr for every time any person passes this eyesore. Estimating conservatively that 3000 people passes it every day makes it worth 10 mill pr. year or 50 mill for 5 years. Yeah, perhaps I'm taking this a bit far now, but no doubt this kind of stupidity is hurting everyone. What in God's name have we done to deserve to be governed by such imbeciles???

Edit: And they still don't want to permit balconies..... which in this case actually makes the façade look better imo

... and to top it off, the administration are going "Gosh, I hope we haven't done anything to impede the process in any way". Indeed... :shifty:

I agree on the balconies, though. It will look better without them.

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01244/Brygge_fjordgata_u_1244300c.jpg
Foto: PKA, Snorre Myrseth, Bark Arkitekter

I posted 2 new drawings on Skyscraperpage: Trondheim Tower and Lerkendal Hotell.

The current Norway diagram:
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=52855231

I posted 2 new drawings on Skyscraperpage: Trondheim Tower and Lerkendal Hotell.

The current Norway diagram:
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=52855231

Nice! :)

Nice, but in my opinion these diagrams would be far more interesting if they included buildings that are not neccessarily office or apparment towers, such as TV-towers (Tyholttårnet at 124 m and Tryvannstårnet at 118 are Norwegian examples), Cathedrals (Nidarosdomen is 98 m), and lighthouses (Sletringen is 45 m). All these buildings also have walls, windows, and staircaises (and sometimes elevators), and often dominate the city scapes. What would Paris be without the Eiffel tower, and Berlin without its TV-tower? OK, this is probably not the right place for my rant...

Nice, but in my opinion these diagrams would be far more interesting if they included buildings that are not neccessarily office or apparment towers, such as TV-towers (Tyholttårnet at 124 m and Tryvannstårnet at 118 are Norwegian examples), Cathedrals (Nidarosdomen is 98 m), and lighthouses (Sletringen is 45 m). All these buildings also have walls, windows, and staircaises (and sometimes elevators), and often dominate the city scapes. What would Paris be without the Eiffel tower, and Berlin without its TV-tower? OK, this is probably not the right place for my rant...

Like this?
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=52876480

Constructionstart for Ladebyhagen next winter?

http://www.obos.no/arch/_img/9950456.jpg
http://www.obos.no/?did=9950446

Like this?
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=52876480

Yes, certainly better, but you need to be a skyscraperpage expert to get that non-default view. Also, the oil platforms are missing, but I guess these are mainly in international waters.

Another definition could be buildings, in which case the pylons and guyed masts will be left out.

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01244/UFFA_visualisering_1244852c.jpg

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/01244/UFFA6_1244844a.JPG

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/archive/01244/UFFA7_1244846a.JPG

Adressa (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1732955.ece)

Crap. They're wasting that phenomenally situated plot on a clubhouse, shaped like a small gas station, when they could have used it for some real urban development. And UFFA would have all the space they could want if they'd only considered moving to Svartlamon.

Troll A plattform:

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?compare=23582

Rebuilding the UFFA house on this plot is utterly ridicelous. Such a central plot should rather be sold to private investors for some proper urban development purpose.

Rambøll suggest moving the central station to Lerkendal in case of high speed rail.
http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article1734898.ece
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01245/Alternativer_jernb_1245298c.jpg

Personally, as much as I'd like to have an HSR connection between Norway's major cities, I think it's the wrong way to spend enormous resources. Norway has a seriously underdeveloped road network, and the first priority should be to get road connections of an international standard. That means minimum 2+2 and 130 km/h motorway standard consistently. This road should (obviously) go outside of all the small towns along the way, and thus enabling these places to develop nicely without the detrimental effect of an E6 or E16 splitting through them. It's only in Norway that intercity traffic is routed through every single village along the way.

I've seen HSR cost estimates of 250 MNOK/km, while a motorway is 50 MNOK/km, probably a bit more including intersections and tunnels/difficult terrain, but still way way cheaper than an HSR. The Trondheim-Oslo HSR route alternative through Østerdalen will have 36% of its length in tunnels. That is a whopping 180 km of tunnels. A motorway will benefit on a much larger scale than an HSR imo. It will save many lives every year, affect and save far more peoples travelling times, improve goods transport by truck drastically, in addition to the before mentioned effect on small towns.

A motorway in Norway has an average cost of 150 MNOK/km.

In many ways I agree with you. The problem is that HSR will compete with both air traffic and road traffic. While roads will only compete with the existing railway traffic. And for a government that thinks all problems will be solved with lower Co2 emissions, less air and road traffic, and more railway traffic is the perfect solution.

Hi guys, if I may ask, is trondheim the university town of norway? just asking, thanks!A little research provided this info:

Norges teknisk-naturvitenskapelige universitet (NTNU)
Universitetet i Agder (UiA)
Universitetet i Bergen (UiB)
Universitetet for miljø- og biovitenskap (UMB)
Universitetet i Nordland (UiN)
Universitetet i Oslo (UiO)
Universitetet i Stavanger (UiS)
Universitetet i Tromsø (UiT)


http://www.universitet.no/Norske_universiteter/Godkjente_universiteter_i_Norge.htmlI don't think it's too bold to say that Oslo, Trondheim and Bergen are in a league of their own though.

I don't think it's too bold to say that Oslo, Trondheim and Bergen are in a league of their own though.

If one is to look at for instance number of PhDs, then yeah, there definately is a big difference between the historic universities and the new ones. This is numbers from 2009 (before there was a university of Nordland):

Universitetet i Oslo er den største «produsenten« av doktorgrader. I fjor disputerte 435. Ved NTNU i Trondheim tok 314 doktorgrad, Universitetet i Bergen hadde 233, Universitetet i Tromsø 104, Universitetet for miljø og biovitenskap 67, Universitetet i Stavanger 12 og Universitetet i Agder 3

If one is to look at for instance number of PhDs, then yeah, there definately is a big difference between the historic universities and the new ones. This is numbers from 2009 (before there was a university of Nordland):

Universitetet i Oslo er den største «produsenten« av doktorgrader. I fjor disputerte 435. Ved NTNU i Trondheim tok 314 doktorgrad, Universitetet i Bergen hadde 233, Universitetet i Tromsø 104, Universitetet for miljø og biovitenskap 67, Universitetet i Stavanger 12 og Universitetet i Agder 3And these three cities also host other university level institutions.

But I only think of Trondheim as a "university city/town", while both Bergen and Oslo are just cities with universities in them imho.

Pengene styrer på torvet (http://www.adressa.no/meninger/article1735353.ece)

Fresh update photos from three building sites, all taken today!

Kontorbygg NINA: Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/6293-kontorbygg-nina)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/XL800405.jpg

Lerkendal Innovasjonssenter: Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/2181-lerkendal-innovasjon)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/XL800407.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/XL800409.jpg

Kanalhotellet: Urbika (http://www.urbika.com/projects/view/3949-kanalhotellet)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c136/arntf/Urban%20Trondheim/XL800410.jpg

Another update of Lerkendal Innovasjonssenter.
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/5398/trondheimconstupdate1.jpg

And the congress center beside Clarion. Me like its organic shaped facade!
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3384/trondheimconstupdate2.jpg

Trondheim council has doublebooked itself:

Adresseavisa (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1738312.ece)

Trondheim council has doublebooked itself:

Adresseavisa (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1738312.ece)

Another horrible example of the total lack of competency to look ahead by the city administration. But of course, equally ridiculous is the "40-years in planning" road connection by the state (Statens Vegvesen), which has caused this whole area too freeze...Anyway, seems like there's been absolutely no communication between the municipality and the state here ..:ohno:

A map of the regulation plan with the new road was made public yesterday and can be found here:http://www.vegvesen.no/_attachment/288968/binary/509836

It's good to know that my tax is coming to good use...
40years is normal planning time i guess, E6 trough Melhus was also planned for about 40 years, and the result wasn't that good either (2+2, 1+1, 2+2, 1+1 etc)
Suppen bru has also been on the paper since the 60's i think.
Get some Chinese or Japanese guys to plan and build! (anything but norwegians)

http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01247/asveien-1_1247309c.jpg


Adresseavisen (http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/byasen/article1743770.ece)

The new Åsveien primary school will be the latest in a series of new educational buildings in Trondheim, when it's finished in 2015.

They couldn't possibly have made it any flatter than that....

Ill be fixing up this thread and the section this evening. I will move some of the biggest projects out of this thread into its own threads and so on. Meanwhile it will look a bit messy. Ill also get a introduction thread up and running later on.

Byggestatus, 29.Des 2011.

Lerkendal Innovasjonssenter
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/656/lerkendalinnovasjonssen.jpg

Kontorbygg NINA
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/916/kontorbyggnina1.jpg

Great photos, did you break into Holtermannsveien 1 for that?

^^ who said anything about breaking in? :)

Byggestatus ved Strandveien 43 og Sirkus SHopping. Bildene ble tatt idag, 31. Des 2011.

Strandveien 43
http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/8672/strandveien1.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

Sirkus Shopping

Fasaden begyner å ta form og etter moderne fasade-arkitektur i Trondheim er det en samme type mørkegråe fargen som skal dekke størsteparten av senteret
unntatt boligene på taket. Hadde faktisk håpet om at det kanskje kunne se hakket mer likt den mer sølv-gråe å skinnende fasaden de framstilte i illustrasjonene,
bare for å ikke se ut som alle andre gråe fasader i byen. Fasaden er ikke helt tragisk, men ser billig ut og vil fort eldres.

Slik ser fasaden ut på den mest detaljerte illustrasjonen/tegningen.
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3005/kbsfugleperspektivx1100.jpg

Så til bildene jeg tok idag.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/955/sirkusshoppingdes7.jpg

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/8084/sirkusshoppingdes8.jpg

Sett fra taket mot vest. Den østligste (nærmest Strindheimkrysset) (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Architecture/KBSKjpesenter1SMALL.jpg) av de tre L-formede løfter seg.
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9008/sirkusshoppingdes1i.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8431/sirkusshoppingdes2.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2719/sirkusshoppingdes5.jpg

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/8517/sirkusshoppingdes6.jpg

Selve kjøpesentret føles svært så kompakt ut, her blir det mange små butikker, iallefall mot øst. Større og mer åpent mot vest.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/3449/sirkusshoppingdes4.jpg

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9739/sirkusshoppingdes3.jpg

Igjen er jeg imponert over din evne til å ta deg inn på forskjellige steder..hehe. Nye Berg studentby ser forresten veldig tett og bra ut i bakgrunnen på det bildet av NINA-tomten. Sirkus shopping: Den typen svart/koksgrå fasade har nå blitt brukt plenty de siste årene, er det ikke mulig med litt egenart eller kreativitet? Til tross for noen røde horisontale striper og en trekantformet matt/blank tekstur, kunne jeg gjerne tenkt meg å ha sett noe mer spennende for en gangs skyld snart.

Nye Berg studentby ser forresten veldig tett og bra ut i bakgrunnen på det bildet av NINA-tomten

Ja den gjør det, synd det er heller lite variasjon i arkitekturen da men, kan jo ikke gjøre noe anderledes enn de andre studentbyene i byen (Moholt, Voll st.byer osv.)

Oppdatert beskrivelse og illustrasjoner til Verftsgate 2 (Verftstomta). Byggingen starter i Mai.

ARC Arkitekter (http://www.arcarkitekter.no/) tegner et nytt kontor og forretningsbygg på Verftsgata 2 ved Bakke bro. Bygget er 6-etasjers er i tråd med
reguleringsplanen som ble vedtatt i 2008. Prosjektet består av 3 lameller tverrstilt på elva. I bakkant mot Dokkgata er lammellene sammenkoblet og
trappet ned til en etasje for å tilpasse seg dimensjonen på eksisterende bebyggelse. Mellomrommet mellom lamellene er overdekket av glasstak og
glassgårdene vil bli benyttet som felles kantine og servering. 1. etasje rommer offentlig utadrettede funksjoner som skal bidra til å aktivisere
området. Det er planlagt serveringsteder langs elva og butikklokaler mot Dokkgata. Langs kaifronten vil det bli opparbeidet en offentlig
gangforbindelse helt fra Nedre Elvehavn til passasjen under Bakke bro. Mot Bakke bro, vil det bli opparbeidet et sydvendt offentlig plassrom.

Bygget er på 15 000m2 og byggestart er i mai 2012 med en planlagt byggetid på 18mnd slik at bygget blir ferdigstilt i November 2013. Blandt
leietakere er Adressa den største som flytter fra sine kontorer på Heimdal.

Oppdaterte illustrasjoner fra 2011.
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/281/verftsgate28.jpg

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3760/verftsgate23.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/5968/verftsgate22.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/338/verftsgate26.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1826/verftsgate24.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7/verftsgate21.jpg

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3186/verftsgate25.jpg

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7937/verftsgate27.jpg

Tidligere illustrasjon fra 2008.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y136/cityw/Skyscrapercity/Verftstomta3.jpg

Tidligere illustrasjon fra 2007.
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/2115/verftstomtaarkitek68688.jpg

Kan ikke huske å ha sett dette her lagt ut enda:

ARC Arkitekter tegner 31 000m2 med kontor, forretning, lager og lett industri ved Statoil-stasjonen på Nardo. Planarbeidet for Torbjørn Bratts veg 11, Nardovegen 4B og 6 startet opp sommeren 2011 og pågår.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2103/torbjrnbrattsveg111x100.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2889/torbjrnbrattsveg112x100.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4205/torbjrnbrattsveg113x100.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9889/torbjrnbrattsveg114x100.jpg

Det siste der ser ut som en videreutvikling av den eksisterende bygningsmassen, om de ikke har tenkt å rive alt da...

Jeg liker de nye tegningene for verftstomta. Ser ut til å føye seg godt inn med den eksisterende bebyggelsen.

Forøvrig; har det blitt gjennomført et språklig policy-skifte?

Jeg liker de nye tegningene for verftstomta. Ser ut til å føye seg godt inn med den eksisterende bebyggelsen.

Det ser ganske greit ut, liker det bedre enn de fasadene de presenterte i de gamle tegningene. Er dog mulig det kanskje blir litt vel brunt å grått i den virkelige verden, blir interesant å se hvordan det faktisk blir når den tid kommer.

Forøvrig; har det blitt gjennomført et språklig policy-skifte?

Ja, blir Norsk på lik linje med Engelsk i under-seksjonene nå, så bruk det du vil. Grunnen til det er at jeg/vi vil at under-seksjonene skal bli mer lokal og kanskje bli mer attraktivt for flere brukere lokalt i stedet for å være åpen for at resten av brukerne på SSC kan komme å lese alt på Engelsk.

De siste illustrasjonene for Verftstomta er det beste så langt, selv om det går over samme lest som de tidligere liker jeg bedre det noe mer klassiske uttrykket. Jeg vet ikke om det tildels bare er høyere kvalitet i selve renderingene, men det virker ihvertfall mer gjennomarbeidet med flere detaljer. Måten vinduene feks. er innfelt i fasaden, med de små vinduene over hvert av de store (siste illustrasjon) lover bra.

Torbjørn Bratts vei ser kurant nok ut antar jeg, ihvertfall sammenlignet med det som er i nærområdet der fra før av. Tror resultatet avhenger mest av hva de velger å ha på bakkeplan, og byggekvaliteten i fasadene. Og så kunne de jo gjerne ha fjernet den Statoil-stasjonen i samme slengen da...

illustrasjoner til Verftsgate 2 (Verftstomta)

Oppdaterte illustrasjoner fra 2011.
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/281/verftsgate28.jpg


Hehe, "lamellene" forsvinner mer og mer ser jeg. Snart er det vel bare en enkel blokk. Synes fremdeles tegningene fra 2007 ser best ut. De nyere gir litt billig-vibber i forhold til fasadekledning og vindusutforming. Positivt, dog at de ser ut til å ha forstått at de to nederste etasjene må utformes best mulig for å skape et godt bymiljø rundt bygningen. En naturlig fortsettelse av byen rundt!

^^ hvorfor quote alle bildene? ;)

Dette er Trondheim, her blir ikke bygg godkjente før de ser billig ut. :sleepy:

Fordi jeg kan!

:smug:

I had not seen the midtbykvaratalet project mentioned here before . It looks good.
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/7530/midtbykvartalet3x1000.jpg

Jugend-byens forfall (http://www.adressa.no/meninger/article1751176.ece)

Jugend-byens forfall (http://www.adressa.no/meninger/article1751176.ece)
I'm pretty sure that Oslo got more Jugend buildings than both Ålesund and Trondheim despite what that article says. They probably represent a smaller percentage of our building stock though. Here are some of our buildings:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=84637017&postcount=140

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=86823979&postcount=158

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83929853&postcount=134

^^yep. The article-author thinks the Christiania-crack lasted for decades, but construction activity started to catch on ~4 years later.

I had not seen the midtbykvaratalet project mentioned here before . It looks good.

Yes, infills like that are always welcome!

I'm pretty sure that Oslo got more Jugend buildings than both Ålesund and Trondheim despite what that article says. They probably represent a smaller percentage of our building stock though.I tried to google it, but couldn't find any numbers.

Here are some of our buildings:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=84637017&postcount=140

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=86823979&postcount=158

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83929853&postcount=134Looking at those pictures it strikes me that the Trondheim/Ålesund and Oslo styles are quite distinct. Below are some examples from Trondheim.

http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~torgerk/architecture/trondheim/kulturarv/e_c_dahls_stiftelse.png

http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~torgerk/architecture/trondheim/kulturarv/forretningsbanken.png

http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~torgerk/architecture/trondheim/kulturarv/det_engelske_kvartal.png

http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~torgerk/architecture/trondheim/kulturarv/jugendkvartalet.png

http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~torgerk/architecture/trondheim/kulturarv/hovedpostkontoret.png

I tried to google it, but couldn't find any numbers.

I doubt you will find any concrete numbers however if I had to take a guess then I would say that perhaps 10% of our historic 19th century/early 20th century buildings are built in jugend style.

Looking at those pictures it strikes me that the Trondheim/Ålesund and Oslo styles are quite distinct. Below are some examples from Trondheim.


Well, we have quite a lot of different jugend buildings besides the one I linked that have very a little in common with each other looks wise. But I agree to extent too: It can seems to me like Trondheims jugend architecture is more about the (often very crude) stones used and the actual shape of the buildings, whereas Oslos jugend architecture is more about the decorations/ornaments while the actual shape and materials used don't really differ from the rest of our historic buildings.

Here are a couple of Google maps link to some other jugend style buildings:

http://maps.google.com/?ll=59.927652,10.716895&spn=0.003892,0.013937&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=59.927806,10.717201&panoid=p5br4naifl0WiCce7ynebg&cbp=12,304.05,,0,-33.74

http://maps.google.com/?ll=59.928377,10.718172&spn=0.003763,0.013937&t=h&vpsrc=0&layer=c&cbll=59.928751,10.71754&panoid=JOEiSDp-uCBMhh57z17Aow&cbp=12,113.66,,0,-24.13&z=17

http://maps.google.com/?ll=59.920479,10.710195&spn=0.003915,0.013937&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=59.920479,10.710195&panoid=2KcoLJjpjtFjTTcDhYD6kw&cbp=12,186.95,,0,-15.1

http://maps.google.com/?ll=59.918097,10.703516&spn=0.001957,0.006968&t=h&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=59.918097,10.703492&panoid=-m8s7whjqhax0X6-o78c3w&cbp=12,233.61,,0,-29.87&z=18

http://maps.google.com/?ll=59.920544,10.704145&spn=0.003915,0.013937&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=59.920544,10.704145&panoid=v9WK8dmVnuzhFpP0Z6SDVA&cbp=12,129.51,,0,-19.47

http://maps.google.com/?ll=59.92025,10.730982&spn=0.001893,0.006968&t=h&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=59.92018,10.731352&panoid=FLPnmZIHcPCpmLo4ZIqLhA&cbp=12,165.44,,0,-25.08

http://maps.google.com/?ll=59.923369,10.735225&spn=0.001893,0.006968&t=h&z=18&vpsrc=6&layer=c&cbll=59.923476,10.735198&panoid=M474qlGZUooTmnC6_yvR7Q&cbp=12,47.24,,0,-21.31

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Kampenjazz,+B%C3%B8gata,+Oslo,+Norway&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=59.912547,10.779602&spn=0.001883,0.006968&sll=59.925808,10.72352&sspn=0.001893,0.006968&vpsrc=6&hq=Kampenjazz,&hnear=B%C3%B8gata,+Oslo,+Norway&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=59.912547,10.779602&panoid=ufAPI9NGpb_q_x8CM9oOnQ&cbp=12,140.8,,0,-26.74

Well, I hope all the cities in Norway take care of their Jugend buildings, as it is an important part of our architectural inheritance. You have to wonder what they were thinking, but this building was actually covered up with Eternit plates after the war and until the late Eighties, as the owners supposedly though it made it look more modern.

http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~torgerk/architecture/trondheim/kulturarv/jugendkvartalet.png

If only there was a good-looking Jugend building underneath all the crap post-war façades... hehe

^^ Ah, that's similar to what was done here in the city: Good looking commercial building built in 1903 in jugend style. Reclad in the '70s with concrete plates which is how it currently looks like. Standing at one of the most central squares in the city (at Stortorvet). Absolutely awesome.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=75787673&postcount=52

^^ Wow, that is a real shame. Do you suppose the old façade is completely destroyed underneath?

^^ No idea, but the upper part of it is at least. I hope it can be reconstructed sometime in future though. :)

Here is btw a high rez version of the picture where you admire all the details it once had: http://v3.cache5.c.bigcache.googleapis.com/static.panoramio.com/photos/original/64410523.jpg?redirect_counter=2

Holy Moses!! What were they thinking of?? The 60s and 70s was an awful time for architecture. And not only the looks of it is bad, but the technical building quality as well. This is clearly demonstrated f.ex in many schools from that time period, which have had to be torn down and rebuilt. While school buildings from the early 1900s are still standing.

^^ btw, du foreslo en pils en kveld, å nå passer det bra frammover no som jula e åver!

Flere trønder-forumere som hiver seg med på en pils en kveld ett eller annet sted på by'n?

Holy Moses!! What were they thinking of??
I think they thought that kind of architecture was "foreign"/un-Norwegian and not something that fitted in a nation that have just been under foreign occupation by the Nazis, while the heritage people considered them as leftover after old Kristiana and poor copies of our "proper" heritage like the ruins that had recently been discovered in Gamlebyen. We sadly lost many good looking 19th century buildings as a results of this line of thought (probably). A shame indeed.

:)


But I guess that this is off topic ...

^^ btw, du foreslo en pils en kveld, å nå passer det bra frammover no som jula e åver!

Flere trønder-forumere som hiver seg med på en pils en kveld ett eller annet sted på by'n?

Det kan jeg være med på, hva med i kveld? Jeg liker Naboen på Bakklandet, for utvalgets skyld...

50 millioner - ingen høyere? (http://www.adressa.no/meninger/article1752960.ece)
http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01249/signert0601_1249594c.jpg

Det kan jeg være med på, hva med i kveld? Jeg liker Naboen på Bakklandet, for utvalgets skyld...

Kan også være med i kveld, og gjerne på Naboen.

PS. Siden dette er off-topic, er det bedre å ta diskusjonen på Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Skyscrapercity-Norway/144697235622152?sk=wall#!/pages/Skyscrapercity-Norway/144697235622152?sk=wall&filter=1)?

E me på dennj. Tok bare opp det her ettersom jeg ikke er sikker på om hvor mange brukere som er med på facebook-gruppa. Tar det der franå av.

Det er nå halv 7 fredags kveld og iflg webcamen (http://www.helsebygg.no/static/html/webcam3.html) ser det ut som de driver på med å støpe gulvet på 3. etasje.

http://129.241.181.14/oneshotimage.jpg?ud=1?ud=2?ud=3?ud=4?ud=5?ud=6?ud=7?ud=8?ud=9?ud=10?ud=11?ud=12?ud=13?ud=14?ud=15?ud=16?ud=17?ud=18?ud=19?ud=20?ud=21?ud=22?ud=23?ud=24?ud=25?ud=26?ud=27?ud=28?ud=29?ud=30?ud=31?ud=32?ud=33?ud=34?ud=35?ud=36?ud=37?ud=38?ud=39?ud=40?ud=41?ud=42?ud=43?ud=44?ud=45?ud=46?ud=47?ud=48?ud=49?ud=50?ud=51?ud=52?ud=53?ud=54?ud=55?ud=56?ud=57?ud=58?ud=59?ud=60?ud=61?ud=62?ud=63?ud=64?ud=65?ud=66?ud=67?ud=68?ud=69?ud=70?ud=71?ud=72?ud=73?ud=74?ud=75?ud=76?ud=77?ud=78?ud=79?ud=80?ud=81?ud=82?ud=83?ud=84?ud=85?ud=86?ud=87?ud=88?ud=89?ud=90?ud=91?ud=92?ud=93?ud=94?ud=95?ud=96?ud=97?ud=98?ud=99?ud=100?ud=101?ud=102?ud=103?ud=104?ud=105?ud=106?ud=107?ud=108?ud=109?ud=110?ud=111?ud=112?ud=113?ud=114?ud=115?ud=116?ud=117?ud=118?ud=119?ud=120?ud=121?ud=122?ud=123?ud=124?ud=125?ud=126?ud=127?ud=128?ud=129?ud=130?ud=131?ud=132?ud=133?ud=134?ud=135?ud=136?ud=137?ud=138?ud=139?ud=140?ud=141?ud=142?ud=143?ud=144?ud=145?ud=146?ud=147?ud=148?ud=149?ud=150?ud=151?ud=152?ud=153?ud=154?ud=155

Hmm, litt forundret over at det fortsatt er full aktivitet på der såpass sent. Ikke at jeg syns det er noen dårlig ting, men det skal ikke stå ferdig før om 657 dager iflg. hjemmesiden til Helsebygg..

E me på dennj. Tok bare opp det her ettersom jeg ikke er sikker på om hvor mange brukere som er med på facebook-gruppa. Tar det der franå av.

Naboen i kveld fra ca 2000 og et par timer framover.

^^ :cheers:

Byggestatus Strinda VGS. Bilde tatt fra Tyholttårnet idag.
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4851/strindavgsjan20121x1100.jpg

Byggestatus Miljøbyen Granåsen. Bilde tatt idag.
http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/1112/miljobyengransenpanoram.jpg

Fin utsikt fra Tyholttårnet til anleggsområdet for Strinda VGS ja. Drondeimr, har du noe materiale på Charlottenlund Videregående som ble ferdigstilt denne uken? Det er vel en ganske stor skole, ca. 1200 elever hvis jeg husker riktig...

^^ skal få tatt en god del bilder av Charlottenlund VGS så snart vær og tid tillater det! :)

Illustrasjon av Felt B3 i Miljøbyen Granåsen. B3 blir lagt ut for salg i disse dager og har 42 leiligheter.

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/2151/41601733454120656370522.jpg

Byggetrinn 2 (Felt B2) i Charlottenlund Vest (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=87338065#post87338065) ligger også ut for salg i disse dager. B1 skal ha startet bygging nå. B2 kommer vel senere i år.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6500/charlottenlundvest4x100.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7268/charlottenlundvest2x100.jpg

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6702/charlottenlundvest3x100.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_ZvCRCkemHlM/TVRCuSdwPuI/AAAAAAAABBY/bBfyLdhqwjc/Lade%20alle.jpg

There's a new socalled "områdeplan" (area plan) for a part of Lade along Lade Alle. There are a few alternatives for the development of this area, and the above illustration is - in my mind - one of the better. This is part of an Illustration Attachment (26 Mb) (http://www.trondheim.kommune.no/attachment.ap?id=35086) for the case found on the homepage of Trondheim Kommune. The plan is sent for a hearing with the following Vedtak og Saksfremstilling (2.7 Mb) (http://www.trondheim.kommune.no/attachment.ap?id=35099). The whole case with all documents is found here (http://www.trondheim.kommune.no/content/1117697637/Lade-Alle-59-73,-omradeplan).

The above illustration is the Carré suggestion from the land owners. Basically there are 4 alternatives: the first one is Lamelles :doh:(or Lamelle Hell as I'd call it!) the second is Carré, the third is a mixture, and the 4th is called "dense and low". For all the alternatives, Trondheim Kommune has made their preferred option (option B) for all of the alternatives, which basically consists of cutting down the heights from 6 to 4 floors.

And now to the my view in the matter: Kommunen (the Municipality) has time and time again stated that they will continue their densification strategy for our little city. However, when it comes to the actual decisions they continue to show their difference in what they say and what they do. The land owners' plan has an exploitation factor of 140% while the Kommune says max 110%. This is unfortunate because - as most of us urbanists agree on - you need density to create a thriving urban environment. You also need density for good architecture, because it will make the economics better, and allow for better quality with the same margins. It is of course also better in an environmental aspect (the last thing should at least be something kicking in fort the red-greens!)

The plot here is 55 dekar (55.000 m2), and it certainly has the potential to become a new "bydelssentrum" (local hub) for Lade. But it requires a way of thinking that i miss from the beauracrats and the politicians. They still act like it's ok to allow for new developments and buildings, as long as they are not too visible:bash:. Believe it or not. It's the way they always do it, and I am sick and tired of it. They take photographs from certain vantage points, sketches up the buildings in it, and then the less you see of it, the better it is! HOW on earth can you ever make good architecture and a cityscape that pleases the eye that way!

They also think too much in larger geographical zones (residential, commercial) instead of having mixed developments. How to create a good street? Simple: You need public activity at the ground floor, and walking distance between the various stores or public functions. And then you can have flats on the upper floors. This is basically how all the cities were built until around WWII, and it is what still constitutes the city cores everybody like to walk around in whether as a tourist or a local.

Ok, this got a bit lengthy, but it just got my mind spinning around the bigger picture here, since this is an "Områdeplan" after all ;) And it also awakened some of my gathered up thoughts around the issue. Anyway, it's on "a hearing": Let them know what you mean!

Omsider, tok meg nesten et års tid, men om noen ikke gidder å se gjennom så har jeg lagt ut alternativene her (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=87351040#post87351040).

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/7017/ladealle5973alt2a.jpg

^^ So apparently 4 floors is all the area can take according to Trondheim kommune (looking at their suggestions)? :ohno: That's just stupid. It seems like they just want to reduce the density out of principle as I have hard time believing anyone can think 5 floors is too much.

^^ Trondheim Kommune's forslag er rett og slett håpløse.

Uansett, lagde litt fort et alternativ for meg selv.

I grove trekk om bygningshøydene:
Sola ligger som regel sør til sør-vest/øst, derfor hadde det vært greit å fått litt lav bebyggelse mot sør slik at det blir godt med sol inn i
bygårdene. 6 etasjer som grunneierne foreslår blir derfor litt i høyeste laget. 4 etasjer mot Lade Alle er også greit, kanskje ned i 3 etasjer
flere steder for å slippe litt sol over til bebyggelsen nord for veien litt senere på året. Om vinteren er sola såpass lav at det spiller ingen rolle
uansett! Midt i mellom, men hovedsaklig litt mor nord ville jag ha gått for langt høyere bebyggelse enn det de alle foreslår, 8,10 og helt opp i
12 etasjer er helt greit så lenge dette er slanke tårn, ikke enorme klosser. Hadde også vært greit om de hadde kjørt på med litt mer variasjon
i byggehøyder enn de alternativene som ligger ute. I alternativet nedenfor tok jeg utgangspunktet i Carré som er favoritten.

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3751/egetalternativx1000a.jpg

Må bare nevne Ranheim Panorama, et boligprosjekt på Reppe som havner på rundt 90 leiligheter fordelt på flere blokker og hus.

Ranheim Panorama

Ranheim Panorama er et nytt boligprosjekt på området Sveen, øverst på Ranheim / nederst på Reppe. Dette er et todelt prosjekt, den ene med
leiligheter og den andre i hus. Leilighetene er fordelt i 4 bygninger, hvor hver av bygningene har 19 leiligheter fordelt på 4 etasjer og parkering i
underetasjen. Alle bygningene har samme struktur og fasader. Langs bygningene, mot sør er det lagt ut flere tomter som skal bygges i hus. Første
hus, tegnet av Niels Qvortrup er et hus på 190m2, med 5 soverom og 2 stuer.

Reguleringsplan
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3407/reguleringsplanranheimp.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3508/5plx.jpg

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Se illustrasjonene i høy oppløsning (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=87379041#post87379041)

Illustrasjoner av eksteriør på blokkene
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Illustrasjoner av interiør på blokkene
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Illustrasjoner av Hus 1
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^^ So apparently 4 floors is all the area can take according to Trondheim kommune (looking at their suggestions)? :ohno: That's just stupid. It seems like they just want to reduce the density out of principle as I have hard time believing anyone can think 5 floors is too much.

Ser jeg ikke har fått med meg siste nytt om saken. Siste er at bystyret har vedtatt (ble vedtatt 24.11.2011) at Lade alle 59-73 ikke skal overskride
en utnyttelse på 125% BRA. LINK (http://www.trondheim.kommune.no/content/1117707264/Lade-Alle-59-73-omradeplan). Det betyr at de møttes på midten, grunneierne ønsket utnyttelse på 140% BRA, mens Trondheim Kommune
ønsket 110%.

Dette er en del av bestemmelsene:
- Grad av utnytting innenfor planområdet skal ikke overstige 125 % BRA og ikke være mindre enn 80 %.

- Det skal legges vekt på høy kvalitet i den arkitektoniske utforming, detaljering og materialbruk. Det skal lages fargesettingsplaner for de ulike
detaljplanene.

- Bygningsvolumer bør plasseres i retning nordøst/sørøst på tomtearealet mot Lade Allé. Det bør være åpninger mellom nye bygninger mot Lade Allé,
slik at fotgjengere og syklister har visuell kontakt med uterommene i ny bebyggelse. Dette er også viktig for å få gode solforhold på gang- og
sykkelvegen. Bebyggelse langs lokalgata skal ha et bymessig preg med henvendelse mot gata.

- Bebyggelsens gesimshøyder og/ eller mønehøyder skal ikke overstige kotehøydene som er vist på plankartet, eller 4 etasjer. Det tillates 5 etasjer
på maksimalt 50 % av hvert felt dersom det kan dokumenteres i detaljplaner at femte etasje ikke bryter landskapssilhuetten i fjernvirkning sett fra
Rønningen gård ved Kuhaugen.

- Forretningene skal ikke ha areal over 650 m² BRA pr. bruksenhet og ikke over 3000 m² BRA totalt i hele planområdet. Forretningene skal ha
inngang direkte fra gateplan.

- Minimum 90 % av biloppstillingsplassene innen hvert felt skal etableres i p-anlegg under terreng eller integreres i bebyggelsen.

- Innenfor felt B1, B2, B3, B4 og B5 skal det etableres boliger.
I en overgangsperiode fram til godkjent detaljregulering, kan ombygginger innenfor eksisterende bygningsmasser tillates uten at dette utløser krav
om formålsendring.

- Innenfor felt BF1, BF2 og BF3 skal det etableres boliger, men det tillates etablert forretninger i første og andre etasje. Det tillates også
tjenesteytende virksomhet som f.eks. legekontor, treningsstudio, opplæring og administrasjon.

Alle planbestemmelsene (PDF) (http://www.trondheim.kommune.no/attachment.ap?id=40987)

Plankart som ble vedtatt:
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/2981/ladeplankartx1000.jpg
Åpne i større format JPG-fil (4000x2869 | 3.13Mb) (http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3395/ladeplankartx4000.jpg) eller i PDF (3.65Mb) (http://www.trondheim.kommune.no/attachment.ap?id=40991)

^^ Thanks for the update on the case.
^^ Trondheim Kommune's forslag er rett og slett håpløse.


Without intending to offend anyone: It appears to me like Trondheim is the large city in Norway that takes the densification and expansion of the inner city least serous. It still appears like low density, car based suburbia is preferred building style. Do you think I'm being unfair? :)

^^ unfair? i couldn't agree more on that Trondheim is probably the city of the larger cities in Norway that takes denification, urbanisation and expansion of the city centre + public transport development the least serious! And i am pretty sure several other Trondheim forumers feel the same!

Its why i want Nyhavna and many other sites near Midtbyen to wait until we see a major change in the view and opinion by the politicians taking all these decisions on the city development. Sadly, changes like that doesn't come over night.

There is a quite large area at Saupstad where vegetation has been cleared and construction began. Has anyone seen any details?

Trondheim is now the most expensive city in the World.

http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/okonomi/article1754762.ece

Når jeg først nå og omsider tar meg tid til å lese igjennom bestemmelsene til ulike prosjekter på Lade (Ladebyhagen, Nye Leangen Områdesenter, Lade Alle 55-73 og Ladalen KS) blir jeg, hm.... depresiv! Her blir samtlige prosjekter, som fra begynnelsen av allerede er relativt dårlige bilbaserte senter-prosjekter tvunget redusert, spesielt i byggehøyder pga. siktlinjer. Også begrunner de det med av hensyn til siktlinjer fra Nidarosdomen og Kristiansten Festning (WTF???) til Lade Gård og Lade Kirke. Og jeg som nesten hadde trodd (eller har hatt lyst til å tro) at det kun var selve Midtbyen som var "fredet" fra nybygg høyere enn 5 etasjer! Men nei da, på Lade får de ikke bygge høyere enn 4 etasjer selv om det allerede står ei blokk på 12 etasjer midt i området!

Fins det en smart skjel her som kan fylle ut litt om hva iallverden er det de tenker i kommunen? Nå vet jeg at de har bestemt at ingen bygg i Trondheim skal konkurrere med Nidarosdomen, noe mange har spurt seg om; hva i all verden forslags bestemmelse er det? Føler at det er ganske så utrolige argumenter som begrenser eller setter stopper for mange prosjekter her i byn. Det er ganske så tydelig at dette medvirker til en enda dårligere byutvikling og elendig arkitektur. Hvordan kan dette bedre "Naboskapet" rådman?

Sånn litt på siden: Forstår at det er mange problemer relatert til trafikkavikling i området og derfor også en av bestemmelsene for at bygningsvolumene vedtas mye mindre enn hva grunneiere og utviklere ønsker seg, men nå er kollektivtrafikken her også elendig, og ikke planlagt å bli betydelig bedre i de reguleringsplanene kommunen har bestemt.

Blir depressiv å sitte her å legge ut elendige prosjekter etter prosjekter i den Prosjektoversikts-tråden min (ikke at alle prosjektene på Ranheim gjør ting bedre!)! Noen skulle ha gjort noe! :D

Building low is almost a religion with some people in Trondheim. It is a lose-lose situation that affects the architecture, the number of new flats built, the viability of light rail solutions, etc.

Når jeg først nå og omsider tar meg tid til å lese igjennom bestemmelsene til ulike prosjekter på Lade (Ladebyhagen, Nye Leangen Områdesenter, Lade Alle 55-73 og Ladalen KS) blir jeg, hm.... depresiv! Her blir samtlige prosjekter, som fra begynnelsen av allerede er relativt dårlige bilbaserte senter-prosjekter tvunget redusert, spesielt i byggehøyder pga. siktlinjer. Også begrunner de det med av hensyn til siktlinjer fra Nidarosdomen og Kristiansten Festning (WTF???) til Lade Gård og Lade Kirke. Og jeg som nesten hadde trodd (eller har hatt lyst til å tro) at det kun var selve Midtbyen som var "fredet" fra nybygg høyere enn 5 etasjer! Men nei da, på Lade får de ikke bygge høyere enn 4 etasjer selv om det allerede står ei blokk på 12 etasjer midt i området!

Fins det en smart skjel her som kan fylle ut litt om hva iallverden er det de tenker i kommunen? Nå vet jeg at de har bestemt at ingen bygg i Trondheim skal konkurrere med Nidarosdomen, noe mange har spurt seg om; hva i all verden forslags bestemmelse er det? Føler at det er ganske så utrolige argumenter som begrenser eller setter stopper for mange prosjekter her i byn. Det er ganske så tydelig at dette medvirker til en enda dårligere byutvikling og elendig arkitektur. Hvordan kan dette bedre "Naboskapet" rådman?

Sånn litt på siden: Forstår at det er mange problemer relatert til trafikkavikling i området og derfor også en av bestemmelsene for at bygningsvolumene vedtas mye mindre enn hva grunneiere og utviklere ønsker seg, men nå er kollektivtrafikken her også elendig, og ikke planlagt å bli betydelig bedre i de reguleringsplanene kommunen har bestemt.

Blir depressiv å sitte her å legge ut elendige prosjekter etter prosjekter i den Prosjektoversikts-tråden min (ikke at alle prosjektene på Ranheim gjør ting bedre!)! Noen skulle ha gjort noe! :D
Agree with what you said here Þróndeimr. I think it's shame though, as Trondheim got a lot of potential with the old cathedral, young student population and strong growth (like elsewhere in the country). Yet you seem to insist on using this growth to fund more and more sprawling suburbia, and whenever someone actually comes up with something urban and/or exciting then it's all about reducing the height, density, the design and in turn every quality it may have had. Of course this is something all Norwegian cities are doing to a certain degree, but - like I said - Trondheim appears to be worst of the bunch.

I think the government should put higher pressure on councils to follow through with densification of our cities. Maybe we can then start building infrastructure in and between our cities rather than around them.

We have a lot a learn from the likes of Spain here, that's certain at least.

Statoil is planning to expand the research centre at Rotvoll.

http://www.t-a.no/nyheter/article192747.ece

Skal opp i neste møte i bygningsrådet.

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^^ hm, jasså så de har gått litt videre med forslaget fra ARC. Bra noe skjer da men liker ikke helt tanken på at det skal se så tradisjonelt ut som i de illustrasjonene. Ser ut some noe de sikkert godkjenner.

Utifra sakspapirene ser det absolutt ut som at de har tilpasset dette i dialog med administrasjonen (og de utall av instanser som skal si sin mening, eksempelvis fylkeskommunen) slik at det skal kunne legges frem med "anbefalt godkjent"-stempel fra rådmannen. Jo mer jeg leser slike papirer, jo mer oppgitt blir jeg over byråkratiet i dette landet.

Men uansett, positivt at dette hjørnet blir bygd opp. Selv om vi selvfølgelig alltids kunne tenkt oss noe større.

^^ ikke bare større, litt "finere" er noe vi også trenger så sårt!

What will the cladding be made of? Looks like "sponplate" in the render.

Akkurat dette prosjektet imøteser jeg med glede. Det ligger innenfor det "historiske området" og det er åpenbart at mye blir gjort for å imøtekomme både det eneste gjenværende toetasjers bygget i kvartalet og de andre bygningene.

Situasjonen på Lade er det værre med, men jeg velger å tenke langsiktig. I denne omgangen vil det komme mange fortettingsprosjekter med lavere utnyttingsgrad enn ønsket (av oss). Men byens innbyggertall vil fortsette å vokse, og behovet for å beskytte matjord og natur vil bestå (eventuelt også forsterkes). Derfor vil det etterhvert vokse frem et behov for bygging i høyden som overgår behovet for fjordutsikt.

Ok... da snakker vi nok i et 30-50 årsperspektiv... ;)

Forøvrig vil jeg hilse til alle dere her inne og si ifra om at jeg kommer til å bli noe mindre aktiv framover, da min sønn nr 2 snart kommer til å bli født. Snart er jeg bleieskiftarbeider igjen :)

Akkurat dette prosjektet imøteser jeg med glede. Det ligger innenfor det "historiske området" og det er åpenbart at mye blir gjort for å imøtekomme både det eneste gjenværende toetasjers bygget i kvartalet og de andre bygningene.


Jeg synes denne tankegangen fører sjelden med seg mye positivt. Resultatet blir gjerne et bygg som ser nesten historiskt ut, men samtidig ikke pg.a. manglende detaljer og dermed ender opp som en billig kopi som gjør at hele området føles billig og litt "Disney". Samtidig mister man selvsagt også sjansen til å bygge et nytt bygg med spennende og moderne design som kan heve området. Jeg synes det er bedre å enten bygge opp hva som stod der før eller bygge et nytt bygg med moderne design. Det er nå i hvert fall min mening.

... Og gratulrer med snart en ny sønn. :)

Endelig har jeg fått fiksa meg ny PC! Mens pc'n var nede ble det tatt noen updates:

Ilsvika Extra (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=87077936#post87077936)
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8745/ilsvikaextra1.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8030/ilsvikaextra2.jpg

Charlottenlund VGS ( )
Denne ble fullført før jul. Riving av de gamle byggene er i full gang.

Fasade mot sør og vest.
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/503/charlottenlundvgs1.jpg

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4060/betweenbar20pixelsssc.jpgInngangsparti mot sør.
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4060/betweenbar20pixelsssc.jpghttp://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9058/charlottenlundvgs3.jpg

Fasade vest.
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Fasade mot øst.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/289/charlottenlundvgs4.jpg

Bleken vil frede torvet i Trondheim (http://www.adressa.no/kultur/article1765748.ece)

Yes, send Riksantikvaren to Trondheim and lets pray he never comes back!

Danske vinnere i 120 Hours-konkurransen (http://www.arkitektnytt.no/danske-vinnere-i-120-hours-konkurransen)
Det var studentene Kasper Reimer og Thilde Orluf fra Arkitektavdelingen ved Det Kongelige Danske Kunstakademi i København som mottok 1. premie i konkurransen om boligbygging i Moursundveita i Trondheim
http://www.arkitektnytt.no/danske-vinnere-i-120-hours-konkurransen?pid=MySite-Article-ArticleImage&r_n_d=40855_&adjust=1&x=576&from=0
Illustrasjon: Arkitektstudentene

I like that. :)

Kjørte akkurat forbi tomta til Udbyes Gate 1 og observerte en gravemaskin og gjerdeelementer. Ser ut som byggestart nærmer seg på et av byens mer urbane boligprosjekt :)

Kjørte akkurat forbi tomta til Udbyes Gate 1 og observerte en gravemaskin og gjerdeelementer. Ser ut som byggestart nærmer seg på et av byens mer urbane boligprosjekt :)

Gode greier! Av andre sentrale boligprosjekter bør vel også byggestart for "Speilet" på Nedre Elvehavn være rett rundt hjørnet.

Nja. Utvikleren påstod at bygging var igangsatt allerede i forrige ukes avisbilag, men så langt står det kun plakater på tomta. Kan godt sette ræv i gir, syns jeg...

FOLKEMØTE OM BYUTVIKLING I TRONDHEIM I KVELD:
- Lar næringslivet styre for mye

http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/trondheim/article1773179.ece