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HARTride 2012
November 10th, 2009, 06:52 PM
Sen. Bill Nelson: health reform imperative, oil drilling risky, commuter rail transformative

By Janet Zink and Tony Marrero, Times Staff Writers
In Print: Tuesday, November 10, 2009

TAMPA — U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson on Monday took the Florida Legislature to task over offshore oil drilling and commuter rail in Tampa, and told Brooksville voters the country must have health care reform.

Health care concerns dominated an event in Brooksville that Nelson had billed as a veterans forum.

"If we don't do something about health care, it's going to run our country into bankruptcy," Nelson told the crowd gathered at City Hall.

Lawrence Adkins, 62, of Brooksville said he worried that the bill could result in cuts to senior health care programs.

"Do you think the senator from the state with such a large number of seniors is going to let that happen?" Nelson said with a smile, prompting chuckles from the audience. "What we're going to do is insist on efficiencies — and I don't mean cuts, I mean efficiencies — so the United States can afford it."

Nelson said he pushed an amendment in the Senate Finance Committee that would allow the government to secure prescription discounts from drug companies for Medicare and Medicaid patients. The measure could save more than $100 billion over 10 years, but got shot down in committee.

Nelson said he would try again when the debate comes before the full Senate.

"I'm going to try to shame them when we get to this issue to the floor," he said.

Earlier in the day, at a Greater Tampa Chamber of Commerce luncheon, the Democratic senator said he expects the Senate to ultimately will pass a health care bill, but one more moderate than the House bill, which he called "tilted a bit to the left."

He also expressed dismay that some of Florida's legislative leadership is intent on drilling within 3 miles of the state's west coast, thinking it will add billions of dollars to state coffers.

Nelson said it would take 10 years to realize any financial benefit even if drilling produces oil, which he doubts. Past attempts, he said, have been dry holes.

Nelson said he opposes drilling off the Florida coast in part because of its potential negative impact on the state's tourism industry, but also for national security reasons.

"This is the largest testing and training area for the U.S. military in the world," Nelson said of the eastern Gulf of Mexico. He quoted a letter from former U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld who said oil drilling there is incompatible with military activities. A similar letter from Robert Gates, the current defense secretary, is forthcoming, Nelson said.

He's not against all drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. "Just keep it out of the testing area," he said.

Nelson also urged the Florida Legislature to show support for commuter rail in the Miami and Orlando areas during a special session in December.

That will be critical to winning a portion of the $8 billion in stimulus money President Barack Obama has made available for high-speed rail lines throughout the country, he said.

A line connecting Tampa to Orlando is considered a top contender for the money. Much of the right of way for the project already has been acquired, and environmental studies have been completed.



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randommichael
November 12th, 2009, 09:02 PM
When do I get to vote this guy out?

HARTride 2012
November 13th, 2009, 03:35 PM
2010 I think. If Nelson ends up voting FOR the flawed healthcare plan, I will vote him out of office along with Kathy Castor.

randommichael
November 13th, 2009, 06:52 PM
2010 I think. If Nelson ends up voting FOR the flawed healthcare plan, I will vote him out of office along with Kathy Castor.

Ditto.

FloridaFuture
November 13th, 2009, 10:38 PM
2010 I think. If Nelson ends up voting FOR the flawed healthcare plan, I will vote him out of office along with Kathy Castor.

2012. He was re-elected in 2006 and senators serve 6 year terms.

Bobdreamz
November 14th, 2009, 12:09 AM
Sorry guys but I voted for him and everything he says sounds quite sensible to me. You want oil rigs 3 miles off your coast? Healthcare reform will happen no matter what but there is no final bill yet. Are all of you opposed to funding commuter rail systems in Miami & Orlando? Seems to me funding these two systems will ensure HSR and Tampa benefits over Miami which is already building a station to accomodate it if they ever get it.

HARTride 2012
November 14th, 2009, 12:22 AM
2012. He was re-elected in 2006 and senators serve 6 year terms.

Oh then, well, even better, then I can vote Obama out of office if it turns out to be that we're in even worse of a situation than we were back in March, which is likely.....no imminent!

FloridaFuture
November 15th, 2009, 04:56 AM
Yeah, Nelson is ok, but if he votes for the healthcare plan similar to what the House passed, he's done from my point of view.

HARTride 2012
November 15th, 2009, 08:48 PM
^^
That's what I said also. He votes yes on that and I'm done with him...

randommichael
November 16th, 2009, 04:44 PM
^^
That's what I said also. He votes yes on that and I'm done with him...

Ditto. I voted for him in 2006. Even though I voted for Obama, he has most likely lost my vote in 2012.

HARTride 2012
November 23rd, 2009, 03:02 PM
After Saturday's developments in the US Senate, I'm officially done with Bill Nelson. I will vote him out of office in 2012. :ohno: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:

FloridaFuture
November 23rd, 2009, 03:32 PM
Well, he voted to bring it to the floor, we still have to wait for the final vote.

HARTride 2012
November 23rd, 2009, 05:44 PM
^^
Yeah, but that alone pretty much did it for me......

jonknee
November 23rd, 2009, 07:07 PM
^ Lest we have a debate...

Bobdreamz
November 23rd, 2009, 10:48 PM
well HART considering you opened up a thread asking if Obama was becoming a tyrant I think you were done with the Democrats even before Nelson voted yes on healthcare.

John F
November 23rd, 2009, 11:28 PM
well HART considering you opened up a thread asking if Obama was becoming a tyrant I think you were done with the Democrats even before Nelson voted yes on healthcare.

he was "done" with the Democrats long before that. He voted yes on Amendment 2.

HARTride 2012
November 24th, 2009, 01:10 AM
well HART considering you opened up a thread asking if Obama was becoming a tyrant I think you were done with the Democrats even before Nelson voted yes on healthcare.

I've had it with the Dems unfortunately. I hope this thing gets fillabustered to DEATH AND DIES ON THE FLOOR! Obama is clearly trying to make the US a communist country. I like many here on this forum were led into believing that "change" will come. Yeah.....WHAT CHANGE?!

Bobdreamz
November 24th, 2009, 02:31 AM
^ well considering my own family comes from communist Cuba I can rest assure you Obama is no Commie but if you want to swallow that far right wing spiel knock yourself out.

jonknee
November 24th, 2009, 04:04 AM
I've had it with the Dems unfortunately. I hope this thing gets fillabustered to DEATH AND DIES ON THE FLOOR! Obama is clearly trying to make the US a communist country. I like many here on this forum were led into believing that "change" will come. Yeah.....WHAT CHANGE?!

What specifically is he doing to make us a communist country? Healthcare?We're the only major industrialized country that doesn't have universal healthcare and all of the serious proposals (including the one you're freaking out over) will continue to make us one of the most private systems in the world. It would be much cheaper to go single payer, but we're doing it the capitalist way and allowing the private sector to make more money than ever. That's not the best, but it's sure not communist.

You're probably still on your parents' insurance and may not fully realize how much of a mess the system is, but rest assured that it's a cluster. Go buy yourself a policy, for best results make sure you have a serious pre-existing condition. (And then try and use it!) Or start a company and shop around for insurance. You'll be shocked.

FlaNatv
November 24th, 2009, 06:31 AM
Even if I did agree with Universal Health Care, We simply can't afford it. We're already in so much debt...where is our breaking point?

Maxim98
November 24th, 2009, 06:43 AM
This is a forum for discussing the urban environment, and so it should be expected that politics come up for debate from time to time - in fact, I'm usually the one the moderators are asking to keep it apolitical. Having said that,

What the fuck are you people talking about? This right wing yapping needs to stop -- this isn't what we're here to talk about, and I think Jason would agree to that.

jonknee
November 24th, 2009, 07:27 AM
Even if I did agree with Universal Health Care, We simply can't afford it. We're already in so much debt...where is our breaking point?

We're already spending twice as much as everyone else per capita and they have universal coverage. Lack of money should not be a reason to avoid universal healthcare.

HARTride 2012
November 24th, 2009, 03:22 PM
^^
No we can't. And our debt will continue to spiral out of control. Obama clearly wants us to be in depression.....

HARTride 2012
November 24th, 2009, 03:23 PM
This is a forum for discussing the urban environment, and so it should be expected that politics come up for debate from time to time - in fact, I'm usually the one the moderators are asking to keep it apolitical. Having said that,

What the fuck are you people talking about? This right wing yapping needs to stop -- this isn't what we're here to talk about, and I think Jason would agree to that.

Yeah, I guess we should stop this now. Sorry on my own part.

And yes, I think with that said, its time to shut this thread down, unless there is a logical reason to keep it open.... :lock: