Croatia's no 3 city has a number of big projects happening.
The current biggest project which is going through final approval stages is the Rijeka West Shopping / Office / Hotel project.
This is on top of the vast shopping centre and office complex of "Rijeka World Trade Centre" now under construction by Italian Property Developers "Policentro".
This project is being proposed by the same company which is currently constructing "Zagreb Shopping City". (www.shopping-city-zagreb.com)
The Architects are "ATP" from both Vienna and Zagreb offices.
Project:
Shopping centre with 15 storey office tower on top of a glazed food pavillion enjoying spectacular views over the historic harbour of Rijeka. Adjacent 18 level hotel.
The developer is Austrian development firm Redserve GesmbH (Vienna)
I think a couple of we whinging before about the crappy bus station in Rijeka city centre which was way too small. Anyway, the city government is finalising planning for its replacement .....
Kompleks autobusnog kolodvora s poslovnim sadržajima i garažom, imovinsko-pravna priprema u tijeku i izrada prometno-tehnološke studije; DPU u planu 2004.
Parcela P cca 30 000 m2
max. BRP 88.000 m2; BRV 323.600 m3; garaža 1.000 PM
Rijeka suburban rail network and road infrastructure ....
Rijeka city council is planning a number of new stations (purple) on the existing rail corridors, hence forming a suburban rail network for the city. Part of the line passes underground. In addition to upgrades of major highways and motorways passing in and around the city .....
I think a couple of we whinging before about the crappy bus station in Rijeka city centre which was way too small. Anyway, the city government is finalising planning for its replacement .....
Rijeka really needs new bus station. The current one is really crap, actualy there is no station building, only few platforms, with a lot of people, buses, cars, very small and ugly. Rijeka deserves better and I am glad to see this project, I hope it is going to be realized very soon.
250 berth marina, retail, casino, hotel (400 bed), parking and entertainment complex for Rijeka waterfront. This is a city council initiated project ....
Another Rijeka City Council project that includes the following ...
Swimming complex consisting of inside and outside olympic sized swimming pools and minor pools. Also includes a sports hall.
Sportsko-rekreacioni kompleks. Ukupna vodena površina cca 3.000 m2 ; cca 7.000 m2 BRP
Zatvoreno plivalište 53 x 25; postojeće otvoreno plivalište 50 x 22 m; mali bazen 10 x 25 m; edukacija plivanja 10 x 6 m; saune, caffe; garaža cca 100 PM; strojarnica izgrađenog bazena, fitness 800 m2 BRP 5.000 m2
Urban renewal of old industrial complex located on Rijeka waterfront into a commercial zone. Council backed initiative. There is quite a lot of waterfront renewal happening in the city of Rijeka.
Postindustrijski kompleks; čine ga tri tvorničke hale i željeznička remiza
DPU u izradi.
Površina P cca 81.000 m2; postojeće hale ukupno: BRP 34.800 m2 i BRV 348.000 m3
Urban renewal of old industrial complex located on Rijeka waterfront into a commercial zone. Council backed initiative. There is quite a lot of waterfront renewal happening in the city of Rijeka.
Postindustrijski kompleks; čine ga tri tvorničke hale i željeznička remiza
DPU u izradi.
Površina P cca 81.000 m2; postojeće hale ukupno: BRP 34.800 m2 i BRV 348.000 m3
My goodness. Bubach you have done well to report on this one.
It looks like Rijeka will become the shopping mecca in our part of Europe. This is the third huge shopping centre released for construction in this city thereby giving it more of an edge over Zagreb which is a bigger city.
A project underway in the heart of central Rijeka which involves the construction of an 850 underground parking station which in turn is covered over by a pedestrian mall flagged by a series of buildings on either side.
The first 3 levels of the various buildings include retail at street level, followed by office in the first and second floors, capped by residential floors on top of this.
Ground floor retail/commercial area is 3.304 m2, and offices area is 8.720 m2. Total built area of the complex is 18.300 m2, 43.000 m2 with the garage.
BTW Bubach, that new shopping complex you announced is being built by Maurizio Zamparini who owns Palermo Football Club, he used to own Venezia soccer club previously. He has other projects in Zagreb, Osijek & Split.
@Sincity, they still didn't start constuction of new museum in Rijeka.
2 years ago when this design was chosen there were many discution in Croatia about those 2 museums (Zagreb and Rijeka) and who should get it first and when construction in Zagreb started before Rijeka, people said "not again, everything is being built in Zagreb, nothing in Rijeka". People actualy expect that Croatian Government shoud build everithing in their cities: museums, schools, streets etc, but at the same time they want more decentralization...
You can't believe how strong is antagonism between Zagreb and provinces. hno:
My goodness. Bubach you have done well to report on this one.
It looks like Rijeka will become the shopping mecca in our part of Europe. This is the third huge shopping centre released for construction in this city thereby giving it more of an edge over Zagreb which is a bigger city.
Yeah, it was kind of weird that this stuff appeared in Novi List and no one reacted on that, even Vecernji List, Vjesnik and Dnevnik havent mentioned anything about it yet - i would say it's not their business
I do like all new Rijeka projects, but gotta admit that for a moment i freaked out looking at the location of some projects...some are being built just a foot from the sea....it could be just me not being used to see such stuff blossoming near the sea kontinentalac
@Sincity, they still didn't start constuction of new museum in Rijeka.
2 years ago when this design was chosen there were many discution in Croatia about those 2 museums (Zagreb and Rijeka) and who should get it first and when construction in Zagreb started before Rijeka, people said "not again, everything is being built in Zagreb, nothing in Rijeka". People actualy expect that Croatian Government shoud build everithing in their cities: museums, schools, streets etc, but at the same time they want more decentralization...
You can't believe how strong is antagonism between Zagreb and provinces. hno:
That's correct LF.
I do not understand this antagonism between Zagreb and other cities either...it is not like citizens of ZG have to do something with decisions made by government.
I would call it a sindrom of inheritance from communism where everybody still expects too much from state to jump in and take care of everything. On the other hand people very often have no clue how much money actually goes from Zagreb to remote and such places.
That's correct LF.
I do not understand this antagonism between Zagreb and other cities either...it is not like citizens of ZG have to do something with decisions made by government.
I would call it a sindrom of inheritance from communism where everybody still expects too much from state to jump in and take care of everything. On the other hand people very often have no clue how much money actually goes from Zagreb to remote and such places.
Građani Zagreba zapravo plaćaju najveće poreze i s obzirom na najjaču ekonomiju u Hrvatskoj najviše uplaćuju u državni proračun iz kojeg država, paradoksalno, najviše gradi i investira izvan Zagreba (autocest i željeznica su najbolji primjer). A cijelo vrijeme ekipa iz provincija se žali, kao "sve ode u Zagreb, a nama ništa". Ja sam potpuno nepristran u svemu tome jer sam živio i u Dalmaciji i u Zagrebu (ali nisam ni Zagrepčanin ni Dalmatinac) i mislim da previše neopravdanih kritika ide na račun Zagreba, a osobito njegovih građana.
^^^ Takvo razmisljanje najvise dolazi iz gospodarski pasivnijih krajeva Lijepe nase, ali se i oni lagano trijezne. Predugo je vladalo ustaljeno misljenje da drzava treba otvarati radna mjesta i brinuti se za radnike. Drzava je jedino duzna stvoriti makroekonomsku stabilnost i sto je vise moguce pozitivno poslovno ozracje, i to je sve za sto se moze hvaliti ili kritizirati drzavu.
Kad mi netko pocne o tome cendrati samo mu spomenem Varazdin ili Bjelovar
Spomenuo bih ja i Istru, ali oni unatoc velikom bogastvu, jos uvijek kukaju, nevjerovatno.
...Inace, najveci apsurd u odnosu Zagreba i ostalih krajeva proizlazi iz cinjenice da Zagrepcana ima najmanje u saborskim i inim foteljama
^^^ Takvo razmisljanje najvise dolazi iz gospodarski pasivnijih krajeva Lijepe nase, ali se i oni lagano trijezne. Predugo je vladalo ustaljeno misljenje da drzava treba otvarati radna mjesta i brinuti se za radnike. Drzava je jedino duzna stvoriti makroekonomsku stabilnost i sto je vise moguce pozitivno poslovno ozracje, i to je sve za sto se moze hvaliti ili kritizirati drzavu.
Kad mi netko pocne o tome cendrati samo mu spomenem Varazdin ili Bjelovar
Spomenuo bih ja i Istru, ali oni unatoc velikom bogastvu, jos uvijek kukaju, nevjerovatno.
Istrijani ne kukaju zbog ekonomije, već zbog nečeg sasvim drugog, pogotovo onaj dio Istrijana čija prezimena ne završavaju na -ić već na -ti, ali bolje da sad ne otvaram tu temu, daleko bismo otišli...
I think the problem lies in the middle. There is a degree of animosity towards Zagreb at times but in essence its jelousy, but hey Zagreb's always carried that degree of wealth and prosperity and like LF says, they pay more than their fair share of taxes.
Really, the regionally cities need to be more proactive. I know in Zadar's case a lot of potential investment was lost due to dodgey officals and the place stagnated for a while, but the Croatian government should also lend a hand and often enough they themselves are a bit complacent.
Zagreb is the capital city, it will always hog the limelight, but the other cities should be more proactive, otherwise they should replace their politicians or quit bitching.
I'm glad Rijeka seems to have a progressive local government, something that cant be said about Split considering its number 2 city and one of the most rebellious towards Zagreb hno:
Ajme ljudi, pa zar stvarno mislite da je u drugim drzavama drugacije? Evo ja zivim u Münchenu, u nezavsnoj drzavi Bavarskoj. Zar stvarno mislite da se novci na sve regije i gradove u Bavarskoj ravnopravno slijeva? Ili kako je to u Austriji, Danskoj, Francuskoj, Engleskoj... ajme nema kraja toj listi. Da bi se to ukinilo trebo bi svaki grad ko kod starih grka proglasiti svoju Republiku. Sto se tice ekonomije... vi to dole neznate ali kao primjer u njemackoj je takva konkurencija medju gradovima da je to ludnica. Svi se sa svim sredstvima, financijski ili drugim obecanjima bore da dobiju novu investiciju ili da vec postojece "preduzece" nagovori da se preseli u drugi grad. Iako je to jedna drzava, mada federalna zbog povijesnih zbivanja nakon drugog svjetskog rata... tu nema milosti. Svako je za sebe odgovoran i svaka gradska vlas mora za svoj grad da brine. Nitko vam nece dati, morate traziti, biti cak i malo bezobrazni i naravno... no suvise lokalne vlasti gledaju na svoj dzep ili na svoje prijatelje ili frendove kojima ce radije prodati zemljiste da se napravi parkiraliste nego negi polovni toranj ili sta ti ja znam! Zato ste vi zaduzni da se takvi ljudi maknu ... koliko god oni bili slatki na jeziku! Kad se to desi i kad vec jednom prestanete stalno traziti krivca u Zagrebu, onda ce se i u Zadru, u Rijeci, u Splitu ... itd puno toga promjeniti! Eto u svakom slucaju nadam se da mi necete zamjerovati koju gresku u pravopisu ... puno lijepih pozdrava svima u forumu :cheers:
Ajme ljudi, pa zar stvarno mislite da je u drugim drzavama drugacije? Evo ja zivim u Münchenu, u nezavsnoj drzavi Bavarskoj. Zar stvarno mislite da se novci na sve regije i gradove u Bavarskoj ravnopravno slijeva? Ili kako je to u Austriji, Danskoj, Francuskoj, Engleskoj... ajme nema kraja toj listi. Da bi se to ukinilo trebo bi svaki grad ko kod starih grka proglasiti svoju Republiku. Sto se tice ekonomije... vi to dole neznate ali kao primjer u njemackoj je takva konkurencija medju gradovima da je to ludnica. Svi se sa svim sredstvima, financijski ili drugim obecanjima bore da dobiju novu investiciju ili da vec postojece "preduzece" nagovori da se preseli u drugi grad. Iako je to jedna drzava, mada federalna zbog povijesnih zbivanja nakon drugog svjetskog rata... tu nema milosti. Svako je za sebe odgovoran i svaka gradska vlas mora za svoj grad da brine. Nitko vam nece dati, morate traziti, biti cak i malo bezobrazni i naravno... no suvise lokalne vlasti gledaju na svoj dzep ili na svoje prijatelje ili frendove kojima ce radije prodati zemljiste da se napravi parkiraliste nego negi polovni toranj ili sta ti ja znam! Zato ste vi zaduzni da se takvi ljudi maknu ... koliko god oni bili slatki na jeziku! Kad se to desi i kad vec jednom prestanete stalno traziti krivca u Zagrebu, onda ce se i u Zadru, u Rijeci, u Splitu ... itd puno toga promjeniti! Eto u svakom slucaju nadam se da mi necete zamjerovati koju gresku u pravopisu ... puno lijepih pozdrava svima u forumu :cheers:
^^^Ma zezam se čovječe, ta grješka je obična lakrdija, nemaj brige. U zadnje se vrijeme u Hrvatskoj vode teške rasprave o tome je li ispravno greška ili gješka, zato sam to napisao.
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