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#1 ·
Which is it??

Tokyo, Paris, New York, London,........,..........,.........?
 
#169 ·
Every Stadium in Melbourne(Including Flemington Race Course (130,000))
Total Capacity : 906,247

Every Stadium in London
Total Capacity : 645,250

Every Stadium in Sydney
Total Capacity : 862,500

Every stadium in Los Angeles
Total Capacity : 331,000

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I've a feeling these numbers are wrong. I'll still post them anyway, in the off chance they're correct.

Source ~ Word Stadiums
 
#170 · (Edited)
What was your cut off? 20,000? 10,000? If 10,000, the Los Angeles area should be around 570,000 and the Bay Area (San francisco, san jose, oakland) should be close to 450,000


Now, I must say, that Sydney and Melbourne just impressed the lights out of me. Seattle's was decent for its size, with about 280,00 seats, but came nowhere near the Australian cities!
 
#177 ·
I figured a combination of numbers + history/culture + variety of venues. The history/culture would be hardest to decide, I'd just go by the events the stadium has held and/or how long theyve been around.

but I think variety is important, having a large number of events and sports really helps.
 
#181 · (Edited)
My vote goes to London of course....
...but here are the sports venues in Paris :



Stade de France, 81,000


Parc des Princes, 49,000 (50/53,000 in 2012/13)


Arena 92 (approved), 32,000


Stade Jean-Bouin (approved), 22,000


Stade Sébastien-Charléty, 21,000


Stade Robert-Bobin, 19,000


Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy, 16,000



National Handball Arena (project), 15,000


Roland Garros, Court Philippe-Chatrier, 15,000


Roland Garros, Court Central (approved), 15,000



Stade Olympique Yves du Manoir (Colombes), 14,000 (will be replaced by the National Handball Arena in 2013)


Vélodrome Olympique Jacques-Anquetil, 14,000


Stade Duvauchelle, 13,000


Stade Bauer, 12,000


Roland Garros, Court Suzanne Lenglen, 10,000


Stade de Marville, 10,000


Stade Pierre de Coubertin, 5,000


Palais des Sports, 5,000


Palais des Sports de Levallois, 5,000


Roland Garros, Court n°1, 4,000


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Hippodrome de Vincennes, 60,000


Hippodrome de Longchamps, 50,000


Hippodrome d'Auteuil, 45,000


Hippodrome d'Enghiens, 20,000

Hippodrome de Maison Laffitte, 20,000

Hippodrome de St-Cloud, 15,000
 
#344 ·
Yeah, yeah: everything is bigger in Texas...:bow:

BUT...but everything is posh in France
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My vote goes to London of course....
...but here are the sports venues in Paris :



Stade de France, 81,000


Parc des Princes, 49,000 (50/53,000 in 2012/13)


Arena 92 (approved), 32,000


Stade Jean-Bouin (approved), 22,000


Stade Sébastien-Charléty, 21,000


Stade Robert-Bobin, 19,000


Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy, 16,000



National Handball Arena (project), 15,000


Roland Garros, Court Philippe-Chatrier, 15,000


Roland Garros, Court Central (approved), 15,000



Stade Olympique Yves du Manoir (Colombes), 14,000 (will be replaced by the National Handball Arena in 2013)


Vélodrome Olympique Jacques-Anquetil, 14,000


Stade Duvauchelle, 13,000


Stade Bauer, 12,000


Roland Garros, Court Suzanne Lenglen, 10,000


Stade de Marville, 10,000


Stade Pierre de Coubertin, 5,000


Palais des Sports, 5,000


Palais des Sports de Levallois, 5,000


Roland Garros, Court n°1, 4,000


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Hippodrome de Vincennes, 60,000


Hippodrome de Longchamps, 50,000


Hippodrome d'Auteuil, 45,000


Hippodrome d'Enghiens, 20,000

Hippodrome de Maison Laffitte, 20,000

Hippodrome de St-Cloud, 15,000



So, Paris wins, doesn't it ??? :D
:runaway:
 
#187 ·
It includes horse racing tracks (though we call them racecourses in England).

I hadn't included motorsports but, come to think of it, Brands Hatch is, as good as dammit, in London.

It has a capacity of 150,000 - though I don't know how much of that is permanent structure or how much is temporary or just natural grass banks.

I guess there are also one or two small Speedway stadiums in the London area as well.
 
#184 ·
Charlotte Motor Speedway - 167,000 seated; 217,000 total
ZMax Dragway - 30,000
Charlotte Motor Speedway Dirt Track - 19,500
Metrolina Speedway - 10,000
Concord Motor Speedway - 9,000
Charlotte Motor Speedway Auxiliary Track - 6,000
Carolina Speedway - 5,500
Concord Motor Speedway Support Track - 4,500

Yea, probably not gonna include race tracks are we?
 
#190 ·
In the London metro area (I'm going to include those under construction):

Wembley (90,000)
Twickenham (82,000)
Emirates Stadium (60,432)
Stamford Bridge (42,055)
Craven Cottage (26,678)
Upton Park (35,303)
White Hart Lane (36,310)
Selhurst Park (26,309)
Loftus Road (18,200)
Griffin Park (12,763)
The Valley (27,111)
Brisbane Road (9,271)
The New Den (20,146)
Lords (29,000)
The Oval (23,500)
Madejski Stadium (24,250)
Vicarage Road (19,920)
Adams Park (10,000)
The Stoop (14,816)
Queen's Club (6,478)
Centre Court (15,000)
No. 1 Court (11,500)
No. 2 Court (4,000)
Crystal Palace National Sports Centre (15,500 expandable to 24,000)
Olympic Stadium (25,000 post-Olympics, 80,000 during)
Olympic Aquatics Center (17,500)
London Velopark (6,000 indoor and 6,000 outdoor)
Olympic Hockey Center (15,000 and 5,000)
Olympic Basketball Arena (12,000)
Olympic Handball Arena (7,000)
ExCeL Exhibition Centre (Four arenas averaging 8,000 each)
O2 Arena (23,000)


That totals 809,042. There are also a dozen or so stadiums that smaller football clubs play at and come in around 5,000 so add in roughly 60,000 there and you get 869,042. If you want to include stadiums that are expandable, the temporary seating the Olympics will bring and stadiums that will be under construction soon (new White Hart Lane), you get roughly 975,000. There are also probably some more venues I've forgotten.
 
#198 ·
Melbourne + Suburbs = Aprx. 1,027,200
Melbourne (as in, just Melbourne) = 906,247

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I don't think this thread is getting anywhere. Everyone is unsure what the OP meant by Stadium Capital of the Word.
Despite a rather unnecessary interlude, when debate was derailed by an argument about comparative sports attendances in the US and Europe, I think the thread has already got somewhere!

There appears to be a general consensus that, taking into account all factors - ie numbers of stadiums, size of stadiums, iconic nature of stadiums etc - London is the "stadium capital" in question.
 
#192 · (Edited)
It's hard to find exact city vs city comparisons for number of individual stadiums, and often they're actually out of the city limits in suburbs or within a state or province. And a stadium can seat a couple thousand up to 250,000 (Indianapolis Motor Speedway).

Countries with over 40 stadiums:
United States 1,808
Brazil 670
Germany 510
Spain 428
United Kingdom 365
France 306
Italy 289
South Korea 246
Canada 231
Poland 189
Finland 186
Australia 184
Turkey 177
Mexico 168
Switzerland 157
Japan 138
Portugal 113
Argentina 111
Sweden 92
China 86
Russia 85
Indonesia 84
Hungary 81
Romania 78
Ireland 77
Belgium 74
Netherlands 73
Colombia 69
Czech Republic 66
Norway 66
Chile 64
Ecuador 63
South Africa 62
Austria 61
Bulgaria 56
Ukraine 56
Uruguay 56
Greece 55
India 54
Morocco 52
Venezuela 49
Nigeria 48
Denmark 48
Peru 46
Pakistan 46
Iran 43

If you break down the United States by each state it's:
Texas 161
California 101
Florida 75
Ohio 69
Pennsylvania 56
Illinois 55
Michigan 54
North Carolina 54
New York 53
Indiana 48
Alabama 48
Georgia 47
Tennessee 46
Virginia 45
Louisiana 44
Wisconsin 42
Maryland 41
Washington 39
Missouri 37
Minnesota 36
South Carolina 36
Arizona 35
Colorado 33
Massachusetts 33
Arkansas 32
Iowa 31
New Jersey 30
Oregon 30
Oklahoma 29
Kentucky 28
Connecticut 28
Utah 27
Mississippi 26
West Virginia 23
Kansas 23
Nevada 21
Nebraska 20
New Mexico 19
Delaware 15
Idaho 15
New Hampshire 14
North Dakota 14
South Dakota 13
Montana 13
Alaska 13
Hawaii 11
Vermont 10
Maine 10
Rhode Island 10
District Columbia 9
Wyoming 6

Source: http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/stadium_list/100000.shtml
If someone wants to go into that website and count stadiums in each city, have at it.

Ha, Tokyo Racecourse has a capacity of 223,000 but only 13,750 seats.
 
#195 ·
list of some of the football clubs left off in the city and metro down to tier 8, adds up to 128,112.

Left off
Most non league clubs outside of the city
Lower league rugby clubs
smalller cricket grounds

metro
Southend United (12,396)
Luton Town (10,226)
Ebbsfleet United (5,011)
Gillingham (11,582)
Dartford (4,100)
Molesey (4,000)

city
Barnet (5,568)
Dagenham (6,000)
hayes and yeading (4,300)
wimbledon (sharing with kingstonian) (4,772)
Bromley (5,000)
hampton and richmond (3,500)
Welling united (4,500)
Carshalton athletic (5,000)
Harrow Borough (3,070)
Hendon (sharing with wembley) (3,000)
Hornchurch (3,500)
Sutton united (8,000)
wealdstone (sharing with northwood) (2,000)
tooting and mitcham (3,500)
Enfield (sharing with brimsdown) (2,000)
hillingdon borough (3,587)
Ilford (3,500)
Leyton (4,000)
Thamesmead town (6,000)
 
#196 ·
More metro football clubs

Grays athletic - 4,500
Crawley Town - 4,996
Stevenage Borough - 7,100
Woking - 6,036
Thurrock - 3,500
St albans city - 4,500
Staines town - 3,000
Maidenhead united - 3,000
Waltham abbey - 3,500
Canvey island - 4,308
Borehamwood - 4,502
Tonbridge angels - 3,000

Rugby union- guiness championship

London welsh - 5, 850
London scottish- 4,500

Cricket

county cricket ground, beckenham (kcc) 5,000
whitgift school, croydon (scc) 5,000
 
#201 ·
In terms of pure stadiums, it’s hard to look past London. The sheer number of football venues alone makes it at least a top 2 contender, and when you add Wimbledon Centre Court and its indoor arenas, it makes it even harder to beat.

But, and it’s a big but, if you were to extend this question, and ask, which city is the ultimate sporting city, then you would have to discount London as the ultimate sporting city. Because quite frankly, for the reason stated below, it’s not.

Yes London can host football matches, rugby, basketball, tennis and a whole lot of other sports, but unless the ocean suddenly erodes southern England until it comes up to London’s doorstep, you won’t be seeing it host salt water events any time soon. This is where cities like LA and Melbourne will always have it over London in these type of discussions. You see Melbourne and LA has the capabilities to host any event London can host, however, they go one better because they can also host sporting events which involve the ocean. London can’t. London can host rowing events in the Thames, as Melbourne can with its Yarra River, but you won’t ever see London host an Americas Cup, or a World Sailing Championship or ocean swimming championships or iron man events. It is physically impossible for London to host events which involve the beach or ocean. For that reason, London will always have a question mark over it.
 
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