Caroline Street hotel | Jewellery Quarter | 4 fl. | Comp.

Erebus555 · December 21st, 2009, 10:54 PM

I think this deserves it's own thread.

Developer: bloc
Architects: Bryant Newman Priest (architects of Rhubarb in Digbeth)
Location: Caroline Street, Jewellery Quarter
Number of rooms: 74
Application number: 2009/05831/PA

Street elevations:

Floorplans and room layouts:

No renders yet. It will be black brick though.

jolon · December 21st, 2009, 11:55 PM

Looks slick!

I assume natural light is an optional extra then!

Erebus555 · December 22nd, 2009, 12:01 AM

Well, it's a budget boutique hotel so you get what you pay for.

I'm warming to the design - especially with the way the signage wraps around the building. Be interesting to see how the black bricks work in an area that is predominantly red brick or stucco.

A quick spot of research brings up this. These are what the bricks will look like:

And some data for brick geeks: http://www.wienerberger.co.uk/servle...=wb_uk_home_en

fourbytwo · December 22nd, 2009, 09:40 PM

I like the idea of something other than red brick or terra cotta, and it's nice to see such a brick chosen - something with a bit of character. I also thought the brickwork for Bloc's Rhubarb development in Digbeth was very good.

super1duper · December 22nd, 2009, 12:18 AM

The architects office is 20 metres away at 3 Mary Street, B3 1UD.

The development site is former garage & petrol station

super1duper · December 22nd, 2009, 12:39 AM

I think it's a great shame that the architect doesn't draw inspiration for the window design/style from the great buildings close by in the jewellery quarter.

A few buildings within 20 metres of the development site....

The design does have nice bricks, but the building dominates the street scene (in an overbearing way) on that side of the road. If it needs 4 floors to be viable, it could have a basement as many of the rooms don't have windows.

I'm not satisfied with a bland boring depressing look just becase the bricks are nice (and they are).

Engels · December 22nd, 2009, 12:54 AM

Exactly what is needed here in terms of use/scale, a bit dull pending proper renders

Typhoon2000 · December 22nd, 2009, 03:35 AM

I love the Jewellery Quarter - shame it's close to some of the nastiest gangsta areas..

Still thios building looks good - not necessarily groundbreaking but tasteful. What is public transport like to this area?

Erebus555 · December 22nd, 2009, 04:18 AM

Midland Metro passes through the area - two stops. Jewellery Quarter train station too which is connected to Snow Hill. Numerous bus services running along Newhall Street and such. Oh, and there's always the canal which passes through the south of area.

i_like_concrete · December 22nd, 2009, 12:55 PM

I like the simple shapes and brickwork, I'd rather it be understated and simple than fussy and contrived like that hideous post modern thing opposite.

***woodhousen*** · December 23rd, 2009, 12:13 PM

i blame the railway arches

Spread · December 23rd, 2009, 12:59 PM

Given this is called Bloc I assume it is nothing to do with Blok Developments, even though it shared architects and colour palette with Rhubard?

fourbytwo · December 23rd, 2009, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spread

Given this is called Bloc I assume it is nothing to do with Blok Developments, even though it shared architects and colour palette with Rhubard?

I probably assumed wrongly that it was the same developer (Blok Properties), however I'm sure someone can advise.

Spread · December 23rd, 2009, 03:31 PM

It does seem odd that two such similar schemes have similar names, perhaps there is some connection, does anyone know who the applicant for this is?

Erebus555 · December 23rd, 2009, 06:04 PM

Well, the name of the applicant given is a Mr Robert Morgan, whom I can't find any affiliated propert companies for. Reading through the application, 'bloc' is the only name I can find for the developers.

I can't find a website for 'blok properties' either.

fourbytwo · December 23rd, 2009, 07:15 PM

Blok Properties are Piers Harding and Martin Saxon, with a registered address in Stratford upon Avon, also I believe a Liverpool address. I am trying to find out a phone number.

Erebus555 · August 18th, 2010, 07:37 PM

Update from Engels on the Jewellery Quarter thread, suggesting that this one is underway!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Engels

There were contractors on the site of the planned hotel at the corner of Caroline St and Northwood St this morning. I walk past this site every day and this is the first time i have seen any movement.

Bureau des etrangers · August 18th, 2010, 11:44 PM

Can this thread be moved.......

..........into the blandest building in Birmingham thread

Engels · August 19th, 2010, 01:22 AM

Just to clarify when i walked back past this, this evening there were signs that said these were demolition contractors

Engels · August 19th, 2010, 11:35 AM

Will be better than what is there now - due for the chop iminently

(ps will resize this later but can't from the iphone app) edit done

December 21st, 2009, 10:54 PM	#1
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December 21st, 2009, 11:55 PM	#2
jolon Sense Offender Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Birmingham/Sheffield Posts: 497 Likes (Received): 0	Looks slick! I assume natural light is an optional extra then! __________________ Another year, another 100 posts. I'm on a role.

December 22nd, 2009, 12:01 AM	#3
Erebus555 It's Sting. So What? Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 31,246 Likes (Received): 4	Well, it's a budget boutique hotel so you get what you pay for. I'm warming to the design - especially with the way the signage wraps around the building. Be interesting to see how the black bricks work in an area that is predominantly red brick or stucco. A quick spot of research brings up this. These are what the bricks will look like: And some data for brick geeks: http://www.wienerberger.co.uk/servle...=wb_uk_home_en __________________ The UK Housing Wiki - Attempting to document every tower block, council estate, private estate, housing association, tower block construction/ demolition method, tower block architect, tower block construction company... etc etc, in the UK. Everything to do with postwar residences! - Please join and help! EREBUS - OFFICIAL MOD CANDIDATE 2011 - BRITISH MODS FOR BRITISH PEOPLE!

December 22nd, 2009, 12:39 AM	#6
super1duper Michael Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham Posts: 144 Likes (Received): 4	I think it's a great shame that the architect doesn't draw inspiration for the window design/style from the great buildings close by in the jewellery quarter. A few buildings within 20 metres of the development site.... The design does have nice bricks, but the building dominates the street scene (in an overbearing way) on that side of the road. If it needs 4 floors to be viable, it could have a basement as many of the rooms don't have windows. I'm not satisfied with a bland boring depressing look just becase the bricks are nice (and they are). Last edited by super1duper; December 23rd, 2009 at 01:09 AM. Reason: add

December 22nd, 2009, 12:54 AM	#7
Engels Simples Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 4,095 Likes (Received): 7	Exactly what is needed here in terms of use/scale, a bit dull pending proper renders __________________ You were born poor, naked and helpless. Everything in your life was given to you, the food you ate, the clothes you wore, the shelter you received. Most importantly of all you received an education. You were given this because people loved you, because people you never knew worked to feed you and long before you were born people died to protect you and to give you the opportunities they never had. Life doesn't owe you anything! YOU owe life!

December 22nd, 2009, 09:40 PM	#4
fourbytwo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 171 Likes (Received): 0	I like the idea of something other than red brick or terra cotta, and it's nice to see such a brick chosen - something with a bit of character. I also thought the brickwork for Bloc's Rhubarb development in Digbeth was very good.

December 22nd, 2009, 12:18 AM	#5
super1duper Michael Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Birmingham Posts: 144 Likes (Received): 4	The architects office is 20 metres away at 3 Mary Street, B3 1UD. The development site is former garage & petrol station

December 22nd, 2009, 03:35 AM	#8
Typhoon2000 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Birmingham/Coventry Posts: 2,567 Likes (Received): 23	I love the Jewellery Quarter - shame it's close to some of the nastiest gangsta areas.. Still thios building looks good - not necessarily groundbreaking but tasteful. What is public transport like to this area? __________________ Call yourself an Architect?.. Listen, take my advice.. A building can ONLY come to life when there is life *around* it - not just in it.. think about it.... This is Birmingham... FORWARD!!!

December 22nd, 2009, 04:18 AM	#9
Erebus555 It's Sting. So What? Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 31,246 Likes (Received): 4	Midland Metro passes through the area - two stops. Jewellery Quarter train station too which is connected to Snow Hill. Numerous bus services running along Newhall Street and such. Oh, and there's always the canal which passes through the south of area. __________________ The UK Housing Wiki - Attempting to document every tower block, council estate, private estate, housing association, tower block construction/ demolition method, tower block architect, tower block construction company... etc etc, in the UK. Everything to do with postwar residences! - Please join and help! EREBUS - OFFICIAL MOD CANDIDATE 2011 - BRITISH MODS FOR BRITISH PEOPLE!

December 22nd, 2009, 12:55 PM	#10
i_like_concrete cockney sparrow Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London Posts: 3,359 Likes (Received): 58	I like the simple shapes and brickwork, I'd rather it be understated and simple than fussy and contrived like that hideous post modern thing opposite. __________________ Mother earth couldn't give a shit about your iphone or social networking strategy Flickr Pinterest

December 23rd, 2009, 12:13 PM	#11
*woodhousen* Moderator Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Leeds/Birmingham, UK Posts: 10,842 Likes (Received): 2	i blame the railway arches __________________ Simply BIRMINGHAM

December 23rd, 2009, 12:59 PM	#12
Spread Brummie & Proud Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 1,635 Likes (Received): 28	Given this is called Bloc I assume it is nothing to do with Blok Developments, even though it shared architects and colour palette with Rhubard?

December 23rd, 2009, 03:31 PM	#14
Spread Brummie & Proud Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Birmingham Posts: 1,635 Likes (Received): 28	It does seem odd that two such similar schemes have similar names, perhaps there is some connection, does anyone know who the applicant for this is?

December 23rd, 2009, 06:04 PM	#15
Erebus555 It's Sting. So What? Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 31,246 Likes (Received): 4	Well, the name of the applicant given is a Mr Robert Morgan, whom I can't find any affiliated propert companies for. Reading through the application, 'bloc' is the only name I can find for the developers. I can't find a website for 'blok properties' either. __________________ The UK Housing Wiki - Attempting to document every tower block, council estate, private estate, housing association, tower block construction/ demolition method, tower block architect, tower block construction company... etc etc, in the UK. Everything to do with postwar residences! - Please join and help! EREBUS - OFFICIAL MOD CANDIDATE 2011 - BRITISH MODS FOR BRITISH PEOPLE!

December 23rd, 2009, 07:15 PM	#16
fourbytwo Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Birmingham Posts: 171 Likes (Received): 0	Blok Properties are Piers Harding and Martin Saxon, with a registered address in Stratford upon Avon, also I believe a Liverpool address. I am trying to find out a phone number.

August 18th, 2010, 11:44 PM	#18
Bureau des etrangers Jersey's finest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Birmingham / St Helier Posts: 1,420 Likes (Received): 9	Can this thread be moved....... ..........into the blandest building in Birmingham thread __________________ "Where Birmingham leads, all England will follow" - Joseph Chamberlain

August 19th, 2010, 01:22 AM	#19
Engels Simples Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 4,095 Likes (Received): 7	Just to clarify when i walked back past this, this evening there were signs that said these were demolition contractors __________________ You were born poor, naked and helpless. Everything in your life was given to you, the food you ate, the clothes you wore, the shelter you received. Most importantly of all you received an education. You were given this because people loved you, because people you never knew worked to feed you and long before you were born people died to protect you and to give you the opportunities they never had. Life doesn't owe you anything! YOU owe life!

August 19th, 2010, 11:35 AM	#20
Engels Simples Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 4,095 Likes (Received): 7	Will be better than what is there now - due for the chop iminently (ps will resize this later but can't from the iphone app) edit done __________________ You were born poor, naked and helpless. Everything in your life was given to you, the food you ate, the clothes you wore, the shelter you received. Most importantly of all you received an education. You were given this because people loved you, because people you never knew worked to feed you and long before you were born people died to protect you and to give you the opportunities they never had. Life doesn't owe you anything! YOU owe life! Last edited by Engels; August 20th, 2010 at 01:06 AM.

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