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Old January 20th, 2010, 05:10 PM   #1
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[Zagreb] - Vizija razvoja i opća rasprava

U ovoj dretvi postajte svoje ideje i planove o razvoju grada Zagreba kao i članke koji se ticu te tematike

Za pocetak Zagreb kakvog bih ja zelio vidjeti 2050



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1.Demografija
2.Urbanizam
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Old January 20th, 2010, 05:15 PM   #2
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Demografija

Osnova buduceg razvoja grada mora biti veliki demografski skok. Grad Zagreb se prostire na iznimno velikoj povrsini te ima relativno malu gustocu naseljenosti

Visoka imigracija bi se ponajviše realizirala nažalost uvozom jeftine radne snage bez koje nije moguc veliki ekonomski razvoj ali i velikim djelom privlacenjem studenata i mladih znanstvenika u Zagrebacke fakultete i znanstveno tehnoloske parkove





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Old January 20th, 2010, 05:24 PM   #3
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Urbanizam



Ogledni modeli kako bi predgradja trebala izgledati(svako sa izlazom na autocestu i šinski JGP)









Zone visokogradnje



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Old January 20th, 2010, 05:37 PM   #4
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Promet

Plan razvoja JGP-a i cestovne mreze


ovdje ima puno mapa ali cu ih poslje malo postat
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Old January 20th, 2010, 05:47 PM   #5
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Zabonz odlična dretva; o ovome se stvarno može kvalitetno raspravljati!
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Old January 20th, 2010, 05:58 PM   #6
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Cestovna mreza

moze moze, samo dok ja postam sve svoje planove, napuniti ce se 5str, a nebi bilo lose ni sveznajucem gradonacelniku da je malo posjeti

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Old January 20th, 2010, 06:02 PM   #7
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svaka čast za dretvu, ja sam isto ovak neš već htio otvorit! imam puno ideja, bum se raspisao ovdje
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Old January 20th, 2010, 07:37 PM   #8
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wow super dretva! ...meni je isto Google Earth pun mojih planova .... malo sam lijen to postat .... ali vise manje mi svi isto mislimo o nekim stvarima
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Old January 20th, 2010, 08:00 PM   #9
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Jesi sam ovo crtao ili si posudio??
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/945/49137953hm8.jpg

Ako si crtao možeš skicirati zgradu opere i zgradu vlade,pa napraviti i projekciju savske obale.
Ja bih sam ali nisam baš previše vješt...
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Old January 21st, 2010, 12:37 AM   #10
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suppper dretva Zabonz, volim tvoje idea
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Old January 21st, 2010, 12:50 AM   #11
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Ali mislim Zagreb nece populicja ici preko 1.05 million,

Hrvatska bu imala oko 5.7 million u 2050, sad ima oko 4.55 million, tak da bi do 2050 imalo oko 5.7 million, Zagreb (metro area) bu imalo oko 1.5 million max, i Zagreb bu imal oko 1050 000. 4 mala grada u Zagreb metro area bu islo ovak:

Zagreb: 1 050 000
Velika Gorica: 104 000 (200 000)
Zapersic: 50 000 (100 000)
Samobor: 32 000 (80 000)
Dugo Selo: 25 000 (70 000)

total: 1 500 000

U 2100 to bu bilo ovak:

Hrvatska: 7 050 000

Zagreb: 1 250 000
Velika Gorica: 122 000 (220 000)
Zapersic: 80 000 (120 000)
Samobor: 50 000 (100 000)
Dugo Selo: 35 000 (80 000)

total: 1 770 000

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Hm ljudi moji, odakle vi izvlačite te brojke o populaciji... PA mi trenutno imamo negativan trend, ne znam na temelju čega predviđate 5.7 miljona u 2050... Možemo pucati na maks 5 milijona ako trend u idućih 5 godina okrenemo u pozitivu.
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Hm ljudi moji, odakle vi izvlačite te brojke o populaciji... PA mi trenutno imamo negativan trend, ne znam na temelju čega predviđate 5.7 miljona u 2050... Možemo pucati na maks 5 milijona ako trend u idućih 5 godina okrenemo u pozitivu.
ma ide na bolje, 4.55 million u hrvatska sad, do 2050, 5.7 million

Current Population: 4 550 000

Future Growth: 840 000

Immigration: 320 000

total: 5 710 000
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Stanovništvo se sigurno neće smanjivati, ako hrvati ne pokrenu rast stanovnika onda će to sigurno imigranti učiniti...
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ma ide na bolje, 4.55 million u hrvatska sad, do 2050, 5.7 million

Current Population: 4 550 000

Future Growth: 840 000

Immigration: 320 000

total: 5 710 000
Molim te, pa kakvi su ovo podatci? Ovaj rast od 840 000 bi značio da mi, krenuvši od ove godine, do 2050 prosječno moramo imati prirodni prirast od 21 000... Trenutno se godisnje rodi oko 44000 tisuće djece i sa tim imamo negativan prirodni prirast, ne znam sad točno, od 2-4 tisuce godisnje...

Znači mi bi u vrlo kratkom roku morali za trećinu povećati natalitet, što je nerealno i gotovo nemoguće... Nažalost.
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Molim te, pa kakvi su ovo podatci? Ovaj rast od 840 000 bi značio da mi, krenuvši od ove godine, do 2050 prosječno moramo imati prirodni prirast od 21 000... Trenutno se godisnje rodi oko 44000 tisuće djece i sa tim imamo negativan prirodni prirast, ne znam sad točno, od 2-4 tisuce godisnje...

Znači mi bi u vrlo kratkom roku morali za trećinu povećati natalitet, što je nerealno i gotovo nemoguće... Nažalost.
U 80' hrvatska je imala proridni prirast od 58000, i positivni natalitet je bio 18000, Hrvatska je isla od 4.61 na 4.785 million od 1971 Census do 1981 census. To nije bilo kak se veli child benefits i sve kaj sad ima, mislim da 21000 je jako moguce. I u zadnjih 3 godine hrvatska ima positivni natalitet

2001 Census Hrvatska je imala 4.4 million sad ima 4.55 million.

5.7 million je jako moguce i mislim da si prilicon pessimistic, zakaj,

Kak bu Dr Phlox rekal, Optimism, Optimism my Captain! (star trek enterprise, broken bow)
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Molim te, pa kakvi su ovo podatci? Ovaj rast od 840 000 bi značio da mi, krenuvši od ove godine, do 2050 prosječno moramo imati prirodni prirast od 21 000... Trenutno se godisnje rodi oko 44000 tisuće djece i sa tim imamo negativan prirodni prirast, ne znam sad točno, od 2-4 tisuce godisnje...

Znači mi bi u vrlo kratkom roku morali za trećinu povećati natalitet, što je nerealno i gotovo nemoguće... Nažalost.


dijasporu se mora reklamirat da se cim vise od njih/nas vrate. 380.000(novi) imigranti od 5.700.000 stanovnika je zbilja puno.
to je kljuc za savjesnu politiku.

meni je najludje da je centar zagreba i na neki nacin rub grada. sela ispod sljemena imaju velik potencijal za kvalitetnu izgradnju.
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WOW Super dretva.

Zabonz svaka cast na ideji. Samo naprijed!!!

Ovo je upravo ono sta nedostaje nasim gradovima (a i drzavi ) a to je plan razvoja.

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