Cities who has lost most in times?

[TVN]

With cities has lost most citizens and enployment through the years
up til now? And then; who has in the same time won most?

[Jennifat]

I'm sorry, could you please rephrase that? I'm having difficulty understanding your question due to the broken English.

[Infoman]

He's pretty much saying; which cities have gained the most jobs and people, and which have lost the most.

I know Raleigh, NC has gained quite a few of both jobs and people; while Detroit (Wayne County overall) has lost jobs (supposedly jobs in the automotive field are being created there again), and the population is decreasing rapidly. My city, Baltimore, has lost residents but the metro has grown and jobs have been created.

[Sarcasticity]

When I think declining cities, I think..... Detroit, Newark, St. Louis, to some extent Chicago?

[bayviews]

Originally Posted by Sarcasticity

When I think declining cities, I think..... Detroit, Newark, St. Louis, to some extent Chicago?

Pittsburgh & Buffalo have been the most persistant population losers.

Not only are both their central cities down to almost half their peak population. Both have declined down from their metropolitan area peak circa 1960.

St Louis, once ranked among the top five US cities, is probably the biggest loser in terms of city population & rank.

However it's bi-state metro has seen slow growth.

[Sarcasticity]

Originally Posted by bayviews

Pittsburgh & Buffalo have been the most persistant population losers.

Not only are both their central cities down to almost half their peak population. Both have declined down from their metropolitan area peak circa 1960.

St Louis, once ranked among the top five US cities, is probably the biggest loser in terms of city population & rank.

However it's bi-state metro has seen slow growth.

I was thinking of Buffalo as well. I was unsure of Pittsburgh, but the city seemed pretty stagnant to me. I was not only talking about population, but economic activity as well.

[hudkina]

Originally Posted by Sarcasticity

I was thinking of Buffalo as well. I was unsure of Pittsburgh, but the city seemed pretty stagnant to me. I was not only talking about population, but economic activity as well.

Pittsburgh has lost a greater share of its peak metropolitan population than any other major city, though Buffalo isn't far behind. People often lump Detroit in with Pittsburgh and Buffalo without realizing that the Detroit metro area peaked in the year 2000 and has only lost a relatively small percentage of its peak metropolitan population, due primarily to the recession of the last several years. Chances are fairly good that the Detroit metropolitan area will see an increase from its 2010 population by 2020, assuming the economy continues to grow over the next several years.

Pittsburgh CSA	1960 - 2,881,903
		2010 - 2,447,393
		-15.1%	-434,510

Buffalo	CSA	1970 - 1,430,877
		2010 - 1,215,826
		-15.0%	-215,051

Cleveland CSA	1970 - 3,098,513
		2010 - 2,881,937
		- 7.0%	-216,576

Detroit CSA	2000 - 5,357,538
		2010 - 5,218,852
		- 2.6%	-138,686

[hudkina]

Newark actually gained population in the last census.

[Seattlelife]

I think the city to gain the most in the last century or whatever is Los Angeles. Many other far Western cities are up there too due to relatively later settlements.

Seattle, SF, Portland, Denver etc

Also the advent of air conditioning and water works has allowed cities such as Phoenix, Las Vegas, Atlanta, Miami etc to thrive.

[WeimieLvr]

Originally Posted by Seattlelife

I think the city to gain the most in the last century or whatever is Los Angeles. Many other far Western cities are up there too due to relatively later settlements.

Seattle, SF, Portland, Denver etc

Also the advent of air conditioning and water works has allowed cities such as Phoenix, Las Vegas, Atlanta, Miami etc to thrive.

Atlanta thrived long before the advent of air conditioning...it doesn't have nearly the same kind of climate as the others you listed.

[hudkina]

Originally Posted by WeimieLvr

Atlanta thrived long before the advent of air conditioning...it doesn't have nearly the same kind of climate as the others you listed.

Modern A/C was invented in 1902 when Atlanta barely had over 90,000 people. Atlanta didn't become a truly major city until the post-war era, when A/C become more widely available in homes.

[bayviews]

Originally Posted by hudkina

Modern A/C was invented in 1902 when Atlanta barely had over 90,000 people. Atlanta didn't become a truly major city until the post-war era, when A/C become more widely available in homes.

Beginning in the 1950s in response to the Civil Rights movement, local political, business, & civic leaders were successful in branding Atlanta as "The City Too Too Busy to Hate.”

That paved the way for Atlanta to soar above, & become a model for other southern cities like Birmingham, Memphis, & New Orleans that were still dragging their feet when it came to inclusion, integration, & interacialism.

[kingchef]

in my view, i think chicago has seen some though times during the last several years; however, i believe that you will see the political connections kick in w/ the ties of the white house and emanuel. it has already begun in some areas, particularly the railroad systems, yards, and modals. when chicago began to lose real dollars to memphis in the intermodal and transporation sector, 18 years of infrastructure and approximately 4 billion dollars had been spent by 4 of the 6 national railroads. now canada is building a 600+million project from the ground up in memphis, and chicago did not realize all that was occurring in memphis. recently, obama was contacted for promised help for chicago to help build up its current intermodal systems in rails. chicago used to say that it threw out more scraps daily than memphis could transport in a week. that is no longer the case. atlanta is also finding itself lacking in the competitive market w/ memphis, in this area. now, memphis has taken a prominent position as the third largest inland port in america, and carries more tonnage than any port inland than any port in america. it is the busiest airport for freight delivery in the world. trucking through the interstate systems is rated in the number 2 position, which will change w/in the year 2013, as the new interstates are opened from mexico to canada (nafta). memphis will link all of the major transportation systems throughout the united states, in all directions. hopefully, the new northbridge proposal for another riverbridge over the MS will come to fruition this year. consequently, i believe chicago will be getting the big investments from washington, as promised by obama. he has promised about 450 million for the rails, and i can't remember the infrastructure promises on interstate projects, etc. i know memphis met w/ our mayor, but memphis didn't get those promises like billions for interestate work. i was told, however, that he had a great deal of interest in getting some of these big promises done in memphis, and getting them finished quickly. the city has about 710,000 in the city proper, and 1.4, depending on the minority outcome of the census, and the city is heavily democratic. tn is not, and he is despised in nashville, knoxville, chattanooga, and the hills of tn.

[Ichiban]

Originally Posted by Seattlelife

I think the city to gain the most in the last century or whatever is Los Angeles. Many other far Western cities are up there too due to relatively later settlements.

Seattle, SF, Portland, Denver etc

That is not true for San Francisco. The 2010 census revealed that SF is at an all time population high with 805,235 residents. After 1950 (775,357 people) the city dropped population until it finally rebounded in 2000 (776,733 people).

Although SF had phenomenal growth in the past decade it wasn't on a perpetual growth cycle for the entire 20th Century like Los Angeles was.

[bayviews]

St. Louis also deserves a top billing among the biggest US urban population losers. As the starting point for the Lewis & Clark expedition & a leading steamboat & railroad hub, it was the original “Gateway to the West” and hosted the 1904 World Fair a century later. While St. Louis remained a major brewing & light manufacturing hub, by then the city had lost its once leading economic & transportation roles to rising Chicago. The construction of the Gateway Arch in the early 1960s did little to arrest the city’s rapid downward spiral, & St. Louis made the headlines for a large housing project that was torn down.

St. Louis began making a comeback in the nineties, attracting new immigrants and building a light rail line across the Mississippi between the long ailing southern Illinois suburbs & the Lambert airport. However with TWA’s demise, air traffic declined. The saving grace of St. Louis is the city’s large, sturdy, durable, brick row house housing stock & the relative prosperity and stability of the large suburban fringe on the Missouri side of the river. Like many ailing rustbelt metros, St. Louis has pinned its future hopes for economic viability on education, universities, & healtcare etc.

[Ichiban]

That's an interesting post (though nearly impossible to read...capital letters and paragraphs dude).

I know Memphis Airport is the superhub for FedEx which is an amazing business success story. Is FedEx the main catalyst for the upgrades to the regional infrastructure?

[SydneyCity]

Well, the largest metro areas with population decreases from 2000 to 2010 have been:

1. Detroit, MI
2. Pittsburgh, PA
3. Cleveland, OH
4. New Orleans, LA
5. Buffalo, NY
6. Dayton, OH
7. Toledo, OH
8. Youngstown, OH
9. Flint, MI
10. Canton, OH
11. Charlestown, WV
12. Utica, NY
13. Huntington, WV
14. Erie, PA
15. Birmingham, NY
16. Barnstable Town, MA
17. Saginaw, MI
18. Parkersburg, WV
19. Albany, GA
20. Niles, MI

[Seattlelife]

Originally Posted by SydneyCity

Well, the largest metro areas with population decreases from 2000 to 2010 have been:

1. Detroit, MI
2. Pittsburgh, PA
3. Cleveland, OH
4. New Orleans, LA
5. Buffalo, NY
6. Dayton, OH
7. Toledo, OH
8. Youngstown, OH
9. Flint, MI
10. Canton, OH
11. Charlestown, WV
12. Utica, NY
13. Huntington, WV
14. Erie, PA
15. Birmingham, NY
16. Barnstable Town, MA
17. Saginaw, MI
18. Parkersburg, WV
19. Albany, GA
20. Niles, MI

Wow! 50% of the top ten are in Ohio! 70% in Ohio and Michigan. That's incredible to me. I mean, I know we are all aware of the rust belt struggles but this really puts it into focus...

Although I'm wondering what your source is?

[bayviews]

Originally Posted by Seattlelife

Wow! 50% of the top ten are in Ohio! 70% in Ohio and Michigan. That's incredible to me. I mean, I know we are all aware of the rust belt struggles but this really puts it into focus...

Don't forget West Virginia, the original source of the rustbelt.

Plus a generous representation from upstate NY & outstate PA.

[Ichiban]

I'm surprised by Detroit on that list. Although the city itself is a well documented disaster I was under the impression that the metro was expanding.