2013 Election. Preferred Prime Minister.

Milan Luka · January 31st, 2013, 04:52 AM

Not necessarily asking about your political preferences, more who you could actually stomach as tthe Prime Minister.

Fair to say both major parties have leaders that polarize the electorate. There are a huge number of diehard Labor voters who are opposed to Gillard, just as their are as many Liberal voters who cant stomach the thought of Abbott as PM.

If you are a Labor supporter are you happy to vote for them with Gillard in charge? Would you like to see a return of Rudd thinking he can pick up where he left off? Or do you see another viable alternative there?

The same goes for the Libs? Would you be comfortable with Abbott as Prime Minister or are you hoping for Turnbulls camp to stage a coup before the election? Or once again do you see a third Liberal MP who could credible run for office?

Myself I've got no idea who I would vote for and I expect to change my mind a million times over the next seven months. Being honest, I've voted Labour all but once since I could vote in my first election was back in 1991, Hawke, Keating, Beazley, Rudd have all gotten my support. Libs got my tick at the last election and that was a protest vote against the Labor leadership transition.

I dont consider myself a staunch Labour supporter anymore, if anything I see them as a party who've spent the last decade floundering from crisis to crisis with leaders who've struggled to keep order. While I have to admire Gillards staying power when she's been written off so many times I don't actually like her, dont trust her and want to see her ousted. Sounds petty I know but I'm just being honest. While I want to vote Labour I definately will not vote for them with her as leader.

As for the right I'm mixed in my views. I can see Abbott being an effective leader but it's obvious to me he would not be popular. Turnbull seems to have the charisma and I'ts no secret some in the party believe he's an attractive alternative. Also suggesting that with him at the helm he may sway a large chunk of disaffected Labor supporters.

What's your thoughts?

Milan Luka · January 31st, 2013, 05:10 AM

Ah sheesh, excuse the spelling in the pole. Pissweak excuse but I've been outside of Australia too long. Duh

LanceDriver · January 31st, 2013, 05:27 AM

If I bother to turn up I will be drawing and ticking a box and writing "none of these fuckers above". I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I help give any of them votes.

Lightness · January 31st, 2013, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by LanceDriver

If I bother to turn up I will be drawing and ticking a box and writing "none of these fuckers above". I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I help give any of them votes.

You sound like just another clueless Sex Party voter....

LanceDriver · January 31st, 2013, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Lightness

You sound like just another clueless Sex Party voter....

Actually, you just reminded me of them. Voted for them last time because I like sex, so I may as well again. Cheers for the tip!

Lightness · January 31st, 2013, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LanceDriver

Actually, you just reminded me of them. Voted for them last time because I like sex, so I may as well again. Cheers for the tip!

I'm a swing voter so I will consider the Sex Party.

Mornnb · January 31st, 2013, 05:40 AM

Liberal under Turnbull. But if the option is Abbott, I'd rather Labor under Gillard. Abbott is surely the worst PM candidate since John Howard. Get these conservatives out of the Liberal Party and return it to true Liberals like Fraser and Turnbull.

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Originally Posted by Lightness

You sound like just another clueless Sex Party voter....

Still a better option than Greens or Labor or Liberal under Abbott.

Samuel77 · January 31st, 2013, 05:44 AM

Labor under Gillard. I think we need to keep the rfeorms they are putting in place, NBN and CT, and Gonski but then after the reforms are here to stay, I am ok to hand it back to Libs to make sure we can pay for them. But I just wont vote Libs if Abbott is leader, as I dislike social conservatism and religious ideals.

OneirosNate · January 31st, 2013, 05:44 AM

Well, if I was voting in a presidential election this would be a pain. But really, I've got a choice between one Gary Gray (Beazley's successor) and Ind Carol Adams and some anonymous Lib.

I'm not going to vote for or against one of that mob simply because I have issues with the boss.

Samuel77 · January 31st, 2013, 05:45 AM

oh i didnt read it properly, I see Liberals under Turnbull is there - too late my vote is in.

mubd · March 22nd, 2013, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Samuel77

oh i didnt read it properly, I see Liberals under Turnbull is there - too late my vote is in.

Same here

OneirosNate · January 31st, 2013, 06:16 AM

Are the Libs seriously paying 1.28?? And the ALP outside of 4 to the dollar?

GaryinSydney · January 31st, 2013, 06:23 AM

I totally agree with Milan Luka's original post/points here.

I cannot bring myself to vote for either Gillard or Abbott and will definitely not be wasting my vote on the Greens again (as I did last time in the hope of gay marriage influence).

I'll probably vote Liberal however, as i'm sick of Labor's economic incompetence, waste and kowtowing to malign Union influences.

Burden · January 31st, 2013, 06:25 AM

I actually would prefer this guy, he has a "face" for being a prime minister.

Alphaville · January 31st, 2013, 06:32 AM

Yes, Turnbull is a bit of a DILF - but his biggest issue is that there is an increasing gap between his 'Wentworthian' politics and the Coalition itself, which is getting more comfortable with Tea Party style politics which wouldn't accommodate a moderate like Turnbull.

OneirosNate · January 31st, 2013, 06:33 AM

All the more reason to hope he takes the helm of the Libs, get someone to reverse that Tea Party course again...

Lightness · January 31st, 2013, 07:32 AM

The Help End Marijuana Prohibition (HEMP) Party, which is based out of Nimbin in northern NSW didn't contest the 2010 federal election since they didn't re-apply for party registration in time for it to be processed. I really hope they will lay off their own merchandise so that they can get the application in on time for this years election.

Derek40 · January 31st, 2013, 07:51 AM

Abbott is a good quality Tyke who will get the job done, and this is coming from a swinging voter.
Labor run a real risk of being routed here in the traditional heartlands of Newcastle and the Hunter.
Labor would be better off rebuilding with young guns of my vintage like Tony Burke.

LanceDriver · January 31st, 2013, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek40

Abbott is a good quality Tyke who will get the job done, and this is coming from a swinging voter.
Labor run a real risk of being routed here in the traditional heartlands of Newcastle and the Hunter.
Labor would be better off rebuilding with young guns of my vintage like Tony Burke.

You already know my position on "safe" seats and that the best thing that could happen to Newcastle would be for it to become marginal rather than blind guaranteed Labor. If Labor loses any of the heartland Newcastle seats they will do anything to get them back!

tuanhung · February 3rd, 2013, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek40

Abbott is a good quality Tyke who will get the job done, and this is coming from a swinging voter.
Labor run a real risk of being routed here in the traditional heartlands of Newcastle and the Hunter.
Labor would be better off rebuilding with young guns of my vintage like Tony Burke.

come back to me when he did anything under howard worth mentioning, dude was always in the media for the wrong reasons cause he never delivered

View Poll Results: Preferred PM
Labour under Gillard	42	29.17%
Labour under Rudd	21	14.58%
Labour under another minister	7	4.86%
Liberal under Abbott	18	12.50%
Liberal under Turnbull	41	28.47%
Liberal under another minister	2	1.39%
Im voting for a minor party	13	9.03%
Voters: 144. You may not vote on this poll

January 31st, 2013, 04:52 AM	#1
Milan Luka stupid sexy flanders Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Out in the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 2,715 Likes (Received): 70	2013 Election. Preferred Prime Minister. Not necessarily asking about your political preferences, more who you could actually stomach as tthe Prime Minister. Fair to say both major parties have leaders that polarize the electorate. There are a huge number of diehard Labor voters who are opposed to Gillard, just as their are as many Liberal voters who cant stomach the thought of Abbott as PM. If you are a Labor supporter are you happy to vote for them with Gillard in charge? Would you like to see a return of Rudd thinking he can pick up where he left off? Or do you see another viable alternative there? The same goes for the Libs? Would you be comfortable with Abbott as Prime Minister or are you hoping for Turnbulls camp to stage a coup before the election? Or once again do you see a third Liberal MP who could credible run for office? Myself I've got no idea who I would vote for and I expect to change my mind a million times over the next seven months. Being honest, I've voted Labour all but once since I could vote in my first election was back in 1991, Hawke, Keating, Beazley, Rudd have all gotten my support. Libs got my tick at the last election and that was a protest vote against the Labor leadership transition. I dont consider myself a staunch Labour supporter anymore, if anything I see them as a party who've spent the last decade floundering from crisis to crisis with leaders who've struggled to keep order. While I have to admire Gillards staying power when she's been written off so many times I don't actually like her, dont trust her and want to see her ousted. Sounds petty I know but I'm just being honest. While I want to vote Labour I definately will not vote for them with her as leader. As for the right I'm mixed in my views. I can see Abbott being an effective leader but it's obvious to me he would not be popular. Turnbull seems to have the charisma and I'ts no secret some in the party believe he's an attractive alternative. Also suggesting that with him at the helm he may sway a large chunk of disaffected Labor supporters. What's your thoughts? __________________ Post earthquake, our city rebuilds http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1397304 Last edited by Milan Luka; January 31st, 2013 at 05:09 AM.

January 31st, 2013, 05:10 AM	#2
Milan Luka stupid sexy flanders Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Out in the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 2,715 Likes (Received): 70	Ah sheesh, excuse the spelling in the pole. Pissweak excuse but I've been outside of Australia too long. Duh __________________ Post earthquake, our city rebuilds http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1397304

January 31st, 2013, 06:25 AM	#14
Burden What to do with my life.. Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,443	I actually would prefer this guy, he has a "face" for being a prime minister. __________________ Townsville is unlike any other city in Australia. No city of comparable size has quite the connection into the future prosperity of the Australian nation as does Townsville. Townsville's next phase of growth is likely to accrue the critical mass in population to transform from regional centre to a metropolitan centre. 'Bernard Salt' Australia's leading demographer Townsville is a picture of exactly the kind of diverse, dynamic regional economy that will power Australia's passage through the years ahead. Treasurer Wayne Swan

January 31st, 2013, 06:32 AM	#15
Alphaville Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sydney. Posts: 3,769 Likes (Received): 42	Yes, Turnbull is a bit of a DILF - but his biggest issue is that there is an increasing gap between his 'Wentworthian' politics and the Coalition itself, which is getting more comfortable with Tea Party style politics which wouldn't accommodate a moderate like Turnbull. __________________ i'll drop my gun, if you drop your pants.

January 31st, 2013, 05:27 AM	#3
LanceDriver 70's porn star Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 6,744	If I bother to turn up I will be drawing and ticking a box and writing "none of these fuckers above". I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I help give any of them votes.

January 31st, 2013, 05:44 AM	#8
Samuel77 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: omnipresent Posts: 1,320 Likes (Received): 182	Labor under Gillard. I think we need to keep the rfeorms they are putting in place, NBN and CT, and Gonski but then after the reforms are here to stay, I am ok to hand it back to Libs to make sure we can pay for them. But I just wont vote Libs if Abbott is leader, as I dislike social conservatism and religious ideals.

January 31st, 2013, 05:44 AM	#9
OneirosNate Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 536 Likes (Received): 45	Well, if I was voting in a presidential election this would be a pain. But really, I've got a choice between one Gary Gray (Beazley's successor) and Ind Carol Adams and some anonymous Lib. I'm not going to vote for or against one of that mob simply because I have issues with the boss.

January 31st, 2013, 05:45 AM	#10
Samuel77 Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: omnipresent Posts: 1,320 Likes (Received): 182	oh i didnt read it properly, I see Liberals under Turnbull is there - too late my vote is in.

January 31st, 2013, 06:16 AM	#12
OneirosNate Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 536 Likes (Received): 45	Are the Libs seriously paying 1.28?? And the ALP outside of 4 to the dollar?

January 31st, 2013, 06:23 AM	#13
GaryinSydney Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 969 Likes (Received): 46	I totally agree with Milan Luka's original post/points here. I cannot bring myself to vote for either Gillard or Abbott and will definitely not be wasting my vote on the Greens again (as I did last time in the hope of gay marriage influence). I'll probably vote Liberal however, as i'm sick of Labor's economic incompetence, waste and kowtowing to malign Union influences.

January 31st, 2013, 06:33 AM	#16
OneirosNate Registered User Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 536 Likes (Received): 45	All the more reason to hope he takes the helm of the Libs, get someone to reverse that Tea Party course again...

January 31st, 2013, 07:32 AM	#17
Lightness En travesti Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 505 Likes (Received): 38	The Help End Marijuana Prohibition (HEMP) Party, which is based out of Nimbin in northern NSW didn't contest the 2010 federal election since they didn't re-apply for party registration in time for it to be processed. I really hope they will lay off their own merchandise so that they can get the application in on time for this years election. __________________ "I drink to make other people interesting" George Jean Nathan

January 31st, 2013, 07:51 AM	#18
Derek40 Proud NSW Blue Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Maitland NSW Posts: 345 Likes (Received): 10	Abbott is a good quality Tyke who will get the job done, and this is coming from a swinging voter. Labor run a real risk of being routed here in the traditional heartlands of Newcastle and the Hunter. Labor would be better off rebuilding with young guns of my vintage like Tony Burke.

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