MISC | How many cities have you travelled "underground"?

[Küsel]

Just tell us, in which cities you travelled by underground metro (only underground, subways, not trams or suburban trains)?

For me would be:
- Berlin
- Barcelona
- Boston
- Hamburg
- Lisboa
- London
- Moscow
- München
- NYC
- Paris
- Roma
- Sao Paulo
- Stockholm

Outstanding: Barcelona (modern, clean, comfortable), London (dense network, good overview anyway), Moscow (dense, cheap and very fast), Sao Paulo (all the advantages of the above - unfortunalty only 3 lines til now... but they are building fast). Worst: Roma (dirty, old, dark, only a few lines and always full)

[Gareth]

Liverpool (it's a metro by definition as small as it is)
London (wonderful system)
Barcelona (remember being lost mostly)
Hong Kong (MTR is clean, frequent & efficient)

[CharlieP]

Originally Posted by Gareth

Liverpool (it's a metro by definition as small as it is)

Liverpool is not a metro by Kuesel's definition - "no trams or suburban trains"!

[gruber]

Milano
Roma
Marseille
Paris
Lyon
Barcelona
Madrid
Lisbon
London
Munchen
Frankfurth
Berlin
Hamburg
Amsterdam
Bruxelles
Prague
Athens
Istanbul
Hong Kong
Al Qaira
New York
LA
San Francisco
Sydney (commuter rail, but a eal subway in the city centre)

[Mojito]

Funny, when I looked at all the different metro threads, I considered opening such a topic like this a few minutes ago...

Well, in chronological order:

Amsterdam
Rotterdam
Paris (metro and RER)
Roma
Brussels (metro and pre-metro)
Prague
Barcelona (metro TMB and metro FGC)
Berlin (U-Bahn and S-Bahn)

Amsterdam is the city where I was born and where I lived the first 20 years of my life. It's metro system has got a small 3,5 km underground section with 5 stations. The dirty stations (full with litter and graffiti, and a popular shelter for junks), in which many concrete is used, will be refurbished in the next four years. And in 2011, a new 6 km underground section with 5 new stations will be opened.

Rotterdam is the other metro city in the Netherlands, and the first one (opened in 1968). The system has got more underground stations and longer tunnels. The stations there are much more clean and clear than in Amsterdam.

I travelled the Rome metro in 1993. Back then, it was not as dirty as I have seen on more recent pictures. I liked the accelerating and decelerating of the trains there.

The Paris metro is wonderful, I loved the density, the sounds, the station architecture, the smell of the stations and the sounds, and the fact that it operates two systems (steel wheels on steel tracks and rubber tyres) The only thing which irritated me was the short distance between stations. The RER is a modern network, but lacks the identity of the traditional metro. But I'm curious about the new line E stations, like Magenta.

Barcelona is indeed very modern, clean and comfortable.

And Berlin was also good. I liked it that it has got two systems with two different measures (Kleinprofil and Grossprofil). I loved the new H/HK trains and my favourite line was the U2. About the S-Bahn, although it is no official metro network, I loved it even more than the U-Bahn. The 1930's atmosphere on many stations is very special, and it is good that it is maintained, even after modernization. This atmosphere is very important for the identity of the system.

And the 481/482 trains are beautiful. The only thing in Berlin which irritated me were the scratched windows. It was the worst I've seen in Europe so far.

Brussels and Prague are also very modern systems. I like the design of the Brussels metro trains with their orange fronts, and the seats are very comfortable.

This summer I hope to explore the London Underground.

[kub86]

Ok, now that I rode metros the past few months, I can take part in this thread.

Seattle (people list this...the monorail or the bus tunnel?? I rode both).

San Francisco: Was actually my first real subway in August. Stations were outdated, cars were old but nice. Loved the sounds they made. Impressed with the 10car trains...definitely more of a commuter rail.

Lyon: I'm a daily lyon metro rider now. I can say that I prefer smaller, more frequent trains, than longer, less frequent ones (example, metro D has cute 2-car trains every 30-40seconds during rush hour). Stations are modern, trains are nice and clean. Love it! The older lines have cars with couch-like seats. Some stations have bakeries inside...mmm

Paris: The walkways were a maze, and I didn't like the paygates. Reminded me of jail or something. I like the sounds of the trains arriving/departing. System is impressive. Rode RER once. Couldn't believe a subway car could have 2 floors!

I'm looking forward to riding London's and Budapest's.

[Alargule]

Originally Posted by kub86

Rode RER once. Couldn't believe a subway car could have 2 floors!

That's because the RER is more of a suburban rail network than a genuine metro network...

But as I've come to understand, bi-level trains are quite an oddity in the States. Germany already had them in the 1930's...

[kub86]

Originally Posted by Alargule

That's because the RER is more of a suburban rail network than a genuine metro network...

But as I've come to understand, bi-level trains are quite an oddity in the States. Germany already had them in the 1930's...

But isn't RER exactly like San Francisco's? They go out in the suburbs above ground, but they're underground once they reach city proper?? And RER is way more extensive with lots of underground stations in Paris with different lines that reach different part of the city. People count SF as a metro, but I think it's a waaaay smaller version of RER. So if people were counting SF as metro, I thought I could count RER too.

[Falubaz]

Barcelona (i like it for the wide trains, the beautiful FGC lines, and always and fortunately airconditioned trains on all lines)

Paris (dense, but the one-way-tunels for the passanger are stupid, the M14 is ok. almost all stations have the same look, if u 've seen one of them u know all. it's unfortunately smelly)

Warszawa (only one line, but modern, fast ansd clean)

Berlin (old, and not so modern, as one could think about the german capital city metro)

Stuttgart (very good network, fast, clean, modern, the old good german Ordnung)

Hamburg (quite nice system, even if a bit strange, metro in the city centre above ground but s-bahn underground)

Muenchen (one of the best i rode on, very good service, fantastic new stations, fast and clean)

Milano (as all 'metropolitane' in Italy - dirty, narrow and dark. but i like it as well. and it is still growing, the metro in Milano)

Roma (that's a pity, there are anly 2 lines in such a big and wonderful city. metro always full, other characteristics as in Milano)

Budapest (the coolest is the first continental metro in the europe - line 1 (yellow), now restored , just beautiful. other not so modern, but fast.)

Praha (good 3-shape-lines-system, but little old. the new stations are quite good)

Wien (excellent system, but the stations are in the same type. trains are wonderful, they seem to be a kind of a dragon, when approaching the station, the lights in the dark tunnel seem eyes of the dragon. i like wien-U-Bahn very much.)

[Falubaz]

Originally Posted by Falubaz

Barcelona
Paris
Warszawa
Berlin
Stuttgart
Hamburg
Muenchen
Milano
Roma
Budapest
Praha
Wien

since that time:
LONDON (july 2005)
HELSINKI (august 2006)

[baqthier]

Kuala Lumpur
Singapore
London

[SpastiK]

I would like to know the list of Bitxofo and J.Serradell, I think that are impresive!


This is my short list:

-Madrid (of course )
-Valencia (Spain)
-Paris
-London
-Prague
-Wien
-Moscow
-Saint Petesburg
-Tokyo
-Yokohama

[Bitxofo]

Originally Posted by SpastiK

I would like to know the list of Bitxofo and J.Serradell, I think that are impresive!


This is my short list:

-Madrid (of course )
-Valencia (Spain)
-Paris
-London
-Prague
-Wien
-Moscow
-Saint Petesburg
-Tokyo
-Yokohama

Jordi Serradell = 49 metro systems!!
Bitxofo = 44 metro systems, they will be 54 at the end of this year!


@SpastiK:
Don't you know Barcelona metro??
You are more than invited!!
Salu2

[Joshapd]

not so much:
Amsterdam
Cologne
Lille

[TRZ]

Pretty small list compared to others.

London Underground
Stockholm Tunnelbahn
Tokyo Metro/Toei Subway (most of the lines run through sevice on commuter railways with the same train)
Yokohama Subway/Minatomirai Line (the latter is very short but has through service with a Tokyo commuter railway)
Kyoto Subway
Toronto Transit Commission
Montreal Metro

EDIT: I forgot Copenhagen

[onetwothree]

Not much, but anyway.

Copenhagen Metro, (duh) very cool and modern. Opened in 2002.
Stockholm, very architectural.
London, simply amazing. Old, dense. And a huge system overall.
Paris, don't remember how it was really.

[JARdan]

Toronto.

[Küsel]

So Tokyo and Yokahama have different metro systems? Impressive!

I forgot Athens... but I only use one line.

[TRZ]

Originally Posted by Kuesel

So Tokyo and Yokahama have different metro systems? Impressive!

Yeah, Yokohama's is pretty small by comparison though. They have "3 lines" but operate as a single line with continuous service by one train. They are opening a new line soon that is a separate system rather than an extension, although they are planning another extension as well (but that's just planning). The Minatomirai line is a subway but an entity of its own, it just happens to be located in central Yokohama.

Keep in mind though, Yokohama is Japan's second largest city (it is not Osaka), so it should have its own subway system.

Given the population, Toronto offers better subway service than Yokohama, but there are so many commuter services going through Yokohama it doesn't matter much.

[nikko]

Sydney
Melbourne

haven't been out of Aus, but when I do. I'll definately have to ride the NYC subway. And do a bit of exploring