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Old July 31st, 2005, 03:32 AM   #1
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Those so-called "ugly" "old" buildings of New York City

We always hear it, no matter what we are talking about, in comparison with many other "new" or ("modern") cities , a "fault" is brought up about New York City.
Some say they just don't like Art-Deco, as if Art Deco was the only thing around before there was post modernism. Some argue that More glass makes the buildings beautiful. They say they don't like boxes, as if everything built before 1990 was a box.
In all cases it comes down to just one arguement those few skeptics love to ignite. The fact that New York City is covered from Harlem to the Bowery in Old, Ugly, Decapitated in some cases, but always old and ugly, buildings.
So this thread is dedicated to them. The ones who just cringe at the site of those old ugly buildings.
For the rest of us though, i guess its not a matter of taste so much as it is a matter of CLASS. No they aren't shooting off some hillside to make them look larger than they actually are. . No they arent covered from base to roof in glass. No they don't have flashing Neon Lights but they are BEAUTIFUL . They are still beating with life after all these years and no matter how many new glassy rockets go up elsewhere, theyll never have this :

The Old , Ugly buildings of New York City

20 Exchange Place










The Lincoln Building










The Chanin Building









295 Madison Avenue





Ritz Tower







The Paramount









Metropolitan Life











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Old July 31st, 2005, 03:48 AM   #2
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People have called these gorgeous classics ugly? Right... I suppose they're just angry that their city will never get to have buildings like these.
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Old July 31st, 2005, 03:52 AM   #3
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The daily News Building



Ny Life Insurance





Fuller Building





The Helmsley Building









Bankers Trust






90 West Street







63 Wall




Bush Tower







American Standard







120 Wall Street







The Sherry Netherland










The Mcgraw Hill Building






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Old July 31st, 2005, 04:12 AM   #4
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Old and Ugly?
The person who says that must really be jealous, Islander is right. These are just classics and are a proof of a skyline's history. That's what separates NYC and Chicago from Shanghai, Dubai and LA, what makes them better.
BTW, I took a pic of the 20 Exchange Place (almost the same at almost the same place), but I didn't even know its name, with all the downtown towers, it's kinda hard to find any particular one
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Old July 31st, 2005, 04:12 AM   #5
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The New Yorker Hotel








Standard Oil Building





Irving Trust ( The bank of New York)







Park Row







Barclay Vessy





The Downtown Athletic Club





The Equitable Building









Trinity and US realty







San Remo









U.S. Courthouse



Woolworth Building










The Municiple Building





15 Broad



The Crown





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Old July 31st, 2005, 04:26 AM   #6
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70 Pine Street ( American International)







30 Rockefeller Plaza







Alwyn Court







Nelson Tower





General Electric Building ( 570 Lex)





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The Waldorf Astoria








The Vanderbuilt





The Empire State Building









500 5th avenue





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Old July 31st, 2005, 04:43 AM   #7
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The University Club



Beekman Tower





The Carlyle



The Flatiron





Gilsey House





Decker Building



One 5th Avenue





40 Wall Street









The Essex House Hotel & The Hampshire House Hotel








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you've got to be from another planet or something to hate these buildings!!!
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Old July 31st, 2005, 04:59 AM   #9
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Liberty Tower





Williamsburg Savings Bank



Chelsea Hotel




Goelet Building



Tudor City





NY Yacht Club





The Plaza Hotel








Lord And Taylor





Hotel Pierre





El Dorado





The Ansonia







Delmonico's





Riverside Church





The Beresford







Ritz- Carlton



The Chrysler Building







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Old July 31st, 2005, 05:07 AM   #10
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http://members.aol.com/smurphy109/sm.htm

http://www.thecityreview.com

http://www.wirednewyork.com

http://www.greatgridlock.net/NYC/nyc.html

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/index.html
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Old July 31st, 2005, 05:35 AM   #11
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now this is my kinda thread.. great post nygirl

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Old July 31st, 2005, 09:15 AM   #12
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This thread is sick!



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Old July 31st, 2005, 09:19 AM   #13
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The buildings are all priceless treasures that no other city on Earth, aside from Chicago, can come remotely close to approximating.

I love the way these old buildings are mixed in with the newer stuff. It gives the city such a rich architectural tapestry. And its not as if NYC lacks for modern and futuristic buildings. Look at all the beautiful new glass towers that have been built in recent years and are still under construction.

In city vs. city threads, we always hear from supporters of other cities that skyscrapers and architecture don't matter, that they don't make a city. They may not "make" a city, but they make New York's cityscape very special and virtually unique in all the world. Those who trvialize it are just jealous of the fact that their cities can build all they want, but they can never have what NYC has.
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Old July 31st, 2005, 10:04 AM   #14
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that's what i love about NYC, the old art deco buildings.
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Old July 31st, 2005, 12:08 PM   #15
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Sadly, they don't build them like they use to. I wish they would. I really miss our city of dreaming spires.
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Old July 31st, 2005, 01:07 PM   #16
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Quote:
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that's what i love about NYC, the old art deco buildings.
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Old July 31st, 2005, 01:13 PM   #17
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Old and Ugly?
The person who says that must really be jealous, Islander is right. These are just classics and are a proof of a skyline's history. That's what separates NYC and Chicago from Shanghai, Dubai and LA, what makes them better.
BTW, I took a pic of the 20 Exchange Place (almost the same at almost the same place), but I didn't even know its name, with all the downtown towers, it's kinda hard to find any particular one

My sentiments exactly. Honestly could'nt agree more with you. NYC can always raise a glassy 500 meter building... 400 meter building... 300 meter building.. and speckle the streets with dozens of new modern highrises.. theres plenty of room and time for all that.
All those new modern cities though, theyll never be able to acquire one of these. I wanted to post this in the main city skyline or the Skyscraper forums, just to stick it to em, but i spent too much time doing this thread to let a flame war start so i figured you guys would appreciate this alot more.

We should get the guys over at the chicago forum to check this out so maybe someone can do a dedication thread to the "old" "ugly" buildings of Chicago. I would love to see that.
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Old July 31st, 2005, 02:31 PM   #18
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Really good thread, i love that buildings!
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Old July 31st, 2005, 09:50 PM   #19
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Eventually we'll look back on this as the Golden Age of Skyscrapers. Once the International Style came into vogue, the beauty of spires was replaced by the machinery of commerce. Yet humans have this innate love for tapers, setbacks, orrnamentation, and proportion. Something happened to civilization after World War II, and we collectively decided cheap and plain was better than these magnificent buildings.
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Flatiron Building was the first the skyscraper of the city and it is prettier than other new built skyscraper from the financial district!
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