The Museums of Chicago and NYC

dancethingy · September 25th, 2005, 10:13 PM

Hello everyone. I don't come here much because i stay mostly in the Chicago and Philippine forums, but a recent debate had forced me to defend Chicago musuems' superiority over that of NYC museums. Now i may be biased with my statement, but I am sure that many would at least agree that The Art Insitute of Chicago holds greater prestige over that of all NYC art museums.

Please, share your sentiments.

DonQui · September 25th, 2005, 10:28 PM

Than the Met? Than the MoMa? You have got to be kidding.

Than the Neue Gallery for German Art? Than the Guggenheim? Than the Museum of Natural History?

goonsta · September 25th, 2005, 10:43 PM

Yeah, you're on your own with this one this time man.

UrbanSophist · September 26th, 2005, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dancethingy

Hello everyone. I don't come here much because i stay mostly in the Chicago and Philippine forums, but a recent debate had forced me to defend Chicago musuems' superiority over that of NYC museums. Now i may be biased with my statement, but I am sure that many would at least agree that The Art Insitute of Chicago holds greater prestige over that of all NYC art museums.

Please, share your sentiments.

lol. When it comes to french impressionism, yes, the AIoC (pronounced "ayok"

) is superior to the NY mesuems. And when you say "prestige" you're implying how the world views it, and I would say that the AIoC is actually underrated, while most of the world considers New York one of the three museum capitals of the world.

Btw, are you just talking art museums?

DonQui · September 26th, 2005, 05:04 AM

IMO there are five museum capitals in the world:

London
New York
Paris
Rome
Madrid

Close runners up are
Chicago
Berlin
Florence

great prairie · September 26th, 2005, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonQui

IMO there are five museum capitals in the world:

London
New York
Paris
Rome
Madrid

Close runners up are
Chicago
Berlin
Florence

I think Washington D.C should be on that list

DonQui · September 26th, 2005, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by great prairie

I think Washington D.C should be on that list

Good point.

My global top 10 would be

1. London
1. Paris
3. Rome
4. New York
5. Madrid
6. Chicago
7. Florence
8. DC
9. Berlin
10.

UrbanSophist · September 27th, 2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DonQui

Good point.

My global top 10 would be

1. London
1. Paris
3. Rome
4. New York
5. Madrid
6. Chicago
7. Florence
8. DC
9. Berlin
10.

Hmm... that's a little western-centric, ain't it?

There's some great museums in Shanghai. I'm sure Tokyo and Hong Kong both have great museums. What about the middle east and northern africa? Oh... all that stuff is in London and Berlin...

Evangelion · September 26th, 2005, 05:22 AM

noway! the art institute is great but....... come on!

dancethingy · September 26th, 2005, 06:11 AM

Well any musuem actually.

Many Chicago musuems are very underrated, in fact all of Chicago is underrated. You can probably say that MoMa is more focused on modernism, but that is the only thing it can boast itself of. In terms of Impressionism and Old American works, the Institute blows any NYC art museum of the water. You can't put your two cents in until you've seen it. Our collection of world renowned art works also is something to boast about.

I have to add that the institute collection is not the only to be touted. Its the exhibitions that make a musuem even greater. This summer we have Toulouse Lautrec. Little do any of you know the you're beloved NYT has been printing articles envious of our museum. They feature reviews of everything going on in the Institute.

With addition of Renzo Piano's 500 million dollar wing for modern art, we can then effectively challenge MoMa.

UrbanSophist · September 26th, 2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dancethingy

Well any musuem actually.

Many Chicago musuems are very underrated, in fact all of Chicago is underrated. You can probably say that MoMa is more focused on modernism, but that is the only thing it can boast itself of. In terms of Impressionism and Old American works, the Institute blows any NYC art museum of the water. You can't put your two cents in until you've seen it. Our collection of world renowned art works also is something to boast about.

I have to add that the institute collection is not the only to be touted. Its the exhibitions that make a musuem even greater. This summer we have Toulouse Lautrec. Little do any of you know the you're beloved NYT has been printing articles envious of our museum. They feature reviews of everything going on in the Institute.

With addition of Renzo Piano's 500 million dollar wing for modern art, we can then effectively challenge MoMa.

Hmm. Cool!

I do definitely think that Chicago's museum buildings are some of the best around.

The Urban Politician · September 27th, 2005, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dancethingy

Well any musuem actually.

Many Chicago musuems are very underrated, in fact all of Chicago is underrated. You can probably say that MoMa is more focused on modernism, but that is the only thing it can boast itself of. In terms of Impressionism and Old American works, the Institute blows any NYC art museum of the water. You can't put your two cents in until you've seen it. Our collection of world renowned art works also is something to boast about.

I have to add that the institute collection is not the only to be touted. Its the exhibitions that make a musuem even greater. This summer we have Toulouse Lautrec. Little do any of you know the you're beloved NYT has been printing articles envious of our museum. They feature reviews of everything going on in the Institute.

With addition of Renzo Piano's 500 million dollar wing for modern art, we can then effectively challenge MoMa.

^Good points, and I agree we can emphasize challenge. I don't think Chicago's museums are superior, though.

I'm not a museum expert, but I definitely found the Field Museum much more impressive than NY's Museum of Natural History

UrbanSophist · September 28th, 2005, 03:52 PM

Chicago's got some nice ones.

spyguy · September 26th, 2005, 06:14 AM

Depends on what museum I guess. Art museums I'd tend to go with NYC, but Chicago is severely underated. I remembering reading an article about the expansion. They said that Chicago was always a big part of modern art, and that this would be a sort of coming out party to show that the Art Institute + MCA are influential (but not so much as NYC/London/Paris, but near it).

***i_am_hydrogen*** · September 26th, 2005, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dancethingy

Now i may be biased with my statement, but I am sure that many would at least agree that The Art Insitute of Chicago holds greater prestige over that of all NYC art museums.

The Art Institute is definitely one of the most prestigious art museums in the world. But I don't think that it's more prestigious than ALL NYC art museums. Where the Art Institute excels in particular is with respect to French Impressionism. No other art museum in the world, except for La Musee d'Orsay in Paris, has a better collection of French Impressionism. I've seen so many great exhibits there: Monet, Manet, Toulouse-Lautrec, Gauguin, Van Gogh, Seurat, and Magritte, not all of whom are impressionists, of course.

NovaWolverine · September 26th, 2005, 08:53 AM

I don't it's in the top 5 in the US, but not in the world, there are some amazing places in the world that have a lot older and more historic and significant art.

A42251 · September 26th, 2005, 10:24 PM

The Museum of Science and Industry has no comparable counterpart in NYC

UrbanSophist · September 26th, 2005, 11:02 PM

But hey, lets face it... even if Chicago had the best of the best, people would still presume NYC was a better museum city.

The Urban Politician · September 27th, 2005, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by UrbanSophist

But hey, lets face it... even if Chicago had the best of the best, people would still presume NYC was a better museum city.

^That's like the statement of the century

tuckerman · September 26th, 2005, 11:15 PM

In addition to the Met and Moma, NYC has an awesome collection - the Frick, the Guggenheim, Whitney, Brooklyn,erman, and many others. So for art, I'd say it clearly excels and is in a camp with Paris and London. But with other museums, Chicago is really on a fast track -Field, Science and Industry, Shedd, etc. In that realm Chicago competes favorably with the Smithsonian and probably topples NYC.

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dancethingy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 741 Likes (Received): 0	The Museums of Chicago and NYC Hello everyone. I don't come here much because i stay mostly in the Chicago and Philippine forums, but a recent debate had forced me to defend Chicago musuems' superiority over that of NYC museums. Now i may be biased with my statement, but I am sure that many would at least agree that The Art Insitute of Chicago holds greater prestige over that of all NYC art museums. Please, share your sentiments.

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spyguy Expert Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 6,945 Likes (Received): 18	Depends on what museum I guess. Art museums I'd tend to go with NYC, but Chicago is severely underated. I remembering reading an article about the expansion. They said that Chicago was always a big part of modern art, and that this would be a sort of coming out party to show that the Art Institute + MCA are influential (but not so much as NYC/London/Paris, but near it). Last edited by spyguy999; September 26th, 2005 at 06:21 AM.

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DonQui BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Free City-State of New York Posts: 6,204 Likes (Received): 0	Than the Met? Than the MoMa? You have got to be kidding. Than the Neue Gallery for German Art? Than the Guggenheim? Than the Museum of Natural History?

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DonQui BANNED Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Free City-State of New York Posts: 6,204 Likes (Received): 0	IMO there are five museum capitals in the world: London New York Paris Rome Madrid Close runners up are Chicago Berlin Florence

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Evangelion BANNED Join Date: May 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 573 Likes (Received): 0	noway! the art institute is great but....... come on!

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dancethingy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 741 Likes (Received): 0	Well any musuem actually. Many Chicago musuems are very underrated, in fact all of Chicago is underrated. You can probably say that MoMa is more focused on modernism, but that is the only thing it can boast itself of. In terms of Impressionism and Old American works, the Institute blows any NYC art museum of the water. You can't put your two cents in until you've seen it. Our collection of world renowned art works also is something to boast about. I have to add that the institute collection is not the only to be touted. Its the exhibitions that make a musuem even greater. This summer we have Toulouse Lautrec. Little do any of you know the you're beloved NYT has been printing articles envious of our museum. They feature reviews of everything going on in the Institute. With addition of Renzo Piano's 500 million dollar wing for modern art, we can then effectively challenge MoMa.

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UrbanSophist Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aberdeen, UK Posts: 2,858 Likes (Received): 0	Chicago's got some nice ones.

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NovaWolverine Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 2,604 Likes (Received): 1	I don't it's in the top 5 in the US, but not in the world, there are some amazing places in the world that have a lot older and more historic and significant art.

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A42251 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 441 Likes (Received): 0	The Museum of Science and Industry has no comparable counterpart in NYC

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UrbanSophist Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aberdeen, UK Posts: 2,858 Likes (Received): 0	But hey, lets face it... even if Chicago had the best of the best, people would still presume NYC was a better museum city.

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tuckerman Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 118 Likes (Received): 0	In addition to the Met and Moma, NYC has an awesome collection - the Frick, the Guggenheim, Whitney, Brooklyn,erman, and many others. So for art, I'd say it clearly excels and is in a camp with Paris and London. But with other museums, Chicago is really on a fast track -Field, Science and Industry, Shedd, etc. In that realm Chicago competes favorably with the Smithsonian and probably topples NYC.