Must-visit places in Vietnam

akitoto · June 25th, 2006, 06:05 PM

Hi,

I intend to travel to Vietnam to understand her architecture. What are the must-see architecture-worthy places in Vietnam?

Pho-sure · June 26th, 2006, 01:03 AM

North:
Hanoi - Temple of Literature, One-pillar Pagoda, various temples etc
Ninh Binh and Bac Ninh - temples and pagodas
Yen Tu mountain - various temple complexes

Central:
Hue - Thien Mu pagoda, Royal Citadel, Mausoleums

South:
No comment

Sat_Cong · June 26th, 2006, 06:18 PM

in addition from Pho-Sure places....

North - HCM death body, HCM sh.t house...
South - "Cuchi" tunnel....

vkameleon · June 26th, 2006, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sat_Cong

in addition from Pho-Sure places....

North - HCM death body, HCM sh.t house...
South - "Cuchi" tunnel....

Stop ruinning the thread. I'm so fed up with these ultra VNCH supporters

sqd · June 27th, 2006, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wantuhoa

Stop ruinning the thread. I'm so fed up with these ultra VNCH supporters

The anti-communist are losers. It's understandable about their pathetic behaviors of constantly taking cheapshots here and there.

Sat_Cong · June 26th, 2006, 10:14 PM

Wow....scary...don't get me wrong but those are the places that some of the tours offer in the package....What's wrong with going to see his death body? or the hole in the ground where we used to fight against our enemy. I thought we are proud of those places...I have been to those places and I just want to pass on to other to check out...what's wrong with that? I guess I don't have any permission to talk about my uncle since I am not his "chau ngoan" then....sorry...man, it's so hard to please everybody in here.

vkameleon · June 26th, 2006, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sat_Cong

Wow....scary...don't get me wrong but those are the places that some of the tours offer in the package....What's wrong with going to see his death body? I thought we are proud of those places...I have been to those places and I just want to pass on to other to check out...what's wrong with that? I guess I don't have any permission to talk about my uncle since I am not his "chau ngoan" then....sorry

I do not appreciate the tone that you implied in these posts. Seriously you're already mature, maybe you should act more like it. I'm fed up with the facts that every threads in this forum is turned a political debate. I'm SO fed up with Vietnamese Overseas who do nothing but bashing Vietnam, posting pictures that try to "reveal the truth" of Vietnam ends up propagating more lies. There are differences between having constructive criticism and bashing something nonsensely. It's funny that ONLY in this forum, you see people degrading and ridiculing their own countr. They should at least do it approriately under a debate thread instead of dragging it to almost every thread.

Sat_Cong · June 27th, 2006, 12:22 AM

First of all, I don't think I need your damn permission to say anything in here...regarding my tone of my implied I careless if you appreciate it or not...it's a freedom of speech forum so suck it up if you don't like my post. Did i call your name out when I post these stuff? Did I say somewhere in here that if you don't like my posts..ignore me? I don't put a nife on your neck to tell you to read my post right? so don't sit there and try to lecture me....If I hurt your feeling...go tell someone who cares

vkameleon · June 27th, 2006, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sat_Cong

First of all, I don't think I need your damn permission to say anything in here...regarding my tone of my implied I careless if you appreciate it or not...it's a freedom of speech forum so suck it up if you don't like my post. Did i call your name out when I post these stuff? Did I say somewhere in here that if you don't like my posts..ignore me? I don't put a nife on your neck to tell you to read my post right? so don't sit there and try to lecture me....If I hurt your feeling...go tell someone who cares

Yea, you practiced your freedom of speech by alluding to "HCM sh.it house" when answering to a person who sincerely asked Vietnamese members in here to give tips and advices where he/she should explore in Vietnam. It's not about lecturing, it's about common sense and a little bit of courtesy... just a little bit

coolink · June 27th, 2006, 12:49 AM

Oh canada
our home and native land....true patriot love
in our thy son command.......

en francais:
tron nei soix, ne tu ne po pe ....il xe po pe la qoi

Sat_Cong · June 27th, 2006, 01:43 AM

How could I say it's a manson when it's in fact a shit house? and I can't say his lifeful body either...cuz he's dead....that's common sense right there for you...my dear teacher!

Saigoneseguy · June 27th, 2006, 04:33 AM

This is not only a construction forum, it serves also as a small "Embassy" of our country. Other ppl looks into this forum and get to know not only buildings here and there but also to understand Vietnamese culture and lifestyle. Others might not even care bout buildings. Many has came and quoted: "Oh, i didn't know there is a Vietnam forum here! Let's take a look and see what they're talking about" Needless to say we're painfully in need of moderation, toleration and self-control from our fellow members.

@Sat_Cong: What do you think you could do for our homeland's image by presenting HCM's shit house and his dead body (not at the same place) as a must-see destination??

Shame on you!

You and other overseas "democracy activist" are actually drawing back the democracy process in Vietnam, do you know that? Vietnamese inside the country look into you and your rubbish as non-stop basher then turn their back to everything named "democracy", do you know that?

Next time give yourself a thought before doing anything like this. Better be the last time before someone report it to the mods.

@bang: I need translation.

Sat_Cong · June 27th, 2006, 05:15 AM

Saigon_Monsooner---I thought those are our historical landmarks?!?!?!....I don't know about you guys, but I am myself proud of them.....maybe you want to teach me how to say it right niext time huh.....See..I thought about telling him/her the reality of our country like: beware of your wallet, don't trust all the sweet talk of the bauties, practice safe sex..bring the condoms, make sure things you buy are real, or don't give money to the baggers cuz they can jump you by a group...if you want to give make sure others don't see, if you ride bikes watch for "yellow ants" and "green monkeys", make sure you bargain to 1/3 of the "telling the truth price"...etc...but I thought these things may offended someone or doesn't look good for our country, so I told him/her to see places of our great uncle...and you still don't like it...what the hell should I do?....get a permission of what to say before I post....damn...it's hard to please everybody.

Saigoneseguy · June 27th, 2006, 05:25 AM

And i think you misunderstood Freedom of Speech too. First, it wasn't made to promote any misconduct. Like any freedom in this world, there are always conditions along. A dictator cannot have freedom of politics coz he could harm many ppl with that freedom. It applies consistenly when it is appropriate and necessary to achieve its goal.

And when you said "so suck it up if you don't like my post" and tell him not to 'lecturing' you, you are blatantly violating wantuhoa's freedom of speech.

Sat_Cong · June 27th, 2006, 05:07 PM

Monsooner - Go back and read from the begining, pal....did he/she violate my freedom of speech first or I did? I didn't jump in and started to tell other what to do, did I? I don't recall steping on anyone's tail. You can talk all you want, but don't direct me..by doing that, you just violated my right...you can only direct me if I commit a crime which I don't think so... now, by calling a restroom/toilet a shit house is not a crime; calling a lifeless body a death body...that's not a crime either.....and by the way, why bother talking to losers?

vkameleon · June 27th, 2006, 05:28 PM

Nobody tell you to shut up or to get out of the forums. However, we do expect a bit of respect and courtesy. This thread is not by anyway meant to be a political debate, yet you still bring it over. Again, all we want is just to respect and have a bit of courtesy. It's not hard if you want create a political debate in this forum instead of sabotaging this thread started by a non-Vietnamese who wants to explore Vietnam.

Đâu có đòi hỏi bao nhiêu đâu? Chỉ cần không chửi thề trong cái thread mà người nước ngoài muốn tìm hiểu về đất nước Việt Nam. Tự do ngôn luận cũng có nơi có chỗ chứ chẳng lẽ anh muốn tuỳ úy chửi thề ở cái diễn đàn này??

Baria · June 27th, 2006, 11:08 PM

Monsooner, SQD and Wantuhua, I do share your view. Thanks for saying it.

coolink · June 27th, 2006, 11:45 PM

sat cong i share your view
u're number one man

noi ve cong san 1 loi cung la thua ....va van loi cung chua du
so cong san people are number one too
everybody's number 1

i'm number 1+++

Pho-sure · June 28th, 2006, 12:21 AM

Enough with the rubbish. Although I agree that we should not bash communism at every opportunity, I believe it is wrong to think that if you're bashing the communist regime then you're bashing Vietnam.

I do not recognise this regime and I don't think it is the best representative of the will of the people of Vietnam. Any government that is short of being Democratically elected by the people is not a legitimate regime.

Sat_Cong · June 28th, 2006, 01:49 AM

Wantuhoa and the rest - Amen....

Bang - Thanks, you are 1+++ for now....

One thing I don't understand...how come when other talks about hcm it's ok...and when I talk about him...it becomes political topic?...may be I should change my username?!?!..I apologize for my language...but in no way I brought his name up for political issue....so don't be so sensitive about it...

June 25th, 2006, 06:05 PM	#1
akitoto Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6 Likes (Received): 0	Must-visit places in Vietnam Hi, I intend to travel to Vietnam to understand her architecture. What are the must-see architecture-worthy places in Vietnam?

June 26th, 2006, 10:14 PM	#6
Sat_Cong Vietnam Cong Hoa Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 68 Likes (Received): 0	Wow....scary...don't get me wrong but those are the places that some of the tours offer in the package....What's wrong with going to see his death body? or the hole in the ground where we used to fight against our enemy. I thought we are proud of those places...I have been to those places and I just want to pass on to other to check out...what's wrong with that? I guess I don't have any permission to talk about my uncle since I am not his "chau ngoan" then....sorry...man, it's so hard to please everybody in here. Last edited by Sat_Cong; June 26th, 2006 at 11:15 PM.

June 27th, 2006, 04:33 AM	#12
Saigoneseguy Vivat capitalismus Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Saigon Posts: 5,981 Likes (Received): 16	This is not only a construction forum, it serves also as a small "Embassy" of our country. Other ppl looks into this forum and get to know not only buildings here and there but also to understand Vietnamese culture and lifestyle. Others might not even care bout buildings. Many has came and quoted: "Oh, i didn't know there is a Vietnam forum here! Let's take a look and see what they're talking about" Needless to say we're painfully in need of moderation, toleration and self-control from our fellow members. @Sat_Cong: What do you think you could do for our homeland's image by presenting HCM's shit house and his dead body (not at the same place) as a must-see destination?? Shame on you! You and other overseas "democracy activist" are actually drawing back the democracy process in Vietnam, do you know that? Vietnamese inside the country look into you and your rubbish as non-stop basher then turn their back to everything named "democracy", do you know that? Next time give yourself a thought before doing anything like this. Better be the last time before someone report it to the mods. @bang: I need translation. __________________ ' ' Sài Gòn không bao giờ ngủ - Vì tiền không bao giờ đủ ' Last edited by Saigoneseguy; June 27th, 2006 at 04:57 AM.

June 27th, 2006, 05:25 AM	#14
Saigoneseguy Vivat capitalismus Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Saigon Posts: 5,981 Likes (Received): 16	And i think you misunderstood Freedom of Speech too. First, it wasn't made to promote any misconduct. Like any freedom in this world, there are always conditions along. A dictator cannot have freedom of politics coz he could harm many ppl with that freedom. It applies consistenly when it is appropriate and necessary to achieve its goal. And when you said "so suck it up if you don't like my post" and tell him not to 'lecturing' you, you are blatantly violating wantuhoa's freedom of speech. __________________ ' ' Sài Gòn không bao giờ ngủ - Vì tiền không bao giờ đủ '

June 27th, 2006, 11:08 PM	#17
Baria Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 272 Likes (Received): 0	Monsooner, SQD and Wantuhua, I do share your view. Thanks for saying it. __________________ Go ahead, make it better!

June 26th, 2006, 01:03 AM	#2
Pho-sure BANNED Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 249 Likes (Received): 0	North: Hanoi - Temple of Literature, One-pillar Pagoda, various temples etc Ninh Binh and Bac Ninh - temples and pagodas Yen Tu mountain - various temple complexes Central: Hue - Thien Mu pagoda, Royal Citadel, Mausoleums South: No comment

June 26th, 2006, 06:18 PM	#3
Sat_Cong Vietnam Cong Hoa Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 68 Likes (Received): 0	in addition from Pho-Sure places.... North - HCM death body, HCM sh.t house... South - "Cuchi" tunnel....

June 27th, 2006, 12:22 AM	#8
Sat_Cong Vietnam Cong Hoa Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 68 Likes (Received): 0	First of all, I don't think I need your damn permission to say anything in here...regarding my tone of my implied I careless if you appreciate it or not...it's a freedom of speech forum so suck it up if you don't like my post. Did i call your name out when I post these stuff? Did I say somewhere in here that if you don't like my posts..ignore me? I don't put a nife on your neck to tell you to read my post right? so don't sit there and try to lecture me....If I hurt your feeling...go tell someone who cares

June 27th, 2006, 12:49 AM	#10
coolink fearless Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bồng Lai Posts: 32,592 Likes (Received): 895	Oh canada our home and native land....true patriot love in our thy son command....... en francais: tron nei soix, ne tu ne po pe ....il xe po pe la qoi

June 27th, 2006, 01:43 AM	#11
Sat_Cong Vietnam Cong Hoa Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 68 Likes (Received): 0	How could I say it's a manson when it's in fact a shit house? and I can't say his lifeful body either...cuz he's dead....that's common sense right there for you...my dear teacher!

June 27th, 2006, 05:15 AM	#13
Sat_Cong Vietnam Cong Hoa Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 68 Likes (Received): 0	Saigon_Monsooner---I thought those are our historical landmarks?!?!?!....I don't know about you guys, but I am myself proud of them.....maybe you want to teach me how to say it right niext time huh.....See..I thought about telling him/her the reality of our country like: beware of your wallet, don't trust all the sweet talk of the bauties, practice safe sex..bring the condoms, make sure things you buy are real, or don't give money to the baggers cuz they can jump you by a group...if you want to give make sure others don't see, if you ride bikes watch for "yellow ants" and "green monkeys", make sure you bargain to 1/3 of the "telling the truth price"...etc...but I thought these things may offended someone or doesn't look good for our country, so I told him/her to see places of our great uncle...and you still don't like it...what the hell should I do?....get a permission of what to say before I post....damn...it's hard to please everybody.

June 27th, 2006, 05:07 PM	#15
Sat_Cong Vietnam Cong Hoa Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 68 Likes (Received): 0	Monsooner - Go back and read from the begining, pal....did he/she violate my freedom of speech first or I did? I didn't jump in and started to tell other what to do, did I? I don't recall steping on anyone's tail. You can talk all you want, but don't direct me..by doing that, you just violated my right...you can only direct me if I commit a crime which I don't think so... now, by calling a restroom/toilet a shit house is not a crime; calling a lifeless body a death body...that's not a crime either.....and by the way, why bother talking to losers?

June 27th, 2006, 05:28 PM	#16
vkameleon Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 681 Likes (Received): 0	Nobody tell you to shut up or to get out of the forums. However, we do expect a bit of respect and courtesy. This thread is not by anyway meant to be a political debate, yet you still bring it over. Again, all we want is just to respect and have a bit of courtesy. It's not hard if you want create a political debate in this forum instead of sabotaging this thread started by a non-Vietnamese who wants to explore Vietnam. Đâu có đòi hỏi bao nhiêu đâu? Chỉ cần không chửi thề trong cái thread mà người nước ngoài muốn tìm hiểu về đất nước Việt Nam. Tự do ngôn luận cũng có nơi có chỗ chứ chẳng lẽ anh muốn tuỳ úy chửi thề ở cái diễn đàn này??

June 27th, 2006, 11:45 PM	#18
coolink fearless Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bồng Lai Posts: 32,592 Likes (Received): 895	sat cong i share your view u're number one man noi ve cong san 1 loi cung la thua ....va van loi cung chua du so cong san people are number one too everybody's number 1 i'm number 1+++

June 28th, 2006, 12:21 AM	#19
Pho-sure BANNED Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 249 Likes (Received): 0	Enough with the rubbish. Although I agree that we should not bash communism at every opportunity, I believe it is wrong to think that if you're bashing the communist regime then you're bashing Vietnam. I do not recognise this regime and I don't think it is the best representative of the will of the people of Vietnam. Any government that is short of being Democratically elected by the people is not a legitimate regime.

June 28th, 2006, 01:49 AM	#20
Sat_Cong Vietnam Cong Hoa Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NorCal Posts: 68 Likes (Received): 0	Wantuhoa and the rest - Amen.... Bang - Thanks, you are 1+++ for now.... One thing I don't understand...how come when other talks about hcm it's ok...and when I talk about him...it becomes political topic?...may be I should change my username?!?!..I apologize for my language...but in no way I brought his name up for political issue....so don't be so sensitive about it...

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