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Old August 8th, 2006, 12:20 AM   #1
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CBD CENTRE - #Completed: ANZ Centre (161 Castlereagh) - 46L / 195M / office

part 1-(May 11,2003-aug8,2006)
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=39276

Approved as an office tower, A residential tower and a mixed use tower (bottom half office,top half resi)
height-188m/roof-170m
44 office levels or 50 resi levels
- 1,500 sq m floor plates
- 3,000 sq m of retail
- 113 car parking (650 if resi)
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site is currently available for $130mil as resi project.



50 Level DA Site on 4490m2 with Views
$130,000,000
238-248 PITT ST & CASTLEREAGH ST SYDNEY
Features: Ensuite, Intercom, A/C, There is a combination of Studio, 1, 2 & 3 bedroom apartments with basement parking
Total FSA: 62,618m2
Retail FSA: 2,254m2
Car Spaces: 665 Basement Parking
Suit: Residential Development Private & Serviced Apartments

Private Apartments: 522 Apartments
33 x Studio, 176 x 1 bedrooms, 228 x 2 bedrooms, 85 x 3 bedrooms
Located (mid rise) Level 13-21 x 326
(high rise) Level 22-40 x 331
(sky rise) Level 41-50 x 65
Serviced Apartments: 195 Apartments
39 x Studio, 117 x 1 bedrooms, 39 x 2 bedrooms
Located (low rise) Level 3-12 x 195

Recent model pic showing the curved line of approved office bldgs awaiting erection with 163 castlereagh at top.
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Old August 8th, 2006, 07:20 AM   #2
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While I don't love it ... at least we are getting some smooth glass for a change it seems.
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Old August 8th, 2006, 01:31 PM   #3
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Another residential tower!!

Excellent.
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Old August 8th, 2006, 01:46 PM   #4
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^ well not sure yet. maybe Meriton willl be wise and buy the mixed use DA, have bottom 20 floors office and top 20 resi. best of both worlds.
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Old August 8th, 2006, 02:29 PM   #5
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^ well not sure yet. maybe Meriton willl be wise and buy the mixed use DA, have bottom 20 floors office and top 20 resi. best of both worlds.
Yeah let's hope that's what they do.
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Old August 8th, 2006, 01:52 PM   #6
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The second render makes it look like the IAG/NRMA building on George Street. I prefer the colours of the first one.
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Old August 8th, 2006, 06:51 PM   #7
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from the multiplex site



funny they've got it under "current projects" and "mixed use", alongside their other known project for Mac Bank at King Street Wharf. perhaps something IS happening behind the scenes... maybe?
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Old August 9th, 2006, 02:39 AM   #8
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thats the worst render ever
how can they even dare to place that anywhere !
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gee, it even blots out 243m Citigroup tower.
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Old December 6th, 2006, 01:40 AM   #10
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heard around the traps today Com bank are intrested in making 163 castle its new 65,000sqm HQ. excellent. best news ever.
set to start 2007.
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It is great news. A bit of a downgrade in the minds of comm bank i would think tho. They would be hesitant not to be located in the finiancial district with all the other banks. But i'm sure a quick glance at one of the world's largest banks across the rd would be reassuring and vindicate moving to 'midtown'.
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not the discount CD store! little Chinese takeaway building things will be missed
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Old December 13th, 2006, 06:40 AM   #13
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not the discount CD store! little Chinese takeaway building things will be missed
I'm not going to miss it one bit. The place is a dump
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why has this taken so long to get going. I remeber this when I worked in citigroup tower abouit 3 years ago
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one word- tennants. It needs 65000sqm of space filled. com bank were thinking of going into it but now there going to Homebush.
Sydney is picking up with its office vacancy so 2007 and on is looking promising. it has everyhting. great design, great location, great views.
this tower will eventually get going, its just when?
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Why is it so hard to influence companies to move their HQ to Sydney these days! Back in the old days (well prior 2000) I remember they were fighting over 2sqm of Sydney. To get your foot in Sydney was enough! Maybe Im wrong, but I remember it was all about Sydney, what happened? How did we get here? It feels like for the passed few years we are regressing. I blame it on decentralisation... its ALWAYS a bad thing for a city and its economy. There are too many mini cities in Sydney- Parra, St leonards, Nth Ryde, Chatswood, Blacktown, Liverpool, Nth Sydney... Not good. Other Aus. cities are taking over too... Companies should head back, more money should be spent in to trying to maintain Sydney as one of the financial capitals.
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It's a question of access - Public Transport for the employees.

There's been a trend to develop where the population is, and so more localised mini-CBD's are rising.

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Why is it so hard to influence companies to move their HQ to Sydney these days! Back in the old days (well prior 2000) I remember they were fighting over 2sqm of Sydney. To get your foot in Sydney was enough! Maybe Im wrong, but I remember it was all about Sydney, what happened? How did we get here? It feels like for the passed few years we are regressing. I blame it on decentralisation... its ALWAYS a bad thing for a city and its economy. There are too many mini cities in Sydney- Parra, St leonards, Nth Ryde, Chatswood, Blacktown, Liverpool, Nth Sydney... Not good. Other Aus. cities are taking over too... Companies should head back, more money should be spent in to trying to maintain Sydney as one of the financial capitals.
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Why is it so hard to influence companies to move their HQ to Sydney these days! Back in the old days (well prior 2000) I remember they were fighting over 2sqm of Sydney. To get your foot in Sydney was enough! Maybe Im wrong, but I remember it was all about Sydney, what happened? How did we get here? It feels like for the passed few years we are regressing. I blame it on decentralisation... its ALWAYS a bad thing for a city and its economy. There are too many mini cities in Sydney- Parra, St leonards, Nth Ryde, Chatswood, Blacktown, Liverpool, Nth Sydney... Not good. Other Aus. cities are taking over too... Companies should head back, more money should be spent in to trying to maintain Sydney as one of the financial capitals.
What you are failing to acknowledge is that it is still all sydney, satellite CBDs included. It might not be the symbolic downtown in every sence but the decentralisation has also brought about the expansion of the city which puts it far ahead of any city in Australia. Any massive urban area like Tokyo or Manhattan developed in many respects like this too and now look at those places. Sydney will strengthen and gaps will be filled over time until we have one massive urban agglomeration of skyscrapers and dense building spaning much of the inner urban areas. It will grow up and nodes will merge and the city will become more visually cohesive.

I too would love to see more of a concentration on the inner city and see areas like Green Square, King Cross, broadway and Ultimo developed with much taller towers which would give rise to areas joining up with the main CBD in far taller and more dense fashion. It all takes time and eventually companies will come back and start investing and demanding more space in the city centre.

What council has failed to do which New York and many US cities have done well is create a reason for the varying enclaves. I would still prefer more emphasis on 'diamond districts', 'fashion districts' and such like where like businesses are given an impetus to belong in an area. Sydney can't even sort out where it's financial district should be, we have no clear vision and things are developing organically with little direction. We do have enclaves but their success is limited with zero support or legitimate recognition. Central could have been the theatre and entertainment precinct with TV stations and alike, Surry Hills already has a strong fashion and design presence and this could have been branded and fostered. We have a china town but why not invest in creating a real city of villages and market areas specifically to business type and create a theme and a genuine desire for companies to be a part of it? It would make the city far more practical and mirror successful development in other cities.
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Old June 16th, 2011, 03:23 AM   #19
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What council has failed to do which New York and many US cities have done well is create a reason for the varying enclaves. I would still prefer more emphasis on 'diamond districts', 'fashion districts' and such like where like businesses are given an impetus to belong in an area. Sydney can't even sort out where it's financial district should be, we have no clear vision and things are developing organically with little direction. We do have enclaves but their success is limited with zero support or legitimate recognition. Central could have been the theatre and entertainment precinct with TV stations and alike, Surry Hills already has a strong fashion and design presence and this could have been branded and fostered. We have a china town but why not invest in creating a real city of villages and market areas specifically to business type and create a theme and a genuine desire for companies to be a part of it? It would make the city far more practical and mirror successful development in other cities.
But have have those 'districts' in NYC been fashioned by the government or was it an organic process by commercial/community enterprise who clustered together into areas? Many of the traditional districts of Manhattan have vanished or moved off island in the past couple of decades having been priced out of the market and gentrified into upmarket residential.

I think a big problem with Sydney in delivering proper districts is the excessive price of real estate (according to The Economist it is over inflated by 50+%?), poor transportation and battle with suburban sprawl which offers more space at a cheaper price. Why would any of the ethnic community villages/districts in the suburbs move into the inner-city?

A more important question is do you really want more government bureaucracy where the council imposes what type of business can open where?! Imagine if the council rejected the Commonwealth Bank moving to Darling Harbour, HSBC/Citi moving to Townhall because it didn't fit within their vision of planned zones. It would be just as frustrating as the existing shadowing restrictions they currently impose.
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Not to mention the various "Business Parks" around the place.
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