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Old December 23rd, 2006, 11:16 AM   #1
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[Croatia] - Pelješac Bridge

They have released the designs and details on the Pelješac Bridge after negotiations were finalised a few weeks ago with Bosnia. Below are some renders of the new bridge:

Pelješac: Drugi najveći most u Europi
Piše: Krešimir Žabec


Projekt mosta Pelješac završen je ovog tjedna i Jutarnji list prvi objavljuje računalne simulacije budućeg, po veličini drugog mosta u Europi.

Nakon što su povjerenstva Hrvatske i Bosne i Hercegovine potpisala sporazum o pelješkom mostu, projektantski tim Zavoda za mostove Građevinskog fakulteta u Zagrebu na čelu s Jurom Radićem i Zlatkom Šauerom dovršio je posljednje detalje konstrukcije ovog objekta.

Most će biti gredni, ovješen, dugačak 2300 metara, visok 55 metara iznad mora. Most će nositi 10 stupova, a na sredini bit će postavljena dva pilona koja će biti visoki 170 metara, odnosno 115 metara iznad trase mosta. Piloni će biti čeličnim šipkama spojeni na most.

Raspon između ta dva pilona bit će 568 metara, što je drugi najveći raspon u Europi. Raspon među ostalim stupovima bit će 180 metara. Ovako velika visina zahtijeva i veliku širinu mosta te će on biti širok 20 metara, što će omogućiti četverotračni vozni trak na mostu. Prema već poznatim najavama, gradnja mosta trebala bi početi u rano ljeto sljedeće godine.

Iako će se cijena gradnje znati tek nakon provedenog natječaja, jedan od autora ovog projekta, Jure Radić, tvrdi kako je projektirana cijena ovog mosta između 200 i 220 milijuna eura. Prema njegovim riječima, prvo će početi gradnja navedenih pilona, a cjelokupni most mogao bi biti završen za tri do četiri godine.

Obavljena su i ispitivanja podmorja ispod mosta, a prema rezultatima stupovi i most morat će se temeljiti na dubini između 50 i 70 metara ispod dna mora. Kako je dubina na tom dijelu oko 30 metara, ukupna visina stupova bit će oko 150 metara, a visina pilona oko 240 metara. Usporedbe radi, visina zagrebačke katedrale je 103 metra.

Jure Radić naglašava kako je ovo optimalno rješenje koje omogućuje svim vrstama plovila da prođu ispod mosta, u potpunosti se uklapa u okoliš, a prilikom projektiranja vodilo se računa da ga mogu sagraditi domaći izvođači.

Osim gradnje mosta trebat će sagraditi i pristupne prometnice sa sjevera i na otoku Pelješcu. Na samom Pelješcu morat će se sagraditi dva tunela - jedan dužine 2170 metara i drugi 450 metara - te dva manja mosta dužine 500 te 50 metara.

Od 30-ak verzija tri dospjele u javnost
U posljednje dvije godine Zavod za mostove na Građevinskom fakultetu u Zagrebu izradio je tridesetak projekcija mostova.

Od toga su se u javnost probile tri najozbiljnije verzije - gredni, ovješeni i pokretni most. Gredna i ovješena verzija izabrane su jer su tehnički bile optimalne uz prihvatljivu cijenu, a pokretni most bio je pokušaj politike da izbjegne mogućnost da most ode u visine.

Prema projektima, osnovne dimenzije svih odbačenih varijanti su u pravilu bile iste. Most je dužine 2300 metara, širine 15 metara i visine 30 metara iznad mora. Cijena gradnje grednog ili ovješenog mosta bila bi između 240 i 280 milijuna eura.

Gredni most trebalo je nositi 15 stupova, svaki visine zagrebačke katedrale! Kod ovješenog mosta piloni iznad mosta trebali su biti visoki oko 50 metara, a sajlama bi bili povezani s konstrukcijom objekta. Ovaj je most, pak, trebalo nositi 13 stupova. Pokretni most je trebao imao mogućnost podizanja u sredini, a otvor je trebao biti dug 90 metara.


BROJKE



* 2300 m - dužina mosta
* 20 m - širina mosta
* 10 - stupova
* 568 m raspon između pilona
* 180 m raspon između mostova
* 55 m visina iznad mora
* 170 m visina pilona iznad mora
* 150 m (cca) ukupna visina stupova
* 240 m ukupna visina pilona
* 200-220 milijuna eura cijena gradnje
* 3-4 godine vrijeme gradnje

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Old December 23rd, 2006, 11:24 AM   #2
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Here are details in English:

The Pelješac Bridge will 2.3 kilometers long and 20 meters across, it will be four lanes wide

The central aspect of the bridge are 2 pylons rising 170m above sea level or 115m above the roadway. Therefore the central part of the bridge will be cable suspended.

The deck will sit 55m above sea level as agreed with Bosnia.

There will be another 10 supporting piers in its construction along with the two huge pylons.

It is expected construction will take 3-4 years at a projected cost of 200-220 million euros.

The distance between the two central 170m tall pylons is 568m making this the second widest suspension bridge in Europe!

Construction starts next year, therefore in the summer of 2007!
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Old December 23rd, 2006, 03:07 PM   #3
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I apsolutly love it!
The design is fabulous!
This is a true mega-bridge!

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Old December 23rd, 2006, 03:28 PM   #4
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WOOW, now THAT'S a BRIDGE!!
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I hope you'll appreciate my effort here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peljesac_Bridge

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable-s...r_construction

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Old December 27th, 2006, 03:25 PM   #6
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The Pelješac Bridge will 2.3 kilometers long and 20 meters across, it will be four lanes wide

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No emergency lane? no separate lane for bicycles?
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No emergency lane? no separate lane for bicycles?
the bridge is going to be a part of fast road (reserved only for vehicles with engines), so no need for bicycle lanes. and emergency lane - it's not a part of motorway, although it is allways nice to have it. probably there will be few emergency stops.
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Old December 27th, 2006, 09:17 PM   #8
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Glavne gradske ulice bi po pravilima trebale biti široke 3,25 m. Na autocesti je najmanja propisana širina 3,6 m. To će reći da most može komforno imati 2 trake pune širine u oba smjera, s još prilično prostora za središnji odjelni zid, kao i bočne zidove. nek je svaki uzme i po jedan metar širine, još tu ima prostora teoretski i za jednu traku za pješake. Osobno, ja bi ju stavio u sredinu mosta, al budemo vidjeli... Za zaustavne trake nema mjesta, osim ako će same vozne trake biti uže od propisa, recimo na nivou gradskih. Doduše, i tako bi zaustavne trake bile tek nekih 2,5 m široke.

Ima li ikakvih planova dovest željeznicu do dubrovnika? ako se planira u slijedećih 15-30 godina, zaista će biti šteta što most neće biti projektiran makar za samo jedan jedini kolosjek. (pa nek vlakovi čekaju pred mostom ako ne može drugačije) Mislim da dodatnih 500tinjak tona ne bi smio biti problem takvoj grdosiji od konstrukcije, čan ni na sredini najdužeg ovješenog dijela mosta. na kraju krajeva, mogu se napraviti i mali ranžirni kolodvori s obje strane moste, gdje bi se preveliki vlakovi cijepali u manje za potrebe prelaska mosta. ionako nije da bi baš svakih 10 min prolazio vlak.
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Pa taj most sirine 20 m je dovoljan za gradnju autoceste. Most Humber u ENgleskoj ima sirinu od 22 m, ali sa dodanim pjesackim prijelazom.
Sto se tice zeljeznice, to je super ideja, ali mi nije poznato da ima takvih planova zasad.
Zeljeznica bi se mogla i jednostavno provesti preko Neuma. To je lakse, jer ako nema stanica, ni zaustavljanja, provoz je jednostavna stvar. Postoji tzv. Durchfahrtszug u Austriji koji ide od Salzburga do Innsbrucka bez zaustavljanja preko 90 km njemackog teritorija, a smatra se austrijskim, a ne medjunarodnim vlakom, jer se u Njemackoj nitko ne moze ukrcati ni iskrcati.
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The Pelješac Bridge will 2.3 kilometers long and 20 meters across, it will be four lanes wide

The central aspect of the bridge are 2 pylons rising 170m above sea level or 115m above the roadway. Therefore the central part of the bridge will be cable suspended.

The deck will sit 55m above sea level as agreed with Bosnia.

There will be another 10 supporting piers in its construction along with the two huge pylons.

It is expected construction will take 3-4 years at a projected cost of 200-220 million euros.

The distance between the two central 170m tall pylons is 568m making this the second widest suspension bridge in Europe!

Construction starts next year, therefore in the summer of 2007!
Why was it only 55 metres above the sea level? I read that the sea level will rise some 14 metres in the next few decades, due to the melting of the ice in the poles and the Adriatic won't be en exception. That leaves only 41 metres give or take above the sea level. I think they should go as high as 69 metres, just in case.
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Why was it only 55 metres above the sea level? I read that the sea level will rise some 14 metres in the next few decades, due to the melting of the ice in the poles and the Adriatic won't be en exception. That leaves only 41 metres give or take above the sea level. I think they should go as high as 69 metres, just in case.
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just u wait.. what is the necessary height of Pelješac bridge deck anyway?
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Hmm, 20 metres is a very close fit for a motorway bridge..

I really love the design though, best of luck to you!

And by the way, Mate there is already an article on the Pelješac bridge here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelješac_bridge
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Hmm, 20 metres is a very close fit for a motorway bridge..
Peljeski most bi po najvecem rasponu (568m) bio drugi najveci most u Europi. Prvi je Normandie most u Francuskoj, a treci grcki Rio-Antirio (dolje na slikama), koji ima 560 m, ali ima tri takva raspona. Grcki most ima sirinu od 27 m, a ima i nesto puput zaustavne trake, dok su prometne trake cini mi se nasto uze od uobicajenih (dozvoljena brzina na mostu je 80 km/h). Sa svake strane ima i pjesacku traku. Za dvije trake i punu zaustavnu traku autoceste treba oko 28 m (nas most Cetina!). Za dvadeset metara sirine moze se dobiti 4 trake nesto uze od uobicajenih, brzina bi vjerojatno bila ogranicena na 80 km/h.
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If I understood you correctly we are talking about the bridge, if so, the toll will be a lot higher than proposed price of 33 cents, we are talking at least 5kuna per small passenger car and 20 for large trucks and lorries and bus coaches.
And 500o cars a day would seem to be very low number, if we consider number of cars using this stretch of the road currently you need to double that figure for future growth and you’d be in right area. Does anyone know how many cars use Krk Bridge?
Use that as a model, use same toll price and you are in right area, I think new Pelejesac bridge might not be most financially feasible investment, but if it cuts down the bureaucratic and border delays as well as increases flow of goods and visitors than the effect of the bridge would be twofold, financial and economical.
Long term return could be in billions of euro saved.
I think you should use this calculation
5kuna x 8000 cars per day x 364 days
20Kuna x 500 Trucks/Buses x 364
Time and Bureaucratic savings x 364 days
Economical potential and long term return.
Thank you for your contribution. Well, I didn't say the bridge crossing would cost 33 eurocents. It's only the (under)estimated toll for the passage of the 6 km over the Bosnian territory. I also deliberately underestimated the number of VPD. Once the whole Adriatic-ionian motorway is commissioned, it could be more than double.
The Krk bridge toll is 30 Kn for cars, 70 Kn for trucks and buses with 2 or 3 axes, 120 Kn for 4 and more axes.
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A kaj se dogodilo sa primjerice lisabonskim "Mostom 25 travnja"; i on je u Europi i ima veći raspon od svih kaj si ti nabrojal!!!

"The bridge is 2.278km long between its anchorages with the main span being 1.013km long".
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Ako ćemo cjepidlačit, i za dva istambulska mosta koji spajaju europski i azijski kontinent bi se moglo reći da su u Europi;

Bosphorus Bridge;It is 1,560 m long with a deck width of 39 m. The distance between the towers (main span) is 1,074 m!!!

Fatih Sultan Bridge; It is 1,510 m long with a deck width of 39 m. The distance between the towers (main span) is 1,090 m!!!
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Ne vjerujem svojim očima!
Ljudi moji, pa vi govorite o VISEĆIM, umjesto o OVJEŠENIM mostovima!
Viseći imaju raspone do oko 1.500m, a ovješeni do oko 500m!
Pelješki je ovješeni tip mosta i ima drugi raspon u Europi!
Po ukupnoj dužini je na 12. mjestu (ako ne računamo ona dva mosta u Rusiji)!

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