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Old December 25th, 2006, 07:08 PM   #1
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Recapping Seattle 2006 - April May & June

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Hope you enjoyed. July and August next.
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Old December 26th, 2006, 03:07 AM   #2
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I'm so impressed with the pictures of Seattle

We have a nice city in Baltimore also but your town is beautiful by the pictures. I need to make a trip out west to see your great city.
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Old December 29th, 2006, 03:30 AM   #3
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I see you managed to find the 10 days it didn't rain to take your photos.

How 'bout showing the way Seattle looks 90% of the time: i.e., grey and rainy?

Don't try to fool me with photos and meaningless stats in an attempt to claim that Seattle is beautiful and sunny most of the time; I live in Vancouver, after all.
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Old December 29th, 2006, 04:44 AM   #4
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Grey & rainy 90% of the time? I don't think so. If it was really like that I wouldn't be living here. No city in North America is grey & rainy 90 percent of the time. And what meaningless stats?
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Old December 29th, 2006, 06:53 AM   #5
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Look, I'm from Seattle, and what always kills me is the "Seattle booster" type citing some ridiculous statistics about how many sunny days the place has whenever anyone mentions how much it rains there.

Maybe it's not overcast literally 90% of the time in Seattle, but after a single Winter there it sure feels that way. Plus, that rain sort of "mists" down half the time (we used to joke about the days when you didn't really need an umbrella, just a Pendleton shirt—you know, like the grungers wore): it's worse than the Oregon "drizzle" in that it takes infinitely longer for an inch of rain to fall from the sky than it does in a good two-hour Front Range or Mid-Atlantic midsummer monsoon (where it clears up afterwards).

I'm leaving Vancouver next year and can't afford to go back to San Francisco. I have to stay on the West Coast, and I'm really not looking forward to living in Seattle, but SoCal sucks (yeah, I've lived there too) and Portland is just as rainy as Seattle but 100 times more lame.

We've had positively miserable weather here in the Northwest during the past few months, and if you're going to be perfectly honest about it you have to admit that it's not really that unusual.

Posting a bunch of sunny pics with buoyant people going through that "SAD rebound" mania we get when it's actually sort of nice misrepresents a place where most of the time we're all going about as grey-faced under our toques and umbrellas as a bunch of Londoners.
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Old December 29th, 2006, 10:47 AM   #6
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I guess me coming from the eastcoast I find Seattle weather quite nice. No bitter cold, rare dustings of snow; if any at all. It's pacific northwest people like yourself who think Seattle's weather sucks. No bitter cold, no 2 feet of snow, no hot humid summers, no cockroaches. How could you possibly rag on Seattle weather? Green grass, geraniums, verbena and pansies still overflowing in my pots on the front porch. Don't lie and tell the world it rains here all the time when you and I know it doesn't. Its people like you who complain if its 40 degrees it's too cold or if it reaches 80 in the summer it's way too hot. Besides the thread says April, May and June. Is it mostly cloudy, rainy and ugly during those months?
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Old December 29th, 2006, 11:06 AM   #7
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Yeah. Anyone who has spent much time there will tell you that you can't count on a sunny day before late June or after September. I can't remember how many barbecues and wedding receptions I saw ruined by the quixotic weather of the Northwest.

Ask anyone over the age of 30 about the "Summers" of '82 and '83. It never stopped raining. Fall came and everyone expected an Indian Summer. Guess what? It kept raining, all through the Winter and beyond. Those were the years that we never put away our Winter sweaters and never brought out our shorts and t-shirts. It ended up being almost three straight years of predominantly cold, wet weather.

I remember moving to California, then visiting my family in the Northwest. The first thing I noticed was the miserably dull colours everyone was wearing. The second was the depressed, neurasthenic expressions everyone wore. It even made living in a gang neighbourhood in LA where I was mugged the first week I lived there preferable to living in the Land of the Living Dead . . . (which is also a good moniker for Canada, now that I think about it—check out how Canadians actually dress and you will find an apt comparison).

I've lived in the flyover. I'll trade a couple of below 0ºC days and a few +35ºC with 100% humidity for a bit of sunshine now and then.

Better yet, give me a million dollars and I'll buy 500 square feet of San Francisco to live in—where the only downside is foggy Summers. The rest of the year is marvellous . . .

Imagine, seeing the sun in February . . . and it's not a drought year.

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Old December 29th, 2006, 11:37 AM   #8
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'You can't count on a sunny day before June or after September' is another northwesterner's exaggeration. I'll take SF weather too over Seattle's but I'll take Seattle's weather over most of North America. Before I moved here 6 years ago I was expecting Seattle the way you described it. It just isn't true. Oh, and today what was the weather like?
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Old December 29th, 2006, 09:04 PM   #9
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It's hardly an exaggeration. I spent all but three of the first 25 years of my life in Washington or Oregon, and moved back to the Northwest 10 years ago. The academic calendar for Oregon's state universities runs from late September to mid-June (or at least it used to), and I recall a few commencements that went on in the rain. My birthday's in August, and I even remember quite a few outdoor birthday parties being moved inside because of the rain as well. The year my father died (2000) we considered ourselves lucky that "the rains" held off until the day after his last birthday party on 7 October. You can usually see and feel the switch when the rainy season is starting or ending.

As for today? Well, it's overcast and it's already rained once this morning. If you're talking about yesterday: well, yes, we actually had two (very short) days of sunshine after weeks without seeing any.

On the CTV national news last night they showed the top ten weather stories for Canada in 2006. The rotten BC weather in November and December made the top two, and last winter's record rain in BC was the #9 story.

When I lived in the flyover and complained about the ice and snow, just about everyone I knew who had ever lived in the Northwest would say to me "I'll take this over one of those interminable rainy Winters any day." I've got a college buddy who moved to Seattle from the Bay Area about five years ago. He lasted all of two Winters in Seattle before he couldn't stand it any longer, and he grew up in Buffalo.
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Old December 29th, 2006, 09:55 PM   #10
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Boo Hoo -I think it's funny when people complain about weather and take it really personally as if mother nature gives a fuck whether you like it or not. It's been raining for thousands of years before you got here and it will be raining after your dead and gone. It is an ecosystem that thrives off of precipitation. I too will sometimes get tired of it but then I realise it is my decision to be here and to complain about it is ridiculous. If it weren't for the rain the entire region would look and feel completely different. No lush forest, ferns evergreen shrubs. The culture of the northwest would not exist. So all I can say is get over it Yank or move. There are plenty of places that can provide sunnier weather for you. Go bitch about it to the native tribes of the region and see how they feel. The plants and animals of the region have provided for them and their ancestors. The rain is an integral part of this, better yet read Chief Seattle's famous letter to the U.S. gov. off the internet and humble yourself, you sound like a spoiled brat.

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Old December 29th, 2006, 11:37 PM   #11
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Don't be such a jerk. If you'll look at my posts you'll see that my main reason for commenting on this thread was that I thought the photos on this thread and its January-March counterpart misrepresented Seattle in the fact that nearly every one of them showed sun and blue skies. The OP kept denying that the Northwest is a water-logged swamp most of the time, and I questioned his assertion. That's all.
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Old December 29th, 2006, 11:53 PM   #12
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While it's true that Seattle photos tend to be on drier days, the rain is nothing like as frequent as you're saying Yank. November wasn't just unusual -- it was an all-time record month!

I'm intimately familiar with Seattle weather because I walk over a mile to work each way (uphill each way in fact, in bare feet!). Even in the winter it's usually a dry walk. In the summer I might wear a jacket a half-dozen times.
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Old December 30th, 2006, 12:44 AM   #13
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Don't be such a jerk. If you'll look at my posts you'll see that my main reason for commenting on this thread was that I thought the photos on this thread and its January-March counterpart misrepresented Seattle in the fact that nearly every one of them showed sun and blue skies. The OP kept denying that the Northwest is a water-logged swamp most of the time, and I questioned his assertion. That's all.
Just calling you out on your rant that may have started out as a comment on the sun in the photos and then deviated into a full on smack down about how unhappy people in the PNW are. You can't post what you did and then revert to how innocent your comments were in the first few opening lines. Calling the Northwest a water logged swamp is a perfect example of the passive aggressiveness of your posts. If I had a digital camera I would post pictures of Seattle in the rain or sun and to me both would be beautiful representations of our climate and culture.
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Old December 30th, 2006, 01:40 AM   #14
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I'm intimately familiar with Seattle weather because I walk over a mile to work each way (uphill each way in fact, in bare feet!). Even in the winter it's usually a dry walk. In the summer I might wear a jacket a half-dozen times.
Start telling me about that bridge you want to sell me, dude.

As to the amateur psychologist in the preceding post, if I want to be psychoanalysed I'll pay a professional. You sound like the Uptight Seattleite—minus the "diplomacy". Not to mention that you've just proved my point about the miserable weather making everyone perpetually cranky . . .
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Start telling me about that bridge you want to sell me, dude.

As to the amateur psychologist in the preceding post, if I want to be psychoanalysed I'll pay a professional. You sound like the Uptight Seattleite—minus the "diplomacy". Not to mention that you've just proved my point about the miserable weather making everyone perpetually cranky . . .
No, not an amateur psychologist just someone who is happy where he is at the moment. If I were to become unhappy about that I would leave instead of trying to convince everyone else that they live somewhere miserable.
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Old December 30th, 2006, 03:33 AM   #16
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yank in excile, for god's sake, do we need to put you on a suicide watch? you might be the most depressing person i have ever read typing on a message board.

or are you just a complainer? if you honestly let something that you can't control get you down (i.e. the weather) then I feel sorry for you, I really do.

not to mention, your bitchfest is ruining a great picture thread that pwright has worked hard spending hours taking pictures, loading them on the computer, and sharing them with us. how about a little appreciation? YOU are the one being a jerk and "cranky."


And another thing, quit lumping the northwest into the same category. ever been to the tri-cities, wa area? the 5 inches of precipitation a year and more sunny days than Phoenix really is miserably gray all the time, isn't it?

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Old December 30th, 2006, 07:34 PM   #17
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Thanks for the beautiful pics

I have lived in Seattle for almost 20 years now, and find all of this arguing over the weather ridiculous and a waste of time. Your pictures remind me, even though I see it every day no matter if it's raining or sunny, what a beautiful city Seattle is, and why I love it so. Seattle is a great city and if you don't like the weather leave. I like the other guy from the East Coast find the weather to be just great, green year around, not to cold and certainly not too warm (with the exception of one long very hot spell in July). It's just beautiful city no matter what day of the year it is!
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Old January 1st, 2007, 01:12 PM   #18
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Jeez . . . you people. OK, I've got a question for you: how many of you have had to make significant changes to your address books in the past few years because of friends who have moved away? How many of you are female? How many of you indulge in substances (OTC, prescription or "otherwise"), especially during the darker months of the year?

And just how many of you can be at work on a sunny day between April and June and not go into a panic about not being able to get into your yard to mow the lawn and trim the hedges before it starts raining again (which it will surely do by the time the weekend rolls around)?

First off, to the guy in Eastern Washington: look, I have family in the tri-cities. It's great visiting them—for one thing, you never need a night light with one of them in the room. But when I speak of the "Northwest" I believe it's pretty well understood that the "Pacific Northwest" we're talking about here essentially refers to the area West of the Cascades from the Siskiyous to the "Sunshine Coast" area of BC (God, what a misnomer that is!). Having spent a lot of Summers backpacking in the Cascades growing up I knew from an early age that the it's infinitely preferable to be eaten alive by mosquitos on the East side of the mountains in August than to be soaked to the skin dragging your waterlogged sleeping bag around all day long on the West side.

That said, I remember moving back to Seattle in the mid-90s to people complaining about parking and traffic problems that were laughable from my point of view, and realised that, unlike places that have had urban identities from the beginning (like SF or NY), Seattle was just a small town that recently had gotten big, and people were wasting their energy resenting the change instead of finding a creative way of dealing with it, like in a real city. All around me I saw angry people with pursed lips who wouldn't even exchange a few friendly words with strangers in a coffee shop or a grocery store—even your own neighbours, fer Chrissake—and this was in July with temperatures in the 80s.

One afternoon in November when I was making the three-block walk with my old college buddy from Buffalo from his home to that excellent Cuban coffee place on Queen Anne for his third double shot of the day, he allowed to me as to how he had figured how people managed to live in such a place. "This city runs on coffee, marijuana and porn," he said. Not being a consumer of anything but a strong cup of coffee in the morning myself, I really couldn't relate on a first-hand basis, but evidently it had some sort of resonance with him. Within a year he and his wife had moved away before, as he put it, "we either kill ourselves or each other." I've had at least two or three friends every year move away from here that very reason, even when they're perfectly happy with their professonal lives. They just can't take the climate.

I remember the first trip I made after moving North to visit friends in San Francisco one year in late March. I hit the Siskiyous by noon, and a few hours later I was descending into Redding, seeing green fields, leaves on the trees and sunshine; and I could finally turn off the heater in my car. By the time I reached Vallejo at sunset I could feel the energy of being in a place where there is an actual city in a place where they saw the light of day during the better part of the year—a place where, not incidentally, I was taken more seriously as a professional even though I lack a Y-chromosome than I ever was in insular, puerile Oregon, Washington or British Columbia.

The night after I returned (when, btw, it was pissing down rain as usual) I caught one of the clients of the business I worked for in my backyard looking in my bedroom window watching me undress (he had evidently followed me home from a shop in my neighbourhood one day—where I saw him and had quite properly acknowledged and said hello to him as a matter of business—and discovered where I lived). A few months later someone (I wonder who) broke into my house and overlooked thousands of dollars worth of jewellery and electronics to steal my underwear. I suppose you all think that's funny, but when you're a woman who lives alone it's not exactly something that makes you feel real safe. This client of my boss was another East Coast transplant who evidently must have been running a little short in those days and unable to afford his usual quota of weed and whackoff material, and so decided to terrorise me in the process of making himself feel better. Nothing like that had ever happened to me in San Francisco, even when I wasn't married.

The further North you go, the more delightful it gets for anyone who isn't a white heterosexual male. As a woman, I've noted that, the more homophobic a population is, the worse they treat even straight women like myself. Gay friends of mine here in Vancouver won't even put a rainbow flag in their window or a diversity sticker on their cars, even though there is no shortage of "Scottish and Proud" and other ethnic bullshit pasted on innumerable bumpers in the areas. "We aren't interested in getting shot," one gay couple told me, here in Canada—you know, where gay marriage is legal and where they have stricter gun laws than the US.

Over the course of four weeks here in Vancouver from mid-November to the week before Christmas we had Pineapple Express flooding and landslides into local reservoirs resulting in no potable water for a municipality of 2 million for two weeks, followed by a paralysing snowstorm that ended just in time for hurricane force winds and power outages that lasted from 12 hours to several days in the GVRD. We've had people literally coming to blows over bottled water in the shops (a far cry from the way people pulled together after the Loma Prieta earthquake in California) and a whole metropolitan area snarled with traffic jams from accidents cause by eejits who haven't the slightest clue how to drive in snow and who literally bought their drivers' licences from the Provincial government without examination upon arrival in Canada. Oh, and in the last ten days we've had even more snow and even an afternoon of sleet. If I wanted to drive in sleet I could be in Boston or some other real place, not freakin' Vancouver or Seattle.

So, great: post a bunch of happy-face pics of normally dreary Seattle and get more of you disaffected straight men from other parts of the US to move out here to eventually get all creepy and predatory on us poor women (or get aggro on the gay guys who are actually getting some) after you've gone stir-crazy from being cooped up indoors the better part of the year.

Any of you who don't indulge in chemical assistance and porn to keep yourselves happy are free to tell me I'm full of it. And slag me all you want. I've already decided not to waste any more time on these internet fora in the New Year. I have to get my house ready to put on the market so I can get the hell out of BC. Because of the transient nature of the population here (mostly due to Canadians who decide they'd rather freeze their asses off on the prairies or in Ontario than end up suicidal from constant rain), most people here won't have anything to do with you if you weren't born and raised here, and I have to admit I don't blame them. Unfortunately, the business community for the most part feels the same way and I have to get out of here before I end up on the streets. My main regret is that, short of winning a lottery that I don't play anyway, I can't afford to return to a decent urban context in a latitude far enough South that people don't need Prozac, bong hits or triple shots (or some combination thereof) just to get out of bed in the morning.

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lol @ Yank In Exile
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