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Old May 23rd, 2007, 02:55 PM   #1
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LONDON | West Ham stadium | 60,000+ | Proposed

not exactly the most reliable of sources, but worth a quick read:

YOU KEN GET OUT OF UPTON
By Martin Lipton 23/05/2007

WEST HAM are closing in on plans to move to a 60,000 stadium after backing from London Mayor Ken Livingstone.

The Hammers had hoped to move from Upton Park - their home since 1904 - into the new Olympic Stadium being built for the 2012 games.

That idea was scrapped earlier this year, but Livingstone, in charge of the London Development Authority which owns the site, has told the club that he will support plans for a new ground.

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The former Parcelforce depot adjacent to West Ham tube station is a possible site and would be part of a £350million entertainment and housing complex to be built by 2012.

A club source said: "There are still a few things to think about and the club have to make sure the deal is right but it is looking very positive."
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 03:25 PM   #2
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Yep, I know the site very well. Just south of the super-mosque proposal.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 03:50 PM   #3
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why can't west ham put that money into making the olympic stadium retractable??
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 04:10 PM   #4
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quite a few reasons, but mainly because the olympic stadium is to be a dedicated athletics centre.

The number of tower cranes around Stratford over the next few years will be awesome.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 04:41 PM   #5
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why can't west ham put that money into making the olympic stadium retractable??
There was a whole political bargaining going on because the 2012 team promised the IOC the legacy of the stadium would be athletics. Secondly, there was a specific date in February that the football teams had to make their decision to put money and design into the Olympic stadium to make it a football stadium, and they didn't.

The Olympic construction timetable is incredibly tight, and it is now too late for it to become something other than an athletics stadium.
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 05:13 PM   #6
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As a West Ham fan, I am drooling at the prospect of this, but also glad that the olympic stadium won't be used for football. We all know that atmosphere is lost with an athletics track.

With Chelsea, Tottenham and now West Ham looking to build stadiums, it looks like more exciting times ahead for football stadia in London.

Woo!
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Old May 23rd, 2007, 06:15 PM   #7
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Do West Ham have the fanbase for a 60,000 seater?
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Old May 24th, 2007, 12:02 AM   #8
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No. The only London clubs that do are Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs.
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Do West Ham have the fanbase for a 60,000 seater?
doubt it but i dont see the point in just building to the fan base when one year could jump from 50 to 60 depending how good a season they had, and like the other post says, spurs arsenal and chelsea do so that also benefits for when these teams meet up in the new stad, plenty of big match days that would sell out 60k stad especially in london, the bigger the better i say and lets hope spurs and chelsea go the same way, come 2012 the premier league could be full of new super stadiums, and so could this forum!
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No. The only London clubs that do are Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs.
I think West Ham have a traditional fanbase greater than Chelsea, but obviously that has obviously changed in recent years.

I think 60,000 would be far too big for average games for West Ham, unless it coincided with a very substantial improvement on the pitch. Capacities give you scope to play around though, and if they could use the extra seats to offer substantially discounted tickets, that could entice a lot of currently disenfranchised fans across east London.

I think a more realistic and sensible option for WHU is to increase the East stand to bring the overall capacity up to circa 38-40,000.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 08:15 PM   #11
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I thought the reason they moved the pitch when they built the Bobby Moore stand (is that the right one?) was so they would have more room the other side to replace that shed? Wouldn't that give upton pk another 7 or 8k? I know the hammers have a strong fan base but I think 42k - 50k is enough. As a spurs fan I would definately prefer to see Spurs stay at the lane even if it meant they couldnt get past 50k.

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Sunderland had an average attendance of 46,790 during the 2000/01 season and the Stadium of Light holds 49,000 - I imagine West Ham could match that.
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Old May 24th, 2007, 08:58 PM   #13
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Old May 24th, 2007, 08:59 PM   #14
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I doubt they'd even fill a 40,000 seater on a weekly basis.
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Old May 25th, 2007, 12:38 AM   #15
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you cant compare sunderland and west ham, completely different fan bases and areas, sunderland is the only team for an area larger than 1,000,000 and people in that area do not support any other team, where as west ham compete with chelsea spurs arsenal milwall to a smaller degree
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Old May 25th, 2007, 01:12 AM   #16
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How do you work the 1,000,000 figure out?
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Old May 25th, 2007, 02:25 AM   #17
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sunderland have a pretty big fanbase, most likely bigger and more local than west ham's.
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sunderland and the surrounding suburbs is a larger area than a lot of people think.
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Having lived in Tyne and Wear for fifteen years I'm pretty familiar with Sunderland and the rest of the North East. They dont have an area of over 1 million people to themselves!
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Old May 25th, 2007, 06:10 PM   #20
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well its roughly 1 million people so i have read and heard including from the council so dont shoot the messenger. its still large though which is the point im trying to make. admitedly after checking its not a million but thats just what i heard its not something i research regularly haha
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