Columbus/Indianapolis: The New North?

[vader]

While Northern/midwestern cities continues thier urban decline..Columbus and Indianapolis continues to hold thier own.These are also the only cities I for the most part dont hear bad things about.So what about it

Can you say the New North?

[NLouisianaJay]

Originally Posted by vader

While Northern/midwestern cities continues thier urban decline..Columbus and Indianapolis continues to hold thier own.These are also the only cities I for the most part dont hear bad things about.So what about it

Can you say the New North?

OMM....There is actually urban gentrification in cities like milwaukee, st louis, chicago, ect... so there are more than just the 2 cities listed out of urban decline. Im just a little cautious about answering this question.

[edsg25]

Originally Posted by NLouisianaJay

OMM....There is actually urban gentrification in cities like milwaukee, st louis, chicago, ect... so there are more than just the 2 cities listed out of urban decline. Im just a little cautious about answering this question.

Sorry, Jay, you're wrong. Most Chicagoans have packed up and moved to Indianapolis or Columbus. The remainder of us are just waitng for our new homes to be ready. Life for us has been better there, but to tell you the truth the games between the Indianapolis White Sox and the Columbus Cubs just aren't as much fun as the good old days.

As for Milwaukee, you know it is close by to us. I drove through there a couple days. It's gone. They tore the whole thing up except for the Marquette interchange which incredibly is going ahead with its millions and millions of dollars of intecrate, big dig style road construction although there isn't a car in sight. go figure.

[edsg25]

the decline in the middle west is most severe and tragic in Minneapolis and St. Paul. They have fallen to 2nd and 3rd place in size among the Tri Cities, well behind Bloomingdale's robust 90,000 or so citizens.

Of course, pity poor Detroit. They have turned their tallest building into a flea market where you can lease old records and tapes for a couple of days for mere pennies. They call the place Rent-A-Sound Center.

[edsg25]

eeer, bloomington was renamed bloomingdale in honor of its most spectacular MOA dept store.

[Sam_Harmon]

Originally Posted by edsg25

Sorry, Jay, you're wrong. Most Chicagoans have packed up and moved to Indianapolis or Columbus. The remainder of us are just waitng for our new homes to be ready. Life for us has been better there, but to tell you the truth the games between the Indianapolis White Sox and the Columbus Cubs just aren't as much fun as the good old days.

I know. I can't wait to get out of my lakefront condo in Lincoln Park and settle into my new tract home in the Indy suburbs.

[Unionstation13]

Originally Posted by Sam_Harmon

I know. I can't wait to get out of my lakefront condo in Lincoln Park and settle into my new tract home in the Indy suburbs.

you dont want to live in the suburbs, move into a century old condo or something. OH OH, be my neighbor!!!! I live in a 3 story brick house that has been cut into duplexes, and my neighbors are moving three blocks away!

[edsg25]

Originally Posted by Sam_Harmon

I know. I can't wait to get out of my lakefront condo in Lincoln Park and settle into my new tract home in the Indy suburbs.

Lincoln Park, huh? Sam you're going to have to give up the Cubs and become an Indianapolis White Sox fan.

[NaptownBoy]

Originally Posted by Sam_Harmon

I know. I can't wait to get out of my lakefront condo in Lincoln Park and settle into my new tract home in the Indy suburbs.

Vinyl or not, at least Indy gains population every year. We win Super Bowls, too.

And by the way, how many thousands of people have left Chicago for more desireable cities (not just Indy) today alone? I can only imagine how many of those lakefront condos sold in Chicago in 1977.

[Sam_Harmon]

Originally Posted by NaptownBoy

Vinyl or not, at least Indy gains population every year. We win Super Bowls, too.

And by the way, how many thousands of people have left Chicago for more desireable cities (not just Indy) today alone? I can only imagine how many of those lakefront condos sold in Chicago in 1977.

Do you honestly believe that Indy is a "more desirable" city than Chicago?

Maybe if you can't afford Chicago. Maybe if you can't "handle" the big city. Indy could do everything right for the next half century, and it still wouldn't be Chicago!

Cultural institutions. Global economic impact. Every major pro sport. High likelihood of the 2016 Olympics. Racial and ethnic diversity. The CBOT-CME merger, which will put Chicago on a par with London and New York as a global finance capital (which is why they tried so hard to kill it).
History. Birthplace of both the electric blues and modern jazz. Ground zero for 20th century architecture. Fermilab. 2 top fifteen universities. The fact that I can get on a plane 15 miles from my apartment and fly anywhere in the world. The lakefront.

Look, Indy's a nice town. More desirable than Chicago? I don't think so.

Where's Indy?



http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/citylist.html

Sheesh, even Columbus made the cut for the lowest level of inclusion. Perhaps winning a Super Bowl isn't all that important in the grand scheme of things.

[Lmichigan]

If you believe the Census estimates (and I take them with a huge grain of salt), physically large Indy looks as if it's slowing down considerably adding only a little over 3,600 since 2000, or a little less than a .5% increase. Though, it's posted a healthy metro gain of 9% since 2000, but it looks like it may be slowing down a bit from last decade. I wouldn't say that any of the cities of the region are even close to completely immune from the economic downturn of the region.

[Somnifor]

Metro numbers are more important than city numbers.

There are a number of other midwestern metros with strong growth: Madison, Des Moins, Sioux Falls, Fargo, and the Twin Cities off the top of my head. The thing they all have in common is that they never developed a lot of heavy industry in the late 19th/ early 20th century.

[SCL]

Originally Posted by Somnifor

Metro numbers are more important than city numbers.

There are a number of other midwestern metros with strong growth: Madison, Des Moins, Sioux Falls, Fargo, and the Twin Cities off the top of my head. The thing they all have in common is that they never developed a lot of heavy industry in the late 19th/ early 20th century.

I'd say metro numbers are very misleading. Each city has a different relationship with its suburbs.

[Somnifor]

Originally Posted by SCL

I'd say metro numbers are very misleading. Each city has a different relationship with its suburbs.

City numbers are misleading as well, Indianapolis is the poster child for this. If Minneapolis merged with Hennepin County it would have phenomenal growth.

[tombantdesfoetus]

Originally Posted by Somnifor

City numbers are misleading as well, Indianapolis is the poster child for this. If Minneapolis merged with Hennepin County it would have phenomenal growth.

If Minneapolis merged with Hennepin County, it would be the tenth largest city in the United States with a population of 1,116,200. For comparison, the entire expanse of Hennepin County is the same size as the city of Houston (603 square miles).



I can't even imagine Minneapolis being that enormously immense in area.

[cwilson758]

Originally Posted by Somnifor

Metro numbers are more important than city numbers.

There are a number of other midwestern metros with strong growth: Madison, Des Moins, Sioux Falls, Fargo, and the Twin Cities off the top of my head. The thing they all have in common is that they never developed a lot of heavy industry in the late 19th/ early 20th century.

This is not true...at least in terms of Indianapolis. This city was founded on heavy industry and grew substantially during the expansion of the railroad. Indianapolis actually produced more automobiles than Detroit for a long period of time, hence the reason for the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

[tombantdesfoetus]

Originally Posted by vader

While Northern/midwestern cities continues thier urban decline..Columbus and Indianapolis continues to hold thier own.These are also the only cities I for the most part dont hear bad things about.So what about it

Can you say the New North?

You're joking, right?

[edsg25]

Originally Posted by tombantdesfoetus

You're joking, right?

oh, get a life and move to bloomingdale's, eeer...bloomington!!

[edsg25]

Could someone tell me where I can find the "Fresno & Bakersfield: The New California....Eat your heart out Frisco & LA" thread?????????

[edsg25]

It's a sad day in mid-America when i can walk into St. Louis's famed, iconic Gateway Arch and the first thing they say to me is "You can super size it for $1.50 more"