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Old January 21st, 2008, 05:43 PM   #1
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Panhandle Development News

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Old January 21st, 2008, 05:49 PM   #2
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PANAMA CITY BEACH


[compiled by Florida Future]

Panama City Beach:

Tidewater Beach Resort- 31 story resort, recently complete




Palazzo- 23 stories, topped out

As of Jan. 2008-

http://www.palazzocondominiums.com/updates.html




Laketown Wharf- 21 stories, topped out.
765 condos, 91,000 sq. ft commercial space, ampitheatre



Construction Camera 1- http://www.oxblue.com/client/waltoncci/laketown1/
Construction Camera 2- http://www.oxblue.com/client/waltoncci/laketown2/
Website- http://www.laketownwharf.com/



Wimbeldon on the Sea- 21 stories, proposed




The Mayan- 25 stories, approved




http://www.pcbeach.org/lodging.shtml

http://panamacitybeachvisitor.com/real-estate.asp
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PENSACOLA


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Any news on any of these developments, and can anyone add anymore major ones to the list?

111 Spring Street- 10 stories
Website- http://www.111spring.com/about.asp



800 East- 10 stories, 59 units, underground parking


The Tarragona- 9 stories


The Floridian- 7 stories, DEAD


Maritime Park- Several low and mid rises, multiuse stadium, park space, University of West Florida classrooms, a maritime museum, residential space, and office and retail space



http://supporters.communitymaritimepark.com/page/

Hawshaw Village- 30 units of workforce housing, 110,000 square feet of mixed-use office, retail and restaurant space


Lofts at Alcaniz- 2 stories, 27 units, recently completed


2007 Downtown Residential Open House

Downtown Partnership
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TALLAHASSEE


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http://www.tallahasseedowntown.com/

The Tallahassee Center- 11 story, 108 units, refurbishment


Plaza Tower- 23 stories, topped out, 224 units, also includes office and retail space

As of September 2007:


http://www.plazatower.net/index.html

650 West Gaines Street- 20 residential units, about 12,000 sq. ft. retail, proposed


Adams Street Lofts- 5 stories, topped out


Cloisters- 4 stories, U/C

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DESTIN


Harbor Reflections- 15 story condo tower, 159 feet, unknown number of units, approved


One Water Place- three 14 story towers, 169 units, recently complete
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What are the place holders for? Development list of other Panhandle cities?
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This is a Great Be-Lated Christmas Gift, and a Happy New Year welcome that was sure to come soon Sticky thread because of it's very used and recent activity,
and Thanks to Jason, our MasterChief for making it Sticky for many here to use in the future of the Panhandle Cities of Florida,

Congrats to our Masters and Friends and Visitors of the best Posting yet to come !!!
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What are the place holders for? Development list of other Panhandle cities?
Right, and a catch all.
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15-STORY HARBOR REFLECTIONS SQUEAKS BY CITY SCRUTINY
160-foot condo to rise next to Harbor Docks
By Patrick Donohue
January 19, 2008 12:42 PM


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Destin has its first Tier Three project.

In a quasi-judicial hearing Thursday night at the Destin City Hall Annex, the Destin city councilors heard the request from the architects and developers behind Harbor Reflections, a proposed 15-story condominium tower to be built to the immediate west of Harbor Docks Restaurant.

For nearly three hours, the councilors peppered Joseph Dougherty of Dougherty and Chavez Architects and city staff with questions about whether the proposed facility would increase traffic, have enough parking and whether its proposed boardwalk, a requirement for Tier Three projects, would receive Florida Department of Environmental Protection approval.

The proceedings, surprisingly, included no testimony from any member of the public opposed to the project.

After a brief recess, the council reconvened and approved the applicants’ development order by a 4-3 vote with Larry Williges, Capt. Kelly Windes and Dewey Destin voting in opposition.

The project was the first to work its way through the regulatory process under the city’s 3-year-old land development code and was scrutinized by the council on a number of fronts.

Councilor Larry Williges took umbrage with the city staff’s traffic report on the project, which suggested that approving the development wouldn’t result in increased traffic on Destin’s roads.

“These traffic studies would lead you to believe that there is no traffic problem in Destin. It shows, in my humble opinion, that these traffic concurrency reports aren’t as valid as we’d like to think,” he said. “I have a hard time telling people with a straight face that we have room for more cars and more traffic on our roads. We are allowing just about anything to be built.”

Williges expressed his disappointment that the city’s traffic consultants weren’t in attendance to answer questions from the council regarding the traffic report.

Councilor Dewey Destin echoed Williges’ sentiments regarding the traffic issue and lamented the city’s lack of alternative transportation.

“The project is well designed, but it gives me great pause to approve this when we have nothing but a paper tiger to combat the traffic problem that we have now,” he said.

While the harbor boardwalk, boat slips and parking were all points of discussion during various parts of Thursday night’s hearing, most of the debate centered on the project’s proposed public benefit contributions and impact fees.

Under the land development code, it is the responsibility of the city manager to negotiate with the applicant on what percentage of the estimated profit anticipated by the applicant in going from Tier Two to Tier Three, the city should receive by way of a public benefit contribution.

The percentage agreed upon by Kisela and the applicants was 33 percent or $1.3 million.

Capt. Kelly Windes said he thought that number was too high and a disservice to those harborfront property owners who have held off cashing in on their parcels.

“For those old families who held out for 50, 60, 70 years, they are not making a good return. For the city to take 33 percent and say, ‘this is for us,’ that’s on the verge of socialism for me. There is too much subjectivity,” Windes said. “Every project that comes before us, we are going to argue with them about what chunk of the profit the city should get and it’s too ambiguous. There has to be a standard, and we have to simplify this formula.”

The question of legal precedent was raised by a couple of city councilors as to whether or not, by approving Harbor Reflections and it’s 33 percent public benefits contribution, the council was setting a precedent for future Tier Three developments.

City land use attorney Scott Shirley and the attorney representing the applicants both voiced their opinion that the city had the right to take every project and every parcel of land on a case-by-case basis and assess the public benefit differently. He concluded that the city was not setting precedent with their actions Thursday night.

As approved, the developers will pay $250,000 to $300,000 in impact fees under the city’s current ordinance and will also pay an additional $1.3 million in a number of public benefits that are to include constructing a 10-foot wide public harbor access way to the east of the project and upgrading the existing tram stop on Benning Drive.

Under Tier Three, the development is also required to construct a section of the harbor boardwalk as part of the city’s harbor redevelopment plan, approved by the Community Redevelopment Agency board in October.

Destin City Manager Greg Kisela said now that the council has approved the project’s development order, the applicants can begin to plan construction and apply for the necessary building permits when they are ready to take the project vertical. Though given the market, he added, it was likely that work wouldn’t begin until the end of the year or the beginning of 2009.

http://www.thedestinlog.com/articles...?a=4984&page=3
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^That's a pretty unique looking project for Destin. It might be little TOO unique but from the rendering it looks cool.
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^That's a pretty unique looking project for Destin. It might be little TOO unique but form the rendering it looks cool.
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I totally agree with you,
Wow,
I'm surprised they passed it,
It will bring more visitors and Spring break college kids to Destin in the future.

I'm sure many other members and guests are reading these great updates of the Panhandle area of Florida,
but just not posting as much,
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Published - January, 22, 2008

Downtown Pensacola Busbee warehouse renovated with historic detail
Taris Savell
tsavell@pnj.com


Jeremy Brown, Chad Williams and Chad Henderson recently moved into newly renovated business offices at the corner of A and Romana streets in downtown Pensacola.
Jennifer Cecil/jcecil@pnj.com

Pensacola-
The old Busbee Tomato Co. Warehouse at 801 W. Romana St. has a new look, courtesy of Deepwater Bend, LLC, a locally owned real estate development company which renovated the original building.

It has been renamed The Marquis De Romana office and is currently occupied by a full-service insurance firm, Lanier Upshaw, and Williams Brown Inc., a general contracting firm specializing in commercial construction, which relocated its office from Cantonment.

The actual renovation began last summer by Williams Brown.

Salvaged brick from a building that was torn down was used on the exterior of the building as well as black metal awnings in order to keep the old downtown feel.

The interior is considered excellent office space and was constructed to maintain a lot of the characteristics of the old warehouse. That included exposing the original ceilings, exposed spiral duct, and an interior trim package that reflects the old style.

The three principals of Deepwater Bend— Chad Henderson, Chad Williams and Jeremy Brown — have also announced plans to start construction on the second phase at the back half of the property to complete the Marquis de Romana office complex.

"Although phase II will be new construction it will be built to match the same style as the existing building," Brown said.

When completed, the new addition will be 9,000 square feet. Construction should begin within 60 days, with occupancy available by August.

"Downtown possesses a great environment to grow a business," said Chad Henderson.

Added Brown: "We are proud to be a part of the ongoing effort in the redevelopment of downtown."

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Sad thing, I never heard of Destin since now. The projects for the city look great though!
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Planned 15-story condo a Destin first
Decision to approve Harbor Reflections — the city's tallest — divides city councilors
Fraser Sherman, Florida Freedom Newspapers
Tuesday January 22nd, 2008
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The 15-story Harbor Reflections condo tower planned for the Destin Harbor is the first to be approved under a “tiering system” in the city’s land development code. What will be the city's tallest building passed by a narrow margin, with four councilors voting to approve the project, while three voted against it.

According to Destin's Community Development Director, Jerry Mucci, Harbor Reflections will be 159 feet tall, which is one foot shorter than the maximum allowed. That makes it 9 feet taller than the Emerald Grande. The two will probably look the same, Mucci said.

The tiering system allows for development in Tiers One and Two to receive automatic approval as long as it conforms to city rules. Developments where the units per acre and the height exceed Destin standards fall into Tier Three and require council review, including whether the “public benefit” the developer has to provide compensates for the size of the project.

The “public benefits” of Harbor Reflections, which will go up next to Harbor Docks, include $350,000 for workforce housing; burying overhead utilities; providing pedestrian access from Harbor Boulevard to the planned harbor boardwalk; and upgrading the Destin bus stop on Benning Drive.

“The developers met all the criteria they were supposed to,” Councilor Sam Seevers said. “It’s a beautiful building, and we’re going to get ($1.3 million) worth of public benefit.”

That figure is a third of the profit the developer expects to realize by going from Tier Two to Three.

At the hearing, Councilor Kelly Windes said taking that much money verged on “socialism” and set a bad precedent.

“For those old (landowning) families who held out for 50, 60, 70 years, they are not making a good return,” Windes said, adding that the rules were too subjective. “Every project that comes before us, we are going to argue with them about what chunk of the profit the city should get, and it’s too ambiguous. There has to be a standard, and we have to simplify this formula.”

Mayor Craig Barker said the council decided the size of the benefit was appropriate for the impact of Harbor Reflections going up on the site of Gilligan’s Restaurant and Gilligan’s Watersports, and the effect it will have on traffic and city life.

“I think the process went smoother than I’d expected for the very first trial,” Barker added.

Both Windes and Councilor Dewey Destin objected that under the city’s parking code, Harbor Reflections requires 270 parking spaces, but the developers only have to provide 219.

The city’s policy is to minimize harborfront parking lots because wide swathes of asphalt don’t encourage foot traffic, and because parking isn’t the best use of such valuable land. The harbor district is already several hundred spaces short of what consultants say it should have, so the city plans to build parking garages on the north side of Harbor Boulevard, allowing smaller parking lots on the south side.

The city had planned to pay for garages by issuing bonds against future property-tax revenues, but the Florida Supreme Court ruled last year that this requires a public referendum. City officials have said it’s not clear whether that would be a Destin referendum, or would have to include all Okaloosa County.

“We’re dead in the water right now,” Councilor Destin said. “We’re going forward with permitting when we don’t have any realistic understanding of when we’re going to get the public parking ... If we’re at a parking deficit, where are they going to park?”

Councilor Ted Corcoran was the most optimistic of the council members.
“The plan fit all the criteria, and therefore should have been approved ... It will be a great benefit to our city to show that the redevelopment of the harbor has officially begun. It will take several years to start seeing results, yet it is happening."

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/article/11484/2
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Sad thing, I never heard of Destin since now. The projects for the city look great though!
Yeah I was surprised to see something like this (not just a 15 story tower, but an interestingly designed 15 story tower with a lot of glass) approved for Destin too. I thought when I first saw it online I was looking at a website for a different city.

But hey, I'm glad I post the updates then. I'm not the only one learning something.
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I'm sure many other members and guests are reading these great updates of the Panhandle area of Florida,
but just not posting as much,
but are enjoying these Great pictures you have Posted,
Thanks and keep posting these great updates and pictures , !!!

It's very well appreciated I'm sure !!
I hope someone reads them. And I apprciate your response. Hopefully we'll get more Floridians on SSC now that we've got all corners of the state covered on here.
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That's all I have now. SDK4, or anyone else attending FSU or lives in Tally please add on.
I certainly shall try and get to DT Tallahassee this weekend to take some pictures, the Plaza Tower project looks much more impressive now especially when viewed from the Civic Center Arena which is a good 50 feet in elevation directly below it.
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The Plaza Tower project looks like it was redesigned a little. It looks better suited for Tally than it did in the older renderings. Maybe they changed the color scheme. Whatever they did, its an improvement. That little building next to it (parking garage?) should be repainted. Cover that pink and blue stairwell with earthtones and/or a shade of green and it'll look much better IMO. Those other Tally projects appear to be very nice and should add to Tally's urban feel.

Those PCB photos and renderings are interesting. I can't really say I like any of them. Like that proposed airport that I hope never gets built, these highrises shouldn't have been built either. The architecture is dull, uninspired, cliche condo style. The scale is too big for a town that size. All of the people I know who lives in that area hates what is happening there. I was talking to a cousin who grew up in PC but lives in Indiana, just yesterday. She visited PC the last time she was down here and swears she'll never go back. It's a shame, PC could've refashioned itself in a much more tasteful and livable manner, but chose to go in the other direction. Is it any wonder the politicians there tried to approve that airport, or that they market themselves as a college springbreak getaway? This is what happens when politicians do what's in their own best interest and not the people they supposedly serve.
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The Plaza Tower project looks like it was redesigned a little. It looks better suited for Tally than it did in the older renderings. Maybe they changed the color scheme. Whatever they did, its an improvement. That little building next to it (parking garage?) should be repainted. Cover that pink and blue stairwell with earthtones and/or a shade of green and it'll look much better IMO. Those other Tally projects appear to be very nice and should add to Tally's urban feel.

Those PCB photos and renderings are interesting. I can't really say I like any of them. Like that proposed airport that I hope never gets built, these highrises shouldn't have been built either. The architecture is dull, uninspired, cliche condo style. The scale is too big for a town that size. All of the people I know who lives in that area hates what is happening there. I was talking to a cousin who grew up in PC but lives in Indiana, just yesterday. She visited PC the last time she was down here and swears she'll never go back. It's a shame, PC could've refashioned itself in a much more tasteful and livable manner, but chose to go in the other direction. Is it any wonder the politicians there tried to approve that airport, or that they market themselves as a college springbreak getaway? This is what happens when politicians do what's in their own best interest and not the people they supposedly serve.
Well all of the Panama City Beach projects are on the beach or across the street from the beach. Traditionally, most condos on the beach are rather boring looking and not as urban (as far as street interaction and parking garage density) as I would like. I'm not saying that's how it should be, but it's what I pretty much expect, unfortunately.

Pensacola is doing a lot better in making an urban livable downtown with good retail action and all. And heck, Harbor Reflections (Destin) looks good and distinctive architectually.

And I agree with you on Tally. It's making strives to be one of the state's "next" downtowns and skylines.

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