MOSS | Oslofjorden Maritime Senter | 67 m | 20 floors | Pro ‎

Ingenioren · April 27th, 2009, 11:27 AM

Proposed
Oslofjorden Maritime Senter
Moss - Østfold

A year ago Kanalen Eiendom presented sketches of a lighthouse-tower of 60 meters, now they have grown. This is the 3rd highrise proposal for Moss, and the other 2 are hotels, so naturally it's not realistic to get all 3 built, but we can hope for this one, and another one (Hopefully not Thon, since it's ugly.) Politicians in Moss is very high-rise friendly, and there is a general opinion that the ferry quay really needs some new development. They claim to have large local investors backing up the plans. It may include congres-centre, hotel, appartments, ground level commercial and a skybar at 16000 squaremeters in total, and possible extension later on. (Horizontal i guess.) The building has been designed to look good from all angles. The town of Moss has around 40 000 inhabitants and is located 40 minutes by train south of Oslo. Kanalen eiendom will present the plans on a meeting the 6th of may, and after that regulationwork will start, the development is estimated to cost 500 million kroner.

Developpers launch:
http://moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...440074041/1044
http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostfold/1.6582103

Nimby response:
http://www.moss-avis.no/article/2009...35574658/1044#
http://www.moss-avis.no/article/2009...NTAR/714960623

The location is where the kiosk is located now, 2 buildings will be demolished:

Some older articles from when they made the first sketch:

Developpers bragging:
http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dl...YTT&nocache=1#

Political response:
http://www.moss-avis.no/article/2008...99/0/SISTENYTT

Old sketch:

kjetilab · April 27th, 2009, 03:41 PM

The new one is a huge improvement from the older sketches. It looks like a pretty decent highrise IMO.

IceCheese · April 27th, 2009, 05:11 PM

A needed improvement, yes, and it looks far better! Let's hope, though I'm always pesimistic when dealing with small town/cities..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ingenioren

The town of Moss has around 40 000 inhabitants and is located 40 minutes by train south of Oslo.

More like 50 min...

Ingenioren · April 27th, 2009, 08:11 PM

Without delays, only 41 minutes for the regional train:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trafikanten

Tog R01 mot Halden
Fra: Oslo Sentralstasjon [tog] 21.00
Til: Moss [tog] 21.41

Sammenlagt reisetid: 41 minutter

IceCheese · April 27th, 2009, 08:16 PM

Hm... I usually only think of the Spikkestad-Moss line, by some reason. It actually is the most frequent of the two, and on some of the rush-hour lines you can't border between Rygge and Oslo (or get off between Oslo and Rygge the other way) on the regional train. But whatever. Moss is pretty far from Oslo anyways!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trafikanten

Tog 550 mot Moss
Fra: Oslo Sentralstasjon [tog] 20.48
Til: Moss [tog] 21.37

Sammenlagt reisetid: 49 minutter

Spearman · April 27th, 2009, 10:21 PM

Actually, I like the old sketches. It's kinda cute.

I think it would have aged a lot better than the current one will.

GuyFromMoss · April 28th, 2009, 06:14 PM

A great project. It is next to the ferry to Horten and next to the Train station. Will be a major improvement for Moss (my hometown) if it ever gets built.

Mulefisk · April 28th, 2009, 09:09 PM

Pretty strange location to build a highrise, next to some small quaint wooden houses.

It will probably look great once it's done.

Corporate.slave · April 29th, 2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spearman

Actually, I like the old sketches. It's kinda cute.

I think it would have aged a lot better than the current one will.

The old ones look like a lighthouse. I think it would look real good aswell actually. Quite iconic and would really stand out. The new proposal will stand out aswell ofcouse, because it's placed in low rise surroundings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mulefisk

Pretty strange location to build a highrise, next to some small quaint wooden houses.

It will probably look great once it's done.

I think it will look cool.
Example from Iceland: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/...b4213b24_b.jpg

Ingenioren · April 29th, 2009, 11:00 AM

Moss avis supports the highrise:
http://www.moss-avis.no/article/20090429/LEDER/66425359

Ingenioren · May 11th, 2009, 02:00 PM

The planning-boss of Moss wants to have an architectural competition for the whole waterfront area including this area, the ports plans aswell as the trainstation that will be moved when a new tunnel is built:
http://www.moss-avis.no/article/2009...HET/693226707#

Ingenioren · March 16th, 2010, 03:36 PM

Kanalen eiendom still working on these plans, some clever scheme where they hold payment for plots pending construction permit is underway:

http://www.moss-avis.no/nyheter/nerm...se#commentform

***Þróndeimr*** · March 26th, 2010, 02:46 AM

this is written a few days later.

Nei til salg av "signalbygg"-tomtene i havna.

http://www.moss-avis.no/nyheter/nei-...avna-1.5015362

IceCheese · March 26th, 2010, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Þróndeimr

this is written a few days later.

Nei til salg av "signalbygg"-tomtene i havna.

http://www.moss-avis.no/nyheter/nei-...avna-1.5015362

Well, a masterplan for this area would be a good thing, I guess. What I fear the most, though, is that this plot only will end up as another Bryggekanten. God, what an awful project that is...

Ingenioren · January 6th, 2012, 05:52 PM

This proposal is very much alive according to this article, developpers have made a deal with a hotel chain - but no progress will be made untill road/ferry and rail plans have been made...
http://www.moss-avis.no/nyheter/hote...sEnabled=false

IceCheese · January 7th, 2012, 10:40 AM

Good to hear. Hope they won't have to wait for a new bridge over Oslofjorden, though!

April 27th, 2009, 11:27 AM	#1
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,995 Likes (Received): 19	MOSS \| Oslofjorden Maritime Senter \| 67 m \| 20 floors \| Pro ‎ Proposed Oslofjorden Maritime Senter Moss - Østfold A year ago Kanalen Eiendom presented sketches of a lighthouse-tower of 60 meters, now they have grown. This is the 3rd highrise proposal for Moss, and the other 2 are hotels, so naturally it's not realistic to get all 3 built, but we can hope for this one, and another one (Hopefully not Thon, since it's ugly.) Politicians in Moss is very high-rise friendly, and there is a general opinion that the ferry quay really needs some new development. They claim to have large local investors backing up the plans. It may include congres-centre, hotel, appartments, ground level commercial and a skybar at 16000 squaremeters in total, and possible extension later on. (Horizontal i guess.) The building has been designed to look good from all angles. The town of Moss has around 40 000 inhabitants and is located 40 minutes by train south of Oslo. Kanalen eiendom will present the plans on a meeting the 6th of may, and after that regulationwork will start, the development is estimated to cost 500 million kroner. Developpers launch: http://moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...440074041/1044 http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/ostfold/1.6582103 Nimby response: http://www.moss-avis.no/article/2009...35574658/1044# http://www.moss-avis.no/article/2009...NTAR/714960623 The location is where the kiosk is located now, 2 buildings will be demolished: Some older articles from when they made the first sketch: Developpers bragging: http://www.moss-avis.no/apps/pbcs.dl...YTT&nocache=1# Political response: http://www.moss-avis.no/article/2008...99/0/SISTENYTT Old sketch: __________________ I want to see some construction! Last edited by Ingenioren; May 25th, 2010 at 10:58 AM.

April 27th, 2009, 03:41 PM	#2
kjetilab YIMBYer.no Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Drammen Posts: 1,248 Likes (Received): 45	The new one is a huge improvement from the older sketches. It looks like a pretty decent highrise IMO. __________________ Nordic & Baltic urban map showcase My phototreads: Easter trip to Budapest (and Bratislava) Africa: Safari, Savanna, Casinos and dense urbanity Eastern Germany - four cities in four days Norwegian Northwest coast and Bodø

April 27th, 2009, 10:21 PM	#6
Spearman NWO Henchman Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Oslo Posts: 944 Likes (Received): 17	Actually, I like the old sketches. It's kinda cute. I think it would have aged a lot better than the current one will. __________________ politics n.pl. [From Gr. poly-, many and ticks, degenerate, blood-sucking parasites that transmit disease] A bureaucrat is a device for turning coffee into frustration.

April 28th, 2009, 06:14 PM	#7
GuyFromMoss Real Norwegian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bergen op Zoom Posts: 173 Likes (Received): 0	A great project. It is next to the ferry to Horten and next to the Train station. Will be a major improvement for Moss (my hometown) if it ever gets built. __________________ Guess I am quite... ...boring

April 29th, 2009, 11:00 AM	#10
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,995 Likes (Received): 19	Moss avis supports the highrise: http://www.moss-avis.no/article/20090429/LEDER/66425359 __________________ I want to see some construction!

April 28th, 2009, 09:09 PM	#8
Mulefisk Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oslo/Sheffield Posts: 791 Likes (Received): 13	Pretty strange location to build a highrise, next to some small quaint wooden houses. It will probably look great once it's done.

May 11th, 2009, 02:00 PM	#11
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,995 Likes (Received): 19	The planning-boss of Moss wants to have an architectural competition for the whole waterfront area including this area, the ports plans aswell as the trainstation that will be moved when a new tunnel is built: http://www.moss-avis.no/article/2009...HET/693226707# __________________ I want to see some construction!

March 16th, 2010, 03:36 PM	#12
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,995 Likes (Received): 19	Kanalen eiendom still working on these plans, some clever scheme where they hold payment for plots pending construction permit is underway: http://www.moss-avis.no/nyheter/nerm...se#commentform __________________ I want to see some construction!

March 26th, 2010, 02:46 AM	#13
*Þróndeimr* Adventurous! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Trondheim Posts: 11,263 Likes (Received): 260	this is written a few days later. Nei til salg av "signalbygg"-tomtene i havna. http://www.moss-avis.no/nyheter/nei-...avna-1.5015362

January 6th, 2012, 05:52 PM	#15
Ingenioren Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 4,995 Likes (Received): 19	This proposal is very much alive according to this article, developpers have made a deal with a hotel chain - but no progress will be made untill road/ferry and rail plans have been made... http://www.moss-avis.no/nyheter/hote...sEnabled=false __________________ I want to see some construction!

January 7th, 2012, 10:40 AM	#16
IceCheese Scandi-friendly Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: oslo.no Posts: 5,975 Likes (Received): 88	Good to hear. Hope they won't have to wait for a new bridge over Oslofjorden, though! __________________ Oslo/Copenhagen - The True Capital of Scandinavia. Take a look at my Photo Mess!

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