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Old March 22nd, 2013, 06:28 PM   #5261
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Well I doubt they know as much as we do about stadiums. They may call it 'retractable' seating but I call it 'temporary' seating.
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 06:33 PM   #5262
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Ah, right......so pretty much all government funded, then. Local and national.

What a good use of taxpayers' money. I mean, it's not as if money is tight at the moment or as if crucial government departments and local services are being squeezed.

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Well, at least they're not stopping at half-a***d... They're going full on by shoehorning a compromised form into a "temporary" structure! Good on ya, London!

Which of course means the location will give this venue a role in a future World Cup over the likes of Emirates, WHL or anything more, excuse me, Moore proper.

Right then.
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 06:41 PM   #5263
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Well I doubt they know as much as we do about stadiums. They may call it 'retractable' seating but I call it 'temporary' seating.
Temporary seating was ruled out due to the cost of storing it, plus the time it takes to erect and remove, hence the reason why they've opted for the Stade de France retractable seating option for the lower bowl.

The initial renders are more to do with giving West Ham fans an idea of how the stadium could look with West Ham's branding on it, and you're likely to get more detailed images once the planning documents have been submitted.
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 08:36 PM   #5264
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i dont think we should pay too much notice of those artists impressions
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 08:43 PM   #5265
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i dont think we should pay too much notice of those artists impressions
Agreed.
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 10:14 PM   #5266
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Unfortunately, I imagine we won't actually get a proper, representative perspective of how the views will be until construction is all but finished.
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 10:43 PM   #5267
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You'll certainly get a better understanding once the planning documents are submitted to the PPDT. At least then the rake of the retractable lower tier will be known, so will the actual distances between the pitch and the stands. West Ham's owners won't be able to hide those facts with shiny renders.
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Old March 22nd, 2013, 10:44 PM   #5268
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 03:04 PM   #5269
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 06:10 PM   #5270
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Nooooo! I'm very disappointed that West Ham United move to that ugly Olympic Stadium. Upton Park is a great stadium with a typical English atmosphere, and a lot of history.

Why don't they renovated it?
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 06:50 PM   #5271
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Nooooo! I'm very disappointed that West Ham United move to that ugly Olympic Stadium. Upton Park is a great stadium with a typical English atmosphere, and a lot of history.

Why don't they renovated it?
Indeed.

But a typical English atmosphere these days, sadly, is near total silence other than when home fans are moaning about or booing their own team.
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 06:57 PM   #5272
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Nooooo! I'm very disappointed that West Ham United move to that ugly Olympic Stadium. Upton Park is a great stadium with a typical English atmosphere, and a lot of history.

Why don't they renovated it?
That would make it rather hard to sell the land for housing wouldn't it?
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 08:42 PM   #5273
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Ah, right......so pretty much all government funded, then. Local and national.

What a good use of taxpayers' money. I mean, it's not as if money is tight at the moment or as if crucial government departments and local services are being squeezed.

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Yup, thanks to the cretinous decision made by the likes of Tessa Jowell and Ken Livingstone back in 2006 to decline West Ham' offer to contribute £100m towards retractable seating because they thought that London could become the first Olympic city to make a stadium financially viable with only athletics

So instead the tax payer is now having to foot the bill to remove the one part of the OS which was meant to be permanent in order to make it a multi-purpose venue.
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 08:42 PM   #5274
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Why don't they renovated it?
Getting a big new stadium for a minimal outlay is the only way the owners can expect to re-sell at a large profit.
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 09:24 PM   #5275
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Yup, thanks to the cretinous decision made by the likes of Tessa Jowell and Ken Livingstone back in 2006 to decline West Ham' offer to contribute £100m towards retractable seating because they thought that London could become the first Olympic city to make a stadium financially viable with only athletics

So instead the tax payer is now having to foot the bill to remove the one part of the OS which was meant to be permanent in order to make it a multi-purpose venue.
More public funds would've been required for that plan at the start, though. Plus, according to Jowell they couldn't get Magnusson to commit to finance it. Yeah, great idea that would've been.

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"West Ham simply did not have a proper plan. We could not get them to commit to finance it, there was no business plan. Nobody took their offer seriously."
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 10:51 PM   #5276
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You'll certainly get a better understanding once the planning documents are submitted to the PPDT. At least then the rake of the retractable lower tier will be known, so will the actual distances between the pitch and the stands. West Ham's owners won't be able to hide those facts with shiny renders.
What about the upper tier? I remember a pic from a while back showing sections of seating 'tapering' into a smaller size near the replay screens (similar to Wembley). Was that just speculation, or is that what is happening? I ask as I remember a post from someone ages ago who speculated that seating in the upper tier behind the goals might be covered up to allow extra seats to be made available for events other than football matches. What does everyone think? ~54,000 permanently, or just for West Ham matches? The renders and quotes so far don't really give a lot away.

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Old March 23rd, 2013, 11:47 PM   #5277
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What about the upper tier? I remember a pic from a while back showing sections of seating 'tapering' into a smaller size near the replay screens (similar to Wembley). Was that just speculation, or is that what is happening? I ask as I remember a post from someone ages ago who speculated that seating in the upper tier behind the goals might be covered up to allow extra seats to be made available for events other than football matches. What does everyone think? ~54,000 permanently, or just for West Ham matches? The renders and quotes so far don't really give a lot away.

Yep, that was indeed the previous plan to reduce the capacity. Grey areas indicated what seats would've been covered over:



I've no idea if they're still planning to that, so we'll have to wait until the new planning documents are released. However, covering over those seats would be fairly cheap to do, and I imagine any covers would have advertising on them, so another form of revenue for West Ham or the LLDC. It would also mean the stadium could be easily expanded if required.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 12:30 AM   #5278
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More images of Brentford's new stadium.

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That looks way too big for Brentford.
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Old March 24th, 2013, 02:31 PM   #5280
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I believe it's about 20,000.

That would be too big in League One, but if they got up to the championship, which the typical new stadium boost in support should help them achieve, then drawing 14,000 or so each week wouldn't be unexpected.

It would be more or less ideal, as I'm assuming they aren't building a stadium with the plan on staying in League One forever.
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