MARSEILLE - Stade Vélodrome (60,031 -> 67,054) - EURO 2016 - Page 2

Vilak · October 20th, 2006, 10:24 AM

140M is a lot of money but due to Velodrome actual configuration, you can"t expand it at low cost.

We're not just talking about adding 20.000 seats, we're talking about doing this thing PLUS :
adding a roof for 80.500 seats
changing an horrible stadium into a piece of art
receiving thousand of fans in comfortable conditions
having the most beautiful stadium ever built in France
making proud millions of the provence people.

And there will surely be a business center, shops and luxury suites

This is Marseille so this effort have to be made.

Neda Say · October 20th, 2006, 12:55 PM

Although Gaudin said that the city didn't have any money to spend on upgrading the stadium right now. Financing this upgrade will be OM's job. They have to finance 140 with private partners and probably a little mortgage.

Good speed

Put a four star hotel in it... Marseille needs a few of them!

Vilak · October 20th, 2006, 01:57 PM

of course it's a lot of money but it will be found.
I can't believe how a such hated stadium could pass the 2010 eve.

There was also a project from a student in architecture from marseille who covered the stadium and added 1200 seats.
No cost available for this one because it's just a fantasy from this young talent and won't be done.

here's the pic for your knowledge:

Look nice isn't it?

eomer · October 20th, 2006, 08:19 PM

That's not the same project: it's 1 200 seats only instead of 20 000.

Vilak · October 20th, 2006, 08:34 PM

Eomer:

The 20.000 expansion is a SERIOUS project requested by the powers that be for an upgrade they really want. Only the money is left to find because everybody in Marseille is ok to expand the stadium.

The 1200 expansion is a just a FANTASY designed by a young architecture student that he made just for the pleasure of doing it. It has much its place in the "never built stadium" or "your own stadium design" topics but as it concerns marseille velodrome I included it in this topic.

Neda Say · October 20th, 2006, 10:53 PM

Hey I think I like the student project better, more realistic, very nice roofing and I wouldn't do the 1200 new seats. YUp, I do like this one !

Vilak · October 21st, 2006, 12:08 AM

I prefer the 80.500 project. I've always favoured square stadiums to round stadiums but I have to admit the fantasy project is nice.
After all, the most important thing is to cover the seats...

Anyway, I would be very dispointed if the 80k project never happens.

***3tmk*** · October 21st, 2006, 04:08 AM

I obviously am not a fan of Marseille, and I have limited knowledge of the city... where does the Velodrome fit in relation to the new skyscrapers being built?
I know the highrises are in the northern part of the city, but Marseille is a big city, so that could be anywhere

Verbal Kint · October 21st, 2006, 01:22 PM

Do they have enough fans to fill it every second week? If so they must be one of the best supported teams in Europe

***www.sercan.de*** · October 21st, 2006, 05:49 PM

how did it look before 1998?

Vilak · October 21st, 2006, 06:12 PM

Before 1998, the velodrome looked like this :

Bonus:
a model of the rejected project for world cup 1998

Neda Say · October 21st, 2006, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal Kint

Do they have enough fans to fill it every second week? If so they must be one of the best supported teams in Europe

That's the big "?" Marseille has a 60000 seater and they don't really fill it each and every gameday. They used to have a wonderful fanbase, one of the best in Europe, but after that many years away from champions league, fans tend to stay home on gameday. they still have something like 40000 season tickets holder. It still makes them the biggest crowd of Ligue 1. Are they able to fill up a 80000 seater remains an enigma.

Neda Say · October 21st, 2006, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilak

Before 1998, the velodrome looked like this :

Bonus:
a model of the rejected project for world cup 1998

I always liked this project but thinking about it looks like an american stadium

Nikom · October 21st, 2006, 10:30 PM

The new one looks very nice

The Concerned Potato · October 21st, 2006, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vilak

of course it's a lot of money but it will be found.
I can't believe how a such hated stadium could pass the 2010 eve.

There was also a project from a student in architecture from marseille who covered the stadium and added 1200 seats.
No cost available for this one because it's just a fantasy from this young talent and won't be done.

here's the pic for your knowledge:

Look nice isn't it?

the roof is great but i don't like how the student filled in the corners or the exterior of the main stand

Vilak · October 22nd, 2006, 01:03 PM

Neda say :

I, too, don't know if they are able to fill a 80.000 stadium as they, as you said, have an average attendance of around 40/45k per match.
I bet that with a top noch stadium, fans would be more willing to go to the stadium. Then, attendance would grow and we could hope for a 55/65k attendance per match.
We don't asked them to sell out at every match, which is something that never happens on continental europe.
Marseille bosses have finally decided to build a strong team and to work on the long term.
So this expansion is vital.
Marseille need a comfortable stadium, a quality the velodrome doesn't have in the actual configuration.

Verbal Kint · October 22nd, 2006, 06:36 PM

Do you Frenchies know what a "white elephant" is?

Vilak · October 22nd, 2006, 09:29 PM

I don't.

Neda Say · October 23rd, 2006, 12:00 PM

I do and it's exactly what this stadium is going to be!
Especially if Marseille keeps on taking beating like the one they took yesterday: 1-4 against Lyon in the Velodrome.
I do agree with you Vilak the velodrome is a piece of junk stadium! I do agree they need a roof and more comfort. I just disagree on the timing and the final goal!

Neda Say · October 23rd, 2006, 12:02 PM

Just thinking about it we, french, do like white elephants a lot!!!! lol

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October 21st, 2006, 04:08 AM	#28
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October 20th, 2006, 10:24 AM	#21
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	140M is a lot of money but due to Velodrome actual configuration, you can"t expand it at low cost. We're not just talking about adding 20.000 seats, we're talking about doing this thing PLUS : adding a roof for 80.500 seats changing an horrible stadium into a piece of art receiving thousand of fans in comfortable conditions having the most beautiful stadium ever built in France making proud millions of the provence people. And there will surely be a business center, shops and luxury suites This is Marseille so this effort have to be made.

October 20th, 2006, 12:55 PM	#22
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,043 Likes (Received): 27	Although Gaudin said that the city didn't have any money to spend on upgrading the stadium right now. Financing this upgrade will be OM's job. They have to finance 140 with private partners and probably a little mortgage. Good speed Put a four star hotel in it... Marseille needs a few of them!

October 20th, 2006, 01:57 PM	#23
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	of course it's a lot of money but it will be found. I can't believe how a such hated stadium could pass the 2010 eve. There was also a project from a student in architecture from marseille who covered the stadium and added 1200 seats. No cost available for this one because it's just a fantasy from this young talent and won't be done. here's the pic for your knowledge: Look nice isn't it?

October 20th, 2006, 08:34 PM	#25
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	Eomer: The 20.000 expansion is a SERIOUS project requested by the powers that be for an upgrade they really want. Only the money is left to find because everybody in Marseille is ok to expand the stadium. The 1200 expansion is a just a FANTASY designed by a young architecture student that he made just for the pleasure of doing it. It has much its place in the "never built stadium" or "your own stadium design" topics but as it concerns marseille velodrome I included it in this topic.

October 20th, 2006, 10:53 PM	#26
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,043 Likes (Received): 27	Hey I think I like the student project better, more realistic, very nice roofing and I wouldn't do the 1200 new seats. YUp, I do like this one !

October 21st, 2006, 12:08 AM	#27
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	I prefer the 80.500 project. I've always favoured square stadiums to round stadiums but I have to admit the fantasy project is nice. After all, the most important thing is to cover the seats... Anyway, I would be very dispointed if the 80k project never happens.

October 21st, 2006, 01:22 PM	#29
Verbal Kint Storyteller Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 93 Likes (Received): 0	Do they have enough fans to fill it every second week? If so they must be one of the best supported teams in Europe

October 21st, 2006, 06:12 PM	#31
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	Before 1998, the velodrome looked like this : Bonus: a model of the rejected project for world cup 1998

October 22nd, 2006, 01:03 PM	#36
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	Neda say : I, too, don't know if they are able to fill a 80.000 stadium as they, as you said, have an average attendance of around 40/45k per match. I bet that with a top noch stadium, fans would be more willing to go to the stadium. Then, attendance would grow and we could hope for a 55/65k attendance per match. We don't asked them to sell out at every match, which is something that never happens on continental europe. Marseille bosses have finally decided to build a strong team and to work on the long term. So this expansion is vital. Marseille need a comfortable stadium, a quality the velodrome doesn't have in the actual configuration.

October 22nd, 2006, 06:36 PM	#37
Verbal Kint Storyteller Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 93 Likes (Received): 0	Do you Frenchies know what a "white elephant" is?

October 22nd, 2006, 09:29 PM	#38
Vilak Let's dance in style! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Nimes Posts: 568 Likes (Received): 0	I don't.

October 23rd, 2006, 12:00 PM	#39
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,043 Likes (Received): 27	I do and it's exactly what this stadium is going to be! Especially if Marseille keeps on taking beating like the one they took yesterday: 1-4 against Lyon in the Velodrome. I do agree with you Vilak the velodrome is a piece of junk stadium! I do agree they need a roof and more comfort. I just disagree on the timing and the final goal!

October 23rd, 2006, 12:02 PM	#40
Neda Say Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,043 Likes (Received): 27	Just thinking about it we, french, do like white elephants a lot!!!! lol