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Old April 28th, 2013, 01:05 PM   #441
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That doesn´t sound very encouraging after all!!!
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Old April 28th, 2013, 02:20 PM   #442
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hehehehehe i dont care.i am not living there.Not my problem.
Un mayedara ke miran unja sarmategozari kuneshun misuze.
Etefaghan hal mide yekam hale in puldara gerefte beshe
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Old April 28th, 2013, 04:02 PM   #443
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Environmental considerations are critical....but this article sounds like a load of shit (the lake is full already!).i suppose the test will be how it last over summer
Over the summer they will have to keep topping it up, when the Kan is dry, from aquifer water or water that would otherwise have been used by households and irrigation. Fair enough if they let the water level drop right down or let it dry up in the height of summer but I'm not convinced this whole project was a good idea. Could be that this ends up being the biggest folly in Iran ever.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 04:22 PM   #444
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i doubt it will dry in the period of 6 month.its sylpy to huge and it will be filled in 2 years.And we lways have some heavy rains in autumn and winter for 10 days or so.its enough
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Old April 28th, 2013, 04:56 PM   #445
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Environmental considerations are critical....but this article sounds like a load of shit (the lake is full already!).i suppose the test will be how it last over summer
I agree that the article exaggerates about the Chitgar Lake by comparing it with the Dubai disaster, creating a similar negative feeling towards the Chitgar lake (looool Journalists!).
District 22 is not just a place for above average/rich people buying a house and then builders leaving them in the middle of sahara or the Persian Gulf (as was the case in Dubai). Some of the most prestigeous centers at national level (shahre baazee, hezaro yek shahr, parks, the only waterfall, hospitals, research centers, universities, etc.) are all located in this area and close to the lake. I don't think the Council and particularly the very strong business community would ever be stingy in keeping the lake clean and provide water when needed, that is not the issue and I am sure there is a lot in stake for the government and big investors to keep the water flowing (obviously the only major criticism is about the water supply). After all, a small atomic reactor uses an equivalent of this lake's water every two months and no shortage of water whatsoever there. The problem that I have seen however has been the low quality of some of the buildings when comparing them with those in western countries. The lighting of public places (corridors, lobbies), the malfunctioning of equipments (hot/cool systems), lousy finished works inside, and dirty balconies, doors, windows that builders did not even care to clean up before leaving, broken door handles all these refer to the lousy and unprofessional attitude of Iranian builders (at least those who contracted some of the big jobs in the District). When they built these buildings the government owned them initially so builders obviously did not need to spend too much resources on the quality, particularly that we have plenty of dirty thieves throughout the IR ranks who sell their honor for a small bribe. However my brother told me that compared to other buildings built by government contractors in Tehran the ones in District 24 are not that bad!!!! so obviously there is a massive unpleasant cultural/professional attitude problem surrounding the entire society sourcing from the top down to the lowest levels.

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Old April 28th, 2013, 05:09 PM   #446
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that is the iranian problem. they just think about making profit and care more about quantity (for their money) insteat of quality. they can be happy to have ghalibaf. without him, it would even be much worse.

at the end of the day, iran remains a third world nation. we far behind the ones like like japan, germany, britain...

the solution can only be to change iranian culture.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 06:25 PM   #447
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Old April 28th, 2013, 06:27 PM   #448
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dore daryache ro fazaye sabz konan va kami aghab tar ham borj va marakeze tafrihi. jori ke dornamaye daryache hamash borj bashe vaghean ziba mishe. mesle borj haye new york dar kenare darya.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 06:44 PM   #449
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The problem with the low quality of the buildings as mentioned above is the same thing that is the source to many other problems in Iran. The fact that the everything is in the hands of the government/public sector. I mean why do these contractors and entrepreneurs work for the government? Why has the municipality not sold the ground to private entrepreneurs that would build their own projects/buildings? If it was the private sector, the quality would have been way better cause otherwise they could not have sold the apartments. The same goes for our football that also suffers of being publicly funded and so on and so forth.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 09:14 PM   #450
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Bloody Irani attitude of making a quick buck is what the problem is!


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I agree that the article exaggerates about the Chitgar Lake by comparing it with the Dubai disaster, creating a similar feeling towards the Chitgar lake (looool Journalists!).
District 22 is not just a place for above average/rich people buy a house and then builders leave them in the middle of sahara (as was the case in Dubai). Some of the most prestigeous centers at national level (shahre baazee, parks, the only waterfall, hospitals, research centers, universities, etc.) are all located in this area and close to the lake. I don't think the Council and particularly the very strong business community would ever be stingy in keeping the lake clean and provide water when needed, that is not the issue and I am sure there is a lot in stake for the government and big investors to keep the water flowing (obviously the only major criticism is about the water supply). After all, a small atomic reactor uses an equivalent of this lake's water every two months and no shortage of water whatsoever there. The problem that I have seen however has been the low quality of some of the buildings when comparing them with those in western countries. The lighting of public places (corridors, lobbies), the malfunction of equipments (hot/cold systems), lousy finished works inside, and dirty balconies, doors, windows that builders did not even care to clean up before they go, broken door handles all these refer to the lousy and unprofessional attitude of Iranian builders (at least those who contracted some of the big jobs in the District). When they built these buildings the government owned them initially so builders obviously did not need to spend too much resources on the quality, particularly that we have plenty of thieves throughout all the IR ranks who sell their honor for a small bribe. However my brother told me that compared to other buildings built by government contractors in Tehran they are not that bad!!!! so obviously there is a massive unpleasant cultural/professional attitude that dominates the whole society sourcing from the top and down to the smallest layers of the society.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 09:16 PM   #451
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The problem with the low quality of the buildings as mentioned above is the same thing that is the source to many other problems in Iran. The fact that the everything is in the hands of the government/public sector. I mean why do these contractors and entrepreneurs work for the government? Why has the municipality not sold the ground to private entrepreneurs that would build their own projects/buildings? If it was the private sector, the quality would have been way better cause otherwise they could not have sold the apartments. The same goes for our football that also suffers of being publicly funded and so on and so forth.
Agree...private sector + proper planning and aesthetic controls + strict time lines is the way to go.
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Old April 29th, 2013, 04:57 PM   #452
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A somehow related issue that shows supplying water to the lake Chitgar should not be a major problem for the municipality:



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Belgian company ready to try to restore Iran's Lake Urmia

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A Belgian company has announced that it is ready to try to restore Iran's Lake Urmia, 70 percent of which has dried up over the past few years. Tractebel Engineering Company has put in a request to Iran's Foreign Ministry in this regard, IRNA reported on Friday. The plan is also being followed up by a member of the Iranian parliament.

The company has estimated the project would cost €1 million and would be completed within three years.

The Belgian company has a track record of restoring the Dead Sea.

Lake Urmia, in the northwest of Iran, is experiencing its worst condition for the past 50 years. The level of the lake's water has been declining since 1995.

Lake Urmia (Orumieh) is a salt lake in northwestern Iran near Turkey. The lake is between the provinces of East Azarbaijan and West Azarbaijan, west of the southern portion of the similarly shaped Caspian Sea. It is the largest lake inside Iran, and the third salt water lake on earth, with a surface area of approximately 5,200 km square (2,000 mile square). ( View Larger Map)

In October 2012, Iranian Environment Protection Organization Director Mohammad Javad Mohammadizadeh said during Iranian calendar year 1390 (March 2011- March 2012), about 2 billion cubic meters of water were transferred to the lake.

Lake Urmia is the third largest salt water lake on earth with a surface area of approximately 5,200 square kilometers.

Experts say the construction of dams on rivers feeding the lake and also droughts have significantly decreased the annual amount of water Lake Urmia receives. They also say that the construction of a bridge across the lake has upset its ecological balance
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Old April 29th, 2013, 06:40 PM   #453
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IT IS FOR RICH PEOPLE.IN WHICH WORLD DO U LIVE BRO?
IN TEHRAN THE CHEAPEST BUILDINGS ARE AROUND 5miilion per meter.
IF I WANT TO BUY A 60METER APPARTMENT I HAVE TO PAY 300.000.000TOMAN
har mah ham 2.5miilion toman bezaram kenar 10 sal dge be in pul miresam,hala 10 sal dge mishe 1milliard
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Old April 29th, 2013, 10:53 PM   #454
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Acoording to the witnesses the progress of the construction of the lake is super fast. They are working 3 shifts a day to inaugurate the lake on Wednesday as promised. They made the 3 islands in 3 days.

http://sharghdaily.ir/?News_Id=8715
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Old April 30th, 2013, 07:54 PM   #455
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 02:14 PM   #456
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 02:10 AM   #457
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That is a very nice looking boardwalk. Looks very professionally made.
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Old May 3rd, 2013, 05:42 AM   #458
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agreed, the boardwalk is very clean, modern and seems well constructed

professionalism still exists !
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Old May 4th, 2013, 07:13 PM   #460
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Was it too hard to do something else than this terrible concrete/maçonnery block building around this lake?! Glass building or northern tehran building would be more appropriate
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