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Old November 8th, 2012, 09:48 PM   #81
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Not the same thing at all.

None of those college teams will ever play (at least, in a meaningful game) against an NFL team. So there is nothing to stop anyone supporting a college team AND an NFL team. The two are not competing for supporters.

Not so in English football, where any team can be promoted through the divisions, all the way to the Premier League, and any team can be drawn against any other team From any other division in the FA Cup. Consequently, most people only support one team. As it happens, I neglected to mention hundreds of non league teams that could equally, one day, rise through the divisions all the way to the top.
I've met a few people who have two favorite clubs, their local one and a top flight one.

And it's not like most teams ever sniff a significant jump in leagues, it's either very incremental or they just bounce between two levels.

To be honest the other pro sports take away more fans than NCAA, especially due to NCAA being on Saturdays and NFL on Sundays. (And high school on Fridays, something that most other countries don't have, they go straight into pro-am programs.) But that's certainly an issue for football though w/ the various levels, as everyone plays at pretty much the same freaking time. And usually the NHL and NBA teams share arenas, so they can never be at home at the same time.
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Old November 9th, 2012, 02:33 PM   #82
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Not the same thing at all.

None of those college teams will ever play (at least, in a meaningful game) against an NFL team. So there is nothing to stop anyone supporting a college team AND an NFL team. The two are not competing for supporters.
They also make a big effort to avoid playing at the same time. For a long-time it was NFL Sunday and NCAA Saturday (and High School Friday in at least some places). Even now there are few Saturday NFL games (mostly after the regular college season) and few Sunday college games (only bowls?).

Edit: Apologies. I totally missed the post by bewilder2 (new page).
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Old November 9th, 2012, 10:57 PM   #83
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They also make a big effort to avoid playing at the same time. For a long-time it was NFL Sunday and NCAA Saturday (and High School Friday in at least some places). Even now there are few Saturday NFL games (mostly after the regular college season) and few Sunday college games (only bowls?).
Only the first week when NFL has yet to start. Bowls they actually still avoid Sundays, like last year when all the bowls moved to Jan 2 in order to avoid NFL's slate.

But back to the thread, will QPR's plan be derailed considering the likelihood that they will be relegated at the end of the season?
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Old April 17th, 2013, 02:02 PM   #84
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QPR push on with new stadium plans despite looming relegation

QPR chairman Tony Fernandes hopes to have some “good news” about the west Londoners' hunt for a new stadium in the next two weeks.

While the Hoops look all but certain to be relegated from the Barclays Premier League, plans for off-field development appear to continue apace.

Ever since Fernandes completed his takeover in 2011, the club have been keen to bring facilities up to top-flight standard and last summer he confirmed QPR were looking at three potential sites for a new home.

An update on that search looks imminent after Fernandes today took to Twitter to explain a widely-reported £15million loan taken by the club.

"Loan for qpr is for new stadium," he said via his account, tonyfernandes.

"Next 2 weeks will be hopefully good news. But work is starting. We will not say anymore on stadium."


The Hoops' Loftus Road home is the smallest ground in the top flight with a capacity of just 18,439 and Fernandes intimated a new stadium would cost around £150million.

The club had last summer hoped to reveal plans for a new 35,000-seater stadium in the Shepherds Bush area but they never materialised.

QPR chief executive Philip Beard has previously spoken of his plans for the new stadium to be "part of a hub of a wider entertainment destination".
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Old April 17th, 2013, 02:31 PM   #85
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it seems the site could well be the Old Oak Common area,destined for redevelopment for HS2. a large leisure complex,with a 40k stadium at the heart of it,possible with a sliding roof for holding concerts,exhibitions etc.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 02:45 PM   #86
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it seems the site could well be the Old Oak Common area,destined for redevelopment for HS2. a large leisure complex,with a 40k stadium at the heart of it,possible with a sliding roof for holding concerts,exhibitions etc.
Which would make sense given that Earls Court will be demolished for housing. Glad progress is still being made, 'cause even if things run smoothly, it'll still be years before a new stadium opens for business. Only a week left now before a decision is made by Ealing Council in regards to the new training ground, too.
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Old April 17th, 2013, 03:32 PM   #87
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Which would make sense given that Earls Court will be demolished for housing. Glad progress is still being made, 'cause even if things run smoothly, it'll still be years before a new stadium opens for business. Only a week left now before a decision is made by Ealing Council in regards to the new training ground, too.

Yes with Earls court going,there is room for another indoor venue to the West Of London,but true,all this is years away.The training ground must come first and its important we get that too
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Old April 28th, 2013, 12:04 AM   #88
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Nevertheless, it's amazing that as many as 11 London clubs have been in England's top flight within living memory:

Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea, West Ham, Fulham, QPR, Crystal Palace, Charlton, Wimbledon (now MK), Millwall and Watford (to all intents and purposes, a London club).

Is there any other city in Europe that can make such a claim? Moscow, perhaps?
in 2008 13 professional (three top divisions) teams have been in Moscow (and 10 km around):
CSKA, Spartak, Dynamo, Lokomotiv, FC Moscow, Khimki (in Premier League), Sportakademclub, Torpedo (in First Division) and MVD, Nika, Reutov, Zelenograd, Torpedo-ZIL in Second Division. (now there's only 8 left)

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Old April 28th, 2013, 03:37 AM   #89
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Well if you're being pedantic about professional football teams in London (outside of the Premier League), in addition to those teams listed by JimB you should add: Brentford, Barnet, Leyton Orient, and Dagenham and Redbridge bringing the total to 15. And that's not including the many non-league teams of professional/semi professional statuses outside the top 4 divisions.
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I sincerely hope QPR don't come back. 3 teams in one area of one city is a joke. I want a more balanced league, not just clubs from a few areas.

Fulham & QPR offer nothing, they've not come up and survived on merit, they've done so because they're bankrolled.

Sheffield Wednesday, Derby County, Nottingham Forest, Leeds United, etc... So many great clubs with history and large fanbases. The Premier League is becoming drab, too many small clubs that add nothing, thriving due to rich backers.

As a product, these small clubs make the league look naff. Good riddance to QPR & Reading, I also hope Wigan join them, another drab team which send everybody to sleep.
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Old April 28th, 2013, 09:17 PM   #91
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Well if you're being pedantic about professional football teams in London (outside of the Premier League), in addition to those teams listed by JimB you should add: Brentford, Barnet, Leyton Orient, and Dagenham and Redbridge bringing the total to 15. And that's not including the many non-league teams of professional/semi professional statuses outside the top 4 divisions.
Speaking of semi-professional clubs you can probably add Barnet to this list now that they relegated to the Football Conference.
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The Premier League is becoming drab, too many small clubs that add nothing, thriving due to rich backers.
Being bankrolled by a rich owner is no unique fate of smaller clubs, however.
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I'll add this, even though it's an article from The Sun:

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QPR’S new £150million ground is set to be called the Air Asia stadium.

The airline company, run by Hoops’ owner Tony Fernandes, is already the club’s shirt sponsors.

Now they will get naming rights for the proposed 35,000-capacity venue.

Fernandes insists QPR have outgrown their 18,500 Loftus Road home.

A Rangers insider said a formal announcement on the move is “very close.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...R-stadium.html
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Old May 16th, 2013, 11:12 AM   #94
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I sincerely hope QPR don't come back. 3 teams in one area of one city is a joke. I want a more balanced league, not just clubs from a few areas.

Fulham & QPR offer nothing, they've not come up and survived on merit, they've done so because they're bankrolled.

Sheffield Wednesday, Derby County, Nottingham Forest, Leeds United, etc... So many great clubs with history and large fanbases. The Premier League is becoming drab, too many small clubs that add nothing, thriving due to rich backers.

As a product, these small clubs make the league look naff. Good riddance to QPR & Reading, I also hope Wigan join them, another drab team which send everybody to sleep.

i'm sorry,but Forest and Leeds have Middle Eastern Owners don't they?Derby owned by a yank...Wednesday owned by a Serb
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Old June 29th, 2013, 12:28 PM   #95
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Potential stadium site for QPR or another team indicated in the Old Oak vision consultation:





How that location (blue circle) relates to QPR's current stadium (red circle):

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Would be interesting if chelsea did make the move to the linford Christie stadium....
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Would be interesting if chelsea did make the move to the linford Christie stadium....
As I said on the Chelsea thread on the UK pages..............no it would not!!!!

It would be a ******* nightmare!

Chelsea do not belong in W12.

They are not wanted in W12.

And, equally importantly, I'm quite sure that the vast majority of their fans do not want to relocate to W12.
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As I said on the Chelsea thread on the UK pages..............no it would not!!!!

It would be a ******* nightmare!

Chelsea do not belong in W12.

They are not wanted in W12.

And, equally importantly, I'm quite sure that the vast majority of their fans do not want to relocate to W12.
what he said
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Old July 30th, 2013, 01:37 PM   #99
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QPR chief executive guarded on stadium plans

QPR chief executive Philip Beard gave a guarded assessment of the club’s stadium ambitions, but insisted that Rangers continue to make “progress” in their hunt for a new home.


The Rs begin life in the Championship this weekend with Beard and chairman Tony Fernandes adamant that a move away from Loftus Road, which has a capacity of less than 19,000, is integral to the club’s future.

Fernandes had hoped to find a location in west London last summer, but that never materialised. He estimates the cost of such a stadium will be around £150million, and continues to scout possible locations in close proximity to Shepherd’s Bush.

Relegation forced QPR to re-evaluate their finances, but Beard said a new stadium remains very much part of the club’s future.

“We’re making progress with stadium plans, but it’s important we’ve got three or four options,” he said.

“If you decide you’re only going to pursue one option and nothing works you’re back to the start again.

“We’ve got plans and want to stay as close as we can to Loftus Road, that’s important.

“We want to recreate the atmosphere, but if we’re going to do something it’s got to be a multi-use facility.

But Beard urged patience, suggesting that plans for a new stadium remain at an early stage, two years after they were first suggested.

“It would be crazy to say there are concrete plans,” he added.

“We’ve put a new pitch down at Loftus Road, which was one of the oldest pitches in the country.

“We’ve done other work at Loftus Road. Season ticket sales are almost at 10,000. Our focus is on getting Loftus Road ready for August 3.”
http://www.kilburntimes.co.uk/qpr/qp...lans_1_2306556
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Old August 21st, 2013, 12:48 AM   #100
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QPR in talks over flash new home as they look to become next club to upgrade

Championship club Queen Park Rangers have overtaken west London neighbours and Premier League giants Chelsea in the search for a new stadium.

Chelsea’s tortuous hunt has stalled, but QPR are in talks over building a futuristic 40,000-seat ground as part of a massive £10billion Canary Wharf-style development at Old Oak Common, near Wormwood Scrubs and Loftus Road.

QPR are advanced enough in negotiations with Hammersmith and Fulham council and the Greater London Authority for a memorandum of understanding to have been drawn up.


The plan is to transform 100 acres of industrial wasteland into a vast railway hub for Crossrail and the proposed HS2 link from Euston to Birmingham. A sports arena will also be built, as well as an office and residential complex with 19,000 homes — more than QPR’s current capacity.

The proposals are said to require a £200m contribution from QPR, who have the backing of airline tycoon Tony Fernandes and the Mittal steel family, one of the richest in the UK.

A QPR spokesman said: ‘We are taking a good look at various long-term options to see which makes the most sense.’
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