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Old April 15th, 2013, 01:58 PM   #2461
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I'm probably mistaken, but the plume coming from unit 79 seems to suggest that the train is moving the other way (which is possible because there is a driving trailer on the other end of the train).
Notice the extreme height difference between the locos and the Talgo coaches. It looks a bit weird to me, because I'm not used to seeing Talgos, but it's normal for all Talgo trains.
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Old April 15th, 2013, 07:36 PM   #2462
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I'm probably mistaken, but the plume coming from unit 79 seems to suggest that the train is moving the other way (which is possible because there is a driving trailer on the other end of the train).
Notice the extreme height difference between the locos and the Talgo coaches. It looks a bit weird to me, because I'm not used to seeing Talgos, but it's normal for all Talgo trains.
They have very low-lying ceilings, not dome-shaped like other train cars. Still, they have enough height inside even for tall people, and are among the most comfortable trains I have ever used (I traveled with Talgos in Spain).
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Old April 16th, 2013, 12:42 PM   #2463
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They can be this low because instead of 'normal' trains where the floor runs over the wheels with Talgos the floor runs between the wheels (and they are independent wheels, so therere is no axle between them).
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Old May 13th, 2013, 02:53 AM   #2465
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Old May 13th, 2013, 04:56 AM   #2466
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Wow....what kind of exhibition is that? Where do they held it?
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Old May 13th, 2013, 06:55 AM   #2467
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Wow....what kind of exhibition is that? Where do they held it?
It was for National Train day , held every year...on the second Saturday a may at various train stations.

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Old May 13th, 2013, 07:41 AM   #2468
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Nice shots.
I did notice two things: The ALP-45DP doesn't have AFB ('cruise control'). And what has always intrigued me: All the traction and brake controllers are operated backwards for faster and forward for slower, whereas in continental Europe it's the other way around (And I don't see any advantage/disadvantage for either way).
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Old May 13th, 2013, 10:51 PM   #2469
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Old May 14th, 2013, 12:16 AM   #2470
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This is the first I have seen of the sprinters. They look really nice.

These new guys make all the toasters obsolete finally, right? What about the HHP's, they are new but there aren't a whole lot of them and I hear they break down.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 07:12 AM   #2471
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This is the first I have seen of the sprinters. They look really nice.

These new guys make all the toasters obsolete finally, right? What about the HHP's, they are new but there aren't a whole lot of them and I hear they break down.
yea, those are going as well. they might keep them around for work service though.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 09:19 AM   #2472
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yea, those are going as well. they might keep them around for work service though.
Even though the HHP8s are only 10-12 years old, they've been one of the most unreliable engines in the fleet. I wonder what MARC's plans are for their HHP8s.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 04:40 PM   #2473
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The Sprinters series is truly a legendary design, after it's been adopted as a mainstream loco by China, it's now in American service as well.
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Even though the HHP8s are only 10-12 years old, they've been one of the most unreliable engines in the fleet. I wonder what MARC's plans are for their HHP8s.
MARC either wants to overhaul theirs, or replace them as well. If they go for the overhaul option, they may purchase Amtrak's units from them to replace the AEM-7s that they operate. If not, we could be seeing either an order of Siemens units similar to the Amtrak ones, OR an order to Bombardier for ALP-46As, which would make some sense considering the recent order for 54 Multilevels from the same company.
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Old May 16th, 2013, 07:56 AM   #2475
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What makes the HHP'8s so unreliable?
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Old May 16th, 2013, 06:57 PM   #2476
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What makes the HHP'8s so unreliable?
Software issues, mechanical unreliability. The usual, except at a much higher rate. I remember reading recently that they need shop maintenance on an average of 12.6 days or so.

Also, an update regarding the HHP-8s' fate:
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Allow me to put this HHP-8 speculation to a halt.

ApproachMedium mentioned the HHP-8s are owned by BBD. I mentioned that MARC (and Amtrak) are on the hook for them for quite some time. When AP mentioned the lease is up "soon,) well "soon" is a relative term.

There are many years left on the leases. The DCs are fully paid for, the Remans have around 3 more years until they are paid off. The HHP-8s? Well, more than three years! During that time, they must be kept in a state of decent repair. They can not be cannibalized, stripped of their components or leased to another railroad without the explicit consent of BBD. Additionally, since the FEDs financed the HHP-8s, they would have to sign off on it as well.

When you try to do these things, it takes time, money and sometimes doesn't go down. This is why Nasadowsk mentioned "it can get messy in a legal sense." Unless Amtrak buys back the lease (if that is not the right term, please correct me), the HHP-8s are not theirs to do what they will.

Our resident financial planners Mr Affigatt and Mr Arlington can probably explain this better, but it is a big deal when you want to borrow, lend or sell a unit that was leased for specific purpose with a specific grant. It took a lot of legal wrangling for Amtrak to lease the NJT ALP-44s and it was for a specific purpose. They couldn't even use them on a passenger train in an emergency.

In closing, I doubt you'll see Amtrak "lend" MARC the HHP8s. By the same token, I doubt MARC will want to assume the terms of the lease since they have said they have no interest. IF MARC decides to bolster their electric fleet, in all likelihood, JerseyMike is 100% correct. MARC would wait out the leases on the REMANS and purchase them from Amtrak at a cut-rate price
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Old May 16th, 2013, 09:17 PM   #2477
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Rail transit in America should be expanded and funding as well as benefits should go towards those who develop rail. Regional clusters are best, air is more efficient for anything over 500 miles (805 km) or so.

The problem is America(n)s lack of interest/identification with rail. We have such a car-bubble mentality that its hard to get it going in a lot of cities. Florida voted down a HSR from Tampa-Orlando-Miami (almost 10 million in that triangle) and then Miami and Miami Beach voted for localized lightrail but have already voted to delay critical portions of it by several years.

If Americans could ever love light rail or streetcars (again) it would be so much more efficient economically and environmentally.
How can the American people doesn't have such interest by the railway transport?
I always thought that traveling by train is faster than traveling by car or bus on the road, because, traveling by train, you don't face traffic problems in the roads.
And traffic problems in the roads is a very constant problem here in Brazil, more exactly in the holidays, when people goes out to travel from the Capitals to the seashore or the countryside, and at the end of the holidays, when they return from the seashore or the countryside to the Capitals. And it's on this occasion which the passenger rail is very absent, because the passenger long-running trains to the countryside and the seashore here in Brazil, stopped operating in 2000.
And I miss very much the long-running passenger rail here on my country, because the great part of the rail stations (specially in the countryside and seashore cities) is abandoned.

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US freight rail system is impressive, it carries more than 40% of all ton-km over the whole country. It is by no means abandoned or ignored. It is just not effective for transporting passengers except on a few corridors.
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Mostly because of bad regulations and bureaucratic inertia. You can name any city pair east of the I-35 corridor (Minneapolis-Chicago, Cincinnati-Cleveland, Detroit-Cincinnati, Jacksonville-Atlanta, Dallas-Houston, and so on) and I can guarantee you you can find similar city pairs (similar population, similar geographic separation) in Europe with far better rail service.

Amtrak's been in business for 40 years now and is barely beginning to learn how to actually run a passenger railroad.
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How can the American people doesn't have such interest by the railway transport?
I always thought that traveling by train is faster than traveling by car or bus on the road, because, traveling by train, you don't face traffic problems in the roads.
And traffic problems in the roads is a very constant problem here in Brazil, more exactly in the holidays, when people goes out to travel from the Capitals to the seashore or the countryside, and at the end of the holidays, when they return from the seashore or the countryside to the Capitals. And it's on this occasion which the passenger rail is very absent, because the passenger long-running trains to the countryside and the seashore here in Brazil, stopped operating in 2000.
And I miss very much the long-running passenger rail here on my country, because the great part of the rail stations (specially in the countryside and seashore cities) is abandoned.

we have the interstate highway system. I can drive to any other city in the country faster than taking a train, much faster. The next closest major city to my city is a 3 hour drive by personal car, 5-6 hour trip by amtrak and that doesn't include traveling to and from the station with dealing with parking or taking a bus to the station
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