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Old November 3rd, 2006, 05:25 PM   #1
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Ropemaker Place | City of London | 96m | 23 fl

Ropemaker Place (scheme B)
City of London, EC3

Height: 93m
Floors: 23
Architect: Gensler Associates
Developer: British Land

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http://www.britishland.com/ropemaker.htm
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=77
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Notes:
This is the next major office building under development by British Land, following on from the Willis Building. It will stand
in the western City cluster around Moorgate and Citypoint, and will contain approximately 500,000 sq ft of floorspace. It is
being built speculatively and completion is scheduled for mid-2009.


Current Status:
Demolition has finished. Piling and foundation works have now commenced.











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Old November 3rd, 2006, 05:33 PM   #2
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Scheduled for mid-2009? How can the construction take that long?
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 05:36 PM   #3
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That's only 2 and half years, also it's a massive building.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 05:37 PM   #4
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Two and a half years isn't a particularly long time for a building of this size.

It will be externally complete long before then anyway.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 05:44 PM   #5
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also it's a massive building.
'Bulky' is more the right term.

This is probably the most uninspiring new build in the City today, and I find it shocking that British Land wish to put this on the market before 122 Leadenhall.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 05:54 PM   #6
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I find it shocking that British Land wish to put this on the market before 122 Leadenhall.
It is truly bizarre. Almost takes the piss really.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 06:37 PM   #7
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The initial render made this towe look rather nice...

But when you see the entire thing, you start realise just how selective the angles of that actually render are. Look at it from almost any other angle and the illusion is blown.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 06:55 PM   #8
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yeah it is pig ugly, was desperate for this to be redesigned after British Land bought the project. hope we dont just end up with stuff like this and that other British Land tower 500 metres down the road!!! Would make the Heron PI victory ring very hollow indeed.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 06:57 PM   #9
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Will, the renderings you have posted are confusing because this scheme is not going ahead.

As you know, a revised planning application will be submitted before end of the year. No renders are yet available.

As far as I understand, the atrium will be dropped, there will be approximately 25 storeys with roof terraces, and large floorplates.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 07:12 PM   #10
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How much land can they suck out of that site?
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 07:40 PM   #11
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Perhaps they should've put 20 Fenchurch here instead and got even more out of it.
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this has decended into farce...
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 07:49 PM   #12
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I am more than happy to see a hight reduction if the ends result does not look like a throw back to the 70's!!
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 07:53 PM   #13
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More info about Ropemaker Place:

1. As Will said, the planning consent is for 505,000 sq ft in net office space.

2. BL wants to secure an improved consent for a bigger and better building.

3. Basements works are unchanged and u/c.

4. BL is committed to build out Ropemaker without pre-letting it.

5. BL is working through a complete new scheme for it.

The reason are two-fold:


1. BL want to get more space out it, around 550,000 sq ft.
2. Floorplates will vary in the new scheme from around 45,000 sq ft at the lower levels, stepping down to around 20,000 sq ft at the top.

There will be 2 or 3 very large landscaped roof terrraces at this building 'on the scale completely unprecedented in the City'.
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 08:03 PM   #14
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thanks for that info! Even if the overall massing remains similarly uninspired the roof top gardens will turn it into something special
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 08:37 PM   #15
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More info about Ropemaker Place:

1. As Will said, the planning consent is for 505,000 sq ft in net office space.

2. BL wants to secure an improved consent for a bigger and better building.

3. Basements works are unchanged and u/c.

4. BL is committed to build out Ropemaker without pre-letting it.

5. BL is working through a complete new scheme for it.

The reason are two-fold:


1. BL want to get more space out it, around 550,000 sq ft.
2. Floorplates will vary in the new scheme from around 45,000 sq ft at the lower levels, stepping down to around 20,000 sq ft at the top.

There will be 2 or 3 very large landscaped roof terrraces at this building 'on the scale completely unprecedented in the City'.

Thanks again for the info!

Yet again, tall building (possibly taller tha originally proposed) - already u/c - and near the cluster - another one going up! - thats what matters...its the tall ones we wanna worry about detail...lets just get some towers up during this round of major construction...its not draculas castle for god sake!

Its a massing excersice as far as we are concerned - something has got to replace the loss of drapers gardens
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Old November 4th, 2006, 12:30 AM   #16
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It's a busy site now with lots of machines and piling about to make a start.

WWW

http://www.cranesetc.co.uk

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Old November 4th, 2006, 12:34 AM   #17
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Theres a rough drawing on that BL presentation with broadgate 2012 plans - It looked quite similar to the original scheme in shape . The new scheme is being worked up by ARUP.
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Yes it looked quite similar to the original scheme because it is the rough drawing of the original scheme
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Old November 4th, 2006, 12:47 AM   #19
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Yes it looked quite similar to the original scheme because it is the rough drawing of the original scheme
Just had another look at it (page 27). Hmm could be the original scheme- Strange they would use a rough sketch if it is as you would've thought they would have put in a nice rendering at least.

http://www.britishland.com/images/Lo...EB10.10.06.pdf

Anyway- Bring back the 200m leaning tower I say
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Old November 4th, 2006, 12:53 AM   #20
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you're right, commenting this slide, the guy from BL said "The image you see on the right is the existing consented building, and on the left is work in progress. I am not able to share, I'm afraid, any better image at this moment in time because we're still very much in the design process".
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