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Old November 12th, 2006, 03:36 AM   #21
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Old November 12th, 2006, 04:14 PM   #22
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Design is fantastic indeed, but won't the best stadium in the world. Schalke's Veltins Arena is still the best arena.
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Old November 12th, 2006, 04:24 PM   #23
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Old November 12th, 2006, 04:40 PM   #24
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Fantastic,... looks great...
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Old November 12th, 2006, 07:13 PM   #25
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I don't know if it's going to be the best. But on paper this is just mind blowing. I hate to use words like that but it really is a "sexy" stadium. There is a spanish design in this thing that no recently build stadium has, even the very slick stadium build for the germany world cup or the most recent nfl stadium do not match it in terms of design on rendering I've seen only one stadium looking that good and it is the Beijing olympic stadium.

That stadium is not just a stadium it's a statement from Valencia and what a statement this is!
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Old November 12th, 2006, 07:36 PM   #26
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But what I like the most is the price!!! Now I don't believe that you can do a 75000 seater for that little or is spanish workforce really that cheap!?
300 million Euros is a lot (at least for European standards...I know that some American stadiums cost more). All German wc stadiums for example cost less (including the Allianz Arena).
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Old November 13th, 2006, 12:20 AM   #27
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Old November 13th, 2006, 01:15 AM   #28
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Any idea when construction will actually begin?
Begin- March 2007
End- May 2009

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Old November 13th, 2006, 01:39 AM   #29
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Ok that stadium is just the best design I 've seen in years for a stadium. However isn't it suppose to house an athletic track in order to welcome the Valencia track and field championship bid. But what I like the most is the price!!! Now I don't believe that you can do a 75000 seater for that little or is spanish workforce really that cheap!?
Anyway this thing is just stunning


Say me any football (not Olympic or athletic) stadium in Europe, that cost more

Gelsenkirchen: 191.000.000€ for 52.000. 3.673€/p
Munich: 280.000.000€ for 66.000. 4.200€/p
Frankfurt: 126.000.000€ for 48.000. 2.600€/p
Hamburgo: 97.000.000€ for 55.000. 1.800€/p
Leipzig: 91.000.000€ for 43.000. 2.100€/p
JOSE ALVALADE (Lisboa) 80.000.000€ for 52.000. 1.500€/p
DO DRAGAO (Oporto) 98.000.000€ for 52.000. 1.888€/p
ESTADIO DE LA LUZ (Lisboa) 119.000.000€ for 65.000. 1.800€/p
Saint Dennis, Paris 426.000.000$- 331.000.000€ for 80.000. 4.100€/p
New Wembley, London. 1.000.000.000€ for 90.000. 11.000€/p, but this include not only the stadium, and this is NOT a FOOTBALL stadium. And of course, London is London.

Mestalla: 300.000.000€ for 75.000. 4.000€/p

Only Munich and Saint Dennis cost more. And only about 200€/p







385.000.000 $
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Old November 13th, 2006, 01:54 AM   #30
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Good riddance, the current Mestalla is horrific. This area is so dead though. Are there not any plans to add shops etc. The current club shop is nice, but far to small.
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Old November 13th, 2006, 03:59 AM   #31
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If that's all it costs, it won't be super duper super inside. That could be a refreshing lack of 10 billion suites or just decent concources. Also lacks any retractable roof, so that keeps costs down. Does it still have the elevating floor. Don't know if it will be the best, but its certainly the best looking
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Old November 13th, 2006, 06:27 AM   #32
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i don't think it's that great. It just looks like someone hit the outside with a cricket bat.
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Old November 13th, 2006, 10:01 AM   #33
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True that, basic bowl with extrodinary cladding & roof, but it does look marvelous
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Old November 13th, 2006, 10:37 AM   #34
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New Wembley, London. 1.000.000.000€ for 90.000. 11.000€/p, but this include not only the stadium, and this is NOT a FOOTBALL stadium. And of course, London is London.
Really shit I think you are gonna find a lot of pissed off English people when they go there and people are playing Eton fives.

Wembley IS a football stadium, it is just going to be used for other sports such as Rugby League and perhaps athletics if London bids for the world athletics championships.
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Old November 13th, 2006, 01:44 PM   #35
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This, my friends, is a true football stadium:











And not some multifuntional retractable roof thingy.

Another beauty destroyed and replaced for modern art
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Old November 13th, 2006, 02:57 PM   #36
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Mestalllia actual configuration is illegal and Valencia owner want a bigger stadium so this is the only option available.
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Old November 13th, 2006, 06:34 PM   #37
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300 million Euros is a lot (at least for European standards...I know that some American stadiums cost more). All German wc stadiums for example cost less (including the Allianz Arena).
Allianz Arena 340 Mio €
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Old November 13th, 2006, 06:48 PM   #38
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Oops, thought it cost around EUR280mil. My bad.
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Old November 13th, 2006, 07:13 PM   #39
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Wait a minute guys; 300 M for a 75000 seater is a total deal.
Allianz arena 340 in the current config the average to get that now.
Wembley is wembley and london is london fair enough
The Emirates stadium is around 390 M Pounds Lyon new arena around 500 M euros and these two are or are going to be 60000 seater.
Most world cup 2006 are also an incredible deals but you have to consider the fact that the deals were signed 5 years ago on average.
The first decent NFL arena is cost a minimum of 700 USD and generally land aquisition is way cheaper

4000 a seat in 2006 is an absolute deal especially since it's located downtown! not 10km away from the first urban area.

The design doesn't look cheap either this is all the way up there in my ranking. 4000 a seat well on rendering it worths every penny!

Viva Valencia!
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Old November 13th, 2006, 09:17 PM   #40
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Yes, I also think that the real cost will be more than 400m €
In Valencia we have a lot of examples of this:
Palau de les Arts (1995-2005) was estimated in approximately 150 m€, and finally it costs more than 400m €

The building that appears behind in the center of the photo:

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